Who here #teamtony

>>84883322
>the Xmen being any part of this
Fucking why? They got like 99 other problems

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Fuck you carol you cunt

I fucking hate Bendis so damn much

>>84883366
oh look it's the Ooga Chaka Squad

>>84883366
Of fucking course

>>84883366
Who's the chick in blue? Is that what Kitty Pryde is wearing these days?

>>84883322
So captain hydra is on tony's side and he also has a flying evil optimus prime

>>84883419
That is indeed Kitty. And it's because Bendis Doesn't know what to do with her.

>>84883322
>>84883366
>not switching your phone's view because they're spreads

>>84883366
I know I haven't followed anything even remotely related to these two images. But can't Whor wipe with everyone she just called in for backup?

>>84883322
>young iceman on carols side
>grown iceman on tonys
What???

>>84883366
BINGO!

>>84883451
something something gay?

>>84883440

save Angela and Drax

>>84883322
Literally all the good chapters with the exception of blank panther are on tonys team

>>84883468
>captain hydra
>kate bishop
>miles
>O5
>WHOR
>good
wew

>>84883468
Carol has Monica too

>>84883440
Drax and Ben are capable of going toe to toe with her in melee, Kitty Pryde is OP as hell with her black vortex powerup. Angela, the redhead, is a powerful Asgardian warrior in her own right

Have they even properly explained why the dumb infighting is happening this time?

Is the explanation just "$$$" or "we're out of ideas"?

>>84883451
you got that backwords

>>84883502
>Is the explanation just "$$$"
Bingo.

>>84883482
I said all the good characters. Not every charters on toys side is good
>>84883483
O yea. Didn't see her

>>84883502
Carol wants to use an inhuman to stop bad things before they happen
Tony is profiling Carol saying she will go full minority report.

>>84883502
They have, but it boils down to both leaders being extremist dipshits.

>>84883508
Grown iceman doesn't wear any clothes when he's in ice form

>>84883322
Has TeamCarol actually done anything bad yet?

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>>84883407
I'm surprised this didn't happen when they dropped in

>>84883502
Both

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>>84883524
Well it turns out there's only a 10 percent chance of the visons being true

>>84883534
he does now. that red outfit. besides the rest of the all new team is with tony and the rest of extraordinary team is on carol's side

>>84883540
no

>>84883534
Grown Iceman wears that swimming suit.

>>84883489
Does Kitty still have that? Gamora said the power up goes away after you use it long enough.
Wouldn't be surprised if Kitty got to keep it, though. She was a big enough Mary Sue to not turn evil after using it.

>>84883551
If there is a 1% chance that something bad might happen you should take it as 100%

>>84883322
>Carol's side is out powered
I don't see it.

>>84883551
>Only a 10 percent chance
Then I guess the biggest string of coincidence happened just that week. That or very tiny inconsequential differences happen in the visions to make them different.
>>84883570
Calm down, Batman.

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>>84883540
She's being a bitch. She's doesn't even have any proof

>>84883551
Did they call an Illuminati meeting for this?

>>84883322
What did Carol do now?

can someone please storytime the whole issue rather than posting it piecemeal

The whole premise is bullshit. Why does Marvel recycle so many ideas

>>84883322
>Extraordinary X-men on Ulysses' side
>Uncanny and All New X-men against

Wow Extraordinary really are the fucking worst

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Daily reminder that you should be on Based Berto's team and not the side of Headless Chickens.

>>84883602
hasn't come out in win-o yet and OP doing it would take a long ass time, would have black bars, and shit quality because cell phones.

>>84883570
>>84883576
Diden't Eisenhower say that first?

>>84883602
With the condition that no more fucking black bars even on spreads.

>>84883570
Didn't an innocent Kryptonian dude die off that kinda math?

>>84883322
>>84883366
Wait are you telling me the war fighting actually starts with the fifth issue? (sixth, if you count #0)

>>84883551
>Inhumans get two seats on the Illuminati

>>84883634
>Kryptonian
>Innocent
The only good Xeno is a death Xeno

It's not rape if it's a xeno

>>84883366
What the fuck can any of them do against Strange?
And why would someone like Peter Quill support such fascist policies?

>>84883647
Guardians are popular.

