IT WAS JUST SEX, FOR GOD'S SAKE

Does it count as /co/ agreeing with tumblr if the reason we dont like it is difrent

>>84770313
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I FELT VIOLATED BARBARA

>>84770313

pure shakespeare

The need for rape must run in the family.

>>84770394
Either way, it's dumb as fuck

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>>84770581
Needs an edit

The butthurt is hilarious.

The icing is seeing people who criticized Ghostbusters fans who didn't like the reboot getting angry at TKJ.

Fucking karma.

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Bruce. Thanks for picking Dick and me up from high school. Now let's head to the roof and have sex for god's sake.

>>84771130
>The icing is seeing people who criticized Ghostbusters fans who didn't like the reboot getting angry at TKJ.

Explain this to me like I had no idea what you're talking about.

tfw she already played this Batgirl in '95

>>84771322
forgot link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt0nlWEW368

>>84771194
He's an insecure shitposter trying to string his delusions together.

>>84771194
There were some people who mocked GB fans that didnt like the reboot using the manbaby/dudebro memes acting all smug. Once they saw the sex scene they started losing their shit looking like cry babies. Was just a funny thing to see yesterday.

>>84770394
/co/ is tumblr. Why would they disagree with themselves?

>>84770313

no means no

>>84772298
>>>/v/

>>84771131

If she's wearing a skirt and knee socks, I would not say no.

>>84772298
/co/ is /co/, it most certainly will disagree with itself.

>>84772352
>>>/tumblr/

Nvm you're already here

Can we ever get a Barbara, that, I don't know, loves Dick as she has for years in the comics?

Jesus fucking christ, Batman already has enough women pining after him. Why does Dick need to suffer so much?

>>84772400
Fuck off, faggot.

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Did Bruce have any bat-condoms?

He was prepared right?

>>84771550
So should I like the scene now? I don't even care about the GB movie (or franchise) but I hated on it just to bother people, is this the same?

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Commissioner Gordon has no tolerance with rapists FOR GODS SAKE!

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>>84772449
>Fuck off, faggot.
Triggered as always

>She will never lick your ass.

>>84772530
How long have you even been on 4chan? /co/ has been friendly and sensitive since at least 2008.

>>84772476
It's ok, she's not pregnet. I checked.

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>>84771131
Women and men are not equivalents. A chick being 18 doesn't mean you get to bang her when you are 18.

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Gordon! You have to rape Bat-Woman!

>>84772565
STOP THE PRESSES

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>>84772476
Unless of course he logically deduced that Barbara was the perfect person with which to sire a child who could continue the Batman mantle after he died.

I mean, she IS pretty smart, and very athletic too. Her genes and his would create a pretty beastly human being.

>>84770313
at least the art style in killing joke animation was better than that.

>>84772530
It's not even being triggered at this point. What honestly possesses you guys to go into these threads and call everything tumblr? Who's the one that's honestly triggered here?

Just because /co/ is reasonably less edgy and, god forbids, actually discusses what the board is about doesn't mean it's tumblr.

Now, kindly fuck off back to /v/ where I'm sure you've got a /pol/-bait thread waiting.

Is the Joker a hero for punishing the person who raped his best buddy Batman?

>>84770394
I actually liked it, so both /co/ and tumber can go fuck themselves.no it does not count as agreement, I have often given shitty books 1 star rating that had nothing to do with sexism or " having too many characters" or whatever other complaints sjw wrote in their reviews

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>>84772663

nature vs nurture

>>84772603
there is actually a from of socialism were the older you get the more free stuff you get, thus life is shit for all young people.There is a country were according to tradition everyone has to be married at all times, thus there are a lot of cases of old ladys and old men getting young husbands and wives

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Who is truly at fault

>>84772449
>Can we ever get a Barbara, that, I don't know, loves Dick as she has for years in the comics?
No!? I mean it would take some setup.I do think they were together in young justice
>Batman already has enough women pining after him
implying this are different for dick
>Why does Dick need to suffer so much?
she is not even his main girl. you need to consider batgirls feelings

>>84772942
You just know there's an alternate timeline where she wasn't CRIME ABORTED, and where she kept the baby. We're gonna see Ginger Damian in the next Crisis.

>>84770313
Do we have a high quality webm of that scene yet?

>>84770313
What's going on now? I'm not up to date on things I should be angry about.

>>84772742

no one hurts his buddy but him

>>84772449
>Can we ever get a Barbara, that, I don't know, loves Dick as she has for years in the comics?
Young Justice Babs admitted she had a crush on him, and then sat happily by as he fucked his way through every female member of the team until he reached her

>>84773140
Batgirl gets fucked by Batman in the TKJ movie, then begs for him to return her calls.

>>84772449
>Muh dick
>why can't she just fuck my self insert instead

>>84773215
>then begs for him to return her calls.

Is that what really triggered people?

>>84773215
But why?

>>84772449
Fuck off retard, literally every female character is Dick's cumsocket in these fucking comics.

>waaah muh poor Dick

Kill yourself.

>>84773276
Because Bruce Timm is a perverted hack

>>84773258
>omg why can't barbara be put in a relationship that has positively furthered her growth as a character instead of being some old geezer's self-insert fantasy

Why are people reacting so strongly to this? I don't see what the big deal is. Its not like they weren't made a couple in the past. Is it all the Dick worshipers or something?

>>84770313
This was a kino cape right

like the end scene

>>84773259
Mostly the problem is that a bunch of extra shit got added to the beginning of TKJ animated movie.

>>84773380
Because Bruce/Barb is creepy as fuck, dude.

>>84773380
back then it was weird and creepy too, but it was briefly mentioned in Batman Beyond so most people just ignored the whole "boss sleeping with his student that's half his age and is his closest friend's daughter" thing

>>84772692
kys

>>84770840

I watched this documentary and this image is actually a really gross translation of what this guy is saying. Really pathetic but whatever.

>>84773140
you should not be angry. bats and batgirl had sex and "the day after" was awkward

>>84773380
yes, apparently Dick owns characters so they should always be there for him even if he is busy fucking other people all the time

>>84773403
The fact that they were given the opportunity to make a Batman movie on a short story means they could have spent the money they used on extra sex scenes on improving the animation and even making sure they got at least the color right. But no gotta see Barbra take off her clothes and rape Batman

>>84770394
Same thing happened with HYDRA Cap.

>>84773627
barely anyone has mentioned Dick other than the people who are getting off to this

>>84773276
She felt like it.
>>84773292
seriously, things happen. you don't need to roll out your thesis on how bats betrayed jim or how he is a secretly a pedo

>>84773661
>things happen
And Batman probably could get raped in prison, but it doesn't mean it's a good story

>>84773343
>relationship that has positively furthered her growth as a character instead
like spiderman?

