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>>84843540
>even though he's never gone to a doctor about his own severe mental problems!
Well, if you can't walk do you need a doctor to know you're handicapped?

>>84843809
you do if you're legs are full of puss and need to be drained

>>84843809

no, in fact, the predominate way to assess someone's mental health is simply to have them fill out a form that asks questions along the lines of "how often are you sad or angry" "do you have thoughts of suicide" "do you find difficulty in every day tasks" and so on.

>>84844193
There's a difference between recognizing a mental disorder and writing one.
For instance, if I saw a person on the street I could say "Yea, that's a person." But it doesn't mean I have enough understanding to write their life story.

His "depressed" characters, Ruth especially, are too quick to open up and burden everyone around them. She's not trying to save face in public, and she's not laying in bed trying to ignore Billie. This isn't realistic mental issues, it's tumblr levels of fetishizing depression.
Which is fine, if that's what you're into.
I'm still reading it.

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>>84844464
Mary has no time for any of this bullshit.

>>84844298
I've suffered clinical depression for the last 6 years and I've more or less been open to others who became extremely close to me. They served as my support network for most of that time. I've attempted suicide twice, North times I was saved (hanged myself but someone heard the noise and cut me down, then overdosed but got my stomach pumped). Depression isn't one size fits all, really. Some completely shut down (my best friend for example) whole others are still open (like me).

Willis' problem is shit writing either way.

>>84844464
why the hell does Mary care if someone calls a person in charge?

Is she still hung up on the prayer at the ends of hall meetings?

Is Willis really this stupid?

>>84844575
I totally get opening up to people close to you

Billie and Ruth have known each other for a month and hated each other for at least a few days

and then a few more days should be shaved off because both of them were blacked out drunk

>>84844582
YES

>>84844582
Mary loses her blackmail material if Ruth and Billie are found out. Of course, Ruth being replaced as RA would be a net benefit to Mary anyway but I doubt Willis realizes that.

that's actually kinda accurate from my experience. but anecdotal evidence!

>>84844464

>Mary being calm and logical and maintaining a clear head
>Last panel reminder she's cardboard and evil

willis!

>>84844582
I assume this is supposed to be Mary trying to keep a hold of her leverage over Ruth.
It just comes off more as Mary trying to actually cover for Ruth and Billie.

Also:
>If she an' this Ruth lady--
>this Ruth lady--

Did Walky not actually know who Ruth is?

>>84844628
To be fair I never keep up with this and am far from up to date, I'm not even sure why I opened the thread.

>>84844662
shes just trying to control the situation. its not "calm and logical" to refuse to let someone call the manager and insist on being responsible for the situation

>>84844640
that's what I'm confused by, literally Mary has everything to gain from having someone contact someone above Ruth. She gets fucking fired, they replace the RA, the new RA reals in Carla's shit, Mary gets to study

Did Willis really not think this through?

>>84844678
>Did Walky not actually know who Ruth is?
hes met her, but shes not his RA. shes essentially a stranger to him

>>84844678
Probably not, he doesn't live on the floor.

>>84844713
shes got no idea if the new RA would be better or worse than ruth, but she knows she wouldnt have any dirt on them. plus her blackmailing ruth will probably come out in the investigation.

>>84844628

This is one of the big problems with Willis's eternal September. The comic moves in real time, so we perceive the separate events as a chain of events, when in the reality of the comic strip, many of the events are all one big event. We expect the story to meet reasonable expectations of pacing, but because his time is so dilated, what looks like relationships progressing is just a few scattered conversations over a couple of days.

One of these days, I'll figure out why I'm still reading this strip. It's certainly not for Willis's storytelling ability, nor is it for his art. Is it some kind of weird nostalgia for my own college years? Maybe that's it.

>>84844774
RUTH SLAPPED THE SHIT OUT OF HER AND DOESN'T DO HER JOB

>>84844464
What is Mary doing right now? Is she trying to cover up Billie and Ruth's relationship? Why is she pinning guilt on Walky? This strip is a fucking mess.

>>84844640
But Mary lost her blackmail material when they Billie moved all her stuff out of Ruth's room.

>>84844829
and now she feels like she has ruth under her control, so that wouldnt happen again. a new RA could easily do exactly the same things

>>84844856
Ruth didn't even follow the prayer at the end of the hall meeting like Mary demanded and nothing came of it

Ruth and Billie moved all evidence of Billie living with Ruth back into her room. There's no alcohol in Ruth's room either, though there will probably be a smell lingering in the air

Why can't you admit this plot point makes no sense

>>84844856
I swear this whole thing just reads like Willis is in an abusive relationship and trying to tell us about it.

>>84844993
i do think its stupid and marys blackmail was poorly done. im only defending marys motives.

>>84844193

Apparently, that test actually has a shitton of hidden material it looks for. It's full of questions that seem innocuous or straightforward, but the way you answer could be the difference between you having OCD and being a certified psychopath.

>>84844993
Mary's actions make sense in the context of the plot, even if the plot itself is full of gaping holes.

>>84845070
okay, I agree Mary has poorly explained motives that don't make sense but totally believe Willis believes this is the motivation for Mary

>>84845068
It's kinda frightening that you could make a very good argument for Willis either having an abusive partner and justifying them or Willis being an abusive partner and justifying himself.

>>84845191
I wouldn't be surprised if he's emotionally abusive to his wife.

He already abuses his baby twins by making them dance to the new Ghostbusters soundtrack

>>84845231
I wouldn't go that far. "Get Ghost" is really catchy.

>>84845231
Nah, if anything she's the one who emotionally abuses him...at least he thinks she does. She won't let him buy Transformers as much as he used to because they have babies.

I've seen that he also custom paints his pieces as well, really hope he does that outside.

>>84845231
I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks his wife is emotionally abusive but in reality she just wants him to act like an adult sometimes.

Aren't his kids too young to dance? I thought they were pre-walking age.

>>84845105
It'd be pretty easy to rewrite this as making it look like Mary is the one trying to help.

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So willis tumblr is literally nothing but defending new Ghostbusters and Jon Stewart for some reason but I did find this gem

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>>84845498
Meanwhile, this is the most recent preview panel.
It's for 13 October.

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>>84844464
Redemption?

>>84845664
I'm not the only thinking he fucked up Becky's right eye there yeah?

>>84845664
>not only does Becky's eye show up from behind her hair, so does her fucking freckles

WILLLLLLLLIIIIIIISSSSS!

>>84845664
>that awkward moment when the new relationship phase wears off and you realize you're dating a retard

>>84844464
Wait, is purple-haired chick's (Other Rachel?) eye covering her hair in panels four and six?

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>>84845948
oh shit! Those aren't glasses, those are giant exposed eyeballs!

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>>84845664
>>84845873

>>84843540
God, just drive into an oncoming truck already!

>>84846187
Bless you, anon.

Have we ever gotten any good BeckyxDina smut?

>>84846047
After a certain point in a web comic's lifespan, artists just stop drawing glasses and have the lenses be an extension of their faces.

>>84845291
That initial surge of Nerd Dad cred has faded, and Willis is realizing he has to be a mature human being now.

Also, Mrs Willis seems to not want to play the internet game and be Dave's personal shield maiden in his internet battles.

>>84846400
>after a certain point, Willis will just draw creepy doll eyes on everyone and call it a day

There we go, that makes more sense

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>>84846653
He used to draw actual glasses once... granted Amber was also once an almost functional young woman, but that doesn't really fly with his target audience.

And yeah, the solid black eyes he uses at times is super freaky.

>>84846861
The black dot eyes he gave Ruth in OP's pic makes me think she's got eyes like a chameleon.

>>84844464
>Mary is worried about losing her leverage over Ruth, even though it hasn't resulted in anything good for her.

Great writing, Willis.

