Unpopular Opinions

live-action shit should be on /tv/.

>>84838845
>Muskets and instant cameras
>relics of the past
kys

Marvel and DC offer nothing good in ways of story and characters. It's just watered down garbage for the easy consumption by various Facebook groups that give them money for Bat-shirts and Avengers mugs.

>>84838896
This

While I do agree that it is /co/ related, no one talks about /co/ related things. Its all bitching about actors and directing, which is /tv/.

Mike Mignola is an uncreative mediocrity at best who can only bastardize folklore since his own characters and stories are all terrible.
I'm sure that people who perpetuate the "Hellboy/BRPD is good" bullshit are distracted by pretty art to notice how vapid Mignola's stories are.
The only good parts of Mignolaverse were written by John Arcudi whose writing is good enough to salvage Mignola's trash, but no one ever gives him any credit.

>>84839201
>thinking pedos have taste
>while also being a tripfag

Shut the fuck up, Boco.

>>84839367

No. No, not this time.

I hated that mean little bitch. Making her ugly now is just icing on the cake.

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>>84839449
>told to shut up
>decides not to

What the fuck has /co/ become?

>>84838845
You're overplaying this, anon.

I agree that a lot of older comics have become hard to read, but not all of them. There are still a lot of Golden and Silver Age comics you can enjoy today.

Using the word "contrarian" needs to be a bannable offense.
>HURR HOW DARE YOU DISAGREE WITH THE MAJORITY CONTRARIAN CONTRARIAN
It's obnoxious as hell.

>>84839168
No comment on Mignola's writing but I like his art. It's interesting and unique.

Cleveland show was comfy and the side characters were interesting.

Just once I'd like to see an actual, sincerely-held unpopular opinion in one of these threads.

>>84839755
What about >>84839168?

>>84839937
Where does /co/ generally stand on Mignola? I honestly don't know. I've seen storytimes but I don't know if he's generally respected here or not.

>>84840027

From what I've seen he's usually respected.

>>84839640
I may be harsh, but I'm just very annoyed at this point. John Arcudi is a much stronger writer, but to everyone it's always Mignola who's a genius behind everything and no one other than him ever gets any respect.

>>84840172
Because, frankly, they're not as good.

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>>84839755
I'm okay with "I've Got Batman in My Basement".

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JRJR is the GOAT comic book artist

I don't think that anything getting hate-based Daily Dose threads actually deserves the hate, let alone the time and energy spent on the threads.

I would barely remember that Willis and Jacques exist if /co/ didn't make daily threads dedicated to them.

I don't mind the art in Squirrel Girl. I've enjoyed comics before whose art was more off-putting than that. I just don't read it because I have no interest in the writing.

I don't care that Mark Millar is devoting himself to movie adaptations. He's still helping his co-creators reach new levels of exposure and make enough money to keep comics as a full-time career, and he's treating them fairly every step of the way. Also his edgy phase is over, but people here act like his edginess is all-pervasive and eternal.

I think Alan Moore comes off as friendly and affable in person and on camera, so folks should get a clue instead of only reading his textual interviews and insisting that he's perpetually bitter and grouchy.

I like Ales Kot. I don't mind that he's pretentious, and I applaud him for being ambitious. Even when he tries to make a masterpiece but fails and makes a piece of crap, I find his failure endearing, like the down-on-his-luck underdog in a movie who can't catch a break.

I'm fine with Kate Leth. I don't read anything she does, but she never offended me either. It's astonishing, the amount of hate I see heaped on her for, say, trying and dropping Batman. At least she tried.

I think that Bendisspeak hasn't been funny in years. Additionally, many of you would be surprised how easy it is to simply drop his comics instead of obsessing over how he's RUINED EVERYTHING FOREVER this week.

Here on 4chan, the right is worse than the left. I might feel differently if I was on some other website, but I'm here, and that's how it is. The radical right already won here, it's the supermajority, and it's just petty to see daily threads attacking the left as if "SJW" "invasions" even stood a chance.

>>84839755
Voilà

>>84838845
>cannot be enjoyed by new readers
As a new reader who read that stuff I say you're full of shit.

>>84838845
The only golden and silver age stuff I really like are jack coles stuff, siegel/swan silver age stories with superman and most of the stuff from EC

A Bug's Life is the only Lasseter-directed Pixar movie I enjoy.