>>84883634
>killed zod
>innocent
pick 1

>>84883642
I count three.

>>84883642
>Hank "house mugga" McCoy
I think you mean three

>>84883605
events make money

it's not that marvel hates good stories, they just do all these cashgrabs so that when the occasion comes they can afford to keep a good story afloat till its over despite falling below the cancellation line. like with King's vision.

they openly said CWII was 'months in the making', when most events have over a year of planning, and just done as a marketing tie in to the CA:CW movie

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>>84883629
I bought it in the comixology app. Also Hawkeyes innocent and shulks angry

>>84883647
Bendis is writing both books. Nobody can tell him otherwise.

I think we've got a bingo here. Anybody's got the board?

>>84883647
They don't need to do anything against Stange. Magik can just beat him like she did in AvX

>>84883642
Well somebody had to fill Namor's seat.

>>84883684
Okay, what?

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>>84883684

>>84883684
>I bought it in the comixology app.
Do you have a PC? Is it far from you?

Then if you're home transfer those screenshots to your PC, remove the black bars, and done.

>>84883684
Then why is he TAKING BACK JUSTICE? Butthurt because he walked?

>>84883709
Goddammit Bendis.

>>84883668
But no one is buying this shit. So whats the point? Im not against a CW2 but a different premise would be nice. Hell CW could have been the start of getting rid of the stupid hate about mutants. Is no one aknowledging the actually genocide happening.

>>84883684
Okay. So a murderer walks free and a high school kid who was going to fry his schools electricity gets arrested. Nice carol. Nice

>>84883709
Ctrl+X, Ctrl+V. Kino art.

>>84883709
I fucking hate what they're about to do to her character.

>>84883684
>he was actully put on trial

>>84883709
Bendis you better not fucking do this I swear

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>>84883577
Is it common in the Marvelverse for people to get stressed and turn into purple gas?

I say people but what I really mean is women. I know nothing about women.

>>84883749
Did Maria Hill ever get her trial?

>>84883732
It's so fucking baffling. Clint actually committed murder, you know a fucking crime, and the high school kid hadn't even done anything yet, yet Clint walks and the kid's in jail I think.

>>84883576
>Then I guess the biggest string of coincidence happened just that week.
You do know when it comes to raw probability it is entirely possible for say a coin flip scenario to get nothing but heads for the rest of a year.
You have to recognize once something falls into the realm of possibility then yeah it can happen, by virtue of the very definition of the word, but that doesn't mean it will and all the things working with probability to begin with entails. This isn't a matter of perception or belief, it's about the numbers.

Tony has done the numbers, Tony's done his research and homework. This is literally his field of expertise.
You don't play that dice roll game and then roll your eyes when a smarter player explains why a willfully ignorant view of thing as luck or proficiency or fate or whatever lowbrow shit Carol's two cell nervous system runs on and assumes is happening.

>>84883760
No nightcrawler teleproted her out

>>84883772
except it's come up heads every time. way more than 10%

>>84883684
Now ain't this just about an anti-Hulk arrow tipped bitch?

>>84883794
>except it's come up heads every time
That we have seen

>>84883772
>Tony has done the numbers, Tony's done his research and homework. This is literally his field of expertise.
Based on what though? If all the information he has on the accuracy of the predictions is their outcome and they've come up heads every time so far.

>>84883709
How the fuck does that stupid Thanos-busting missile cause that?

>>84883794
Because they are activly pursuring the would be action. This always fucking happens in this stories. The bad thing happened because they knew about it.

>>84883322
It's that Forgetmenot between Carol and Magik?

>>84883772
I thought Tony field of expertise was being a piece of shit?

>>84883709
Whats happening?

>>84883758
>>84883740
Maybe I'm retarded but what are they about to do to her character?

>>84883829
Probably Forge

>>84883829
Forge.

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>>84883684
justice was served

>>84883848
I think they're about to have Shulkie kill Clint in a rage induced episode.

>>84883684
He was proven innocent with his "AVENGERS DON'T KILL" defense

>>84883848
She's gonna go rage monster Hulk
He'll probably throw in some stupid message like
>by killing Banner you fulfilled the vision of a Hulk destroying lots of stuff, Carol, you are Hitler now

>>84883709
She Hulk is strangly hot on this page
>>84883737
First of all fuck off /tv/

Second of all you can see that the eyes and eyebrowns changes between the panels

>>84883867
That's not gonna happen. He's the star of the new Occupy Avengers line in Octoberish.

