Bojack horseman season 3

Writing was way better

*than the previous season

I can't believe character actress margo martindale is fucking dead

>>84761594
>>>>>>>

Jesus fucking Christ on the cross


I actually thought Bojack couldn't sink any lower after last season


Just saw that planetarium scene...

About halfway through right now. It's fantastic so far, they keep topping themselves every season. Fish Out Of Water is a standout, the way they navigated the story with no dialogue for the bulk of it was more than just well done, it was goddamn beautiful. Netflix has something special here, and as an animation student it's encouraging and inspiring to see something pushing the bounds of what is expected from Western 2D like this.

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>mfw was talking about BJH to someone and out of all the criticisms they could have made, they said it "didn't try to be visually interesting"
I still can't wrap my head around it. Even if it's nothing else, it's at the very least visually interesting.

>>84761594
Is she? Was she killed in that pasta? I thought everyone was saved there. We thought she was dead before after she took her stand in that art gallery

It's better than Season 1 and 2.

I just finished it and I don't know what to do now.

I felt like they fucked up the last episode with Mister Peanutbutter saving the day with all the pasta bowls. The pacing seemed off. It should have been something done earlier in the season instead of how everything just came together at the last minute and worked out for the best. I really didn't find it that funny.

Either that or I was too tired and depressed from the last episode.

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In the last scene of the season, what is this expression supposed to mean? Is he smiling, grimacing, or what? Is he in awe because he sees some kind of connection between the running horses and Secretariat?

>>84762016
Wait another year.

>>84762044
Good question.

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So what is this? Another year wait or sooner?

>>84762110
Seems like it. They all seem to be made on a yearly basis.

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Sad, soul crushing, had a few laughs.

Episode 4 was amazing, and the ending to 11 might be the worst pain the show gave me

Plus I got a thicc spider waifu out of it, so in the end it was more then worth the wait.

Its a real shame Jill didn't amount to much, hopefully she gets something next season

I really think season 2 was better.

imo: 2>1>3.

It was still good, though, and had many of the things I've always liked about the show with okay story/character progression and a few pleasant surprises. I just thought season 2 was more cohesive, and its punches hit harder. After season 2 felt like an improvement over 1, I thought it would continue to top itself and I was disappointed it didn't feel to me like it accomplished that.

I honestly thought this was going to be a 3 season show and that this season would end with the finale. I'm surprised to see that's not the case. I'm kind of worried that they'll start milking it and it'll go downhill from here, but I do admit I'm definitely invested enough to watch the next season.

>>84761914
I mean, its no Paprika but what was your friend expecting?

>>84761914
Drug scene aside, season 1 is kinda weak.
Season 2 and 3 is when they up their game on the visual department.

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Posty >yfw "It's you."

>>84762044
I think he may be in awe, but I'm not sure that's exactly the reason. The universe this takes place in wouldn't allow it, but I think the idea the scene is supposed to convey is the imagery of real, free wild horses galloping across the plains. That's a pretty majestic and inspiring sight all on its own, but definitely is tied to the show's theme and symbolism with running, and has a clear connection to Bojack.

>>84762742
What got me the most is the fuck, man.
I knew the f-bomb was gonna come sooner or later, but coming from such a pure and sweet person like Todd was a downer. He was done with Bojack for good.

>>84761594
>Implying she won't survive thanks to some hilariously contrived circumstances

>>84761935
We know that the city was saved

We don't know if she or the crew of the cargo ship she hit made it

>actually feeling bad for bojack
>actually thinking he's not a horrible person
>actually thinking he's not a blackhole of sadness and depression that causes everyone around him to be sucked into the void

how many lives does he have to ruin before you people realize he's the villain?

>>84762914
Same. It's amazing how powerful a single f-bomb can be when you use them conservatively.

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>>84762742

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Honestly, how hasn't Bojack killed himself already? You would imagined he would have killed himself years ago. How much more does his life has spiral down until he finally just gives up

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>characters you wish were in season 3

>>84763112
He enjoys making others suffer.

>>84762026
I will repeat my analysis of this season: it's a half season they realized would be awfully paced if they made it six episodes. The general structure of the previous seasons is there, sure, but the plot is essentially at the point we are around episode 7-8 in other seasons, where things are going awful for bojack and something helps him pick up, just for everything to go to hell in the remaining episodes. I am willing to say season 4 will be even more bleak for a giant hopeful, if bittersweet ending. Prepare for the tradition of episode 11 b subverted somehow.

>>84761303
The art style and tone really didn't lend itself to the underwater episode

>>84763227
>stop liking what i don't like!

>>84763260
Stop watching mediocre cartoons because"it hits me right in the feels"

>>84763329
make me 8^y

oh that's right you're one of a million disembodied voices on the internet screaming at the other 999999 constantly, and nobody really cares about what you have to say except to tell you off about it. enjoy your (you)

>>84763329
or talk about why you think it's mediocre and we can get a conversation going.

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>>84763001

This honestly. Bojack fucking ruins everybody else lives because his life is beyond fixing. I mean for fuck sakes he DIRECTLY caused Sarah Lynn's death. I legit felt sorry for him in Season 1 and 2 because he seemed like a good guy who but he kept making horrible decisions. But man Season 3 really showed that Bojack truly is a horrible fucking person and will bring everybody down to the point where they are just as miserable as he is

>>84763443
I like the show but you're a huge faggot. If you can't post like a board vet please don't post at all. It's embarrassing.

>>84763007
>>84762914

Is the show only allowed to say "fuck" once a season?

