>Other heroes have tragic origins >Nightwing lost his parents

>>84934366
He's mentally ill and never received proper therapy.

>>84934366
Because he's insane.

holy shit those panels are intense. As a guy who doesn't read much comics, where are they from?

Also because >>84934382 >>84934413

he's just a bitch

>>84934366
He's mentally fucked up and uses his parents' death as an excuse to live out his violent fantasies.

>>84934366
Isn't there a page that shows lil' Bruce saying "I have no one" and then Alfred just lets him leave but when lil' Dick said it Alfred immediately tried to comfort him?

>>84934366
>cut into pieces and placed inside his fridge

Nah, she just got turned into a pretzel. Major Force is nothing if not imaginative so he stuck a fake version of his mom in the oven too.

>Magneto
>over it

uhhhhhhhhhhhh

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>>84934366
> Spider-Man got over losing Gwen Stacy
Ha.

Ahahaha.

HAHAHA, AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OHOHOHOHO! HAAHAAHAAHAA!

>>84934366
he watched both his parents get shot by a criminal , grew up with wealth but only a butler as a friend , in shitty city soaked in crime. feeling morally obligated to fight crime with his disposable income and fear tactics.

dunno , alot on his shoulders to bear

>>84934491
He would have if not for coming back to life to cuck him or become a super villain or to die again

>>84934366
>They all got over it like normal human beings.
Well, Peter Parker still dresses as Spider-man all nights to fight crime.
He is just like Batman, except when he sees the uncle Ben again are just heart warming moments.

Well it took some time but he got over it eventually and was playing hero with the X-Men last time I checked.

>>84934366
He's a full grown man with the mind of a child chasing an unobtainable goal: to eradicate all evil in the world.

He's basically fucked for life

>>84934366
>Magneto getting over anything
Ha.

>>84934366
Because he's an angsty faggot who believes he's the one special snowflake that had something really bad happen to him.

>>84934366

1. Batman did everything in his power to make sure Nightwing didn't end up like himself.
2. Magneto became a villain. He's also old as fuck and killed plenty of Nazis.
3. Spider-Man was a lot older when he lost his uncle, and he wasn't his only family. Batman has lost multiple girlfriends as well.
4. Kyle Rayner's "girlfriends" are just character development devices.

Bruce had no friends, was young and very sheltered, and incredibly close to his parents (Martha in particular). He also watched them get shot and bleed to death right in front of his face.

>>84934366
>Spiderman lost his uncle and girlfriend
Literally every woman he meets wants his dick at least a little bit and is currently the owner of his own company, I'd call that a fair trade.

Also he sold his marriage and unborn child to not-Satan for his old as shit aunt so he is clearly not capable of handling the death of a loved one.

>>84934366
Because he doesn't have any powers and just embezzles money to play dress up and fight crime instead of using that money to cause some sort of social reform and better Gotham city

>>84934366
>Magneto's parents were Jewed by the Nazis
And the guy spent the rest of the century killing people.

>>84934696
>incredibly close to his parents (Martha in particular).
Oedipus complex?

>>84934366
trauma is a bitch

magneto is also strongly traumatized by the holocaust

>>84934676
This :^)

>>84934729
MAKE GOTHAM GREAT AGAIN

>>84934452
Yeah from the sequel to long Halloween

>>84934696
>Kyle Rayner's "girlfriends" are just character development devices.

You make it sound like he goes through tons of them. He's had 4. The only one you could construe as a character development device is Alex because she died in less than 5 issues.

>>84934853
what was it called so I can download and jerk off to it.

>>84934764
This and also
>Spiderman lost his uncle and girlfriend
and he defined his entire fucking crimefighting career by the death of his uncle and the hard lesson it taught him.

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Because he's a stubborn faggot who pushes everyone away who could help him mentally and emotionally. Bottom line there's no helping someone who doesn't want to be helped.

>>84935064
What a fag.

Let's face it, Batman has serious PTSD and various mental disabilities and a personality that always gets him into psychological troubles
Although the batfam is basically a camp for troubled kids but Bruce is the worst one
And that shouldn't be something to be ashamed of

He literally dresses up as a bat to fight crime because him mom isn't around to bring him chicken tendies.

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>>84935205
>yfw batman only fights crime to get himself good boy points for when he sees his mom again in the afterlife

>>84935311
He makes Alfred organize his piss jugs by date.

