Homestuck

>>84369650
He would have just fucked everything up.

To be fair, neither was Kanaya. You could remove the trolls and the plot would more or less be the same. Probably better.

>>84369650
He's supposed to be important -later- you silly goose. Like in the epilogue if such a thing were allowed to actually happen.

Probably so he didn't die or some shit in battle but

In that same line of reasoning, why didn't condy automatically snag jade the second she woke up and murdered everyone?

ESPECIALLY after seeing Game Over I find it total bullshit that jade, bec noir, or pm weren't immediately mind controlled into leading condy to victory once they were in her range

or what about jasprose? can she just not control sprites? because hello, cat

>>84369784
condy was sposed to be distracted enough that she didnt know all those peeps were around

>>84369808
She at least knew GCAT was around so why the fuck didnt she use that

>>84369842
Do you remember what happened to Tavrosprite? Of course if you're talking about the period of time leading up to that where she let GCAT run free for some reason it's probably just bad writing.

>>84369876
Thats the time period i was talking about. GCAT was out there, condy knew this because shed been using it the entire damn session, and yet for some reason, she didnt keep it by her side when she actually fucking needed it

also i have a hard time believing vriskas telepathy is at all stronger than hers

>>84369892
Condy's telepathy may be strong but she apparently doesn't have the knack for doing the sleep/wake thing. Which definitely could have done with a little explaining I'll admit.

>>84369930
get this fucking autistic shit out of these threads, theyve been getting purged faster and faster and i want to have some real fucking discussions here

>>84369934
Yeah I can't recall a single time her powers were actually properly outlined. We basically got "yeah fuchsia bloods are op" and that was about it.

>>84369780
>implying sucking dave's dick and wearing the official "leader of trollkind kidde badge" is important

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>>84369930
You're not going to force your meme Tipsy, sorry.

>>84369953
Are you questioning the mother of monsters, anon?

>>84369949
they didnt need to be outlined again, she just had every troll psychic power combined.

>>84369989
And was apparently shit at using them compared to some 16 year old cunt?

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>>84369994
shes got beauty not brains

>>84370000
Yes good.

>>84370017
That's not even a good edit.

>>84370030
I was about to make some sort of objection but her minions of choice are juggalos so
fair point

>>84370030
Remember when Karkat praised Condy as a great leader

>>84370051
Karkat had a raging hard on for violent and oppressive leadership though not necessarily strategic and well thought out shit

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>>84369957
Jade deserves more experience than that

>>84370068
good thing hes gonna be the spiritual leader of the new trolls then!

>>84370270
Never seen this pic in full resolution before, neat.

>>84370270
Do you think Echidna subtly whispered things to Jade to make her even more desperate to breed?

>>84370368
more like jade whispered things to echidna that were so lewd and exciting they were what paradoxically inspired her to become the ultimate goddess of breeding and motherhood in the first place

>>84369650
Hussie's dad died of cancer, so Hussie took it out on Karkat.

>>84370030
Makes you wonder how she kept Alternia running and how she could fuck over the Summoner's rebellion when it happened, before she had a hint of psychic powers. I guess she had an instant 'nuke all' in the form of Gl'bgolyb... ?

Man, I miss Doc Scratch. He did some scary First Guardian shit but he was so good at fucking over his targets with words alone. And Jack, too. He was a murderdog but he knew a thing about strategy.

Condy and LE were mistakes.

>>84370368
The mother of all puppies versus the mother of all monsters
Who outbreeds who?

>>84370653
Jade, easily

>>84370555
>And Jack, too. He was a murderdog but he knew a thing about strategy.
uh, i dunno about that one. jack was good because he was a one-dimensional ai that only wants to stab things accidentally given the power to stab everything

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http://sta.sh/01znm1rugx5d

http://www.strawpoll.me/10704825

pick one

>>84370976
>three votes for aloof, the worst option

>>84371078
>implying the edgy, generic third answer isn't the worst
Kill yourself.

>>84370976
I like it best with most kids trying to fit in, and a couple of them having other approaches. It's the most in-character option.
I can see some, like Jake, getting fed up and leaving to be alone somewhere far away. Dirk might do something dramatic and grand just for fun. Jane might enjoy throwing her status around? Dunno.

