Civil War II Issue 4 Story time?

Do it

>>84994570
if you want

Of course

It's destined to become a classic, might as well.

Go for it.

>can't... resist... contrarian... impulse...

Don't do it! It's shit. I haven't even read it and I know that it's terrible.

>>84994570
No. If someone wants to read it, it's still in the archives. Instead, how about you storytime something good that you actually enjoy?

Nightcrawler? The X-Man?

Bruce? My cousin Bruce?

Post only last page.

why not finish the Gotham Academy storytime someone did last night?

>>84996158
Who is Miles talking to here?

>>84996148
If only Hawkeye had killed some of those filthy muties, too. And that Spider-Man! He's a menace!

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>>84996224
I'm not sure actually.

>>84996148
So the avengers just let him stay on the team?
Has any justice League members kill another member

Why can't they just act on the visions but not actually arrest people for crimes that they haven't committed yet? Just warn them off? Which appears to be what they're doing for the most part. Hawkeye was put on trial for murdering Banner, as he rightfully should have been, and he was acquitted because the Marvel populace are all a bunch of evil dicks.

>>84996126
The absolute MOST bendis page ever.

>>84996461
The MOST Bendis?

>>84996101
>>84996437
Secretary T'challa

>>84996461
I don't know, >>84996114 comes close especially with

It's Bruce, Jennifer.
Bruce BANNER? My COUSIN Bruce Banner?

>>84996435
>Why can't they just act on the visions but not actually arrest people for crimes that they haven't committed yet? Just warn them off?
Bendis.
Bendis thinks this is somehow compelling drama and a good reasons for Tony and Carol to fight. Because he failed to learn anything from Civil War I, like that you shouldn't make characters turn into morons just so they can beat the shit out of each other.

>>84996435
>Hawkeye was put on trial for murdering Banner, as he rightfully should have been, and he was acquitted because the Marvel populace are all a bunch of evil dicks.
That's because he's trying to turn Hawkeye into an allegory for racist cops.

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Finished. And the moral of the story? Carol is a birch.

>>84996489
Mutie fucking over blond bimbo bitch Carol

>>84996459
Carol's ass

>>84996532
Okay, I get why Tony's Teen Achievers (And Aren't We Proud of Them) decided to back Tony's dumb ass, but why would the X-Men bother coming along?
Tony has proved many times he does not give a shit about the X-Men.
>>84996566
And why would the Guardians care at all about the nature of crime prevention on Earth?

>>84996566
Why are the GotG even here? Don't they have more important things to do?

>>84996619
Would you rather be with the cunt who supports the Inhumans

>>84996637
Not so long as Bendis is writing them they don't.
He's literally making his finally arc with them about getting stuck on Earth. I mean, how is that different from his entire run?

>>84996658
I'd think I'd just stay out of it.
There are bigger problems in the marvel universe than "Who's right about future crime prevention".

>>84996349
>So the avengers just let him stay on the team?
Hawkeye isn't on the Avengers.

>>84996435
>the Marvel populace are all a bunch of evil dicks
The Marvel populace is made up of braindead morons.

>>84996532
Tony has two Caps and a Cyclops. He is obviously "right" here.

>>84996767
Technically Hawkeye was on the New Avengers with Wiccan, Hulking, and Squirrel Girl at the time. Whether they've decided to let him in afterwards has yet to be seen, as Ewing has better things to do than follow along with Bendis' hackneyed plots.
New Avengers are busy fighting off Ultimate Reed Richards and his elite squad of New Revengers.

>>84996506
>the x-man
jesus chirst this is egyptian pharaos tier

>>84996509
>It's Bruce, Jennifer.
>What happened to Bruce Jenner?

>>84996114
jesus how do people get paid to write this shit?

>>84996489
That's not how Nightcrawler's powers work.

>>84996532
>nightcrawler stole the girl
>Kurt is on the extraordinary team
>extraordinary team are the ones that on her side in this page

>>84996148
>>84996158

>Hawkeye wins

Well at least Bendis didn't put Clint in jail

>>84997059
By writing a couple of good comics early in your career then spend a decade riding the coat tales of your own success.

>>84997103
It wasn't Kurt. There was no Bamf.

>>84996866
>>Why can't they just act on the visions but not actually arrest people for crimes that they haven't committed yet? Just warn them off?
>Because that would make sense and as long as Bendis is writing something there will be none of that.
And it's amazing the bullshit he uses to try and justify it.
Okay follow me here:
If you saw Captain America: Civil War, you can see how the Russos took Bucky's role in the story and used it as a logical reason why Steve and Tony's simple disagreement over the idea of Superhero Registration became an all-out brawl (especially in the final act). It took the premise from the comic, which made everyone act a little out of character just to get to the fight scenes, and added a personal element to force Steve's hand.
And you can see the wheels turn in Bendis' head when you read this book. He saw that element of Civil War and thought "Hey that's a great idea, make the grievance personal". But instead of starting with an argument and compounding it with a personal tragedy, he just killed Rhodey in issue 1 so Tony's been flipping out like a baby doing anything he wants and justifying it with "MUH RHODEY!" So now our "morally just side" instead of being a good man pushed into a fight he doesn't want has become a butthurt jerk who's been looking for a reason to fight for 4 issues.
And yeah Carol's clearly not winning any popularity contests in this, but if Tony wasn't so sure that this was gonna end in a fight (which he's been insisting since day 1) and just tried to help maybe she would be more inclined to listen to him.

>>84996532

>You're under arrest

By who's authority Carol? Who the fuck do you think you are? You are not a Cop or a member of SHIELD...you don't have the ability to arrest people under the laws of the United States

>>84996566
the art is pretty good, but jesus christ comic book writing is at an all time low.

1. introduce bad guys plan
2. hero fights bad guy
3. hero drops lame joke after winning

its not hard. enough with the awful, endless faggy dialogue

>>84997145
>Well at least Bendis didn't put Clint in jail
No he just used him as a stand in for a racist trigger-happy cop. That's much better.

