What are your thoughts on Kamala Khan as a character?

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Her wacky adventures are exactly what comic books need right now.

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Still only the second best hero to come out of Jersey City.

she`s alright but not that intresting

decompressed and generic, but not unenjoyable

>>84527609
Team up when?

>>84527459
She's one of the few good legacy characters Marvel has going right now. A lot of her stuff even reminds me of Lee era Spidey. She has a distinctive personality and it's legit fun to see her interact with other characters. Her main problem is that, being a legacy, she teams up majority with other legacies that are way more shit then her. Also, she should end up with Nova instead of Miles since Miles is hardly a character.

She's a girl
She's cute
I love her
Kamala!

Makes me want a falafel.

>>84527667
Also she needs a rogues gallery. And yes Sam/Kamala OTP.

As a character, i'd have to say i find her very BLACKED

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>>84527609
Doesn't Coop destroy Jersey City on a regular basis?

>>84527777
Kamala is not for sexual.

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Kamala as Pirate King WHEN?

>>84527667
>A lot of her stuff even reminds me of Lee era Spidey.
Except without the good writing or the risk of making your character actually go through consequences.
>b-but those stupid cats

>>84527777
DELEEEEEETE THIIIIIIIIIIIS

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>>84527957
>Comics from the 60s
>Good writing

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>Kamala will never hold you

Post lewd Kamala.

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>>84528222
kay

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>>84528268

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>>84528280

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>>84528222
If that's what you want.

>>84527459
Ms. Mohammad is jihad cool.

>>84528268
>>84528280
>>84528300
>>84528310
Not for sexual. She is too pure.

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>>84528375
You know she writes erotic fanfiction about her co-workers, right? That's canon.

>>84528046
>it's a "anon is too autistic to skip yellowboxes" episode

>>84527459
Degeneracy

MLP tier

All I remember is that a while ago people bitched that she was SJW pandering and now I almost exclusively see her within the context of hardcore waifufagging

>>84528375
She schlicks to erotic fanfiction of her co workers.

>>84528517
Spoken like a true /tv/ tourist. You don't read comic books, do you buddy boy?

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>>84527459
She's adorable

>>84527652
I am so down for that.

>>84528538
The fuck are you talking about?

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>>84528597
Just leave. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>84528612
I am just asking what specific kind of boogeyman you think I am based on your seemingly incredibly poor reading comprehension

By taking some of the burden of Spiderman's role as the young relatable hero maybe Parker will be allowed his marriage back.
I like her family dynamic.

As an auctual character though I don't know what to say compared to most of Marvel's current output she's incredible but honestly there's not a whole lot there but that's largly because she's still discovering herself.

Her fangirl nature should be really annoying but honestly I like it.

>>84527957
I must admit I'm not a fan of how quickly they dropped the o shit I punched her to hard stuff.

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I love everything about her adventures.

>>84528648
(not that anon)

You, >>84528517, are a deliberate shitposter, and what you've been trollposting here is a reportable offense.
Stop it, and don't just go do this crap to the next thread, actually stop doing it.

>>84528517
That's because when she was announced they hyped her up as the first Muslim superhero (not auctualy true) and up to then all marvels new minority characters were pretty shit this comic had all the signs of being horrible.

Then it came out and it was great the religion barely came up and when it did it was well writen, the story's were fun with some decent morals and the humor was pretty decent.

It's auctualy her brother that's the highly religious one a major theme of the comic is that everybody in her family has a difrent level of piety.

>>84528770
Wow that Kamala zombie apocalypse got out of hand quick.

>>84528834
Your paranoid anon.

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>>84528850
Understatement.

>>84528834
No, I am not

Put down the tinfoil hat

>>84527811
Its Jersey City. No one gives a fuck about jersey city.

>>84528875
>That night New Jersey received a grim reminder.

>>84528840
Ah, thanks

>>84528939

new jersian here, can confirm. fuck jersey city.

>>84528722
I'm reading her 2015 series right now and I think I should add she pays to much attention to bruno.

she was right to begin with if she had just made a public statement the problem would be solved right away she should not have let Bruno talk her out of it

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>>84528939
She saves you fuckers from clones, birds, and Canadian ninjas and you don't even care?

>>84528046
If I don't remember how bad it was, it must've been good- Some retard

If I read it growing up, it probably kicked ass- some other retard

/co/ doesn't give a shit about writing, they wouldn't be talking about half these comics (or children's (like actual, no crossover, full on kids shows, pet shop, bear house, the one with birds that people want to fuck/love) shows- the retard who made this post (who is a different retard than the previously mentioned retards)

>>84527749
Actually I'm surprised they haven't pit Kamala against the Jersey Devil. I mean villains based on urban legends are hardly new for Marvel.

>>84528415
what about anons who are too autistic to know what yellow boxes are? cause google gave me jack shit with "yellowboxes comics"

>>84529041
Jersey City is like New York City's retarded twin.