>>84773627
>>84773627
The color was right, faggot.

>>84773627
>rape Batman
you are a natural born collage feminist
>Batman movie on a short story
it means no one was going to give them a budget for a short story. its a short story but they had to sell it like a movie. I would have liked it to have been like DC other shorts but it did not happen.
>sex scenes
there was 29 minutes of unrelated story, even if they had started cutting Im pretty sure they could have kept the sex.

>>84773661
Just because "things happen", it doesn't mean it's not written badly. Her motivation as a character was poorly established, consisting of mainly just wanting to hook up with Batman. She's even deluded enough to tell her gay best friend how she's in a "relationship" without sex. And she goes from fighting him to randomly throwing her clothes off, and then moping about how he won't return her calls. And attacking a random man for arguing with his girlfriend.

The story was complete shit.

>>84773711
not really. getting raped in prison does not fit batman's tone. the same way an orgy would not fit in my little pony but batman is not a robot and its not impossible that he would fuck batgirl

>>84773842
Nah I said rape batman as a joke.What i am saying is they could have used the money they got to pay homage and respect to what they were trying to turn into a film and not try to add a bunch of stuff to a story that is already pretty iconic.

>>84773920
so we're just going by your narrow interpretation then?

>>84772476
She got shot in the stomach, I think it's safe to say she isn't having any babies anytime soon.

>>84773720
he probably had a shitty stream
>Her motivation as a character was poorly established, consisting of mainly just wanting to hook up with Batman.
She felt underutilized and underutilized. she failed at proving batman wrong.She likes him but is frustrated that he won't let her in.
>"relationship" without sex.
with her "yoga instructor". There other non romantic relationships that people hope will grow into romance.
>And she goes from fighting him to randomly throwing her clothes off
she was not fighting him, it was an emotional outburst, in the end she says "fuck it" and puts her cards on the tabel.
>moping about how he won't return her calls
I feeling we all had at some point. even in non sex related situations its always annoying when people won't make clear where you stand with them. What was he hoping for, that he will avoid her for few months and she will just find a new guy?

So Bruce is banging Barbara even in the animated movie universe?
Is she dating Dick during this time?

Is it up on public torrents?

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>>84772449
Taking the b8

>>84773196

That stupid YJ comic doesn't count, it read like bad fanfiction porn. Just like this terrible TKJ and Timmverse Bruce/Barbara relationship doesn't count.

>>84773016
What? Outside of Barbara and Starfire, he really doesn't have a consistent love interest. Barbara and Starfire are easily his 'main' love interests.

So how does Batman tell Gordon that Batgirl coincidentally retired right around the time Barbara got shot? Or does this just never come up? I would think Gordon or even Joker might realize she was Batgirl, especially with her voice being unchanged and her long red hair sticking out of the costume.

>>84773995
>they could have
but did they want to?

>>84774210
no, this is just timm's standalone fanfic-verse

>>84774031
can you see superman deepthroat a hooker?No?yeah its as easy to spot as that

>>84774067
>stomach
>babies
not sure if summer or just memeing

>>84772578
What's this from? I see it quoted here a bunch but know not the origin.

>>84773277
Dick:

>Barbara, sometimes, when she's not off fucking Bruce
>Starfire
>Huntress, sometimes
>Rape girl
>Sometimes literally whos who come and go

Batman:
>Catwoman
>Talia, and retconning that she 'raped' him doesn't invalidate that they were mutual originally
>Poison Ivy
>Barbara, apparently
>FUCKING WONDER WOMAN

>>84774210
>Is she dating Dick during this time?
No. I don't think its one universe but Dick is doing starfire
>Is it up on public torrents?
yes
>So Bruce is banging Barbara even in the animated movie universe?
kind of

Just a passerby. Did batgirl rape batman or something?

>>84774568
You could argue she did but they were both into it. The problem is it was just something unnecessarily added because they felt they needed to add shit

>>84774340
>So how does Batman tell Gordon that Batgirl coincidentally retired right around the time Barbara got shot?
batgirl retired earlier.she almost beat a guy to death she felt that this world was too much for her.
>specially with her voice being unchanged and her long red hair sticking out of the costume.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Nov7vSkmU

>>84774474
Can you see Superman deepthroat Supergirl?

>>84770313
What is this? What are you guys talking about?

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>>84774538
some edgy 8bit webcomic.

>>84774197
having her batgirl career center around wanting to bang batman is stupid, though, and doesn't make her a strong character

>>84774741

Why is it stupid?

Did the movie get leaked?

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>>84774692
which era? I ship it so Im biased
>>84774723
the killing joke animated movie

>>84771130
Okay but people who valued Ghostbusters '84 AND hate Bruce x Babs get TWO bad movies. Who's that karmic for?

>>84774723
>>84774794
http://worldmoviesfree.com/watch-batman-the-killing-joke-7786543349.html

>>84773508
You say that like the image exists to smear that guy or whatever. It's just an out-of-context reaction image.

>>84774741
>a strong character
that is a made up bullshit with no clear definition beyond the speakers personal preferences
>career center around wanting to bang batman is stupid
good thing that was not the case here.

>>84774874
>the image exists to smear that guy

The image exists to smear black people as raping savages all from a poorly translated piece of audio.

>>84774864
Thanks

>>84774775
For one thing, it ties her character arc to the sexual whims of her superior/boss/mentor, and her reactions to him throughout most of the story has been to wangst and act out irrationally, making her come across as immature and unlikeable.

Furthermore, it cheapens the mentor/student relationship they have, which could have made for a much stronger core for the story. She starts out young and eager to be a vigilante, seeing Batman as an inspiration, and eventually has her perception darkened when she starts to see things from his perspective. But instead, it gets muddled by what is essentially CW drama.

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I just want to point out that in the comics Babs became Batgirl because she was infatuated with Batman.

It's the whole basis for her existence.

>>84774324

Dick has Batgirl, Starfire, Huntress, Ravager, Supergirl, Power Girl and even Black Canary interested in his junk.

>>84774540

Batman has never fucked Wonder Woman, Barbara (fanfiction-tier animated bastardizations don't count), or Poison Ivy.

So that leaves Catwoman and Talia.

>>84772692
/co/ may be less edgy than a few others, but that's a low bar. Regardless, this board is easily one of the shittiest, probably in the top 10. There are so many other boards that are actually welcoming and on-topic.

And I won't even get on how this board can very much be just as bad as tumblr/reddit trash.

>>84774728
Holy autism, Batman.

>>84774949
are you implying that black people (or all people for that matter) that grow up in war torn shit holes with no human dignity are not mostly raping savages?

>>84775086

Barbara became Batgirl because she found Batman hot and thought that fighting crime was exciting. That was it.