Her judging Walky is way more in line with how I remember her character in Roomies, but it seems like a weird aside. Especially since she's trying to present herself as a moral center.

Also, inb4 Walky and Dorothy break up when she realizes he doesn't trust her enough to share important things, and that he partially blames her for convincing him to dismiss his gut feeling about Billie.

>>84847210
It's completely out of place since she has no idea about Ruth's self-destructive behavior and has no reason to deflect blame on Walky, especially since she's trying to cover up what's happening to retain her blackmail material.

>>84844298
I still think the most grounded depiction of depression in a webcomic is Roast Beef from Achewood

>>84846861
>amber got thicker over time
Nice

>>84844464
I have never read this comic before. Why are two of the characters dressed as Mario and Launchpad McQuack?

>>84844852
We don't know what Mary's evil plan actually is because Willis doesn't know what her plan actually is. Also, he seems to now just be deliberately writing her as incompetent and confused and easily sidestepped as a middle finger to her ironic fans.

>>84847718
It was halloween.

There was one student who didn't the memo, however...

>>84847897
> that realization when willis will never do holiday themed story lines because they would take the better part of a year to get through

wew lad

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In case anyone cares, Cerberus literally had so much to say about the strip in OP she had to separate it into two separate post just to be under the character limit

>>84847927
The lack of holiday arcs aside, can we just stop for a minute and recognize that Mary's jacket dress and loose turtleneck is a great design?

>>84847988
That's really fucking impressive. Let me guess, you can summarize it in about three sentences?

>>84847988
>>84848125
I'm sorry, it's FUCKING THREE full post now

she's been writing it from 1 55 to 2 18 . That's just 20 full minutes analyzing a 6 panel newspaper strip.

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>>84844464
>oh hey i guess mary sounded kinda sympathetic a couple strips back didn't she
>better correct that

>>84847988
>>84848125
>>84848186
shes mentioned before doing this is part of her therapy, so shes not just doing it for fun or anything

>>84848186
She's been like that for awhile. It's kinda sad that she's so desperate for representation and validation that she'll obsess over a two-dimensional trans ace character in a half-assed webcomic.

>>84848216
that's actually really sad

She has to stay up and overanalyze a shitty webcomic everyday for ever in a vain attempt to make her feel better and Willis just refers to her as "the transgendered poster"

truly god is cruel

>>84848277
>She has to stay up and overanalyze a shitty webcomic everyday for ever in a vain attempt to make her feel better
...Pot callin' the kettle black.

>>84847988
Cerberus bafflingly (concerningly?) reads Ruth/Billie as this tragic, star-crossed lovers romance, so it makes sense that this strip would merit a giant comment.

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>>84848329

>>84848277
Nah, it's something her therapist has her doing to work out her feelings. It makes a little sense, as it'd allow the therapist an unfiltered look at her feelings and projections.

>>84848329
We're doing basic lit-crit and mocking. I'm pretty sure that the most extensive posts in these threads are the occasional fanfic stuff.

>>84848430
Yeah, I like doing literary analyses, and people in the comments get butthurt when I try to ask questions or discuss things from that standpoint.

This is basically the only place to have an honest, critical discussion about the comic.

>>84846187
top kek

>>84844640
People want to be in control. It may be a win to have Ruth run out of the dorm but in the big picture, that means new R.A. that Mary will have zero control over and she'll have to start from square-one trying to figure out a weakpoint if there even is one.

>>84849109
Mary never really wanted control over Ruth. She just wanted Carla to leave her alone.

>>84849109
or she's not a villain master mind and just goes back to being quiet in her room away from everyone and studying

>>84848474

lololol i have a feeling they're very much "the curtains are just blue!"

>>84848430
he still isn't wrong, we care about this comic way too much, more than any of us are willing to admit

>But I don't care about this stupid comi-
Yes you do, if you didn't care about it you wouldn't seek out the fucking GENERAL, we all care about this comic so much that we created an actual general to discuss it and wait with baited breath for the patreon poster to show up and give us tomorrows strip early

I hate to admit it guys, but...Willis won,

>>84844829
Maybe Mary's plan is actually not to blackmail Ruth into doing her job but simply to punish her and make her miserable

>>84848329
The sad part is paying for therapy for that. We do it without paying a dime.

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>>84848188
>expecting anything less from Willis

>>84844464
>Mary's last line
Pot meets kettle.

>>84849662
We never said we didn't care about the comic. We've always been pretty upfront that the reason why we have these threads is because DoA could be a good, or at least decent, drama only to be held back by Willis' personal issues and limits as a writer. And yes, there is a difference between multiple people pointing out issues with the plot or character actions and someone needing three max length comment posts to express their opinion on a six panel comic strip. You want read too much into things? Fine, but you're probably better off in the Grant Morrison thread.

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>>84850907
Not really. Mary didn't know about Ruth's suicidal tendencies. Just her relationship with Billie.

Hell, did Mary even know about the alcoholism? The only other issue that Mary brought up was Becky squatting in Billie and Sal's room. Technically Mary still has that leverage over Ruth.

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>>84852955
>Hell, did Mary even know about the alcoholism? The only other issue that Mary brought up was Becky squatting in Billie and Sal's room.

She didn't mention it in the initial argument, but she somehow found out after and realized that she's an alcoholic.

You can't have a villain and only have them show up to do bad things. You have to show them having intent to do bad things in the interim. For example, Mary was shown spying on Billie leaving Ruth's room and doing an evil plotter pose. That was paid off when she made Ruth back down the first time. However, since then, Mary hasn't done anything but drink soda and say some words to Ruth.

>>84845498

>that "it's important to be honest" rant

I think it's important to be honest that the film bombed harder than Hiroshima.

>>84854636

It's done better than Batman Vs. Superman AND Man of Steel, combined though.

>>84854946

Is that an accomplishment?

>>84854946
While bad, those movies actually made money.

>>84855076
while bad, this webcomic actually makes money

>>84855427
Yep, more than Ghostbusters can say.

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Also, make more depressing edits!

>>84849191
Yeah, she only wanted control because Ruth wasn't doing her job. The whiteboard weiners were the start of the downfall, because Mary told Ruth and got a slap in the face for it. It took Amazi-Girl, not the RA, to find the culprit. Mary wants an RA who will do her job.

>>84849209
Lol, in my experience, they jumped down my throat because discussing Mary and Carla's plotline meant that I was being a horrible person because those things have happened to people in real life, and I wasn't in the confines of ~the classroom~

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>>84844464
I have no idea what Mary's play is here.

>>84847210
Mary hasn't had any leverage over Ruth since Billy moved out and they threw away the booze bottles. Is Willis trying to make her a Roger Chillingworth-type whose only goal is Ruth's protracted suffering?

I'm so confused.

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>>84857613
>Is Willis trying to make her a Roger Chillingworth-type whose only goal is Ruth's protracted suffering?
Seems so. I bet Willis realized he wrote himself into a corner concerning Mary and is now trying something new that doesn't seem to be working.

>>84857613
>Mary hasn't had any leverage over Ruth since Billy moved out and they threw away the booze bottles. Is Willis trying to make her a Roger Chillingworth-type whose only goal is Ruth's protracted suffering?

>I'm so confused.

We have no idea what her motivations are. She tried to get Ruth to do a prayer, but then denied that was important to her , saying,"I'd rather cash this in for something bigger than a stupid prayer." That statement was way too dismissive for someone who's supposed to be a hyper-devout christian. Since then she's used anti-LGBT language, but only to Ruth, not to Carla, Dina or the lesbian couple who lives on the floor. She threatened Ruth with revealing her secret in order to force her to stop Carla, but Ruth did nothing and there was 0 follow-up.