Thanks for the storytime. I really enjoyed it!

>>84997103
In the comic Kurt speaks up that he's against it and goes and talks to Magneto becausehe thinks something should be done. Or something along those lines.

But even the rest of the X-Men don't seem entirely on board with it but Ulysses helped save some mutant lives from the mist.

What sticks out to me about >>84996532 Is that Cage says in his book that the first Civil War really messed with him and that he had no intention of getting involved in this one. Him and Danny agreed to sit this out.

Does anyone care about this event?

>>84996532
This is the moment when you realize that Bendis spent so little time thinking about sides. We've hardly seen any interactions of the minor heroes that this comes out of nowhere. And why are any O5 on Tony's side when they are in the future to change the future?
Also, Optimus Prime?

>>84996322
I can't wait for Spencer to reveal Capbik manipulating both sides from the start.

Why does this event so slow? Why does it so long for the sides to he split and for them to fight?

>>84997190
Actually, yes she does. She's the leader of Alpha Flight, which is the new SWORD. In the tie-in, Alpha Flight was given special permission over handling the Ulysses situation as they deem fit.

She's been recognized by the Canadian, American and Wakandan governments as having the authority to do exactly that.

>>84997154
I,m not trying to defend his writing quality but isn't he writing around 5 or 6 books plus whatever side projects he has? Could he just be trying to o to many things at once and the quality is suffering for it?

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FUCK YOU CAROL
FUCK YOU

>>84996637
>Why are the GotG even here? Don't they have more important things to do?

Obviously you've never read Bendis's GotG.

Lucky you.

>>84997405
That's pretty much confirmed to happen in CWII epilogue issue. It's being written by Spencer and has Carol and Tony coming to the agreement that the only way to stop the war is to give Ulysses over to Steve since he's the only one both of them trusts.

This whole conflict feels even more contrived than the first Civil War.
It's almost if like everyone is getting mind -controlled in to fighting each other when they know it doesn't make sense.

>>84997266
Green Lives don't matter.

>>84997450
Hail Hydra!

>>84997391
I don't think that's Optimus Prime. That's probably the hip and cool college-aged WOC superscientist that Bendis is desperately trying to push as the NEW AND BETTER Iron Man.

>>84997487
>It's almost if like everyone is getting mind -controlled in to fighting each other when they know it doesn't make sense.

so Bendis is the real villain?

wait. wait a minute. what if Bendis was the real villain ALL ALONG?

it's not even "if"! Bendis was the one who drove Wanda crazy and Disassembled the Avengers! Bendis orchestrated the Skull "Secret" Invasion! Bendis put Osborn in charge!

Bendis is the final boss of the Marvel universe.

>>84997585
>Bendis is.

>>84997315
can't stop the bendis boner for cage though

I just kinda realized how much it'd really suck to be the average person on Marvel Earth. Especially right now.

The fucking heros end up fucking fighting each other over some bullshit, leading to villains possibly taking advantage of it.

Case in point, Secret invasion, which led to Norman Osborne's rise to infamy and power, all due to the calamity of the 1st Civil War.

Now what the hell's gonna happen in the 2nd one? These idiots of heroes fight and kill each other while my ass may be on the line due to a villain taking advantage of that shit. What the fuck are they gonna do to stop someone like Dormammu if he's planning an incursion to Earth? "Well guys we can't stop him, we're too busy over fighting ourselves instead of talking it out like GROWN FUCKING ADULTS"

It's just insane to me how these people are called heroes at this point. Real heroes don't fucking fight each other, just because there's a problem with a predictor potentially profiling others. They figure out what's the best thing to do in order to make the civilians safe and sound. Superman would've just said, "Look, guys, let's just not use this ability and do our usual thing, we've always saved the world even without the use of prediction."

>>84998096
You know who it sucks even more to be?
People reading Bendis books.

Am I missing something or this whole pre-crime thing seem very unreliable?

What if he dies?
What if he gets mind controlled/blackmailed?
What if he turns evil and starts lying?
What if his power becomes less reliable without him or anyone knowing?

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>>84994570
Hey does anyone know what became of the Inhuman chick from Issue 0 who turned into a crazy demon? Seems like that never went anywhere. Kinda curious what the point of her being around even was.

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>>84994570
So, did anyone update the Bingo chart? This is an old version

>>84998485
>Jewish character brings up being a Jew
Thank fuck Moon Knight is out of the continent for now.

>>84997315
That and in Nova's book, Sam got advice from the Captain to sit this out and decided to do just that, yet he's there in the lineup as well.

>>84998439
Shhhhh.

Bendis.

>>84996101
Carol, you haven't been taking your hormones, you'll never transition at this rate.

>>84998598
Kitty just came into town though.
>>84998485
Would the "It's like racial profiling, it is" not cringey race politics?

>>84998958
It is cringey race politics, which is why somebody needs to update the dam chart already.
We have a bingo if I'm not mistaken.

>>84996461
Worst writing, best art, in the entire event thus far.

I kind of feel like the worst part of this event has been the inevitability. From the beginning we knew it was building up to the Civil War bit and so the characters literally cannot come to a better resolution. There's not really any organic buildup or development, it's just solely crafted to conform to the name of the event.

All so we can see a bunch of superheroes get smashed against each other like toys in the hands of an idiot manchild.

>>84996566

Was going well until this shit. Fuck you Bendis.

Literally "THENS LETS FIGHT"

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>>84998485
I just got back from my ten days cruise and I'm quite disappointed to see no one updated the Bingo.
Anyway here it is. Congratulation, /co/

>>84996360
>>84996373
>>84996406
>>84996437
>>84996459
>>84996489

>Sign Oscar-Winning actress to play Captain Marvel in the MCU with all intents to push her as their most promenent female hero
>Greenlight event blatantly designed to ride the coattails of the MCU's Civil War that portrays her as a stubborn fascist

I just don't see the logic in Marvel's plan...