Obviously Vriska will probably try and exploit her position all the time, causing a fuckload of collateral damage. So eventually someone like John will rise up and kick her ass like Thor with old-time Loki. Repeat every hundred years or so.

>>84371102
Found the tumblrite who is afraid to rule

>>84371104
fortunately vriska is GONE FOREVER

>>84371102
#1 is the most generic. Every fucking boring post-sburb shitty high school fanfic has it.

>>84370941
what do we call fans of fantrolls? fantrollfans? so people who bait fantrollfans are fantrollfantrolls?

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Homestuck is a joke.
If you didn't get it, you probably weren't reading hard enough.

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>>84371301
you call them faggots

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>>84371170
I'd like to believe that, anon. I'd like to.

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What is the influence behind the maid outfit?

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>>84371656
hoodies with coattails and leg wraps

>>84370555
>how she could fuck over the Summoner's rebellion when it happened
Well the subjuggulators and higher ranking blue bloods in military positions likely played a big part. Even if many of the lower bloods have strong psychic abilities they're going up against stupidly physically strong trolls with greater organisation and training. The Summoner likely screwed himself over trying to keep his public appearances going and that allowed him to be captured, had he just gone full guerrilla rebels mode then he'd have likely survived much longer whilst causing more damage to the empire. That being said it's hard to make a meaningful point with tactics like that, outside of just "fuck you, we don't like you or your way of doing things".

>>84370941
>outfits are all preset
>no mix and matching

>>84371553
ah so like what we call homestuck fans then

>>84371656
since it was first designed for aradia, little red riding hood

it's also why she stopped bec noir

oh i miss when homestuck tried

>>84371656
You mean like some 80s or 90s fantasy movie where a character wore leg wraps like that and it's tied into the maid theme in some way? Cause I got nothing.

>>84372050
I didn't make it, my friend.

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>>84371656
that is a damn good question. We know the Witch outfit is Wizard of Oz, and the Seer outfit is a gypsy fortune-teller thing. >>84371802
has a decent idea of the coattails like a butler's morning suit. the legwraps though.... generic fantasy peasant clothes? No idea. Might be valuable to find out.

>>84372223
the front coattail clearly symbolizes the vagina

>>84370993
I can't believe I pledged 50$ for Heaven's Swap

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>>84371553
>welfar
haha goddamn it

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>>84372266
that's the only thing i see... a sexy camel toe

>Joey Claire
>JC

>>84372354
>jude
>judas

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>>84372354
>>84372365
>Hussie
>Hussy

Part 1: Phantom Beta
Part 2: Battlefield Treachery
Part 3: Scratched Crusaders
Part 4: Drama is Unbearable
Part 5: Homosucko Aureo
Part 6: Stone Retcon
Part 7: Serket Bull Rush
Part 8: Epilion

>>84372447
>>84372365
>>84372354
>horuss
>horse

>>84372513
>>84372365
>>84372354
>kanaya maryam

>Can I, uh, marry him?

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>>84372354
>>84372365
/r/Joey Claire on a cross while Jude snickers in the background

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>>84372511

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reminder he will kill and betray joey at the end of hiveswap

>>84372622
[Savior of the Waking World Intensifies]

>>84372622
Hail Condesce

>>84372692
>>84372622
Well, if Joey is JC she would come back, but how?

No Sburb/Sgurb in this

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>>84370017
JADE: how about..... we both get pregnant!

>>84372780
trolls don't get pregnant

>>84372692
Savior of the Waking World is proof that anyone who says Toby is the worst Homestuck composer is full of shit

>>84372757
the red troll was a life player all along

it ends with them playing the alpha release of sburb

>>84372803
JADE: i think you might be underestimating my fertility :D

>>84372803
Dave can get pregnant though (see: The Baby is You)

>>84372809
Who is the actual worst?

>>84372926
James Roach

>>84372809
no one worth paying any attention to says that

>>84372948
cmon man :(

>>84369650
It was to get him out of the way.

