/hyw/ How's You're Webcomic #293: tallentless hack edition

>5 minutes after OP goes up
>no second post with all the links and info
"tallentless" is right

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>>84347888
Jeez, OP
Scrub Authors' GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
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>Invisible Ink:
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>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
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>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
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>Guide to promoting your comic:
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I was hoping for a buffer before i post my substandard cringe inducing shit that wouldn't have been acceptable for a webcomic in the early 2000's let alone today

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>>84347995
I was meaning to make it in black and white and only realized after i colored it

now i think daytime scenes will be colour, black and white for night (90% of the story is at night)

>>84347995
>>84348003

>3300x5100
Scale it down by at least half for online display.

Make the title brighter so it draws the eye better.

Did you trace the house or did you try to construct a perspective?

Why is the house the brightest thing in the scene?

Why is the underside of the porch roof brighter than the top?

Why are the windows blue in the middle of the night? There's no blue sky to reflect. If the lights were on, they'd look pale yellow to someone standing outside, and if they were off, the interior of the house would be pitch black.

Just stay away from colors entirely. Working in a three-dimensional color space is an added complication that you as a beginner really don't need. At most, make day scenes faintly yellow and night scenes faintly blue.

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>>84347888
Might as well repost this, since the old thread died.

Hopefully I can finish the roughs today.

>>84348127
1000 pixels max for the width IMO.

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>>84348127
Thank you for the advice
>Scale it down by at least half for online display.
I'm working big, still working out the software, shrinking it seems to make the file larger wtf?
>Make the title brighter so it draws the eye better.
that's so beyond not being the title text, it's just really to show where i'm going to put it
>Did you trace the house or did you try to construct a perspective?
trace, i'm going to use a lot of tracing more to get the perspective and proportions right on things
>Why is the house the brightest thing in the scene?
it's the only thing in the scene, but i was trying to tone down the colors, didn't work though
>Why is the underside of the porch roof brighter than the top?
because it's traced from a daytime picture and i'm a moron because that's stupidly obviously wrong now that you point it out
>Why are the windows blue in the middle of the night? There's no blue sky to reflect. If the lights were on, they'd look pale yellow to someone standing outside, and if they were off, the interior of the house would be pitch black.
I was trying to show that the window was open, something awful is about to happen in that house
>Just stay away from colors entirely. Working in a three-dimensional color space is an added complication that you as a beginner really don't need. At most, make day scenes faintly yellow and night scenes faintly blue.
I think i will stay away from colours, if i was actually capable i'm make the whole thing just black and white but that's actually really hard to do effectively, so i'll stick to grey-scale, maybe add some colours for emphasis, like red for blood, yellow for police badges, some red and blue lights for police cars, but 95% greyscale

GOOD MORNING /HYW/! I LOVE YOU!

>>84347888
>How's You're Webcomic

WHO DID THIS

REVeAL YOURSELF

>>84348291
me
>>84348217
>>84348003
>>84347995

>>84347888
>you're
>tallentless
>Make every character bisexual for attention!
>Give up and just draw porn for patreon money!
>didn't make second post

>still created a thread when no one else would

This "delete this" guys is the best troll we could ever have

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Right, so there's a common problem where fans will latch on to the villain, often trying to excuse their behavior no matter how evil or monstrous.

I hate the idea of this happening to my villain, because she's an old school pirate(pillage, plunder, murder, rape, etc), and thus evil to the core. The only thing I've managed to come up with is to make her intentionally annoying, but even then it seems like people will just find her goofy personality more funny than disturbing.

How does one avoid putting Draco in leather pants?

>>84348429
I hate you so goddamn much.

>>84348506
Make her an ugly male. I'm serious. As long as she's female on any level of attractiveness higher than Jabba the Hutt, someone will like her.

>>84348506
At first, make her second in command to a sane, pragmatic pirate. Someone who accepts surrender, takes prisoners, ransoms them back or sells them into slavery. Put her in a boarding party, mutiny/commandeer the second ship, and kick off her newfound captain status with an indiscriminate massacre. Maybe she kills a navigator willing to collaborate, a valuable hostage, or other people she should really not have killed. Establish that her impulsiveness isn't just run of the mill evil; it's bad pirating and she does it because something's fucking wrong with her.

I was actually writing a somewhat similar story back when I wanted to write a scifi. Ended up ditching it because the research was too daunting.

>>84348579
You do realize where the term "Draco in leather pants" comes from, right? Making her a dude ain't gonna do a damn thing. And as for the ugly part, need I remind you of all the Joker fans?

