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So did webcomic creators get together at some convention a few years ago and decide that they all have to have lesbians in their comics? I understand that having gay main or secondary characters is very much in fashion, I just don't understand why gay male couples are so shunned.

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>>84986817
>wanting to see dudes kissing dudes
What are you gay?
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What To Do When You Run Out Of Ideas? Add lesbos because they are caste and pure because reasons...
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>>84986817
Dunno man, it makes sense to me that the witch is gay. Maybe thats just cause I grew up with Buffy.
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>>84986896
You aren't?

Since we're on the subject, my theory is that the chicks making these lesbian comics are lesbians themselves, simple as that (this particular creator is clearly lesbian). The dudes who make lesbian comics are doing what any healthy straight male would do: draw lesbians to jerk off to.

Fewer people are able to jerk off to gay dudes, hence there's fewer of them in webcomics.
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>>84986817
>So did webcomic creators get together at some convention a few years ago and decide that they all have to have lesbians in their comics?

No. Over a decade ago, everybody couldn't help noticing that webcomics featuring lesbians were among the most popular.

>I just don't understand why gay male couples are so shunned.
Plenty of gay comics around, they existed in this medium ever since its inception.
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Lemme break it down for you.

1 Lesbians have always been the safe sexual minority, always
2 Most Webcomic readers, and artists, are straight men, so lesbians appeal to not only their need for SJ Brownie points, but also for pervs
3 Gay males are only found in comics made by women for fujoshits and gay men, who are far fewer in number

Basically, Lesbians are a double whammy for Webcomickers, because you can fetishize them and also claim to be brave.


And while we're at it, because this is becoming a Webcomic trend, the reason there are so many girls in veils, or Hijabs as you know them, in the backgrounds of Webcomics, is because you get diversity points without having to waste space explaining why they're diverse
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This just reminds me that Teahouse is gone. Fuck you and your lesbians the best dudes fucking dudes comic is gone forever.
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>>84986817
It was at the same con where every lead needs to be black as well,
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>>84986950
>And while we're at it, because this is becoming a Webcomic trend, the reason there are so many girls in veils, or Hijabs as you know them, in the backgrounds of Webcomics, is because you get diversity points without having to waste space explaining why they're diverse

Ah, yes. I remember the Hiveworks sumbission guide for what kind of characters they wanted to see in the pitched comics this year had the oh-so-fashionable, vaguely brown hijab girl front and center.

Easier to score SJW points than with lesbians, since you can't necessarily tell that a character is a lesbian just by looking at them.
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>>84986817
>So did webcomic creators get together at some convention a few years ago and decide that they all have to have lesbians in their comics?
You think you need a gathering to decide to do this?

Most people know that lesbians improve everything. Ask the porn industry.
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>>84986817
Most webcomic writers are men and are a bit weirded out by writing gay men, most likely. Lesbians are sexy.

Another big issue with gay men is that they sort of "tie up" characters in a way that lesbians don't. As sad as it is to say, the homosexual character is usually a secondary character, and men are usually the most important, main characters. Men are premium, women are less so. This probably, again, stems from the fact that writers are straight men. It's easy to write what you identify with.

So generally a gay character would have to be an important, main, or lead character, while a lesbian can be safely relegated to secondary or side status. Not that you COULDN'T write a secondary gay character or a main lesbian character, just that typically men drive the stories, and if there were a gay man driving the story, you'd have to write stories about gay men. If you catch my drift.
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>>84987032
>Most webcomic writers are men
Most of the webcomic writers who cram lesbians in their comics these days are women. OP's pic related, Blindsprings, Sister Claire, Balderdash, Princess Princess and Go get a Roomie are examples I can think of off the top of my head.