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>>84763172
Only mentioned once but never shown :c

>>84763574
no, you

>>84762472

Pretty much exactly this. This season's episode 11 was great, but it wasn't nearly as gut-retching as season 1 or 2's. The drama bombs in this season feel abrupt to a fault and it seemed to constantly be on the fence about whether it wanted to be more comedy or more drama-focused. At the same time, there were so many "Oh FUCK" moments that they never really came as a shock. Season 2's downer moments were exceptionally powerful because they always came at times when your guard was down, whereas here it always felt like one was just around the corner. I also have to agree with the guy in this thread saying it felt like an incomplete season.

Even so, I did enjoy it.

>>84763539
>Bojack fucking ruins everybody else lives because his life is beyond fixing.


The lifeguard story was a warning to Sarah Lynn about Bojack.

>>84763586
I don't think there's a definitive rule about it. I know there's one for movies where you can't say 'fuck' more than once without getting an automatic R rating but I dunno if that applies to television.

GET DAT FETUS
KILL DAT FETUS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EbwBXniFjQ&t=0s

>>84763586
No, it's netflix. They could do just about anything they want.

>>84762110
This is the quickest a renewal has come so it's likely they're already working on it, I imagine they'll release it soon after it's ready so it could be sooner. Bet it'll be 9 months at least though

>>84763574
>a board vet

Being on this board for as long as some of us have been isn't something to be proud of, senpai

>>84763112
I think he already gave up.
Now that he's out of the Hollywoo game he can probably find happiness.

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Man honestly, I didn't think this season was gonna be like this, at the end of season 2 I thought he was getting better, but this man, the amount he fucks up is actually insane. Worst part is I can totally see the rationale behind all o f the choices he makes too and I in a similar situation i could see myself making them. It was a fucked up train wreck and I've come to enjoy the feeling of depression I get watching it.

>>84763714
So wait, did Aisha Tyler not voice Sextina in that episode? I don't see her in the credits.

>>84763586
It's way more powerful the way it's used sparingly, I think they just intentionally don't use it in the writing so it doesn't become a crutch and sticks out more.
South Park can't shock me no matter how hard it tries because I expect it, but somehow "I will fucking kill you" really stings

>>84763586
I think they just choose to.

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>episode 2
I don't like how I'm getting nostalgic for those things except for jason mraz

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>I'm poison
>I come from poison.
>I have poison inside me, and I destroy everything I touch.

I wish I didn't know how that felt.

>>84764181
Bojack doesn't really even mean it. Next season he'll try to fuck one of those wild asses, come home and ruin everything everyone else is working on and then flee again.

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There is a lot of foreshadowing trough the season, I wonder if you might be able to figure out something that might happen in the next season, but I don't think they planned that far ahead.

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>mfw those whale titties

>>84761914

The animation itself isn't particularly good but it more than makes up for it in style.

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>>84763714
BRRAP BRRAP PEW PEW
BRRAP BRRAP PEW PEW

>>84761303
That went well.

>>84764394
I mean the daughter is definitely going to be introduced.

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I didn't think this show could mess me up after all it's thrown at me, but episode 11 and Sarah Lynn's out-of-character freakout and death really got me.

>>84764394
>watch through the season again mainly for background noise
>PB talks about doing an underseas seahorse milk commercial
Not one of the neater foreshadowings but still made me giggle

>>84763586
Netflix is fairly liberal with their programming.
There is no limit to cursing and you can get away with a lot of sex and nudity if you want. The limited amount of cursing was purely a creative decision.

>>84764490
I need the soundtrack to this show.

STOP MAKING GUN NOISES

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Anybody else get flashbacks to this when Todd called out Bojack?

>>84764524
that's not foreshadowing, it's literally a set up for a punchline.

>Princess Carolyn and Bojack were the bad guys

>>84764394

The opening Theme song takes place during season 3, I'm pretty certain at least the first 3 seasons were planned out.

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Why is she so perfect?

>Princess Carolyn

She does things to me. Especially during the flashback to 2007. Unf.

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>>84764845
The opening theme takes place during whatever season it currently is, and details in it change to reflect what's currently going on in the show. (Hollywood/Hollywoo sign, Bojack's bed being broken and fixed, Cabracadabra stuff in the living room, the nature of the Cabracadabra employees, and most recently pic related; the bottom image is from S3E12)

>>84763001
>another happy ending
Fucking Venessa Gecko.

I would have liked to have seen their universe's version of Harambe and how they dealt with his death.

>>84764994
She and Rutabaga are the good guys

>>84764977

The opening scene has scenes from whatever season it is part of, (i.e. the Secretariat opening, the birds who tried to blackmail him, etc) but the actual party where he falls down the side and PB peers down and rescues him is from the specific episode where he's nominated for the Oscar.

>>84765102
what did he mean by this

>>84764977
I like how subtle the changes are, you could never even notice them unless you stopped and looked at them.
It took me a while to spot the difference between the two but when I did it hit me like a ton of bricks.

>>84763539

the only lives that hes ruined are sarah lynns and his own. everyone else falling into the same trappings without bojacks help only shows that they would still be doing the same things they are now with or without him

Do the background/animal jokes just keep getting better?

Yes. Yes they do.

>>84765214

You're right, and even if Bojack hadn't been in Sarah Lynn's life the same thing would have happenned to her.

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These two have the best platonic relationship on the show.

>>84765350
The background/animal jokes are one of the best things about the show.

>>84764891
She's the most hopeful character on the show and she's not a complete fucking dumbass like Todd

wtf happened with the end of season 2. I thought he was going to make some progress and run a lot more.

>>84765125
No, that scene kind of never happened. We just got a very similar scene. Instead of Bojack falling into the pool by himself, he backs his car into it, and Diane isn't there with Mr PB. It could just as easily be that they decided to write a scene based on the thing they had going for the opener rather then the opener was a hint at a plan they had going all along. This whole season made me feel like they've always had some ideas on where to take the show if they got renewed for a new season, but that they've largely been making it up as they go also.