>>84999472
AT LAST.
WE GOT BINGO.
DOUBLE BINGO.

>>84999472
>One side is comically evil while the other side is comically good

I don't see this. Both sides look comically stupid. Tony's all "something might go wrong!" and Carol's all "I'm fully aware this is a slippery slope but fuck it, sledding time!"

>>84999486
There is no plan, only Bendis

>>84999532
Bendis is clearly trying to show Team Tony as morally justified while Carol acts like a fascist.
And not just this book. At the SDCC, literally every writer and editor asked said they were on Team Tony.

>>84996343
Oh, NOW she trusts Bitch Monkey.

>>84996566
who's the Liefeld reject? Pryde?

>>84996148
>>84996158
>Event whose main narrative thrust was the death of Rhodes and how his white BF and GF react to it
>A death that Ta-Nehisi Coates, Marvel's sole black writer at the time of the creative summit, advised against for being a problematic trope
>Acknowledge and go through with it anyways
>Try to make a blatant Black Lives Matter allegory

FUCK RIGHT OFF BENDIS

>>84996459
Loving that ass

>>84996224
No one. It's the news.

>>84996532
>>84996566
This is a fucking joke. Like this anon >>84999179 says, the only thing missing on next issue will be some letters in the background of the fight scenes singing this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VILgSsesD0

I kind of want to see Sentry turn up, tear Ulysses in half, tell them "see, problem solved" and fly off.
Every event ends half way through with Bob showing up, solving the issue in the quickest and bloodiest way and going back to space.

>>84996532

wait.. is that forget-me-not?


Can someone also do the first issues? I wanna see this trainwreck in full

>>84996190
I don't get it, does Tony Stark not get that no one is disputing this?

Like clearly the future isn't a constant because they're able to prevent Ulysses's visions.

>>85001404
havok, not FMN

>>84999570
will this get him fired or at least get him put in a lower postion

>It took 4 issues for the conflict to begin.
Why can't Bendis into pacing?

>>85001874
no? why would it

people who watch the movies =/= people who read the comics

>>84996241
>profiling our future
What? that doesn't even make any fucking sense it's literally a buzzword in this situation math is absolute any first year philosophy student can tell you that
It doesn't even fit the fucking definition of profiling it's basically a perfect simulation the opposite of profiling how the fuck does this take free will out of the equation come the fuck on

>>84996532
Why is Optimus Prime on Tony's team?

>>85002029

just imagine it as a limited Laplace' Demon.

>>84996114
>>Bruce Banner
>>My Cousin Bruce Banner
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!! Does he think the audience is THAT DUMB?!

>>84996126
So, what's her story? She's Gray She-Hulk now?

>>84996490
YES THE PAGE THAT MANAGES TO BE THE MOST OF BENDIS

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>>84999472
I start to think of this pic more and more every time I read civil war

>>85003159
Post the other one now.

>>84996506
>Tony, you CUNT!

>>85001672
He's arguing that the future isn't a constant and therefore it might not unfold the way Ulysses says it will.

>>85002029
Isaac Asimov's Foundation says hi.

>>85003159
>Jack of Hearts came back to life, de-zombified a chick, was given a happy ending with her and no one even remembers it happened

Some times, being forgotten is a blessing.

>>85001672
That would be if he was getting information from future branches of the timeline, that may or may not happen.

Instead, he's getting current information from "everything energy" and calculating possible outcomes.

Time travel, diverging timelines, avoidance of bad futures, etc, are a real thing in this universe. Ulysses' visions would be about as reliable as, say, Cable's accounts of his (future) past.

But if Ulysses' visions are simply calculations, what's in question is not the future, but how reliable the "software" and the "hardware" being used to process the data, that is to say, Ulysses' brain.

Even if he can receive input from EVERYTHING, his brain may not be able to process the information correctly. If the process is in any way faulty, the predicted outcomes can be so far off from real possibilities as to be functionally useless.

A branching timeline may not be yours, but it exists somewhere in the flow of time, but Ulysses may be unintentionally making up the visions in their entirety. And how would you determine if they're accurate enough to act on?

>>85004619
Doesn't he get thrown out of a plane by HydraCap?

>>84996114
Jesus Christ who story boarded this, and how bored must an artist be to accept this?

>>85005572
That was Jack Flag. He should have stayed with the Cosmic Stuff.

>>85005789
my bad

thanks for the correction mate

>>84996532
Is that Magnetoclops or Youngclops?

>>84996126
God whoever drew She-Hulk is this page needs to draw her forever.

>>85006132
Gonna need a full body shot.

>>85006132
Yeah as much as CW2 is sucking dick, a lot of the art has been fucking on point.

>>85006076
youngclops.

Rightclops is dead. We don't know why yet.

>>84994570
Oh shit I missed it this week. I can only get through this if I suffer with you faggots

Why are they trying to portray this as a right or wrong issue? Like, what the fuck is wrong with using Ulysses' abilities as a preventive measure to make sure Thanos doesn't get an infinity cube or help the Infinitum dude from Ultimates? Why does Bendis have to go full strawman with Carol by making her arrest people based on the predictions? It's so fucking stupid that I can't even believe it is a conflict. Hell, Ulysses' predictions being based on a mathematical system rather than a magic gateway to the future should make them easier to accept. Why is this even a drama with people like Madame Web around? So fucking terrible.

>>85002029
The problem is people are getting arrested without trial or evidence for an event that may or may not happen(Or at the very least, that's what they are going for). It's a very blatant violation of human rights since it can easily boil down to simply arresting people you don't like.

>>85006575
Yes, but that's just Bendis strawmanning Carol to make Tony's side seem right. If they only use Ulysses abilities to make sure seriously bad shit (Thanos-level threats) doesn't happen there would be no problem. Except they went full Minority Report with it as if Ulysses is the first person with pseudo-precognitive abilities in Marvel.