Her leverage is kinda important in the story, because it lead to Billie and Ruth breaking up and to Ruth's subsequent break-down, but Willis has completely failed to show how that leverage is important to Mary. It would be easy if, say, she held a grudge against Ruth because of the physical abuse, and broke up her relationship as revenge. There would be some issues as breaking up a lesbian relationship would probably be seen as good from her perspective (saving Ruth's soul by getting her out of a sinful relationship, which could also be a decent motivation) but she's already going around calling prayers "stupid" so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch.

>>84845072
Damn... I guess that just makes it important that you think about how to answer each question, which I guess is the whole point of that thing.
>>84845707
Oh, son of a- You're absolutely right. Why do webcomic artists do this? More importantly, why do I get so mad about it?
>>84847670
Pasqualo from It Hurts! is also a great depiction.
>>84847813
Let's be honest here - most of her fans aren't "ironic".
>>84847988
>>84848186
Uh... huh...
>>84848125
It really is a damn good look. Not just for her, but as a look in general.
>>84848329
Hey, at least we're concise.

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>>84856913
>>84857812

posted

t. tumblr anon

Also, someone sent in pic related. So I was thinking of answering this by having everyone in /co/ post reasons why they don't like willis and DoA, and I'll use those as the answer.

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>>84859946

>>84858837
The whole point of Mary's blackmail was to add drama to the story. That's it. Willis needed a reason to have drama because all of these strips since that strip where we found out that it was Joe that Joyce was talking to is an entirely new book. He's following formula now instead of trying to come up with interesting way of moving the story.
It goes,
>Worried but optimistic beginning
>Everything seems fine
>Introduce new drama element, small dose
>Introduce HUGE drama element
>All the characters are now in some way affected by this new Drama, even if they haven't interacted with the person or people who caused it
>Big ass stakes are now at play
>Someone might die
>Issue resolved quickly and without much payoff because Willis got bored
>Nobody dies.

>>84859946
what even is the tumblr?

>>84859946
>No, I don't hate Willis or his fans, I hate how he uses the most bare minimum of understanding to wards people of color or those in non-heterosexual relationships as an excuse to write stereotypes.

>>84860436

http://doa-edits.tumblr.com/

>>84859946
Genuinely hate? I dunno, does he genuinely hate anyone who disagrees or comes with confusion to his comments that he dismisses, insults, and/or patronizes before posting their comments to twitter/tumblr for his followers to laugh at? Dude's got thin skin and a shitty attitude: a terrible combination.

The comic is easy to critique.

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>>84859946
I hate what he's become - I have genuinely fond memories of "Roomies" and "It's Walky!"... even "Shortpacked" was pretty good, until that stupid Drama Tag bullshit.

Now? Now, he just spins his wheels and bumbles along, making sure to pander to his new audience, who mostly consist of easily-pleased children, inbetween snapping at people who want him to stop stagnating.

I don't even feel anger, really... just disappointment.

>>84859572
>It really is a damn good look. Not just for her, but as a look in general.
>>84848125
>Mary's jacket dress and loose turtleneck

I'm sure nobody cares, but that is called a cowl-neck, rather than being part of the turtleneck family.

>>84859946
Willis's comics create a sense of intrigue that is honestly blocked every single time something interesting could happen.

It's highly related to addiction/gambling models, for me at least. You take a gamble by checking the comic. It has a 10% chance of being worth your time, like spending a dime at a slot machine. Something will occasionally pique your interest, convincing you that the 10% chance is worth the time. And it's only a few seconds out of your day, so why not shoot for that 10% chance?

Willis responds to fans and non-fans with equal vitriol. Everyone and everything deserves to be mocked and "put on blast," so to speak. He treats everyone who disagrees with him as if they are not only stupid but also as if they're pedophiles or murderers.

He can't handle constructive criticism or even gentle questioning of his methods.

He rules over his comment section with an iron fist and only allows the comments he likes--and the ones he wants to mock--to stand.

Every character has a possibly interesting basis, but he squanders every opportunity to develop them.

He has no sense of tone or pacing, so the comic comes across as a jumbled mess.

I want to like the characters, and I want to like the comic. I actually used to be eager for updates.

But after a while, everything was just so depressing. Nothing good ever happened.

Plus, he started setting up jokes and then squashing them in the dumbest ways possible.

Willis spews out so much hatred on a daily basis, yet he wants to be look upon like a paragon of social justice.

This is despite his treatment of his characters in marginalized communities as if they are one-dimensional stereotypes.

He tries to tell us over and over again that "this character is like this" and "this character is like that" through dialogue, but they don't have those traits at all.

He puts no effort into the comic or its continuity, so why should we put any effort into liking it?

Wat comic is this?

>>84861610
Dumbing of Age. A bunch of terrible people live on a college campus together. There is lots of drama and too many attempts at comedy that fall flat.

The characters are almost interesting but are mostly just awful.

There are a lot of gay and bi people. They suck just as much as, if not more than, the straight people.

Everyone is a one-dimensional stereotype.

>>84861112
Someone use this knowledge to cosplay Mary at a con

>>84861478
Too long, didn't read, but I can tell you put a lot of time, effort, and energy-san into this post. Go outside kid, it will be better for your health.

>>84859946
>criticism/troll blog
>implying those two things are related

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>>84862014
Nah, it took no effort at all. I have a Master's degree in English, so stuff like that is nothing to me. I tend to forget that this kind of thing looks unusual on the Internet.

And I spent all week moving people out of an apartment with no elevator, from the fourth floor. I want to sit and gripe about comics, dang it.

>>84854341
>That was paid off when she made Ruth back down the first time.
Sort of, she basically said "You're a shitty RA, just leave me alone. It's not really that despicable.
You're right though, she hasn't done anything since, except fail to hold a prayer. The current strip would make more sense if Mary were actually abusing her power over Ruth.

Also that strip is stupid as fuck. All that foreshadowing for a pie in the face.

>>84861835
Thanks, from the images here it looked okay, but now I guess I'll pass... Maybe some other day then...

>>84862342
No problem. If you ever feel like mocking something just for the giggles, we'll be here.

>>84861478
>This is despite his treatment of his characters in marginalized communities as if they are one-dimensional stereotypes.
this is a common trope that I've heard referred to as the 'wheeler' effect(named after the captain planet character) I have no idea if it's a thing on tvtropes or not. some people so desperate to be socially inclusive that they include multiple minorities as much as possible to be featured alongside the white cast members. however, because they don't want to be seen as racist, those racially diverse cast members tend to get only a couple positive traits, while the white characters are the ones that get all the negative traits given to them, or are the ones that do the stupid things that serve to develop them.

in willis' case, he does this via his christian characters. they're all white and holier than thou, and treated like absolute shit, being walked all over, or they're depicted as mustache twirling villains or psychotics. this is alright in his eyes, though, because christians can be taken down a peg. as a side result, however, his minority characters that he's showing off remain just bland. ethan is JUST a self-hating gay guy. carla is JUST an attention-seeking trans girl. sal is JUST a rebel mulatto.

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Guess who's back.

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>>84861112

>>84864339
it's spelled controversial.

>>84864339
Colors look better, though the pure black shading is a little extreme for a light comedy setting (also inconsistently placed). The biggest sticking point for me is the spacing and shape of word bubbles-- differently spaced and you wouldn't need those little jut-ins, the bubbles in panel 2 could use a bridge between them, and there's no reason for a bubble to be going over the panel lines.
I like the flower hat, tho.

>>84862959
I think that's a good portion of why the characters are so disappointing. They have a chance of being something more, but they drop down every time Willis thinks he needs to bash Christians, or white people, or men.

>>84865937
Thank you!
>>84867083
Alright, I will lighten up on the black shading, sorry, one of my critics reccomended it.

>>84869965
As long as we're here, I'd also like to note that it should be "too" gossipy, not "to" gossipy.

