Comic Artist you just can't stand.

>>84600922
Ramos
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>>84600922
Your mom.

>>84601171
My god, i know right?
fucking ugly spider man

Jae Lee

Ivan Reis
Modern Doug Mahnke
Brett Booth
Mikel Janin
Mike Deodato
Chip Zdarsky

>>84601349
Hate it when they try to make things look too real.

>>84601349
I understand most of these, but Ivan Reis is solid. Great storyteller, great expressive body language in his figures, and detail.

>>84600922
The coloring in Larroca's first Iron Man arc is shit but the suits. He also copy-pasted a fucking iPhone there, and he uses images retrieved from Google.

>>84601484
>too real
I don't have a problem with realistic, just poor storytelling ability. Reis' skillet seems to just be that he can draw lots of characters on a splash page and the ability to put lots of lines on a page. He reminds me a lot of modern Jim Lee

>>84601484
What do you think about based Ross then?

>>84602016
I think he draws stiff boring comics full of his friends in bad costumes

>>84601349
I like Ivan Reis but otherwise this is a solid list

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>>84602129
Off yourself, my man.

I'm just not big on Bryan Hitch. Maybe it's his coloring? His characters always look like they're in some sort of dimly lit room.

>>84602272
I hate this widescreen cinematic approach he takes

>>84601321
This, his Batman/Superman

>>84603176
but that is easily one of his best works, i´d understand if you said so of his sentry or his fantastic 4

>>84601171
He can draw ok, but he doesn't even try on Spider-Man anymore.

>>84602272
Yeah I don't really get how he was so popular and influential either. But Liefeld was too, so comic readers in the 90's and early 2000's must have had godawful taste.

>>84600922
Cho, that chauvinistic pig

>>84603336
Back to /tumblr/, Greg Cucka.

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Steve Dillon, sometimes.

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>>84601171
Ramos is a big one that I hate, but Erica Henderson and whoever did this is way worse. Also whoever did vote Loki.

>>84603223
It was fucking terrible

90% of tge backgrouds were just orange and blue wallpaper and the characters looked like shadow people from kingdom hearts. The backgrounds were so shitty, I had a hard time telling that Bats and Supes transported to Earth 2.

>>84603436
THIS

His Thunderbolts was so horrible.

>>84601321
I think he's good, but he needs to stay away from superhero comics. His style is too creepy for them.

>>84603336
Cho is in the right. He was specifically told that there would be no interference by Rucka. It was even in his contract. And Rucka interfered. Cho has every right to be mad, even if the change was minor.

>>84603683
Seriously why does Marvel keep hiring these hacks? Why not hire someone like that guy who does Sunstone and Rat Queens. His art is phenominal.

>>84603683
You know what pisses me off. I am friends with a few artists who are a hundred times the talent that Henderson is. It depresses me that she gets hire while better hard working artists get passed over.

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>>84603912
>His art is phenominal.

>>84603683
how do these people get these jobs?
obligatory squirrel girl I think she did a jughead comic as well.

>>84603887
And this isn't the first time Rucka pulled this shit. He did the same thing to Hugh's.

Seriously, why is it whenever he goes to DC he becomes a controlling douche but is chill (well chillish) at Marvel? Does DC give him too much power?

>>84603939
It's all about who you know, man.

>>84603912
>Why not hire someone like that guy who does Sunstone and Rat Queens

You assume that everyone is lining up to work for Marvel. The ability to make it in creator owned means artists aren't forced to go to the Big 2 to survive anymore.

At this point only two types of people work for the Big 2. Super fans who got into comics to work on their favorite characters and people who just want to get their name established with readers before taking off on their own

>>84603436
Frank Face is awesome.

Greg Land

Post 2000 Frank Miller.

>>84601349
I'd say Deodato can be competent

but wtf is wrong with Ivan Reis?
He's great!

Besides everything else in this thread:
-(basically every big 2 house style fag)
-Ariel Olivetti
-Mike Deodato
-J Scott Campbell
-Andrea Sorrentino

I will fight anyone who doesn't like Fiffe

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JRJR

I dont see his appeal. His faces are fucking awful.

I dont understand how anybody can see this and think its good.

Any artist who can't do movement
I should be able to tell from each panel the movements. I should never be confused or unsure when art is concerned

>>84601914
Except he has vastly better anatomy, facial expressions, paneling, detail, movement then Jim Lee does.

>>84603320
But Liefeld was incompetent in everything way imaginable.
Hitch on Ultimates 1 & 2 wasn't Incompetent in anyway.
Especially not Anatomy.

>>84600922
What really bugs me about Larroca is the fact that his Tony clearly is Josh Holloway. Fucking tracer.

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>>84603972
Yes it factually is.
Read his Witchblade run.

