Killing Joke spoilers...poor Dick

>>84704647
What the fuck

>>84704647
Yeah thats Timm alright

>>84704647
HAHA!

>That other thread about superheroes having a crush on villains
>The opening post has a panel of Barbara admitting that Killer Moth's "principal's voice" makes her wet

Really makes you think.

God damn BTAS crew

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>>84704647

>>84704647
What the fuck. Isn't she like 15?

>>84704647
No fucking way this is real

WHAT

The weird thing is that it happens after she gets shot

Dick/Babs is cancer anyway so this is fine.

Well actually it's not fine, Bruce/Babs is awful too. I don't get Timm's obsession with this shit ship.

>>84704729
She hasn't been 15 in a long time.

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>>84704647
Timm. Timm, I know you want this, but please. Please. Tell me you didn't shove your garbage ship into the fucking Killing Joke. Please.

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>>84704647

>Adding sex into the Killing Joke, which is basically a rape story
>Bruce fucking Barbra who's god knows how old at this point in time now thanks to DC's retcon weird time fuckery and n52 BS.


NOPE

>>84704768
But if she isn't paralyzed then what's the point?

>>84704774
she's a white girl. She's 15 until she's 40.

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>>84704647
Hot.

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Wayned

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That is hilarious.

>>84704782
I told you guys that any adaption would only be inferior. Glad to be proven right.

Bruce and Barry needs to stop cucking their students.

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>>84704789
>which is basically a rape story
Ah so you didn't get it.

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Article for those interested

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman/spoilers-batman-the-killing-joke-5-things-it-got-right-and-3-things-it-a143690

>>84704647
Timm did it again, the absolute madman.

>>84704723
>I'll have to congratulate dick
then he looks down and says, "well done, little buddy"

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>complain about Barbara's treatment in the OG KJ
>get this instead
>DAT PAW

What a madman

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>>84704895
>Complaining that the fucking thing is Too faithful
I just don't understand anymore

>>84704647
OK, question to /co/:

Let's assume she's legal. Let's assume she's never been in a relationship with Grayson. Let's assume she didn't start wearing the cowl until she was an adult.

Would you still object? If so, why?

>>84704647
If this is true, it's a terrible decision...

It completely changes the dynamic of Batman's confrontation with The Joker, takes the focus off Jim's trauma and further reduces Barbara to the role of fridge inhabitant...

Hell, it changes the ending from off-putting to downright callous

Timm no pls not here

>>84705049
She's Jim's daughter, going after your bro's daughter and just for a quickie is a big no.

>>84705049
>If Barbara wasn't Barbara, would you still object?

screencap or not true

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>>84704895
>needing to have intercourse with someone to be close with them

Jesus christ

>>84705049
I sorta feel like bruce/babs is one of those relationships where the power dynamics are really, unhealthily skewed

>>84705049
A mentor having sex with his apprentice in canon is pretty fucking gross, especially when it's a friend's daughter.

>>84705049
Because banging your friend's daughter is pretty fucking creepy.

>>84705049
Yes it's dumb and boring. People should be able to work together without fucking and since Timm forces it into everything it's clear that it serves no actual story purpose and it's just shipping.

>>84705069
>takes the focus off Jim's trauma
That's not a bad thing when it's clear that the adaptation is a Batman story not a Jim Gordon or Barbara Gordon story.

>and further reduces Barbara to the role of fridge inhabitant...
I don't get what you're saying here. The fridge meme only pertains to women who get needlessly killed, not crippled.

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>>84704647
>making a design that hot
>not having someone stick it in her

come on /co/.

>>84705049
Do you often bang your friend's children?

>>84705258
>nipples on Batgirl suit

Oh shit yeah son

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>>84704647
Not surprised they did this

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>>84705283
If they are of legal age, it is a biological imperative to breed

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WHAT THE FUCK BRUCE TIMM

>>84705376
Man, Timm cannot keep his hands out of his pants

>>84705352
>it is a biological imperative to breed
and yet there are people with no motivation to breed

>>84705376
Jesus Christ no fucking way. Make a webm so we can see this train wreck.

>>84704647
Everything Timm has done has been a mistake, even Harley

>>84704895
>I'm usually not a huge fan of animated movies
Into the trash it goes.

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>>84704647
>>84704895
>tfw Tara Strong starts making grunting and panting noises during the sex scene

>>84705444
Trips confirm Timm is a mistake.

>>84705426
Those people are mentally ill. Stop buying into the propaganda, there is such a thing as normal. Those people are the outlier.

>>84705340
It's Timm, of course they did it, it's his favourite ship and thus it has to be in everything.