>>84761914
The animation has been stepped up this season. The characters all have more than three poses.

I still can't believe there was a Drinky Crow Show shoutout. I didn't know anyone remembered that show.

How would things change if Todd had roomed with Princess Carolyn instead?

Considering how much she wanted kids at the start of the series, would she benefit from having someone to take care of?

>>84765655
I remember that show. What was the shout out?

>>84765383
>2007 scene where he literally destroys her life by trying to use her fame and removed her anchor in the world
Surprised I haven't seen anyone talk about this scene at all because I thought it was one of the more powerful and sad ones on the entire season

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>>84762742
>tfw

>>84765806
I think PC would have gotten tired of Todds shit real quick, especially if she couldn't fuck him

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Did anyone sort of think the writing was better but also got a bit more... SJW-ish? I know that seems sort of childish but things like characters actually saying "problematic" and "ableist" as well as Todd looking like he's going to "come out" as asexual just seems... a bit much.

>>84765923
Diane was always like that

>>84765840


The point of the season was that everyone wanted to use Sarah Lynn now that she was a big star. Sarah Lynn was so desperate for an actual friend that she thought Bojack was there just to hang out with her instead of because he wanted something. The thing is that the same thing probably happened multiple times. Bojack was only the latest person who wanted to use her, and if Bojack wasn't the last person then the person before Bojack would have been the last person.

>>84765960
Diane didn't say those things though. Others did.

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So episode 11 is always going to be the known as the "oh fucking shit" episode of the seasons right? What will Season 4 episode 11 will be?

>>84765528
At the beginning of the season, I really do think he's changed. There are multiple scenes where he goes to be a jerk and catches himself and apologizes to whoever he's being a dick to and explains that he's just going through shit and doesn't mean it. But then the Oscar campaign comes up and he goes into another downward spiral.

I do think it's important to note how he behaves in episode 12 when he's talking to the little girl he's working with, though. Season 1 Bojack just would have acted exactly the same as Horsin Around Bojack back in the 90s had treated Sarah Lynn. But after everything he went through in seasons 1 thru 3, he's finally become a person that is naturally nice to a little girl, and we can interpret some selfish reasons he may have behind that but I think it's mostly he's just become more of a good person.

>>84765840
Yeah. I get depressed the more I think about what happened. Bojack's right, it was completely his fault that she died.

>the Diane's 2007 haircut is too qt4me

>It takes a long time to realize how truly miserable you are, and even longer to see it doesn't have to be that way.
>Only after you give up everything can you begin to find a way to be happy.

Calling it now, BoJack is going to give up everything and go live with some kind of hippie horse commune next season.

>>84765923
Nah, for the moderate increase in references to modern social politics they also increased in equal measure the mockery of those politics.

Todd's asexuality was a bit much, but that was more due to the lack of sufficient runup than him turning out that way. It's plausible, but I feel it could have been planned a bit better.

>>84765995
Suicide, or attempted suicide

>>84765923
I don't know, 9/10 it seemed like every time they brought it up it was used as a joke.

Unless you were supposed to take the Paris Hilton mouse girl seriously.

>>84765840

unfortunately her life was already fucked up and out of her control by this point. to be honest, it's amazing how much Sarah Lynn is pretty much a more popular bojack. even the suicidal thoughts Diane thought bojack would get for winning an Oscar came out in sarah Lynn. if bojack hadn't shown up that day, something else would have been the straw that broke the camel's back.

So how long WERE they on that bender? The timeline means it had to have at least been a month

>>84765806
PC would have kicked Todd out. Probably the very first day. I'm not sure how Todd would even end up crashing with her considering she doesn't throw wild parties like Bojack and therefore wouldn't find random strangers living on her couch the next day.

>>84765839

When Bojack is doing the reading of his second show with the hamster dude. There's a poster in the background with a drunk crow saying, "The Drunky Crow Show"

>>84765923
They have more ripping for the more mentions. The only one I have an issue with is Todd because it came out of nowhere and is completely fucking stupid.

>>84765386
I'd argue for Todd and Mr. Peanutbutter.

>>84766087
The Stilton mouse girl was pretty blatantly a dig at people/media sites who use progressive politics as a way to garner controversy and attention, while not having any actual devotion to said politics.

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>tfw Todd only said hooray twice

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>>84765923

>a character being asexual is SJW

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>>84766331
>coming out as asexual isn't SJW

It's not a thing. You can try to think that is a thing but it is not a thing.

>>84765923
That's literally the joke you retard. Did you miss the constant references to everyone being full of shit in Hollywood, the Bill Cosby reference, the fucking safe space school, and all the other pop culture satire? Or does your brain just shut down and scream SJWS RUINING MY SHOWS at the first mention of your trigger words?

>>84766331
No, the show acting like it's a legit sexuality and not a medical condition is the SJW part

>>84765923
>characters actually saying "problematic" and "ableist"
They did that with a mocking tone. And I think only one character actually spoke that way, serving as a representative for those types.

>Todd looking like he's going to "come out" as asexual
I'm hoping for a little arc or episode where somebody tries to find the correct label for Todd, only for Todd to come to the conclusion that labels are stupid. I feel like maybe they actively avoided using the word "asexual" just because of that.

Todd isnt asexual he's just not into humans

>>84766027
Agreed. Does that haircut have a name?

>>84765923
Do you not realize that we're not supposed to like that mouse woman at the end? Also, grow up about Todd being asexual. There ACTUALLY aren't enough asexual characters in anything. I think it's interesting.

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>>84766331

A ambiguously Mexican twenty-something burnout from California who is also asexual and is best friends with an old man sounds kinda SJWish

>>84766050
That's what we all said about this season.