>>84604162
What's wrong with Olivetti? His work on the Space Ghost mini was awesome.

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>>84603972
>>84604486

>>84604486
>>84604509
How about his interior comic book art?

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>>84603972

>>84603320
>I don't really get how he was so popular and influential either

He drew two of the biggest modern team books and brought "widescreen" comics to the mainstream. Unlike Leifeld he has a solid grasp of anatomy and storytelling.

Even if they don't do anything uniquely comic book with the art Ellis' Authority and Ultimates 1 and 2 are a blast to read and a lot of that is the result of Hitch's action movie sensibilities

>>84604527
Flip thru some issues here.
http://viewcomic.com/witchblade-119-2008/
http://viewcomic.com/witchblade-132-2009/
http://viewcomic.com/witchblade-146-2011/

>>84604219
He used to be good, but his art has gotten more and more blocky over time. He's still pretty good at action if you don't pay attention to the fucked up faces.

sorrentino

>>84604598
>not mentioning Rat Queens, Switch, Sunstone, and all other comics that guy drew not named Witchblade

Felipe Andrade. Fucker makes people look like turtles.

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FOUND IT, I have found the worst artist ever to grace a comic page...
http://viewcomic.com/sensation-comics-featuring-wonder-woman-045-2015/

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>>84604741
Thank god 2 issues later that disturbing thing was replaced by this awesomeness.

>>84604741
Irene Koh (Batgirl)

>>84604757
Laura Braga

>>84604219
Go look at his older stuff and check out THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: THE LAST CRUSADE what he just did.

Literally blown away by how good he was for once.

>>84603683
thicc

>>84602203
>>84603436
jej

>>84604741
did they just publish the layouts

>>84604219
I remember him on ASM. Somehow he managed to draw May to be prettier than MJ.

LIVIO

RAMONDELLI.

STOP

USING HIM.

Frank Quietly and his bastard offspring Burnham and Villalobos.

>>84604757
Good art, bad storytelling.

Why is she grabbing her shin in panel 5? How does that at all relate to the panels 4 and 6? Why is the lasso everywhere and still doing nothing?

Cooke

>>84605091
what do you think about ian bertram

>>84604120
This. Even Liefeld didn't just trace the SAME picture over and over.

I can't get too upset at Liefeld, he's too hilarious. I might be more butthurt if I'd ever had to work with him, as he is apparently a pretty horrible human being.

Mike Deodato Jr.
He pretty much killed Peter David's run on Hulk, and it's like William Messnr-Loebs just saw the art on Wonder Woman and gave up.

Gerard Ashworth.
He's just this one Australian small press cartoonist who takes the whole CRAFT IS THE ENEMY philosophy so seriously that he deliberately draws as badly as possible just as an insult to artists, because artists are scum. There was an actual moment in his comics where he said FUCK IT and stopped trying to draw. He's kind of like if Chris-Chan fucked Liefeld and they had a kid who read too much Kathy Acker.

Vince Colletta was probably the most hated artist by other artists. When he was inking he used to erase backgrounds he didn't feel like drawing. Steve Ditko used to make a point of going through the sample issues at DC's offices, and if he saw Colletta's credit on a book, he'd tear it in two and deposit it in the trash. I remember when Colletta died Big Blown Baby had a joke about him burning in hell.

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>>84604642
why?

Jim Shooter is probably the most hated editor, and Mark Millar the most hated writer, among professionals. They seem to have ruffled a few feathers, stepped on a few toes. Or faces.

Out of the web cartoonists, Fred Gallagher. It's not just that Piro can't draw facial expressions, and his style is such an awkward wapanese mess, and he passes pencils off as finished art, it's not just that he draws himself as a pixie-like femboi who is irresistible to women, and has Japanese schoolgirls fawning over him and what a great artist he is, it's the Largo backstab.
I know that's old news, but you just don't open negotiations with a letter from your lawyer, that's sub-Tarja-Turunen-Nightwish-open-letter-dismissal behaviour. Then writing your former collaborator's expie as an even bigger jerk, that's Chris-Chan-level narcissism. The actual shitty artwork is just the wank-icing on a huge shit-cake of unprofessional behaviour, lethargic production rates and public sympathy whoring.

Ctrl-Art-Del, like Liefeld, is just too hilarious to get worked up about. He not only fails at simple comic timing on a four panel gag strip, have you seen his nudes? The man is a literal pear. He has the physique of The Grinch. Child-bearing hips, ropes for arms.

RHJunior. I waver between finding him hilarious for being a fundie Christian furry who got kicked out of Burntfurs, and genuine hatred over his view that AIDS is God's plague on the wicked. His actual comics are pretty crap, too, his author filibusters approach Terry Goodkind levels.