>>84840549
This. If anyting it's the newer comics that are hard tp read for newbies. Self contained stories don't exsit anymore. I just picked up the "rebooted" Amazing Spider Man comics after having not read any of the Superior SM stuff and by the 5th issue, I have to say I'm not feeling it. Who the fuck is Prowler? What happened to the F4? Where is MJ? Where is Gwen? Why is Peter suddenly Tony Stark? Why is Doc Ock a British robot?
Why the fuck did they call it "#1" if I have to look up everything on google if I want to have the slighest idea of what is happening

Same for DC's "Rebirth" shit

DC is better than Marvel by only just a hair.

The only reason they don't change Superman's race or gender is because the trinity and many of the leaguers have become something other than characters. They're untouchable and that legitimately makes them boring to everyone other than long time DC fans. You can see that they wanted to do what Marvel does, but they only introduced a tiny bit. They straight up made Wally black in Nu52, it wasn't even like a Miles Morales/Legacy thing. They're still trying to push out another Black bat-family character, they hooked up Babs and Luke, they're pushing out a Chinese Superman. All of these would be replacements, not because they 'respect' the original characters because they literally cant touch the original characters.

When was the last time Superman, Batman, or Wonder Woman had an arc that actually changed the character in any lasting way? Superman lost his fucking powers and now hes just back to normal. Batman became a god and now hes back to normal.

>>84839201
Doing it right now tbqh senpai.

>>84840482
>I think Alan Moore comes off as friendly and affable in person and on camera, so folks should get a clue instead of only reading his textual interviews and insisting that he's perpetually bitter and grouchy.

Actually he's very friendly and upbeat even in print interviews as long as certain well-tread topics aren't brought up.

>>84840223
I don't get the hate for this episode. Yeah it's light and goofy and comedic, but there's nothing wrong with that every once in a while.

The comic book industry is crashing because it's oriented to only three groups: capeshit faggots, casuals and reddit hipsters. There isn't a middle point between silly wacky capeshit and totally serious spooky edgy drama.

Image is just a faux-Vertigo that isn't doing anything worthy of a classic Vertigo book (pushing the boundaries of comic narrative or treating taboo themes). They may be 'progressive' but that doesn't mean nothing when The Sandman was treating harsher themes with less political bias 25 years ago.

>>84840482
>Here on 4chan, the right is worse than the left. I might feel differently if I was on some other website, but I'm here, and that's how it is. The radical right already won here, it's the supermajority, and it's just petty to see daily threads attacking the left as if "SJW" "invasions" even stood a chance.
I really think that 4chan does that because of ironic purposes.

I love everything Bendis has done and think he's the best writer of the last 20 years.

You can't say the animation for the Killing Joke is bad while saying the animation of B:TAS is good without being incredibly hypocritical.

Eh, I got The Flash silver age omnibus and enjoyed it.

>>84841124
I feel similarly. My only real problem is that this shouldn't have been the introduction episode to someone from the Rogue's Gallery, let alone someone who already has difficulty being taken seriously.

>>84841209
I didn't have any issues with the animation with the Killing Joke. I figured there would be things people would take issue with; I didn't think the animation would be one of them.

The Comics Code fucked up the industry so badly that even now it is still suffering from the after effects, and the industry will probably never fully recover.

A lot of comic books border on fan fiction quality.

>>84841209
Mask of the Phantasm has way better animation though and you can't exactly compare a movie to an animated series

The Flash Rebirth was good in spite of it's retcons.

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>>84840482

>>84841209
Of course you can. The animation in B:TAS is different from the shit in TKJ.

>>84841360
This is the majority opinion, not the unpopular one.

The unpopular one would be "the Comics Code was necessary and improved American comics as a whole", but nobody under 70 actually believes that.

>>84841361
>unpopular

>>84841709
It's popular to say that, but when you start pointing out the specific comics it becomes controversial.

CCA wasn't that big of a deal.

>>84839201
I think they're actually jerking off to her even more.

4chan is the most wretched hive of scum and villainy ever, so don't be surprised.

>>84841816
So point them out.

>>84841906

Thats true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaPf-MRKITg

>>84841858
I strongly disagree. Private prisons are a serious and growing problem, and inserting the profit motive into the justice system only perverts the very processes meant to safeguard our rights.