Perhaps women are equally grossed out by the tought of a man's penis up another man's butthole.
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>>84987097
>Blindsprings
I think Blindsprings also has a gay couple, though they didn't come right out and say it. The scene recently with them looked super fucking gay, though. It's also obviously going for the "as many skins colors as possible even if it makes the world building seem odd" thing. Sister Claire also doesn't really fit into the list there, because the creator sort of got super worked up I guess and is purposefully jamming in as many not straight characters as they can by this point, apparently. It didn't seem like they were doing so earlier on, so I don't know whether this was a later change. These are a bit distinct, I would argue, from the typical "here's a webcomic and oh look lesbians."

I feel like in those instances, it's a cross of trying to be all inclusive, and a resurgent rash of whatever that wave of feminism that the political lesbians was. No less annoying for some people, I guess, but at least somewhat less hypocritical than other examples.
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>>84986817
There are actually a fuckton more gay webcomics than lesbian ones (and as somebody that wants lesbian webcomics it hurts that there are actually so few). It's just that lesbians are more prevalent in non-LGBT webcomics and especially the popular ones.
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>>84987223
>It's just that lesbians are more prevalent in non-LGBT webcomics and especially the popular ones.
Simpy put: guy dudes are okay for porn comics but too scary to be included by mainstream creators.
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>>84987223
The gay webcomics are little more than emotional masturbation tools for straight women. Even when they aren't they tend to be written awful. I just want two gay guys on a non-LGBT story. Like fuck off with that garbage. There are a million fucking coming out stories. Stop spinning that wheel and make something good that stands on it's own without all that cliche bullshit.

I have no problems with LGBT issues in a story but gay webcomics tend to make it all about that.
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>>84987189
>Sister Claire also doesn't really fit into the list there, because the creator sort of got super worked up I guess and is purposefully jamming in as many not straight characters as they can by this point, apparently.
I believe the creator of Sister Claire is a transgender woman married to another woman, who may or may not also be trangendered. It's hard to tell, they both look a lot like ugly dudes.
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>>84987223
>there are few

Kill yourself.

Representation is never enough for these obssessive faggots, even if they are less than 10% of the population.
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>>84986817
Some people like lesbians. I mean, shiet, I'd put some in my webcomic too.
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>>84986817
Examples at webcomic /lgbt/ general: >>>/lgbt/6629616

Agree with >>84987271 - most in the pastebin linked from above general are frankly terribly written, which might be part of the reason.

Examples of tolerable gay characters in webcomics I follow:

- Larry from Octopus Pie

- Sonny from Bad Machinery

- Robot and Shadow from Gunnerkrigg Court

It helps if the character is not solely defined by their gayness but have an actual personality: Larry likes providing life advice (and is never seen in a relationship); Sonny likes helping the team, solving mysteries; Robot is manipulating both the Seraphims and the robot angel cult.
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>>84986817

All cultures have a pretty limited set of common forms that people understand and expect. Lesbians are a "push-button" device that writers include to immediately tune in to a set of reader preconceptions.

The same writer that uses lesbians today would have used air-headed blondes in the 1950's or evil Germans in the 1920's. Most creativity isn't that creative, it's just fashion.
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>>84987382
>Sonny from Bad Machinery
Sonny barely counts because there's literally only one page where he's gay. I don't even mean "they're not gay if they're not fagging it up all the time or having gaynst," but "if you remove this one page there's zero hints that he's gay." Nothing before the page indicates it, unless you count "isn't driven mad with lust for girls" (to which the paragraph below addresses), and nothing after the page does anything with it in any way. Not that he's really shown up much after it.

One of his focus chapters, maybe his only focus chapter now that I think about it, is literally him going through puberty by having "rude" dreams about a naked girl he saw in the ocean. The character arc has him balancing trying to help her out with her obvious problems and having feelings for her getting in the way of what might be best for her. It seems bizarre that this chapter, a major character arc for him, would be there if he was gay. Bi, maybe. But still.

It largely reads like the author inserted that one page as an out there joke twist. Considering he seems to keep waffling about what story he wants to write next and where to take them, it comes across as him making up a lot of shit as he goes along.
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