>>84527459
completely horrible

also, mutie scum

>>84529036
I liked the twist in that issue.

>>84528834
kill yourself

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>>84529041
If it was anywhere else in Jersey, then its a big deal. Hell, it could be Newark and i`d be alright.
But its Jersey City. Its just the city that everyone has to be begrudging pass through to get to New York. So yeah, i don`t care.

>>84529036
Although I suppose once the public has turned against you proof of innocence is not enough to get back all the trust.

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>>84527549
Go

>>84527459

Forced PC pandering

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>giant qt running through the streets will never be the norm

It hurts bros

Who would play her in the porn parody?

>>84529289
I thought Jersey City hated her because of the whole HYDRA thing.

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>>84529415
How can they stay mad at this?

Besides, they should be mad at Bruno. He's the one making clone armies, giant golems, dinosaurs, and fucking sky sharks.

>>84529253
I'm not going to make a miserable attempt in ms paint, but
>I'd recognize that big round beak in any corner of the universe
>I. DO NOT! HAVE A BIG BEAK!

>>84528412
evidence?

>>84529470
Bruno becoming a mad scientist hero when?

>>84529105
It's the prose part of early comics. I think. Anon is probably saying to just go by the dialogue.

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>>84529499
He pretty much already is.

>>84529499
>hero
Anon. Get real.

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>>84529495
And she tells them about it to their faces.

>>84529571
There are too many mad scientist villains. There needs to be a heroic mad scientist.

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>>84529495

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>>84529674

>>84527459
A fun character. Oddly enough, there hasn't been any interaction between her and Deadpool at all.

Just think of the hijinks that can ensue.

How come she always has giant fists when she grows?

>>84529775
She needs to stay away from Deadpool.

He's not for kids.

>>84529802
She makes them that way. Better for lifting and punching.

>>84529826
Yet that guy has been around just about everyone in Marvel.

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>>84529843
Giant Man doesn't do that. So does she hit harder than him? Is this just Gear 3 logic?

>>84529826
Was no problem with her meeting Gwenpool. Gwenpool isn't exactly for kids either.

>>84529873
Can he do it? Even theoretically? Has he ever shrunk or grown individual parts of his body before? Because Kamala does it all the time.

Besides, I just gave you the reason that her book gives.

>>84527946
When she followed the Grand Line and found the One Piece, duh.

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>>84529775

she was around Gwenpool during the holiday special. she [gwen] didn't exactly make a good first impression...

i have a feeling she wouldn't get along well with wade either, but it'd probably still be a fun read

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>>84529864
>>84529921
I was making a reference.

>>84528875
I read this with a cute perky voice in my head, but slowed down and booming with bass. Fucking loved these issues, this bit and Sky Shark are top tier.

>>84530160
So Bruno has created an army of Kamala Clones, A giant T-Rex and a Sky Shark. Why hasn't SHIELD payed his ass a visit yet?

>>84530058
What'd she do that made such a bad impression? Was her karaoke really that bad? Is it that she showed up late? Killing people takes time.

>>84530225
>What'd she do that made such a bad impression?
She's a total nut and it shows.

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>>84529826
Deadpool is good with kids

>>84530215
You forget his pocket Nukeular Reactor, Sky Shark was a group effort I'm sure. Does anyone have pictures of sky shark? It's just so happy it makes my day.

>>84527667
>Also, she should end up with Nova instead of Miles since Miles is hardly a character.
Sam/Kamala fags are this delusional.

>>84530058
Here's a question: Was Gwen Poole actually insane BEFORE falling into comicbook-land?
Because Alice was asking herself that half-way down the rabbit hole. And Gwen didn't.

>>84530287
>You forget his pocket Nukeular Reactor
Which for the most part was brushed off as a cartoon stick of dynamite going off in his face.

>>84529775
She stretchy hugged him in the Pleasant Hill incident.

>>84528093

Didn't notice this when i read the comic originally but
>hair

>>84530281
> "Pull my finger."

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>>84530415

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Lame teen self insert. She doesn't exhibit the self reflective contemplation or moral idealism that makes superheros interesting characters. There is no defining dichotomy within her psyche, the split between her civilian identity and heroic alter ego that brings about a transformation in her personality and body language like she's assuming a new persona when she becomes Ms. Marvel.

Without this kind of struggle with identity, she's lacking a great deal as character. I doubt she's even contemplated why she has chosen to appoint herself with such authority in society.

>>84530501
Crime fighting is FUN!

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>>84530501
SHE SHOULD TRY BEING FROM SPACE

>>84528310
That must hurt her back.

>>84527459

I think she's an apostate.

>>84527459
Best new character from Marvel in a LONG ASS time...

>>84530614
She's a size changing Inhuman.

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She's still underweight on rule 34.

>>84527811
Can anyone tell the difference?