I like the various poses and facial expressions.

>>84870146
Thanks! I will fix that.

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>>84848125
>Mary's jacket dress and loose turtleneck is a great design

I like it, I can picture being lost in a desert and having her appear dressed like that.Then she drinks her soda and reads me bible passages as I die of thirst.

>>84860987
Where did you find that masterpiece of an image?

>>84855427
A terrifying amount of money.

>>84861478
>>84860447
>>84860662

posted at http://doa-edits.tumblr.com/post/148027712932/do-you-genuinely-hate-willis-and-his-fans-or-is

t. tumblr anon

>>84847670

Roast Beef's dialogue rambles aimlessly and takes way too many words to essentially say nothing.

>>84875123
Based on that, it sounds exactly like a real person.

>>84875123

In other words, it captures being depressed perfectly. You're just saying words and rambling to fill space because you're terrified of dead air leaving you alone to be with your thoughts.

>>84848216

Cerebus is a guy, dude. A mentally and possibly physically fucked up male.

>>84871788
Shmorky.

>>84844787
>One of these days, I'll figure out why I'm still reading this strip.

Because you like the comfort in knowing you're still right.

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I miss when web cartoonists would take pot shots at one another.

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>>84875886

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>>84875908

>>84862014
>Too long, didn't read

Lazy cunt

>>84874422
>>84860662 but meant >>84860987
>tfw you think your shitty post made it onto the tumblr
>tfw your post didn't actually make it
Thanks for the emotional rollercoaster tumblranon.

>>84870573
>as I die of thirst.

But that's silly! You can drink peepee like three times before your kidneys start to get fucked up. If Mary bought the Big Gulp, that's more than enough to get you to an oasis.

...

The implication here is that you'll be consuming her urine.

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Mary is dishing out some sick burns this strip.

>>84877132
I unironically kinda love that Mary just straight up called Dorothy a slut

But I don't like that the two chicks at the end think she's a puppy killing villain

is this what having a waifu is like?

>>84877132
Willis legitimately believes that Mary is perceived as a realistic villain, doesn't he?

I'm not against her being the villain, but she hasn't been shown to do anything wrong other than being mean-spirited. Her "blackmail" consisted of telling her RA to start doing her job, and trying to hold a prayer that Ruth didn't do anyways.

Just ONE strip where Mary breaks some rules and prevents Ruth from stopping her, and this would make more sense. Even banned furniture, or alcohol or boys staying overnight, anything.

>>84877235
Guarantee that those two chicks end up being lesbians.

Hell I bet the entire floor is either lesbians or bi. Including Walky.

>>84877132
Yeah, Willis definitely wrote himself into a corner with Mary, and this whole sequence is his way of getting out of it.

This needs further analysis, but I'm moving tomorrow so I'm using that as my excuse not to do anything.

>>84877132
Wow, I mean, fuck, willis this is really something.

You just keep on doing the same things with your evil characters over and over again, you just can't keep on doing this, painting the villian so obviously. I mean seriously, all this man sees the world in is black and white, nothing inbetween. At least make Mary seem a LITTLE sympathetic, humans are not this awful, there's always at least a little bit of good in everybody, and I'm really just, kind of sad that there's no character like that, who just see's the good in people, evereyone just has to be a cynic because that's just "cool" huh?

I'm just glad I don't stoop THIS low with my comics.

>>84877235
Yes anon, yes it is.

>>84877132
have you noticed all the "good" characters in this strip have doll eyes while Mary is the only one with actual pupils?

Is this some subliminal racism on Willis' part?

>>84877314
The biggest problem I have with this is that Willis HAS shown us that Ruth did physically abuse Mary, so Mary does have reason to want to get back at Ruth.

But you can't talk about that, because anytime you try and explain why Mary might be doing what she's doing, you get called a bigot.

>>84877132
I love this so much. Willis is trying desperately to paint Mary as an irredeemable, unsympathetic villain, but he keeps giving her genuinely good one-liners that cut through so much of the bullshit these characters have built up around themselves. Best girl forever.

>>84877132
Seriously Willis? Murdering puppies? You're that fucking desperate to make her seem like a cold hearted sociopath despite being the only person who can apparently be bothered to respect other people's privacy?

>>84877132
I find it hard to believe that Dorothy would be stumped by Mary's statement. Also, more heavy-handed garbage writing in which Mary can't keep up a facade over the duration of 2 strips. Hooray.

>Three different ways of drawing lips and they all look like terrible
You'll figure out drawing some day, Willis.

>>84877368
Humans can be awful.
However, they aren't generally this transparently awful.

Willis' main flaw is that he lacks subtlety when it matters.

On another note: Is Willis really trying to add two new characters to the strip? I know they've appeared before, but they've always been the most minor of minor characters. It feels as if Willis is going to try to give them larger roles in the future, and for a comic with an ensemble cast as large as DoA's currently is, that's really a bad idea.

>>84877610
>respect other people's privacy
she spied on billie and ruth and tried to blackmail them

>>84877779
theyve spoken before. theyre not doing anything here that requires them to stop being background characters

>>84877817
I know, but it was generally in a background element, out of the way. The same way that background characters in a TV show will exist to fill space, rarely if ever contributing to the story overall.

Maybe it's just the ensemble nature of the cast, like I said before. It's getting to be a bit unwieldy.

>>84877779
They're going to end up being the ones who get Mary expelled or some shit.

>>84877132
Also, where did Carla fuck off to? She was just going on about revealing secrets, why didn't she reveal Mary's plot, so they could actually have some sort of showdown?

Remember how at the top of this arc, Robin was in Bloomington for some reason?

I wonder if Willis remembers. Or if it's going to be important down the line. Or if he just wanted to have a convoluted excuse to draw anime Regan, which is one of the best things to come out of DOA.

>>84877791
>she spied on billie and ruth
If you count watching someone in the hallway, some time after that someone walked barged their way into your room while you were naked and basically said "maybe don't be naked lol"

>>84877791
>blackmail them
So for, the "blackmail" hasn't been sinister at all.

>>84877779
Yes I know that they can be awful, but if you talk to them about their feelings and how they ended up the way they are then you can start finding ways to help them and them maybe be able to find the good in them.

Or maybe just deal with the fact that they might have a few bad opinions or like some bad things, and if you can look past some of the bad things you can get closer to them and maybe even try to help them with there problems.

I do have a few racist and maybe even lawbreaking friends, but I don't let that affect the way I see them as people.

I mean, just look at Sal, she has friends who understand her and keep her in check, and I don't really see her causing much trouble.

I think that's all that Mary really needs, a good friend.

Sadly Willis will never explore this in his comic.

>>84877922
Oh, I'm not arguing that there isn't a gray area.
I'm saying that they aren't as blatant in their awfulness as Willis is making Mary out to be.

>>84877920
still not "respecting their privacy" and i dont for a second think you really believe thats her motivation here

>>84877791
>she spied on billie and ruth

>characters A and B have very loud, very public discussions about their relationship within earshot of everyone on the floor
>character C overhears things
>SPY SAPPIN' MAH SENTRY!

>>84877956
>i dont for a second think you really believe thats her motivation here
That's the thing, we haven't been shown anything about Mary's motivations. Does she want to call Carls slurs just to be mean? Does she want special treatment? What rules does she want to break and get away with?

So far all that's come of the "blackmail" is a failed prayer and a pie to the face. She ought to be glad to have Ruth fired and replaced, instead of trying to milk something she hasn't been milking.

>>84844464
Why is this Honduran boy pretending he's a jigaboo?

>>84878127
Because he's apparently the whiter of the two black children to have plopped out of his mother's womb.

>>84877132
So, now is Mary suggesting that they all blackmail Ruth? To what possible end?

I am utterly confused by this shit.