I feel like Kanaya and Karkat got the same fate

By going gay for the Strilondes they became more fuckdolls than anything

>>84373210
kanaya never wanted anything but to be a fuckdoll

>>84372970
Sorry James.

How's that Hiveswap going?

>>84372312
>「HEAVEN'S SWAP」
there

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>>84373222

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>>84372050
When I finish drawing all the outfits, I may go back and split them in two (or three for separate shoes) so that mix and matching can occur. It's just simpler right now to have them preset while I draw more assets

>>84374015
I think you heard wrong. I said Vriska has a 8ig weiner!

i'm beginning to suspect katnep shitter and the *gives karkat my 8ig futa 8ulge and 8s him* roleplay tard are the same person
HMMM.

>>84374728
>roxy
>incest
not a difficult decision

My fantroll is unironically Adolph Hitler.

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>>84374832
Would the ship name for Roxy/Rose be Rose Wine?

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any fantrolls based on mobsters?

>>84374905
Yeah.

Lord English
Spades Slick
Mobster Kingpin

They're my favorite trolls

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>>84374897
I suppose that rolls off the tongue better than HOT WET INCESTUOUS BLONDE WHORES

>>84374932
trolls you mongoloid
TROLLS

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Roxy benefits from what I call the "Aqua" effect

In a cast of unlikable morons, the nice and competent one will be elevated and adored by the fans

>>84374969
they're trolls

>>84375003
where are his fins

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>>84374905
Create one, anon. Homestuck hasn't "ended" yet it is not too late

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>>84375003
>all that hair
>not even the cute kind of body hair

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>>84374996
Pretty much; even among her peers in the Alpha kids she stood out, given she didn't perpetuate drama like the other 3 did for much of their screen time. Though to be fair that's quite an oversimplification, given there's enjoyable parts to Dirk and sometimes Jane and Jake. Roxy also benefits from a much increased meaningful screen time than many other characters, given her involvement in the retcon quest. Also a lot of the characters we got after said quest ended didn't seem like their previous iterations, whilst Roxy stayed notably consistent. Lastly, she was commonly around John, who isn't exactly the most interesting character at the best of times, which helped to enhance her with the supposed "Aqua" effect you described.

>>84375109
treasure trails are cute as fuck on girls

>>84374996
She's also a shitty character.

>>84374996
the number one reason people like roxy is just that she just says a lot of funny shit. same appeal as dave

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>>84374996
>>84375207
>>84375253
>>84375288

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>>84375351
gcatavros
vs.
Aranea!

>>84375351
>tavros
>tries hard to improve

>>84375351
if tavros was even 1/4 as funny as roxy he might earn the right to compete with her in other regards

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>>84375371
Why is she so dank?

>>84375384
>implying he didn't

>>84369650
>Hey Karkat is important to the future of the Troll Race!
>And you need to make sure to use that egg to bring back the Trolls!
>Karkat is busy sucking Dave's dick during the ending.
>Kanaya is busy sucking Rose's dick during the ending.

>>84375351
I guess? There's a lot of reasons to like Roxy outside of just everyone else just being shit. The most important one being she's rather funny and has a distinct way of speaking which helps reinforce that, just like Dave. Her getting over her alcohol issues is the big issues a lot of people have with her, which is understandable. Hussie introduced two main characters with issues relating to alcohol abuse and yet he doesn't seem to know how or what to write to show/develop it in a meaningful manner, it's pretty fucking weird when you think about it.

Literally the only people who did something in the end were Vriska, Roxy, and John.

>>84375441
you must be aware that the troll revival stuff is an absurdly long job that happens well after the ending right

>>84372970
I agree with him, fuck nepotism

>>84375404
He's kind of hilarious, in a cringe/manner of speech way. Sort of like Mituna and Caliborn, who also qualify for >>84375351 (Caliborn for a certain definition of "improve").

>>84375384
RTFC, anon.

>>84375486
That is literally no excuse for not even hinting at their starting to try to bring back the Troll race, especially with how short a lifespan Karkat has.

>>84375483
A reminder that Jasprosesprite^2 did more than Kanaya did during the final battle.

Actually, was anyone else here bothered by Dave and Dirk not flash stepping during the final battle? It just feels like Hussie is implying that they got slower somehow?

