Marvels Good Writers

>>84979931
Check out Tom King's Vision.

>>84979931
Bunn Uncanny x-men and Bunn deadpool merc with money.

>>84979931
Lemire's not-team books

Le mire on Moon Knight, Old Man Logan. NightHawk

Spencer.

>>84979931
>If you want, recommend me some other works as well.
Uncanny X-Force Vol. 1, Uncanny Avengers Vol. 1, #1-22
Secret Warriors
>>84980207
>tfw you fell for the vision meme
Feels good lads.
>>84980531
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>84979931
Bendis ,and i not joking

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>>84980531

People are going to give you shit but Spencer's Steve Rogers has been a hoot and I've enjoyed it. If you like Ewing's silliness I think you'd like Spencer's style as well.

>>84981106
Elaborate.

>>84981106
>Bendis, and I'm not joking.

Fixed that grammar for you, Anon.

>>84981106
>who else currently in Marvel is a good writer?
>who else currently in Marvel
>who else currently
>currently
Bendis was good a decade ago but his current output is unmitigated trash

Duggan is really good. His post SW stuff has been a little weaker but his NOW Deadpool is easily in the top 5 marvel books of this decade

>>84979931
>Ewing
>good

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Kelly, Conway, Thompson

>>84981576
Always have trouble who I prefer DP with. Shiklah & Death are perfect.

Any recommendations for the upcoming Legion show?

>>84982876
Spurrier's Legacy.

There's also some pretty good stories in X-Men Legacy from I guess Dark Reign-Regenesis.

Why have Waid and Robinson gone from God tier to decent at best?

Also Wilson is good. Well, I've only read Ms. Marvel but it's been consistently good and she's really good at keeping social justice shit separate from her career.

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>>84983558

Robbie Thompson has been randomly killing it at Silk, Venom and Spidey
idk who he is, but I'm enjoying all three of those runs a lot

I like Soule. Idk how /co/ feels about him.

>>84979931
Greg Pak and Peter David are doing pretty well at the moment. They've done better, but they aren't doing bad right now.

Also:
>>84980207
>>84981260
>>84981576
>>84983558

>>84983558
>Waid
I have no idea.

>>84981507
Yes. Problem?

>>84983558
>Why have Waid and Robinson gone from God tier to decent at best?

Waid really hasn't been that great since the start of his Daredevil run and that went downhill pretty quick. The last Marvel book I genuinely enjoyed him on was Spider-Man and that was several years ago.

Robinson, though... That's tough to say. I think he dropped off about a decade ago. He blew every single chance DC gave him since he came back to comics (Batman, Detective Comics, Superman, Action Comics, Justice League, etc). Earth 2 was solid at the start but I don't think anyone saw it going strong for a long time even without the editorial interference.

It's unfortunate because Robinson's run on Starman and JSA remain some of my favorite comic runs.

>>84981260
It's really satisfying not knowing where the story is heading.
I also recommend Gerry Duggan. His current DP isn't as off the walls fantastic as the last run, but it's still proven to have the spark I started reading it for. Even then, I think he's putting his heart into Uncanny Avengers, which is fantastic after the first issue roughness (art is a contributor to that, be even at issue 2 Stegman is notably better than he has been for a while).
>>84983625
Thompson is currently the most underrated writer.

>>84984715
Starman and JSA are like a blind squirrel finding a nut
idk how he did it but those are both like perfect runs
and all of his Marvel work seems so absolutely uninspired
besides his All-New Defenders
he just seems like he's going through the motions
that Airboy might be more true than fiction
that man really has problems he needs to work through
I hate his Scarlet Witch and I'm a Wandafag

>>84984802
I think Marvel is grooming Thompson to take over Slott or Bendis on ASM or SM
he's like a secret talent from out of nowhere
but I'd argue that Silk, Venom and Spidey are my favorite Marvel books these days besides Vision, Gwenpool and Moon Knight

>>84984715
>Earth 2 was solid at the start but I don't think anyone saw it going strong for a long time even without the editorial interference.
His Earth 2 was god-tier.
Even when he left he gave DC and the next writer more than enough of an interesting setting for them to do some cool stories.
And then they blew up the earth.
What. The. Fuck?
I... just can't with DC anymore. I just can't. They take everything pure and turn it to ash.

>>84984824
>I hate his Scarlet Witch and I'm a Wandafag
I don't hate it, but it's not his best work. Still nice to see them at least trying to give Wanda an ongoing. Maybe next time they'll get it right.
His Squadron Supreme is pretty cool though. I'm enjoying that.

