Defend this.

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And this.

>>84719034
Better than oreo babies

>>84719034
we already have two threads of this
use those

>>84719063
Was that really necessary?

I can't, Timm is a hack

>>84719314
I don't think he even touched her.

>>84719034
>>84719063
Why did they turn my waifu into a man hating rapist?

>>84719376
Oh, wait, my bad he had his hand on her arm for like, a second.

Holy shit, Timm is great. People complain about TKJ movie because of how Babs is treated in it so he says he will add a lot of new content focusing on her. That content is just Babs acting like a cunt and her fucking Bruce on a roof. Timm is a great troll, lol.

>>84719410
That's how all white women are now. They're just trying to be realistic.

>>84719034

Pretty hot, desu.

If it results in butthurt whiny articles froms sites like ComicsAlliance and TheMarySue then its more than worth it.

>>84719410
So we know that she actually deserved to be shot

This movie never should have been made.

>>84719678
No one is complaining except for autists on /co/.

>>84719724
That's the same thing I said about Civil War.

>>84719738
://mobile.twitter.com/JustPlainTweets/status/756621646472081408

Theres alot more than this

>>84719063
Literally did nothing wrong and likely would have walked away right before she threw him.

All that did was make the relationship even worse since the guy will blame the girl and the girl will feel guilty about it.
REAL HERO REAL HUMAN BEAN

>>84719738
Yeah, it is all over twitter and building.

>>84719063
Babs is mad at Bruce who is basically "I need my Space" but his space is the entire cosmos. So she takes it out on a poor Italian man.

>>84719738
twitter my man

>>84719847
That one is actually right though. Ostrander made Oracle.

It's also not criticizing the unnecessary shipping

>>84719034
How old is she again?

>>84719034
Batman always have a way to win.

>>84720267
Batman is the woman in the relationship, apparently

>>84720431
Actually it's pretty common for a guy to become distant after he's had his nut busted. I'm surprised he even answered her phone call.

He'll have to congratulate his Dick.

>>84720567
actually he regretted it and that's why she was a massive cunt the rest of the movie

>>84719034

thanks to the wisdom of solomon

>>84719738
it's all over tumblr and I first saw it on my Twitter of all places

>>84719063
This should be the webm in the OP, it's perfect bait

Do you guys think Moore will say anything? Has he said anything about TKJ at all yet?

>>84719063
>>84719034

Well everyone has been horny or in a bad mood.

so bruce is like 30 and barbara 20? i have no clue

>>84721575
moore doesn't give two shits about the killing joke anymore. he's done all he can to distance himself from it as it is.

but he has been dramatic in the past, so maybe.

>>84719034
WHAT THE FUCK

>>84721657
t. Woman with no self control

Shouldn't they focus more on Gordon?
He is the one getting tortured at the end.

>>84719034
>Defend this
My erection allows it

>>84719500
If only trolling was his intention...

>>84722642
>3 seconds of kissing and a bra
Kek.

>>84719063
So, are we supposed to pretend she didn't just assault some random guy over shit she doesn't even know about?

How much prep time would it take for Bruce to make babies?

>>84722960
Everything in the movie builds up Babs being a bitch. The movie ends at the shooting.

>>84722960
No. Timm loves the Joker, he wants you to sympathize with his decision.

>>84722995
No prep time, just give him a date rape drug.

is batman always this easy? i thought when he was being batman he was all about being the night.

>>84723085
>The movie ends at the shooting.
Kek

>movie ends with Joker, Batman, and Jim driving off into the sunset leaving her to bleed out.

>>84720341
Its only a 20 year difference no biggie

>>84723103
Batman is a slut anon. All you have to do is beat him in a fight.

>>84723103
This (and the Catwoman Nu52 hookup) is just shitty writing.

>>84723141
I did not know this

>>84719034
DEFEND THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RrkHmYpVAw

>>84719034
Is it bad that the thing that triggers me the most about this is 80's era Babs dropping Bruce in a fight?

>>84723141
But how could he be a slut if someone has to beat him in a fight?

>>84719063
kek

>>84719034
Why's she even after Batman and why do they end up fucking on a rooftop? I don't quite remember this part of The Killing Joke

>>84723258
Because he only loses when he wants it.

>>84719063
>and right after that the dude beat the shit out of his gf...
BRAVO BABS!

>>84723238
Not at all, just comfort yourself with this logic though
>>84723141
>>84723315
It adds up

>>84723141
Does that mean he and deathstroke have mashed pissers?

>>84723303
>I don't quite remember this part of The Killing Joke
That's because it's not in The Killing Joke.

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>>84719034

My legitimate reaction when I saw this.

What do you call a mix of interest, disgust, arousal and hilarity?

>>84723374
Deathstroke is a tiger, Anon.
Didn't you see the Teen Titans episode with Robin's PTSD?

I don't even know where to begin being outraged

>BATMAN put on his back by BATGIRL
>and then he TOUCHES HER BUTT
>and DOES SEX WITH HER

>Batman COMPLETELY BLINDSIDED
>by some lad, who's not special, he's not Deadshot, he's called fucking PARIS
>and then Batman cowers behind some boxes until BATGIRL comes and saves his ass?