>>84375602
They got fat like everyone else during Vriskagram I guess.

>>84375521
no one knows karkats lifespan. hes a mutant

>>84375602
See, I wouldn't mind it if it was just Dirk and Dave vs the Jacks and their lack of visible flash stepping was indicative of the Jacks both being fast and able combatants, but also an allusion to their capacity to deal with time-power based enemies. But Terezi is there, so yeah it's pretty fucking jarring.

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>>84375486
He could have thrown us a fucking bone like Kanaya going back to the pit inside the meteor and showing us a panel of her hatching the egg or something, jesus

Given he comments on his blood being "so low it's not even on the spectrum" or something similar, it's reasonable to say it's going to be equal or less than rustbloods so they don't live long at all.

>>84375658
I always figured he'd be human-lived what with the red blood

Dude is gonna be dead soon, good job Hussler

Meant >>84375719
for >>84375658

So what was better?
Homestuck's ending, or Mass Effect 3's ending"s"

>>84375658
right after the picnic in act 7 he had a biscuit stoppage and died

>>84375763
JADE: hehehe i knew adding extra mayo and butter to those sandwiches was a good idea!!!

>>84375602
Hissie didn't even animate Collide if I recall.

>>84376081
Who did?
I mean it wouldn't even shock me, what with most of late Homestuck being guest drawn and ghost written anyway.

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no...get away from me

>>84376004
dying with a BLT crammed in your mouth isn't a bad way to go

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How do we save Joey?

>>84376305
What will Hiveswap be on? Will it be a Steam game?

>>84376341
>going through steam
more stuff to take care of, more potential delays

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>>84376341
It'll be a steaming hunk of shit

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For anyone that still plays TF2, I was able to track down one of the old Homestuck maps that appear to have went missing and threw them up to download.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721145233

>>84376341
We don't even know that lmao

>>84376392
I think it might open up the audience a bit more though. I dunno', I guess I just want to see it come out.
>>84376487
:|

>>84376572
Lesbian fecal matter bathing ritual.

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Daily reminder

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>>84376630

>>84372795
this is some kind of shit from an alternate universe 4chan isn't it

>>84376656
Gay.

>>84372546
but what are their classes

If Tavros could convince millions of trolls to take on LE then why didn't he have a gentleman's talk with him to stop him from killing everything?

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>>84376704
nothing gay about it

>>84376720
hussie lied, vriska was the most important character in homestuck all along

what if vriska was part of lord english instead of equius/gamzee

>>84376341
It'll be on Steam or it will die.
I trust them to not fuck up this incredibly basic thing.

>>84376761
thiccc

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I can't believe it....

Vriska is a big fucking weenie...

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rip spades slick

>>84376761
Seems pretty gay.

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Kill three
One survives

Choose wisely.

>>84376850
eri livves

>>84376850
karkat
gamzee
eri

vriska becomes my sex slut

>>84376850
karkat lives
what a dumb fucking question h was the first of them all and we didn't need 12 goddamn trolls. maybe then he would have some character development

>>84376850
It's a trick question, the clown can't die.

WHERE IS SOLLUX

>>84376643
Matt pat gave the pope the game though. And he didn't even play it.

>>84376917
>Im leddit because I don't want the character with most words spoken to be a useless joke

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>>84376932

>>84376932
he left mspa
probably shacked up somewhere in the abandoned geocities

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>>84376972
>vriscunt fanchild

You know, it's still fucking delicious that Undertale became such a massive fucking success, like, I don't think Hussie's fall into ruin would have been nearly as delicious to see if that hadn't been the executioner's cherry on top of his miserable shit sundae of a failed life

>>84376991
>Still talking about Undertale here.
Fuck off already.

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>>84376850

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>>84377007
>That filename

>>84377015
And asshurt from nerdlords like you who are incapable of separating discussion from personal hatreds is also pretty tasty

>>84377039
What? This "hussie is lol pathetic undertale is super succccccesfuefeahfdhdel" meme is getting annoying.