>>84839755
It's impossible by the nature of the board, /co/ is pretty populous, and despite being full of people who honestly belong in tumblr (and a bunch of them in /pol/), it's stil contrarian enough that most given opinions on any subject will be well represented, even if it's just for trolling.

>>84841952
I am just going to say it implies that I think at least half of DC Rebirth is crappy fan fiction... and I am sure that is unpopular at this point.

>>84841982
kek

>>84841816
It's easy: anything plebs like you enjoy is fan fiction, anything sophisticates like myself enjoy is literature.

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>>84839449
I got choice words for you: Shut the Fuck up Boco. And go back to that corner you shit in!

>>84842273
For most heroes it's not wanting to be branded a vigilante. You engage in vigilantism, the government starts coming after you, and most supers aren't powerful enough to tell the government to fuck off.

The Killing Joke was a bad comic and it made a bad animation. I'm tired of all the rape and death in cape comics. It's too fucking grim for me.

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/aco/ is the greatest thing to ever spawn from /co/

>>84842725
Here's an unpopular opinion: the Internet is full of limitless porn of endless variety. If I want to jerk off I can go find that.

I don't need comics sexed up to enjoy them, and I feel like I'm the only person on /co/ who can read a story without wanting to jack it to every female character.

>>84842725
That you, Morriganal?

>>84840549
Yeah, some of that stuff is still really good. I mean, there are bad issues and bad comics too, but are we really gonna say that's not a problem now?

>>84842906

Well now it's become some sort of moronic political movement where if you don't think every women should be drawn in sexy poses in every panel you're some sort of sex-hating cuckold.

Apparently context is irrelevant at this point.

>>84843153
meh, extremes exist on both sides.

>>84843419

I mean on 4chan specifically.

>>84843459
oh, sure then.

>>84838896
And then what? It's bad enough when they come here.

At least people talk about the comics instead of screaming "KEK" or "BLACKED" every five seconds.

>>84842725
But it didn't - it spawned from /d/.

Both Jason Todd and Stephanie Brown have tons of potencial untouched and should not be considered bad characters.

Bad writers make characters look bad.

>>84838845
People who read comics are generally in 1 of 3 categories:
>The obsessive nerd who will read anything with their favorite character in it.
>The pretentious 2cool4u tool
>The guy who reads to get a better understanding/influence for art and story

AT is a boring mess that got by because it was the first decent thing CN had aired since 2006. It was meh at first, now, as another anon once put it, it's "Why are you even trying?" garbage

Home Movies is fucking awful and you know it. Even if you're stoned off your ass, it still manages to piss you off at how bad it is

South Park lost its charm after Imagination Land. Even the most recent season was boring as Hell and only really got by because they went after "duh Ess Jay Dubyas"

ATLA was ok. Even as a kid I didn't care enough to watch the first season. Maybe the first few episodes and the series finale. Didn't feel like I had missed out on not watching anything and had no desire to understand why certain things happened. God tier waifus though

Family Guy was at its peak from its return to about 2009. Pre-cancellation was terrible minus a few episodes

>>84847997
I just read for amusement
I only read fun books

I find the legend of Korra better than Avatar the last air bender

>>84840482
I'm glad the right won.

>>84845621
>bad writers make characters looks bad

for every character someone happens to hate for an arbitrary reason

>>84839755
Marvel is actually a well run and thoughtfully managed company that produces well structured, long-planned, and purposeful storylines that always stay true to the canon of their narrative's past.

>>84849163
How about Iron Man changing into a black woman?
Diversity quotas are fine when they ACTUALLY create new characters, but writing off originals is errorneously dumb as fuck.

>>84849237
>Turning Stark who fucks everything up and kinda sucks as a character into a brown teenage girl
why not?

>>84849327
I felt that decision was completely sudden and out of place. Now, Captain America's sendoff was rightful, as Rogers was getting old. But I never heard of a backstory where a literally who was inspired enough to fit into a Iron Man suit. Differences aside, she looks cute, too.

>>84838845
>instant cameras
Ah yes, the device which became outmoded during your very lifetime. Truly an anachronism in this modern, civilized era.

Bendis isn't that bad

>>84849473
besides being absolutely retarded I like how he tells stories
Uncanny X-Men wasn't the worst thing in the world even though it kinda was

>>84849473
I actually like his work a lot, I honestly can't see what all the online bitching is about.
Most of the complaints could apply to any comics writer.

I liked the New 52 Suicide Squad.