Even the whole tone of the thing, the way it was narrated, the little vignettes at the library with her gay best friend, it felt like Sex and the City, young female professional tries to have it all: a career, a man and vigilantism.

Just fucking

??D?"?!

>R rated Batman
>This is the best they could to
This is tame as fuck.

>>84722960

>The movie ends at the shooting.

You're shitting me?

>>84723565
They're saving it up for the hype-realistic gut shot and Babs tits in the pictures.
DON'T LOOK MOM! THERE ARE NIPPLES IN THIS TURBOMATURE MOVIE! I'M GROWN UP NOW.

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>>84719034
>>84719063
Just watched it.

The parts after the BABS shit was actually really good.

I dont know what they felt they got by adding that shitty beginning part. I get that babs wants the bat dick but why the fuck would bruce actually fuck her?

Seriously, brings the movie down from like an 8/9 out of ten to a 6/7.

>>84719034
Fuck her and leave bruh

>>84723608
This is sarcastic right? They've literally shown clips of the climax of the GN in all the trailers.

>>84719034
I think it's the only way to incorporate Barbara in the story, because the Joker randomly shooting her sounds extremely retarded.

>>84723640
>They're saving it up for the hype-realistic gut shot and Babs tits in the pictures.
If only this was true.

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So is the focus in the film mostly just Barbara then?

Isn't that really missing the whole point of TKJ? I'm not really sure how either of those WebM's add to the story or do anything really meaningful. If anything it'd just make you sympathise less with this cunt

>>84719034
Honestly, all the prologue stuff. The first 28 minutes of the move, all POINTLESS! I literally skipped that far to where the actual story begins, then went and watched the prologue. It served no purpose.

What was the fucking point of all that time showing Babs when she was hardly in the actual book besides just for being a plot device?!

>>84723677
>The only way to incorporate her into the story is to turn her into Bruce's cock sleeve and then make her unlikeable in every scene afterwards.
This is much worse than her original role in the book.

Look, I'm as wierded out by this as anyone (for fuck sake Bruce, her dad is one of your few genuinely good friends), but at least here it's being portrayed as a heat of the moment thing on Barb's part that they immediately shy from, or at least Bruce does. From what >>84723234
shows, she pulls the "youth pines for love through sex" bit that people her age are naive enough to pursue

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Reminder that some pleb on youtube BTFO'd WB in his spare time.

https://youtu.be/uFEHTAnsmGU

>>84723677
Last I checked Joker's plan was to mindfuck Gordon.
Babs is in it in like 3 pages, the point is she's the fucking daughter of the commisioner. AND she just happens to be Batgirl.

>>84723700
Only the first 20 minutes, then it switches to just bats and joker time for the other hour of the film.

>>84723700
No. Joker and Batman are still the focus after the first 28 minutes. The start just happens to be terrible.

Isn't she with Dick at that time? What the fug

>>84721767
>>84721575
He's been on good terms with Timm in the past so he'll likely say nothing.

>>84720431
>he's never had a one night stand

"Just because we had sex doesn't mean can't still hang out"

I'm afraid it does DD, I'm afraid it does.

>>84723785
The problem is that it seems out of character for Bruce to be this impulsive. Especially the Bruce in The Killing Joke, who acts extremely rational and level headed in all of his other scenes in the book.

>>84723654

That's why I asked. It would make no sense to have the shooting after, at the end, but after seeing this thread it's in the realm of believability.

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>>84719034
>Muh Batman gets beat up and raped by Barbara

What is this shit

>>84723792
I fucking hate this "personal spin" bullshit on well-known works. They take these things and think "I can do better" when in reality nobody gives a shit, they want to see Alan Moore's comic brought to life not a re-telling.

>>84723831
Dick doesn't exist in TKJ, and when the book was published the two of them weren't a thing at all.

>>84723792
The redrawn version looks like a fucking flash animation.

>>84723940
Don't worry, it ends with the Funhouse climax just like the GN.

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But he said he love karen.

>>84724010
So does the original animation when you see it in motion...

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She sees his Bruce.

>>84719034
That steadily got less and less defendable as it went on.

>>84724010

Id much rather watch this desu senpai.

https://youtu.be/1_r-qsxGiKY

>>84724067
Nah, the redrawn looks worse, just look at Batman's cape while he's walking. It looks like a motherfucking umbrella and way more amateurish than DC's shitty version.

>>84719034

shes getting naked, whats not to like?

>>84724272
>Either way, we lose

>>84724309
The BabsBelt being magically glued to her shirt or the costume getting off that easily.

>>84724309
You can just look at Timm's artbooks if you want to see that.

>>84723960
>they want
Let me stop you right there. No one wanted this to exist except braindead WB execs.

>>84724416
Unfortunately the original version is out of print and goes for over 200 bucks these days.

>>84724027

>goes from blondes to redheads

His taste simply evolved, anon.

>>84724499
All of Timm's nude illustrations are on the net.

I'm five minutes in and it's already cringe inducing. Does it get better?

>Marvel completely changes Civil War
>" it's still good!!1!! '

>based Timm adds a little shipping scene
>" DELETE THIS "

What the fuck is wrong with you guys, seriously.

>>84724605
Just wait 28 minutes.

