WHEN DOES THIS NIGHTMARE END?

>>84711212
TTG is pretty good. PPG is shit and i can't rate the New Ben 10 but looks like shit too

>>84711212
Making it cuter makes it last longer in this day and age.

Still think the new Ben is ugly design wise.

When CalArts burns to the ground and its degrees are made worthless.

>>84711212
TTG is actually not that bad.
the real problem is that shitty reboot of PPG.
and for me Ben 10 was always shit and i don't considers that part of real cartoon network anyway.

The act of animation is repetitive, time consuming, and expensive. Unless you use flash, then you just tween the everliving shit out of your flat uniteresting character designs. The nightmare will never end.

>>84711212
PPG shit looks the same to me there.
TTGO is pretty gud.
I never watched B10 so I don't give a fuck cause I always thought it was shit.

TTG hate is misplaced. It was never trying to be the original Teen Titans.

The rest is right though. Samurai Jack is the only hope.

>>84711212
PPG looks the exact same tho

When good animation becomes cheaper and toys sales

>>84711212

But Gwen looks cute, even if she's a reboot.

Ben 10 was never good.

>>84711212
Happened to TMNT too, if you are talking about artstyle that is

>>84711659
This show started out as shorts based directly on the original show. The style of the show just changed significantly once CN decided to turn those shorts into a full television program.

>>84711668
No, it doesn't

the current art style looks like a family guy parody at best

>>84711212
JUST

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>>84711659
>Unironically defending TTG

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Ben 10 never looked good. TTG is a completely different direction from the original and I don't see why people are still mad about it. It's like complaining about that chibi Attack on Titan show

>>84712024
Chibi Attack on Titan didn't actively kill an entire genre

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>>84711348
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>>84711659
>All these people thinking TTG is actually a great show.

>>84712024
>Ben 10 never looked good
The first one did

>>84712154
Maybe your just way too old to enjoy anon

>>84711919
>>84712154
>/co/'s regular issues with comedy shows.

This is the future you chose

>>84711212
I don't think the original Ben 10 looked all that great barring the alien designs.

>>84712184
No Ben 10 was one of this 2005-2006 crappy shows who completly ruins the channel, only 2000's people will defend this.

>>84712242
I guess NeoPPG is a misunderstood gem too huh?

>>84712290
>who completly ruins the channel
It saved CN what are you talking about?

>>84711212
>the holy trinity of reboots

>>84712316
You are just an angry nerd who doesn't like how his favourite superheros get treated

>>84712284
Looks a hell of a lot better than this shit.

>>84712290
Yeah, Ben 10 sucked ass

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>>84711659
TTG is complete trash outside of 2 or 3 episodes.

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>>84711212
>Rebooting Ben 10
Hope that at least it's somewhat good

>>84712378
No, I'm an angry nerd who doesn't like being fed shit

>>84711212

>ppg
>2005

what

>>84711552

So you don't like the original ppg?

>>84712131
>Chibi Attack on Titan didn't actively kill an entire genre
What genre would that be, exactly?

>>84712714
Ppg aired its last episode in Mar 2005

>>84712776
Gee, I wonder

What genre did CN used to have a decent amount of but now has none? Hmmmm?

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>>84711212
>Mfw I realize we watched the death of action cartoons as it happened

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Fun fact: the reason they keep rebooting a lot of shows with needless name changes and visual design changes is because there are laws in place that demand that the people working on a show thst goes past a certain number of seasons get a considerable raise. This is usually because the pay for first seasons is usually kind of shit.

Basically it's all an excuse to underpay people, it'll happen to ttgo in a year or two.

>>84713472
How much are the people at Spongebob getting paid?

>>84711212
When the very notion of nostalgia is so thoroughly condemned from our collective conscious that we refuse to form pleasant memories for fear that they will be exploited later.

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>>84713472
Actually CN rebooted PPG because they wanted to sell merchandise, toys were already developed before the show even aired
The reason the show looks like shit is because CN rushed the team to produce the first season as fast as possible to meet with the release of the products

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Fuck. You know what's gonna happen, right /co/?
Megas is gonna come back as one of these monstrosities.
It's like Blackest Night up in this bitch. Everything /co/ loves that died is coming back as some horrible monster and we can't stop it.