She also wasn't young when she started. She was in college.

>>84775137
vicki vale, silver st cloud, jezebel jet, zatanna, julie madison

>>84775130
and zatanna?

>>84775130
>Ravager, Supergirl, Power Girl and even Black Canary
Definitely don't remember these ones. They weren't main love interests were they?

>>84775137
>Wonder Woman
He dated her for a while, right? They must have banged at least in Blackest Night

>Poison Ivy
They definitely had a lot of hints in a few issues, but fair enough.

And Vicki Vale, here and there.

>>84773380

Do you honestly think us Brucefags wanted this? It's garbage.

Can't wait for all the people to start referencing this just like they did that stupid Batman Beyond comic when trying to argue that Bruce is an awful person.

>>84774949
No it's not. Lurk moar.

>>84775156
What do you think is in the top 10 then? Outside of boards that have threads last for weeks /co/ is reasonably welcoming considering how big it is.

/v/ and /tv/ are just memes and shitposting, /co/ is absolutely mostly on topic.

But way to be vague and say it can be "just as bad as tumblr/reddit trash" without saying what that even fucking is.

>>84775302
>Ravager
she had a crush on him, nothing more
>Supergirl
also a crush, and is basically a little sister to him
>Power Girl
flirted a couple of times
>Black Canary
walked in on him in the shower, and once tried to get Babs to set her up, but nothing happened

>>84775302

Wonder Woman only shared a kiss in the heat of battle when they were both going to die and that was it. They decided that a relationship between teammates would be bad.

>>84775302

Bruce was dead during Blackest Night, dude...They have NEVER dated. The only time it's ever kinda happened was in that Justice League Beyond comic where Wonder Woman married the Justice Lord Batman from another Earth.

>>84775283

Yes, and Zatanna, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn and even Catwoman (Selina Kyle).

Dick has a lot of bitches wanting to fuck him.

>>84774540

>Rape girl

Who?

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>>84775415
literally from Wonder Woman Blackest Night

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>>84775396
>>84775415
Ah, I remember more happening during Blackest Night than it did.

But that means they at least feel something for each other but hold it back, right?

>>84775450
Pic very much related.

>>84775432
>Zatanna
young justice

>Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn

what

>Catwoman

she tried to toy with him to make bruce jealous, and he just played along before laughing it off

>>84775450

tarantula?
the girl who raped nightwing?

>>84775415

>The only time it's ever kinda happened was in that Justice League Beyond comic where Wonder Woman married the Justice Lord Batman from another Earth.

She only dated Justice Lord Batman, but then Justice Lord Wonder Woman killed him, forcing Wonder Woman to kill her in revenge, thus creating a war between both sides that was only resolved when Wonder Woman married Justice Lord Superman in a fake marriage.

They still fucked and had a kid, though. Not her and JL Batman, but her and JL Superman.

>>84775451

That's a dream brought together by the Star Sapphire ring.

>>84775232
This.
Too many people talking out their asses.

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>>84775450
tarantula

>>84775451

Yeah, that was a figment of her imagination. Bruce was dead, and he wasn't resurrected by the end, his body wasn't on anywhere on the current Earth. It was a huge plot point.

>>84775156
You haven't branched out into 4chan if you think this is one of the worst boards. /soc/, /cgl/, /trash/, /r9k/, /mlp/, /qst/, /vg/, and others are pure unadulterated garbage that exist purely as containment boards. /co/ will never be as bad as them purely by nature.

>>84775520

Poison Ivy tried to molest Dick several times and Harley Quinn happened recently in Grayson second annual.

>>84775543
Im still surprised that plotline was not from the 90s

>>84775583
>>84775620
But, she did want to bone him.

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>>84770313
Batgirl? fist my ass.

>>84775156
>Regardless, this board is easily one of the shittiest, probably in the top 10.

Yeah, no.

There are probably 10 weaboo boards worse than this one.

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>>84775684

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>>84775715

>>84775664

Yeah, shit was full of death, angst and NTR.

>people surprised by the Batman and Batgirl shipping in a Bruce Timm release
Do people forget these scenes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vnBk3lUuwY

>>84775232
so in other words, her story was shit

>>84772449
>loves Dick
She love's Bruce's dick.

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>>84775741

It also had the black Flash chick fall in love with a 10-year-old boy, and nobody thought it was strange at all.

>>84775768
and no one liked it back then either, except that those scenes were easier to forget

and bruce timm had nothing to do with that batwoman movie

>>84773380
1. shits on Bruce by turning him into someone who thinks with his dick and betrays his friends

2. shits on Barb by turning her into a typical high school sloot

3. shits on Dick by turning him into a cuck

Nothing good came out of this.

>>84775768
If it's Bruce Timm why does the art style look so generic?

>>84775844

Captain Marvel whole story in that book annoyed me.

Can we please not drag Dick in this mess? Does he even exist in The Killing Joke?

>>84775866
>and no one liked it back then either
I never heard anyone complain about it back then.

And in fact, I'd argue that it WASN'T creepy because she was close to Bruce's age at that time, but they de aged her later and shipped her with Dick if I remember correctly.

>>84775898
Dick's not even in this. And as far as the movie watchers are concerned, he's too busy screwing Starfire

but yeah the other two got shit on badly

>>84776003
she was Dick's age in BTAS, they went to college together

and for some reason, she was still in college several years later during the Batwoman movie, which was after TNBA

>>84770313
>A review is based only on pro-tumblr or anti-tumblr factors

How about: it was stupid and forced, because people with eyes can see?

>>84776063
>she was Dick's age in BTAS, they went to college together
I could have sworn she was older than Dick earlier in the series?

>>84775768
facts are for misogynists

>>84775950
No
Dick wasn't even mentioned in it so I don't know why people are bringing him up other than them being shipperfags
Barbara became Batgirl in this so she could fuck Batman

>>84775866
I liked it

>>84776063
>and for some reason, she was still in college several years later
too many parties

>>84775768
It was shit then too Timm
Get over the fact nobody likes your hamfisted ship

>>84776282
>Get over the fact nobody likes your hamfisted ship
Where the hell did I ever imply that I liked it, retard? It's Bruce Timm, no one should be surprised he likes the ship.

>>84774728
LETS HIT THOSE SHOWERS!!!

>>84775267
shhh those don't count

when will this bruce is pure meme die

>>84776282
Uh, well, speaking for myself, it's my OTP. I think it's hot as fuck, precisely due to the age gap. I've got a big thing for May-December romances, I like Misato/Shinji from Eva too.

>>84774797
i wonder how people would react to something like that.