>>84996830
plus miles and kamala
you just don't get more right than that

Wait...is that it?

That seems, really short.

And wtf is up with these rosters?

>>84996202
>>84996216
>>84996241
>previously and in tie ins Carol has been waiting until the people are committing a crime and then stepping in
>people start to think Carol is doing nothing wrong and Tony is wrong and being reactionary
>Carol arrest a woman who currently doing anything wrong to show that Tony still has a point

Bravo Bendis

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>>84998997
We do

>>85007594
Need to cross out Character switches sides.

>>85007914
I also missed 'one side is comically evil', we have bingo twice. Someone should send this to Bendis

>>85008016
Someone should, you can probably send it anonymously to his tumblr.

>>85007594
Honestly, I think whoever made the chart made a mistake when they put the 2 Continuity and 2 X-Men related boxes next to one another

Especially the X-Men ones since they sort of cancel one another out.

>>85008335
Or the fact that there's like 5 /pol/-bait panels that could have been consolidated into 1-2. There's obvious stuff that Bendis was going to pull that would have been better inclusions.

>>85008310
So which should I send. >>85007594 or >>84999472

Also should I send it via AMA?

>>85008457
Well whichever the one, just make sure all the right boxes are crossed out.

>>85008391
The Jewish one is fine, cause Bendis has done that before. It's specific enough to not be misinterpreted either.

Miles and the White Straight Male one (in the same column) could probably be combined.

Cringy Dialogue and Misogyny could also be combined.

>>85008457
Send the one with the X's

>>85008525
>>85008542
I'm unfamiliar with tumblr. Do I submit it to him or AMA?

>>85008638
Not sure what AMA is, but on tumblr there should be a way to send him questions, you can do it anonymously even, it'd be on the sidebar somewhere.

>>85008687
Ask me anything. And that won't let me add an image

>>85008719
You could upload it to a image sharing site like imgur and link him, though that maybe lessens the chance of him seeing it.

>>85008781
I was thinking about that. Figured he wouldn't open an imgur link from an anon. Maybe if I told him it was Luke Cage rule34?

It's unfair how good the art is for this series, to be stuck with such a terrible plot.

>>85008837
kek

but no, I don't think that'd work.

>>85008887
Being an artist and getting stuck with Benis must be a weird feeling. People will see it but you'll be tied to the idiot writing Civil war 2

>>84996216

>It's math

>It's guesswork

It's one or the other Tony. One of the whole points about math is that it's numbers. It's precise.

It's the OPPOSITE of guess work.

>>85008938
I mean why really care? They're getting paid and probably more than typical work, and most Bendis' artists are repeats.

>>85008938
>Being an artist and getting stuck with Benis must be a weird feeling
Not really

Since Bendis is Marvel's biggest writer, he often gets the best artists.

>>85008992
It would be more accurate to say it is a hypothesis. It's an estimated guess based on information

>>84996566

Why the fuck are the Guardians even on Earth? Why do they care?

>>85008992
Meteorology is also equal parts math and guesswork. You do all the math, you get your probability, and you wager an educated guess based on what you found.

>>84996148
Love the way the news people put up a shot of Clint wearing a older costume and looking happy in celebration. Ya know, just to really fuck him over.

It's pretty much Suicide By Hawkeye, but nobody will even consider that.

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>>84996459
At this point you're left wondering why they can't bring in one of the 616's innumerable telepaths and determine her guilt immediately without having to turn Carol and the Change side into Oceania's The Party.

>>85009090

Because Bendis says so

You read for Star Lord to dance off with Tony Stark and Drax taking everything literally?

>>85010516
They implied they already did that on the previous page

"Psychic Evaluation"

>>85007594
Shouldn't "MCU References" be crossed out because he admitted he killed off War Machine because of watching that Civil War trailer?

>>84996459
>Carol tells everyone about the bust.
>HYDRA Steve tells the woman to leave incriminating evidence out of her suitcase and play dumb
>Carol being wrong launches CWII
>In the aftermath, Carol and Tony decide to let Steve handle Ulysses.
>Ulysses becomes property of HYDRA.

Screencap this.

>>85013402
>Bendis
>Acknowledging other people's work
nah brah.

>>85001695
Alex Summers? I thought he hasn't been seen since Battleworld. Why does he have the mustache?

>>85002127
That's the girl that built her own Iron Man armor from plans she found on the internet or something. God only knows why Tony brought the greenest rookie imaginable to this fight, though.

>>84996637
>>85009090
Carol used to be part of that team, so I guess she called in a favor.

>>85013402
>>85013535
Also, Hydra Cap didn't appear to be that evil in the latest issue. He believes in a wonderful Hydra from Kobik's bedtime stories.

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I sent it to him

>>84996532
I have no idea who most of the people on GI Jane's side are.

>>85008992
I'm no math expert, but wouldn't it be more apt to compare it to probability? You use math to figure out probabilities, but that doesn't mean stuff is going to happen, just that it has a certain chance of happening. The very fact that they can prevent Ulysses' visions from coming to pass means that they're not absolute, and therefore there could be a chance of them not coming true at all.

>>84996532
>>85015256
Up left to right:
Gay-man, Fire Angel, Teen Traitor, Teen Cuckclops, Dunno, Dunno, Cuck Cage, Cuckmala, That nigger that'll replace Tony, Dr. Science, Iron Cuck, Vagookeye, Captain Cuckmerica, Spider-nig, Cancerboy, Cancerwoman, Vision.

Bottom panel left to right:
Sascuckatch, Dunno, Cuckrol, Dunno, Magik, Kang n' shit, Celery man, Cuck Marvel, That chick that makes you gay, non-Gay-man, Maria Bitch, Monicuck Rambeau, Storm, dunno.

>>85015309
I think the probability is a 1 in 10 but coincidentally he was on a streak, up until now.

>>84996148
>Smiling and raising his hand like he's some sort of minority that got persecuted for something he didnt do

>>85015616
I'm pretty sure it's an old picture.