Pic not quite related, it's camden, NJ.

>>84527885
It's ok. I like it better when it's haram.

>>84527957
It reminds me more of Milestone, specificaly Static. Which takes it's cues from spiderman.

>>84528093
Falcon can fly. The ONLY reason to do that is to grab his ass.

>>84528517
That's how they advertised her. And her writer was a literally who.

>>84530501
You mean, she didn't start out just punching baddies and later writers did not have to deal with the outcomes and implications of such egotistically cathartic vigilantism?
Because Kamala is a moral idealist who holds herself to an ideal of categorical justice.
She does not really punch people if she can avoid it. And she does not resort to terror tactics so she doesn't have to compare herself to her foes.
Her foes are ideological rat catchers and criminal entrepreneurs, not madmen who inexplicably won't stay jailed.
So she really doesn't need to question herself in that regard. Her actions simply aren't questionable like that.

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>>84527459
She seems to learn from her mistakes quicker or figure out how with some help work through them better than most other characters. I every now and then I just out of comparison to what I'm used to reading I find myself surprised by how reasonable she is. That stands out to me. Other than that just a really sweet well meaning goofy person that seems fun to hang with.

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>>84530519
>>84530554
I really do think this aspect of superheroes is neglected in modern writing. The superhero persona of a character is supposed to be their idealistic vision that is brought into the world to fulfill acts that the character is unable to act out themselves, usually acting as some kind of authoritarian strongman figure beyond the institutions of authority in society, a figure of moral authority in an ideal sense.

Not every superhero is like this obviously, but I believe this structure of character building is the basis for what a superhero is in an archetypal sense. The characters superhero alter ego is like a metaphysical thoughtform, the actualization of their ideal self.

It's like Hamlet facing the ghost of his father, seeing reflected in him the perfect idealization of his own identity that he was failing to live up to, this valiant Warrior King who would have had the courage to confront his uncle and take the throne that was rightfully his. The superhero alter ego is what the character wished they could have been at their lowest moment.

>>84530622
Yeah. I love it.
*tip*

>>84528412
I wonder what DC characters she ships, or how she'd react to meeting them in a crossover.

>>84530766
I vaguely recall a solicit for a one shot KAMALA FANFIC issue.

>>84530731
It's the questionable aspects of vigilantism and superheroics, the questions of whether or not the character is a righteous hero or a delusional madman that makes them interesting to read. Vigilantism is inherently an act of claiming fascistic authority in ones society, and the characters ideals should reflect this in some way. There should be some degree of selfishness and egotism in their personality.

A person who appoints themselves as a superhero will in one way or anther understand themselves as being beyond common people and the people around them in the way they perceive the world. The question is if this understanding of themselves is correct or not.

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What would Kamala look like IRL? Are Pakistani girls her age even able to be attractive?

>>84530766
She seems like a WonderBat kind of person.

>>84530810
Bat/Zatanna>WonderBat.

the dialogue in ms marvel... so fucking stupid. people love it and i'm the only one who hates it.

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>>84530798
I think because I made the joke once in a porn parody thread I always imagine she looks like Mia Khalifa.

>>84530798
>Are Pakistani girls her age even able to be attractive?
In an alternate universe w/o Izslum: yes.

>>84530834
Are you 40 years old or older?

>>84530058
dude! so bendis this dialog... is it bendis or one of his many clones that work at marvel meow?

What did you think of Kamala losing her shapeshifting power?

>>84530798
On the left second from the back with her hair covered (not like those whores up front, but of course with faces like that you have to show a little extra to get attention) could totally catch it. The on in front of her looks pretty good too, just angry.

>>84530842
Fake as fuck tits.

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Anyone got that pic of the hijab wearing girl with a bag like this?

>>84530880
I dunno. I think she's fine the way she is powerwise. Seemed like she had too many powers at first anyway.

>>84530880
I'd be fine with it if they didn't nerf her growing power too.

>>84530792
You presume that there is only one way to hero.
But I say you don't have to stage a shakespearean tragedy around yourself. If you like that, read Batman. No problem. But you can't go and demand everyone to be Batman.
Let others read about heroes who don't brood over what they mean but define themselves as a community service, someone to stand up and defend their values and their town.

>>84530880
It's confirmed she will regain them with time. I'm okay with the nerf because she was pretty OP for a beginner superhero

>>84529826
I still want a Halloween special with Deadpool chasing her in an attempt to get an autograph for Ellie, while Kamala sees him as a masked psychopath hunting her down.

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>>84530842
I'd cast her in the porn parody, but Mia's Arab and Kamala is Pakistani. If anything, she might look like Qandeel Baloch RIP.

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>>84530798
like this.