>>84984919
>I... just can't with Marvel anymore. I just can't. They take everything pure and turn it to ash.
iktfb

>>84984919
is SS good? Just Scarlet Witch deserves a better story
and for someone who respects the hell out of continuity, he seems to have dropped the ball a lot both with her previous characterization and how her powers work
it's infuriating
I kinda like Hyperion even though it's not muhhh bearded bro badass Hyperion and the story is kinda slow but I've been hesitant to read his Squadron because it seems so Namor heavy from solicitations and that's weird to me

>>84984875
I wish we got an Ewing Spider-run.
His passion for mining continuity would be stellar with Spidey.

>>84984969
I've been enjoying it.
So far it hasn't been too Namor heavy save for the first issue. After that I haven't seen him.
<.< >.> <.<

>>84985013
honestly, Slott is a continuity fan too
like pretty hardcore
I don't know if that's the best idea
fresh ideas instead of reformulating the past

>>84985031
I'll check it out then
Robinson is just like either perfect and comfy or boring and tedious
not really in between with him besides that Krypton arc thing

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>>84985013

Personally, I want Ewing Night Thrasher ongoing.

He was absurd in Contest of Champions and I loved it.

I think Kelly Thompson is pretty good

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>>84980377
Is Lemire's run on Hawkeye Any good?

>>84986561
no not at all
Moon Knight is alright with GOAT art and his X-Men kinda sucks

>>84979931
The current Captain Marvel run had a great opening by Fazekas and Butters.
Unfortunately they're gone now and we're well into Civil War II tie-ins so get ready for Marvel to piss away all that good will.

>>84983620
Well, I've also often heard that Iranians are really nice persons. And that a lot of them are quite secular, unlike their shit government.

>>84986561
Didn't he have Clint let Hydra or AIM kidnap children because they had super powers and he didn't know how to deal with them?

>>84983620
I know a lot of Iranians and they are all very nice and well adjusted people. Pictures from their holidays in Iran look scenic as well. Unfortunately the government is terrible. Iran is what Turkey will be in years or so.
They have a fine cuisine and they make surprisingly good movies as well.

>>84985379
This is some fucking Independence Day Macbook shit

>>84981576
Why is Conway on DC so shit? Like holy shit Firestorm is sooo predictable and terrible it's not even fun to storytime it anymore.

>>84984715
Those first 5 issues of JSA he did sucked ass.

>>84987260
It's visualized as videogame, anon. I think it's meant to.

>>84980531

>Nick "I hate freedom" Spencer

Fuck that commie cuck

>>84980531
>>84981260
Agreed, Spencer's Steve Cap is good so far and the Pleasant Hill event was one of the best I've read in recent years.

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>>84988257
Nick's alright

>>84980531
I have to admit, even though the first issue was complete crap, the second was an utter joy to read. All the pieces just fit together and knowing how Marvel is, I was not expecting that to happen at all

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>>84988499

He literally said that he supports abolishing the 2nd Amendment. Fuck him

>>84984919
But Robinson was the one who blew up the planet

>>84988621
What issue is this
I wanna read this
This looks good

>>84988621
So he's nuts, I'm not voting him into office. I'm just reading his comics.

>>84987203
It was SHEILD. Hydra was making Akira's and SHEILD wanted to lock them up so Kate convinced him to help break them free. It was pretty in character for everyone until the end when SHEILD comes to his apartment and Clint just shrugs and gives up.

>>84988621
Who cares? We're talking about their quality as a writer, not whether or not their twitter feed triggers you because you're deathly afraid of liberals.

>>84983620
Well, yeah, most Iranians are good people, their food is great, and it's a beautiful country. Also farsi is a much easier language to bullshit your way through than arabic since it has some french influence.

The problem is that their government is legit evil.

>>84990028
We should really get in there and fix that for them.

>>84983674
/co/ used to meme him up as the next greatest writer of all time. "Beep Beep, get on board the SOULE TRAIN XD"

Then he signed a Marvel exclusive and wrote one mediocre comic then suddenly everyone turned on him saying that he is and always has been a hack.

>>84983558
>Why have Waid and Robinson gone from God tier to decent at best?
Because they peaked 20 years ago? It's rare to have a writer maintain their quality for that long when it comes to cape comics. Just look at someone like Claremont.

That Conway and Giffen are still able to put out such good comics is fucking astounding.

>>84979931
I'm loving Ucanny and mercs for money from Cullen, plus Drax has been pretty funny recently, it's also from Bunn(I doubt CM Punk is doing much).

I like both James Robinson books, Squadron supreme is one of my favorites right now, and even though I don't care much about Wanda, the book has been interesting also.

Obviously Tom King, but he isn't Marvel anymore.

I'm also liking the job Duggan is doing on Deadpool, and Uncanny Avengers.