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>>84766375
>Implying all sexuality isn't merely a mental condition
>muh reductionism
existence before essence nerd :^)

>>84766456
That's like saying there aren't enough Downs Syndrome characters>>84766456

>>84766364

Asexuality is a legitimate thing, whether you agree with it or not. Or do you think it's impossible to not be sexually attracted to either sex?

>>84766480
how

>>84766511
Once again of course its real. Pretending its to be accepted is the issue

>tfw you have to wait another year for closure with penny

>>84766119
How long does it usually take between announcing the Oscar nominees and holding the Oscar awards?

He showed up at her place very shortly after they announced the nominees, right? As much as I liked the episode it also kinda felt like an overly convenient way to do a time skip.

>>84766503
Well, not him, but I'd be interested if a piece of media managed to incorporate a character with Down Syndrome that's not a one-episode problem plot or cheap tokenism.

>>84766555
Why shouldn't it be accepted. If you spew some shit about muh white genocide or "securing the future for muh beautiful melaninless babies" I'm not replying.

>>84766555

What's so hard about accepting someone doesn't like dick or vagina? Who is affected by someone not wanting to have sex? Do you think people should be forced to? Are you upset because you aren't getting any despite wanting it so badly?

>>84766480
I don't think SJW is the right term here, but I can see what you're getting at. As long as it doesn't feel forced, I can stand it.

>>84766555
>Pretending its to be accepted is the issue
It's really none of my business whether or not someone has a sex drive.

>>84766456
Oh interesting, a word I've grown to hate.

>>84766602
>tfw you will never get closure with Penny

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>Bojack in season one
Wow he's actually a decent guy he's just lost control of his life

>Bojack in season two
He's kind of a dick but there is still some good in him. I hope he stops making horrible decision

>Bojack in season three
Wow I was wrong, he truly is a piece of shit and deserves all the bad shit that's happening to him. Seriously fuck that asshole

Wonder how he turn out in season four. He will plummet further down or will he be redeemed

>>84765923
Todd being asexual makes sense though. I think it's fine if it makes sense.

>>84765923
They actually made a joke at tumblr's expense.

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>diane saying no one will be there to stop bojack's suicide
>"Look at all my great friends! They'll be around!"
>intro sequence has no one around

>>84766555
Do you think that you're more cool or smarter than other people for being a self righteous little shithead?

>>84765923
Todd being asexual =/= SJW.

Todd making a big deal and 'coming out' as asexual = potentially SJW depending on how it's done.

>>84766456

>Also, grow up about Todd being asexual. There ACTUALLY aren't enough asexual characters in anything. I think it's interesting

Wow, tumblr really wants diversity that badly.

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>>84766555
If society can accept your autism they can accept someone's asexuality.

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>>84762742

>>84766623
Here you go anon, its exactly what you wished for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCm1sjARU7E

>>84763172
I thought she was going to be the closer

>>84765923
>SJW-ish
They're certainly more aware of that type of thing, but they're taking pot-shots at both "teams" so I'm fine with it. I thought Todd's asexuality makes sense considering the closest thing we've had to a hint of him being sexually interested in anyone was that online Japanese girlfriend, but then it's not like he could have sex with her anyway.

>>84766602
There's a high chance they might never mention her again.

>you will never live in the Labrador Peninsula
>where nothing bad ever happens

What's the name of Carolyn's assistant with the beard and who voices him

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Aha /co/! You thought you enjoyed this show, but actually it touches on topics which are relevant to modern social issues and politics! Therefore, nobody can like it, because that other site and demographic we hate also talks about those topics!

Now that we've established this show is horrible because reasons, I have to go skim the wikipedia wikipedia articles people related to the show, and anyone tangentially related to them for 5 hours so I can make an MS-paint infograph somehow relating netflix to Jews.

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>>84767127
>Weird Al isn't your brother

todd is a shit character

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>>84766555
>>84766623
>>84766511
>>84766679
>>84766698
>>84766870
>>84766985
>/co/ isn't a sjw shithole they said

>>84766119
>>84766609
According to the calendar in Sarah Lynn's kitchen, the bender started on January 15, 2016. The 2016 Oscar Awards were on February 28. So the bender lasted 44 days.

>>84767133
Judah

Diedrich Bader

>>84767133
Judah, Diedrich Bader.

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>>84766373
Calm down man, I'm not the one using all caps for cruise control.

It just felt like it was there more in this season, but not as mocked. I don't know.

>>84767117
The writers are quite obvious liberals even if they are "denouncing" the fringe SJW

>three separate jokes about evil assault rifles and their extended clips in S3 alone

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>>84767251
>Oh, no the majority of my (you)'s are against my standard /pol/ social contrarianism
>I- I'd better just call them all ess jay dubyas! the ultimate finisher!
call me a cuck next nerd

>>84767127
It's a real place, get going

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labrador_Peninsula

No anthropomorphic dogs though

Also I can't guarantee it's as idyllic as the one in the show

>>84767251
I've just accepted it by now.

>>84767355
I didn't say cuck. I didn't even mention /pol/.

You're the one using the buzzwords.

>>84767355
cuck

>>84767281
>>84767311
Thanks, couldn't place the voice but now I know it's ingrained in my head because I definitely watched Billy & Mandy and Napoleon Dynamite a lot

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>>84767070
>Comments are disabled for this video.
Of course.

>>84766480
It would probably be LESS believable if they didn't include wierdos like that in Hollywoo of all places.

>>84761914
As an artist I would agree. When you compare it to many shows that take their animation seriously shows like BJH R&M just wont compare. That being said they aren't trying to be extraordinary pieces of animation, they're simply vehicles for clever writing, interesting characters and funny jokes.

You're friend is right if he says "it could look better", he's wrong if he says "it needs to look better"

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>>84767441
>sjw
>not a buzzword

>>84767323
>creative fiction writers
>obvious liberals
Why is anyone still surprised about this?