>>84877314
>villains have to break rules
Never heard of Lawful Evil, I see.

>>84877132
This is so retarded, why can't I stop following this strip?

>>84878734
No, she's just so enthusiastically evil and stupid that she can't keep from sharing her personal plan with them.

>>84877132
Has Mary even interacted negatively with these two characters? Why do they dislike so much to go to "puppy-murderer" lengths? This could be acceptable with Walky or Dorothy or anyone else she's personally insulted.
Also where -did- Carla go? She should be all about this shit.

>>84879036
its addicting

>>84877387

Well Joyce, her Dad, and her faggot brother all have eyes with pupils. And her "Evil" mom and evangelist brother do not

>>84879220
Carla walked away knowing she saved the day

>>84879149
Er, what I really mean is she's a realistic and well-drawn Christian fundamentalist character, based on Willis' completely unbiased and accurate memories of how they acted around him.

>>84879248
Ruth has had green eyes with pupils ever since Billie caught her drinking herself to death/to unemployment. Then she got dot eyes since she's depressed now. Cause I guess she wasn't "depressed" when she almost got herself fired.

>>84879307
>Ruth has had green eyes with pupils
Er, not pupils. Green irises with sclera.

>>84877132
Mary is genuinely best girl. All her shit is reactionary to the bias scum around her. She dinn do nuffin wrong.

>>84880168
No, Mary's a self-righteous asshole who happens to be up against bigger assholes. Dina is best girl.

Okay, after this latest patreon strip I'm fed up with Willis. We could do this waaaay better, or atleast decent.

Where would you start? Most importantly, how would you salvage this current shitty arc?

>>84877132
Apparently Willis can't into subtlety. She isn't even twirling her mustache entertainingly.

>>84881453
make mary actually do something besides talk shit and fail to use her blackmail material; not have billie charging in there like always because ruth is just SO SAD (and someone should be looking out for her; sal KNOWS how ruth used to treat her and should be able to put the pieces together)

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>>84877132
>Willis so so desperate to make Mary into a mustache twirling villain for the high crime of not putting up with the bullshit and lgbt crap in this comic
>constantly falls flat because the """""protagonists""""" are such pieces of shit to her and others that in any other world Mary would be the hero in this situation

How does someone fuck up thier own fag pandering comic so badly? Also that burn god damn

>>84881453
Well, in my parody comic, I was going to have my Mary expy do her usual thing to the main character, but she would be unaffected by it and slowly throughout the series she would open up more and more and show that she's not actually that bad of a person, but she's so scared of being at the bottom of the ranking ladder and everyone being above her that she takes other people down because she's jealous wants to have the friends they have and wants the care they get.

Mainly because of how she was neglected by her mom and dad compared to her brothers and sisters. And it's not that her parents hated her, they just, kind of forgot she existed sometimes because of how much of a "background girl" she is.

At least, that's what I have planned, and made up half of just now.

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Oh yeah, also forgot the new comic!

>>84882237
thats not even better than the real storyline. this is such a low bar and you cant even pass it what the fuck dewd

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>>84882261

>>84882330
Ok ok, I'll admit, it's very rough and could use a lot of touching up. but still, the basic structure is there. If there is anyways you could help me out to make it better, please let me know, I am open to critisism!

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>>84859946
Well, I hate DoA because it's like QC in its utter ineptitude and poorly wrought nature, whether it be its writing or art, but I hate Willis because he's a hypocritical little dweeb who hates his mommy despite acting just like he claims she does.

He's also a little ugly freak who's very obviously mentally ill and suffering from some extreme arrested development, but that's neither here nor there

>>84882512
>it's not that her parents hated her, they just, kind of forgot she existed sometimes because of how much of a "background girl" she is.
for starters, this is a stupid concept and is incompatible with a serious character arc. unless the whole thing youre going for is a joke, in which case seriously just give up.

>Mary does her usual thing to the main character
>she's so scared of being at the bottom of the ranking ladder and everyone being above her that she takes other people down because she's jealous wants to have the friends they have and wants the care they get.
a character being a jerk in plenty of ways could have this motivation, but it doesnt make sense for mary's "usual thing". the only time shes directly tried to advance in any way was her half-assed blackmail attempt, and she never even asked for much. and in every social situation shes in she pushes people away. a realistic interpretation would suggest she genuinely dislikes everyone and wants to be left alone. thats not compatible with someone whos "jealous about not having friends".

you want to do something similar but better, id suggest instead making her someone whos naturally kind of abrasive and cynical who originally wanted friends but couldnt get any because people dont like that shit. she never quite figured out what she was doing wrong, and so instead she started to resent everyone and continued to treat them badly because of it.

also straight up drop the neglectful parents thing

>>84877132
>Your the negative voice in my head
>Do I have to punch her now?
>What's your ballpark figure on how many puppies she's murdered?
I've never seen an author so butthurt over his own character. Like he is writing this through clenched teeth. Its fucking hysterical.

Also why is Mary trying to get other people to blackmail Ruth, and then denying it? This way of making everyone go "fuck Mary" makes no sense.

>>84882826
>Do I have to punch her now?
walky has also said this about becky so i think it should get a pass here

>>84878127
>>84878370
Make no mistake: they are a quarter black. Their dad is half.

>>84882770
Ok, gotcha thanks, I will do that.

It's late at night and I was just spitballin' but what you got was very much the better option here.

>>84882261
Should be "rogue" instead of "rouge."

I like that your Billie character clearly is a parody since Billie is so ridiculous as is!

But how did her green triangles move to the side of her head in the first panel?

>>84882237
I think the jealousy stuff is overdone when it comes to people perceived as bullies.

Maybe she's accustomed to people running away so she doesn't know how to talk to anyone without coming off terrible.

I spent a lot of my childhood being terrible to my family, and there are times when they still expect me to be this horrible person when I'm trying to say something as neutrally as possible. As a result, I have yet to find a way of expressing criticism that doesn't make me sound like a horrible person.

I'm fine with talking via writing, but I come off as bristly and unpleasant to other people, even when I'm trying really hard to be nice.

Don't blame her parents for her issues. I've come to realize that I'm just a terrible person, and I'm going to try to be better. But for now, everyone expects me to be mean and awful. Maybe you could set up something in the same vein for your Mary character.

Perhaps she used to be socially awkward and ended up spending most of her time reading, so she uses big words all the time, but that makes people feel like she's trying to intimidate them or make them feel stupid. ......... and I realize now that that's something true for myself.

Take some time to look at villains/antagonists that you find interesting. Jealousy and neglect are surface-level issues that you can find anywhere. I'm sure that if you think about it, you'll figure something better out.

>>84883057
Keep striving man. I know you're just gonna' improve.

>>84882237
I wouldn't mind seeing a fan's origin story of Mary. She is written so ridiculously evil and complacent with being an outsider, while not seeming emotionally screwed up or depicted as sympathetic in this comic that I could probably enjoy a makeshift backstory or explanation.

As the other anon said though, the neglectful parent thing should be dropped. It is the go too for most writers and is kinda hack now.

>>84844464
>>84877132
I am utterly confused.
It's like they want to punch Mary for no reason.
I guess it is possible to say they hate her because she's a pretty hateful person herself and she doesn't have any friends. But I don't see what she said here that'd make them want to punch her.

>>84883544
walky wants to punch mary because she just said he was using his girlfriend for sex

>>84883620
But he is...and she is using him. Dorothy is gonna drop him like it's hot when she gets into her Ivy League school. Though if she's so smart, then why didn't she get accepted to one in the first place?

Also someone call a doctor to get a look at that sick burn from Mary.

DOROTHY A SLUT !
Mary says something, everybody in the comic wants to shit on her, but it's okay when it's Joyce who says the same things. Nice double standards, Willis.