>>84841982
>he thinks the state cares about justice

>>84840847
>Everything must be rebooted from the scratch every time goes I want to read

>>84849778
It's mediocre at best

>>84849163
This. Even though /co/ doesn't like the shit they publish, it can't be denied that Marvel respects their history more than DC who can't stop rebooting shit and then admitting they fucked up. Besides, they plan in the long term.

Part 1 of 3

Most Muslims are not as cute and quirky as Kamala. In fact Kamala is more of the "token white Muslim" partially because of her writer G. Willow Wilson more than a Pakistani Muslim and the fear of creating an unsafe character.They are Muslim in title only, not observant/secular. Because of this it is highly unlikely or impossible for her to come to terms with the positives or negatives of being a muslim in society, both her own and the outside world.

The only Pakistani muslim that could sell right now is Malala Yousafzai but most muslims see her as "problematic" especially Wilson and by extension Anat even though she is Pakistani but no longer an observant muslim because her existence and struggles can paint Islam in a negative light.

>>84850024
Part 2 of 3

To actually be a observant Muslim (as secular as one can be) but also a person who works for the same ideals of traditional heroism/human decency, especially someone that would renounce the destructive ideologues of Islam is too much of a trial even in real life. Kamala does not have that character to face that hardship, in fact when they tried to have Kamala have a Malala moment when confronting her local imam about actual misogynistic teachings and actions that were going on in her local area, she just cried in a corner and left without sticking up for her ideals.

To actually show that Islam has problems especially with women goes against the "progressive" ideology that has taken over Marvel. That is why for as much as she was originally lorded as a "Muslim superhero", she really hasn't been shown being that. At best she's a dime a dozen tumblr fangirl trope but with a Pakistani Brown finish versus the neon rainbow we expect from tumblr.

>>84850038

Part 3 of 3

By doing so Marvel/Wilson hope to project the idea that most muslims are the "wacky paki" variety like Kamala who at most appearances act more like the stereotypical maniac pixie dream girl seen in Caucasian teenagers (at least through the eyes of Tumblr/Deviantart/LiveJournal stereotypes).

To subvert this they do have Kamala's family show some issues with Islam. Aamir being hypocritical liar and manipulator that uses Islam as an excuse for his horrible behavior and the family being against cultural miscegenation to keep their Islamism non-tainted. The problem isn't that this is shown, in fact it is something that I applaud showing some negatives of Islam versus not showing it at all. The problem is that our main protagonist, Kamala Khan is supposed to be against this type of thinking and knowing full well that this is a problem in her family and her society as a whole does nothing. I'm not saying she has to fix this across the world but when she won't even speak out against negative behavior at home shows that she is a very disingenuous person and the only appeal to her is the cutesy escapism of her book. This is another reason why the book fails even to help "muslims" be seen as positive role-models as well. It shows that all you need is "cutesy quirk" and soapbox sophistry to get by in life.

>>84845621
>Bad writers make characters look bad.
Truer words have never been spoken.

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>>84838845
> Instant cameras
> A relic
Fuck you. Instant cameras were a miracle of modern science.

>>84850060

EX: Summary

Kamala for all of her "CUTE!", is everything wrong with creating a hero to appeal to a demographic, especially Muslims. Her actions are counterproductive in teaching anybody to relate to her and/or take her seriously on her values or beliefs.

Kamala's being boils down to this. When it comes time for you to stand up against the problems plaguing your society, just let it happen and never step up to be the change you believe in. It's apathy in the worst form and the only thing that is saving her is that she has not become an apologist for any form of radicalized behavior from Inhumans, Mutants, and/or other Muslims yet. Now if she had some form of internal struggle with this then it could be a poigant piece of her identity but instead she just mopes about it or it is deceptively laughed off but never addressed. It creates a mindset that these ideas are set in stone for herself, her family, and by extension the Muslim community and cannot be changed for better and only worse. I know people would say that this is an struggle of itself but Kamala is propped up to have much more willpower and charisma then the average angst ridden teenager, in and outside the Ms. Marvel identity. It just comes off hollow that we don't get to see the Kamala that is lorded about but a safe but overall pointless facsimile of it.