>all this blathering about Bruce being Dickbats
>he is literally written as an asshole who mistreats his friends ever other year

this is my favorite dc movie because fucking everyone is asspained about it

>>84776118
too rational for /co/ to wrap their heads around

>>84776210
no you didn't

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>Babs exists in Killing Joke only to get shot so Batman can be sad
>This movie somehow makes it worse by trying to give her agency

How did they do it, /co/?

>>84773022
Holy crap do want

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>>84776282
>all these dickfags upset about bruce fucking barbara

c'mon babs is lewd as shit and batman fucks a ton of people he shouldn't all the time

>>84776712
They did it for the sake of controversy and so Timm could rub one out.
I'd be surprised if it came out good knowing the terms that it was created.

>>84776650
you sound like my mother

>>84775387
>>84775621
I said top 10, so of course I recognize there's shittier boards. For example, /lit/ is full of pretentious fucks. But you need to branch out if you somehow think /co/ is somehow even middle of the road. The majority of boards are more welcoming and friendly, albeit way more lowkey. And to be clear, I'm not implying that any of this site is good, because it's not.

The problem with this board is that it's full of too many normies (to abuse a term) because capeshit and cartoons are trendy. So you get a bunch of fucks that don't understand the culture of the site which leads to retarded in-fighting and outright ignorance. It's too often when you can spot posters that don't actually visit other boards, except for maybe /b/. There is a pretty clear sense of superiority that permeates this board so I shouldn't really be surprised, but I am quite disappointed that you're really defending /co/ this seriously.

>>84776755
Dickfags aren't upset. Babfags and Dickbabs shippers are the ones upset.

>>84775267

>Zatanna
Again, they never even dated.

>Jezebel Jet
Never liked him, only seduced him to try and kill him

>Vicki Vale, Silver St. Cloud, Julie Madison
Sure, during his 75-year tenure as a rich bachelor, he's had a few relationships with normal chicks, most of which are nameless. None of them lasting very long.

It's not like he's some kind of galactic ladykiller who has all the substantial heroines of the world after his dick, how this "every woman wants to fuck Batman" meme came to be I'll never know.

>>84776755

>batman fucks a ton of people he shouldn't all the time

No, he doesn't. Certainly not the love interests of his adopted children, and the daughter of his good friend.

>>84776163
Batgirl fans don't want her being known to audiences as Batman's fucktoy.

So they want Dick to be a regular staple of Batgirl's legacy, because Dick won't overshadow her like Batman would

>>84773380

Well it's just a bit messy and out of character for me.

The real thing that upsets me is That iwn fug babs ;_;

>>84776953
>Batman does it in some stories
>NOT MUH BATMAN
>bruce also fucks all the rogues mentioned previously
>BUT THAT DOESN'T COUNT

we get it you don't like that version of batman

it still exists and it's fine

>>84776886
>>Jezebel Jet
>Never liked him, only seduced him to try and kill him
doesnt matter had sex

>>84777002

What stories, specifically?

>>84777002
i mean, it doesn't mean it's not a shitty story though

>>84776858
>The problem with this board is that it's full of too many normies (to abuse a term) because capeshit and cartoons are trendy. So you get a bunch of fucks that don't understand the culture of the site which leads to retarded in-fighting and outright ignorance. It's too often when you can spot posters that don't actually visit other boards, except for maybe /b/. There is a pretty clear sense of superiority that permeates this board so I shouldn't really be surprised, but I am quite disappointed that you're really defending /co/ this seriously.
God forbid someone have opinions. Dude, I've been around the block on all the boards and /co/ is definitely around the middle. Yeah, you gt infighting sometimes but that's just 4chan. At least this board is passionate about its subject matter and seriously posts and discusses about it, that can't be said for /a/, /v/, /tv/, /lit/, etc.

But this board is not 'full of too many normies', whatever the fuck that means. Hate to break it to you, bud, but normies don't come on 4chan. /co/ is no exception. Just because it's not redpilled like /r9k/ and /pol/ doesn't mean it's normie.

>>84776858
If you seriously think this board is garbage, leave. Pretty simple concept.

>>84777063
>quoting that much text
>false flag
>strawman
There we go.

>>84777124
So,
>I'm not going to address anything specifically you said like you did, I'm just going to shitpost and use the latest memewords without giving any context.
Have I got that right?

>>84777002
fuck off retard, only Catwoman and Talia count

>>84777063
>redpilled

Cringe so much when I see people use this word. The Matrix movies probably came out when you were still in diapers.

>>84775093
that doesn't matter nuhmubuhmuhn

>>84777316
Redpilled is used unironically on those boards, anon.

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>>84777316
The Matrix movies probably came out when you were still in diapers.

How old are you? You sound like a pretentious little fuck.

>Written by Brian Azerello

Yeah, he's pretty hit-or-miss

>look up the sex scene online because of all the controversy, expecting it to be graphic
>it's literally nothing
holy fuck, people are pussies nowadays. Is this even technically a "sex scene"? It cuts off before any sex takes place.

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>>84770313
>IT WAS JUST SEX FOR GOD'S SAKE

>>84774728
>He checked

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>>84770313
>IT WAS JUST SEX FOR GOD'S SAKE
what did she mean by this?

>>84778408
>what did she mean by this?
she meant the fans complaining need to chill the fuck out.

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>>84774797
>You made us seem to disappear, with the help of concealed blinding lights activated by a time-mechanism.
What in the unholy fuck am I reading??

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>>84778408
They were trying to be all liberal and show that she as a female could be the same as any male and treat sex as disposable fun in our modern culture. Despite the entire notion of "equality" between genders being absolute crap it backfired on them big time.

Instead of "Oh how progressive of you guys making barbara independant and sexually empowered" they got batpedo my sides...

>add in a ton of Batgirl stuff to add impact when she gets shot
>make her an unlikable cunt so that the audience is happy to see her hurt

It was an interesting choice to make, I'll give it that.

>>84770313
>Barb gets raped by the Joker
It was just sex for God's sake!

I felt that it was forced, but if upsets /co/ and tumblrinas, it should be defended.

>>84778076
>being a qt voiced by Tara Strong
>sidesteps being Batgirl completely
>becomes Oracle without all that baggage

Where were you when Beware the Batman created the best Barbara?

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>It was just sex for God's sake!

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>>84772783
How much of a fucking fan boy do you have to be to actually like this dogshit?

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>>84778670
ARRGHERUARGLABAR!!

I gave it a 6/10, is that bad?
Obviously the first act was the worst but I mean the rest was basically just a shot-for-shot adaptation with Hamill, where's the huge issue?

So I haven't seen this piece of shit beyond the really stupid sex scene and I have to wonder did they at least do the Joke rape and crippling of her right?

Can someone post the sex scene or images thereof?