>>84883867
Then they can replace him with an ambiguously brown woman.

>>84883767
Not pubublicy, that's like the director of the CIA getting a public trial.

>>84883880
Is there any more information about this cause that occupy shit a was like 5 years ago. He do they justify being this late to the party?

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>>84883730
>no one is buying this shit.
first few issues and tie-ins sold like hotcakes
>Is no one aknowledging the actually genocide happening.
protesting the genocide of your race is illegal and gets the avengers trying to arrest you.

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I fuckin hate marvel citizens.

>>84883896
Kate Bishop already exists dumbass.

>>84883905
No idea. I just saw him on the front of the cover preview in the free preview book I got with some comics I bought.

So how in the fuck are they gonna try to redeem Carol after this? Or are we gonna pull a Shillery with this one?

>>84883575
Tony's side has Miles, he can just zap everyone and win.

>>84883924
Skrull brain tumor makes her loose her memory.
Everyone else just goes with it and never brings it up again.

Wait, why are the Guardians siding with Carol? Haven't they been on Tony's side in all the promos?

Or is this all

>hurr bait and switch~!!@!!!11

>>84883909
I meant as a reasonable excuse for an event. Its pretty stupid.

>>84883709
Everyone's mad and wants to see less, but I honestly haven't been this aroused in days.

>>84883968
I'm not gonna lie, I despise everything about this event, but the way it's selling, they're doing SOMETHING right.

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>>84883924
the people calling the shots don't need to be redeemed

>>84883983
Its not selling all that well compared to past events if the numbers i saw were right. The first issue sure but it dropped.

>>84883905
It's about him seeking personal redemption and doing A-Team style jobs with a team of heroes who have no powers.

>>84883965
Maybe Bendis forgot, I wouldn't be surprised if he did

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>>84883873
>She Hulk is strangly hot on this page
The imposing figure, the long unkempt hair, the guttural growl.
Oh lawdy, the people I'd kill for that support bar to be my thigh. I probably wouldn't be able to walk for a week, but can you imagine the mix of sheer fear and arousal in that moment.

You'd never get a high that strong in your life.

>>84884063

>Wait, why are we, a gang of morally ambiguous borderline criminals siding with the thoughtcrimes team?
>BLAM! MURDERED YOU!
>Well said, Rocket.

Team IM will lose and Tony will get arrested. That is why Riri and Doom.

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>>84883684

Oh, God... This is supposed to reflect that Trayyon thing, right?

>>84883489
I must be seriously behind.
How can someone who went toe to toe with Odin have any trouble with Ben?

>>84884157
Ben has Jew power while Odin is toxic patriarch.

>>84884157
The same way she had trouble with the Silver fucking Samurai one issue later. Inconsistent writing.

>>84884164
Oh, she also got smacked around by Batroc the Leaper, a normal human.

>>84884146

How many Hulks are there left? Will they riot and destroy a city?

#HulkLivesMatter

>>84884157
her fight with Odin ended the second Odin decided he'd had enough. She absorbed the power of Jupiter's redspot and the resulting attack barely bruised his cheek.

Meanwhile Ben is someone altered by the power cosmic who can fight the Hulk for days on end

>>84884186
CWII began with Doc Samson just walking through the door despite people checking his grave on three seperate occassions since he died to make sure he was still dead

>>84884146
How the hell did you reach that conclusion?

>>84884203
>authority figure shoots unarmed man because they felt their life was in danger, does not go to jail, everyone who knew the victim is pissed as hell

>>84884023
I guess that might be the case. Here's the first two issues of Secret Wars (which came out the same month):

05/15 Secret Wars Ltd #1 - 544,342
05/15 Secret Wars Ltd #2 - 231,560

And Civil War II:

Civil War II 1 $5.99 Marvel 381,737
Civil War II 2 $4.99 Marvel 148,403

>>84884203

An Avenger killed a DinduNottingHulk for something that he thought was going to happen and after a trial he was proven innocent, something that will probably anger a lot of folks.