>>84712887
Shitty meme shows? Idk brother, I don't see the point you're making

>>84713714
>nostalgia
not everyone was 12when those old shows existed. Nostalgia is literally linked to that stage of the human development. It's not the easy "I win" card people think it is.

>>84711212
TTGo can be decent.

HA! Lets see people lust over Gwen now!

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>>84711212
>New Gwen design is unfappable

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>>84714387
Then you're a idiot, and I'm not gonna spoon feed to you.

>CN not having anymore shitty meme shows
lel

>>84715247
Speak for yourself.

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>>84711212
PPG ended in 2004 numbskull

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>>84711212
Why does Gwen looks like a boy with girl hair?

>>84711212
>they made the kids look even younger in ben 10 reboot
for what reason

>>84715417
Small girls tend to just look like boys with girl hair/clothes.

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>>84715382
My dick has no standards, I can and have fapped to current Squirrel Girl but I still realize it looks like trash.

>>84715317
Not as big as idiot as the guy who think TTG killed superhero shows

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>>84715489
I've fapped to squirrel girl too

>>84711212
Man, the art is nothing compared to the plotlines and overall writing, I could stomach shit art if at least the writing was decent. but NOPE.

>>84715489
>>84715560
Kill each other or don't reproduce

Even if the art is shit, at least the animation is better than nuPPG.

>>84711212
It's simple, we kill all children

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>>84715642
SLB makes them too thicc, I get the need to breed.

>>84715386
Actually there were new episodes airing in 2005, last one was in March

>>84715461
I know but now she just looks like a boy with a wig

wait, they made a remake of fucking BEN10? And it even looks worse than the original???

aahahahahaha

wait wait

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But seriously, these designs do not scream "action series". It is still action, right? Or is this another TTGo?

>>84711552
you realize every animation you like was made by calarts right?
>>84712419
no, all of them are terrible

>>84712154
you're old to be continue seeing cartoons...

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TTG aims for a different demographic and it's not meant to be a direct continuation like the others
I hate when people say that this show ruined cartoons or their childhood. The teen titans they grew up with is not like the comic books.
The show is meant to be a caricature

>>84711659
>TTG hate is misplaced
How? It started off as a worse version of the Teen Titans shorts from the get go, then straight-up insulted anyone that criticized it. They've been building the hatedom for years.

>>84717760
I don't compare TTG to the original when I call it shit, it's shit on its own, it could be a show that has absolutely nothing to do with any previously existing cartoon and it would still be shit.

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>>84711212
It'll end when CGI replaces 2D animation completely.

>>84715529
Yes, because Beware the Batman did SO well didn't it?

>>84714037
CN will have to buy the rights back from the United States Government if they want to make MEGAS XLR again.

>>84711212
as soon as you change the channel

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>>84715247
Nigga is that a challenge?

>>84718654
i assume that will kill me. oh sweet release.

So why do people hate ttgo, I haven't watched the show entirely yet, but from what I saw its seems pretty fun?
I think I am gonna watch it once I finish the og series.
I mean look at this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR131fc2pZY

>>84711212
Include the new Scooby Doo reboot and Wabbit.

nuPPG Comic Con panel tomorrow

Is /co/ ready?

>>84721855
Some /co/ autist is going to make scene and give the crew more attention and the opportunity to
victimize themselves. seriously if no one goes to the panel the fucking thing just die by itself.

>>84721510
Because most of it is pure garbage.

Right now, I'm just waiting for Dexter's laboratory reboot. I know there were no announcments so far, but just admit it, it's inevitable.

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>>84711212
It's just a dejavu

>>84726038
I'd fuck loli Velma, no lie.

>>84711212
Ha ha holy shit, I hadn't seen the Ben 10 one yet.

Whoever re-designed Gwen needs to sit down and reconsider their position as a character designer. I can't say the original design was exactly the crux of animation but holy shit. Her entire body is a stiff straight line.

Fuck, I don't even like the original Ben 10.