>>84767445
unf, oh baby

now call me a libtard

>>84767251
Everyone knows /co/ has been taken over by tumblr. What the tumblrinas have managed to do is to learn not to erupt at the smallest slight every thread and instead "politely disagree" with people not advocating social justice and do this for years on end to slowly make people who aren't retarded think their opinions are the minority and shift the overtone

>>84767251
>it's only bantz if you say nigger and hate on LGBT
>Mom they're disagreeing with me again!

WHO WAS THE TEENAGE HORSE LOOKING FOR BOJACK

Who else is disappointed they didn't do more with Diane's abortion? I think they should have added some conflict between Diane and Mr. PB, with Diane wanting to abort and PB wanting to keep it, or maybe show Diane be conflicted about getting an abortion. I also would've liked to see her reacting to listening to the fetus' heartbeat or the cute puppy videos.

>>84767494
It isn't. It's the best way to identify the sort of politics that it encompasses.

I'm sorry that it makes you spiral into, well, whatever this is.

>>84767579
Diane is a Proud Liberal, killing a child isn't any big thing.

Why is everyone saying this season made them think Bojack is a monster? I think he did worse things in Season 2 (like trying to break up Charlotte's marriage and trying to sleep with Penny) than anything he got up to this season.

>>84767578
His daughter

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>>84767251
>implying I'm SJW
I want both you people and the liberals in the same labour camps buddy :^)

>>84767504
John Swartzwelder and the South Park duo (both libertarians) are the only I examples I can think of adult animation writers who aren't extremely liberal

>>84767643
He always does shitty things to his friends, it's just that by season 3 it's par for the course instead of everyone thinking "maybe he's just misunderstood"

Still noticeable that they're making it up as they go. Shows can only reach the pantheon of eternal greatness when the head writer has the characters mapped from beginning to end.

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>mfw those sopranos references and the therapist

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"Fuck man. What else is there to say?"

>>84767251

Do you get angry and cry SJW when people support gay marriage too you retard?

>>84767579
I like that they DIDN'T do more with it, I was expecting that conflict and it felt refreshing not dwelling on it. Felt more realistic and less soap opera forced drama. There were more interesting stories going on

>>84767643
Because people were still in denial about Bojack and Penny until this season spelled it out for them.

>>84765923
>I know that seems sort of childish but things like characters actually saying "problematic" and "ableist"
That character got Diane to write slam pieces on her husband you're obviously supposed to see her as a piece of shit

>>84767643
He literally murders someone.

>>84764891
It's a bit concerning she, out of all people, is the best one of the bunch considering she is constantly just as shitty as everyone else and her need to help is less an innate desire and more of a coping mechanism.

>>84767729
I notice in S3 he's actually making an effort to be better to others than in previous seasons.

Is it too little, too late? Maybe. But I don't think he's a monster.

>>84767749
>You haven't even told me your favorite Harry Chapin song!
>It's Cats in the Cradle but don't listen to it now!

best joke this season

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>>84767813
Well, it was more manslaughter than anything else.

>>84767813
>literally murders
He did heroin with her and she OD'd

That's not a murder

Did he encourage the bender that led to her death? Yeah. But he didn't make her die.

And remember, it was her idea to do the heroin. He didn't put up resistance to it, but she was the one who floated the idea to begin with.

>>84767397
So, Mr Peanut Butter is Canadian? It actually does look like a nice place. Like, Maine but more north.

>>84765099
And that's not even being sarcastic. They were.

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Weird Al has some dramatic voice chops

>>84767594
>my catchall term is not a buzzword
>but yours totally is haha you're crazy I WIN

>>84767926
Yep

>>84767819
The thing is while casually he's a better person to people in S3 when he goes through one of his regular depressions he actively drags someone else through it and then just dumps their devastated **corpse** on the other side while he just hops on the next opportunity to destroy out of self-pity

>>84765386
They're the good guys.

>>84767943
Who does weird all play?

[spoilers]I'm just glad Captain Peanutbutter is ok[/spoilers]

>>84768066
Captain Peanutbutter

>>84765386
That's not Todd and the dyke director

>>84767486
This isn't a show made by/for cartoon fans, is it? With all the jabs and references they make towards the entertainment industry, there is a noticeable lack of ones directed at the animation side of it. There are a couple, but not many.

I did like the dig at kickstarter when Diane asked if the world really needed a stop motion short film about a pig that goes to circus school.

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"There's always time to talk about feelings, because feelings are the ceilings of our hearts, and a leaky feeling ceiling leads to a flood of blood, and I'm cold, will you pass me that blanket?"

>>84766503
I will second the other guy. Down syndrome people can be just as functional as everyone else. Sure, they are disabled, but I have seen down syndrome accountant who was better than my Jewish one, and almost as well spoken. Sure, you can notice he still struggles with some things and he will tell you very frankly he won't be having kids because he doesn't want his kids to inherit his condition, but if the guy was wearing a mask all the time I wouldn't have fucking known.

Depicting the disabled when they have been attempts at teaching them how to function normally rather than some helpless idiots would be a boon to show business, as long as they weren't SJW about it.

>>84767901
She died doing heroin that had a picture of BoJack on it.

So "BoJack" does kill her.

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>>84762044
He's seeing Secretariat's parting message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM2LsKdUlx4

When you get sad, you just keep running.

>>84767943
I didn't know Will Arnett could even do dramatic until now.

>>84768152
This show is seriously probably the best work Arnett's ever done.

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>>84765923
The show only took a hard-left stance during the Abortion episode.

Otherwise it played it pretty middle-of-the-road and outright shit all over PC/SJW culture with the little church play scene.