>>84988621
>"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
I think nowadays the "well regulated Militia" part is quite overlooked.

>>84984824
>Starman and JSA are like a blind squirrel finding a nut
>idk how he did it but those are both like perfect runs

Starman was edited by Archie Goodwin. Robinson was one of the writers Goodwin mentored and made a lot better than they usually are.

Another writer like that is Jeph Loeb. Long Halloween was edited by Goodwin and he was another Goodwin protege who's never been quite the same since his death.

>>84988621
The thread's title is "good writers", bud.

>>84980207
Jesus, Vision is ridiculously good.

>>84990975
We have these actually. National Guards, while also answerable to the federal governments are very closely related to their states.

Not that guy, but Spencer is shit. Just read Iron Man 2.0 to realize this.

>>84991967
Exactly. Good writers, not evil writers, and there's nothing more evil than being a leftist.

>>84983674
He's not as good at Marvel as he was at DC. His Thunderbolts was good but short-lived, his She Hulk was pretty good but got screwed in the art department, and most of his current stuff is just kinda okay.
I haven't read his Daredevil though, it might be good.

>>84988621
To people who aren't American, the way guns are such a politicized issue in America is fucking nuts.

>>84979931
The Ultimates is great. Ewing needs a fucking raise before DC snatches him up.

>>84988621
Who cares about his political orientation
We're talking about his writing

>>84979931
>ewing
>good
lel

>>84980207
yawn. overrated as fuck

>>84983674
His superhero stuff is forgettable to me. But his indi stuff is good. Strange Attractors is pretty great so far

>>84992801
>yawn
jesus christ, this fucking board

>>84988257
His Ant-man is awesome though

>>84989041
don't just don't read that. it's from Fear Itself

>>84990072
>and wrote one mediocre comic

And then continued to write more mediocre comics.

>>84992562
I think he may be too much of a Marvel fanboy to ever leave.
Unless...
He couldn't possibly be just as knowledgeable of DC, right?

>>84992880
I find that a lot of the continuityfag writers are. Parker, Waid, Soule, etc. I think it's honestly more about their mindset than anything else. Just a willingness to dig in and find cool concepts from the past to explore

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>>84983620
>G Williow Wilson is white
What?
I just thought she was an arab with a weird name.

that fucking soils Ms. Marvel for me, it's apparently too much for Marvel to hire a real Muslim to write Kamala

>>84992914
Which is ironic since Marvel seems intent on shitting on continuityfags these days.

>>84992967
>race
>having anything to do with religion
you fags don't even know what you hate anymore

>>84992967
She is Muslim.
Just not Middle Eastern.

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>>84993104
I mean

I'd prefer if they got a muslim from birth to right it. Wilson has only been one for a decade. But never mind what I said, I was reminded that the first volume was good.

But still, the only POC writing at marvel is the BP writer

>>84993163
What sort of regressive ass shit is this?
>only muslims can write muslims, and only black people can write black people

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>>84993203
I'm not necessarily saying that, I'm just saying being a similar race/religion/sexuality as what you're writing REALLY helps.

>>84993342
So what you're saying is despite apparently liking Ms Marvel so far, you don't like it as much as you did now because the person writing it hasn't got brown skin

>>84993342
Except despite what the advertising and shitposting would tell you, being a Muslim isn't the most important part of Kamala's character. Honestly, I find the massive superhero nerd is a more important part of her character.

>>84992801
Who do you like oh wise anon?

>>84993414
>>84994699
>trying to reason with an ess jay double u

>>84992967
She's Muslim and lived in Egypt for years. She's just also white. Muslim is a religion, not an ethnicity. The pakistani influence is from the editor, Sana Amant.

suggest me a Marvel book, I currently only read Vision and Karnak

my other pulls:
>A&A
>The Autumnlands
>Batman
>BPRD
>Chew
>Conan the Slayer
>East of West
>Future Quest
>Groo: Fray of the Gods
>James Bond
>Looney Tunes
>Prophet: Earth War
>Sex
>Stray Bullets: Sunshine and Roses
>Titans
>Velvet
>Wonder Woman
>X-O Manowar

>>84996044
Moon Knight, Ultimates, and Carnage are good.

>>84996044
Monstress
Green Arrow
Faster Than Light
Strange Attractors
Ultimates

>>84990072
Literally what they're saying about Tom King now.

>>84981576
I read somewhere that Thanos got mad that death liked deadpool so much and cursed him to never die as a result. Is this true?

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>>84979931

>Nobody has mentioned Dan Abnett

>>84997379
he just went DC exclusive famiglia

>>84997260
Probably, I read about 5 issues of Way's run before I dropped that comic like hot garbage.