>>84705428
>One small deviation that doesent change much
>ITS HORRIBLE ITS RUINED
Goddammit people

>>84705428
http://greeny1025.tumblr.com/post/147798887569/batman-dccomics-killingjoke-brucetimm-i-know
Tumblr/Instagram clip

I actually liked the idea of batman/batgirl in batan beyond, because it showed how hard Bruce fell from grace. It's a relationship that shouldn't at all be glorified, and I think Timm's overindulgence detracts from both Bruce and babs' characters

>>84705496
god dayum barbara

>>84704647

But I thought Batman only had eyes for the Joker?

Oh shit is The Killing Joke really just a love triangle gone wrong?!

I love timm, but I am first and foremost a Dickfag. this is most outrageous

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>>84705444
>trips

tims always used properties as his personal wank bank.

>>84705496
Hahaha timm pls

Who allowed this

MADMAN
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>>84705496
Thank you Based Timm.

I'll never need comedy again.

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>>84705496
Has there ever been a bigger case of character assassination?

>>84705496
Timm you absolute madman
Oh sweet jesus

>>84705516
>It's a relationship that shouldn't at all be glorified
Why do you think Timm ships it?

It's basically what problems people with the Batman/Robin relationship (power imbalance, big age gap, etc), just without the gay stuff.

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sometimes you just need the D

Doesn't even look like Bruce had a choice

>>84705496
>Batman gives her the dick while keeping her away from Dick
Although it looks like she went for it herself

Maybe Babs is Timm's waifu and he uses Bruce as a self-insert?

What a misstep though. It sucks when creators you admire make huge blunders like this.

>>84705572
Eh, I'm a Dickfag too but I hate Dick and Babs together, it's just that I hate Babs and Bruce together even more.

Dick gets the shaft yet again, bravo Timm.

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>>84705678
>filename

>>84704647
>poor Dick

Is Dick even mentioned or are you just a Dick/Babs shipper?

Every good and distinctive writer in comics or involved with comic properties is also a gigantic pervert and are unable to hide their fetishes.

At this point you have to learn to accept it.

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WHY

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS

THIS WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL BOOK

>>84705496
i will grant that seeing shirtless babs is hot but everything else if FUCKING PISSING ME OFF FUCK YOU TIMM YOU BITCHFUCKER

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>>84705774
Like? The only example I can think of is Mark Millar and rape

>>84705743
don't you mean Barbara gets the shaft yet again?

>>84705805
He thinks he's better than Moore. It's disgusting.

>>84705805
Mentor/Apprentice may just be one of Timm's fetishes

One of the reasons why they did it in DCAU was because it was gross and was a reason why Bruce is shit, so if they did it here, Timm just has a fetish

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>>84705496

>>84705838
Alan Moore and rape.

I've got no problem seeing Clark climb into a bathtub with Lois, or Bruce wake up next to some random woman, but this shit is just gross with the whole age gap/mentor thing.

Also sex in the costumes is just fuckin' weird man

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It's not like Barbara/Dick is a good ship at least. It's bound to fail at some point.

>>84705887
>Also sex in the costumes is just fuckin' weird man
zack snyder doesn't mind sex in suits, but its stupid when they talk in costume

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>>84705887
>Also sex in the costumes is just fuckin' weird man

>>84705856

This addition is stupid but that's also retarded. By that argument every writer who has hanged things in an adaptation thinks they're better then the source material and the writer of that material, and that's insane.

>>84705887

>Also sex in the costumes is just fuckin' weird man

Speak for yourself, man.

>>84705918

I don't get why he went through the trouble of giving us some awesome suits for Superman, Wonder Woman, and finally a non-shitty suit for Batman, just to give them no dialogue in the suits.

>>84705934
>>84705937

Nigga

>>84705887
>Also sex in the costumes is just fuckin' weird man
As someone who can attest to cosplay sex at cons, it's probably the most acceptable part of this.

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>Timm turns Moorebats into Millarbats
Fuck off, Bruce.

>>84705496
is that it?

>>84705937
>By that argument every writer who has hanged things in an adaptation thinks they're better then the source material and the writer of that material, and that's insane.

No it's true. They are egotistical as fuck. They change things because they feel it makes the story better.

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Just watched it

Joker shows up 40 minutes into the 70 minute long movie
also the animation is fucking terrible

>>84705904
isn't it supposed to? it's supposed to be kind of shitty didn't Timm say as much?

>>84705990
Let's be fair for a second, that Batman is clearly a premature ejaculator while Timm's Batman could probably go 24 hours with an erection and be just fine.

>>84706066
Yeah he said it wasn't meant to be glorified and was supposed to be gross on Bruce's part.

Doesn't mean he still doesn't ship it and think it's hot.
A lot of people like gross things.

IT ALL COMES UP TIMMHOUSE

Babs and Bruce is just wrong on so many levels. Hell Tim and Babs was weird enough in Arkham Knight

>>84705496
>http://greeny1025.tumblr.com/post/147798887569/batman-dccomics-killingjoke-brucetimm-i-know

H O T

I approve. Dick/Babs was a shitty ship anyways.