>>84348506
be grateful that people like your characters that much?

you can't control what your fans do. just do what you think is best

>>84347888
Nice Dewd impression, Dewd

>>84348506
Make sure the audience knows her as a monster before they know anything else about her. First impressions count for a lot.
Also, make her ugly and dull-looking. People will always like characters that are cool or cute or pretty.

I have to say, though, I don't think it's actually possible to do what you want to do. People latch on to unrepentant real life serial killers and dictators all the time.

>>84348506
>her
there's your problem
even if you make her disgusting and fat, someone will have a fetish for her or think she's empowering

>>84348610
Neither of them are ugly, especially not Draco. You may argue about Joker but I still think he usually looks normal, just with a paint on his face. You want your villain to be cruel, unpredictable, creepy but not funny. To add to the effect, give him a potato face with warts or other some skin condition. If justifiable (probably not with a pirate), make him obese too. Low body hygiene. Make him repulsive.

>>84348592
>>84348658
I like the first impressions idea. And it won't be too hard since she really is a monster.

But you may be right int that it's unavoidable. Someone will waifu her, so I guess I should just focus on making her an effective villain above all else.

>>84348579
And even then the "high test" posters will be all over her.

>>84348725
The problem with villains is that any villain that's supposed to be a legitimate threat has to have a lot of good qualities, except turned to a monstrous purpose.
Strength of will, courage, cunning, determination, a commanding presence, a drive to see their dreams made real.
The halo effect of any entertaining or interesting villain will easily make people overlook their moral flaws. That's just how people work.

>>84348951
It's not hard to think of counterexamples of villains empowered by circumstance (think of your average rich twit stereotype) or whose wanton cruelty is more handicap than asset. Not every villain has to succeed on their own merits, or at all.

>>84348951
This guy is right.

The goal is to make the reader want to see the hero beat the villain. That doesn't mean you have to make the villain totally unlikable.

My story revolves around a character we'll call Oko, of the 3 main protagonists, her perspective will be the greater focus of the project.

Shes an esper, so the rule is that everything on the panel, she sees (such as thought bubbles). She'll also represent the reader, as in she'll learn at the same pace about the world as the reader will.

Her story is that she's been growing up with these powers that have been more of a curse to her than the gift she believed they would be. After being driven out and subsequently being put in the care of a distant relative, she is striving to find her place where she can do the good for the world like she knows she's ment to do.

Fast forward 2 years and Oko is being detained by an off-the-books UN organization known as AEON (a successor to the WW2 American OSS) after inadvertently using her powers unfavorably to the UN. The first few chapters will be Oko's recounting of the events that lead to her detainment and interview by AEON as to what her punishment will be.

>>84348981
They don't have to have all of those things, but a rich twit still has the confidence and will to be an asshole with his power, at least superficially.

Are we pitching ideas?

OK, so an upper class, privileged gay guy at his first job as a journalist is meant to write a hit piece series on a white nationalist who runs a gang of white supremacists. But as he is prying into the guy's life he accidentally gets befriended by them and as he gets closer he finds himself falling for the strong, muscular guy instead. meanwhile racial tensions are running high and gay people in particular are being targeted allegedly by white nationalists, but out protagonist uncovers that there is a lot more to the white nationalists than he first thought, that they are all real people, and that the stories being reported in the mainstream news have almost no bearing on reality.

As the violence on the streets worsens, can our protagonist survive falling in love with a violent neonazi thug?

>>84349271
ok /pol/ have fun with your fringe audience and underground success, hope you can draw

>>84349197
You can split hairs until any action taken is motivated by "will" that is somehow nebulously admirable. Your ability to argue that doesn't really mean rich twits are remotely admired in practice though.

A villain plain doesn't have to have any admirable qualities. A villain can be a needy stalker whose cop dad looks the other way (or whatever), and for most people this will be enough to make the guy repulsive.

>>84348506
>she's an old school pirate thus evil to the core

This doesn't compute.

>>84349294
The main nazi guy will literally go off on WORDS WORDS WORDS insane rants about the jew elites, indians shitting on the streets, the insanity of transgenderism, niggers ect ect ect. his rants are in the background as the character's thought bubbles go on top of his bullshit rants.

>>84349271
Sounds like that movie where Frodo played a young journalist infiltrating British hooligans, except with a slightly changed theme.

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>>84349372
i have never heard of that in my life

>>84349300
>You can split hairs until any action taken is motivated by "will" that is somehow nebulously admirable.
I don't think it's splitting hairs to say that any character given agency is going to have people like them. People really like proactive characters, and villains tend to be really proactive.

>>84349302
Nah, fuck that "dashing rogue rebelling against THE MAN" shit. The romanticizing of pirates is hideously obnoxious, and willfully ignores that these "people" are marauding scumbags. Pirates are evil and they can all eat a fat dick.