Holy shit, Marvel, just fire fucking Bendis, Slott and Alonso already, these faggots will mark a dark age of Marvel Comic, they're worse than Quesada.

>>84996373
Do superheroes hate doors or something?

>>85015539
I wonder if they'll explain why the Banner vision was so different and if it really did screw up his probabilities.

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>>85015918
No, anon. They are the door.

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>>85016289
Motherfucker.

>>85006819
Well, if he had Rightclops...

>>84996373
I really love these faces.

A lot.

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>Some people in this thread have used their money to purchase a physical copy of each individual issue of this event, instead of pirating it or reading it when it gets story-timed on /co/

So I just caught up on the main book of this event. What a mess... But it looks like they've waited to the fourth issue to go full Bendis.

>>84996830
A fake Cap, A Nazi Cap, and Prerightclops
Don't mean nothin'.

>>85017172
Really?
Completely ignoring a major part of another book to senselessly kill off a character for shock value in a retarded manner isn't full Bendis?

>>85017009
That image, I like it.

>>84996373
Everyone always runs away when they can't answer, like Beast on Trial of Beast

>>85014213
So was Tony.

>>84996148
I wasn't paying attention to comics on the day it became possible to kill the Hulk with Hawkeye. I still haven't "seen" it happen. I just kinda skipped the story.

>>85001917
>Four issues
The conflict is only about to happen at the end of #4, except when you include FCBD and #0, #4 is actually the sixth issue.

>>85018113
I guess Carol was better in bed.

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>>84996459
Carols side has Jean Grey, the most powerful telepath on the planet. Why not have her read this girls mind to see if she is a deep spy, pretending to dont know or is actually innocent?

>>84997585
Is this Marvel's Hypercrisis?

Totally Awesome Hulk #10-12 has been delayed by one month each because Mike Del Mundo is replaced on interiors by Mahmud Asrar.

>>85018232
Fun fact; Banner was not the Hulk when he was killed and probably wasn't even able to Hulk out.

He also used some sort of bullshit anti-Hulk arrow that Banner made but it a regular arrow would have done the job.

>>84996658
>support Inhumans who're unironically gassing your people
>people actually defend Storm

>>84997555
She didn't even get in comics decently and she's already wallpaper in latest event.

>>84998469
She'll randomly kill Tony at the end of the event before she flies off never to be seen again.

>>84997585
Bendis is basically an agent of the Gentry at this point

>>84999486
Remember when Falcon became Captain America and first thing they did was have him spout fascist rhetoric in Axis?

>>85017009
>i buy it for the art

>>84996114
>Bruce Banner? My Cousin Bruce Banner?
Christ, I don't even need to look the cover to know who's writing this.

>>85001404
Who?!
No, that's probably that cheyenne dude who spends his life in Storm's friendzone

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>>85018385
Anon, what have I told you about thinking?

>>84996532
Couldn't Blue Marvel solo these fucks?

>>85019642
Not with Strange and Vision around.

>>85019374

I have to ask an honest question, but does Bendis even know this?

I'm quite honestly confused, because it's written as if Banner could Hulk out, but it's been confirmed in other stories that it's not possible for Banner to do that, since Cho has essentially stolen Banner's "Hulk essence".

And Banner doesn't even outright tell them it's not possible, but I'm guessing that he's assuming that he may somehow be able to reactivate his Hulk mode, similar to how Eddie somehow created his own symbiote, Anti-Venom, due to his cells having possible remnants of the gamma radiation mutation within them.

>>85019778
>does Bendis even know this?
It doesn't matter, anon.

Bendis has stated before that he gives no shits about continuity. Whether or not he knew wouldn't change him doing it.

>>84996489
Christ, Nova really went full retard didn't she? Actually, not even that. She's gone full Injustice.

>>85020230
you meant Carol?

>>85020240
Yeah, this is the first thing I've seen her in so I forgot the name and took a guess.

>Anti-Hulk arrows
>Anti-Thanos missiles
Is that one of Bendis's things? Extremely specialised weapons?

>>85020297
Well they are rather notorious beings no? Though dunno if the anti-Thanos ones actually work, they just call them that.

>>84996216
>he can absorb energy and data fro-
>WOAH, SLOW DOWN, EGGHEAD. IN ENGLISH, PLEASE?

>>85020297
Not really.

The "anti-Thanos missile" thing is from a Bendis reply.

Someone asked how She-Hulk could get totalled by a missile to the tits, and he said something inane about War Machine bringing his "knock down Thanos tier" missiles.

They're just really strong, supposedly. It has nothing to do with Thanos himself.

>>84996532
>>84996566
>Tony was the good guy in Civil War
>Tony is the good guy in CWII
Feels good, man.

>>85020391
Both sides were rather idiotic in their approach in 1 iirc, Cap Marvel is going full retard in 2.

>>85007594
MCU refs needs to be crossed out.

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>>85020407
First one was much more balanced for sure. But Tony had the better argument.

Captain Marvel is acting like an absolute spaz.

>>85020343
If Rhodey had "anti-Thanos missiles", why didn't they fire those at Thanos from a safe distance first, then close in to take him down once he's been weakened, instead of all charging at Thanos as soon as he appeared?

>>85020460
You really don't need me to tell you that shitty writers mean unintelligent characters

How old is Bendis?
Will he die soon? Please?
Can we aggravate some health condition and make his death come sooner?

>>85019651
Strange has already been nerfed after secret wars. Bendis being around him means Strange is basically a glorified illusionist.

>>84996406
Wait, when did Black Bolt get back on scene? Is Medusa still sleeping with Human Torch?

>>85020868
Yes, she is.

Bendissssssss.

>>84996126
>>84996148
>>84996190
>>84996202
>>84996322
>>84996343
>>84996360
>>84996373
>>84996406
>>84996532
I feel like this issue was a month early, like there was supposed to be more development to explain why the sides were divided as they were, why Black Bolt and Medusa are back together, and why all the other people are doing these things.