>>84724605
Start the movie from where the GN started.

>>84724635
Civil War was shit, remaking it was good.
TKJ was perfect, adding BatBitch as a prologue is bad.

>>84724635
The original Civil War event was garbage and benefited from the changes. The Killing Joke is not garbage and didn't need a useless prologue.

>>84724605
When the Batgirl prologue shit is over, yes.

The animation does not get better though.

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>>84724635
(You)

>>84720267
Jesus fucking Christ. When I watch this, I'm going to skip right to the GN parts.

>>84724573
.....where? Research purposes you understand.

>>84724705
Where can I watch this. The usual places aren't up yet

>>84719034
this is like incest

>the combination of this, the shitty animation, and the general overrated story of TKJ
lmao jesus this is a train wreck

>>84724723
>http://www.comicartfans.com/comic-artists/bruce_timm.asp
Research away

at least he isn't cucking his own adopted son this time around

just fucking his friend's daughter

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>>84724681
>remaking it was good
It's still awful and it also ignores the fucking consequences of WAR.

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>>84724813
>it's a 'something from DC is being criticized so I have to deflect to Marvel' thread

>>84724753
No it's not. Bruce's relationship to Barbra pre-crippling wasn't anywhere near as close as it was to any of the other Batfamily members at that point.

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>>84724416

I wish...

>>84724851
Yeah because marveldrones never do that right?

>>84724635
I don't like either. Civil War was shit and deserved to be retold properly, not as a subplot/framing device for something else.

>>84724813
It wasn't a War in the movie like it was in the event, it was one extended fight scene. The plot was focused on Buck, Cap, Stark and Zemo.

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>>84724896
>t-they did it first!!!!

>>84724882
See >>84724777

Don't you see? It gives her a character so that when she is shot later, we care for her and not just for her dad whose daughter was injured.

She's strong, sexually liberated, and takes charge. You go DC!

>>84724999
They should have focused more on Gordon.

>>84724904
>Civil War was shit and deserved to be retold properly
Why does a shit story deserve to be retold properly in a movie? The only thing Civil War deserved was retconning.

>>84719034
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS NO!

I DIDN'T WATCH IT YET BUT IT'S ALREADY FUCKING RUINED, THEY HAD ONE GOD DAMN JOB.

more than her fucking Bruce, are we really to believe that she could fucking take him down

>>84725084
>Dickfags

>>84719063
>throws him like superman
Wow WB you caved to the feminists

>>84719063
>Scorned woman gets all in someone else's business and assaults a random guy
>Pretty much a girl power moment complete with ending quip and walk-off

Jesus fucking christ. Someone tell Timm to stick to his drawn Babs porn. How long is the Babs prologue shit on for? How forward do I have to reasonably skip?

>>84724999
>basically the only notable female in the story
>make her fuck Batman in the movie cause why not
lol

>>84725150
Yes, because as the worlds greatest detective he deduced that if he allowed her to overpower him it would result in sexual intercourse.

>>84725183
28 minutes

>>84725150
Yeah it's stupid. pre-Nu52 Babsgirl was one of the worst fighters in the Batfamily.

>>84724943

Thanks. It's just I would love to own an actual physical book with out spending hundreds of dollars.

>>84719063
he probably climbed out of the bush and assaulted his girlfriend even harder after barbara left

>>84719034
Why did they add this? This wasn't in the comics. Feels like Bruce is fucking his daughter.

>>84719034
So...we all know that batman the animated series and the "Timmiverse" would have been shit without fox standing over him with a shotgun and mcduffie fixing his fuckups.

Anyway, white chicks in media have to be agressive cunts in all aspects of their lives from sex to how they deal with relationships.

Who'll never be called on anything by anyone till an evil man fucks them over and they are victimless and whatever.

And she gets to be a victim and batman can baw like a tween girl and wring his hands over it.

>>84723767
She's less bruce's cocksleeve and more...he's barbra's dildo in that scene.
Remember, they went out of their way to paint barbra as the sexual agressor and dominant in that scenario..cause..you know.
The opposite, which makes up 99.9% of all female made and aimed word porn, is bad in the eyes of the handful of lesbians and thirsty chicks and people who use feminism as a convenient way to make money.

>>84725225
Yeah, it sucks. I've never seen such expensive porn.

Did this come out? Did it leak early?

>>84725361
WB and Fox actually censored Dini's scripts (e.g RTOJ) more than Timm's story input/artwork.

>>84725153
I'm not that anon, but I ship Dick and Kory. The idea of Batman sleeping with his best friend's daughter disgusts me and even if that wasn't the case Barbra and Bruce's relationship is not and should not be that. It makes my skin crawl and if the rest of this prologue wasn't so god damn cringe inducing I'd be even more uncomfortable than I am now. I'm trusting the other anons who say that it gets better at the twenty-eight minute mark and Ive just reached that now, but so far this is the worst animated film DC has ever put out.

>>84725326
>Babs is equivalent to Bruce's daughter
What? The only Batgirl that Bruce is remotely that close with is Cass.

>>84724809
Dude, let's be honest.

No one who's going to look at this is going to be as canon savy as you are.
They are litterally going to be skeeved out by it.