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>>84727411
I know Omniverse wasn't popular or anything and most of the redesigns sucked, but I kinda like his Ominverse design the best out of all of them. He just looks like he should get punched in the face in the rest of the designs.

Granted this is from an outsider's perspective, I never really watched much of Ben 10 since I didn't really like it.

>>84727411
>NuBen is even worse than Alien Force Ben

How do you fuck up this bad

At least NuGwen doesn't look near as bad as Alien Force Gwen

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>>84711212
it's a passing fad, much like the babification craze of the early 90s
>a pup named Scooby-Doo
>Tom and Jerry Kidd
>Tiny Toons
etc

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>>84727448
Whoops, made those too small

>>84727764
I dont think the Alien Force designs were that bad. Omniverse Ben is the worst, though AF Gwen and nuGwen are basically tied for me as "worst"

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>>84727869
>How can we change up his design, aside from making him look retarded?
>What if we just make his shirt green and put a 10 on it, and invert the colors of his shoes
>also, change his green pants into pukegreen tight shorts

>>84711212
cnn has always been throwing out d's and f's with the occasional a

>>84727926
You know, I don't know I want to see more

Just OS Gwen getting the dick while NuGwen is told she's worthless

or

All the Gwens getting dicked except for AF Gwen, who is the one being told is useless.

>>84727869
>>84727926
Boy, if Ben and Gwen's redesigns are this bad, I can't wait to see Kevin. He's always the one who truly seems to get the biggest dickings when it comes to redesigns [spoilers]fucking Omniverse's design, god damn[/spoiler]

Unless he's being cut out, which wouldn't surprise me in the least.

>>84727926
>AF loliGwen with fish lips
kek

>>84711212
next will be baby versions like the looney toons

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>>84711348
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>>84711659
>TTG is pretty good

>>84726038
A pup named scooby doo was surprisingly good, hell it was the first iteration of Scooby Doo that dared giving Daphne and Freddy actual personalities.

>>84727869
OV Ben just as the rest of DJW designs looks better in motion than in concept, something that i cannot say about current Ben.

>>84730221
I also liked the lucasarts vibe it had to the design of the show. as if you are watching a point and click adventure game unfolding before you.

man they missed a good chance to have made that into a game.

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>>84715247
Eh, I've fapped to worse.

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>>84726038
Why does this shit even happen?
When will the current batch of of chibi-shit end?

>>84727926
Left to right, patrician, to wealthy pleb, to poorfag pleb, to freemen, to slave

>>84711212
So how long till cartoons are just back to being black and white to save cost?

>>84716776
I'm sorry kid, but you have to be 18 or older to use this website. Parental permission doesn't cut it here.

>>84711212
now seeing those mediocre (if not terrible) reboots, I am glad some cartoons/shows die young and remember as something else, not as some soulless puppets.

>>84716776
I saw your episode and I hated it. Go back to writing Teen Titans Go, and cut it out with the Fuck the Haters episodes. And stop trying to piss people off intentionally while you're at it.

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>>84726038
> Implying Pup Named Scooby Doo wasn't GOAT
Nigga, it's the only "baby" version of the original show to ACTUALLY be good. And I saw basically all of those shitty ass babified versions of those characters, and Tom and Jerry Kids and Flintstone Kids were complete cancer.

>>84726038
Muppet Babies was based af tho.

>>84726038
Pup Scooby and Muppet Babies were actually good.

But, yeah... Tom & Jerry Kids was shit... but then T&J is kinda the worst of the old cartoons anyway.

Never even knew there was a Kid Gadget, that sounds and looks retarded.

Flintstone kids... I barely remember from 90s CN, but I recall it being shit.

Baby Loony Toons was just... well, it was for an age demographic around the character's designed ages.

I really don't want to know about Baby Felix there.

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>>84726038
Oh hey, I remember Baby Looney-Toons, that shit was the bane of my existence, it was so mind numbingly boring and it was always before a show I actually wanted to watch.

>>84726038
I still don't understand why the channel had the guts to air one of this show 24/7. I mean, kids are immature, but not THAT immature.

>>84711212
Why does it look like it was made in go animate?