>>84706036

>They change things because they feel it makes the story better.

You realise comics and novels aren't written like films, right? Different mediums require different styles of storytelling?

And by your argument you can never get a writer with an ounce of personality because they might think themselves better then the source and change something. You're arguing for robots who adapt things 100% with no mental or artistic input.

>>84705255
Fridging isn't always about killing the woman but rather inflicting enough trauma on her to give the boyfriend/husband motivation

By giving Bruce and Babs a fully sexual relationship, it unintentionally pushes her role in the story into the textbook definition of fridging

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>>84705496
If this scene was Barbara and Tim Drake my dick would be diamond.

>>84705990
Is that dinah?

>>84705118
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>>84705283
OK, so the biggest objection to this is the fact that Gordon is Bruce's friend and Barbara's father.

Why is this an objection? I'm not saying I'm for or against it, I'm just trying to figure out why this is an obstacle.

Is it the age difference? Gordon is usually depicted as being significantly older than Bruce, to the point that Gordon is often positioned as somewhat of a father-figure. Is it the prior friendship? Often, Gordon starts out as somewhat distrustful towards Batman, with their friendship developing only a few years into Batman's career, at which point Barbara often has already donned the cowl. And there are many people who consider their parents-in-law friends.

Or is it just a gut reaction? Like how people know something is porn without seeing any nudity or genitalia?

>>84705496
What the fuck

>>84704647
Why is Timm such a creepy retard who keeps pushing Bruce/Babs?

Good. Dick has Kori. He doesnt need shitty Babs

>Babs keeps getting shuffled around as the Batboys personal fleshlight

>>84706194
I'm actually anti-adaption in general because of this. There is no value in doing a story we've already read.

>>84706255
Yep, All Star Black Canary.

>>84706255
Yes
Wonder Woman was a feminazi who can't get enough of SuperDick and Hal got owned by Dick in a yellow room
The comic was strange

>>84706283
That's what happens when Barbara is the token girl of the batfamily

>>84705496
fucking bruce timm

i hate this so much but i'm laughing so hard

>>84706348
Why can't they fuck out of house?

>>84704789
>DC's retcon weird time fuckery and n52 BS.
I don't like this either, but you know none of that applies to this animated movie, right?

Is anyone else going to edit Killing Joke so that all the Batgirl shit will be removed? I know I will.

So is this thing fucking shit or what?

>>84706260

>Why is this an objection? I'm not saying I'm for or against it, I'm just trying to figure out why this is an obstacle.

It's the power dynamic, the same reason why psychiatrist/patient, boss/emplyee and teacher/student is wrong. Even if everyone is consenting, one party has far more power over the other and can manipulate them with that.

>>84706283
>>84706348

>Barbara is literally the girl from IT whose job was to be the group bicycle

>>84706416
You tell me >>84706043

>>84706416
yep

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>He's objectified you
and they say MARVEL is bad.

>>84706387
Because they don't want to shill other franchises or include any of them in bat things
Even in comics

Simone wanted Ryan Choi in her Batgirl book, but she wasn't allowed to have a super powered individual, especially since Ryan isn't apart of the batfamily
Same reason why Dick will never be with Starfire in any meaningful way ever again

>>84705496
>http://greeny1025.tumblr.com/post/147798887569/batman-dccomics-killingjoke-brucetimm-i-know
Welp my dick is diamon now.

>>84706416
Yes.

Even the The Killing Joke comic portions are brought down by pretty shitty animation.

>>84704647
What the fuck, timm

I hope the sjw tear you a new one for this

So what are the good animated Batfilms?

>>84706416
yeah I'm not even watching it now and I hate Babs anyway

>>84706416
Everyone that watched it, say that it was good, but people here will hate because its /co/ after all

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>DC's animated movies will never be good ever again
Gods and Monsters was the last one that was even close to being great ;_;

>>84706601
He's not on any kind of social media, all they can do is have an ineffective temper tantrum.

>>84706613
>Everyone that watched it, say that it was good
Literally disproved by the OP. Link your supposed good reviews.

So is this pairing ollicity before ollicity?

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>>84704647
Oh for fuck sake Tim why?

>>84706431
>It's the power dynamic
There is always some type of power dynamic in a romantic relationship. It's not exclusive to the roles you described.

>one party has far more power over the other and can manipulate them with that.
Just because they CAN exert their power, doesn't mean that's what happens 100% of the time. Bruce and Babs train together, fight together and survive life-or-death situations together. Stastics will say that they are bound to have feelings for each other. Sexual or otherwise.