>>84349466
I think it's a semantic argument for sure. In practice, barring crazy deviantartist fans, there are plenty of just plain repulsive characters.

>>84349487
t. british merchant

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I think I'm finally done with this page, for now at least.

>>84349565
>barring crazy deviantartist fans
I guess we've been talking at cross purposes - I thought those were exactly the kind of fans we were discussing. Yeah, you can definitely make a character that the vast majority of your readers will hate or pity while still having them be a good antagonist.

>>84349660
Yeah, trying to preempt the really crazy people who read your story just seems pointless to me. I usually try to write to... not the center because my thing's kind of niche, but to a reader who's at least somewhat like me.

>>84349466
>People really like proactive characters, and villains tend to be really proactive.
So, in theory, would having the protagonist be proactive, and the villain be threatening in a passive manner reverse the Draco effect?

>>84349487
You know who else were marauding scumbags? The navies that fought against the pirates. Shit, the buccaneers were out for totally justified revenge for what the Spanish did to them.

>>84349718
Not entirely, but having a proactive protagonist is always a good idea so you should definitely do that.
Watch out for having a passive villain though.
It very easily turns into a boring conflict, which is probably the one thing everybody can agree to hate.

>>84349718
The argument was built to basically apply to all characters. Greedo might run into Han by accident, but he deliberately tries to shoot him. This makes Greedo adimirable. Such willpower.

I wouldn't worry too much about the slim percentage of people who will idolize Greedo.

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>>84349796
>Not entirely, but having a proactive protagonist is always a good idea so you should definitely do that.
I think the reason proactive heroes aren't that common is because aggressive action is seen as unsavory? So if you go and jump the villain at their house, that makes you the asshole or something.


>>84349805
>Greedo fans
>mfw I realize such a thing must exist

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>>84347888
>Give up and just draw porn for patreon money.
This is a lovely idea. I need more practice first.


Working on next months update. I've really stepped away from the brush, but I'm going to spend all my cash on fucking microns.

I can't decide how to texture the scales on this thing, SoI am going to work on another panel for a while.

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How about some WIPs for a change?

>>84349955
Aggressive proaction, sure. If you storm the villain's lair after he's done something to warrant it, like trying to blow up the president's dog, that's fine, but if he hasn't done anything yet, you're just being a dick for no reason.
Having the hero still be a good guy while trying to change the status quo is just plain a harder conflict to write than one where he defends the status quo, so it's not as common.

Of course I might be discussing things in too binary terms - having the hero learn of the villain's plot in advance and work to stop it isn't entirely proactive, but it's much more proactive than having him just happen to be at the right place at the right time.

>>84348506
Accept that it will happen and don't change the character. You cannot dictate how people read your comic. What you can do is focus on your comic and portraying the character as you envisioned.

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>>84350470

>>84350457
>tfw artistically at a level where I could make decent money , but I just can't into drawing porn because it doesn't interest me at all

Goddamn lucky furfag bastards, getting to do something they love and being paid money for it like it's an actual job. Bah humbug.

>>84350482
Situations of "official" conflict can help with this.
Procativity in war or cold war against the enimies of your nation is okay. So like you can kick the Red Skull or The Red Ghost's shit in and nobody is going to Squawk.
Terrorist groups like HYDRA work too.
There is actually a great FF story (84-87) where SHIELD sends the FF to Doom's country to fuck with him just because he might be up to something.

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>>84350539

>>84350528
THIS THIS THIS

The worst thing is seeing an author get mad when people interpret his creation in any way other than what he intended. Not recognizing that every person thinks differently is a sign of autism.

Don't be autistic.

>>84350591
Yeah, I was just kidding it doesn't interest me either.
Further, from what I 've seen, you can make a living with a fairly low level of skill, too.

>>84349955
>I think the reason proactive heroes aren't that common is because aggressive action is seen as unsavory?

I think this conclusion just comes from thinking about your story in abstract and genericized forms. If your story is just a straightforward fight between a good guy and a bad guy, just showing up at some guy's house and shooting him isn't going to leave much room for sympathy. If your hero wants to find the lost city of Id, they can be pretty proactive and still sympathetic.

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>>84350643

>>84350746
Gotta hate when coke gets stuck in the intersection of your philtrum and your nose. Doesn't look like she minds.

Good stuff.

>>84350591
I know that feel.

>>84349955
>I think the reason proactive heroes aren't that common is because aggressive action is seen as unsavory
That's not an answer, because it doesn't explain why it's seen as unsavory. It's simply fear of radicalism, fear of real change. It's a common setup: heroes preserve, villains destroy or alter. Everyone gets caught in this superficial effort to stop the villain and forgets to inspect what exactly is being fought over.