It just makes no sense to me, unless I am missing something big that just happened.

>>84996373
don't bring up his dead friend if you can't take it you bitch

>>84999486
You know Iron Man came out 2 years after the first Civil War, and he was on a fast track to villainy that they had to dial back with a mindwipe.

>>84996532
I have your brown girl, Carol.

>>85021444
I'd actually love an edit of the last few pages being Tony and Carol just fighting over the brown waifu. Carl wants her fucktoy back but Tony refuses to give in since Tyke, Miles, and Sam are only on his side because he promised Kamala to them later.

>>85021626
Go make a full fledged parody of everything. It's practically a tradition to mock events like that at this point.

>>85020460
Because if they actually planned a proper ambush things wouldn't go wrong and Tony wouldn't have anything to whine about.

It kills me how by the numbers this event is and how nobody cares about it. 4 issues, plus an issue 0 and FCBD and we're finally seeing the sides created, but we're already approaching the final fight. The character deaths mean nothing because they were barely involved in the story.
This is one of the slowest events ever, and it's embarrassing that it's still top selling.

>>84996190

Ha! Holocaust but sees nothing about the mutants being gassed by Terrigen B. Damnit Bendis stop making /pol right again!

you guys should read the hulk tie in comics for civw2 it just so heart breaking .....banner is cured....AND CHO GONNA FUCK CAROL ASSSSS

>>85003159
Holy dshit. Where's this from?

>>85022277
Shame Itself


>>85022123

>>85019254

>>85019394

She's trying to be "tolerant" because Rightclops was Hitler. To be contrarian to Rightclops she'd go full house nigger for the Inhumans like Beast did. She'll cry that they are holocausted but need to grin and bear it lest they be called Hitler by the Inhumans. Honestly this is why Inhumans are a mudslime expy, especially with Kamala, and someone needs to kick their shit in.

>>85021908
From what I hear, it took a backseat to the Rebirth titles after issue 1. 3 got a bump in sales due to a midnight release. The tie-ins are selling poorly because everyone knows another renumbering is comming in October.

We'll know for certain how popular the core event book is when the numbers for this issue come out.

>>85007347

This is what pisses me off about hero vs hero ideological battle storylines. Please just ATTEMPT to find a middle ground.Tony already established that things like preparing for a giant space flee from nowhere popping into the city doesn't bother him, but the possibility of mistreating innocent people, like Carol seems to be doing here: >>84996459

If they'd just dedicated one issue to trying the whole, "Let's just investigate people Ulyssess predicts doing bad stuff, and preemptively place heroes in places where he predicts disasters" and then things falling apart, I'd be able to believe that things could escalate to this point more.

>>84999486
I don't think she's MEANT to be a fascist. The goal of this story is moral ambiguity, and while they didn't fuck it up nearly as much as they did with Civil War I, they still didn't pull it off

>>84996532
Who remembered to invite forgetmenot?

>>85020460

Carol is incompetent & bloodthirsty. I'm not pro Stark, I'm living in fear of a military dictatorship run by a literal feminazi who couldn't lead a girl scout troop.

>>85006132
It's easy to draw repeated captions. The real test is drawing her when she rampages across NY. Destroying the eastern seaboard to get to Washington DC. Taking over the Supreme Count. Tribbing Carl Danvers into submission. Making Kamala Khan her sex slave. All Hail your new Gamma charged Empress.

>>85021908
>it's embarrassing that it's still top selling.

Look how much the first Civil War issues sell for. I'm sure collecting figures into this. Also, who doesn't love a good train wreck?

>>84996148

How the hell did Clint walk from this? I don't care if it is the Hulk; if someone asks me to kill them, because they are scared they 'might hurt somebody', and then I put an arrow through his chest... I'm doing life. Simple as that. No sob story or reasoning is saving me.

Being a civilian in the 616 must be terrifying. Heroes can kill you family, and as long as they had even the slimmest reason, they don't get punished. Hell, you better hope your rapist wasn't once an Avenger, or chances are he 'gets help' rather than put away.

>>84996126

Oh, come on, like she didn't Hulk out properly, take out the entire area, and isn't now rampaging. Instead they just cut away? Bullshit.

>>84996360

I can sort of see her point...

>>84996437

...but this shit isn't suspecting a gun. It's not finding one and then trying to dig into every aspect of a personal life to justify one might exist. Sure, 1 in a million times you'll be right, just because math. But this is abuse of power, and a reason I've never liked SHIELD in the first place. Winter Soldier best film.

That said, Carol pulls off being an utterly repulsive human being than Tony ever did. I can't even appreciate her ass shots. I still enjoy reading about her, oddly.

>>84996489

Director Hill everyone. Walking doormat.

>"Oh, yeah, totally threaten and mentally torture the civilian we arrested without cause or warrant, and despite saying otherwise, I guess we can hold her for however long it takes you to find proof that might not exist... Drinks later?"

>>85025697
No one in their right mind would ever arrest someone for killing the Hulk after all the collateral damage he's caused, wrecked military equipment, and that one time he enslaved all of New York.

Look, I get it. He's an Avenger, he's saved the world lots of times, yadda yadda yadda. But honestly, as far as world governments are concerned, fuck that asshole.

>>85025697
>How the hell did Clint walk from this?
Because Hulk/Banner was no angel. Also, #GreenLivesMatter

>>85025828
>Oh, come on, like she didn't Hulk out properly, take out the entire area, and isn't now rampaging. Instead they just cut away? Bullshit.

Yeah, I was expecting the next shot to be Carol "exiting the atmosphere". But alas...

>>84996126
Kinda funny Jenn only cares about civil liberties when something happens her cousin.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-3122760

I have to admit, even if it's because my expectations of modern Marvel are so low that I don't even have any, I'm kind of enjoying this. It's all pointless, badly written schlock, but I have never expected much more from them.