>>84706682
No it's just Timm's fetish that's showed up in like one or two elseworlds that nobody cares about

tfw you bought tickets for this horse shit

fuck Warner Bros

>>84706680
In the same damn article the guy says that the movie is a masterpiece and that it was too faithful ? read the goddamn article you idiot

Funny it is, it's not even close to be biggest problem of this adaptation. The whole cartoon is aboslute trash except perfect voice acting. Need to re-read KJ instead of this crap.

>>84706601
He's not on any social media as far as I know and this thing is already out, so its not like they can stop it.

They'll just have to shake in rage

>>84706680

>Literally disproved by the OP

Actually that review is generally positive.

>>84705496
God the moment he grabbed dat ass.

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>>84706730
I'M MAD

>>84706260
Fucking friend's children is just creepy and gross, anon.
Sorry you can't see that.

>>84706682
The Killing Joke didn't make Batman a secondary character.

>>84705496
Someone rip this into a webm fuck.

>>84706487
>Dick will never be with Starfire in any meaningful way ever again
but she loves dick

>>84705496
Man you know Timm was rubbing one out while working on this

>>84706613
The tumblr crowd haven't heard of it yet. I can't wait for them to tear DC as a whole a new one. Babs treatment is a super sensitive topic for those fags. Hell I'm triggered by Timms shitty ship.

The Mentor apprentice, student teacher, doctor patient dynamic skeevy as fuck and only belongs in the kinky roleplay bedroom.

So this is how DC animation dies... with thunderous shipping.

>>84706769
It's ok when Batman does it.

>>84706841
Yes but he'll never love her, because he's either meant to be alone for forever, stuck in a perpertual flirty relationship with her and Barbara, or with Barbara for 5ever

>>84706852

>The Mentor apprentice, student teacher, doctor patient dynamic skeevy as fuck and only belongs in the kinky roleplay bedroom.

I've been seeing a LOT more of it on network TV in the past few years and I don't know why.

>>84706855
JL Action seems alright at least

It's a shame though

>>84704647
Is this a one-shot or related to an earth?

>>84706682

I think the disgust levels are more in line with Barry x Linda.

>>84706730
I just refunded my ticket kek

>>84706601
>>84706852
Why would SJWs be mad about Bruce/Babs? You fucks are just overreacting.

>but le creepy
Just shut up.

>>84706927
I hope you don't have friends when you get older

>>84706927
If anything these fucks will love it

>>84706919
It's a one-shot.

>>84706855
I liked the Superman/Wonder Woman shipping in Damianverse cartoons, but this is unacceptable

>>84706922
>Barry and Linda are the same age in the show

I see no problem.

I miss Linda. Fucking Berlanti cockteasing her joining the team.

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>>84706813

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>>84706646
The downward spiral of "we hit a slump so they're not selling as well as they used to so we have to cut the budget which ensures they'll never look good and likely never sell as well" They could have taken a chance with the Killing Joke, but didn't. With those DKR numbers I can't really blame them.

>>84704789
I love how autists like you don't even know how old Babs is

I hope Bruce checked Barbara out before she became Batgirl, like whenever Barbara was with Jim at the station and stuff

>>84707005
Thanks /co/mrade.

>>84706890
WHich is why DickBabs will suck forever.

>>84707010
>losing 2 million per picture
>Year One not breaking even
seriously?

>>84707039
I know right

>>84706997

dude, mentors fucking their sidekick's primary love interest fucking sucks. age gap is only one side of this.

>>84705229
and Gordon is like 20+ years older than Bruce so its a dumb complaint

This is a joke,right

Can someone please tell me...WHY? WHY THE HELL DID THEY DO THAT? I can forgive trash animation. I can forgive trash art style. BUT THIS? WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT SHIT? IT'S JUST FUCKING STUPID. You have perfect comic to make your adaptation. Just turn pictures into cartoon. What's all. You'd be prasied by literaly EVERYONE. Now you'll just have thousands of burnt fans and casuals. Good job, DC. I hope JL action will not suck at least.

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>>84704647
Is this the Batman Beyond prequel we've been waiting for?

will they mention the stillbirth

>>84706922
Barry/Linda was more weird that bad. It was the same sort of shit that the show does in general, random comic references so people who read comics will keep watching. She really just could have been an OC. And making her alternate version Doctor Light when Linda is Korean American and Light is a Japanese citizen is just kind of generally bizarre.

It's strange hearing everyone getting excited over the Killing Joke movie when all it can be is the Killing Joke- in movie form. It won't be as influential, as shocking or provoking as the comic.

>>84707010
Jesus, no wonder they're shilling Damian so hard.

Son of Batman was the highest selling movie since Superman vs The Elite in 2012 is one of the few movies that at least broke even.

>>84705376
at this point as many times as they've fucked in the cartoons you might just see it in the comics as well

>>84707005
wew

>>84707010

this list is sad.

but they deserve it.