>>84997412

Well then idk...Marvel lost all their good writers

>>84997435
Abnett wasn't even one of their good writers. Hercules and Guardians of Infinity weren't very good, senpai.

>>84996044
Ultimates
Moon Knight
Old Man Logan

Heard Carnage is good too, haven't read it yet.

>>84997433
Anon, that predates Way's run by years.

>>84997379
Abnett is so painfully average on everything (yes, that includes his DC work too). I'm convinced GotG and Annihilation were that good because of Lanning.

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>>84997530
Carnage is so good that it's not getting cancled for the start of the new season. I'd recomend it.

>>84997554
Wow really? I guess my casual is showing today then, fuck. Well, to be honest, I only ever liked Deadpool in Cable And Deadpool, and the current Spider-Man and Deadpool comic. Slowly starting to collect the classic Joe Kelly run though.

>>84997576
read his 2000AD work on Dredd and Strontium Dog, it's quite good. Also I hear his novels are better than his comics.

>>84997624
It's a shame they didn't give Carnage a better artist. Who's the artist for the NOW relaunch?

>>84997664
Not sure, but personally I love the art work, guy has a great way of setting a horror movie like tone for the comic, and most important of all, he doesn't draw Carnage with fucking white teeth. Can't tell you how badly that was getting to me before this comic came out.

>>84997379
>Abnett
>good

His aquaman isn't even better than Johns, famajam, and his Hercules was hot garbage compared to Pak's.

>>84983558
Waid's solo stuff is still good

>>84997516
His DC stuff is good though

>>84980531
I really don't get the hate Nick Spenser gets now and then from this forum. His Superior Foes was a hoot, his Secret Avengers run was interesting, and he knows his shit. Hell, he seems to love minor villains and heroes by uses them constantly.

>>84993163
>muslim from birth
That doesn't exist

I only read X-Men from Marvel, so that's about all I can speak to.

I think Lemire, Bunn, and Hopeless are all pretty decent, especially since they are being hamstrung by editorial unlike any writers before their time.

>>84992967
I had the same reaction when I discovered Christopher Priest was white.

>>85001645
Are you SURE you're thinking of the right Christopher Priest, Anon? Because the one who wrote Black Panther and is going to write Deathstroke is indeed black.

>>85001576
Because his prose is shit.
His artists are more often than not garbage (which while not his fault--although I'm sure that there's some reason why it could be, I don't know about how delayed he is with scripts though--certainly hurts because of association), his ideas frequently come off as well thought out but poorly executed.

Basically, he's Grant Morrison if Grant Morrison was really fucking bad and there wasn't room to debate, Despite muh Hydracap, Spencer has none of the iconoclastic bombast of Morrison, and it sucks.

>>84996985
When does the first trade of Monstress drop?

>>84992869
As in the main event or a side book? All I've read of Fear Itself was the Kid Loki books which were good enough, but I heard the event itself was shit (as per usual).

>>85003275
It already did

Like 200 pages for 10 dollars

>>85003318
Groovy. I skimmed the first issue when it came out and it seemed okay. That's a good deal for the price, and I'm glad Image is sticking with the 10 dollar price point.
Is the art the strong point of the series or is the writing equally, if not better, quality?

>>85003302
The main book.

>>84979931
What the fuck, Ewing has been writing Contest of Champions? And there's Stormin' Norman and 2099 Punisher and Ares? I've been fucking missing out.

>>85003629
>Stormin' Norman
Actually that's a Tony Stark that won Civil War with a Reality Stone.

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>>85003629

it just ended this month because of poor sales.

Any Current Marvel Books I should read, as well as past ones?

>>85003629
You missed out on the whole thing, with only 10 issues. You failed to help keep it alive anon. You & the others that ignored it. You didn't know the potential it had & the genius Ewing did with it. You failed us. Sorry, just depressed it ended so shortly.

>>85003758
Oh shit yes

>>85003811
>>85003969
Oh shit no

I must repent for my sins

>>85003857
Miller Daredevil
Claremont X-men
Busiek Avengers
Classic Spider-Man

>>85004027
Yes, now get to reading. Then buy all 10 issues.

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>>84997576

Guardians of Infinity was good though...

>>84997624
People keep saying that Carnage is good.
I loathe the character, he is in my worse villains ever Top 5. Only time I liked him was during Axis.
Is it still worth reading for the plot and for the side characters?

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>>84980531

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>>84992967
She's a white woman who converted to Islam after 9/11.

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>>84993163
>But still, the only POC writing at marvel is the BP writer
Who celebrated 9/11 stoned and advocates black people get paid for being black.