In the end she is Muslim by name only and by doing so is in fact a token character. This is not to say that her entire character has to revolve around her being Pakistani or Muslim but it seems that when it does come around into that category, the story is toothless and overall trite. When she's doing any arc outside of the above it's just wacky fangirl adventures with little to no plot and angst melodrama. Now I know this is for the teens but do we have to settle for Degrassi style schlock every time we want a "relate-able teen story"?

>>84838845
Mark Millar is a good writer and I find pretty much everything he writes at least enjoyable. I would go as far as saying that he's the most consistent "blockbuster" type writer (Johns, Bendis, etc.). Even more so now that he's going through a lighthearted phase and has largely abandoned his edgy tales.

Continuity is important in superhero comic books because what the characters lived through is what makes them what they are. Without those experiences they're not characters, they're just concepts. And concepts are not what people invest their time for in these characters. In any case, if a writer thinks continuity is an hindrance, they should write their own characters instead. Besides, it's not an hindrance at all, it's just a tool. It's there if you want to use it, but you don't have to be slavish of it. What makes characters like Batman, Superman or Spider-Man stand from the rest is the fact that they're a collaborative effort by hundres of writers through the ages. There's quite nothing like it in fiction.

>>84838957
Accurate. If you're still reading Big 2 after the age of 18, you have a problem.

>>84840887
>Superman lost his fucking powers and now hes just back to normal.

He's not even the same guy anymore. What the fuck are you talking about ? And did you just say Batman is legitimately boring to anyone who isn't a longterm DC fan? That's not an unpopular opinion, that's just wrong on a factual level

>>84850121
To add to what you are saying, I think Miles Morales falls into the same token category to a lesser extent. I dislike how the new characters Marvel pushes for the sake of diversity are written as basically white characters with a coat of ethnicity slapped on. It's controversy for the sake of controversy rather than social progress despite what everyone's individual opinions may be

I just watched most of Young Justice for the first time and I just don't get it
why do people like it? it's not very fun at all

Eddie Brock's Venom is a great character

I'm happy with Cyborg being on the Justice League. He adds a completely new skill set and element to the team. Martian Manhunter is to powerful to be with the league as writers had to nerf him constantly.

I also think that the people who say "Cyborg should stay with the Teen Titans" Represent everything wrong with the comic industry

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Neither Marvel nor DC produce anything worth reading (and the last time either did so was the 80s). Their "best" characters are just 2 dimensional in a setting full of 1 dimensional characters.
Any adult who reads them when so much superior content is readily available I generally assume to be a sperg who can't let go of their childhood.

>>84850263
Seconded, how is this even controversial?

>>84850289

No Indie publisher will ever match Vertigo at it's peak

LoK was more captivating than ATLA and in the end I'd be more likely to recommend book 2-4 of LoK over the entirety ATLA

Homestuck's ending was satisfying

Teen Titans Go has good joke execution. Going in knowing the characters are intentionally bastardized while retaining the traits that made them them in the last animated incarnation of them makes for an entertaining show to idly watch when nothing else is on. It feels like what Johnny Test was trying to be, but it succeeds where Johnny Test failed so miserably

Uncle Grandpa is a good show that doesn't deserve the hate it gets

Steven Universe has some of the most compelling designs in any cartoon, but its animation detracts from the quality of those designs

My Life As A Teenage Robot is a garbage show with garbage animation and doesn't deserve any praise. It, as a series, was more disappointing than Danny Phantom's finale

Sam is a more compelling Nova than Rich

>>84850307
people on /co/ say he's a shit character all the time

>>84838845
I don't like Blackest Night. Think it's one of the worst crossovers I've ever read.

>>84850321
People on /co/ keep telling me to not read comics.
So I don't think people on /co/ know what they're talking about.

>>84850355
Everyone knows comics are a shit hobby with no payoff

>>84850227
>not even the same guy anymore
Literally the same character from a previous reboot. Distinctions like that only matter to spergs.

>>84840482
Agreed on pretty much all accounts. It's probably a result of this website exaggerating everything so much that it becomes just obnoxious.

>>84849984
>Marvel
>respecting their past
Other than Ewing, there's nobody who has the respect for continuity. Everything Bendis writes is full of stupid continuity mistakes and technically a reboot.

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>>84850312
Fanta and Humanoids put out better stuff than Vertigo ever did. Vertigo was entry-level "so deep" shit thats literary enough to get accolades, but juvenile enough to keep capeshit autismos interested.

>>84850289
You're just memeing considering that DC's best time was 80s and 90s.