>>84707147
this

Might as well have Barbara fuck all the batguys
She already wanted to fuck Jason real bad, so they should add Tim and Bruce to it

>>84707044
The farthest right column is just the numbers compared to the previous title, nothing to do with the actual budget.

>>84705572
Dick is getting cucked in the comics as well so you shouldn't be pressed over Babs

>>84707010
I legit don't think I watched any of them since they butchered ASS

>>84707109
>random comic references so people who read comics will keep watching.

i'm pretty sure no one who read comics was happy with it.

And making her alternate version Doctor Light when Linda is Korean American and Light is a Japanese citizen is just kind of generally bizarre.

racism

>>84705743
Was Dick in the Killing Joke? I don't remember seems his crush getting paralyzed would be a big deal for him

>>84707010
>Son of Batman was the highest selling movie since 2012
Hey guys, I found the reason why Damian is the new Batman.

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>>84704719
>not even Nightwing knows that
I bet there's a lot of thing Nightwing doesn't know.

did he really just cram his BTAS fanfic ship into this movie?!?!?

>>84705887
What age gap? In TKJ Babs is the same age as Bruce

>>84707246
In the comic?

No.
I don't think he was even mentioned in it.

It's already been leaked mate

>>84707316

This, there's a Bluray rip on rarbg.

>>84706646
this was actually good though shipfag

>>84707303
this is not true, not in any medium either

>>84707073
Linda was never Wally's love interest in the CWverse, though. He has oneitis for Jesse.

>>84707366
TKJ's animation is pretty shit

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>>84706682
this pairing is about 10-15 years before olicity

>>84707303
You're so full of shit it's brimming out your fingernails and onto your keyboard.

>>84707347
what the fuck are they talking about in the comments of the killing joke in rarbg?

>>84707303
Not true in the comic or the movie.

While she wasn't Dick's age originally, she wasn't Bruce's age either.

So, what's your predictions of casuals and wannabe dc-fans reactions?

>>84707200
I can't wait for DC's next movie where Barbara fucks Damian

>>84707506
But how can Damian fuck Barbara when he's too busy fucking Starfire in front of Dick?

>>84707451

>reading the comments on a torrent site beyond "The sound is in sync and it didn't set my computer on fire"

Whatever they're saying, it's on you for reading.

>>84704820
Shut the fuck up, Alan.

>>84707506
If only, anon. If only.
We need some animated super /ss/.

IT AINT NO FUN UNLESS THE HOMIES GET SOME

batfam motto

>>84706682
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>>84704705
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>>84704770

am I the only one who fucking remembers the Batman Beyond? Barbara explicitly says in Batman Beyond that she choose Bruce over Dick but then left Bruce as well

>>84707553
Animated Damian is fucking gross anon
Nobody should hit that

>>84707576
The point of it in BB was to show how fucked up Bruce is. This is just so Timm can get his rocks off.

>>84707576
What does Batman Beyond have to do with anything? It was a shit pairing there and it's a shit pairing now

>>84707576
Yes and it was meant to be gross there
Also this isn't DCAU

So it's more like mentor/apprentice ships are Timm's jam due to their disgusting nature

>>84704647
Holy fuck. Not even Alan 'Lost Girls' Moore felt the need to have them fuck in the original. Is Babs/Bruce even a popular ship? Couldn't Timm and co. just adapt Last Rites if they really want Batman to fuck a woman in a batsuit?

>>84707407
and probably babs was never dick's either, does it change how disgusting it is?

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>>84707380
No newfag tkj was set in pre crisis continuity where Babs was in her 30s and about to be a congresswoman
She was the same age as Bruce

>>84707200
Can steph or cass fuvk damian, though?

>>84707646
>Is Babs/Bruce even a popular ship?
It's very unpopular among comic fans due to Dick/Babs being very popular among comic fans

>>84707651
I don't find it disgusting, but then again I'm not a pussy.

>>84706922
Or kyle/carol

So did they really just fuck up Killing Joke?

>>84707706
Oh god. Is there anything more weird when your gf takes on the mother role?

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>>84707471
she was closer to bruce's age than she was Dicks and Bruce was almost 20 years older than Dick who was a pre pubescent teen having a crush on a grown woman babs

Play your hurt feelings elsewhere Shipper
Babs hooking up with Bruce pre crisis was fine

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>>84707506

>>84707200
Does that mean she'll engage in lesbianism and get blacked?

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BRAVO TIMM, BRAVO

Who signed off on this? Who on Earth thought this was a good idea?

>>84707707
yep

Bruce didn't just fuck her either he had her calling him for a booty call

>>84707659
She wasn't even Bruce's age in precrisis.