>>84377078
But it's true

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>>84376991
i understand that people think hussie is miserable because of all of his failed projects...

but the recent con showed that there are still large amounts of "people" who want to suck hussie's cock and worship him

and really that's all life is about, is it not?

>>84377078
If you say so. I'm not really done shitting on Hussie yet while he still keeps digging his grave. I bring it up because all he has left is Hiveswap, and that's quickly becoming vaporware. So it's hilarious that Undertale happened, because it acts like nitro fuel for how much of a fucking wreck he's turned into.

>>84377109
Still.
>>84377122
It's kind of making me sad too. ;(

>>84377078
>>84377015
Homestuck turned to shit and deserves all the mocking, Undertale was a solid experience from start to finish. It being 'le meme tumblr game' doesn't change anything, especially since Homestuck used to be the top king of cancer in the past. You really think it's better?

>>84377148
>It's kind of making me sad too. ;(

I'd be sad, but Hussie's arrogance was pretty disgusting. He earned it. If he hadn't been such a complete douchewad about it, I'd have had a lot more sadness and sympathy.

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reminder
https://twitter.com/heyitsthatnerd/status/749725344916131841

>>84376850
Eridan has been through enough

>>84377203
>that voice
when i saw him in 2013 you could tell he still cared about his work, there wasn't that resigned "yes, whatever, this is my life now" tone to his voice
what happened?

>>84377280
he has become THE frogposter

TF2stuck

Soldier: Vriska
Demoman: Vriska
Scout: Vriska
Medic: Vriska

who has more children, jade in the new universe or grandpa jake in A1

>2016
>still playing tf2
lol

>>84377403
Vriska: Vriska

>>84377115
> that's all life is about, is it not?
If youre a weenie yes.

>>84377475
Is there any other game where you pay REAL MONEY for virtual hats? Haha, didn't think so.

>>84377462
realistically even with a dogs womb jade can only produce six or so puppies every 9 months, whereas there is no upper limit to the number of women a handsome and enterprising young man can inseminate.

What happens when Jade runs out of eggs and can't have any more puppies? Will she go grimbark again?

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>no fic where jade helps jake unlock his true potential... as a breeding master

>>84377714
how cute!

>>84376850
Karkat is the only one of the 4 to be actually funny.

>>84377115
There'll always be pathetic fans to lick up Hussie's vomit, but I'm pretty sure 90% of his former readers have either forgotten about him or started hating him.

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>>84377754
Actually yeah it IS cute to me :(

>>84377665
There unironically are tons of other games that do that.

>>84377714
>nuclear
this is counterintuitive considering toby fox causes sterility and all

>>84377771
i bet she would try to be bossy and mean while shes raping them! it would be so adorable to watch

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>>84377873
Anon if you're trying to trick me into throat-biting violent rapist Jade knocking girls up then I'm already well into that magical realm with you

>>84377903
i just like talking dirty on 4chan anon

>>84377280
HUSSIE SUICIDE W H E N

>>84377203
What is he even saying?
Max is Jake english?
What?

>>84378046
hopefully soon, for his sake

>>84377839
In comics and cartoons it gives you superpowers, and hyperfertility.

>>84378143
youd think it would be difficult for sperm to break into jades crackling god eggs though

>>84378232
Dave's just got to microwave his balls for a bit.

>>84378232
fortunately theyre sperm^2

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>>84378371
>no art of Davepeta and Jasperose doubleteaming Rose with their horrifying mutant barbed dicks

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>>84378665
whatever problems you may have with davepeta, we all have him to thank for teaching rose's ultimate self that incest is fine

>>84378858
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy5fKp-aV4o
R.I.P in piece.

>>84378358
Katawa Shoujo Homestuck

>>84378858
I really wanted to see more of nepeta or at least have her interact with other characters. She only got to ask how people were doing.

>>84378858
dem legs tho

>>84378858
davepeta's soft, soft boygirlbutt

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>>84379416
>tfw when you will never be dommed by Terezi

>>84379466
>tfw you will never get in a threesome with terezi and nepeta

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>>84379156
All she ever had to be was a cute, positive minded cat troll who tried to make the other trolls feel better, only to die tragically to the clown and make the survivors feel worse. It was the simple to give one of those 12 characters a supporting role and it didn't happen, fucking disappointing.