>>84850405
>Fanta

Ha! Eat shit

Current DC has about the same amount of good books as current Marvel.

Most of the Rebirth titles are mediocre boring shit.

I like "edgy" comics and characters and I'll never understand why /co/ is so averse to violent shit. I find it entertaining and cathartic most of the time.

Status quo and characterfags are the cancer killing superhero comics.

>>84850405
>entry-level "so deep" shit thats literary enough to get accolades, but juvenile enough to keep capeshit autismos interested
That's exactly how I define Fantagraphics after seeing over a dozen capeloving manchildren get into their offerings, so I guess you're right after all.

>>84850466

I like edgy comics. I only take issue when writers try and edge up characters that don't lend themselves to it. I don't want to read edgy Flash comics but any Punisher story that isn't Max isn't worth reading

>>84838845
I don't have anything against the status quo in comics being changed. I don't mean that as a general thing like 'eh fucking comic books and their status quo, amirite guys?' I mean that I actually don't have a problem with Femwolverine, Femthor, Superior Spiderman, etc. The only changes I don't like are ones that I think are done in a bad way, like most of the nu52, but even there not everything.

>>84839587
It's supposed to mean someone who dislikes something solely because it's popular. Which is an incredibly common thin here.

>>84838845
I like anime and manga

>>84838845
Golden and silver age comics are amazing because of their unrestrained abstraction. I doubt superhero comics will ever reach the same level of narrative purity.

12 oz Mouse is the greatest piece of cartoon storytelling.

Steven Universe is a good show that could be great if they toned down on the preachy LGBT themes and got rid of Sadie and Lars.

Mr. Enters later videos are still pretty shit but he is atleast getting better.

Certain live action shows should be freely discused here as long as they appeared on a cartoon channel. (Mr. Rogers, Eric Andre, etc)

>>84838845
Whether we like it or not, AoS is canon.

Emperor's New Groove might be the funniest Disney film, and I think it's the most underrated as well.

BvS is dumb and stupid, and very enjoyable but the constant threads about the movie have been the worst thing to happen to /co/ in years. The kino meme is also really terrible.

WALL-E is the best Pixar film, it also has the best moment in any Pixar movie (the dance in space).

Manga IS comic books.

Pax Americana and Dark Night: A True Batman Story are the best comics to have been released this decade.

I think the X-Men should be in a different universe from the main Marvel characters.

The Fleischer and Curt Swan versions of Superman are the definitive versions of the character.

I'm looking forward to Toy Story 4.

Zack Snyder really needs to stop doing interviews.

Kaptain Kristian is my favourite /co/ related YouTuber.

I will never, for the life of me, watch a video by Chris-Chan. I will continue to read of his exploits though.

Stop motion is the best form of animation.

>>84850910
>I think the X-Men should be in a different universe from the main Marvel characters.
Marvelshill spotted.

>>84850971
What?

>>84838845
>Golden and Silver Age comics have aged to the point where they cannot be enjoyed by new readers

Y'know what's interesting? This opinion seems to only be shared by comics readers. When I show people who don't read comics any of my Golden/Silver Age reprints they have no problem with them.

>>84850684
It's supposed to mean "oh no, someone dares to dislike a popular thing I like, better call them contrarian" so fuck off.

>>84849778
>60,000 people die in the first two issues
>zero consequences
I feel insulted.

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Keit-ai is hilarious. Better than Baneposting.

>>84838845
Alright, here it goes.

> Bendisspeak is something that can legitimately work and be a source of comedy. However, the only way it works is if the artist and writer is not lazy.
> Cyclops has made quite a few morally questionable if not down right amoral choices in the last few years.The fact that he is a fuck-up what has drawn me to him for a long time actually
> I don't mind affirmative action legacy characters, so long as they are established in universe and that their previous cast is still used.
> I honestly think that Alan Moore is completely right about the comic industry's writers and artists.
> The Inhumans have a massive amount of potential in the Marvel Universe.
> Jeff Lemire should never have written comics.
> Edgy Chaotic Evil villains can work in comics.
> The movie of Killing Joke was not terrible, although I felt that it missed that ultimately, the movie was a reconstruction of Batman.

>>84850910
>Emperor's New Groove might be the funniest Disney film
It's a shared first place with Sword in The Stone.

>>84851400
>Jeff Lemire should never have written comics
Never? Not a single attempt? Damn, that's harsh.