She was half way through Bruce and Dick's ages, so about 7 years older than Dick, and 7 years younger than Bruce.
Her early crush on Bruce was a young woman pining after an older man, and Dick's crush on Barbara was an older teenage boy pining after a young woman.

>>84707005
It's odd that she's wearing a normal bra. I imagine heroes would wear sports bras, unless all their tits are super perky

>>84707707
nah, it was just one addition, the rest of the movie is pretty much the same

>>84707784
They already have Batwoman for that.

>>84707679
Dick/Babs is over anon
a small contingent of Dick fans like the pairing but over the large landscape of pop culture no one gives a fuck

>>84707707
The prequel is dumb, but the TKJ part is mostly just ruined by rather poor animation.
Voice acting and what happens is on point.

>>84707833
>unless all their tits are super perky

That wouldn't really matter, you'd still want them strapped down so they don't jiggle everywhere. It's like playing sports without a cup, just uncomfortable

I think at this point DCAU is just an experimental unit that let whoever wants to try out an idea to fuck around

>>84707707
Well technically this was the prologue to TKJ

>>84707769
But she wasn't Bruce's age, which was that anon's statement.

She was half way through Dick and Bruce's ages.

>>84707263
Less creepy of a pairing than Bruce/babs.

>>84707534
While Raven licks his balls

I don't mind, but then again my girlfriend is five years younger than me.

>>84705049
Seems totally out of place and distracting to the plot of TKJ. Regardless of what you think of the character, TKJ is the Jokers story. Not Jim's, not Babs and not even Batman's. The plot should be focused squarely on the Joker and the bizarre character arc he goes through in the story. Bruce - Babs fan fiction has no place in this plot. If Timm really wanted to pad out the runtime he could of included some flashbacks Batman and Jokers early encounters or something, that would at least look like it was contributing to the plot.

>>84707901
Dick/Babs is one of the most popular pairing for comic fans.

Funny how that is, because Robin/Starfire is probably still popular outside of comic fans due to Teen Titans and TTG.

It'll be interesting to see who they choose for tv or DCEU.

>>84707303
Not even close to being true.

>>84707591
Jaime already did.

And it was great

>>84707831
Sounds about right given that pre-Crisis Barbara became a congressperson, which requires you to be 25. 32 year old Bruce, 25 year old Barbara, 18 year old Dick.

>>84707005
This is just as badly animated as hentai.

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>>84707801
I love how all these people haven't fucking watched BTAS or even fucking Batman Beyond
Christ all these newfags

>>84708001
Are you her mentor or her boss?

>>84708061
see >>84707606

>>84707263
Barbara likes her men older confirmed

>>84707774
sauce, my man

>>84708033
Yeah Jaime ruining Damian's face was the best thing, or at least second to Dick and Kory's chat.

>>84707831
Nigga you are being obtuse now
Babs was not 7 years older than Dick
She was close to 15 years older than him. She was in her mid 30s by the time she retired as Batgirl

Dick was not even on her radar because a teen boy lusting after a grown woman like that was a joke

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>>84707706
i wanted to forget this dammit

>>84707200
>Tim
It's like you want another reboot.

So Babs likes older men?

>>84708061
It was shit when it happened before and it's shit that it's happening now. I don't understand why people like you are posting as if the outrage is because it's never happened before.

It's like how SM/WW is shit even though it happened in Elseworlds.

>>84708038
Dick quit being Robin before he was 18 anon >>84708061

>>84705687
More like Bruce is Timm's husbando and he use Babs as a self-insert

>>84708090
search aeolus06 on paheal

>>84708061
Babs wants to fuck a billionaire
she's getting her miranda kerr whore on

>>84708061
No we have. It's just most of us don't expect an adaptation of a hugely popular canon story to include a pairing from a other-media adaptation.

>Luke/Misty in the Luke Cage spoilers
>now this

Why do we live in the worst timeline? It's not fair.

>>84708087
>Barbara became Batgirl just so she could fuck older men
What a slut

>>84708148
She was 25 when he was in college

>>84708168

She wants to fuck her father but can't, so she fucks older father figures.

[/timm]

>>84708276
So Timm is into cougars?

>>84708148
She was straight up said to be 25 years old in Batman Family #10, and Dick just started college so he was 18 years old.

>>84708061
>Relying on a cartoon adaptation for your interpretation of the characters

I think I found the true newfag

>>84704729
By the time of The Killing Joke, she had been a congresswoman. She was originally significantly older than Dick, with the whole idea of making them close in age coming in the 90s.

>>84708301
No he's into older men.

>>84708148
>>84708311
https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/348293.html

scroll down because you can't save the image and readcomiconline isn't working

>>84705496
TIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMM!

I wonder if we'll see a bunch of fan edits after this releases like what happened with the Hobbit movies. Maybe we'll even see a fan version with improved animation since the big thing (the voice acting) is still there to be used.