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>>84379416
>>84379508
Yes more felicia and nepeta.

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>>84379416
>>84379508

I'm going to make a parody fantroll based on the misinformation debunking communities

I'll call her Snopez Nohoax

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>>84379636
B100 board.

>>84379663
>posting meme artist

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>>84379636
Okay. Have something a little different.

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>>84379816
>meme artist
Elaborate please. I've only seen this dude's terezi/nepeta art. He does a really shitty Karkat
>>84379636

I wonder if Hussie set up so much shit that he never elaborated on in the comic so Paradox Space would have a lot of premises to work with?

But I guess DUDE METEOR LMAO was more important.

Homestuck characters who unironically wear edgy black skull shirts:

>>84380133
the chuunibyou of homestuck

>>84380133
eri (it symbolizes his hate for this wworthless wworld)
Jake (thinks skulls are rad!)
maybe Vriska (it's a pir8 thing and badass, until she sees Jake wearing it and starts saying it's for lame weenies)
maybe Aradia (it's a memento mori and she think it looks cute 0u0)

>>84380133
Rose, duh

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>>84380133
Caliborn.

Cool, Toby just donated to SGDQ

I wonder if Hussie will (he won't)

I can't believe Karkat hanged himself...

I can't believe Toby hanged Hussie!

>>84380308
what, during FF6?

>>84380365
Imagine if Hussie actually killed himself

you know what's really hot

older nepeta with either curves or tone, being a mischievous, predatory huntress

now that's how her character should have developed

>>84380387
Yeah

>>84380458
feferi go back to bed and being DAOOTS you're not fooling anyone

In the new universe, all gays and trannies are banned and exiled to alternia.

>>84380641
neo alternia*

>>84380412
oh fuck him, he donated for demon chocobo

>>84380308
I guess he has to do something with his multiple millions.

How did a bunch of literally who musicians in their 20s create an OST as great as Homestuck's?

>>84381208
is it great though, or is it just different from the safe, ambient soundtracks in modern games

>>84381303
yes, it is great

>>84380458
Where did your bangs go?

>>84381303
Homestuck's music legitimately has some of my favorite tunes.

>>84381570
well it is a massive collection but there is also a lot of variance in quality

>>84381208
because a bunch of already pretty skillful musicians who were hungry to succeed and stand out all competed against each other to make better and better stuff and only the stuff andrew liked most actually made it into the comic

>>84381617
I don't think there's a single bad song though.

I used to like most of toby fox's homestuck songs but now I'm so sick of that overdriven guitar soundfont

>>84376663
this copypasta makes me laugh every time

>>84381757
Davesprite is still the best one.

>>84381749
what about "Volume 9 - I'm a Member of the Midnight Crew (Post-Punk Version)"

>>84381878
Has Bowman. Disqualified.

>>84381208
Why do people think you need years of practise in a matter when literal 15 yo hack the pentagon and don't get caught? Only your IQ, mental illness and lazyness prevents you from being skilled.

>>84376404
Dope.

>>84381757
i hated it the second i heard it and yet he has somehow tricked me into liking it

what's the best non volume 10 homestuck album and why is it volume 6?

>>84382185
Liked this one, source?

>>84382242
because of MeGaLoVania brah

>>84382278
not sure anymore. I was gonna look in history to the page I found it but its all deleted.

>>84382242
cherubim. there isnt one bad song on there

>>84382185
>>84382166
Um I don't think these are very funny.
It's COMPL------ET-ELY out of character, please delete these.

>>84382359
I see you skip all of the odd-numbered songs, except the last one, just like me.

>>84382399
the calliope songs are excellent too, though. especially reverie and the lyrist. sharing themes with the caliborn ones works really well.

>>84377724
Do you really only produce so many eggs?

>>84382512
Jade's proximity to a life player means they just keep coming back

>>84381959
15 year olds generally aren't skilled at anything.

>>84382459
She is pretty bratty.

>>84382512
yes, women are born with all of the eggs they will ever produce, and they degrade in quality as the woman ages
This is why eggs are much more valuable than sperm. You can actually receive compensation for donating eggs.