I mean, this is an industry where the Killing Joke is hailed as 'must read'.

>>84996566
Adam Warlock didn't die for this.

>>85026092
We file this under "Examples why the first Civil War was utter crap."

>>85021313
>fast track to villainy
He had been a villain for 2+ years

>>84996190
This writer really needs to read up on the fifth dimension.

Cus holy shit...

Surely tony stark understands what the theory of the multi verse right?

>>85025628
Who enjoys paying to watch a trainwreck though?

>>85025697
You're falling into Marvel's "outrage" trap, anon.

Don't get mad about the verdict. get mad that they thought they could pass this dreck as a good story.

This art is just beautiful though, you guys have to admit that.

And does Carol realize how fascist she's becoming? Detaining people on unproven suspiciouns, not coordinating with the regular police, placing a brand of "Carol Youth" teens complete with jackets and berets in charge of a warehouse where other kids are illegally detained... Is Carol typically this much of a fuckup? Is her story about someone with great potential who can never stop getting in their own way?

>>85018385
>the most powerful telepath on the planet.
Anon...

>>85019454
>first thing

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>>85025966
ayyy

>>85030228
Also, this color scheme is incredibly good with her suit

>>84996435
>>84996813

I have to say it seems like the DC populace is a much better crowd if you want to actually be appreciated for your superhero work.

>>85030559
Yeah. They are less jerkass than the people in the Marvel Multiverse.

>>85025905
>Hill

Would You give Carl "One Punch Dyke" Danvers any shit? All those testosterone doses have made her even more mean.

>>85025927
New York was cheering for the Hulk during that because he pointed out that the Illumunati shot him into space and then blew up an entire planet of people.
Plus anyone can point out that Banner amost never started Hulk threats. Everyone else kept on tracking him down and forcing him to hulk out against his will for years

>>85029929
>And does Carol realize how fascist she's becoming?

Deep down, she's knows things going tits up & having second thoughts. However as Mark Twain pointed out,"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they were fooled." Her pride won't let her back down. Also, she's is full 'Smash the Patriarchy' mode.

By the end of Civil War 2, she'll be less of a bitch for her first movie like Iron Man & Star Lord became less assholish in their movies. That's show business.

>>84996216
But Bendis, Tony knows the future is there because he has experience with time travel as well as previous experience with other accurate precogs

>>85033366
Didn't Bendis write a story about Tony meeting his future self?

Didn't that future-self show Tony a chronological roadmap to "Fear Itself"?

>>85029929
>Is Carol typically this much of a fuckup?

Yes.

>Is her story about someone with great potential who can never stop getting in their own way?

She's as much a self destructive, impulsive, train wreck as Stark or Jenn.

>>85029929
I feel like it's meant to be her obsessing over proving that Ulysses is correct, that she can get some kind of positive out of Thanos killing Rhodey, and she's essentially having a breakdown.
However, we're not really seeing good evidence of it in the main book. Maybe in Ewing's Ultimates they'll focus on that.

>>85033536
Well I would think for Stark he's burdened with having a ridiculously active brain.

>>84996241
Carol BTFO, how can she ever recover?

>>84996322
I would have really like this moment if the whole Captain Hydra thing wasn't going on concurrently with it.

>>85017671
This is the second time Carol has done it in this very event.

>>84996406
>It's a Beast continues to exist issue
Could we please not?

>>84996506
>Maria Hill, director of SHIELD, spearhead of the Superhuman Registration Act, needs clarification on whether the Nightcrawler that teleports leaving behind brimstone smoke is the one from the X-Men

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>>84996126
Had something in my mind for a while

>>85037010
Jen... uh... Jen's somehow gotten sexier.

>>84996532
>Scott Lang on team fascism
wat

>>85037010
Real talk this had better lead to Clint running for his life across a wilderness with Jen tearing things up close behind. It's been fucking ages since Jen went on a rampage. We're overdue.

>>84996566
OOGA CHAKA OOGA OOGA CHAKA

>>85037146
Probably only way he could get parole.

>>85033513
He showed himself everything up to secret wars as well as exactly what to do to ensure the world survives which is the cannonical reason he did all sorts of stupid crap in AvsX. He just looked confused during that event because he couldn't understand how acting retarded wasn't screwing everything up.

>>84999486
>2007
>Civil War character assassinates Tony Stark into a fascist monster
>2008
>Iron Man movie replaces Tony Stark with RDJ and the comics follow suit
>2016
>Civil War 2 character assassinates Carol Danvers into a fascist monster
>2019
>Captain Marvel movie is released
It's like pottery.

The shit SHIELD did in Point Pleasant is more of a better reason for CIVIL WAR II. At the very least you can argue that mind wiping the villians and giving them new identities hurts no one or how it's a really disgusting thing to do to a human being

Does anyone want Carol to win? As of right now it looks like Iron Man AND Captain America are opposed to her stupid ideas

>>85037411
Yeah It's horrible thing for a human being, but we're talking about supervillain who atleast once went on a rampage and killed a fuckton of people
Is still canon that sandman had a split personality issue and killed a lot of people to get close to her daughter?

>>85037580
>>85037605


SJW spotted

>>84996566
this is retarded

>>85037900
you don't have to be an SJW to see that carol's a jackass fascist.

>>85000290
Source on Ta-Nehisi Coates advising against Rhodes being killed off?

>>85037580
I do but only because we're expected to see her as the villain and she just went full retard as of last issue when for this whole event so far she didn't do jack shit wrong.

>>85038197
Different anon here, I don't know anything specific but there was an interview awhile back with Bendis and Brevoort where they mentioned during the writers summit for CWII it was really awkward explaining to Coates that they were killing Rhodey off.

>>85038328
I'm Googling around, because I'd be super interested to read that, but can't find anything :(

>>85018385
Shield has their own telepath, she mind raped Spidey no problem.

>>85019420
Like Ho-oh from the first pokemon series.