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my webcomic is doing really well IMO. Ironically I gave up drawing porn for patreon money to work security and focus on my passion project, a realistic diverse contemporary cinematic drama about the intersection of politics and emotions

here, I'll be a total slut and post the newest chapter some of which hasnt gone up anywhere else

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>>84349039
>The goal is to make the reader want to see the hero beat the villain.
What kind of a goal is that? Be more ambitious.

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>>84351511

I have an idea that I'm still trying to flesh out. Any opinion is appreciated.


>Fantasy setting
>Most of the world has the technology of the middle ages
>All except for a group of people called the Unbidden who have advanced technologies.
>For the last 300 years no one has had contact with the Unbidden who have remained within the high walls of their city which no one has gone into and no one has come out of
>MC is a princess of a nation called Estrella
>Suddenly, on her 21st birthday, The Unbidden emerge from their isolation and begin to attack Estrella.
>The MC manages to escape with the help of her faithful bodyguard, but not before Estrella is conquered with ease.
>Now the MC with the help of her bodyguard must find out the mystery of the Unbidden and their reason for their sudden aggression

>>84351433
this is a blue board, tasteful nudity is still bannable. i like the picture though
i suppose my main question is... does anything actually happen? i'm assuming it focuses heavily on character interaction, which is fine, but if someone asked you to describe the plot of it, would you be able to?
visually i really like the colours, also the person with the purple hair is qt. if i had one complaint, it'd be that >>84351511 and >>84351517 doesn't read very well

>>84351664
This is about 50 pages in. This is a comic for people who hate comics in the vein of my hero felipe smith. I see film as a superior form of storytelling and so i emulate it without handholding or over-explaining what's happening, because I have faith that adults are smart enough to parse the meaning of pictures which aren't really all that abstract. I like to think that I treat my minuscule audience like adults

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Here are the first six instalments of my stupid, ugly comic "Space Cunts"

>>84351752
Doing a comic when you prefer film seems contradictory.

good cape man vs. evil goatee man: who will save girl woman? who will get smashed with fists? good cape man is now a black woman, because writing interesting POC characters from scratch is too hard! HULK SMAAASH

I'm having a hard time making villains that are realistically beatable, and others I don't really want to get killed.

>>84351752
Ah, you're one of those.

>>84351808
It's a lot cheaper and easier to produce than a film, though. It makes sense.

>>84351823
Do you want your villains to lose or not?

>>84351856
i think goal wise, not combat

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well anyway here are some comics. No super heroes or villains, just people
>medicineofficial.tumblr.com

>>84351826
Hahaha. I don't know whether this is intentionally stupid and shitty or not, but it made me laugh.

>>84351433
i have no idea whats going on...
very good art tho.

>>84351883
This is my favorite.

>>84351962
Read more comics.

>>84351910
>>84351896
>>84351883
>>84351826
>>84351815
>>84351805
yo this is actually fucking great

>>84351752
As someone using a similar format and cinematic traditions, I've got to say that it's still crucial to understand both composition for static images and storytelling technique geared towards comics in particular.

"I'd rather do a film" isn't really a valid response to "this isn't working as a comic."

"I trust the reader to figure out" isn't really a valid response when what was meant to be transparent has been rendered opaque by your handling of the subject.

Mind you, I'm not that guy and not really sure what they felt they were missing. I'm more of the mind that page 7 was totally superfluous and might be better handled as a single panel replacing panel 1 of page 8.

>>84351752
that's a cool idea, i haven't read a comic that does that on purpose before. i would say that something not reading/flowing well is a problem that occurs in film too, so watch out for that. with what you've described, i'd say it's ok if a few people don't know what's happening, but if you're seeing a lot of people like >>84351930 then you might want to reassess what "hand holding" actually is

also your comic still needs a plot, however abstract but i'm sure you already know that

>>84348506
Have her kill someone the audience likes. If she's greedy, violent, murderous, and classic evil pirate you've got a lot you can work with. Don't give her anything that makes her sympathetic, make her a demon in human skin.

People may still excuse her, people still excuse Aileen Wuornos. It doesn't matter, you can't control your audience, the best you can do is tell a good story.

Kill women and children, and if she is sexualized have it be grotesque. Have her be a terrible personification of some abusive sick anti-love that is numb to all but hedonism and those who cannot keep up will be dragged kicking and screaming. If she is not "traditionally" attractive, all the better. It adds to the removal of her from what is woman and what is human.