And let's be honest about something else, the crappy gurl powah stuff that timm does with her completely fucks up the power dynamic that lures people too those types pairings.

>>84725361
>and mcduffie fixing his fuckups.

Don't forget Alan Burnett. B:TAS wouldn't have been as great without his work as story editor. It makes sense that Timm's latest project is a train wreck, while Burnett is working on JLA, which is getting a lot of deserved hype.

>>84719034
Why?

>>84724809
The TKJ is set post-crisis, so she's Jim's niece.

>>84725271
>assaulted his girlfriend even harder

He didn't hit her, or even verbally assault her.

But I can tell you one thing, instead of that being just an argument that they could have talked about and fucked to make up. It more then likely ended with him just completely dumping her and wandering off.

>>84725437
From what I'm seeing here they censored the fuck out of them both.
Also, I firmly believe that WB did fucking nothing when it came to Dini and Timm. Did you actually watch the new adventures of batman? That shit fluctuated between being skeevy and boring with only a few eps being watchable.

>spends the whole beginning preaching about sexualizing women
>first shot of Barbra running after the prologue zooms in on her ass and tits.

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>>84725206
The girl has moxie.

>>84725782
>Seeing here
You mean TKJ? Dini isn't involved at all, he doesn't do DC animation anymore.

>Did you actually watch the new adventures of batman? That shit fluctuated between being skeevy and boring with only a few eps being watchable.
I did as a kid, I enjoyed it enough. I watched Old Wounds a couple of weeks back and it was alright. The three seasons under the TAS banner were much better though.

Not like it's Mezzo Forte

Calm down nerds

>>84719063
Judging from the girls face she was supposed to be in the wrong there, you guys are just autists

>>84725874
Thats from Year One right? My point was when she was actually Batgirl (i.e pre-1988) she was never shown to be anywhere near Bruce's level.

>>84726024
At least there's a version of Mezzo Forte that cuts all the poorly drawn porn.

>>84724635
The difference is that comic Civil War was garbage.

>>84725874
Even when he's beaten, Dick still has time to show his ass. What a slut.

>>84725060
Because the premise was interesting, it was the poor execution that made it shit.

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>tfw just got done watching this
>tfw I found it the most disgusting DC Animation I've seen, including Son of Batman, JL:War and JL:ToA

Fuck DC. I forgot that this was coming out and was browsing some movie sites when I saw and I got really excited.

Never again.

>>84726137
>poorly

>>84725874
>referencing my favorite Barbara story
>This could have been great

Now you've got me mad.

>>84726251
It was always just a cheap excuse for heroes to fight each other.

>>84724635
That's because Civil War is regarded as total shit and Killing Joke is regarded as a masterpiece

If it weren't for Cap getting whacked nobody would have cared about Civil War

>>84726137
This still isn't anywhere close. You don't see tits

Who knew Bruce was a bottom?

>>84725981
He's not?
Ah, I see.
I still stand by what I said about TnaB was trash and timm and dini fucking up when not being kept on a tight leash.

>>84726137
>Mezzo Forte
>Poorly drawn porn
Nigga! I'll fight you!

>>84726284
The hentai shit in Mezzo Forte looks garbage compared to the rest of the OVA.

>>84726338
Superbat shippers.

>>84719034
Its a fun cartoon for kids!

>>84719034
I will not. Makes her out like a total slut and nails it with the 'so it was just sex' bullshit.

Give me back my childhood Batman.

>>84726431
He'd still probably be a top

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It was just kind of fine. The animation style was adequate, but it had no flair. The Joker dancing around in a cavalcade of circus freaks should be deeply unsettling, but it had no impact.

And I feel like the writers and the animators should have gotten together more to get their agendas on track. Barb's writing seemed pretty gurrrl power but then it's like "Here's Barbara jogging. Here's her ass. And here's her boobs. End scene".. It all should have been about ass and boobs desu.

>>84726251
The premise of Civil War was interesting when it was called the mutant registration act.

CW was just trash.

>>84726346
>He's not?
Nope. As far as I can tell he and Timm don't work together at all anymore. Dini's fared much better though, some of his Batman comics were actually pretty good and his new GN is really nice.

>I still stand by what I said about TnaB was trash and timm and dini fucking up when not being kept on a tight leash.
It's been too long since I've seen the whole season for me to properly judge. Though I've been putting off watching most of it during my recent BTAS binges.

Well, at least they didn't have Joker rape Barbra.

>>84726451
>Give me back my childhood Batman.
If you watched the TAS Batman as a kid then I've got news for you...

>>84726137

>poorly drawn porn

Have you watched any hentai from the last 15 years? Most of it makes my eyes bleed.

>>84726512
The pictures he took were rape :^)

>>84726137
Is there any hentai with animation as good as mezzo forte honestly?

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>>84723756
Timm tried to acknowledge a common criticism toward TKJ, using Barbara as a plot device and reduce her as a fuel to male characters's angst, the so-called woman in refrigerator; so Timm dedicated a prologue to Barbara for fleshed her out before the shot. Unfortunately, Timm made Barbara into a bigger tool than she ever was in TKJ for misguided attempts at GRRRLLL POWER and his personal fetish (self-inserting as Barbara for fucking Batman)

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>>84726512
Nor Batman raping the Joker.