>>85006307
The series is framed with Carnage as a horror movie villain, the focus is more on the main crew that wants to take down Carnage. Cletus still has scenes of his own but they're more for driving the plot forward.

The plot so far is a team is assembled to take down Carnage, shit goes wrong, then cult shit added on top.

It's not a groundbreaking run or anything so far but it's enjoyable, mainly to see how the mysteries unfold and the whole cat and mouse aspect of this team trying to take down Carnage and Carnage's counters.

It's really starting to get annoying how they're delegating the whole thing so that only woman write woman characters, only blacks write black characters etc. That also goes with movies and directors.

>>84989051
>>84992651
>>84988621

IMO, if I'm going to read a book hat has politics as a major theme like Captain America, I don't especially care for a writer with politics that don't match Cap's established view points given they're likely to bleed theirs into him, turning him into a mouth piece instead of a character.

Plus, I don't care for how Spencer handles his villains, ie: almost all the exact same way. Red Skull, Zemo, and that scientist and the Capwolf comic all read like identical personalities: mostly non-challant evil snarktrons.

>>84979931
>Al Ewing
>Good

Reading Al Ewing is like reading the works of someone who just looks at wikipedia articles instead of comics

>>85007421
Nice bait mate

>>84981482
Came here to say this. The bulk of what made Sam's Nova run good was by him

>>85007463
If it's any conciliation he's far from the worse marvel has but I don't understand all the dicksucking for Whacky Sentai Avengers and Baby's First Cosmic books

>>85007225
Most of Marvel's books are being written by white men, regardless of the protagonist's gender/race.

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>>84979931
>Besides Al Ewing

>>85007515
I think it's probably because the current run of books he's made have been consistently above mediocre & also made with some fun in mind. Also his run on Contest of Champions seemed to help.

>>85007696
Holy shit, what a throwback. Haven't seen you post this in months, Bitch Ewing.

>>85006983
The fuck is this shit?

>>85007257
>IMO, if I'm going to read a book hat has politics as a major theme like Captain America, I don't especially care for a writer with politics that don't match Cap's established view points given they're likely to bleed theirs into him, turning him into a mouth piece instead of a character.

This.

>>85006983
he's a shit writer too
Walker is another terrible writer
wtf

>>85007257
>>85008433
But all the political stuff with Captain America is on the Sam Wilson side, and Sam has always been a democrat. He was a black social worker in Harlem for fucks sake.

Also the Steve Rogers Captain America stuff he's done has been after Steve was turned into a HYDRA agent by a cosmic cube so how he's written is completely up in the air.

>>85009157
Ah Walker. The one writing about Occupy, Ferguson, and having both Furys go back in time to save baby Obama. What a shit.

>>85011564
there must be some black people and women who have actual stories to tell that don't have anything to do with their color, creed gender or sexuality

>>84985379
Can I read more of this Night Thrasher somewhere?

>>85007257
But Cap's politics have changed significantly over the years precisely because different people wrote him, he has no "established" politics.

>>85014366
New Warriors is an absolute blast
he's like Bruce Wayne but more of a madman

>>85001645
>Confusing Christopher Priest who wrote Black Panther with Christopher Priest who wrote Inverted World
Two different guys.

>>85003857
Recs time?
Current:
Vision by King and Walta
New Avengers
the Ultimates
Contest of Champions
A-Force
Ms. Marvel
All-New Wolverine
Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur
Darth Vader
Totally Awesome Hulk
All-New All-Different Avengers
Nova
Black Panther
Old Man Logan
Both Captain America books
Drax
Venom the Spaceknight

>>85016293
>>85003857
Past:
Walt Simmonson's Thor
Frank Miller's Daredevil
Stan Lee & Steve Ditko's Doctor Strange
Brian Vaughan's Runaways
Kieron Gillen's Journey Into Mystery
Simon Spurrier's X-Men: Legacy

Graphic Novels:
Silver Surfer: Parable by Stan Lee & Moebius
Silver Surfer: Armageddon by Stan Lee & John Buscema
Doctor Strange & Doctor Doom: Triumph & Torment by Roger Stern & Mike Mingola
Death of Captain Marvel by Jim Starlin

Cosmic Stuff:
Annihilation evet
Annihilation: Conquest event
Nova by Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (first 12 issues and annual run alongside conquest)
Guardians of the Galaxy by the same writers.
X-Men: Rise & Fall of the Shi'Ar Empire by Ed Brubaker. It was followed by mini or two, I think Emperor Vulcan and Kingbreakers
Secret Invasion: Inhumans
War of Kings Event
Realm of Kings books
(in both above avoid Son of Hulk books tho)
Thanos Imperative
Two Annihillators miniseries

>>85016712
>no UXF
Triggered

>>85016712
>X-Men: Rise & Fall of the Shi'Ar Empire by Ed Brubaker. It was followed by mini or two, I think Emperor Vulcan and Kingbreakers
Need to include Deadly Genesis.