I hope i'm wrong, but that's where my mind went.

>>84883322
>any version of cyclops
>standing along side Cap and/or Ironman
Kinda feels weird. Has Cykes ever teamed up with these two?

>two iceman
Have they confronted each other about the gay thing?

>>84883489
>Kitty Pryde is OP as hell with her black vortex powerup
And what is said powerup?
>>84884189
Her second fight with Odin ended the second Odin found out that his wife was stabbed to death

>>84884198
>doc didnt come back in a duggan book so we could see the groundskeeper quit

>>84884223
Secret was a higher profile event. They stopped the entire line for it.

>>84884223
See. Marvel needs to stop this 'if we make them angry, well sell' mentality

>>84884198
Hell the last time Doc Green actually dug up his body and injected it with an gamma cure so that even his corpse wouldn't have powers anymore

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>>84884230
Being fucking abstract tier

>>84884157

Jane has the most valuable power in Marvel right now: Having a vagina. She is only trumped by being black, or being black while having a vagina. The only characters that appear in the second page that can best her are Gamora, Kitty and Angela.

>>84884254
>>84884198
Why is it such an important point that Doc Samson stays dead that 3 different series went to confirm that he is dead?

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>>84883551
Sweet fucking christ that hair is HUGE.

>>84884265
Yeah I'm still not clear on what her Black Vortex powers actually were

I mean they're gone now apparently so it doesn't matter but still

>>84883709
Alright Dave, you have the go ahead to draw more muscle girls.

>>84884265
ok but what are her new powers?

>>84884319
>>84884295
iirc she teleported the entire Brood race away.

>>84884247
A big drop off is normal, though, as retailers tend to order more than enough of a first issue and they adjust their orders as the comic goes on. For example, they might order twenty copies of a comic and then when they notice that they only sold five of those twenty comics they adjust their order accordingly which leads to a large drop in sales numbers

>>84884283
Well that last time was just Doc Green being thorough and trying to cure every gamma enhanced being except for himself and Jennifer

He fucked up with Leader, sent Lyra to a hell dimension and completely missed Teen Abomination so he didn't do a very good job

>>84883322
Who here going to fulfill the "you don't even READ comics" faggy meme by not reading this garbage designed to cash in on "muh civil war"

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>>84884295
>>84884319
phasing

>>84883322
I like how Bendis keeps having Carol show up, point at people and shout "YOU'RE UNDER ARREST!"

Especially since she keeps using their full names whenever possible.

>>84884373
Is she phasing the planet but not the Brood so that as it rotates around its star the Brood are being left behind?

>>84884373
>>84884335
So she phased the Brood race out of existence?

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>>84884228
>Have they confronted each other about the gay thing?
They cried, then bonded a little.

>>84884410
I want teen jean to just die already.

This is just abusing the power of suggestion

>>84884410
>What are you thinking?
>I'll just read his mind and tell you in my own words what he's thinking.

Fucks sake, Jean is a horrible person.

>>84883570
Go away, Bruce

>>84884203
Because following the "logic" that this event likes comparing future seeing to racial profiling and I vaguely remember some dialogue that sounded like your average stand your ground rhetoric used in most the black kid shootings. So I could see how one could come to the conclusion it's supposed to resemble that.

>>84883709
I sure hope there's a full body shot without her going full monster.

>>84884433
she's trying to push a Marvel Girl identity by the time of Inhumans vs X-Men to distance herself from Phoenix bad end, but she's probably gonna wind up being Xorna no matter what she does

>>84884289
Sephiroth ain't got shit on Medusa.

>>84883917
>Hulk's ongoing freedom was a conspiracy among the super-powered community
Come to think of it, that's actually true.
Killing Banner was wrong, but he definetly shouldn't be allowed unrestricted freedom.

>>84883322
Fuck tony and fuck carol. Spiderman's the only one sensible enough to just stalk the potential criminal and take them out when they're about to commit the crime instead of either doing nothing or outright taking him in before he's done anything.

>>84883709
Am I the only one who's sad that in this page, she-hulk is the hotter girl

>>84883965
Some of them will switch sides, that's for sure. They're siding with Carol because she's the one who called them first.