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>>84715920

>I know but now she just looks like a boy with a wig

>>84711212
This is slightly unrelated because this isn't a CalArts meme thread as opposed to a general meme thread, but why do character designers find bean-head so appealing? It's so incorrect from an anatomical standpoint. Not even an endearing in the way Disney/Schlesinger stylization is; a fucking bean. It's completely random.

>>84735675

The bean shape that seems to be very popular with CN now can be turned without changing the contour. They are using the same head and face shape for front, 3/4, and side views, with the rearranging of facial features being the only clue that the head is turning. This is lazy, but effective with flash-style animation.

This is also why all the eyes are circles that don't change with perspective.

>>84735675

1. Cheap to design

2. Cheap to animate

3. China

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>>84727926
>left design has never been used

This is a crime and I will make someone pay

>>84736282
Actually more like Korea, most of the out sourcing of animation these days in the States have been going there for quite awhile now.

>>84711212
when you stop being a parasite and start producing your own licensed cartoons

>>84711212
To be fair it's just an artistic choice made to lean to the seriousness, complexity and aesthetic tastes of differing audiences.

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>>84711348
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>>84711919
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>>84733379
Guys please, Teen Titans was never good.

Why are so many people on /co/ delusional about the current state of animation? We have taken a massive step backwards and you all know it

>>84713140
Hopefully Justice League Action won't be pure memeshit

>>84736497
Specifically why? Because cartoon network is doing reboots?
What about Voltron which is pretty great? What about SU, Gravity Falls, Star Vs and the other shows /co/ hates but are great?
What about gumball? And Clarence? And the loud house? And samurai jack? And venture bros?
Just because you think its not as good as anymore doesn't mean you are right.

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>>84713140
Hey man, If Justice League Action is good, it might revive Action Cartoons.

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>>84736615
What aBOUT Clarence

>>84735675
>>84736263
this instantly brought into my mind for some reason

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1022325-gravity-falls

>>84736615

Kinda just meant how they look. Which is shit outside of Ultron and Venture Bros

>>84736732
Are you seriously saying that Gumball looks shit??

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>>84736757

Are you seriously saying this looks good ? You really are delusional

>>84736782
>hating on what is probably the best show on that channel right now
Also you can't really hate on AWoG character design, they vary it so much with all the characters it's almost eerie

>>84736927

It's poorly animated.

>>84711212
WAKE ME UP!

>>84736959
>seamless interactions of different animation mediums
>"It's poorly animated."

Such a high horse you got there.

>>84713538
>How much are the people at Spongebob getting paid?
Fuckin truckloads

>>84736959
>comedy show doesn't have fast animated action scenes
Who would have though?
Can't remember any animation error so you are just spouting memes.

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>>84711212
I spotted the 90's faggot

>>84711348
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>>84712316
>not liking based PPG

this taste is pretty bad senpai
look at this faggot

Pedos and 90's faggots are not happy, just call them retarded and move on

My problem with TTG isn't that it's shit (it mostly is tho), but that they constantley mocked the lack of an actual ending to TT. Like all the time. Especially that "haha we totally beatslade" shit was like being spit in the face. But night begins to shine was good. And I actually liked teeny titans.

>>84736480
Regardless, it was still better than Teen Titans Go and that's including comedy.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRCqfQQRpYo
>Man of Action came from the future

>>84711212
>WHEN DOES THIS NIGHTMARE END?
>Shitty pseudo animu
>cartoons

It finally ended, I thought we would never be rid of that shit on the left.

>>84737444
I don't get what's so seamless about it. The backgrounds are photorealistic 3DCG, the characters are flat cartoon characters that don't look like they're really there.

>>84737839
Doesn't say anywhere that a comedy can't have action scenes.

>>84743660
You know what? I kinda agree?

I'll probably get a lot of shit for this, but personally I really enjoyed the cartoony art style of TTG, if nothing else.

Can't stand this Family Guy aproach for Ben10, but I did really enjoy Omniverse's art style and I appreciate that Ben looks a lot more like a laid down teen, unlike UA's young adult look.