>>84979931
Golly, That Norman armor, I forgot how entertaining the Dark Avengers era was, who was it that made that happen?

>>85017397
Benis

>>85017402
How DARE you (almost) post that accursed name!

>>85017447
It's true though.
Dark Reign was peak Benis.

>>85013869
But that's literally the only reason they're hired now. Gone are the days of Louise Simonson.

>>84979931
>marlel
>good writing

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>>85018616
Wow, very original.

>>85016293
Contest of Champions (2015-16) is what got me back in it. A great suggestion indeed.

Question, never read Black Vortex, hell I didn't know it existed til I saw one issue. Any good?

>>84979931
Peter David.
At least I haven't heard people deriding Spiderman 2099 yet.

>>85022950
Not really, no.

>>85017454
Dark Reign was interesting as a concept but a lot of books got really derailed by it. The only solo I can think of that really benefited from it was Punisher

>>85022980
Current 2099 is alright at best. PAD has definitely lost a lot of his touch and the art is really bad. Plus the Inhumans shilling got in the way of what I actually cared about so I stopped reading month to month

>>85024718
I can agree mostly with that.
World's Most Wanted was really good though, even if the result was a bit of a cop out.

The Utopia storyline was really neat too, imo.

bampu

>>84992880
Eh, he's a Brit.

>>85017964
But Louise Simonson wrote Faith.

>>85013869
Priest is going to write Deathstroke and there's the guy who was head writer on spider-man animated series writing Cyborg.

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>>84979931

>>85026889
R-reported...

Does any one have that list of all the Marvel authors that have been leaving in droves?

>>85026998
to image?
KSD
Remender
Fraction
Hickman

And then Abnett and Humphries jumped on the dc train

>>85027050
Oh and Gillen

But I think Gillen said he has a marvel thing coming up or he's rumored too

>>85027050
>to image?
Or D.C.
It was a pretty long list.
>>85027072
He's doing Star Wars, iirc.

>>85026889
We said Currently.

>>85026998
Jesus. Marvel fans or anyone that also like to read Marvel is fuckin' screwed.

>>85016712
>>85017226
Nearly everything focused on Vulcan sucked, though. That mini centered on Havok and the Spelljammers (Kingbreaker?) was particularly pointless.

>>85028213
>Nearly everything focused on Vulcan sucked
Source?

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>>84981106
>Bendis

Guardians of the Galaxy up through Thanos Imperative is my favorite team, then Bendis took it, used a team he sucked out of Disney's dick, added a few of the LEAST interesting comic book characters ever made (don't even get me started on Angela), and applied the following script over every 5 consecutive issues:
>cryptic object appears
>GotG interacts with cryptic object
>badguy out of nowhere
>Guardian out of nowhere
>Guardians win, and an hour has passed in the MU over the course of 5 fucking issues

His Iron Man comics have unbelievably terrible dialogue. The few issues my masochism got me through were full of awkward conversation and people talking in ways no person has ever spoken ever. It honestly made me wonder how long its been since Bendis's last human interaction (pic related, just the first example I found)

>>84985091
>honestly, Slott is a continuity fan too
Slot just needs an editor. Possibly somebody not buying in the whole "making fans angry sells more!"

>>84985013
I don't want Ewing to be wasted on A and B list characters
It's already bad enough that Slott doesn't give a fuck about the Reckoning War, the GLA or the ATI characters now that he gets to write Surfer and Spidey

>>84991682
good editors are so ignored by both fans and editorials...

I really enjoyed Contest of Champions, but after the last issue I noticed something that bugged me about Ewing.

When Outlaw revealed why he had retired, it felt like I was reading a poorly hidden political complaint about the Punisher. Frank's response was reasonable, which I appreciate, but Ewing basically turned Outlaw into his political mouthpiece.

I've never read anything with Outlaw before it, so correct me if I'm wrong, but if he really was just a "British Punisher" like he was constantly called, then Ewing Basically took a character someone else created, then made them do a complete 180 off panel so he could tell the readers his thoughts on racism.

With his Mighty Avengers and Ultimates taken into consideration, I start to get the feeling that Ewing has a habit of using black characters as self inserts. Blue Marvel in particular.

I still enjoy Ewing as a writer, and this is just a small complaint, but it bugs me a bit whenever I see it now.