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>>84705496
Jesus Christ

>>84708404
Just film someone flipping through the comic set to dramatic music that crescendos at the right times

Fuck this shit

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>>84705496

"People complained about Barbara's role, how do we fix this?"
"Let's make her into fap material for 12 year olds"

I'm actually kind of impressed how this adaptation managed to equally trigger people who like and dislike Killing Joke.

>>84705838
Claremont. Byrne.

>>84708194
>In 1969, still in the Pre-Crisis continuity, writer Dennis O'Neil and artist Neal Adams return Batman to his darker roots. One part of this effort is writing Robin out of the series by sending Dick Grayson to Hudson University and into a separate strip in the back of Detective Comics. The by-now Teen Wonder appears only sporadically in Batman stories of the 1970s as well as a short lived revival of The Teen Titans.
Barbara Gordon ran for congress in 1973, so definitely 18 or older. She could have been somewhat older than 25 though, but not too much.

are you people seriously offended by age/power gap, mentor/student or similar ships?
It's a fiction romance in an action comic, there has to be some "unusual" element to spice it up, otherwise I doesn't offer anything.

>>84708443
We all should have just stuck to reading the book in the first place and not begged for this for years.

>>84708513
>12 year olds
Timm is 55, Anon.

>>84708523
She was said to be 25 in Batman Family #10

>>84708386

>>84708544
Not all age gaps are bad but this one is particularly because he is close with her father and it's clearly just being done because Timm likes the ship and not because it adds to the story.

>>84708518
It happened with Son of Batman and it's sequels too. Morrison fans and haters were both up in arms.

>>84708519
>Byrne
How the hell hasn't he gotten the Chris Hansen treatment yet?

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>>84708386
this is actually a retcon to try and justify the same kiss your article talks about
Once again by the time she was retired in the Killing Joke as Batgirl she was in her 30s
Dick didn't get aged up because I guess he wasn't being phased out like Babs and didn't need to be made less cool(older)

>>84706273
Only thing containing my rage.
Dick and Starfire forever. But Bruce comes off like a sleazy SOB when fucking and Babs is concerned. It's fucked on multiple levels.
>Best friends daughter
>Mentor/Teacher
>basically fucking his "son's" GF.

I mean i get off on this shit in porn but in the actual story just no...

>>84708544
"Ships" belong in the trash either way and it sucks when the creators themselves try to crowbar theirs into your unwilling face.

>>84708544
> Look how mature and edgy we are, we make creepy power dynamics happen cause how can bruce care about babs getting crippled unless he fucked her sweet sweet pussy first???

Are you 12?

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>>84708513
Its just sex
Even Batgirl straight up lampshades this outrage in the film

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>>84704949
That's not how Batman handles these situations.

>>84708699
How mature. I'm thoroughly impressed by this pushing of the boundaries.

> R rated Batman cartoon
People asked for this

>>84708684
Pinpoint where I said it offer maturity in my post, you faggy doublenigger.

>>84708648
>creators create what they enjoy
>you watch what they make
>oh noes, their creation is in my face
You're not faggy, but still a doublenigger.

>>84708699
So it's literally just Timm getting his rocks off.
Not even trying for a mature relationship, just him wanting to do a sex scene?

>>84708699

> A guy with a fetish using a character as his mouthpiece to try to justify this

Uh huh

>>84708544
No. I'm more annoyed that with each adaptation it's becoming clear that Timm doesn't understand what makes GN's like DKR or TKJ good/popular to begin with.

>>84707044
Yeah most of the time they get leaked early before DVD release so everyone just simply torrents them. Kinda sad really. Its obvious starting from Flashpoint that their animation is getting sloppy

>>84708790
I mean it was obvious he was a shitty edgelord all along and the only reason his stuff turned out good is because the censors held him back.

>>84708767
The point is that this shit adds nothing to the story. It's lame, a disservice to both characters and it takes attention from the actual story, with didnt need a fanfiction tier romance to work

>>84707263
Batgirl/Killer Moth is the best ship.

>>84708790
>DKR
But that was good you fucking retard

>>84708633
I can justify it
Gordon is a good 2 decades older than Bruce and occupies that friend/father figure role for Bruce rather than just strictly best friend so the skeevey fucking his daughter shit does not apply

Bruce did not train Babs at least until after she had already become Batgirl. He didn't foster her like he did Dick

Dick is not his son and Babs is not his GF anon
In fact she broke up with Dick in BTAS because of him being non committal to her and Babs subsequently went for Bruce

>>84708877
This is a retarded non-argument.

How do you pinpoint where "THE STORY" end and the extra non-necessary elements that are not part of "THE STORY" begin?
Everything that is shown is as much part of the story as anything else.

>>84708877
Timm has no understanding of relationships. He thinks people can't care about each other unless they're fucking.