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>>84382512
Hence why grandpa wins. Even into his 80s he was still fathering bastards.

Probably explains WHY she's such a breedslut, Grandpa influenced her worldview at a young age.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007516
huh i didnt realise just how overtly andrew tells us the kids goal is to win the game and not fight english. i thought he just hinted at it and thats why everyone got such blue balls but nope calliope was pretty straight forward.

>>84382534
If you cant do any creative shit at 15 years, even if its just a comic strip you did as a kid, be ready to work at mcdonalds or some low-quality job. Or kick a ball if you think money is important.

>>84382589
Don't older people tend to produce kids with mental issues?
Joey's probably retarded.

>>84382636
>Joey's probably retarded.
I mean, that's not that surprising.

>>84382636
shes jakes biological daughter of course shes retarded

>>84382636
>Joey's probably retarded.
Her dad is Jake. No shit.

>>84382601
The comic said a lot of things that could be used to retroactively justify any outcome. Not fighting English would have been fine, if the other things that Calliope says about him were just as true.
>he has always exerted his inflUence on yoUr realities from afar, and from many different angles.
>he prevails throUgh the simple inertia of inevitability that has always been on his side, as a lord of time
But we are given the impression that English doesn't really manipulate things, that he prefers to engage in direct combat, and that inevitability isn't really on his side. This dissonance wasn't adequately addressed, so it was a bit jarring.

>>84382680
>>84382676
>>84382655
So the real question: Will Jade and John's kids be retarded?

>>84382775
Yes, if they have them together. No otherwise.

>>84382775
No. Jane's genes, and then Dave and a Lalonde genes, filter the sheer retardation out enough. Jade's kids still run into walls and bark at things, but that's the dog part, it'll pass.

>>84382718
scratch, gamzee and condy are all his direct agents and between them are responsible for basically everything that happens in homestuck. that seems like enough to fit her description of his style of control

>>84382775
>>84382791
I don't know where y'all get the idea that Jade is retarded
and John isn't really dumb he's just a sperglord

>>84382829
>I don't know where y'all get the idea that Jade is retarded

She's a furry.

>>84382829
Didn't say they were retarded. I'd said the only thing that'd make their kids retarded was inbreeding between them.

>>84382829
just LOOK at her

>>84382829
honestly jake isnt actually retarded either. but if john is a sperglord jake is the fuckin spergemperor.

>>84382829
Jake's retard genes could be recessive

>>84382820
But he's not doing anything. These people just showed up and started doing things on his behalf without him even interacting with them. It's doubtful whether he even ever spoke to Doc Scratch.

He's not a mastermind, he's just a beneficiary.

>>84381518
not a huge fan of this ship but cute pic.

>>84382877
>spoke to Doc Scratch
he is doc scratch, he doesnt need to speak to himself. they arent really seperate beings, just one dude but with some very significant aspects of his personality suppressed. and we're told condy is receiving direct instructions from him on a number of occasions.

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>>84382892
but arafef is cute
CUTE

>>84382888
I like that Hussie basically created the same character three times.

And also Feferi.

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>>84379636
tru
Karezi was best karkat ship
if i HAD to pick a gay ship for karkat, it wouldn't even be davekat. johnkat tbqh

>>84382951
>and we're told condy is receiving direct instructions from him on a number of occasions.
>we never got to see this for ourselves
Throw Hussie over a bridge

Calliope is like a fanfic author who self-inserted into a story that she doesn't actually understand, and the complex themes went over her head completely, and she saves the day in a really trite, generic way that contradicts the moral ambiguity that came before it.

>>84382962
so much fluffy hair to nuzzle into...
cute af

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>>84383055
This is nicely put, anon. I couldn't have said it better myself.

>>84383055
That seemed almost intentional.

>>84383175
hussie is either a meta genius or a retard and we will never know for sure

>>84383188
why not both
it's funny how masterfully he can do shit like that, but can't do anything even the most basic ficwriters can pull off.

>>84383055
yeah and lord english is caliborns grimdark shadow the hedgehog oc who is an invincible badass and was behind everything all along. even though the character was clearly written by an imbecile. and all of his 'plans' and 'machinations' basically came down to a long string of coincidences.