>>84884509
Yeah, Tony's stance is dumb, but that doesn't automatically make Carol right.
There's a middle ground between doing nothing and fascism.

>>84884507
The Illuminati and SHIELD were sort of watching over him, but the way Hulk and Bruce's personalities fluctuate and adapt it can be hard to know when he's turning the tables.

>>84884507
Banner couldn't even turn into the Hulk anymore

>>84883366
If anything this would have been the side the old DnA team choose

but still fuck you Carol go die in a fire

>>84884535
Banner still has an extensive criminal record as Banner. Plus, better safe than sorry, Banner has been depowered before.

>>84884535
He could. Yes it completely contradicts everything happening in his actual comic, but Bendis said he could.
Which honestly would've given more weight to this. I mean it'd make Carol's side and Clint especially total dicks but there'd be actual proof these visions aren't all their chalked up to be rather than Stark saying "I KNOW MATH, AND 2-6=THIS IS RACST!"

>>84884530
Exactly, but only Peter seems to realize that for some unknown reason.

>>84883322
Wait, why do Miles, Kamala and Sam quite the Avengers in disgust? Literally everyone on their team is on the same side as them.

>>84884081
Doubt Bendis will plug it as such, but chances are they side with Carol because she preemptively stopped someone like Thanos getting a cosmic cube. That's something I imagine they'd all like to be able to do to spare themselves a future headache.

Ben is probably just backing up whoever Johnny's with, and I really don't give a shit enough about fanboy!Kitty to bother with her reasoning for doing anything or being somewhere outside the writer wanting her to.

>>84884564
>But Bendis said
something completely bullshit

>>84884578
Young kids doing dumb shit, what else is new?

>>84883322
Wait, why the hell is Sam in this fuck? I thought that the Captain say stay the fuck away from this shit

>>84884578
because these so called adults are acting like children

>>84884595
>>84884578
You're still under the delusion Bendis cares about anyone elses comics.

>>84883322
I'm Team "Use Ulysses' intel but don't be a Minority Report facist like Carol".
If we followed Tony, Thanos would have killed everyone at Project Pegasus and stolen some Iso-8.

>>84884530
>>84884574
You guys do realize Tony has not said at any point to just do nothing, his stance has always been for the person doing something to be responsible and reasonable about what they do.
He even wanted to help Ulysses understand his powers to be safer about them, not just use him and dump him back at the Subhuman's ivory tower like a disposable wash cloth.

>>84884613
That's just Team Carol up until THIS VERY ISSUE

>>84883353
Makes sense that the young X-Men would be there, the whole conflict is whether or not the future is fixed, and they certainly don't want to think that it's fixed.

>>84884626
>Tony has not said at any point to just do nothing
Yes, yes he has.
He's butthurt about Carol "trying to change the future". He uses the Thanos mission as an example, claiming she never should have done it in the first place even though fucking Thanos was coming.
He's pretty much said "the future must be allowed to take its natural course".

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>>84884642
Plus this week's issue of Ms. Marvel, where Kamala switches sides

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>>84883366
Why the hell are the Guardians here? They don't have a dog in this fight.

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>>84884695

>>84883917
Has everyone forgotten about Cho?

>>84883917
To be fair, if I were a Marvel citizen I'd be glad to find out the Hulk won't be smashing my city anymore.

>>84883577
So the twist is that the lady will go bad but only because carol drove her to it

>>84884715
Bendis doesn't read other peoples books.

>>84884737
No, because that's not how Ulysses' visions work. He can't cause self-fulfilling prophecies. If he did it would actually prove Tony wrong.

>>84884642
But what did she do in this issue?

>>84883322
>outpowered
Just because the popular kids are on your side doesn't mean your team is more powerful, Tony.

>>84884765
We have to wait for the storytime to find out

>>84884695
>the mirror has a reflection
Truly a da vinci of our time

>>84883322
>>84883366
>caring enough about this to pick sides
What's it like to have such horrible taste?

>>84883322
It doesn't matter

>>84883709
>those muscles

>>84884755
>can you stop his visions coming true?

>>84883709
>came here to be mad.
>then just came

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>>84884410

>>84884812
Yes, yes you can stop them. That's Tony's whole complaint. Therefore he can't cause self-fulfilling prophecies.