>>85027072
>>85027050
From Marvel to Image or DC:
>KSD
>Remender
>Fraction
>Hickman
>Gillen
>King
>abnett
>rucka
>Priest
and some others I forget

From DC to marvel or Image:
>Fialkov
>Rucka but they got him back
>John Layman
>Soule
>Lemire
>Ellis

>>85030573
also for DC, Matt Kindt

I think Johns was a big enough fan of kindt's because he got him that sweet Martian Manhunter backup in the first run of new 52 jla

>>85030529
I don't know much about Outlaw, but from what I understand he never used lethal means. I think he wanted to be like Frank but then realized he wasn't angry enough to actually kill people.

DC also lost JH Williams 3, Haden Blackman, and mark waid

>>85030573
Brubaker.
I dunno if that's too far back.

>>85030573
>>85030674
Are Yost and Kyle still writing with Marvel?

Also, Ellis just floats around, so I'm not sure it's worth including him.

>>85030618
If that's true then my bad. Reading the book I got the feeling that was something Ewing added in, but I could definitely be wrong.

>>84990059
Because that worked out so well the last time we interfered with govts. in the middle east

>t. yemeni guy

>>85030709
pretty sure ellis has a contract with marvel stating he has to put a 6 issue series every year. right now its still karnak

>>85030779
IIRC he DID kill some, but usually he didn't went for the kill

>>85030869
I really liked his Secret Avengers

>>85028909
You read the stuff featuring him?
I already mentioned Kingbreaker or Emperor Vulcan (I think).

Deadly Genesis was "closet skeletons" retcon crap, killing characters for shock; so, basic brubaker. I'll give it points because the origin stories for each of the new characters were pretty well done, made me care about them.

The Uncanny X-Men run was meh, took too long to basically establish him as an annoying Anakin rip-off (I forget if I've ever learned how Corsair got better later).

War of Kings was sorta based, but that's easy mode because Cosmic Marvel at one of its best runs.

He was completely unlikeable in the end, it was just nice seeing him dying like a bitch.

>>85030091
That would help. Heard editorial told him to stretch Superior Spider-Man for as long as he did.

>>85030709
Last I heard, they were working on the movies. Wonder how Thor 2 managed to suck so bad with Yost working on it.

>>85031958
>I forget if I've ever learned how Corsair got better later
Lemme spoil it for you. Bendis didn't know he died.

>>85030573
You forgot DC driving Robinson to Marvel. Also Waid.

>>84992801
>yawn
Do your roleplay shit somewhere else

>>84990028
Except most of the examples used to say they're evil tend to be from people with no actual government power.
It's like using the mayor of New Jersey as an example of congress and the presidential staff being shitheads.

Wow, this is working pretty well. I have a long list of this down. Hey does anyone have a way to read US 1? I want to read that nonsense.

>>85034404
That's par for the course, but he was a main character in the Cyclops run, by someone else.
Is the other writer just as alienated? I mean, I heard that was a good run.

>>85040057
The run explains why he's alive again.

Duggan really is the most underappreciated writer at Marvel. He doesn't just write good books, he really builds shit. He revitalized Deadpool's supporting cast with new characters, built his relationships with established heroes, and pulled a bunch of Z listers out of the closet and now they're all getting their own (mini)series'.

>>85022950
It's just there so that Bendis can ship his waifu with his current self insert(Star Lord) and make her ultra powerful beyond all things but not dangerous like the phoenix because she's his extra special waifu that's too perfect to be corrupted by power.
Like everything else Bendis does it's also a rehash of an old classic X-men plot done badly as he lacks the imagination to invent or at least properly parody something.

>>85028909
>>85028213
I personally liked the What If? issue but it could just be the visuals at the end and Vulcan trying to sort out what the flying fuck is going on with his family tree during the final battle is hilarious when you stop to think about it.

>>85040941
Ah, good to know.
They got someone to clean after bendis' sht, and we get Corsair back. Yay?

>>85042048
Don't recall that one, but, yeah. The Grey/Summers family tree has to be one of the best/craziest things on Marvel.

>>85022950
I read the second part, Thanos has a legit crazy kid, Starlord and Babyclops have major daddy issues, one or two more alien planets get fucked over, there's a magic mirror that corrupts people with cosmic power and about seven heroes and six villains use it, then it ends with drama love and cosmic power regrets.
If it wasn't for all the consequential stuff that happened it'd be totally skippable.

>>85041985
Hey don't hold back, try to shitpost for real this time.
What do you really think?

>>85042617
It's not shitposting. It's just being snide about it without saying any lies.
We saw magic mirrors that grant amazing power several decades ago with the siege perilous. The entire run when looked at from a retrospective seems like the entire point is to ship Kitty with Peter Quill while establishing her as (literally) omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.