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>>84778852

As dumbfuck as Babs fucking Bruce was I'm more mad at the fact that she retired from being Batgirl. It kind of makes her sadness at her paralysis and inability to help people (which motivates her to become Oracle) less impactful.

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>Only like the Killing Joke as a vehicle for the surreal art
>This movies animation looks like shit

I get that Bollards art style wouldnt work in animation but holy dooly was this some bland looking shit.

Is there really no money left in Western animation?

>>84777909
one anon joked that the R rating was a publicity thing. I mean it is tamer than assault on arkham and most of the other pg 13 works

>>84778408
>>84778603
she was backtracking. bats was acting cold so she was telling him she was ok if he did not commit to anything. she did not want to be cut out of his life and was willing to forget about to whole thing if it allowed them to get back to their old dynamic

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>>84778971

>I get that Bollards art style wouldnt work in animation but holy dooly was this some bland looking shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi5qoxxQpMY

Why is co so bent on defending this shit? Is everyones head so far up in their ass that they have to oppose everything normies hate.

>>84779094
/co/tism

>>84779094
Not normies. Tumblrinas. Anything they oppose, must be supported.

>Add a Batgirl story because WB believes it's necessary so the normies know to feel sad when she gets shot
>Make her a shithead that nobody likes

Bravo.

Also her Orcale scene completely ruins the ending.

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>>84779063
>Joker sells completely legit toys at a above-average sale price

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!

>>84778903

>I'm more mad at the fact that she retired from being Batgirl. It kind of makes her sadness at her paralysis and inability to help people (which motivates her to become Oracle) less impactful.

She was retired in the comics too.

>>84779094
contrarianism is fun

>>84779203
really? huh I could have sworn she was still active as batgirl

>>84772449
They already did that. Teen Titans Go, Nightwing and Batgirl were married and had a kid.

The age thing is the only real thing I can see for people to use as a defense about this, and it doesn't really hold water when you consider that

1) Dick married Starfire, not her.
2) She named herself Batgirl, not Ladybird.

>>84779408
>defense about this
wut?

>>84779451
People always bitch that Bruce and Babs shouldn't be a thing because she's closer to Dick's age than his.

>>84779408
I am okay with Babs wanting to straddle the guy. I am just not ok with Batman happily allowing that shit.

This is the same guy who says no to Ivy or Catwoman if they do the same. Why is she any different? Hell he shouldn't even have feelings for her.

>>84772663
Shes a ginger you dip

>>84779479
>Why is she any different?

She's on his side of the law, for one thing. That said I could have sworn this Batman flirts with Catwoman.

>>84778892
>classic Tim Sale Batman face
>nu-cartoon-anime-big-eyed Batgirl face

k

>>84779592
excuse me, Brian Bolland Batman face

>>84779466
There's like a 15 year age gap.
He's her boss/mentor. That's just a no-no.
She's the daughter of his closest friend.

>>84775156
>Complaining about off topic shitposting while off topic shitposting
Shiggy diggy doo

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>>84775451
>>84774540
Batman-WW best relationship

>>84779524
She's a daywalker.

>>84779466
I like the ship. most people seem to bitch about him being jims friend and how its not cool to fuck your friends daughter,etc but honestly to me it seems like they don't like the ship and are just looking for reasons

>>84779479
>I am just not ok with Batman happily allowing that shit.
so he should be raped? How else will she straddle him without consent?
> Why is she any different?
she is not a crazy criminal with a body count and tendency to double cross?
>Hell he shouldn't even have feelings for her.
thank love police

>>84779649
>There's like a 15 year age gap.

So what? There's no 15 year gap law out there. Hell the commonly accepted thing is the half plus seven rule which grows ever so wider the older you get, and that's not a law as well.

>He's her boss/mentor.

She's a freelance vigilante that follows him around and decided to adopt his theme. Even in the animated series she hardly set foot in the batcave.

>She's the daughter of his closest friend.

Big fucking deal. He's not related to them by blood and if they ever let Jim know then at least he can rest easy knowing that her daughter is being loved by the most driven man in all of Gotham.

>>84779761
>so he should be raped? How else will she straddle him without consent?
or he could just push her away

>>84779789
how will she fuck him if he pushes her away?

>>84779789
I get enough 1 sided crushes in pg media

>>84779821
precisely they shouldn't fuck.
Babs wants to fuck batman but he push her away. Creating a weird tension betwen them later on.

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>>84779778

>It's technically not illegal so it's perfectly fine
>It's wildly out of character for both parties but it's perfectly fine
>It spits in the face of some of the most important people in both of their lives but it's perfectly fine
>Sure it's disgusting but it's perfectly fine
>It's a tasteless addition to one of the most celebrated comics ever but it's perfectly fine
>It literally changes the entire dynamic of their relationship that has been established for over 50 years, but it's perfectly fine.

It didn't even have the merit of being something fans of the characters wanted.

The scene was shit. The entire movie was shit. Go fuck yourself.

>>84779864
Or it just flat out ends her wanting to fight crime with him because he outright rejects her. Batman would be willing to use anyone in his fight on crime as long as he can string them along.

>>84779778
>So what? There's no 15 year gap law out there. Hell the commonly accepted thing is the half plus seven rule which grows ever so wider the older you get, and that's not a law as well.

There's a big gap in maturity and emotional development? And if she's 20 and he's 35, then the half-your-age-plus-seven rule doesn't work here.

>She's a freelance vigilante that follows him around and decided to adopt his theme. Even in the animated series she hardly set foot in the batcave

He gives out orders to her, so yeah he's her boss. In TNBA she spends time training in thhe Batcave, and she essentially replaces Robin.

>and if they ever let Jim know then at least he can rest easy knowing that her daughter is being loved by the most driven man in all of Gotham.

It's a betrayal of trust, and Jim wouldn't be happy that his relatively normal daughter is shacking up with someone as obsessed and psychotic as Batman

>>84779864
so what you are really saying is
>Im ok with it if it does not actually happen

>>84779918
I would be ok with Babs wanting to fuck Batman but he rejects her. So yes.

>>84779875
Some people just want to be /co/ntrarians because they think it makes them edgy

>>84775844
/ss/ purest love.

>>84770313
But that's from YJ where Dick was the slut.

>>84779875
>It's technically not illegal so it's perfectly fine
why only technically?
>It's wildly out of character for both parties but it's perfectly fine
no its not, you have just put them on a pedestal
>It spits in the face of some of the most important people in both of their lives but it's perfectly fine
it makes it extra hot
>Sure it's disgusting
no its not
>It's a tasteless
subjective, also talking about "tasteless" in a story where joker strips her naked and takes pictures, in a story with ugly midgets and less political correctness than islam
>It literally changes the entire dynamic of their relationship that has been established for over 50 years
with the endless retcons nothing has been established for 50 years
>it changes the entire dynamic
that is the point

>>84770394
Why even care what tumblr thinks? I'll never understand this fixation a lot of people here have about what some website they supposedly never go on thinks 24/7. Like shit man just form your own opinion for once and stick with it no matter how retarded some of the people agreeing with you may be.