Perez's Wonder Woman is shit

>>84851433
It's an unpopular opinion. I mean, I know that there are people who enjoy his work, but I honestly feel that whenever I read any of his work, there is so much potential wasted and that he is a stereotypical fanboy who only likes writing 'Cool shit' and ignores Lore to do so.

Also>>84851400
should have said
> the comic was a reconstruction of Batman.

>>84850227
Batman is boring. You would think that becoming Metron would leave him with something interesting. Take Cyclops, he got imbued with an almighty force, now he's Rightclops. Batman can't be anything else other than Batman. People would honestly be ok with Batman killing if so more of his core character hasn't been set in fucking diamond. Even Morrison could barely change him, he only popularized a concept that was already a meme (Batgod) and he basically changed all of X-Men forever in one run. Hell, he killed him just to do interesting stuff with his supporting characters.

The Loud House is an overrated piece of garbage. The only reasons people watch this show is for the waifus which I think is a dumb reason to watch it. The Loud House feels like what happens when you throw ever since Nick shows cliche and turn it into a show. Asshole characters check, Toilet Humor check, bad parenting check, hell Lincoln looks like the love child of spongebob and timmy turner.

>>84851263
No, it's not. Looks like is struck the right nerve.

>>84840027
People love him here. I read a conversation once about how shitting on Mignola is "simply not done", both because of his work and his utter niceness.

Ok here goes nothing

> I hate every CN show that is not Samurai Jack and maybe Steven Universe (Idk at this point I'm losing interest in the show)

>I hated Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated due to cynical townspeople and the stupid Shaggy X Velma stuff (seriously nothing in the previous shows showed any chemistry between them)

> I hate every since Hasbro show due to Hasbro throwing LPS 2012 (which lost it charm after near the end of season 3 and onwards), lack of quality in shows and toys, and it's rabid and annoying fandom

>South Park became shit to me once The Return of Chef happened and especially when season 19 happened

> Disney is creative bankrupt and I believe there creative spawns from having a bookshelf and throwing darts at the books

>All the Fox Animated Shows (minus Bob's Burgers since I haven't watched it) are all horrible and disgusting and is everything that is wrong with adult animation

>I hate Nick due to The Loud House, Milking Spongebob and The Fairly Oddparents, The Loud House, shitty Dan Schneider shows, that fucking Legends of the Hidden Temple movie (FUCKING YOU NICK), The Loud House, dropping The Modifiers for Tuff Puppy and Planet Sheen, AND THE FUCKING LOUD HOUSE!

> I hated Star Vs The Force of Evil once the changed the animation studio and the writing got bad

DC/Vertigo are the only publisher of good comics
Indie comics suck
Most cartoons are boring
Sandman is the best comic ever and nothing will ever change that

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TKJ has shown me something. People see or want to see Batman as simply this personification of pain and anger who aimlessly takes out his own on degenerates and the mentally ill with no end.

To echo and paraphrase elements of Nolan's TDK society thinks someone deserves to be punished more than problems need to be solved.

Moore's been misled into belief he put upon Joker and Batman something unnatural, looking at the desire for grimmer depictions at all one has to recognize the Batman written and read as merely searching for legally excusable victims to brutalize apathetically before retreating to the safety of his mansion reflects an innately dark psychology.

He and many others who assume Watchmen, TKJ and TDKR are somehow responsible for the responsibilities of others confuse observation with influence.
"violent video games make children violent" over a logical conclusion "violent children play violent video games"
Moore and Miller simply wrote their own piece, and in both cases in a contained scenario so they had no intentions outside that. Everything after is the intentions of everyone after.

More on, the best written Batman is as skilled with his mind as his fist and his investigative skills extend to not just solving a crime but being able to fathom criminal minds to succeed where society fails.

To me that if anything is his power. Too often is his wit reserved to shallow plot contrived preptime. The substance of his rogues gallery is in the chemistry produced when Bruce works outside the limits of law to stop people like Freeze, the Ventriloquist, Selina, Dent and so on by figuring out what started their ills. Of course because that would mean the end of selling regurgitated bolus to ignorants and amnesiacs it simply is not feasible.

Instead now Batman, as far as some CCOs are concerned, is the perpetually brooding, needlessly disagreeable, powerless Justice League member who causes tension or trouble for the sake of it.