>>84605091
Shit taste.

>>84600922
I actually liked Larroca in the 00s, he had a mix of Roger Cruz and Chris Bachalo

>>84603997
When was Carol an asian?

>>84604219
It's because of the colors -- he does fine if it's flat colors, but now that we have detailed bullshit, he can't compare

>>84600922
Ramos & Booth

>>84605405
>Colleta usually fucked pencils of Kirby, Tuska, and some other artists just to get their books on schedule

>>84600922
Henderson, Land, Larroca, Deodato, Marquez,

>>84605413
Tracer, very stiff expressions and models.

>>84605604
These but...
>Marquez
Why?

>>84605618
but he does have really creative paneling and sense of composure when it comes to action scenes
is he a tracer? I didn't know
but I do agree that everyone always looks pretty stiff, like they're modeling or in a play

>>84605413
he ahs nice composition but I just find it ugly, he also re-uses a bunch of stuff from his precious work to keep a monthly schedule

>>84605821
>he also re-uses a bunch of stuff from his precious work to keep a monthly schedule
So he's also one of the copy-paste artists like Larroca (for backgrounds and some objects) and Deodato.

>>84605821
>>84605833
Oh i've only read his Green Arrow and X-Men so I guess I haven't noticed that
I just think he's fantastic and had no idea people didn't like him
thought he was one of the big up and coming artists

Ramos
John Romita Jr
Steve Dillion his earlier stuff is alright
Joe Maduria and every artist in the 90s that tried to copy his art

>>84605901
JR and Dillion suffer mostly from shit scripts and/or poor colouring that does not compliment their work.

>>84605933
Nah, Dillon is just plain bad.

J. Scott Campbell - As far as cheesecake artists go, I'd rather take Frank Cho over JSC. At least Cho doesn't draw broken ballerina feet and his girls are thick enough that they don't look like they're going to snap at the waist. In fairness, JSC is good with little details here and there, but that's about it.

Erica Henderson - I'm all for supporting non-house styles for the Big Two, but I think Erica is way out of her element. She works better on a book like Jughead than a superhero book, but that's just me. At the very least, I think she'd be better suited on a creator-owned book that plays to her strengths (whatever they may be).

Mike Deodato Jr. - I honest to God do not have any issues with people using 3D model programs like Poser or Daz Studio to help with certain aspects of art. But Deodato blatantly uses Poser models and the comic book filter that comes with the program, and it's sickening. What's even sadder is that the guy used to be able to draw decently: even if his 90's stuff was average at best, it's still better than what he's churned out today. What the hell happened?

Salvador Larocca - Same thing as above: sure, his run on X-Men a few years back was average looking at best, but then he completely changed and went to this uncanny valley realism shit that just makes my skin crawl at times. Again... what happened?

Alex Ross - His stuff just isn't my cup of tea. I'll agree that he's great for old school, Silver Age pin up-type deals, but otherwise there's nothing else to write home about his work: when you've seen one or two Alex Ross drawings/paintings, you've pretty much seen them all.

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>>84605977
haha, kill yourself faggot

>>84603811
THANK YOU!!

He can't into backgrounds, where he just makes it all misty/foggy, and his storytelling is so flat and stale.

>>84601171
>>84604219
I actually like really like both JRJR and Ramos' early work on Spider-Man, those were my favorite artists as a kid.

JRJR can be very good when he wants, and I think Ramos had a more deliberately exaggerated and 'ugly' style, rather than today where he just does completely flat cutouts with minimal effort.

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>>84603683
The sad thing is that Natasha Allegri isn't all that bad (or at least, used to not be that bad). Her art only started going down the tubes after Bee and Puppycat and it just stagnated from there.

(Pic related, she drew this 4 years ago)

>>84606250
Romita just needs a inker good enough to reign in his pencils

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>>84604527
that is interior art. Though he doesn't do that level of art of everything anymore, just takes too much time for the sales he gets. This is from his latest spin off of witchblade. It's still great art but not as crazy good and probably crazy time consuming as >>84604486

>>84604533 if from Ravine, which I just found the first two trades for a total of $20. Had to buy it, it's a great story and the dragons in it are to die for.

>>84606567
>Though he doesn't do that level of art of everything anymore, just takes too much time for the sales he gets
Illness (which took him off Rat Queens) happened.

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>>84603997

>>84606185
don't always need backgrounds for stuff. But he over uses the misty background, even a flat colour could be more useful for setting a tone

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>>84604219
he used to be good, Id recommend you find that Uncanny X-Men from the 80s in which Wolverine makes the Juggernaut beat the shit out of Colossus in a bar fight because Colossus had hurt the feelings of Kitty Pryde.

it is 183

his new 52 superman is really bad, I agree on that

>>84603683
I like this art style. It's cute.