>>84530880
Didn't like it. Nobody says it, at least not that often but she's basically got the same powers as Elastiwoman. And I always think things like her bracelet stretching is really dumb. Plus when is a shapeshifter like a full on shapeshifter eve the main focus of a story. I think there's so much room to explore in that power set. BUT there's also something to seeing someon grow into there powers and gradually get stronger and figure things out, the Elastiwoman thing really does bug me though.

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>>84530880
I'm just waiting for her to discover the rest of her powers.

>>84530962
That is all kinds of haram.

>>84530964
>And I always think things like her bracelet stretching is really dumb.

She's magic though.

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>>84530953
I don't know who the fuck that is but she's kinda too pretty to play Kamala. In the face Mia with that nose is cute but somewhat off looking, plus she's a little darker. I'd still pick your choice for a movie only because I wouldn't hire a porn actress to act in a real movie (not on morals just on porn actresses can't really act for shit). But in the face at least Mia just looks like or closer to Kamala... Maybe Janina Gavankar for an older Kamala?

>>84531033
>/co/ casting
>hurrr let me just try to match an actor to a picture from one artist in particular

I hate you idiots.

>>84531019
Is that what it is?
Her stretching powers are magic?

I know it's like a writers convenience. But like I was saying earlier about no one delving into shapeshifters as lead characters but I really would enjoy someone with practical limitations to their powers, like not stetching there clothes and even if they shapeshift clothes they can still feel it like it was exposed skin so they get cold just as easily. Something like hat you know.

>>84531075
Well I love you anyway.

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>>84531033
>older Kamala
>not Sunita Mani

You're better off with comedian anyway, given that her book is goofy as shit.

>>84531104
>Her stretching powers are magic?

It's space magic, but I rarely ever see people give a shit. If the logistics of superpowers is something that triggers you, you shouldn't be reading cape books.

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>>84531120
yisss

>>84530934
I'm not asserting that other people shouldn't read this Ms. Marvel, I just came across this thread and decided to share my thoughts on the character and what I think defines the superhero archetype. I'm very passionate about the Heroic archetypes of story telling.

This idea of a community oriented hero versus a looming contemplative hero comes down to the Nietzschean concept of Master morality versus Slave morality, of Nobility and Commonality. The hero who is aligned with Master morality is a noble hero above common people, one who determines their own values without needing any approval but his own, one who creates values and levies judgement upon others. This is the Batman type of superhero who acts as the central figure of a tragedy that encompasses everyone around him and the whole world he lives in. It's from this sense of Master morality that they derive their authority.

The hero aligned with Slave morality, the common hero, has their values determined wholly by the masses of the community, by what offers utilitarian use in their service. Where the hero aligned with Master morality values nobility and strength, the hero aligned with Slave morality values what is weak and of the collective masses, and in fact comes to vilify strength and nobility. This Ms Marvel is aligned with Slave morality.

Essentially, Master morality is the act of creating your own beliefs, where Slave morality is having your beliefs shaped for you.

>>84530379
That's a good question

>>84528765
Although I guess it's better to spend to little time on it then to much

>>84530379
They've teased that she has some kind of problem with her family. Mental instability could be that problem. But really I just think it's a weird disassociation thing. Like she's in a pretty stressful unbelievable situation and she just ran with it. She kind of acts outlandish because she believes that's how people act in Marvel. She kills fairly easily because bad guys lives don't matter and so on. Plus she gets away with it fairly unscathed for the most part so there's nothing really to slap her out of it or even suggest that the way she goes about doing things isn't for the best.

>>84531196
Or you look at it through the lens of Kantian morality and look at whose behavior would be more acceptable if it was made into law.
Then you have a society of disturbed psychopaths on the one hand, a liberal community of normal people standing up for one another in the other.
The question really is whether you want to read a tragedy.

>>84531033

Qandeel Baloch was a Pakistani e-celeb. Murdered today for one of the usual religion of peace reasons (honour killing).

>>84531120
Well you win.

>>84531307
>Qandeel Baloch was a Pakistani e-celeb. Murdered today for one of the usual religion of peace reasons (honour killing).


>Look this up
>real name Fauzia Azeem
>killed by her brother, Waseem
>Waseem Azeem

It's pretty clear the parents are to blame for this. That kid wasn't going to be happy with his life no matter what.

>>84531360
>Breaking news!
>Japanese baking talent Azuma Kazuma shot by police after bake-shop massacre!

>>84531304
Yes, the most pertinent matter in this discussion is what makes for more interesting story telling in the context of our individual tastes. I think it's obvious that I'm deeply engaged by tragedies. Tragedy is the soul of story telling, our means of reflections and contemplation in regards to human suffering. Superheroes are meant to bear the weight of some significant degree of human suffering and be the vehicle through which we understand it. While a community oriented hero might feel good to some, I personally want to see more than that from a hero in a story.

As far as which conception of morality would be more acceptable if made into law, I disagree with the inherent collectivist assertion of the idea you're proposing, that all of society would be adherent to a single personality type. What I'm talking about is said with the assumption of human irrationality and imperfection in all things.