>>84934366
>Spiderman
Fuck off casual
>literally had his girlfriend cut into tiny pieces
Casual piece of shit

>>84934366
He's a celebrity. They're batshit insane enough as it is. Toss in watching your parents get murdered in front of you and you get Batman.

>>84934366
>>Magneto's parents were Jewed by the Nazis
Wasn't magneto just as much of an asshole about his mutant superiority as the Nazis where to the Jews

>>84934934
Don't do it Dick was very small that would be wrong

>>84934696
Most of them aren't Bruce's fault though. Most of the deaths around Peter are his fault.

>>84934582
No, he's not like Batman. Peter Parker has superpowers, great superpowers actually, so there's like no chance of him to pretend to live a normal life. It was either start robbing banks or becoming a superhero, and since he's a good kid, he became Spiderman.

Bruce Wayne has all the money in the world and no superpowers. He could be a lawyer, but decided to spend his entire life mourning for his parents and dressing like a bat at night.

>>84935205
>>84935311
Alfred's tendies don't taste as good as mommy's.

>>84934366

Dick Grayson's fucking character arc is that Batman is the one who saves him for going crazy like Bruce.

>>84934452
:'(

>>84936612
>so there's like no chance of him to pretend to live a normal life
His powers don't really stop him from having a relatively normal life is he wanted to, is not like he has the obligation of using his powers.

>>84936794
but muh great responsibility

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>>84936649
>Alfred's cooking not being the best out of anyones

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>>84934366
He actually cared about his parents. You wouldn't understand because you hate your parents.

>>84936612
The difference really is that Spidey accepts his abilities as a calling and his loss as a reminder what he stands for.
Batman sees his loss as a calling and a reminder of what he stands against, with little in the way of an ideal he strives towards. Peter is defined by his ambition for good, Bruce by his hatred for evil.
That's why the spider walks in the light, and the bat roams the night.

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>>84936867

>>84936649
As if Alfred wasn't the one that really cooked the chicken tenders the whole time.

>>84936828
>muh great responsibility
>muh parents

Same thing bruh.

>>84936958
That's what makes it s tragic, Bruce doesn't know and the taste is all in his head.

>>84936948
alfred not having 10/10 cooking is ooc

>>84934696
>Kyle Rayner's "girlfriends" are just character development devices.
Unlike Batman's parents?

>>84937000
Maybe Alfred started purposely cooking them worse so Bruce would have happy memories of momma's chicken tendies.

>>84934366
No, they didn't. And you know nothing about comics.

>>84937056
That's easy. All he had to do was stop cumming on them.

>>84936727
So, wait, Batman coming to be is all Alfred's fault?

batman being a wimpering puss is kind of a new take on him?

I think he's just a legitimately good person, who didn't receive proper supervision and guidance and thus went a little crazy

the fact that no one can beat him completes the cycle, he's never going to stop being the Bat

>>84935064
What? How does remembering a tragic memory interfere with your ability to use will? Is there a grief lantern corps that Batman can lead?

>>84937136
Yes. Alfred wants the Wayne fortune and figured Bruce would die quicker if he became a bat vigilante.

>>84937194
Well, it's certainly a clever plan.

>>84934657
underappreciated post

>>84935311
>>84936649
>>84937000
>>84937056
This made me so fucking sad

>>84935716
That's what a call a thematic parallel, Billy!

>>84937008
>Unlike Batman's parents?
Well Batman, doesn't regularly gets new parents.

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>>84935716
Yes

>>84937245
The life of a tendie-loving orphan is tragic.

>>84936794
When you can stop crime or villains without even trying it's kinda shitty to just stand and watch. It's like me watching a 5 years old beat a 3 years old when I can just kick him to the other side of the street without effort

>>84937580
Or molest him and scar him for life.

>>84934366
>Magneto
>over it
Uh, Anon... His entire stance on Mutant/Human relations depends entirely on his constant reminder that humans are capable of what the Nazis did to the Jews. He's not over it and never will be.

>>84937686
Maybe he just needs to take his Metamucil.

>>84937194
>>84937228
Not for lack of trying.

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>>84937768
Yeah, seriously.

The randomness of it is a factor as well I think. Spider-Man knows exactly why Uncle Ben died, and it was his own fault. Dick's parents died to an elaborate sabotage for mob purposes. Not a huge conspiracy, but still a concrete reasoned killing for a purpose. Joe Chill on the other hand is the epitome of a random element taking out two good people who would never expect to die to a mugger in a back alley. It's almost like the king and queen dying getting murdered by some highwayman who was after some jewerly. The emptiness of the act juxtaposed with the importance of the death highlights to Bruce how vicious and unforgiving the world is. His parents didn't just die, they died for no reason; their deaths had no purpose. So he gave them a purpose. That purpose is Batman.