>>84382888
why is meenah skinnier than fef

>>84383188
>>84383242
It's both and the meta elements killed Homestuck.

>>84383274
"Is it a good idea to make your ending shitty on purpose as a commentary on shitty authors? The answer may surprise you."

>>84381940
what did he mean by this?

>>84383055
>>84383159
>>84383175
>>84383250
So what you're saying here is that the ending we got wasn't Caliborn's masterpiece... but Calliope's.

>>84383242
hes a total idiot savant. all of he worst parts of homestuck are the parts literally anyone on ao3 could pull off. and yet theres stuff in this comic that hardly one or two writers alive could manage to make work and hussie does without breaking a sweat.

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>>84383318
Bowman is top-tier.

>>84383352
If that were the case and Homestuck is actually the story of a nightmare universe where everything the occurs is the childish whim of three petty author-gods, then I might be able to muster up some begrudging respect for the man.

But I have a feeling that he unironically intended for Calliope to represent goodness in art and literature.

>>84383425
its pretty clear that hussie is the gnostic god of homestuck with calliope as sophia and caliborn as the demiurge. that means yeah the ending is supposed to be 'calliopes'.

btw vriska = jesus in this scenario

i don't get how anyone defends that gnostic bullshit, characters should act on their own motivations, but instead they're all shafted into mythological roles that he read about on wikipedia

>>84383541
but joey is the second coming of jesus...not vriska

>>84383541
I never felt like Hussie was the kind of guy to go for direct symbolism though. I think it's more likely that he unconsciously picked up these themes from other stories and they made their way into his work without him realizing it.

>>84383598
Yeah. If you rely on symbolism to that extent, you're just ripping off someone else's story and changing the names around.

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>>84383610
I don't know, there's definitely some 'relatively' heavy-handed nods and references peppered throughout the body of Homestuck as a story. Like Dirk and all them Plato potatoes.

>>84383598
Well, Classpects can be reversed and they can also have both positive and negative paths, and they can also fail to fulfill their role so the characters aren't always 100% set.

>>84383610
its pretty direct. someone was talking about sophia in gnosticism in these threads so i googled her and read the first couple results and immediately felt like i understood the ending better than i had after reading any number of theories

>>84383606
vriska stole her destiny, just like shes going to steal her spot as protagonist of hiveswap!

>>84383713
i can't tell you to fuck off hard enough
classpects are 1000% bullshit and always have been

>>84383771
i doubt you are in the majority with that view

>>84383771
What?

>>84383789
I agree with him but you're probably right in that the majority of homestuck readers don't want to think critically about whether the classpect system is an accurate model for predicting character behavior or not

>sadistic noble equius who keeps psycho straitjacket nepeta collared at all times
this au is going to be gold
>equius a noble weakling and eridan literally a musclefuck
but i want nepeta to be some mary sue psycho huntress who can hunt while blinded (maybe some metal thing locked onto her head so she couldn't just.... pull a blindfold off) and in a straitjacket

how make it easy for weaquius to capture nepeta on will without being bullshit

has anyone actually done a somewhat thorough analysis of homestuck through the lens of gnosticism so that I can read it, or is the whole theory just based on a loose collection of forum and blog posts that only point out one similarity each

>>84383907
tranquilizers

>>84383907
Just do the reverse of their relationship in the comic, have him act as the welcomed calming influence and have her act as the more seemingly in-control of the two, despite being emotionally subservient. There's benefits for a situation like that for a crazy hunter Nep, in that the calmness he brings allows her to gather her thoughts more clearly whilst Equius gets a crazy powerful tool he can try to exploit given he himself is relatively weak.

>New Hiveswap backer reward revealed: You will be flown to the home of Andrew Hussie himself, form an orderly line, and get to punch him in the face, once, as hard as you can, each!

>>84383871
It usually is.

>>84383907
aradia in yours is what
red feferi
red meenah
deader aradia

>>84384104
>not a chance to fuck a jade cosplayer

>>84384130
no anon dont!
the monkey paw!
it'll just be ipiggy...