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Steven Universe has the ugliest character design I've ever seen.

Steven Universe has the most debased world building I've ever seen.

Steven Universe has the worst voice acting in a cartoon I've ever heard.

Steven Universe has the most annoying fanbase I've ever been exposed too.

Steven Universe is the worst cartoon ever, period.

Women and the beta faggots who enable them have ruined the print industry worse than the 90's did.
Every single woman working in the comics industry is a raging liberal SJW puke and untalented hacks that are virtue signaling hires.

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>>84838845
I'm looking forward to Suicide Squad.

>>84851996
How has The Killing Joke shown you this? Batman barely appears in it and even refuses to beat Joker up in the end. Also get your head stick out your ass and say what you want to say in one simple sentence: I want to see Batman use his mind more. I agree with that, but for fuck's sake, stop writing paragraphs upon paragraphs to make you feel like less of a stupid idiot.

>>84839449
They've literally been making her ugly since Alien Force.

I bet you must've had a field day during the UAF and Omniverse eras.

>>84852034
OP said Unpopular opinions, not popular ones

New cartoons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Old cartoons

>>84850314
Lok's Book 2 was fucking horrendous. Even book 1 was better than that shit.

I think everyone agrees that My Life as a Teenage Robot was terrible but are only in it for the waifus.

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>>84839168
This. How hard is it to do research on the occult , base almost all of your characters and story lines on actual folk tales , and throw your 1 dimensional protagonist into the middle and your a Lovecraft level horror master

>>84841982
>I know about CCA. And they're more laid bacc than actual prison

>>84854041
Bollocks. I'll take Looney Tunes over Steven Universe any day.

Steven Universe is overrated garbage.

Star Vs The Forces of Evil is overrated garbage.

Kai Green was the best Love Interest for Ben 10

The Loud House is overrated garbage.

The Fairly Odd Parents was only good from 2003 to 2006 and anything before or after that was complete trash imo

The Killing Joke movie was quite enjoyable actually.

Bruce x Barbara isn't that bad.

Zootopia is overrated garbage.

Pixar was always garbage even before Brave, MU, The Good Dinosaur, and whatever else caused Pixar to fall in the eyes of fans.

Blue Sky >>>> DreamWorks>>>>> Shit>>>>>>>Disney>>>>>>Pixar

>>84850227
>my opinion is fact

>>84854449
>A dog fucker is the best Ben 10 love interest

Whatever you say, Sam Humphries.

>>84854449
In short, you think everything is overrated garbage

I didn't think The Ghost Busters movie was all that bad

I actually liked Monster's University more than Monster's Inc.

The Sonic Adventure Games were when Sonic was at his peak.

>>84854799
>The Sonic Adventure Games were when Sonic was at his peak

I don't think anyone disagrees there anon.

>>84841209
What a dumb thing to say. They're animated by entirely different teams.

>>84847997
The 3rd category is make believe for people who want to think highly of themselves while reading comics.

>>84840482
>how easy it is to simply drop his comics

This. Bendis actually gets a kick out of how much we hate him.

Bojack Horseman is a shitty show.

>"B-but you need to have depression to understand it!"

Oh fuck off. Your sad horse show is almost as pretentious as Evangelion. Just because the horse fucks up constantly and makes sad faces, doesn't make it deep. I'd probably take it more seriously if it had decent animation this shit looks worse than family guy.

I don't like Samurai Jack. Every time it was on when I was on I would change the channel to Nick

>>84855898
>muh animation
Oh, you're one of THOSE guys.

>>84838845
Steven Universe is ugly and childish and I did not enjoy any episode

>>84838845
Animation is more important than story.

I actually enjoy Golden Age comics more than modern comics, most of the time

They don't pretend to be deep, and they're about as good as general pulp fiction, like the Shadow

>>84849940
Way to miss the point, you dumbass.

>>84838845
Unpopular opinion threads are useless and are created by contrarian morons who want to validate their idiotic ideas through an echo chamber.

>>84861938
That's actually a factual opinion

>>84838845
I unironically think the director's cut of BvS is a 9/10 and that Justice League looks fantastic.

>>84854124
book 1 had a better "big bad" but given half of the book was degrassi-level teen drama i put it under book 2. book 2 stayed pretty consistent in quality and i liked the fact that korra's naivety and stubborn-ness got her caught up in a war she didn't see coming, and desperately tried to prevent