>>84527459
That I need to find Chiba's She-hulk doujin when I see this picture

>>84527459

Sand nigger there to try sell comics to other sand niggers pandering for sales

>>84531386
I do my brooding over society myself, thank you.
Hence I seek levity and idealism in my entertainment so as to not lose myself to dark thoughts.
But I think you misunderstand the Kantian logic. It's not about building a society around your ideology, but about asking what a society acting the way you do would look like and whether that is acceptable to you.
If you hinge on being the exception, you surely have some good reason to question yourself.
This is not about implying everyone was the same, but about finding out what is a good idea by leading it to the logical extreme of common acceptance.

>>84531509
This is assuming that common acceptance inherently defines what is a good idea, which is something I don't believe to be true. This line of thinking only serves to create false axioms from which people can only make misguided assertions. You're also speaking from an egalitarian perspective, which is something I also disagree with. You're suggesting that one should understand their own nature through the lens of social perception, putting collectivist values before their own.

As far as seeking pure levity from story telling, I personally see that as a form of cultural decline or degradation. Story telling, specifically tragedies, have always been our most poignant method of cathartically expressing our perceptions of human suffering, how we deal with this kind of existential despair.

>>84527459
She is pretty boring

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>>84531627
nope

>>84531612
You completely misunderstand the reasoning here. It's not to ask what people are thinking, but what would be a good idea if everyone acted according to a law formulated according to your actions.
That is not at all collectivist.

>>84531120
If this isn't Kamala in her 20s then who is?

>>84531827
Law is an amoral institution in society that exists as a lesser of two evils between itself and unchecked human depravity that comes with lawlessness. Besides that, we're talking about characters that hold themselves above the rule of law as it applies to common people

Lame

>>84531891
Not the guy you were talking to but you remind me why I really dislike the "super-soldier" take on superheroes that got big in the 00s and still has traces of it today

>>84527459
Wait a minute I recognice that artist

PORN WHEN

>>84532247
What do you mean? I think I understand what you're referring to, but you should elaborate

She's cool desu. Sorta feels like how I felt reading Ultimate Spidey as a kid.

Decent, cool Indian Superhero when? Yes, I am indian.

>>84532276
Like the ultimate universe in general or how in the MCU, the Avengers were glorified SHIELD agents. That sort of thing

eh

>>84532322
That's what I thought, and I agree. It's such a cheap short cut for creating a character

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>>84532320
You got 2 out of 3

>>84532380
It's fine if you play around with it but playing it straight misses the point of superheroes IMO. At that point you're just somebody's pawn in a funny suit.

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>>84527667
>Also, she should end up with Nova instead of Miles since Miles is hardly a character.
You just can't leave your mad at the door for a moment can you?

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>>84527459
>>84531467
KAMALA DOUJIN WHEN, CHIBA?

Really Kamala just do a Marvel harem title, you can make Amadeus Cho the lead for an /ss/ angle, just do it mang.

>>84529061

Marvelverse Jersey Devil is an alien race, or something.

There was a Fantastic Four story about it.

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>>84528093
>ywn hold Kamala

>>84533446
Why not both? Maybe even at the same time

When is Kamala going to fuck Bruno and make Mike watch?

>>84529253
>You're a giant faggot!
>I am not!

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>>84528222
Surprised she hasn't gotten more /d/ love desu. The possibilities are endless.

>>84530962
>tiny schnoz
NOT MUH

Is Kamala's body malleable enough that she could grow a bunch of vaginas and have sex with all the boys at once?

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>>84532320
>She's cool desu.
>Yes, I am indian.

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>>84532509
The drawthread's gonna have a field day with this aren't they?

>>84533484
I can envision how that'd be possible but it's a little gross desu

>>84533560
She's a full blown shapeshifter, anon. She just barely uses it outside of stretching

>>84527459
Needs to be less loved by literally everyone and needs to hang out less with Inhumans and Avengers. Especially the latter.

She needed like 5 years of being mostly independent and building relationships with other characters. I don't even get it, is she being shipped with Miles or Sam right now? What about Bruno?

After getting her powers she turned from nerdy underdog who is wondering "if A-listers have days like this" into, well, fucking Avenger in no time.

>>84533560
Would probably require a deeper knowledge of biology than she has. Seems she can just shapeshift in the most literal sense.
>tfw can't find the couch pic
>>84533611
Anybody have the page/know the issue where she officially stops? In Attilan's ER, after she got shot. I thought it was a short-term thing but since she's not done it at all since so I'm worried it's physiologically permanent for whatever reason.

>>84533650
It was a short term thing, she just doesn't do it. It's like how you never see the Human Torch green latnerning objects that don't even burn even though he used to do it a lot. The power wasn't lost

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>>84533595
One can only hope so.

>>84527459
A cutie.