>>84884774
Yeah the Ultimates and the X-Men fucking wreck everyone on Stark's side

Blue Marvel takes Jane
Magik takes Doctor Strange
And all of Tony's big guns are gone

>>84883419
SHATTERCAT

>>84884833
Thank you very much

>>84884823
>i'm so fucked up

>>84884837
>Magik takes Doctor Strange
I would be so mad.

>>84884837
Who's Jane?

>>84884774
Yeah, Bendis doesn't seem to realize just how powerful Blue Marvel and Monica are. He had them do nothing in the fight against Thanos.

>>84884879
Jane Foster, the female Thor

>>84884879
Jane Foster. Whor.

>>84883366
Does Star-Lord not use the element gun again?

>>84884837
>Magik takes Doctor Strange
Because it happened in a different shitty event comic?
And to be fair, Tony also has Vision (who Monica could drop like a hot potato) and Luke (I have to assume Sasquatch is in his weight class though)

>>84884837
>>84884887
>implying One Sting Man's venom can't mess with Magik's demonic stuff, Spectrum's energy form and BM's antimatter

>>84884894
>>84884895
Since when did /co/ stop calling her Whor and accepted cancer patient Jane as Thor?

>>84884914
I guess you can only rail against something for so long until you just give up.

>>84884902
Sasquatch is way above Luke's weight class. Luke is Class 50, Sasquatch is Class 100+.
Luke's more durable though.

WHERE IS THE BINGO ?

I WANT MY BINGO!
BINGO
BINGO
BINGO

>>84884289
Her powers are so fucking lame.

>>84883366
>Benjamin Grimm
>Siding with fascists

FUCK YOU BENDIS

>>84884904
After seeing Venom Blast take out Blackheart (after Blackheart single-handedly defeated Thor, Scarlet Witch, Vision and Iron Man off-panel), I'll believe anything.

>>84884955
Jesus, really?
Where was this?

>>84884953
He's self-aware enough these superhero squabbles are always meaningless in the long run, so he might as well stick with his team.

Nah, Bendis is just a hack.

>>84884894
>>84884895
Thor? THE Thor?

After reading this thread I have to assume this whole universe is stupid and nothing in it is worth reading.

>>84884986
The first issue of Miles' current ongoing.

>>84884986
In Miles' solo for ANAD, when he became integrated into 616.
>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2016/07/10/the-wrong-side-spider-man-miles-morales-vs-blackheart/

>>84885007
>>84885011
Oh, Brian.
Do you even remember what it feels like to give a shit?

Carols right, she's just an idiot and isn't doing it well.
I'm with Blue Marvel

>>84884987
Thor Odinson became unworthy (we still don't know why) and Jane picked up his hammer. That was 2 years ago, I take it you've been out of the loop for a while.

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>>84884986

>>84885001
Sorry to hear that. There's still plenty of good Marvel stories, don't let the crap taint the rest.

>>84883322
>>84883366
This is hilarious. The GUARDIANS are being treated like heavy duty backup to even the odds when the Ultimates are already standing right there from the start.

>>84884987
a thor. there's been dozens over the years and universes

>>84885031
Yes Anon, I too am with Al Ewing.

>>84885032
>>84885051

I was Bendisspeaking, anons

>>84885031
Agreed. Use Ulysses to stop threats, find fugitive villains and follow potential perps just like real world governments do.

>>84885050
That would require Bendis knowing what Blue Marvel and Monica's power levels are. Which he clearly doesn't, especially since I don't think he's ever written them before.

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>>84884669
>Yes, yes he has.
By all means post the exact panel and quote.

Every time this discussion comes up there's never any direct evidence of Tony's argument being to allow atrocities to happen, he always asks for them to simply be considerate of how they respond to the belief they know the future for fact. His primary problem has specifically been with Carol's disregard when warned over and over. There's only ever a weak strawman built from intentionally misconstruing his point and ignoring whatever he actually does, meanwhile there are several panels of Carol directly telling Wilson, Brashear and Stark she doesn't care how it works and would repeat it all anyway.

In the first issue of CWII Tony is shown gladly leaving the discussion and Ulysses in the hands of the Inhumans because he didn't care what they did at their own expense so long as they were willing to carry the weight. Only when it costs others and no one answers for it does he get involved.