Hell, Diane really toned back the flat, preachy feminism rhetoric and that stuff got mostly shoved into Todd's not-Uber company for ACTUAL JOKES.

Also pretty sure when they used the word "ableist" they were poking fun at the character saying it. Like what's-her-face, the white girl, going "fuck white people, am I right?" and the two actual minorities just staring at her like a dumbfuck.

>>84763718
>>84764549
If F is for Family can get away with like, ten solid seconds of on screen ball-slapping sex, Bojack can get away with a few F-bombs.

>>84767579
That would have gone against the point of the episode, which was aiming to portray abortion in a more normalized light. And most women's abortions don't go down with those kinds of conflicts.

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>>84764394
>trough
I know that was probably unintentional but I had a hearty laugh at it.

>>84768152
he really can't. He has another netflix show that is basically just live action bojack and it's worse than it sounds.

Like every season, it made me hate myself less. And thats more than I can ask from a show about a horse.

>>84767736
I'd like to know what specific works you think belong there.

>>84768223
????

Why did you quote me here? Netflix had gaspar noes Love, which is basically a really long and sad porn.

>>84767643

Bojack never tries to be good this season. A big part of Season 1 and 2 was him trying to be good, so even though he does bad stuff we forgive him because he's looking for forgiveness\goodness.

In season 3 he never tries to be good, even though he never does anything bad. In the end we put more focus on people's intentions then what they accomplish.

>You will never call the Closer

>>84768361
The Sopranos and Six Feet Under. Both shows had the major characters' stories written from beginning to end before producing a single season.

>>84762356
seven vaginas

>>84767901
>He didn't put up resistance to it
Well he did at first, but not very hard and he gave in quickly.

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>>84762742

>>84767643
You could see his intentions in season 2, which sounded great in his mind but were horrible in real life. He knew what he was doing in season 3 and he still did those things, there's no excuse for him this time.

>>84768385
Sure he does. He's nicer than before to Todd, he tries to apologize to Kelsey and wants to work on her next movie in part to try and make what he did up to her, he tries to avoid hurting Bradley when looking for a way to reject Ethan Around.

One thing that stuck out to me, actually, was in the last episode where he's proposing a change to the Ethan Around script that involves him giving up his big punchline to Bradley's character. Season 1 Bojack absolutely would not have done that. Season 2 Bojack, I can see going either way, but probably not.

Boxer vs Raptor!

>>84768427
So, is this just reserved for tv shows, or can literature or other arts go in there too?

>>84768427
Fuck, man, Six Feet Under's finale ruined me emotionally.

>>84762742
B-but his parents fucked him up pretty bad though right?

>>84761806
>Fish Out Of Water is a standout, the way they navigated the story with no dialogue for the bulk of it

What the hell? Have you people not seen episodes like this ever?

>>84768684
NANANANANANA

>>84768702
What the fuck does a complaint about character arcs being made up as the writers go have to do with a completed novel or a painting you dumb bitch?

One of the big signs that it's being made up as they go is Introducing major characters important to a current character's backstory and situation that no one's ever down the line even though it makes little sense they wouldn't have come up before. Bojack Horseman is a major offender and the most blatant evidence that this was not preplanned)

>>84767214

>>>
>not identifying with todd's pussying out sexual encounters
>thisisbait.jpg

It's 2007 bro. Get with the times.

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>>84764977
>tfw there are more vains on his eyes on the bottom one

>>84763172
Yea parent flashbacks were the main thing missing from the season

>PC going back to being a "manager" despite her partner advising against it

>Todd, apparently asexual, in a relationship with someone who clearly enjoys casual sex

>Diane showing an attraction to Bojack that she cant put into words
>PB on edge whenever she and Bojack are alone together

Everyone is gonna come crashing down with Bojack soon enough.

>>84766781

kind of hope he kills himself as season four finale

>>84768931
lol i've never been in a position to chicken out.

but he's still a bad character whether I can relate to him or not. That has nothing to do with quality

Do you think Aaron Paul is good in his role?

>>84769198
I like his commercial work better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5UjmHOl4pU

>>84769198
It's hard to tell because the voice intonation they picked for Todd is so fucking stupid that all emotions sound pretty lame.

The ending was a lot heavier than I was expecting.

>>84769198
I think the director does a terrible job with him, I know that Todd is supposed to be the more "sitcom" character but the tone of voice Paul has is so fucking stupid and terrible

>Herb in season 1
>Charlotte in season 2
>Todd and Sarah in season 3

Sooner or later, Bojack will run out of people to make him contemplate suicide

Did Bojack and Charlotte ever have a chance, or has he just been putting her on a pedestal for the past twenty years?

So is Bojack... like have a human dick down there.. or is it a floppy leathery horse dick.


I-I'm asking for a friend

>>84769530
Maybe if they started dating 20 years ago, but by the time he was interested again she was married and had all but forgotten him.

>>84768752
don't ever binge watch that show. nothing's ever even come close for me in terms of media consumption that left my mood depressed for many days after i finished as watching season 5 all in two sittings

>>84769351
But anon, the person that makes him want to commit suicide the most ishimself.

>>84769530
If you take a step back from the situation it's completely absurd and I think the generally young audiences don't pick up on it for the most part.

Bojack knew this woman for a few months 3 god damn decades ago when they were pretty much kids. The fact that he believes there's anything there or they're some great pals after 30 years and it's appropriate to show up at her house is just sad, and I mean sad as in pathetic.

>>84769534
With a few exceptions, the animals are essentially human from the neck down.

>todd isn't actually asexual
>his reluctance stems from sexual abuse he suffered as a child, or some other trauma

calling it now

Bojack is more like griffith than guts

So who did Bojack Plow in S3?

Whale, todd's friend, what else am I missing?

>>84769904
Publicist

>>84769530
One billion percent pedestal. Especially since he allowed the fantasy to fester so long in his mind.