I just don't want all cartoons to turn into souless flash animated cartoons and take this easy to animate route, just cause its cheeper. Even if said show ends up being written amazingly, if it looks like Johnny Test, I probably won't be able to sit through it...

>>84743928
A comedy not having action scenes has nothing to do with the animation, don't move goalposts.
>The backgrounds are photorealistic 3DCG, the characters are flat cartoon characters that don't look like they're really there
That's the whole fucking point, conflicting character designs

>>84744017
Someone said Gumball is poorly animated, you interpreted that as him complaining about a comedy show not having action scenes and said that it's obvious that a comedy show wouldn't have them. I just said that there's no reason why a comedy show can't have action scenes.

>That's the whole fucking point, conflicting character designs
How do conflicting art styles help in making things look seamless?

>>84744109
Yeah, i wasn't the guy who said it was seamless, that's not the right word for it.
Maybe "how the fuck did they manage to make this work" kind of deal.

>>84711212
When you go back to /a/ where your kind belong.

>>84744545
There's hardly anything difficult about making it "work." You just composite the characters on top of the 3DCG.

>>84718787
Yeah, it was totally because of TTG and not all the terrible executive decisions made on CN on the limbo period before Adventure Time.
You people are beyond retarded.

>>84744736
Making it work is different from piecing parts together.
It has to not make you puke on sight

>>84711755
>THE WORLD SHALL WARP TO MY OPINIONS WEATHER THEY MATCH OR NOT

>>84745066
It's just flat cartoon characters composited on top of photorealistic 3DCG with some simple effects. I don't see what effort is required to make it "work."

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>>84745157
>flat cartoon characters
>banana with goggly eyes
>potato
>play doh
>technicolor giant
>photorealistic t-rex
>paper with realistic shadows
>3D robot
>upside down chin as the retard
>man with chinese takeaway box head

>>84711212
When the toys don't sell well and corporate bigotry ceases to exist, but the chances of that happening are proportional to the likelihood of pigs learning how to fly.

CN these days bathe in toy sales, and completely disregards the intelligence of it's audiences, which is just sad. -_-

>>84745906
Are you going somewhere with this?

>>84712342
>It saved CN
No it didn't. Made loads of money through all its iterations but it didn't save it.

>>84746021
>I-it's not like I lost the argument or anything! Baka!

>>84748918
So you weren't going anywhere with it. Ok.

>>84730221
>hell it was the first iteration of Scooby Doo that dared giving Daphne and Freddy actual personalities.
Daphne gained a personality during the red shirt phase when Velma and Fred were gone

>>84711212
I'd say when they eventually run out of our childhood icons to corrupt but at that point are we'll have fallen so far into the abyss that we'll never find the light

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I love the fact that ever since NuPPG dropped, /co/ is much more accepting of TTGO.

>>84750055
I've never hated it. In fact, there's a select few episodes I like. /co/ overreacts too much.

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>>84713140
Star Wars rebels is still alive at least.
But yeah, action cartoons are definitely on their last legs. With comic movies doing so well, I'm not sure why they're not making at least a light comeback. Maybe the shit with toy marketing and advertising to specific demographics is keeping them down, I don't know. Worst case scenario, action cartoons go away for a while and come back when things change again.

>>84735046
Tell that to marketing degree graduates.

>>84743928
>I don't get what's so seamless about it.
>The backgrounds are photorealistic 3DCG, the characters are flat cartoon characters that don't look like they're really there.
You've never watched it, I assume. A lot of the other characters are in different styles and types of animation. Stop-motion, 3D cg, different art styles, that's what anon was talking about. I don't even like the show that much, but it's pretty interesting in this regard.

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Not all current reboots are bad

>>84750055
What the hell are you talking about majority in this thread hate it

>>84750620
>You've never watched it, I assume.
I've watched it on YouTube.

I have never heard of the Filntstones or Inspector Gadget ones.

And why did Baby Looney Tunes come out so long after all the others? The phase had ende it's premiere.

>>84750332
>Star Wars rebels is still alive at least.
And it's the worst thing currently airing.
Seriously, does Disney just not care about their TV or what? Does that shit even have editors?