>There are people on this very board who will defend Gerardo Sandoval.

>>84606659
>Has an entire harem of women he abandoned, some of them with his children, all around the world
>Thinks he has the moral high ground to set a villain loose on his teammate
Why is Wolverine such a putrid piece of shit?

>>84600922
Humberto 'broken arms and legs' ramos

>>84606906
Colossus also was basically mind controlled into dumping Kitty.

>>84603994
>And this isn't the first time Rucka pulled this shit. He did the same thing to Hugh's.

No he didn't, the art director took him off. Rucka was a new writer on the title, it's understandable to put a new cover artist on the title as well. There's no he had much clout so early in his career.

>>84601171
this for me

>>84606906
He didn't know they were pregnant when be left them.
They were all one night stands and such.
Nothing unmoral about that.

>>84607006
Wasn't Kitty, like, 13 and a half and Colossus was 20?

>>84601349
>Modern Doug Manhke
No fucking way man, read Ultra Comics or Superman Beyond, Mahnke is still an awesome artist

>Reis
He's decent, his paneling is fine and he draws good action, a little stiff but not poser tier. And he needs Rod Reis doing the inking otherwise it looks like trash.

>>84607318
Hughes literally said it was because of Rucka fuck off
>Mid 2000s
>early in Rucka's career
Oh you're just retarded.

I loved JR Jr's work on Daredevil, but since then he's been a complete whore, and never seems to have a decent writer.

>>84608919
Whut? JRJR's always on runs with good writers fucking it up with his potato art

Deodato. Marvel calls him one of their "biggest artists". He got to draw the Marvel NOW! pin-up picture. How can they not see what a talentless tracer he is?

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>>84603683
Aren't these two, like, in their 40s?

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>>84608939
No way, man. Somehow Jrjr ended up being exactly what both Ann Nocenti and Frank Miller needed for their works on Daredevil.

>>84609300
She-hulk also died by taking a rocket in the tit.

And Hellcat was literally in hell for years.

I am not saying they should go Speedball on it, but this is the just an opposite extreme to pure edge.

>>84608877
No Joe Prado is his best inker.

>>84609234
Editors don't seem to care as long as the art's handed in on time and sales are steady.

TIL /co/ thinks ugly faces = bad comic book art


A lot more goes into art than just anatomy and facial expressions, there's paneling, backgrounds, inner panel movement, panel-to-panel movement, density vs. minimalism, etc.

>>84611032
Wich most of the artist of these threads dont get either.

>>84607006
he wasnt mind controlled, he fucked a hot alien healer in secret wars who died after healing him, and couldnt go back to Kitty after that.

I think that happened because for Jim Shooter a 19 year old with a 14 year old girl was a no no. That is how they ended the Colossus Kitty relationship.
Colossus had to wait for the Whedon run decades later to fuck Kitty.

Colossus also fucked 2 chicks in the Savage Land, and impregnated one (he doesnt know he has a son) but that was before Kitty joined the XMen.

>>84609300
Leth is a womanchild, and you know what they say, only write what you know. The art is merely reflective of that.

>>84606348
Nah, it's really the coloring, as others have said.

Klaus Janson inked JRJR's stuff on his recent Superman run, and it was still ugly as sin. I mean, hell, I'm glancing at the pages of Superman 44 and some of the coloring is just SO distracting and bad.

>>84602272
Recently, Hitch has been fucking godawful. I'm glad he's not pencilling regularly anymore.

>>84609234
and he even drew a design for kate straight from some random dude's fanart

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>Jason Masters

He can't do dynamic action for shit, mosty because EVERY SET that he does is a traced sketchup environment.

>>84608891
>Hughes literally said it was because of Rucka fuck off

No he didn't, why are YOU lying? His editor said he hated it, not Rucka, the tweet says it. You really misread that Bleeding Cool article.

And that was early in his career. Shame on you for lying on the internet.

>>84613053
atleast he's off james bond soon

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The guest artists from Justice League 3000 #5.

>>84605405
>I can't get too upset at Liefeld, he's too hilarious

This. Liefeld's art may be crude, but in his prime I don't think he ever made a boring comic. Heroes Reborn was the point where you can tell the enthusiasm is running dry and he's starting to phone shit in

>>84600922
is this man the Bendis of art?

>>84600922
I cannot stand D'Armatta a lot more than I cannot stand Larocca.

D'Armatta has managed even some of the best artists look like shit.

>>84602203
Ross does draw stiff boring comics though. They're just incredibly pretty, stiff, boring comics.

>>84603981
Blowjobs

>>84601349
what's there to hate about Mikel Janin?

>>84618118
>what's there to hate about Mikel Janin?
The poser tracing