>>84883373
There are a couple of backstories for Mary that could make a lot of sense.

1. She's rebelling against her more liberal parents.
2. She had trouble making friends growing up and her asshole behavior is a reaction formation.
3. Feelings of powerless or inadequacy coupled with a relatively normal upbringing.
4. Thorough disillusionment with other people due to past experience.

I think option four would be the best option for the tone DoA takes.

>>84885998
I only think of her as an evil Joyce. Same religious upbringing, same train of thoughts, but without the inherent kindness and naive views of the world that Joyce always gets as an excuse to being a horrible main character. nd frankly, I wouldn't put it past Willis to go with that, or the most cliché, boring, hacky, backstory he could get for her. If we ever get to it.

>>84884262
That's the obvious course for Dorothy... so it's a good thing DoA's never leaving freshman year, so she and Walky won't have to deal with that fallout.

>>84886365
What if Willis goes on for twenty years of DoA strips, so we can follow the whole college experience ?

>>84886170
If you're running Mary and Joyce as counterparts you could do it as simple as the difference in church attended. Joyce went to a very evangelical church, so to her Christianity is welcoming and open. She preaches the Good News. Mary, on the other hand, could have gone to a much more insular church. Less about spreading the word of God and more about being a refuge from the sin of the world.

>>84886421
At his current rate of one week in universe to one year of strips and assuming he skips winter and summer break, graduation will be sometime in 2154.

I just realized how poorly Willis is handling Mary.

No villainous character would ever want to share their plans with anybody else. Willis is writing Mary to be like "Hey, I'm blackmailing Ruth; who else wants a piece of the action?" when in reality no antagonist would ever want that unless they could get something out of the other person.

>>84887835
Willis' writing for this arc has been abysmal.

>>84886421
He himself said it would always be freshman year

>>84882261

I'm still meh on most of these but that last thought bubble made me laugh out loud. Good job.

>>84883168
Actually my Billie character (sarah) is actually going to be a mixture of Billie and Amber, that's why she says she's gonna "spiderman this shit" because she's gonna publish herself as a superhero in the newspaper.

But I like what you are saying, that she's really just but at talking to people and comes off as intimidating, i'm gonna be writing this down.

Also it may seem like the green triangle's moves, but that's really because she actually has 4 of them.

>>84883224
Thanks dude, I guess this is so hard for me because I've never really worked on a serious antagonist, I guess you can say, before.

>>84883373
Yeah, I will be dropping the neglectful one, in my mind I thought it was a good idea, thinking "Oh man! Everyone always does abusive parents! What about neglectful ones" But then you guys showed me whats what and now I won't be using that.

>>84887835

If she had some cadre of equally sociopathic intolerant backwards friends and they started improvising a plot following her lead while everyone was massed around the door, I could almost see this working. But it's just Mary, openly hateful no friends no support network too mean for the school church Mary, apparently thinking she can convince a floor full of people who hate her to blackmail someone.

I wonder if Mary's arcs would work better if she was one member of a trio or foursome that Ruth had to deal with, instead of just the bitchy religious girl.

>>84888411
> for this arc
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>>84883620
>walky wants to punch mary because she just said he was using his girlfriend for sex
>>84884262
>But he is...and she is using him.

Actually, now that I think about it, Walky pretty much is using Dorothy. Dotty is completely emotionally engaged with Walky and trying to share her entire life with him, even though it's just temporary. Walky refuses to share anything too personal since they're "not getting married and it's just for fun."

I wonder if this is one of those Mike-style moments where a character changes their life based on "real talk" from an asshole, or if it's just a throwaway line.

>>84875930
Sadly Mike Poe is pretty annoying as well, if on the other side of the spectrum.

>>84885998
I can kinda see a mix between 2 and 4. Being very religious can limit your ability to befriend other kids,especially if your family forbids TV or something. And speaking as someone who is religious/conservative and a complete outsider at my very liberal college lot of that does come from bitterness based on negative past experiences. These seem like decent options for development.

>>84877368
Well, Joyce sees the good in most people, even when they challenge her worldview. However, this has led to her becoming friends with Dorothy, who is a fucking awful person. I'm glad Mary called Dorothy out on being a skanky little bitch.
>>84883620
>>84884262
They're not even a "couple" in the traditional sense... "fuck buddies" is closer to the mark.

>>84897504
Joyce should have tried being friends with Mary.

Well that's what I'm gonna try doing with my comic.

>>84897947
I'm gonna make a doag comic too. It's gonna have blackjack and hookers.

>>84898018
but what arc should I parody first?

>>84897947
>Joyce should have tried being friends with Mary.
I agree. Joyce suddenly jumped from "draw us for our door!! :D :D :D" to "She hates everyone. Just ignore her." And there's no real transition from that.

>>84897504
>Dorothy, who is a fucking awful person
Questions for the group:
Just what is it that makes her so awful?
When was the first time you realized she's a terrible person?
What confirmed your thoughts?

I ask this in part because I saw a lot of myself in Dorothy at the beginning, but now, it seems like we're totally different people. She strikes me as a bit... heartless. I can't quite pinpoint where the change happened.

>>84898114
Yeah, and now I'll have more reason for that. Since I'm gonna be skipping the arc with Ethan (mainly because I put her in a relation ship with Andy, and because it was pretty fucking dumb.) I'm gonna replace that with an arc about being better firends with Mary.

>>84898072
the one that would most benefit from blackjack and hookers.

maybe the parents visitation week?

>>84898072
Maybe the party?

>>84898114
>I agree. Joyce suddenly jumped from "draw us for our door!! :D :D :D" to "She hates everyone. Just ignore her." And there's no real transition from that.

The jump between those things is bad, but the reason Joyce doesn't like Mary is because of that time they went to church together and Mary was bitch to everyone. It was really early in the strip.

>Questions for the group:
>Just what is it that makes her so awful?
>When was the first time you realized she's a terrible person?
>What confirmed your thoughts?

I would also like to know the answer to these questions with examples, cause Dorothy doesn't strike me as bad or a bitch or whatever.

I think her dumping Danny and dating Walky was actually done fairly well, and doesn't bother me at all. There are some moments when is a bit uncaring, like when she shows up at Danny's dorm and messes stuff up with him and Amber, or when she tries to go to him for shoes for Walky, but she has enough moments of being good to even out to just being an average person.

>>84898323
That sounds much better. I wonder if there's any lampshading you can do about a gay guy trying to re-closet himself.

>>84899898
Eh, that gay stuff if kind of a touchy subject, doing it wrong could have some really bad concequences, and I'm not confident in my story telling skills to successfully pull that off yet, most of this comic is actually uncharted waters for me and every strip is a little risky. (still a little worried about the party chapter and other serious moments coming up in this chapter too.) So I'm mainly staying away from him for now unless I get a good idea or something, I'm just gonna have him be a side character for now.

Hypothetical question: Carla and Becky were never born. Who's the most annoying character in the comic?

>>84898114
>
Just what is it that makes her so awful?
Her know-it-allness
>When was the first time you realized she's a terrible person?
When she made Joyce feel bad for not properly eating sushi at the expensive sushi place, even though Joyce doesn't even like sushi, and there are probably dozens of places where students could go get dinner and oh dear I've gone cross-eyed.
>What confirmed your thoughts?
When I heard about her bullshit relationship drama. If you don't want to continue a relationship when you go to college, you damn well talk to your current bf before either of you make any solid plans.

And yeah, there's something about the way she treats people that's... off. Manipulative, sociopathic, call it what you want... she's definitely in the top 5 cunts of DoA.
>>84901039
Hmmmm... my gut reaction is Sal, but Roz can be really fucking irritating as well.