I honestly don't mind Kamala. In fact, from what I've read, outside of Bendis, I rather enjoy her. I think that it's because she is a good legacy character, something which I love.

Also, the adventures she has, while wacky, do actually feel like that they could work in the pre-SJW Marvel. My biggest problem with her is ultimately the time she was released in. Because, buying her book make it's seem like enjoy a wacky Marvel.

>>84530735
Well, while that would be AMAZING to read, didn´t Alan Moore kind of debunk that line of thought in Watchmen? I really don´t know, I have never read Watchmen and am only going one hear-say.

>>84530735
I honestly think that this is why I enjoy characters like Cyclops and Hellion.

For with the two of them, when put into the hands of competent writers, there is a clash of identities. It is not a 'Bates vs Kid Miracleman' or anything as clear as that. Rather it's the clash between their identity as a man and a hero.

Both of those guys, I think, want to be the good guy. They want to be the two people who save the world and their reasons for it ultimately seem altruistic. However, because they live in the Marvel Universe, they keep having shit piled on them. And it's really interesting watching that clash as the two figure out where their priorities are. Whether they want to be heroes or they want to be normal people.

But, it's always subtext. I mean, Scott's entire thing as that he chooses between his emotions (The Man) and the right thing to do (The Hero). And as much as we like to go on about 'Rightclops', the simple fact is, we've seen what it has done for his life and it's not pretty. His desire to be good keeps sabotaging his relationship with his family and friends, something that Scott is well aware of. The big question is, how long can he go on like this and where is it going to take him.

Meanwhile, Hellion is total foil to Scott. Instead of logic, he is driven by emotions to become an 'ideal hero'. He does what he feels is right rather than what he knows is right. And like Scott, that drive sabotages his life. For, he 'reacts' to situations and that can lead him into a very dark place if he lets it. I mean, when he lost his hands, his emotions totally dominated him, leading to one of the greatest and most horrifying scenes that he has been involved in. But this means that like Scott, there is a huge question over Julian's head. It's whether he is a man, lashing out at everyone or whether he is a hero and has a firm code which he follows.

>>84533635
I honestly think Bruno got side lined for the Trinity thing. Marvel just trying to cash in on her success to quickly and not giving it time to build. At least Champions has her removed from that but that should have been her first team instead of the Avengers. I agree she is getting too much love in universe with basically no one disliking her and Tony/Carol fighting over her. She needs time away from the Avengers and Carol especially since both have controlled her plot direction in the volume so far.

>>84533635
This, this right here, i feel like she was a better character when she was just a superhero fangirl who happened to turn into a c lister and was still far away from avengers shenanigans

She's too fucking cute. I love her.

>>84534062
>Too quickly
Isn't that Marvel's thing? No build up, just throw everything at the wall. The more you throw, the more will stick!

>>84534062
>First chapter is her being saved by the avengers and tony giving her a ride home
>Clone arc ends with Carol saving the day and then tony shows up and they argue because CIVIL WAR
>Mathlete chapter is trinity stuff
>now we are into the civil war tie ins
It feels like half the book has been advertising other comics.

>>84534257
I feel like the seasonal model Marvel is pushing for their books is going to lead to a lot of this everywhere.

I want to do sinful things with her. Just stuff her butt with my shame-gravy and feed her pork.

>>84529499
>>84529544

What's Hank Pym up to nowadays, he could probably use an intern.

>>84534338
Isn't he still Ultron and some random faggot from San Francisco is the new Giant-Man?

>>84527459

Did she ditch the memes?

>>84529873
>Gear Third.jpg

>>84534422
She went extra dank.

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>>84534021
Cyclops is among the best when it comes to this kind of idea, due to being instilled with this idea of being the savior of the mutant race by Xavier at the expense of his childhood

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>>84534765
Scott had an hard life

>>84530398
Know which book is it in? Wanna try finding it now.

>>84534765

Scott I would say isn't trying to be a savior. He is just forced into decision after decision where he has to make the tough call. He knows what it's like to do that and does not want any of his friends to partake as it's painful, but at the same time a mixture of self-hatred and selflessness keeps him making those calls.

>>84535012

Oh boy, I agree with this. I mean, Scott's probably the most realistic abuse victim that's ever existed in the media of capeshit.

>>84535063
ANADA, the issue where they clash with the Uncanny Avengers.

She's a mudslime terrorist.

Shame Kamala doesn't come off as someone who would embrace their sexuality.

>>84535332
So long as she embraces mine.

>>84530311
But Miles isn't a character, he's a bland soulless shit that should get killed off.

>>84532509
I'm more mad that Miles is still a thing.

>>84535627
He is a character though, he acts, he questions, he thinks, and he feels. "Miles isn't a character/has no personality" is a meme spawned from an extension of Bendis hate and anger from Sam/Kamala fags.

>>84527459
she is a mutant, fuck her

>>84535679
>he acts, he questions, he thinks, and he feels.