Tony's actual inquiry without reinterpretation was how they knew Thanos would be there to determine if what he suspected resulted in Rhodey's death was right. After getting confirmation Tony did not say they should not have gone after Thanos at any point, he wanted to know why Rhodey was brought to a mission meant for the Ultimates team. No answer given.

Tony, confirming the visions are probability not prediction, showed up to Bruce's interrogation defenseless with his armor off to have a discussion.
Carol brought SHIELD, the Avengers, the X-Men, the Inhumans and Beast among them hacks Bruce's research and then Maria arrests Bruce on tenuous charges.

Tony's willing to die and answer for what knows, Carol's willing to let others die for what she assumes.

How can anyone defend this?
She is recklessly dismissive in both her approach and her reflection. She not only learns nothing but outright refuses to.

>>84883709
...that's pretty hot.

>>84883322
You know what's wonderful?

Carol is standing next to a person who can travel through time with ease.
>Oh shit guys, I just checked. Bruce really was/wasn't going to Hulk out and kill you soon.

>>84884410
why did they have to retcon him into this?

>>84885082
>making passionate, thought-out arguments
>over a Bendis event comic
Was it really worth the effort?

>>84885119
progressive points

>>84885082
You've put more thought into Tony's actions than Bendis has.

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Why.
God fucking damn it Marvel why are you doing this?

Why are you taking inspiration from fucking twitter and dumblr for your plotlines?

Do you seriously think everything has to be social commentary?

What is next?
Actual Trump villain?
Hillary working with Avengers?
References to #NOTALLMUSLISMS?

>>84885119
Bendis wanted to exit the X-Men by leaving a mark he'd be praised for.
He didn't really get that with Avengers, despite the attempt with bringing Wasp back.

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>>84885082
Here you go
>Iron Man believes that the future has to unfold, and that getting in its way is a road to even greater disaster

>>84885136
>Actual Trump villain?
Already done.
>References to #NOTALLMUSLISMS?
Miss Marvel

>>84885123
Way I see it if the fate of being Bendis'd means we're all going to suffer through this through silence or screams, I might as well choose what I'm screaming.

>>84885136
>Actual Trump villain?
modok of earth 65
>Hillary working with Avengers
mariah hill
>References to #NOTALLMUSLISMS
bendis's uncanny xmen

>>84883684
Did the entire trial take like two hours or what

>>84885163
Are you serious?
They made Trump a villain?
Sorry but I was occupied with moving to other country this past few months so I am out of loop...

>>84885165
Just seems like getting angry at/about the characters instead of Bendis for his shitty writing is a bad place to go.

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>>84885065
Shockingly, that is exactly what Carol's side is doing... in team Carol books. And in team Tony books... >>84884686

It's CW1 all over again.

The whole editorial, scratch it, EVERYONE at Marvel needs to be fired.

DC got it's shit together, Marvel can too.

>>84885183
Yeah, don't murder trials usually take years?

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>>84885192

>>84885216
Jesus, what the fuck.

>>84885207
There are people doing good work at Marvel.
It's just that they're constantly hampered by everyone else there.

>>84885249
Do yourself a favor and never read Spider-Gwen.

>>84885162
The part you left out in that summary goes on to state the reason for Tony's skepticism is over Ulysses' powers and the consequences of how it was mishandled.

>>84885269
But Rhodes' death isn't Ulysses' vision's fault. That's like blaming an informant because he provided intel on where to find a terrorist group and a cop died during the arrest.
That's what I hate most about it.

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>>84885249
like I said earth-65, it's a weird elseworld where daredevil is the kinggpin and harry osborne is an agent of shield

>>84883322
>>You're overpowered
>>Blue Marvel and Monica are on Carol's side

>>84885295
Sure Rhodey knew he was going to fight Thanos and did so of his own accord, just as most any superhero would, but it's still THAT BLONDE DYKE CUNT'S FAULT.

And yes, maybe Clint murdered Bruce on his own while Tony and Carol both rolled up to his door with an army to shake his fuckin' tree, but FUCK YOU CAROL.

>>84885335
Plus Blue Marvel, Monica, and Carol can all charge each other to become absolutely bullshit OP.