>>84901409
>When she made Joyce feel bad for not properly eating sushi at the expensive sushi place, even though Joyce doesn't even like sushi, and there are probably dozens of places where students could go get dinner and oh dear I've gone cross-eyed.
Joyce went to the sushi place because Becky wanted to try it, even though she knew she knew she wouldn't eat it. It's not someone's fault for suggesting a restaurant if you're too dumb to say you don't want to eat there.

Also it's not even that she doesn't like sushi, it's that she refuses to try it because she's picky and has an aversion food that touches other food.

>>84901903
I see. So, it's Joyce's fault that Becky is pushy.

>>84902355
Yes, because Becky likes making Joyce mildly distressed and pushing her to her limits.

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>>84902355
It's Joyce's fault that she somehow feels responsible for Becky's happiness at her own expense.

>>84902694
>>84902830
Becky really doesn't deserve Joyce as a friend.

>>84884262
>>84892480
>>84897504
why are you people so convinced that if two people dont want to get married their relationship isnt real

>>84904547
Because Dorothy literally told Walky she just wants a l fuck buddy when her and Walky got together

>>84901903
>Also it's not even that she doesn't like sushi, it's that she refuses to try it because she's picky and has an aversion food that touches other food.
I am so fucking angry right now you don't even know.
I'm literally inarticulate with rage.

>>84904547
What "real relationship" has a fixed expiration date? Acting like boyfriend and girlfriend seems so fake and artificial if you're just going to drop them once they become inconvenient. Dorothy doesn't respect Walky if she's seriously still planning this.

>>84904844
maybe you should go calm down thats not a reasonable or healthy response to something like that

>>84905059
maybe you should eat a dick that has been touching like 3 other dicks because food is fucking supposed to touch other food you mcdonalds eating fuckstain.

>>84905127
'Cause it's only gay if the dicks touch?

>>84905127
im not the anon you were talking to but seriously you sound fucking crazy and this doesnt matter

>>84905168
Nah, it's totally not gay if you're rubbing your dick on a feminine penis or boiclit.

>>84905182
Actually Joyce's food issues could be great way for a writer to mirror her emotional development and maturity.

>>84904930
One of my friends put up with that for far too long. She finally broke things off with him a few months ago. All of us agreed that he should have done it himself once she gave him the expiration date.

But he continued with things in hopes that it would change. It didn't.

>>84905540
>Actually Joyce's food issues could be great way for a writer to mirror her emotional development and maturity.
That would require nuance. Too bad that Willis has never heard that word.

>>84908124
>>84905540
Willis in real life is a picky eater, he's mentioned it a lot

Remember, if a character in DoA does something wildly stupid or has a weird character trait, 90 percent of the time it comes from WIllis' real life

>>84908499
I imagine that Willis has a stack of divided trays that he eats off so that none of his food risks mingling.

>>84908499
I'm a picky eater, too, but I think that, in a literary sense, it would make more sense for Willis to use it as some symbolism, but that's only happened once that I can think of.

>>84898477

Enough with the blackjack and hookers already

>>84909595
BUT THAT WOULD MEAN JOYCE ISN'T ME- I mean, wouldn't be Willis anymore

>>84903787

Becky doesn't really deserve ANY friends

Especially Dina

>>84909896
The only friendships I can think of that haven't featured one or both parties being shitty towards the other for no reason is Joyce and Dorothy and Sal and Marcie.

>>84910178

Sal and Marcie are fighting a lot now, and Dorthy and Joyce have clashed over religion.

>>84910896
I know, hence the qualifier. Sal and Marcie's issues stem from Sal's insecurities.

>>84877132
Blackmail on the evil RA everyone fucking hates? That sounds pretty reasonable- I don't know what everyone's issue with this is. Because she's depressed that means she deserves her job?

>>84910924
it more stems from the fact that Sal doesn't like Malaya

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patreanon, do you have the full strip?

>>84904547
To be clear, when I wrote >>84892480 All I meant is that they want different things out of the relationship. I don't have any problem with their relationship being temporary, but Dorothy is engaging at a much different level than Walky.

>>84904844
This is an extreme reaction, but I find it pretty stupid as well. But I've eaten with people who won't "can't stand onion", but also don't understand that it's THEIR preference.They won't fuck off with their commentary on whatever-the-fuck food I'm eating, cause ONIONS ARE IN EVERYTHING.

>>84880500
>preferring an autist to a determined and caring person
Classic

>>84911286
I personally would be happy if I never saw or tasted an onion again. I'm not going to insult other people's food, but if you put it in mine, it's getting removed.

Certain foods need to be separated because of drippage and absorbency, but I've had to teach myself to chill out about foods touching.

I try to respect other people's food choices because I was a vegetarian for a long time and was about at my wit's end with people shoving meat in my face. I never want to be that person.

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>>84911928
>people shoving meat in my face

...

Nah. Too easy.

Patreanon has forsaken us. Time to panic!

>>84877132
> enormous RA who has been nothing but a physically- and emotionally-abusive cunt
> people actually crowding outside her door with bated breath
> people railing against someone proposing blackmail re: the one person who's been making dorm life Hell the past two weeks

If we were being VERY realistic, most of them would have just peaced out to go do whatever college kids do around campus. Maybe stare at a wall or go order pizza. Whatever.

Barring that, yeah, most people would shrug and say, "You really wanna play with blackmail? How long do you think that will last?"

NOT "OH MY GOD YOU PUPPY KILLER HOW DARE YOU TRY TO GET LEVERAGE OVER THE RA WHO PHYSICALLY ABUSED SOME OF US"

patreanon, i have sacrificed the blood of virgins, please give us a revelation

>>84914497
the worst part is his comment section is eating this shit up.

Every single one of them is like "oh Mary's gonna get it now!"

How doag? How can a fandom be so stupid?

>>84914622
Having gone to undergrad and grad school, the most people would comment to the negative would be, "I guess this person had a serious substance abuse problem, so I don't know if THAT was the leverage or the gay thing, but the whole thing was fucked up," not "MARY IS A SHITLORD FOREVER OMMGGGGHH"

Then again, I stopped being "16" when I turned 18, unlike Willis, so ...

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>>84914536
Residence Manager showed up because of those virgins you sacrificed.

>>84915129

Wait I thought the residence manager wore a Hijab

what the fuck is continuity lol

>>84915129
I wish everyone could understand that Mary is correct here. It's good that the manager showed up, but they have nothing concrete to go on.

>>84915222
No, that was a student worker in the mailroom. Because hijinks!

>>84915129

>everything Mary says is completely reasonable
>everything the residence manager says makes her look like an out-of-touch idiot in a belated attempt to fix Willis' shitty plot contrivances

It's like he's intentionally sabotaging himself at this point.

>>84915222
I don't know man, just be glad Willis is finally sticking with the same scene for more than two strips.
>>84915247
If you think one of your fellow residents is suicidal then, yeah, that's a pretty good reason to get the RA.

>>84915129
are we just going to ignore that she has actual human feces on top of her head?

>>84915129
Did... did someone spill chocolate pudding on her head or something?

>>84915296
>>84915315
As far as I can tell, she dyed her hair blonde, but her roots are showing.

>>84915294
>If you think one of your fellow residents is suicidal then, yeah, that's a pretty good reason to get the RA.
It is a good reason. But it would be good to find out more information before blabbing about her MAYBE sleeping with one of her residents. I mean, the information came from Carla. Who would actually believe her?

>>84915315
>>84915296
I think it's supposed to be her roots showing from a dye job. But that would go along the centerline of the head, not horizontally

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>>84915222
Asma is part of the hall's administrative staff, which basically involves standing in the background and sorting mail.

It'd be interesting if she was around when someone like Carla was raging about how she's constantly harassed for existing. Pretty sure no one's called Carla a terrorist to her face on a regular basis.

>>84915129
That's some ugly hair there. He tried to go outside his comfort zone and he failed harder than ever before.