>>84726512

b-but anon

she was in a state of undress

>>84726567
Not really. But given how poor the animation in some popular modern anime is I'm not surprised that current hentai looks like shit.

And this is it. Never thought I would be canceling a pre-order for a Killing Joke movie. Fuck DC.

>>84723982
Barbara was pretty much obsolete before TKJ was published.

>>84726586
I couldn't tell you honestly, but probably not? I always thought Mezzo Forte looked better in the non-H scenes though and that the actual hentai was dull as shit.

How big is Bruce's dick?

BarbxBatman could have been interesting if they'd gone further in reimagining and placed more emphasis on the duality of Batman and the Joker (Batman fucks Batgirl ina Batman way, in the middle of a fight, and the JUoker fucks Batgirl in a Joker way, with rapings and violence) but it just felt like it was all for nothing. It doesn't even seem like Batman really cares that Barbara was paralysed and implicitly ravaged.

What's with all the Nolan Batman dialogue?

>>84726710
I know. That's why it's ironic that people think the story ruined her.

>>84726744
>Joker raped Babs
Here we go again.

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>>84726743
BIG

>>84726597
>Implying Timm wanted to do anything other than shove is favourite ship into a movie
Bruce Timm doesn't give a fuck about SJW's.

>>84726831
>Joker shot Babs and deliberately paralysed her and then got her naked so he could take terrible pictures of her so he could drive her father insane but he didn't rape her because reasons

?

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>>84719034
Is that from the Killing Joke?

>>84726743
Smaller than Alfred's.

>>84726774
I think the feminists's problem with cripple Babs is that male characters get over their disadvantage because comics or even get a power up thanks to said disadvantage while Babs was confined to the wheelchair. To be fair, Moore didn't intend TKJ to be part of the main continuity but DC never gave a shit about Moore's opinion and cripple Babs was what DC execs love the most, a shallow character with a campy image (Batman 66) having a darker and edgier reboot

>>84726883
Joker is pure! PURE!

>turning the dun house ride into a musical number
Alright, that was pretty good

>>84724999
So she fucks around so I care more...? NO. She caves a fucking cat in a tree for a crying little girl, and I CARE MORE!

Not to be too over the top...

>>84726834

>Supes waves back

kek

>>84726883
It's not even remotely implied that he raped her. Do you honestly not think that he wouldn't of outrightly stated or taken a picture of his dick inside her to assist in his torture of Jim. Joker isn't exactly big on subtlety and it's not like Moore's writing exactly shies away from shit like that.

>>84724681
Killing joke is ok not perfect

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>>84726589

> Claims that they are imply that Batgirl was asking to be shot
> SO UNPROFESSIONAL GUYS!

You know you usually have to give reasons as to why you think certain things. You're not allowed to just make claims and stop.

>>84726834
>5'10"
>huge

Dick is borderline manlet

>>84726869
The current industry actually care about the SJWs despite they don't buy books, there have been countless threads about it on /co/, and Moore isn't popular on DC, especially after Rebirth; so it isn't farfetched some exec asked Timm to give Batgirl a bigger role because sexism.

>>84726925
Her tenure as Oracle was quite literally the only time she was a good character though. Even if they hate what the story did to her (which is understandable), to say it ruined her is flat out untrue.

>male characters get over their disadvantage because comics or even get a power up thanks to said disadvantage while Babs was confined to the wheelchair.
This seems like splitting hairs. post-resurrection Jason never got over his disadvantage and was actually worse off in terms of both portrayal and mental state (pre-Nu52 ofcourse). Whereas other female Batfamily members who were fridged like Steph Brown and Kathy Kane have been better portrayed after they were resurrected.

>>84726535
No... (whimper)

>>84727131

The comic "industry" is peanuts compared to what you can get from movie adaptations. Comics are just about either maintaining property rights or potentially incubating future movie franchises.

>>84727131
If DC had Timm on a leash over sexism then Gods and Monsters Harley never would have happened.

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does batman think the whole situation is funny?

>>84727036
>> Claims that they are imply that Batgirl was asking to be shot
>> SO UNPROFESSIONAL GUYS!
I'm not watching the video, but did she seriously said that? I mean, I hate the sex scene because it just doesn't makes any sense and it wasn't part of the original story, but no way she said that.

>>84727104
That's pretty big for a Dick. Hell it's so big it's got a last name.

>>84727212
>Implying Hollywood doesn't cater to SJWs too
Watch TV, especially cartoons

>>84727249
holy shit, the animation is really bad, I thought you guys were kidding.

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>>84727249

>>84727131
The Killing Joke is an anti-SJW story, they all hate it and no changes will ever make them like it. Timm comes from a different era, he doesn't care about any of their nonsense.

>>84724367
>not having a super suit with an emergency escape seem in the case of napalm or surprise coitus
The problem is that it is one time use. Batgirl needs an entirely new bat suit.

>>84723952
>beat
Obviously he let her because he either knew she wouldn't hurt him or new she would hurt him in all the right ways

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>>84727302
They'll never look good again, the sales can't justify it.

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>84727131

> Timm to DC/WB
> Hey, there's not a lot of content in TKJ to fill a whole movie
> Why don't we expand Batgirls story to pad out the length
> At the same time we'll be highlighting a female character and that's good right?

