I miss this Marvel. Avengers, X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Street

>>84459590
Someone do some voodoo magic and curse Jack Kirby to draw forever

>there will be no more F4 books in our lifetime because Marvel are Jews and wont make a book they cant then profit movies of off

Something always gets me about this art, and I think it's that the tone of Marvel, for the most part, should be like an 80s action movie.

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What the hell is Batgirl doing here?

>>84459590

me on the left

>>84459741
That's Hellcat you nigger

>>84459590
I blame the cancer trinity Kamala, miles and nova

>>84459590
>mentions X-Men
>none of them are on picture

>>84459590
Shooter era Marvel was the best cape company in history.

Sana Amanat / Brian Michael Bendis / Disney era Marvel is the worst comic company in history.

>>84459812
But Kamala is CUTE, CUTE and Nova is ADORINGLY DUMB. Miles is nigger so fuck him.

>>84459814

beast is right fucking there

>>84459870
As an Avenger, not X-Man.

>>84459590

Early Claremont Uncanny X-Men and New Mutants is my shit nigga.

>>84459904

not him but scarlet witch too, i know they're not x-men as of this moment but I think we can guess OP mentioned them because beast is more recognizable as x-men.

>>84459835
>implying sand niggers are any better than normal niggers
Fuck off.

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>that vision costume

Get that garbage out of here

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>being a characterfag
>not reading non marvel stuff
You only have yourself to blame

>>84460128
I'd still rather have shit like this than the modern stuff.

What is it about Kirby's art that make me want to live in his world forever

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>>84460189

>>84459590
>taken seriously in-universe
Yeah I hate all the self aware writing going on. It comes across as people who are embarrassed or ashamed to be working on the material which is like going back to the Golden Age where it was common for cartoonists to lie about what their job was

I felt like Rick Remender was really good at branching out into the crazier parts of Marvel without ever turning to the reader and winking

>>84460247
Yeah, the only adaptation that's been able to capture that type of thing is Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

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I love this page.

Whatever is going on at Marvel currently doesn't even remotely resemble the classic Marvel that got them popular in the first place. It's really sad.

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>>84460443
Nothing nowadays resembles what it used to be.

>>84460456

Snowbird in a blizzard is the greatest gag for a comic ever

>>84460477
Vision is the only thing they've made in the past like 30 years I'd consider a great book - and that's because of Tom King, not Marvel.

>>84460197
Oh man the position of the moon/sun behind Cap is just beautiful.

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>>84460509
Ewing's stuff is good.

>>84460509
> past like 30 years
For me X-Force/X-Statix was Marvel's last great comic

>>84460537
His mighty Avengers was pretty weak (for Ewing) but it made Nextwave canon and that buys it a lot of points from me

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>This thread

>>84460697
> old

I didn't start reading comics until college when Siege was new. It's easy to see that writing and art have declined at Marvel

>>84460709
Man, Wolverine used to be so fucking awesome.

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>>84460767
Yeah

>>84459741
>Doesnt fucking know about Hellcat

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>>84460477
You call that Krackle?

Damn, kids...

>>84460509
>Brubaker's captain america
>Morrison's and Whedon's X-men
>Jms spider-man
> Bendis and Brubaker Daredevil
>Hickman's Fantastic Four
I know you're just shitposting, but that's just delusional.

ITT: I wish comics were the way they were before I started reading comics.

>>84460509
dont forget runaways. That officially got me into comics.

>>84461082
Why are you acting like that's surprising?

>>84459590
I wouldn't say there were a lot of great comics at this time but it certainly was a golden era for continuity nerds. Mark Gruenwald was powerful at the company and made sure every book was filled with continuity references, call-backs, and explanations of how a character could be in two comics at the same time.

Operation Galactic Storm, which Gruenwald masterminded, has to be one of the tightest and most continuity-conscious big crossovers.

>>84460757

Art wise the quality is the same unless you want to cherrypick certain titles. Most of the same artists of that era still work for the company.

>>84460189
>>84460197
Wasn't this from Maximum Carnage?

Only J.M. Dematteis could polish that turd into something vaguely worth reading.

>>84460247
Marvel has had a Catholic guilt about publishing superhero comics since the 00s. It's why I can't stand most of what they made up to today. If Marvel was like they were from the 60s, 70s, and 80s I'd be in hog heaven.

>>84460483
kek

>>84459590
You're in the minority then. The success of the Ultimates over the late 90s Avengers proved what the kids really want.

>>84459741
leave this place, immediately

>>84468472
Late '90s Avengers was a consistent top 10 seller. It dropped out of the top 10 after a) George Pérez left and they couldn't find a new regular artist; b) the new management stopped promoting it because it was too old-fashioned.

I'm not saying Ultimates wasn't popular, just that Avengers was no kind of a dying book pre-Ultimates or even pre-Bendis.

>>84459814
exactly

>>84460314
Looking at this image, Marvel is just fine without the X-Men. It doesn't even feel like they're missing. Honestly the FF is some of the Marvelest shit they have. They need the right back.

>>84468584
Doomfag pls.

The MCU killed the comics universe.

I blame postmodernism.

Everything has to be fucking ironic, cutesy, self-referential "We're a really silly, outdated medium but we know it so it's okay". I hate that. It's defeatist.

Slice-of-life stuff is great, to REMIND us occasionally that these larger-than-life people are human after all. It shouldn't dominate everything to the extent the superheroing is pushed to the background.

But even as I write this, I realize some comics did and do this very well (Spider-Man, Miss Marvel) and some subvert it brilliantly (Vision).

Could it be we're just short on good writers?

>>84468702

...No, I can't agree. The two are very well separated. Marvel has learned the comics don't benefit from emulating the movies.

>>84459624
That is blatantly not Jack Kirby

>>84468472

Different markets in different times.

Late nineties comic industry was limping all together.

>>84468778
If anything it's imitation John Buscema. (Buscema left Avengers after issue 300 but for years after that everyone on the title imitated him and worked with his regular inker.)

>>84466683
Byrne gets a lot of shit for this, but it's really a great character moment for Doom.

>>84459624
>>84468778
>>84468832
The name is right in the fuckin image guys.

>>84469155
The Speaker of the House!

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>>84469155
>Paul Ryan

Never knew he had a comic book career before politics and modeling.