>>84708767
>I like The Killing Joke
>I want to watch it's animated adaptation
>The creator shoved his stupid fetish into it
Yes, "Oh no, his creation is in my face" is appropriate.

>>84708877
It's not even romance.

He just wanted to have two people fucking.

Remember when /co/ insisted that Batman was not a Timm self-insert character?

>>84708974
yeah all that sexual tension between batman and batgirl had to be resolved someway

>>84708944
That explains why Bruce and Dick's relationship didn't even survive past BTAS.

>>84708839
Yeah. I've felt for a while now that a lot of the quality of BTAS was more due to Dini's and Burnett's writing than Timm's input on the plot. His art style was nice though.

I don't give a fuck about Batman anymore.

>>84708061
We all tried to ignore it. People found it gross af. Also its fucking Batman. If anyone knows how fucked up the power dynamic between a mentor-student sex is its that fucking dude. He is supposed to have the discipline to resist that shit.

Hell he constantly resists Selina's pussy whenever she is robbing shit

>>84709014
Dick got to fuck Catwoman at least

>>84709004
I always knew Timm was a hack. Dini and McDuffie (RIP in peace) were the real reasons the DCAU worked.

>>84708936
>How do you pinpoint where "THE STORY" end and the extra non-necessary elements that are not part of "THE STORY" begin?

The part where it's not in the book it's adapting.

>>84709055
still a better ship

>>84708963
Lack of faithfulness to the original material is the only actual argument against this.
However
a) every extra/different element is equally a deviation from the source material. Whether it's a ship, or an extra scene with gordon talking to bruce, it's the same.
b)It's not a 100% Adaptation. They didn't want to make one. They said they wouldn't be making one. It was clear when they mentioned all the extra babs moments. You can't complain that something that doesn't belong to the original is "unwillingly shoved down your throat" when you know it'd be there from the start.

>>84708936
the part where the movie is just retardedly stupid

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All the outrage over sex and pairing BS but no one is talking about the best Joker movie
shame

>>84709059
see
>>84709146

>>84708936
Because we've read the original story and it didn't need a shoehorned in sex scene to be effective or get it's point across. This is pure filler and fanservice. I would have levelled the same complaints if Harley or a Robin had been forced into the plot.

https://youtu.be/4RrkHmYpVAw

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>>84705496
T-THIS AWFUL! T-THEY CAN'T DO THIS

>>84709170
fuckin saved

>>84709170
She went from mad to horny pretty fast there
Still this movie is the best thing DC has done since assault on arkham

>>84707366
>shipfag

Isn't Timm the shipfag though? Forcing this ship in everything he's involved in?

>>84705049
BECAUSE HE'S BATMAN

>>84709170
We're never getting the yellow oval back are we?

>>84709057
He's a talented guy with a few quirks, like this and his "Superman fucks Lois without telling her he's Clark Kent" as featured in JLU and Superman: Doomsday.

>>84709170
well, it's obvious that the virgins that write superheroes comics don't know how womens works outside porn

>>84709219
hahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahah

MAD
MAN
TIMM

>>84709170

Now someone superimpose Timm's face over the voyeur gargoyle.

>>84709181
Probably because we already know it's a great Joker story and that you'd have to be completely incompetent to actually fuck up the Joker's arc in this movie.

>DC ruins another one of Alan Moore's work

It's like clockwork.

>>84709146
>You can't complain that something that doesn't belong to the original is "unwillingly shoved down your throat" when you know it'd be there from the start.

I can tell you with all honesty that I did not expect Batman and Batgirl to bang in this movie. Had I not seen this thread I probably would've bought the movie and then saw it and get super confused/disappointed. It's completely unnecessary and it's just Timm pushing his fetish because he's literally the only person to do this.

>>84704647

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, WHY.

>>84709287
What? You don't regularly go from furious to horny and want to fuck your dad's friend?

>>84709270
He also like hyperviolence and not in the fun Johns way where he does it because he thinks it looks cool. He's one of those shitty 90s creators who thinks it makes things "deeper".

>>84709170
All 30 minutes of prologue just for this

MADMAN

>>84709170
Straight out of bad fanfic written by a 15 year old

Also I know Babs is too wet to give a shit, but Bruce having unmasked sex in the open is fucking retarded

>>84709170
Gotta admit, the eye change there is pretty hot.

Stupid but still.

>>84709170
This is Wolfman/Claremont-tier shit where you KNOW they had one hand down their pants while they were working on this.

>>84709287
Timm's been married for decades, and Azzarello who wrote the script, has been married to crazy Jill Thompson for quite some time.

Netflix when?

>>84709219
hahahahahhahahhhahahhahhah

>>84705496
Timm gives zero fucks about broadcasting what he wanks to.