>>84775844
hot

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>>84772476
Good thing I have my trusting Bat-Morning After pill, here in my utility belt.

>>84779778
it weird dude Bruce probably like her uncle by this point. not only that he's Dick's dad its a big moral line batman crossed

>>84779990
It was a badly told story, and failed in its execution. Stop being a cunt

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>>84779685
>not batman/joker

>>84779991
You think /co/ can think for itself?

>>84779875

>It's technically not illegal so it's perfectly fine

There's nothing technical about it retard. There's absolutely nothing illegal about it.

>>84779890

>There's a big gap in maturity and emotional development? And if she's 20 and he's 35, then the half-your-age-plus-seven rule doesn't work here.

Yeah sure. That's why it's been paraded for so long that women mature faster than men right?

And good job on reading. That's why I said the half plus seven thing isn't a law. It's a suggested thing. That's why 33 year old Henry Cavill fucking had a 19 year old girlfriend. Because it's just a suggestion. No age police will bust your chops for it.

>He gives out orders to her, so yeah he's her boss. In TNBA she spends time training in thhe Batcave, and she essentially replaces Robin.

She's freelance. He tells her shit to do but she's free to ignore it, which she does in the movie when Bruce told her not to go to the docks. Just like how Jameson tells Parker to get the former pictures of Spider-man being a menace but the latter doesn't.

>It's a betrayal of trust, and Jim wouldn't be happy that his relatively normal daughter is shacking up with someone as obsessed and psychotic as Batman

Her daughter is far from normal considering she chose to be batgirl. And he doesn't view Batman as psychotic in the shows at all.

>>84779990
>it's dumb

>>84780043
>It was bad, because I say so, thus it's bad

Comicfags cannot into drama.

>>84780063
Ok Timm go back to jerking off to Batgirl porn

>>84780085
>My argument is shit, so there ad hominem attack

>>84779990

Jesus christ.

>why only technically?
Because you brought up "age gap law" for some fucking reason.

>no its not, you have just put them on a pedestal
Thinking superheroes who have no history of sharing ex's with relatives and fucking children of friends all of a sudden having wild rooftop sex out of the blue is unwarranted and ridiculously out of character is not putting them on a pedestal.

>it makes it extra hot
It was only hot to fetishists, whose desires should have no sway over the directions characters take

>no its not
It absolutely was, the vast majority of well-read fans agree

>subjective, also talking about "tasteless" in a story where joker strips her naked and takes pictures, in a story with ugly midgets and less political correctness than islam
Yeah, it was also an act of villainy perpetrated by the Joker, and was condemned as such, while being expected from such a horrible person. There is no analogue to be drawn between the two events.

>with the endless retcons nothing has been established for 50 years
Yes, many things have stayed established. Such as the kinds of women Bruce is attracted to (not Barbara), and his good sense to NOT fuck Barbara Gordon.

>that is the point
No, the point was to both fulfill Timm's fetish and make TKJ a story about Barbra, when that's never what it was supposed to be.

>>84780063
>Yeah sure. That's why it's been paraded for so long that women mature faster than men right?

And Barbara really displayed maturity, right? When she attacked a stranger arguing with his girlfriend for no reason?

>She's freelance. He tells her shit to do but she's free to ignore it, which she does in the movie when Bruce told her not to go to the docks.

Except she still looks up to him, and he speaks to her with authority. Occasionally acting out doesn't mean that he doesn't hold power over her. Hell, Bruce Timm even said that his relationship to her is paternal

>Her daughter is far from normal considering she chose to be batgirl. And he doesn't view Batman as psychotic in the shows at all.

Christ, the straws you keep grasping. You really think a father would be okay with his daughter being shacking up with someone who goes out fighting murderers and supervillains every night?

I swear, /co/ sometimes...

My estimate says in the movie the ages were as followed...

Barbara: 22
Bruce: 45

>>84779990
>it makes it extra hot
/co/, ladies and gentlemen

"to hell with good writing and logical character progression, i want wank material for my creepy fetish!"

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>>84780256
come bruce

>>84779973
not everyone who disagrees with you is edgy

>>84780011
birth control does not start working unless you take it regularly

>>84778892
She doesn't wear a sports bra underneath the suit? Jeez, that must get uncomfortable.

>>84780215
>And Barbara really displayed maturity, right? When she attacked a stranger arguing with his girlfriend for no reason?

Congratulations. Welcome to realworld 103. In this curriculum you will learn that relationships (and sex) can fuck with peoples heads.

> Hell, Bruce Timm even said that his relationship to her is paternal

The same Bruce Timm that had Bruce and Babs as lovers in Batman Beyond, right?

>Christ, the straws you keep grasping.

The same could be said of you. You're the one saying Jim Gordon would call a person he calls his friend as an "obsessive psychopath" with no evidence to back it up.

>You really think a father would be okay with his daughter being shacking up with someone who goes out fighting murderers and supervillains every night?

Save for the supervillain part, it's not that far detached from fathers of the wives of cops or soldiers.

>>84780326
The morning after pill is to abort pregnancy, not prevent it like birth control.

>>84780256
That puts Jim too far into pasture. He'd be retired instead of police commissioner.

>>84780043
the story itself was fine, it would make for an ok tv episode. you just feel buttblasted because it does not fit with t he killing joke and the overall animation did not help things

>>84779890
>20 and he's 35

Hah, I'm a girl and I met the love of my life when I was 23. He was 46. Not familiar with Barb as a character, but most of those cape heroes have daddy issues far worse than mine.

>>84779890
>Jim
so he should ignore both her wants and his, just because her dad may get mad about it?This could be her path to happiness and is something that she wants, but bats has to say no for jim?

>>84770313
So I just got back from watching this movie.

Holy fuck when did normies pollute everything?

>Guy and his gf 2 seats away
>He has to explain that Barbara Gordon is Batgirl and is Commissioner Gordon's daughter
>He has to point out that the building is Arkham Asylum
>He has to point out that the flashbacks were showing the Joker

And no cunt. Absolutely no cunt understod the ending. If I got paid for every "What?" and awkward laugh I heard at the end I'd be filthy fucking rich. And then to top it off and absolutely cap off the evening the normie two seats down saus this little doozy to his gf "That...was a killing joke. You know, it ended exactly like I thought it wuld"

No shit you normie cunt it's an adaption how the fuck else did you think it was going to end.

Overall the movie was enjoyable though.