That's not what people mean when they say he's not a character. What the mean is that he' bland, has virtually no personality, has no further purpose in 616, and has had no damn development at all. He's the worse spider.

>>84528046
60's Spiderman probably has the best writing of anything from that decade. The early Marvel universe did a lot to define what we think of as comic book storytelling today.

>>84535762
>has virtually no personality
That's not true though, he's timid but brave when he feels he has to be, smart but lacking common sense.
>has no further purpose in 616
True, but that doesn't really seem like a reason to hate him.
>and has had no damn development at all
That's wrong, he developed in the Ultimate Universe, he still remembers it.

>>84535868
He's Peter but without all the flaws. That's not personality, that's Mary Sueing. And the development he went through was all undone, like his mom coming back to life.

>>84535989
>He's Peter but without all the flaws
But he does have flaws, he's too trusting ( i.e he passes out his secret identity like it's candy), he doesn't really stand up to authority figures, and the lacking common sense thing. To escape some missiles that were following him through the city he decided to swing upwards...where there were no more buildings to swing off of.
>And the development he went through was all undone, like his mom coming back to life.
He still experienced it though, you don't unlearn a lesson just because the consequences of something were undone, you just know to not fuck it up this time.

>>84536120
Except those flaws are always played off to his advantage and other see him as endearing because of it.

>>84527459
shes nit much of a character. just a waifu baiter.

>>84529775

I don't get any Deadpool vibes from her. She's a superhero nerd who can't shut up about that fact and Deadpool is a lolrandum character (if the wrong guy writes him).

They're nothing alike.

>>84536250
>Except those flaws are always played off to his advantage and other see him as endearing because of it.
That's wrong though, in the Ultimate Universe he told his girlfriend his secret identity and he almost instantly gets kidnapped by Hydra.
Have you even read Miles' comics?

>>84529615
>forgetting Hank "Bitch Slap" Pym

>>84533831
>I have never read Watchmen
Stop what your doing and read it.
There's a reason it's considered a masterpiece

>>84530735

Extraordinariness ~ {superpower, will and training, talent}

Superhero = Entity + Extraordinariness + Doing good

That's about it. Everything else is nonessential.

>>84536353
That only happened once

>>84527459
why does this thread keep popping up?

>>84536499
That just means Hank got his point across the first time.

>>84536729
Because people keep being interested in her.

>>84535989
>he's Peter but without all the flaws
All that happened with his uncle using him; his complex relationship with his father after he unmasked himself; his sibling bonding with Jess after their rough start where she tried to get him removed as a superhero; his struggle with Captain America who still felt guilted over Peter; his friendship with his bro but retarded friend Ganke who let things out; how he fell after he got his mother killed; the struggle to put on the mask again and help a bunch of experimented people he couldn't relate too?

Yeah, totally like Peter and going flawless at that.

>And the development he went through was all undone, like his mom coming back to life.
This happens to Peter like ever few years now. Remember OMD? You gonna give up on him?

>>84530484

>Empowered

Hmmm, nice.

>>84527459
I hate her with unparalleled rancorous hate but at the same time I want to fuck her in a consensual fashion, It is a confusing paradoxical feeling that I don't much care for.

I hate when people draw her with a tiny nose and no eyebrows. Like come the fuck on you cant draw this one character in a way that isnt 'typical pretty girl with pretty girl features'

>>84527459
When's he was finally pulled away from her dipshit creator she became a pretty good character with fun adventures

GET GAIL SIMONE OF THE BOOK RIGHT NOW

She created Kamalas voice and supporting cast and that's great but she's clearly run out of ideas

Kamala is written better by everyone else who touches her at this point

>>84537527
Many artists can only draw one face/gender/race etc.

>>84536833
>/co/mblr
>poeple

pick one.

>>84537850
I know but this is /co/ and we shouldn't talk about manga artists here

BADUMTOOSH!!

>>84529690
>NOTHING can stop the juggernaut
kek

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cute

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>>84529253

>>84533542
Oh Christ. I've never thought of it before, but Kamala totally faps to fanfiction of herself. That's a disturbing thought

>>84528770
I always loved getting to a page like this and seeing that it all makes perfect sense in context.

>>84541180
>faps
But- Oh, wait shapeshifter. Carry on.

You know what ms marvel needs. A writer with a brisk sense of storytelling. Enough of these nine month arcs to introduce one villain. Back in The 90s sleepwalker was getting a New one each month.
I feel like she's been around for a while And I've gotten all of three or four stories out of her.

>>84530880
She never lost it to begin with. Wilson simply writes Kamala as not liking the use of it.

>>84530964
When she first got her powers, she demonstrated the ability to morph anything in direct contact of her skin, such as her clothes.

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>>84533650
>>tfw can't find the couch pic

>>84537708
You mean G. Willow Wilson, right?