I figure at least by the time Dick becomes Nightwing, when Bruce has a whole network of allies around him, that he mostly has. He visits Crime Alley every year, but I think he realizes that Batman has become more than just a way of getting vengeance, and that the good he does and can do now is a end into itself.

>>84937368
What happens next?

>>84937833
Now that we know there's been multiple Jokers, this makes even more sense.

I've always thought that if Bruce Wayne were an inner city orphan whose parents were gunned down on the street, he'd probably grow up in a shitty environment, turn to crime, and eventually get his ass kicked by Batman.

>>84936727
stahp it, that's sad

>>84937939
I'd like to believe that since a criminal with a gun just looking for some quick money was what took his parents away, that he would still develop that hatred for crime. He'd have a tougher time of it, without the luxury of travelling around learning from the masters, but his physical potential and mental ability would be the same. He's be a much more street level hero, like Daredevil.

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>How does remembering a tragic memory interfere with your ability to use will?

That's not what's going on. Hal is trying to make Batman use his willpower to overcome his parents murder like a Green Lantern but Batman isn't ready to get over it yet.

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>>84937179
>How does remembering a tragic memory interfere with your ability to use will?
Literally the page beforehand.

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Any Batman runs that acknowledge/deal with him being mentally ill?

>>84934553
Jackal get off the internet and stop making clones of Gwen, it's weird and creepy. I'm pretty sure they all try to commit suicide now.

>>84937279
Except as another anon mentioned, Kyle only had ONE girlfriend who got fridged, which got wildly funny at how stupid it was, and so DC runs the joke into the ground even though it was the ONLY girlfriend he had that was literally put into a fridge.

>>84937923
Magneto kills him.

>>84939654
Fuck off Hal, you're the reason we had to sit through Emerald Twilight.

>>84935205
You joke, but I legitimately think Bruce has aspergers

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Lol what the fuck Brian Azzarello?

>>84937580
You don't have to be a full time super hero to stop a crime happening in front of you.

>>84934366
>Dick had Bruce to help him where Bruce himself didn't receive help and had Bruce to understand his position
>Magneto is not a normal human being
>Peter was already mid teens when Ben dies and had his Aunt who was going through the same thing to help him and understand
>I don't know fuck about Kyle

>>84934366
people deal with grief in different ways.

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>>84934366
>They all got over it like normal human beings.

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>>84939831
Finally!

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>>84934366
Because Al fucked up.

>>84941236
What a drama queen, take your medicine grampa.

>>84941236
Why do you need to be a baby to kill Hitler?

>>84941429
hypothetically speaking, if Alfred did say this to Bruce and Bruce actually moved on from his parents death and didn't become batman how different would shit be? I feel like half the crazy people in gotham wouldn't even exist

The real answer OP is because the fans don't want him to, and some of those fans eventually become writers who tell stories that reinforce the idea they were raised on for the next generation of fans, and so on.

>>84941617
Babies were his only weakness. The only living beings allowed near him without being frisked, so that he could kiss them for the publicity.

>>84934366
>Spider-man
>over Uncle Ben
are we reading different Spider-man comics?

>>84941640
Depends if Bruce never becomes Batman.
There are worlds where he still becomes Batman regardless of his parent's deaths.....though I think in one of the worlds where that happens he literally inspired himself.
At the very least he'd be a more emotionally healthy Batman.

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Dead parents are just kind of implied these days.

>>84941236
Dude calm down it was just a prank lol

>>84934676
>You think cause your mommy and your daddy got shot, you know about the ugly side of life, but you don't.
Based Falcone.

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>>84936867
I heard his waffles were kinda bad.

>>84939970
He doesn't, he just locks him in a bunker.

>>84934366
I feel like Batman's more mentally stable than Magneto.

>>84936612
>It was either start robbing banks or becoming a superhero
I can't believe you actually think this

Only hack writers harp on the parent thing. It's easy drama and it's easier to shoehorn Batman into that hole rather than have him get over it

That's how you can tell a hack writer, if they imply that Batman still isn't over that shit or that his parents being dead are the only reason he fights crime. After the first year, he's over it and fights crime because he can, he's capable, and he's been inspired by other heroes

>>84943173
Literally in his origin Spider-Man considers robbing banks first

And I'm not even a Spider-Man fan

>>84934366
BAD
WRITING

Same reason why Aquaman can't escape "he only talks to fish", that's what got embedded into his pop culture lore. There's a point where you become so popular that you can't escape the basic facts about your character.