>>84778682
Not that guy but I really liked it and I don't even read batman comics - so if anything being a "fanboy" would be detrimental.

I didn't think it was perfect. The first half (which I'm told is original content) didn't tie in smoothly to the second half. I actually thought the first half was better than the Killing Joke half of the film. The killing joke bit didn't make much sense and just came off a bit like Alan Moore trying to be edgy
>batman throwing midgets into a pit of spikes
>joker somehow managed to employ a gang of circus freaks as henchmen
>the guy selling the circus was unable to tell he was the joker
Even the joker's backstory didn't seem like enough to turn someone into a homicidal maniac, but the movie does imply that joker was probably not that mentally stable to begin with.

Anyway, whilst not perfect I thought it was quite good. I never seem to agree with people on this board though. You guys always hate stuff for the dumbest fucking reasons.

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>>84778892
first we fight than we fuck

>>84780139
>Yeah, it was also an act of villainy perpetrated by the Joker, and was condemned as such, while being expected from such a horrible person. There is no analogue to be drawn between the two events.
and it was consensual sex between 2 adults, it was not tasteless for them. it was subjectively tasteless to you as the viewer, when saying tasteless you mean actions of people who decided to put it there, not who did what.

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>>84780431
>That...was a killing joke

Would have offed myself in the theatre out of cringe.

>>84780457
It's a common practice.

>>84780457
*then

>>84780431
Take your sperg autist fit over to r9k. Obviously the guy hadn't read the comic. It's a fucking batman cartoon, not some super secret patrician piece of art that you need to have some qualification to watch. If you didn't want to see the movie with normal people you should have just watched it at home. The animation was shit anyway so it's not like you get anything out of going to a cinema.

I don't think they adapted the ending well. The reason nobody understood is because they hadn't read the original.

>>84780390
Gordon could have joined the force at 18. Give him a whole lot of time to become a Lieutenant in time for Year One.

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>>84780494
she hit him with a move that drop batman on his neck and then sex

>>84780457
>her look when she felt his erection and realized the fight was over.

>>84780513
Nigga I haven't even read it and that shit is still dumb

>Having to explain who Batgirl is

That's just some straight up basic shit nigga. Don't even get me started on having to explain that the comedian was Joker in the past. That's in the fucking movie itself.

>>84780515
I've already done the math on this. If you're an exemplary officer and joined the force at 18 you'll be looking to hit lieutenant at 23. The average age for hitting lieutenant though is around 30. Considering that Jim was a lieutenant when he met 8 year old Bruce, that means the age difference between them could be anywhere from 15 to 22 years. For Bruce to be 45 that would make Jim anywhere from 60 to 67 years old, that's no age for a commissioner to be street active in a crime ridden city like Gotham.

>>84780215
>You really think a father would be okay with his daughter being shacking up with someone who goes out fighting murderers and supervillains every night?
yes!? I mean if he would be ok with her going out and fighting murderers then finding love at work should not be that crazy.
>Occasionally acting out doesn't mean that he doesn't hold power over her
except she never submits. I don't know for how many years they have worked in this universe but she seemed to have been under the misconception that she and bats are equal partners(thus the whole speech) I suspect she has not been doing this for long since she still was very naive about what it takes and got preached about basic psychology
>displayed maturity
have you never had a bad day or been angry with a lover?This is not an indicator of overall maturity nor is maturity really needed. yes a conversation can be had about power dynamics and all that jazz but in the end what counts is if the people involved want it and can they make it work or not.

>>84780558
Gordon is ex special forces He probably came straight out of that and into lieutenant.

>>84780551
Sure, but no need to get so bum blasted that some guy claimed to have "predicted the ending".

Plus that girl might have also thought it was obvious but didn't want to be rude to her faggot boyfriend.

>>84780406
not sure if you are really a girl or not(nor do I care) my parents had a 20 year ago gap and generally in my country 5 years one way or the other is considered perfectly normal.while my parents did have their problems, I fail to see why everyone is so butthurt over the age gap. not everyone falls in love in school and marries their sweetheart(or whatever other idyllic visions of romance it is that these people have)

>>84780513
If you're going to be doing running commentary on a movie, which is a straight up dog act to do in a theatre, you damn well better know what the fuck is going on.

>>84780617
No she asked about the Joker thing

>>84780515
-Gordon joins the police force at 18
-Gordon is Lieutenant at 42 and Bruce becomes Batman at 30
-Fifteen years later Bruce is 45, Gordon is 57 and Barbara is 22

>>84780431
>got back from
are you the same faggot that was complaining about being stuck with the tickets?
>He has to point out that the flashbacks were showing the Joker
would it be better if he said nothing?I mean the flashbacks take a long time to get to their destination so unless you know who it is about you just sitting there wondering "why are we focused on this guy" maybe if they removed the flashback filters it would trick people into thinking that its a side character that is on his way to being relevant to the plot
>He has to point out that the building is Arkham Asylum
why?
>He has to explain that Barbara Gordon is Batgirl and is Commissioner Gordon's daughter
did not the movie do that or are you saying they were too dumb to notice?

>>84772783
I also liked it but the sex was retarded

>>84775950
Jason exists, or existed, so Dick does too probably.

>>84777909
We dont hate it because of the scene we hate the leadup

>>84780693
>No
>It's pretty fucking obvious with how they're introduced.
>Felt like showing off what a hug Batman fan he is to his gf I guess
>Going to assume the same as the above because he says it during the scene where she narrates that her dad was meeting Batman

>>84780706
I don't get why everyone thinks the sex is retarded.

I mean, batgirl is hot. If fuck her.

>>84779052
Pretty much
It was auctualy a decently writen conflict but it was not worth the retardation of the sex act itself

>>84779139
What they made it a batgirl story because they needed pading

Is this part of DC's animated movie universe? You know the one with Justice League War and all those Damian movies? Pretty sure they are all part of the same continuity. I watched it and nothing really stopped it from being how TKJ happened in that animated universe.

THIS WAS SO RETARDED ...it wasn't just sex it was character assassination.

The idea that batgirl would want to have sex with batman is fine. Weird, since she is dating his fake son, but fine.

The idea that Batman would fuck his friends daughter and his fake sons love interest is horrible. I understand Batman can be a dick, but usually his dickish behavior is a result of his OCD and his singular focus on being batman and completing the mission.

Here he is willing to throw away 3 of the only relationships he has in his life for a chance at some pussy form a girl half his age. The fact he would betray his friend, betray his ward, and destroy the dynamic by fucking his subordinate is what I take issue with.

Batman has less self-control that your average military office or company executive. He jeopardizes the bat family just so he can bust a nut in his friends 20 something year old daughter.

>>84779991
Because despite what some people belive they are a very real threat to society and if left unchecked will cause problems.