Bruce pulled a fast one.

>>84727361
>Batgirl needs an entirely new bat suit.
She doesn't need one at all by the time the movie is over.

>>84719034
>Batman having sex with his proteges
I know this isn't knew, but does this trigger anyone else?

>>84727402
I was wondering why the animation quality in these DTVs seemed to be gradually declining

>>84727402
why the fuck are they doing animated movies? why can't they just fucking do a decent animated movie with CGI or pixar level shit?

>>84727437
sick, but LOL!!

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>>84719034
Does anyone have one?

>>84727450
All I know is if Reddit and feminists are flipping their shit
It must mean the movie is average and probably entertaining
Stop being a faggot

>>84727450
>I know this isn't knew
It's not exactly common either. Batman Beyond 2.0 and (if you want to count her as a protege) the original Batwoman are the only two times it's happened before this.

>but does this trigger anyone else?
Judging by the fact that there have been several 500 reply strong threads filled with essays about how shit it was, I'm going to say yes.

>>84727518
>if it pisses of these groups I hate it must be good teehee!
You have to be ver 18 to post here.

>>84719264
nothing is ever "really necessary"
>>84719034
I don't need to.
>>84726030
she is in the wrong. its just kind of funny how she acts like a madwoman
>>84721657
yeah but that would never fly in the court

>>84727131
>The current industry actually care about the SJWs despite they don't buy books,

Do you say this to yourself over and over looking into a mirror with tears streaming down your face, willing yourself to believe it's true?

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>>84727257

Starts about 1m50s. She makes a poor horror movie analogy and then literally says;

"Was Batgirl asking for this you know, because she was having sex on rooftops?"

She seems to think that the creators of he movie are implying that Batgirl somehow was asking for/deserved what happened to her, which is completely asinine.

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>>84727249

>>84727518
don't be a faggot. movie does seem to shit on all girl power stuff because it just makes things worse and batgirl does not really have good control over her emotions.She is not the robot ass kicker reddit may expect

>>84727675
>Batgirl somehow was asking for/deserved what happened to her
After >>84719063 she did. Joker is the hero we deserve.

>>84727503
That's be very expensive, it's too risky. They know people like seeing kids cartoons and they know they like seeing live action superheroes, but it's unknown whether a lot of people would go see a superhero cartoon. Mask of the Phantasm's theatrical release didn't do all that well, though it was released under extenuating circumstances (rushed out with no budget increase, matinee-only, limited theaters).

>>84727518
few times I did spot the "male gaze" and it made me feel good

>>84726925
>I think the feminists's problem with cripple Babs is that male characters get over their disadvantage because comics or even get a power up thanks to said disadvantage while Babs was confined to the wheelchair.

Peoples problem with that story line is that Babs is crippled and demeaned so a bunch of male characters can have sad faces over it

The stuff post that story doesn't factor into it. Nobody had a problem with Oracle, there's a lot of positives about that character. But you can like while also thinking that she was gold created from a pile of garbage.

>>84719034
Batman attacked her, but she was able to beat him off

>>84727771
>"male gaze"
I hope you aren't implying that only men would check out a woman's T&A, you cisgender cunt.

>>84727820
>Peoples problem with that story line is that Babs is crippled and demeaned so a bunch of male characters can have sad faces over it
Welcome to the life of a supporting cast member. Barbara Gordon only served the needs of other peoples' stories. There was never a Batgirl solo until Cassandra Cain.

>>84726589
>some retard said something
why should I care? also is she implying that batgirl was a virgin before this? I don't think she gets what R rated means

>>84727857
Im sorry that was very heteronormative of me.What I meant to say was "The gaze of people who have sexual or ascetic appreciation of the female body"

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>>84719034
Defend this

>>84728028

it's Extremely Good

>>84727820

>so a bunch of male characters

You mean main characters. All "drama" is manipulation granted there's good writing and cheap writing, but utilizing a characters misfortune is one of the oldest writing techniques.

>>84726925
>get over their disadvantage
is not that itself triggering?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThrowingOffTheDisability

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>>84719034
I just finished this pile of shit. There was no payoff. This makes me wonder why the original comic is so highly praised...

>>84728069
This. anyone who has read a story with female lead knows the same stuff happens to the male cast.

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>>84727820
>so a bunch of male characters can have sad faces over it
I know right. It wasn't even in character for Joker to have a sad face about Babs.

>>84727518
>>84727559
The only people I want Bruce having sex with are the occasional seductive villains and some one night stands with super models.

The idea that Bruce is banging the people he inducts into his bat vigilante group paints him in a completely different light. Him being a nut fighting crime is excusable so long as he is noble as fuck, but him being fucked up in the head in other ways quickly turns Bruce into an anti-hero of sorts.

>>84728078
Read the original comic

>>84727131
You think making her a clingy slut was for the sjw?

I know we like to blame them for everything, but come on

>>84727402
Wonder Woman and Green Lantern films did well, why doesn't DC give them more films?

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>>84724723
You can see one of 'em in the movie.