>>84934366
>Miles Morales got blackmailed by his uncle Snoop and then accidentally killed him.
>Venom killed his mother in front of him.
>His father blamed him for those deaths and abandoned him after learning that he was Spider-Man.
>His universe died.
>Also he's black.
>Bendis won't ever stop writing his comics.

Top that

>>84937927
So what's the deal with that multiple Jokers canon in the new comics? How does that work? Do all of them have the same origin?

>>84943693
and then he got everything back and we don't even know if he remembers the old universe

except I don't know about Uncle Snoop and he's still got the Bendis thing. And the black thing

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>>84934429
Superman/Batman #56 Super/Bat, but the story begins with #53.

Intentionally dense people like OP are also ignoring the fact, most likely because they didn't even read the thing, that by that point Bruce had been on some magical freaky friday thing that gave him kryptonian powers at the cost of making him even more emotionally unstable, unbeknownst to him, which caused him to come to conflict with people close to him.

He had literally been flying around the world nonstop policing all crime he could hear without rest. Regardless of his now superhuman stamina he had become mentally worn out.

So despite the powers he is at his lowest point here. It's a bit like suddenly getting all the power you need to now be able to do the one thing you failed to and trying to make up for it all in a single sleepless week and then you're suddenly reminded just at the end you still failed and never can fix whatever it is.

>>84943693
>>Bendis won't ever stop writing his comics.
A fate worse than death.

>>84943891
A fate? Worse than death?

>>84934366
Gets batman.
Gets powers.
Gets powets.
Gets powers.
Just imagine that you only have a butler and ton of money but never a father figure. Just a stupid old men and all the money. I would go crazy too.

>>84943693
Bendis won't ever stop writing his comics?

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The Narrative Force. I don't even mean that in a sarcastic way. The energy that has control over time and space in the universe that causes the sliding timeline and the sisyphean nature of the heroes' stories.

Batman can't get over it because the Narrative Force is holding him in place making him fight the same battles with the same foes over and over again.

>>84943989
His comics? The ones he writes for Marvel?

>>84936948
This is some good subtle back and forth.
Bruce indulges memories of his younger, more innocent, but less well behaved, self to Alfred. Alfred takes it in stride with a hint of recollected frustration, but then he gets in a quick jab by calling Bruce childish through suggesting he buy a kid's meal.
It's all in good fun though.

Batman did get over his parents' death. It's kind of hacky to show him otherwise.

>>84946984
Did Alfred give him a fleshlight which was replicated from a mold of his mother's vagina?

>>84944250
Learn a new tune already, Grant.

>>84947029
Yes

>>84947551
How much technology and effort went into the Martha project?

>>84936612
>Peter Parker
>Good Kid
He is only fighting crime because he was a fucking selfish retard that got his Uncle killed. If Ben didn't die he would be still exploiting his powers for money.

>>84937368

>those eyes

Doushio red skull-san

>>84935064
>>84937179

Geoff Johns, he also introduced the "very special kind of will" bullshit.

>>84934366
>Magneto
>got over it

>>84934366
>They all got over it like normal human beings. So why can't Batman?
Batman did get over it.

It's a little different when you see your parents alive, however.

It's a matter of what you're "over" coming back to get you.

Superman dealt with the same issues. He actually went back in time so he could visit his father when he died, and when Krypton was reborn he couldn't resist going there and doing what he could to be a good Kryptonian.

>>84947927

That should have been there forever. If everyone gets rings all the time it's fucking lame. There's also the fact that Batman lets fear rule his life.

Why doesn't he just make Alfred puppeteer their corpses and read him a bedtime story. And have Alfred imitate their voices?

>>84948855
>There's also the fact that Batman lets fear rule his life.

You had never read a batman comic then


>That should have been there forever. If everyone gets rings all the time it's fucking lame.

No, that rule was to make Hal a very special boy.
fuck you. A ring should be like a gennie's lamp, as always was. How much will you have should determinate what you can do and how strong your constructions are.

>>84948980
They had to give some reason hal was different. It doesn't make sence if the only requirement is great willpower nearly evrey hero has great willpower they throw that character trait around like candy.

>>84934366
nightwing had bruce be his father for him so i'm sure that helped
Magneto isn't over it cause his whole deal is kiling people over what happened to him
spidey is still fucked up over that shit
idk shit about kyle though