>>84543499
Spider-Man introduced all his biggest foes in his very first year, culminating in them forming the first Sinister Six. Kamala took almost an entire half-year to properly introduce just one villain.

>>84544609
Well, that is something I can never unsee.

>>84544696
People complained that there wasn't any port of Kamala getting freaky with her powers? Well, here it is. All one image of it.

>>84544609
Thaaaaat's more like it.
>>84545485
Cheers dude.

>>84543644
you too

>>84543851
That's because it's not about being a super hero, it's about pushing Islamic propaganda.

>>84536250
>others see him as endearing because of it
>instantly gets berated by Cloak and Dagger when he tells them that he told his girlfriend that he's Spider-Man

>>84527459
She's great when you get over the fact that she's Islamic propaganda.

>inb4 /pol/
In the first fucking issue, they demonize the person who dares to suggest that Muslims don't treat women nicely, because obviously it's just evil propaganda made up by high school bullies.

>>84547810
You need to go back, /pol/

>>84527459
I keep waiting for the comic were Punisher shits all over Islam and shows her how evil and sick her faith is.

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>>84547965
I kinda want this too

>>84547810
>muh raging hate
Please gtfo.

>>84530646
>Ignoring Robbie Reyes and Roz Solomon

>>84547965
You know very well this will never happen. Because people like

>>84547906
>>84549227

exist and are easily offended. And unfortunately they are everywhere.

>>84537466
Poor anon

>>84534338
Considering Mary Jane is working for stark now that's not that far fetched

One of the only good progressive characters to come out of Marvel lately, mainly because she has a personality beyond vitriol and feminism quotes.

>>84547810
I agree that bit was shitty but it had far more to do with that sort of attitude in general then Islam.

>>84549522
You DO know how many Americans kill Americans every year, right? It's like ten thousand times what a couple dudes in ISIS gear can accomplish. And all that history of the US going in and messing up other countries, even killing off the natural Americans and dumping other foreign people here to work the fields, man the stuff about what a great nation we are, pure propaganda. Us Americans should be locked away and looked after.

>>84527459
Garbage.

>>84551011
Oh shut it.

>>84539423
Why is she so adorable?

>>84533595
Where is he anyway haven't seen him in a while

>it's a /pol/ can't tell the difrence between Arabian culture and Muslim religion episode

>>84527459
I NO LONGER WISH TO KISS KAMALA

>>84551011
ISIS isn't the only country that practices Sharia law. Every Muslim country practices it.

>>84527811
Yeah and nobody can tell

>>84528046
Are you honestly saying comics these days have better writing

>>84527459
I'll like her when she leaves Islam

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>>84529253

>>84558056
Well she's does consider it at times look at her slavering over the delicious infidel meat

>>84527459
I want to fuck her ass

>>84558347
I don't I want to stick my penis between her breasts.

And it's going to be extremely rough while I gently play with her arsehole.

>>84558580
>not wanting to run your thick delivery truck down her promenade

u sum kinda poof m8?

>>84558767
I have extremely malformed hands my finger is wider then my penis

>>84558855
That's kinda hot

>>84558855
>my finger is wider then my penis

Just like Kamala!

>>84529253
>Give me the diamonds
>Never!

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cute bump

She's how diversity in comics is supposed to be done. She didnt replace anybody, and her identity is uniquely her own with her persona being literally only an homage.

>>84536729
Because those who dont fall for the /pol/ meme are pleasantly surprised by one of the best newish characters from the big 2.

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Kamala is cute

CUTE

How is she doing popularity and sales wise? I'd like to think that she's one of the most popular pseudo-reboots that Marvel has done recently.

>>84564282
>I'd like to think that she's one of the most popular pseudo-reboots that Marvel has done recently.

You'd think correctly.

>>84564282
She stably hovers around 30k in physicals, but word is the digitals are really good.

>>84562515
>>84561008
>redhead

what

>>84564395
>but word is the digitals are really good.
>Le Digitals are really good Meme
If digital sales are so good why don't they publish the data?

>>84564909
That's up to Comixology to publish the digital data not Marvel. We only even get physical sales because Diamond chooses to report them. Basically no comic companies actually report sales numbers themselves.

Ms Marvel was also Marvel's second best trade in normal bookstores after Civil War in 2015 (and we get those numbers from Nielsen's Bookscan info, again not the publishers). She genuinely performs well.

>>84547810
I think you're missing the point

She's good DESPITE Islamic propaganda.

She's not a dispenser of it.

>>84562515
Crimefighting is CUTE

The inevitable Ms. Marvel vs Punisher crossover.

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>>84567457
>Waifu acquired.
>Stealth-kill mode engaged.
Do it for her.

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>>84527459
Like Simon Baz and Miles Morales combined.

Except not shit.

>>84567457
that Punisher trope will never get old.

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>>84568010
FACT: Simon is cuter than Kamala

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>>84567457
muh heart