>>84780748
now make you 15 years older than her and she's the daughter of one of your best friend and was dating your son were robin and bb together for this movie

>>84780624
I think most people are more bothered by it being his friend Jim Gordon's daughter and Robin's ex than the age gap itself. If it was some other girl the ages wouldn't even matter, but too many people can either identify with Dick having his mentor/father get with his ex or with Jim having one of his friends hook up with his daughter. Either one has a certain ick factor to it that goes beyond just the age disparity.

>>84780758
Calling it decent is a stretch. She was like a nagging, angsty teenager looking for attention and recognition from the adult in her life.

>>84780789
You seem to be confusing the universe of this film for the comic universe.

In this movie it is clear that robin is dead, bat girl is single and Jim doesn't know that she's bat girl. Batman is already betraying Jim by letting his daughter fight crime with him (honestly way worse than fucking her).

In the context of the film the sex didn't seem unreasonable at all. Maybe innappropriate, but not unreasonable.

>>84780818
Well it was a decent idea at least

>>84780803
from what I've read so far Barbara was the one sperm hunting Batman by wearing her costume to get near him.

>>84780789
It happened in the comics friend

>>84780803
But Robin wasn't in the movie. My dads like 15 years older than my mom so that bit doesn't phase me at all. The only bit you could possibly be upset about is that he nailed his friend's daughter.

>>84780818
Yes, and? That was obviously what they were going for. That's pretty much exactly how a 20 year old girl would react

Batman acted like a bit of a retard though because obviously she was going to act out if he ignored her. I guess he's not that good with interpersonal relationships.

>>84780659
>-Gordon is Lieutenant at 42

That's well below the national average. Gordon's not that inept of a cop.

>>84780513
>super secret patrician
like the sopranos, right?Why do people insist that we should not expect anything from comics? It was R rated so the classic "its for kids" won't help you now

Could someone please explain me what the problem with an impulse-driven sex between two characters?

>>84780837
it makes her creepy
>>84780840
nailing your friends daughter really bad especially when you watch her grow up. they are like family now and just... eh that gross

>>84780877
It didn't really deserve the R rating to be honest. The implied rape wasn't enough to push it over the edge. They even had career criminals saying lines like
>that freaked me the F out!
The cinema I watched it in had stacks of kids.

>>84780743
so its less that she was retarded and more that they were having a conversation/back and forth instead of sitting in silence and it made you angry

>>84780384
It prevents ovulation not cause an abort. It's the "morning after" pill, not the "I'm seeing two red bars on the test, fuck." pill.

>>84780859
Yeah if they want to come across as an annoying idiot, but they were trying to make her seem "strong" and adult like. The creators were completely tone deaf.

>>84780914
>it makes her creepy
perhaps it does but it's probably not that uncommon among girls who just want to get laid to just come onto guys.

>>84780914
Personally I also find it a bit strange to fuck someone who you knew as a kid when you were an adult, but I've known multiple people who've done that sort of thing in real life, so it isn't at all unbelievable to me.

And it's clear that batman realises he fucked up afterwards.

If anything I think it's a pretty interesting relationship dynamic. Don't know why everyone hates it so much.

>>84780603
Special forces would make him older then. The youngest that you can be for special forces is 20, and thats the start of training for it, not even including having gone on any ops. And on top of that from what I'm reading right now you don't get any special promotion just because you went from being a military vet to becoming a police officer. In fact it's a bit longer for a military vet to join due to the fact that they're not only psych evaluated for whether or not they'd abuse authority, but for any signs of PTSD as well.

>>84780921
I think they were just taking the character progression to its next logical step. Not everything is about furthering some agenda.

And even if it was some SJW conspiracy it was still perfectly natural in context so I don't really see the problem.

>>84780807
as it was said before, we don't really know were dick is.He is not in the story, we don't know if he is even in the universe .people talked about how dick is with starfire in teen titans vs justice league but since there is no damian it can't be the same timeline. bros ex/wife/etc can be awkward and unwise but I don't think its taboo. I guess it depends on what circles you are in, I have an friend in art circles and everyone in her group seems to have fucked each other at some point

>>84780953
>I think they were just taking the character progression to its next logical step
this
She's a 20 what year old woman. She's at the prime of her sexual life. She'll probably never be as horny as she is now. Batman is a tall muscular guy. That reads as "I want his dick" to her.
She's going for it. Sounds realistic enough

>>84780917
Anyone talking during a movie makes me angry. How hard is it to shut up and watch the movie?

>>84780830
The killing joke was added into continuity i thought...didn't they do that?

The fact that she dressed up like batgirl and decided to fight crime is something batman can't control. He tried to dissuade her, but he couldn't stop her.

Him letting his dick enter her body is him shitting on the grave of his friendship with gordon.

>>84780839
That is why it is a bad idea in general , it wasn't specific about the movie.

I should have been clearer

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When Barbara Gordon was introduced as Batgirl in the late 60's she was 25 years old and had a doctorate in library science working as head of Gotham City Public Library. It was important at the time to show her an independent and older career woman.

In relation to the age gap at the time Batman was 31 and Robin was 18. So there was a 6 year gap between her and Batman as well her and Robin.

The whole idea of their triangle was that Barbara had a crush on Batman and would try to flirt with him despite being ignored, while Robin had a crush on her which flattered her despite her thinking that he was being too young for her. So Barbara would flirt with both knowing that both scenarios was hopeless and wrong.

Then she met Jason Bard and got engaged with him not much later becoming a congresswoman.

Despite the Crisis on Infinite Earths reboot, that turned her into James Gordon's niece, her age and past history was kept intact. It was only in the late 90's that writers started to push her and Dick as OTP and retconning her past to be closer to him in age and relation.

>>84780953
The problem was because it was a bad story from the construction to the execution of it and had no business being in a Killing Joke adaptation. I was actually looking forward to the movie since I like the story but it really disappointing.

I get some love TKJ story so much they want to defend anything linked with it, or they hate SJWs and always want to take the opposite side to them, but this really doesn't deserve defending. It was bad. It was like getting a nice meal but the waiter threw up on half of it. The idea of giving Babs a prologue to flesh out her character is a good idea, but no one wanted the throw up we got in the end, lol.

>>84780937
it's uncommon to be come a crime fighter to bang someone
>>84780942
because its like an uncle banging his niece dude. batman is a man of principle an he did something that was against is moralizing wrong. she is your friends kid it doesn't matter if Robin not in this movie. Robin and BG were dating or use to date. He fuck his son ex or current gf

>>84780830
>robin is dead
if you are going by the batcomputer of references than some of those contradict each other
>Batman is already betraying Jim by letting his daughter fight crime with him (honestly way worse than fucking her).
this