>>84915363
but the way it's drawn is like a semi-viscous liquid like paint was just dumped on top of her head.

If it was her roots it would look like>>84915379
said. There's not way Willis' is that lazy or incompetent

>>84915129
Rachel Jackson has a nice ass!

>>84915129
Mary is acting more like an RA than Ruth has this entire strip

>>84915296
>>84915315

Shampoo? She only uses REAL poo!

>>84911221
id also like the full strip for this

>>84915286
>everything Mary says is completely reasonable
she does have concrete info though, shes lying

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>>84915521

>>84915719
Does she? She has no proof that Ruth is actually suicidal.

>>84915129
The fuck is with her head? Please tell me someone in the comment section will call him out. I thought she came in from wrestling pigs or something equally stupid.

And I hate the last line.
>and maybe I should have investigated that
It's done for comedy. It's a big "Ha, oops!" in the middle of a suicide arc.
He mixes seriousness and comedy so often and the story always suffers. I half of expected Billie to make a comment about how Ruth hasn't showered and smells, when she got into bed with her.

>>84915842
The only "proof" is that Carla says she is.

>>84911221

Here you go! He also posted a character model for babbycar, so I'll post that, too.

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>>84911221
Whoops! For some reason, the image didn't attach.

>>84915989
... Where?

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This is young Carla. Have you ever loved a cartoon character so much you dyed your hair to match them?

>>84916031
so Carla has had a lust to kill Christians since she was a child, I see

>>84916031
oh, oh man. what a horrible childhood. i see now why we're supposed to sympathize with Carla

>>84916031

No bullshit justifications left now, DoA commenteriat. Carla was ALWAYS a smug asshole.

>>84916061
Man, Carla sure was lucky to have already been androgynous enough that when the time came to for the surgery they didn't have to much

>>84916277
i mean, kids usually are

>>84916299
But as we've seen how Willis draws children before, the way he made Carla out here is so goddamn ambiguous.

>>84916061
this is literally just the lesbian social justice teacher as a kid

>>84916031

I hate it when they go out of their way to NOT show the parents

>>84915129
>I thought Ruth was the one R.A. who had her shit together.
How bad are those other R.A.s?

>>84915129
I can't imagine what kind of hell those other dorm floors are like.

>>84916507
When called out that Ruth's actions as RA go far beyond any limitations of actual RAs, and when asked how she managed to get the job, Willis shrugged it off and said that everybody else who applied for the job was worse than her.

Basically, an answer of "Fuck you and fuck off."

>>84916457
Wow. Good eye.

The magic of same face.

>>84916611
You know, if I wasn't a piece of shit when it came to drawing, I'd jump at the chance to actually design and come up with backstories for all the other RA's. Even if I never got to use them, just the fact that they'd be originalish and have interesting designs would be enough for me.

>>84916655
It's sloppy even by his usual standards. Carla as a kid is tricky to get right, especially with his cartoony style, so instead of putting any real thought or effort into it he just went "ehhhhhhhh tinykidandblondedone." That plus the half-assed "roots" on the residence manager makes it seem like Willis is slowly giving up on his art.

>>84916790
I think DoA could be more interesting if the cast of characters were all RAs across the different floors of their dorm. They initially meet up before the school year begins, and from there their relationships can flourish naturally.

All the characters would be on an even footing, and their rise and fall in stature and reputation would be something worth worrying about since it could cost them their jobs. Or something like that.

Just think of how many problems would be solved if we eradicated the homosexuals.

>>84916888
>Just think of how many problems would be solved if we eradicated the Willis.

There we go

>>84843809
No, but you need a doctor to know why you're handicapped.

>>84915129

Did someone take a shit on her head?

>>84916885
Yeah, but Willis was never an RA so he'd say that was boring.

>>84916929
Same thing.

>>84917007
Well, it's not my fault Willis doesn't ever want to step outside his comfort zone.

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>>84916031
>dad
>calling his son "sweetie"
I can see why Carl grew to be so fucked in the head.

>>84917130
that or Willis is implying Carl wanted to be a girl at the age of 6 and his parents just went along with it

which is kinda scary

>>84915129
Someone should do something about that mentally handicapped child in the last two panels before he hurts himself trying to kick a door.

>>84915129
I like the throwaway line showing that this lady is incompetent. Everyone's a fuck up in this world, including and especially Willis!

>>84917130

Yeah, it's weird that it's his dad doing it. If a six-year-old boy's mom was calling him "sweetie" or his grandma or something, that'd make sense. But "sweetie" really isn't a "dad word" towards their sons.

Pretty nice of them to build that toy, though.

>>84915129
...I'm confused. Is Mary trying to protect Ruth now? Cuz getting Ruth fired for a better R.A. was what she wanted all along.

Also, this is the end of R.A. Ruth. You don't get to be suicidal and in charge of your floor.

>>84916031
Kid Carla still just looks like a girl. Did she start transitioning at age 8? Isn't that illegal in some states?

>>84918370
>Ruth fired for a better R.A. was what she wanted all along
ruth getting fired was never what she wanted. if she did she couldve reported what she knew a long time ago

>>84918406
It's willis being afraid of his tranny audience. If he showed Carla too boyish then they'd freak out.

>>84877132
What is this writing?

>>84919082
The ravings of a madman.

>>84915129
>she's suicidal
>great, what an inconvenience, and i thought she was all put together. now for more quips as i get annoyed and go in

Not only is this not how most people would act, it's absolutely not how Willis World acts about things like that. He made us look at a kitten because of an attempt. This world has lead me to believe these people will overreact and lose their minds over this.

But no.

>>84918406

Kids- especially boys- can be fairly androgynous before puberty hits. A boy with a long haircut can easily be mistaken for a girl. (Or Willis has just been reading Assigned Male or something. Or maybe it's just that he's not super great at drawing kids.)

>>84915129
It would be a real nice swing if the Resident Manager opened Ruth's door and caught her fucking the dean.

>>84919213
>Not only is this not how most people would act, it's absolutely not how Willis World acts about things like that. He made us look at a kitten because of an attempt. This world has lead me to believe these people will overreact and lose their minds over this.
I dare someone to go to the trigger warning strip and say something similar to what the resident manager said, as if it were an inconvenience for the mighty Becky to see that.

In Willis World, I would expect a lot more crying and comforting, maybe people retreating to their rooms.

Instead, we get "man, this sure is a plot point."

>>84916061
I don't think that this character design could get any more boring.

>>84915436
Somebody pointed out long go that Asma could've been a foil to Ruth's absurdly violent sociopathy, but instead all he's done is make her a naggy bitch who got triggered when Joyce called her "Ma'am", because of COURSE it's Joyce who does something "wrong" and gets yelled at for it.
>>84916031
God DAMN, I fucking hate Carla.

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>>84916888
>>84916929
>>84917009

>>84915129
How ... How the fuck do this girl know that ? We kow Mary knew because she was spying on them but even if peple on the floor knew they were lesbian only Sal, Carla, Dorothy and Walky (I'm not even sure that Mary knows about that) are aware she is suicidal. So how the fuck does Rachel Jackson knew ?

>>84918548
Her goal was supposedly to have Ruth act as a R.A thanks to the leverage she had over her, not get her fired. She doesn't hate Ruth viscerally

>>84921307
Carla screamed it at the top of her lungs like five strips ago and as we all know Carla never lies.

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>>84917130

Hang on...

Hasn't there been cases in real life where parents have gone on record as deciding to make their kid trans? Like to make liberal brownie points?

WHAT IF, Carl being trans was in fact originated by his parents so they could pat themselves on the back for being so progressive?

Theyd probably be pretty anti-Christian to boot.

>>84921050
>Carla is such a piece of shit that she would cum in your hair.