How certain is everyone that Corsair actually died? And that was the writer's intention in whatever story this reported demise is from?
There's fake, wrongly assumed, and "I got better" comic deaths all the time.

>>85042734
Really? It established that? Because she's none of those three things at the end of that story.
Is she an all-knowing god in that new Guardians series? The one with Ben Grimm? How do they draw her when she's everywhere at once? How short are those battle-scenes now that she's all powerful, that is to say: Omnipotent?
These words have meanings. I don't need to read Guardians to know that's not the new status quo.

>>85042804
He was shown being blasted hard, for a few panels I think? Seemed like the idea was to show him being killed big time by his own son, in front of everyone.

>>85042804
He was dead. The only level of dead above him was uncle Ben dead and we didn't see the inside of Uncle Ben on the outside.
>>85042964
I'll have to reread since my brain has been doing it's best to purge specific memories of it away but she didn't use those powers afterwards because she's the perfect waifu kitty pryde that would never be tempted to use her power outside of the most dire circumstances involving the lives of trillions upon trillions.
Then Bendis got bored of Gamora's powers or something and he decided the powers granted via ortex can run out from using them.

You guys think Silver Fox will see the light of day outside Contest of Champions?

>>85043480
If Ewing gets to continue with that team. I could see him doing an International Avengers book.

>>85043480
I think she got a single page in an IronMan issue, but I know she was the one who unmasked Solo in the first issue when he was one of Deadpool's Mercs, so it's not like they never-ever used her.

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>>85042804
Fukken ded

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>>85043480
White Fox* & Yes. Outlaw basically created a team with Stick, Ares, Guillotine, & Her. If Marvel really wants to waste their time NOT expanding this glorious team created by Ewing then I'm officially done. They've wasted plenty of opportunities with other characters that they actually had in the spotlight for a whil, including new ones
>i.e. Blue Ear
They better do something with that fuckin team. As well as give good writer' a raise & fix their shit. Who am I kidding, this is 'lets focus shoving our movie based stuff down our readers throats & let bendis basically control everything' Marvel, they probably forgot because a good comic series didn't get enough profit to warrant a sequel.

>>85043837
>Phobos
F

>>85043172
>Uncle Ben dead

Are you sure that you don't mean "Bucky dead"??? You know, gone for years and years and everyone keeps mentioning over and over how he's dead?

>>85043911
Hey, I didn't know Brevoort posted here.

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>>85043830
Hey look, unless they actually say someone is dead, hold a memorial service of some kind, and someone cries it doesn't count.
Getting ray-blasted counts as dead?
OMG! All the superheroes ever are zombies! They must be, because [ S P O I L E R ]: they've ALL been ray-blasted.
Think about this for a solid second, Every character has at least mentioned Wolverine's death, and he's not even really dead.
There are comics about characters visiting his tomb in rememberance, and he still doesn't count as dead.
They've F'ing replaced him, and we all know he's not really dead.

Corsair didn't even get a funeral, nobody was notified, there wasn't a scene where the friends and relatives get together and grieve.
Half of comics is dialog, they don't just skip the drama stuff.

>>85024783
There's no hope of X-Factor returning, is there?

>>85044742
>and he's not even really dead
>and we all know he's not really dead
What's the situation, then?

>>85045140
What version of X-Factor? Because that detail changes my answer.

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>>85045174
The guy's mutant power is to survive anything you put him through.
So they poured molten metal on him and we're s'posta think that did him in?

It's not rocket science.

>>85045432
that's not corsair, that's wolverine

>>85045432
>The guy's mutant power is to survive anything you put him through.
The guy's mutant power, barred retcons, is "healing factor".

Not saying he somehow won't "get better", but after what, a year? It's safe to say he's dead, for now.

What about Cyclops? Marvel swears he's dead right now, no?

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>>85045524
Cyclops is way overdue for a "I faked my death for _____ reasons"
It's a dick move but everyone in X-books does it:
ProfessorX used to do that all the time
Magneto used to do that all the time
Mr.Sinister even does it
Everyone who Rightclops has learned his life-lessons from has faked their death at some point, and Rightclops never did it himself.

But then again, he did say his goodbyes. And he gave away all his stuff. And he was really depressed. Maybe it was suicide?

>>85045829
>and Rightclops never did it himself
Thought that happened when he went by Erik the Red.

>>85045829
he doesn't even need to have faked his death. he's been host to the phoenix twice now. that's a free pass to declare 'my lingering connection to the pheonix force brought me back' as many times as you like

>>85045928
Ah yes, Erik The Red... forgot about that. I also don't know if he faked his death for that.
But I sure as Hell wouldn't wear that costume unless it was over my dead body...
Fashion villainy incarnate. Who wrote that travesty into being?