>>84885351
So you're saying Carol should have done nothing about Thanos? Because that's what Tony's advocating.

>>84883322
>>84883366
So is the rest of this event just gonna be this final battle now?
And I'm sorry, but those are pathetically small sides. At least in the first Civil War, they included characters who weren't currently in books.

>>84883322
>Tony has TWO Captain Americas and a Cyclops on his team
I mean, he's looking pretty Right here.

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>>84885216
I can't imagine it was as good as Zombo's, though that one was done years ago, before the American liberals began shitting themselves that Trump might actually win this time. So there's not that ever encroaching dread and hasty attempts to poorly lampoon leaking into the depiction.

>>84885375
It's really astonishing that there is no middle ground in this event.

I mean, what should happen is that they should use his visions to look into matters, and prevent them if they seem fishy. If it's civilians, then give them warning and such. If it's supervillains, then why haven't you tackled them by now?
There doesn't need to be a "Don't do it" or "Minority Report". There's such an easy middle ground.

>>But it's racial profiling
That guy stole a fucking tank!!!

>>84885375
Even for text, I was laying on the sarcasm pretty damn thick, man.

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>Tony throws shade at Carol for allowing Rhodey to fight Thanos
>Has kids on his Avengers team

>>84885390
A Fake Cap, a Brainwashed Cap, and Prerightclops.
Wrong.

Can someone properly storytime this? It's now out on torrent.

>>84885428
Sorry, hard to tell sometimes

>>84883545
What a bizarre crossover. Of all the Mangas they could have chosen, I think this one makes the least sense. The Avengers would/did just plow right through them.

>>84885449
link?

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>>84885425
>That guy stole a fucking tank!!!
Dear God that was dumb. It would be a clear-cut case even without Ulysses' vision, which wasn't even made public.

>>84883873
Everyone is strangely hot in this

>>84885478
Find it on demonoid pw

>>84885480
>man steals military equipment
>girl argues that he shouldn't be prosecuted
The fuck?

>>84885480
>If they prosecture this Hijinx guy for something he MIGHT have done with that tank
What if they just prosecuted him FOR STEALING A FUCKING TANK
Why would someone write this?!

>>84885488
>Everyone is strangely hot in this
Minus dem hips Carol and Medusa have had better hair days, and the samish face doesn't really help.

At the very least Carol has managed to find wherever she misplaced her breasts.

>>84885507
She's arguing that she shouldn't be prosecuted for what he could have done with the tank, ignoring the fact that he already did a lot of crap with the tank like wreckless endangerment and destruction of property. Plus, attempted crimes are a thing.

>>84885527
Some writers handle forced tie-ins worse than others.
That's my excuse for it, anyway.

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>>84885567
I want to believe Bendis told each of the writers of a minority hero to play up the profiling angle and something like this panel came up.

It's nice to see the main focus of the profiling angle in Ms. Marvel being applied to the white, Aryan jock side-character (by a white woman no less), when it could've easily been a minority character and made extra retarded.

>>84884509
>Team Spider-Man.

Forever and always. Every time during shitty events like this he seems to be the only person with some sort of intelligence despite Parker Luck.

PROPER STORYTIME: >>84885603

>>84885209
It'd be weeks minimum

I was just a juror on a really minor thing and even that took three days

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>>84883551
what the blistering fuck is this

>>84883794
That's not how it works you moron, you can observe things like coming up with heads on 6 flips in a row, that doesn't change the actual probability.
As you expand the data set (in this case the coin flips amount) analyzed you'll see it approach 50/50, but it's entirely possible to go heads ten, twenty, as many fucking times in a row.

>>84883794
Tony's asking a hypothetical, he's not actually saying the probability is always 10%.

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>>84883322

>Reading Marvel

Hey guys! I heard shit tastes good!

>>84883483
And Blue Marvel. (Which seems wrong to me)

>>84885209
This would take at least a year. I mean, we're talking precog powers added in with all of the pre-crime bullshit and murder angle. Finding a non-bias jury when it comes to superheroes would take a long time enough. Add in these factors and others and no way wasn't there like a minimum of an 18 month timeskip between issue #2 and end of #3.

>>84883322
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO LUKE SITTING THIS ONE OUT?