>>84769904
The question is, who will he plow in S4.

>>84770013
Mr. Peanutbutter

>>84769904
Technically PC even though it was 2007.

>>84770013
His daughter and Penny

>>84762742
It was too real.
Is anyone else also afraid that you are the drowning person that will only bring down anyone that tries to help? ;_;

>>84769712
Was it really so pathetic? She invited him to meet and he probably went with the intention of having a lunch or two to chat. He should have just met the family and left within a week tops.

i'd like to fuck his daughter

>>84769530
Had he made a move when they were young maybe

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>>84763574
>he unironically refers to himself as a board vet

>>84770071
"You look just like your father"

>>84770150
Did she really invite him down to New Mexico? I forget if she invited him or he just went down there out of the blue.

>>84770177
>he's unironically new and proud

>>84770209
I think she gave him the "any time you wanna come over" which really means, "call ahead and we'll figure it out"

>yfw PB has the right outlook about everything bojack could learn a thing or two

>>84770263
The term for """""Board vet""""""" is oldfag you obvious newfag

>>84770302
i'd like to live in dog city.
everyone is always happy

>>84767685
>>84767578
Oh shit I just realised the foreshadowing in the abortion episode where Bojack talks about all the women he paid for abortions for

>>84770302
We're seeing more and more that PB is not as perfect as people think, he's on his 3rd marriage, and marriage makes him a whiny needy bitch

>>84770209
Yeah, with a card at Herb's funeral.

>>84770327
>being so new he actually wants people to go around calling themselves oldfags

fuck off lad, lurk a lot more

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>>84770424
>mcfw

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>>84770385
Well, he's a Lab after all.
Where I live labradors are the dog breed most frequently abandoned due to their neediness and tendency to chew on everything so that's probably what Diane will end up doing.

>>84763714
I really liked this episode. I think this episode alonew made the season for me.

Speaking of which a lot of crappie went down in this season, maybe they should a spaced that out more, made the dramatic moments more savory that way. It felt like every episode they were wrapping up some dilemma right away

I think you've got a touch of the ocean madness, /co/mrade...

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>>84769818
>todd isn't actually asexual
>his reluctance stems from sexual abuse he suffered as a child, or some other trauma
Oops.

>>84769530


Charlotte was probably the last person Bojack had a chance with before he hit it big. Afterwards hes a famous tv star that can get laid every night just by going out but Charlotte like him before he was famous.

In reality they probably would have broken up after a few months but her status as the last girl who liked Non-tv star Bojack sort of elevated her in his mind.

>>84767579
Is having to listen to the heart beat a real law?

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>You are what's wrong with you.
>Not the Oscars.
>Not the Alcohol.
>Not your shitty parents.
>It's you!
>Fuck man...What else is there to say?

>>84771051
It never does
You'll just keep falling deeper and deeper

>>84771028


Yes. In Texas you have to listen to the heartbeat, Look at a fruit that's the size of your fetus and compare it to the site it'll be in various months, wait 24 hours after the consultation, and also your abortionist must have a nearby hospital that he works at and can take you to in case you die.

>>84771051
Because it's always somebody else's fault but never yours, right anon?
Just accept you are a degenerated,

>>84771128
What now?

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Was fun, although it wrapped expectedly up for a fourth season in a meh.

>>84761806
>and as an animation student
It has amazing writing but the animation is garbage.

Why has barely anyone mentioned Bojacks daughter?

>>84769530
As it was? Pedestal.

They might have had a real chance of working out way back when if they'd gotten together then.

>>84769534
When Ana was stroking him off her hand motions made me think he had a huge dick for a human, but still apparently not horse sized.

>>84771163
>and also your abortionist must have a nearby hospital that he works at and can take you to in case you die.
Didn't that part get overturned in federal court recently?

>>84771438
There isn't really much to say about her. All we know is she exists and she's trying to get in touch with him.

>>84771438
I'm wondering who the mother could be.

There was a bit of foreshadowing with Bojack fearing something like this could happen, so it was probably from some random woman in the past; especially since all the women that have been established as him knowing in the past are too strongly connected with him in the present for something like that to go unnoticed.

>>84768027
You are really sad.

>>84771683
It was most likely a one-night stand. God knows Bojack's had plenty of those.

>>84771683

Probably a random girl who's not even the same species as him.

>>84771438
What's to mention? All we can guess is that she most likely goes to the same college as Penny

While watching this I wondered
>When will BoJack die?

But that's the thing-
BoJack can't die. He won't die.
Death at this point would be a catharsis to him.
Literally nothing could be worse than seeing his life and those around him crumble ever further by his own hand, through his own poison and misery. His own life is a punishment enough by his own creation.
He did it all to himself. It's all his fault.
He is a living hell, not in it, he IS it.

But. At the very end, there's still hope.
Because hell without hope, isn't hell. It's just death.

>>84769618
I had to just take a break, that entire show is hard to binge watch for me.

>>84771759
>>84771766
I'm betting season 4 will have a flashback to the late 90's, early 2000's with the mother, drop it for a few episodes, then the daughter shows up and the plotline will pick up.

>>84764977

Oh wtf, Alison Brie plays boring not-sexy Diane?

Never payed attention.

>>84771771
She didn't look college age, She's probably 15/16,

>>84767579
As a sex loving liberal witch I will tell you for a fact that I don't get abortions sometimes, I get abortions always.

Plus that's overplayed and ultimately wouldn't lead anywhere. That issue being self contain to that one episode was a good idea.

>>84771931
She was sitting in what looked like a stereotypical college dorm

>>84761303
IT CAME OUT?
THANKS

>>84771931

I forget if they say it or not but she's most likely in college.

That's hinted at by the style of the library she was in and the house party she went to.

