What your opinion on Calarts?

Responsible for everything bad in the world

Elitist, expensive and overrated.

this early really isn't going to get replys
also generic as fuck

>>84953923
It's 6pm where I live.

>>84953920
>>84953887
I get the feeling that most of the people that bitch about calarts here applied and got rejected and are forever salty about it.

I still think it's a great school, but too expensive to ever be worth it

>>84953990
Calarts is expensive though, considering it's just an art school. It costs around the same as going to medical school or even Harvard, I don't really know how you can justify that price.

>>84953990
>>84954017
There are better animation programs out there than Calarts for a fraction of the cost.

I looked at their application once and apparently they don't allow scans. You have to send them your physical artwork and you're not getting it back.

>>84953872
It's a school. I think.

Remember when Calarts meant your artwork was probably Disney-tier? What happened?

>>84954095

Then gives us the tip, you scrooge

>>84954131

Isn't that like a standard practice for art schools?

>>84954131
That retarded. Unless they mean for drawing tests they give you, no artist in their right mind is would turn in a portfolio with originals.

>>84954246
2d animation became outdated and so standards lowered

>>84954246

>he actually believes any network is gonna fund a cartoon with 40's level animation

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Don't quit your job, mate.

>>84954279
Go to Canada. Even as an international student getting overcharged, you'll likely be paying less in tuition than your average American college.

>>84954292
It isn't, not since the 90s.

>>84954359
Absolutely this

>>84954246
Korea happened.

>>84954328
Netflix will do such a thing, easy with $4 million a episode.

>>84954279
If you're ok with not getting a diploma, I cannot recommend Concept Design Academy in Pasadena enough. Pretty much Calarts tier in the amount you'll learn and connections you'll meet. And so much cheaper

>>84954359

But that's true for education in general, hell most basic services are cheaper in canuckland

Might as well just move to Canada

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>everybody thinks calarts causes shit style
>implying it is not artists who mooch off of successful ones because they are insecure about ther artstyles

>>84954646
No, they just lack talent is all.

It allright.

>>84953872
i hear that it's mandatory in order to get a decent job in the field

If you become successful after going to Calarts you were going to be successful regardless and you just wasted $200k.

>>84955110
It's not.

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>>84953872

>>84955159
but they want you to believe/think so

>>84955192
but in real life, you don't need CalArts.

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Very good.

>>84955214
plus most if not all companies see that as having an advantage, i.e. regular show

What about SCAD?

>>84953872
Kinda stale, isn't it.

>>84955399
won't get you as much merit as Cal, despite being slightly cheaper

>>84953872
The same as any other expensive artschool: cronyism poorly disguised as talent

>>84954131
then why the fuck do people go there thats insane

>>84953872
face memes aside its just not as good as it used to be

cuck cuck cuck cuck cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck *raises spork*

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>>84955686
Reminder.

>>84953872
I seriously don't care.

I enjoy the state of cartoons now because they're creative and at least they require some sort of talent. I remember a few years ago during the dark age, this is what we wanted.

The only thing I hate is how they shortened the run time to 15 minutes.

>>84955735
Upvoted greenthumb reblogged +like

>>84955582
cause it has the greatest recognition and merit above them all

>>84955823
I'm sure that Blue Jacket Lupin III is not enough to salvage the industry.

>>84955855
It's not, but all you can ask for is creativity and inspiration. Am I the only one who remember a time where each network was filled with shitty canadian cartoons and teenage reality shows? Like, that was god awful right?

We should be glad they got back to basics some of the cartoons on now are seriously entertaining.

>>84955877
More like high school upskirt panty shot fest and 22+ minute ads.

In short we need another Mighty Mouse The New Adventures, then we can out their ranks a little.

>>84955399
>
>Don't need a portfolio to get in
>Huge drug problem on campus

>>84955802
honestly i like the calarts face
shame i cant say the same about the school itself

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>>84953872
It's shit, mang

Would love to go. But it's super expensive.

>>84955399
Fuck them.

I've seen so many graduates come out jobless who were super talented and even top of their class.

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Alright, Pitch your character using this Beanface.

I have a friend who goes there. It seems really over expensive. Also there's a surprising amount of Asian kids.

Too expensive but probably something to try to get into if art is literally your life.

I know two people who go there. One is a pretty outstanding actor and a great person despite being a hardcore lib and the other is a rich, rude shitstain who needs to tell everyone that she goes to CalArts if you meet her.

its greatest crime is its popularity. you cant blame them for the copycats.

Honestly, it benefits its graduates more than most art schools by focusing on networking, conforming to trends, etc.

What's your opinion on Sheridan?

>>84953872
> le ebbin bean face maymay xd xd xd I was born in the wrong generation fucking chads stealing my middle school girlfriend


Kill yourselves, you are everything wrong with /co/.

>>84960764
p ok, and canada itself seems to get more and more outsourced animation work.

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>>84955802

>Hanna Shitbera used as a positive example multiple times

Has it REALLY gotten that bad?

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>>84959701
Billy The Big Butt Cartoonist? I don't know, you decide. Tried to draw his "trademark" fanny pack for his rump.

>>84960764
better then calarts. also, john k went there.

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>>84671575

>>84960813
hey, buddy. when was the last time you unironically saw someone using "xd". bonus points if it was on 4chan or reddit.

>>84955802
First of all, Gumball and Steven's creators did not go to CalArts

>>84953872
I would love to go there, but it seems rather expensive for a scholarship

>>84961151
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/08/hb-i-like.html

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He's A Big Boy.

>>84961151
>HB
>shit
>anime face
Just learn to draw, faggot. Oh yeah, and quit anime.