>>84727873
>There was never a Batgirl solo until Cassandra Cain.
There wasn't even a good Batgirl until Cassandra Cain

So I was the only one who got upset we didn't actually see a sex scene?
I had to look up a porn parody of them 2 after the movie just to clean the pipes

>>84728078
it was read by kids and edgy people. the target audience loved it the same way they loved guardian devil and other "iconic stuff" just like how YA books for girls get 5 stars even when they are shit.

>>84728182
Cassfags are a plague on the planet, but this much is true

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Enjoy fucktards.

http://putlockerfree.com/watch-batman-the-killing-joke-2016-movie-online-6014.html

I'm sad because I thought it was pretty shit. Especially the first half hour.

>>84728151
>The idea that Bruce is banging the people he inducts into his bat vigilante group paints him in a completely different light.
Agreed. Though the Batwoman one that the other anon mentioned is justified because she was just a honey trap.

>>84728173
It was probably like >>84727420
It just that Timm allowed his fetish to take over

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>>84728151
>Him being a nut fighting crime is excusable so long as he is noble as fuck, but him being fucked up in the head in other ways quickly turns Bruce into an anti-hero of sorts.
there is beauty in both version

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>>84728212
Thanks, anon.

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>>84728051

>>84719034
I can't.

Barbara should, by all means, be wearing a sports bra or something less immobile and uncomfortable than a regular everyday bra underneath her batsuit.

>>84728200
I'm not even a Cassfag. I just happen to know that Babs and Bette Kane were both boring as fuck, and Cass wasn't.

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is this Harley cute?

>>84727513
Check TPB.
>>84728078
It was the first time we got Joker's origin, the first time Gordon/Batman has been pushed this far toward insanity, and depicted unprecedented woman abuse.

Fast-forward 20+ years. The Joker origin is now well-known, the Arkham games made sure that casual fans know about Oracle, and we see Joker literally get into Batman's head. TKJ doesn't have any of the impact it did back in the day.

>>84728212
>I'm sad because I thought it was pretty shit. Especially the first half hour.
Anyone expecting the half an hour of original material to match the source material was kidding themselves.

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Tfw you liked the prologue more than rest of the movie

>>84728212
>Watching shit qulity

So did this leak outta Comic Con? Are there torrents up with the full thing now?

>>84728312
>Nu52 Harley in muh Killing Joke
Timm is a fucking hack. The references to Batman'89 and TDK are appreciated though.

>>84728294
Cass was a waifu with a shtick. her ride is good for some feels but people constantly overstate its quality

>>84719034
Some guy hears noise and looks at the rof
>HOLY SHIT!!!! MAMA!!! A RED HEADED GIRL IS FUCKING BATMAN ON THE ROOF.

>>84728318
>It was the first time we got Joker's origin
No it wasn't. The Red Hood origin had been around long before TKJ, the failed comedian/dead wife/unwilling participant stuff is the only new part.

>>84728318
>It was the first time we got Joker's origin
Moore cribbed from the silver age Red Hood story.
>depicted unprecedented woman abuse.
Eh, Moore had written plenty of things before Killing Joke.

>>84728347
I think I know that feel.

>>84728348
The animation alone makes it shit quality.

>>84728312
This is the only part that made me chuckle a bit. Also reminded me of that great joker fish episode of BTAS.

>>84728348
i don't want to give this movie that luxury

>>84724027
>flash's face
reaction image plz

>all this Moby Dick
I can't handle the poetry

>>84728433
>>84728428
Confession time: I wasn't even born when TKJ was released. That post came right out of my ass, kek. I assumed it was fairly accurate though

>>84728392
Notice Joker's disdain in his eyes when looking at Harley and the fact he has a gun. Timm has already talked about not liking that style of Harley.

>>84727750
>Mask of the Phantasm's theatrical release didn't do all that well, though it was released under extenuating circumstances (rushed out with no budget increase, matinee-only, limited theaters).
that was 23 years ago, they just need to do something pg-13 and that's it, they would get a shit ton load of money with a decent CGI or animated film with a good international release.

>>84728404
I never said she was the best Batfamily member. But compared to Babs and Bette she's far better. At least the concept behind her was somewhat inspired (before she learned to speak).

>>84728412
>>HOLY SHIT!!!! MAMA!!!
implying he does not just quietly touch himself

>>84728442
it looks better in 720p. animation is shit but the style is good

>>84728502
At least you tried. It was the first time that anyone tried to humanise him, but not the first time he was given an origin.

>>84728505
>Timm has already talked about not liking that style of Harley.
But he praised the SS costume, which follows the same template.

>>84726597
Dude, this wasn't for the average comic fan or even people who want decent cartoons in america.

This was for those complete fucking losers who bitch and moan anytime a female character isn't some creepy lame ass agressive pansexual always right always hot uber bitch.

And they got exactly what they wanted. They are now pretending to hate this because litterally everyone hates what they wanted and them being honest and backing this will expose them as deluded retards.

>>84719034
It'll explode in hot porn and fap fics. THere.

>>84719034
>>84719063
it made me erect

>>84728570
>the style is good
It's garbage compared to it's source material. At least TDK tried to incorporate some of Millers hallmarks with the bulky designs and stuff, this is just lazy.

>>84727820
I don't think Killing Joke was originally meant to be a canon story in the comics, the complaint of what it did to barbara was after the fact when they made it canon.

