I have to say that the movie is too mean towards prince John.

>>84779417
>He's way too pathetic and non-threatening
I saw the movie again on Netflixa while back. While he's clearly immature, and seems ineffectual at first, he has moments of cunning at times, that make the heroes who get sloppy of underestimate him unexpectedly get into deep shit. The most prominent examples were, I would say, the Archery competition, when he deduces that the Stork is Robin Hood without Hiss telling him, and without actually seeing Robin Hood under the costume the way Hiss did. And later, he's ruthless enough that he starts taxing the Nottingham peasants enough that they get arrested for not being to pay it, and has them all imprisoned. Ultimately, he may have been a big baby, but he got everything that was coming to him.

>>84779518
Think back to the beginning of the movie. It opens with Prince John being scammed and humiliated by bandits, which leads him to unleashing the sheriff upon them. He's not given the chance to act prior to this, even the narrator picks sides against him. The idea that prince John is awful and unjust is derived from biased accounts by characters who haven't met him before, and what follows is John attempting to retaliate for the endless ridicule and actual crimes commited against him (why isn't anyone mad at Robin for creating this mess?!). He has an excuse, but the sheriff's unrestrained cruelty and violence has none.

>when he deduces that the Stork is Robin Hood
(People who think like) Children are quick to see the obvious.

>>84779417
Him being a pathetic loser doesn't stop the fact that he's a selfish prick.

>>84779903
One of his first lines is talking about how he schemed with Hiss to usurp the throne from his brother.

>>84780099
The Lionheart was one of the worst kings in this nation history, fuck the church for writing him as a good king, not to say John was much better though.

>>84780099
Consider that one of the romanticised qualities of the protagonists of the movie is revolutionary behavior and defying authorities. At the same time, the movie doesn't provide the audience with enough context to infer whether John was an exceptionally bad ruler or not. John's greatest sin is that he's illegitimate, unlike Richard who only makes such a brief appearance that he's able to dodge criticism (although he is actually at fault for having been absent).

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>>84779417
>non-threatening
Someone didn't have a peek at the alternate ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULpcSWqC3TA

So NOW you realize this Disney classic is overrated garbage?

Glad you finally dropped these nostalgia glasses.

>>84782047

This movie would be better with that ending! what stopped them?! Or who?

>>84779417
So just like real life, then.

>>84782226
>what stopped them?! Or who?
The eternal anglo strikes again.