And also the fact that she said "I was seventeen..." Hinting at a passage of time.

>>84772104
Did it? Aren't those usually shared?
Dorms are not usual in my country so I don't know.

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>>84771163
And in many states you have to look at the ultrasound. And in some places doctors are required to tell their patients that they can reverse their abortions in the middle of it, even if the doctors themselves don't support that procedure and think it's bullshit. Pretty sure there are other equally ridiculous laws around it too, like in some places it's required that abortion clinics have hallways big enough to accommodate two stretchers, even when the only treatment they provide is a medical abortion, which is literally just taking a pill. Pretty much it wasn't that far off the mark with the "I am required by law to tell you your fetus will have developed a favorite color, and that color may be blue" bit. The people passing these laws don't know shit about medicine.

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Did they bring on a batch of SJWs to write the last half of this season? I Diane has always been kinda preachy but she's not crazy and pretty much every point she makes is true. She genuinely wants equality for everyone unlike modern "feminists",and it never feels like she is shoving her beliefs onto you but shit like Todd being pan/tran/flansexual all of a sudden and the whole "safe space for women, all men are horny, womanizing cows" shit is classic feminazi nonsense.

>>84765923
Yeah I was noticing it too.
Like the crossed out 'black people' on the emmy board and the WHITE MALE opinion on abortion. Watch your step BoJack, you're becoming a bit faggy.

>>84772250
I was talking about the girl horse that tried to contact Bojack,

Todd isn't asexual.

He's basically just retarded.

>>84772288
Anon you tried making this post earlier with anime references as your main images but we know it's still you.

>>84766886
Asexuality isn't fucking real. Thereby it is very SJW to pretend otherwise.

>>84768204
They were middle of the road on most things but they hardlined on MORE than just abortion.

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>>84772410
That is the first post I've made in this thread you paranoid faggot

>>84772259
It depends on the way in which the rooms themselves are furnished, but yeah, it looked like one side of your typical, sterile, "too expensive to be a prison cell, but is essentially just an expensive and glorified prison cell" freshman dorm bedroom that makes up most universities. Well, here in America, at least.

>>84772270
I've always found it strange that there are states that are that strict with the rules for an abortion. I live in a red state, and you can choose to abort up to 23 weeks and 6 days, you don't have to hear the heartbeat, and you don't have to see the ultrasound. I guess that's the one issue I had with the episode, that a liberal state like California would give Diane such a hard time

>>84772250
You're thinking of Penny, who we know is in college because Sarah Lynn looked it up and said so. We're talking about teenage horse girl, who we only saw for like two seconds in the last episode in what seemed to be her bedroom.

Did anyone think her cord phone was weird? Why wasn't she calling from a cell?

>>84767251
Anyone with a set of eyes knows how deeply into shit /co/ has gone. It's effectively /cgl/ light or in other words a tumblr frontier colony.

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>>84772399
He has erectile dysfunction.

He's attracted to women, its just sex that freaks him out.

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I love this juxtaposition that a silly cartoon about a talking horse having such intense existential tones. I always thought it was about his fall from greatness and now you come to find he was just never great. Absolutely heart rending

>>84772288
I felt the same, I don't like how they are writing PB as an stupid white male and the abortion episode was also too heavy handed,

>>84772503
>>84772354

Ahh my bad.

Yeah, I dunno. I'm hoping shes the same age as Penny.

>>84772489
>that a liberal state like California would give Diane such a hard time
I guess that's a valid complaint, but with all the material from the other silly state laws in this country it would have really been a wasted opportunity to not at least mention it like they did.

>>84767943
I felt like a complete idiot when I didn't realize that was Weird Al until the credits.

Then in the next episode he appeared in it was suddenly super obvious to me.

>>84767251
Who actually ever said that?

Best season.

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Did the 2007 jokes make anyone else feel incredibly old?

yeah... there was time then

>>84772633
I honestly thought Bojack was going to die or be injured at the end. The Sara Lyn fake out death also got to me, then the real death had that OOMPH of impact.

If you still think you're just like bojack you're a horrible person and should evaluate your life choices.

>>84772607
That's true, I suppose for people who aren't fully aware of what some states put women through to have an abortion. I did appreciate that they didn't show Diane waffling or some huge regret over it, although I suppose that could still happen

I can't describe how hard I laughed when I saw the John Edwards '08 poster in ep 2.

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>>84772743

I kept thinking it was too early to be making 2007 jokes but then I remembered that was 13 years ago. Help me.

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>>84772346
>"America celebrates three days without a mass shooting. This Just In - Never mind."
>Mr. PB trying to explain the cultural difference between dog idioms to Diane by likening it to humans shooting one another.

>>84772743
Considering I didn't know Four Loko was a thing until a year or too ago, yes. Was that something regional? I remember a drink called Cocaine making headlines, though.

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>>84772743
Honestly, I don't even remember 2007. I was 13 at the time and I just have no recollection of the year. Seriously, I was thinking about this at work today and the knowledge is just not there. I hope I wasn't abducted by aliens or replaced with a robot, or something.

>>84761303
Watching the last episode, I called Sara Lyn dying as soon as she showed up. It's too much, bojack should kill himself now

>>84772963
I was 18 in 2007 and it was an important year for me for a lot of reasons so I remember it very well. All of the jokes about how long ago that was hit me hard.

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>>84772743
>Getting ready to graduate high school
>Think the world is my osyter
>Now I'm pushing 30 and working a dead end job I hate

It hurt in the worst way

>>84772962
Nah I don't give a fuck about them winging about shooting each other. That's a legitimate problem. American culture allows it to happen. IF they had started screaming about gun control then it would have been libby agenda.

But yeah even going that far sort of shows that the writers are moving towards that sort of content. Season 4 looks bleak.