>>84728570
The character models look wrong to me, I'd prefer them if they were more Timm and less aping-Bolland. I felt the same way about the DKR character designs in Legends of the Dark Knight versus the DKR DTV.

>>84719063
There isn't. This part is legit shit.

>>84728650
That's sad.

You know what the worse thing is.
Some horse show fan is going to take the audio and use it in a sex flash between spike and purple hrose.
> Oh come on. It was just sex for God sake. It doesn't have to mean anything. We don't have to care. I don't care. You don't care. We just go back to what it was. Please.

>>84728653
>Although there has been speculation as to whether or not editors at DC specifically intended to have the character's paralysis become permanent, Brian Cronin, author of Was Superman A Spy?: And Other Comic Book Legends Revealed (2009) noted that DC had hired Barbara Kesel to write the Batgirl Special specifically to retire the character and set her in place for The Killing Joke.

so did he rape her in this version?

>>84728653
It wasn't. But people would have still complained even if had just ended up being an iconic stand alone GN (like DKR).

>>84720627
Dang it Bruce! You have to give her continual shots of the D after the first.

>>84728710
Joker is saving his dick for Batman.

>>84728698
ah, I see now.

>>84728674
It's great if you hate Barbara Gordon and enjoy the Timm/Frank Miller interpretation of her as a deranged fangirl.

>>84719034
I swear I read a fap fic that had this set up...

>>84728698
Moore has said that he never intended for it to be canon when he wrote it.

>>84728652
>It's garbage compared to it's source material.
source material is not animatable
>>84728666
some things looked bit wonky a the time but it reminded me of a less polished BTAS

>>84728780
There's no source for that and that's not really how he writes things.

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it really needed the original color style

>>84728772
>implying Timm or Frank invented this interpretation
Babs was infatuated Batman way before ASB&R.

>>84728772
this or if you like the rage issues she had under gail simone

>>84728312
>Dead audience from TDKR
>Love that Joker!
>Pagliacci costume from Batman '66
>TDK jail scene
>muh Jason
>Harley because why not
>Laughing Fish
>First appearance of Joker in 1940
>This one seems vaguely familiar but I can't place it
>Laffco Toy Company from BTAS

>>84728789
>source material is not animatable
True. But making no attempt to mimic Bollands style when the art (with the original palette) was one of the most praised things in the GN was a mistake. Everything here looks generic as fuck.

>>84719034

Why let this happen? He's practically her dad.

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>>84727821

>>84727249
I think it was more of a
>wow I am so done with this guy
type of laugh

>>84728392
Was it Timm who did the first design or was that Paul

>>84728830
Yeah, but that was wacky innocent silver age stuff. This is a deconstructive take on that.

>>84728907
Because apparently everyone has to ride Batman's dick before all is said and done...

I seriously feel for every male character in Gotham that isn't Batman right now... Welcome to cuck city

>>84719034
How long till someone release an edit that's 1:1 with the comic?

>>84720267
OP, thank you for posting these so I'll know not to waste my time on this shitty movie. Goddamn.

>>84728828
So is there going to be nudity?

>>84728942
Timm designed classic Harley, Dini's original sketch was an eyesore.

>>84728942
I don't have it on hand, but some initial sketches of Harley in the Batman: Animated book that I think are by Timm. Pretty sure Dini actually decided the jester look after seeing Arleen Sorkin in a jester costume though.

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>>84728942
Paul Dini. Timm came out with the jester one

>>84728629
>This was for those complete fucking losers who bitch and moan anytime a female character isn't some creepy lame ass agressive pansexual always right always hot uber bitch
Marvel comics audience?

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>>84729018
most you get is Barb in her bra for a few frames and panties in another shot

>>84727316
I wonder what those cops thought of Batman and the Joker cracking up over something or other

>>84728902
Well that is true. I have seen some hentai become unfappable when animated but there is just no way to port such complexity and there is no guarantee the style would look good in motion.That is one of the losses of a medium change, I mean just think if they made it live aciton

>>84729046
This looks very Jetsons-y

Batman x Batgirl shipping only existed to prove Bruce isn't gay.

Everytime it comes up I always feel like it's tacked on and unnatural. It's never as natural as other straight Batman ships.

>>84728982
>implying
every comic character is a slut. There is no team book in DC or marvel where the whole team has not slept with each other at some point it time.

>>84728972
ASB&R is so silly that it might as well be a bloody silver age story. There's no real difference.

>>84729131
Who's got a case of the not gays

>>84728907
that part made me think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIbEHxvp6v0
>>84729018
no

>>84729131
>Batman x Batgirl shipping only existed to prove Bruce isn't gay.
That was Batman and the first Batwoman.

>>84729131
>Batman x Batgirl shipping only existed to prove Bruce isn't gay.
I think you are thinking about the original batwoman
>>84728972
>deconstructive
will people ever start using that word correctly again?

>>84729147
Not being constrained by the CCA makes a huge difference, that's what made the silver age what it was compared to the golden age, where it didn't exist, or the bronze age, which came about when they relaxed some of their harshest rules.

>>84719034
>>84720267

Batman is pretty damn awkward. I bet he was like a dead fish during sex.