>>84996126
Knowing how Marvel works right now, I can't express how happy I am that all they did to Jen was make her grey.

>>84998469
Inhumans is sorta a mess because they are making them the interim X-Men, until Fox stop being dicks.

>>85039486
Carol must eat a really awesome pussy to keep Shulkie from joining up with Chulk & then rampaging until the world looks like the bottom of a Shake and Bake bag.

>>84996532
>blue marvel and Monica
>siding with literal fascism
No

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>>85040063
>We will never get a comic where Jen pins Carol, lockes her head between her legs and makes her eat her emerald pussy or suffocate

>>84996459
Is Bendis retarded or is Carol retarded?

>>84996532
I fucking hate these lineups

>Kamala
This is why I hate crossovers, they drag characters I like into shit I hate.

Why would she CARE?

>>85041157
Both.

>>85041298
Because Carol put her in charge of a group of young group to enforce the Ulysses predictions in Jersey, but then they went full fascists and Kamala grew very disillusioned of Carol

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>>85040063
She's on A-Force, she gets lots of practice.

>>85042111
Again, why would she care?

It would be far more like her to just go home if that happened. The thought of her joining some dumb crusade against Carol is silly.

not to mention: Why the hell would anyone let her join this extremely dangerous foray into rebelling against the facist Carol in the first place?

>>85042161
Bruno ended up getting seriously hurt because of all this mess in the latest issue I believe so that might have pushed her. We'll probably see the reason in the next few issues

>>85037010
Wow. It's like Bendis really is a modern day Stan Lee. Putting speech over art that didn't need it and thus making it worse in the process.

>>84996532
>Hey Carol
>Got your loli

>>84996532

>Kamala and Miles
I'm sorry, Carol.

>>85037580
>AND Captain America
Anon, maybe you missed the part where Cap is a HYDRA Agent.

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>>84997190

>you don't have the ability to arrest people under the laws of the United States
The practice of citizen's arrest is legally protected in most states.

Amusingly, I just found an article that addresses the topic of arrests by superheroes directly: http://lawandthemultiverse.com/2011/03/07/superheroes-and-citizens-arrest/

>>84996532
Please tell me I'm not the only one laughing at how everyone just happens to all be there on the roof in time for the big throw down quips because I'm looking at these rosters and trying to figure out how they timed it so well.

Is everyone on Carol's side living in Triskelion or some shit?

>>85037010
>you're gay

>>85043119
>Gay? As in homosexual?

>>85042693
Yeah but he doesn't seem to be all that bad in the last issue. He's already rebelling against Red Skull

DCfag here, why do you guys put yourself through this? Are all Marvel fans on /co/ masochists?

I'm not saying there aren't some good Marvel titles, but everyone seems to be reading and talking about the terrible ones.

>>85014174

>God only knows why Tony brought the greenest rookie imaginable to this fight, though.
So that Tony can empathize with Carol's decision to bring Rhodey when the girl dies.

>>85043267
>I'm not saying there aren't some good Marvel titles
If there ARE any good ongoing Marvel titles, I'm not aware of them. The best of Marvel's ongoing stuff has been mediocre at best, so it's more interesting to talk about the terrible.

>>85043191
Yes, because he's going to try and take over HYDRA. Supreme Leader Rogers may be a good guy still, but he's also HYDRA.

>>85044138
Vision is consistently quality, Ms. Marvel and New Avengers are consistently good, but that's about it

>>85044138
>Vision
>Moon Knight
>Carnage
>Ultimates
>Contest of Champions
>New Avengers
>Spider-man/Deadpool
>Nighthawk
>Hyperion
>Gwenpool
Have you read any of these? Because it's kind of your own fault if you're only paying attention to the bad books while ignoring the good ones.

>>85044393
I remember reading that Steve had fake memories of Hydra implanted into him, which was to explain him suddenly being pro-Hydra.

Was that not the case?

>>85044537
More "cosmic cube'd" than "fake memory implants" but the end result is mostly the same.

>>85044486
>Nighthawk
>Hyperion
BATMAN AND SUPERMAN DONE RIGHT
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN MARVEL WROTE BEST BATMAN AND SUPERMAN IN LAST TEN YEARS

>>84996566
I hate comics.

>>85044593
So the "Steve was introduced to Hydra as a kid" thing never actually happened? Or did it rewrite history?

I don't know how Cosmic Cubes work.

>Banner adks Clint to kill him if he turns

>Immediately shoots him at the slightest accusation of Hulking, despite Banner showing no signs of Hulking and trying to calmly explain things.

When did Clint's shot judgement turn to garbage?

>>85044637
Imagine that Steve got replaced by an alternate reality version of himself where him being introduced to HYDRA as a kid actually happened.

>>85044736
and that Steve is the one appearing through Civil War II?

How's that supposed to work?

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>>85044775
Yes. How it's supposed to work is that everyone thinks it's the same ol' Steve, while he's secretly doing pic related.

>>85037146
I recall Spencer say that he's following whichever side gets Maria Hill off his back.

>>85044917
Sellout.

>>85044837
and what is he actually doing?

helping to orchestrate some big hydra plot?

>>84996532
So why are there past and present X-men in the present again?

I remember the thing with Hank and stablizing his mutation, and that's it.

>>84996566
How come whenever Marvel tries to tackle serious issues, it always ends in a big super hero punch-up, like a comic-con pub crawl that's turned ugly?

>>85044971
He's working for Red Skull to orchestrate some big hydra plot, while secretly trying to usurp power and become the new Supreme Leader.

Basically, Steve wants to Make HYDRA Great Again.

>>85044999
Beast brought them from the past to present hoping that they'd shame Scott Summers. Then they ended up not doing that so Beast tried to send them back only to find that he can't, and now they're stuck in the present.

>>85045064
That's pretty stupid.

>>85044486
More that after most of what I've read I've been unwilling to dive further into the sea of shit to find the pearls, but thanks for the recommendations anon, I'll check those out.