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>>84955802

>>84961732
Finally, someone get sit

>>84961757
*gets it

>>84961791
you can delete posts you know

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>>84961732
>hanna barbera bait.

>>84959925
Are you from the Midwest? Every uni in California has a high Asian population, no surprises.

>>84961847
ren and stimpy took a lot of influence from hanna barbera.
also, who are you quoting?

>>84962150
and all anime looks the same, what's even your point?

>>84962010
Not him, but I wish I lived in California instead of the midwest
At least you have the good minorities instead of thousands of spics and niggers.

>>84961813
You can delete your own life you know

>>84961582
BEAN?

>>84961732
is this the most unbiased "Then, Now" chart on /co/?

I live in Santa Clarita, and every time I get cut off it's by someone with a Calarts sticker. They're the fucking worst.

I go to their music programs sometimes and more than half of them are shit. Every classroom also reeks of weed.

Envy and hate because I'll never get in.

Like what >>84955994 said, the no portfolio needed to get accepted is more of an issue then ever. It creates a false sense of bravado that you think you're as good as all of the other talented people, when in reality you're far from it. Them when the foundation classes come in and you realize everyone in your class have been drawing their whole life, while you don't have that same experience. I've seen people leave their dorms in the 5th-6th week of the 10 week quarters. It's depressing.

>>84957092
It's a mixed bag. Other people I know have worked on Roosterteeth's Camp Camp, recently got picked up for Nickelodeon, Adultswim, etc., while others haven't gotten picked up or are still waiting for a response back from the company their applying too. It can range from nice people who have been at the grindstone for a while that get picked up, or the no talented ones that get tricked by B+s into thinking their good or egotistical maniacs who think their the shit that don't get picked up.

And this is coming from someone who's doing a 5th year at SCAD. It was my dream college in highschool, until after I realized that I was way more unprepared then I thought.

>>84955994
>>84964787
I misread big drug problem as big dropout problem, my bad.

Wish I could find those said drugs.

Unfavorable.

For 50 years it's been an institution for artists to prioritize imitating the designs of their figureheads more than learning from their methods.

Post-modernists and Sylvain Chomet wannabes.

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The whole 'CALARTS RUINED ANIMATION FOREVER' deal is definitely exaggerated, but It's definitely in a slump, along with a lot of similar art unis.

From what I've experienced and heard, there's not enough people at a lot of those institutions who actually know their shit about traditional art and its techniques, which means few or none of the students are being taught said techniques which further fucks shit up, and most people who attend these places who have such knowledge typically learn it from outside sources. More and more portfolios are consisting of naked selfies and piles of clutter presented as neocolonial-demifeminist political messages or whatever. And teachers can't do much about this but praise them for it because if they don't then the students might realise they're not learning shit for the $40k tuition they're putting in.

>>84953872
First post or something?

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All the leav- ALL THE LEAVES ARE BROWN!!!

and the sky i- AND THE SKY IS GRAAAAAY!!!

I've- I BEEN FOR A WAAAALK!!!

On a winters day... ON A WINTER'S DAY!

CALIFORNIA DREAMING!!!

>>84953872
Something I am told at my college is that university is made by it's students. CalArts seems to have forgotten that fact; they got some students a while ago that made it big in the industry and the school board shoved their heads too far up their own asses.

>>84963068
This is actually the chart biased towards modern cartoons

>>84955157
>implying

Connections are fucking important, and the school gives you tons of them.

>>84968720

but shit like Dexter's Laboratory and Powerpuff girls also had shit art back then, and even before that, late 80's cartoons where plagued with animation errors and limited animation.

Compared to Anime, Cartoons have had shit character design for the past 3 decades!

>>84968962

WERE*

>>84953872
You already know the answer if you know their name. /thread

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> Western animation stuck with Calarts and generic 3d
> Meanwhile in glorious Japan, they use animation to tackle the hard issues while keeping it beautifully animated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_UAe9gFzI

Why is /co/ so cucked by /a/?

>>84954279
>>84961732
It could only be better if it was literally the best of both

>>84969527 (You)
here you go

>>84964787
I went there for storyboarding when I was in the Sequential Dept. Hung out with all the animation people since they were really cool and the seqa people were incredibly awkward and cliquey.

Worked on a lot of student films there and made friends with the same guys who are working for RT, Nick, etc. Even some of them came to me for advice but they get picked up for shows while I've still been trying since I graduated two years ago.

It's annoying since I speak to a lot of industry people and worked on a few pilots but never went anywhere or been given a test outside of Floyd County and Bento Box.

Sorry for ranting. Just wish I could been given an opportunity to be given a chance like those guys did since I worked so hard to get this far.

>>84969527
Well, probably because outer glorious nipping is basically a group of one person who know exactly what they like and perfected it. While America is full of shit cultures that hate eachother. So we don't like or support anything.

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>>84968962
>Compared to Anime
Oh I see where you are coming from

>>84953872
My dream college and i want to kill myself if i cant get in

>>84969841
Faggot. If you don't get accepted at first, try harder on your portfolio and apply again.

>>84969753
Only thing I don't regret was going there for grad school. Got lucky enough to have my loans all paid off now. But still made it's gotten me nowhere.

Plus the career advisors are worthless. All they do is look over our resume and CV's.

>>84954095
that's not really why you go to art school
you go to art school for connections
Calarts is the number 1 source to get the best sources of nepotism in the industry

It's fucking expensive.

>>84954040

> I don't really know how you can justify that price.

probably because unlike every other art school it actually means you will get a decent job

>>84970373
this