She's a pirate, and assuming a historical setting, you could get her involved in scalping, white slavery, heresy, church burnings, ling-chi, getting people drawn and quartered, or selling out people she disliked to the Navy just so she can watch them be strung up and pecked apart by crows.

If she's your bad guy, make her horrific. She should be like classic Jason Voorhees. When he shows up, something wretched is about to happen and we spend our time fearing his arrival rather than in later installments where we just want to see how over the top the kill will be.

>>84351913
A couple pages down from this, you have "if it was it was the right person."

Also, your college professor seems written weakly. Most actual lectures see professors trying to walk students through a line of argument, attributing each idea or system of thought to its source, not flatly making factual statements and occasionally namedropping an authority as if they were presenting a singular factual view of the world backed up by a bunch of people who agree with each other. Would it have been hard to look up some actual lectures on youtube and crib from them?

The student finding flaws in an argument that don't engage with or understand the premise is fine, as is the "take it as fact / will this be on the test?" apathy of most of the class.

>>84352494
it comes from a real life experience with a teacher actually.
it really blew my mind to realize that real human beings sometimes behave like poorly written characters

>>84348506
it's understandable they'd like a murderous pirate in context, in a time when that was only slightly less fucked up than the usual way to make a living. the pirate is the equivalent of a crooked banker. everyone else is sailing ships and shooting people, you're just cheating when you do it so you get more money that you stole directly from people that didnt do anything

>>84352561
Yikes. I went to a shitty state college and it never got that bad.

Or if it did it was more surreal. Like when an into psych class devolved into a Q&A about transsexuals because they got mentioned in passing and like 60 people were apparently super curious about it.

Also I just got to the part with the girl who has a Don Hertzfeldt tattoo on her neck.

>>84348506
Make her an animal abuser

>>84349148
I really like the premise of her learning at the same pace as the reader. Does AEON start off just trying to learn her abilities before they start using them?

>>84349271
I think it's gonna be really hard to make a neonazi sympathetic.

>>84351524
Sounds really interesting! Does Unbidden have technology of today? Or like, future-techonology? I think somewhere along the line it would be really tempting to write an arc from Unbidden's perspective, but then it might reveal too much.

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>>84352389
>If she's your bad guy, make her horrific. She should be like classic Jason Voorhees. When he shows up, something wretched is about to happen and we spend our time fearing his arrival rather than in later installments where we just want to see how over the top the kill will be.
Ooh! I like that. Limit her screentime and make the reader dread her appearance because they'll have been trained to expect something bad will happen when she shows up. That'll probably do the trick, thanks!

>>84350591
the hard part is getting yourself out there. i have a furaffinity account so i can draw porns for the furries but i havent gotten a single bite yet.

>>84351444
so do they all get horribly slaughtered or something?

>>84352778
>Does Unbidden have technology of today? Or like, future-techonology?

I'd say a mix of the two. They don't have space travel or nuclear weapons, nothing of that caliber, but they do have access to drop ships and attack craft.

>>84351517
>>84351511
>>84351498
>>84351481
>>84351470
>>84351462
>>84351444
don't listen to these faggots, your comic is really amazing and with just these pages I can can see where you're heading, my favorites have to be >>84351511 and >>84351517 (and unlike others said) it's perfectably readable that it's that point of the night when you're just too drunk and everything gets blurry and confusing, very surreal and dreamlike. I like the way you want this to be like a cinematic experience. My only issue is that, if you want it to be more cinematic, you could make more interestng shots, for example when they're talking it's just face shots above the torso, but you seem to know what you're doing! I'm going to read all of it!

>>84352947
How many watchers/followers do you have?

Build up your gallery and let folks see what subjects/fetishes you'll cater to.

What's your account called?

>>84351913
>medicineofficial.tumblr.com
The characters are completely unlike the people I grew up with and known, including the college professor, but maybe that's an issue of different nationality or something. There's a strong neo feminism vibe coming from your comic and while it's not my thing, the introduction of the characters has been done well so far and the art is pretty neat.

Do you do only horizontal panels because of what you were talking about in >>84351752
about preferring films? I'm actually positively surprised how nicely such panelling blends in, you don't even notice there's only little bit of variation in layouts until you look at the archives.

>>84352778
AEON is treating her as if she were a spy and for a while just keep her under observation, mostly so that hostiles don't get their hands on her.

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thoughts?

>>84353128
i dunno, last i heard furaffinity has some kind of ransomware in its ads, that bypasses noscript, so i'm too scared to go check
I guess my gallery is kind of lacking, but I said outright i'll draw anything, in the description thingy.
kairuhakubi

>>84353611
I love a good meta gag where it turns out a montage isn't a montage

>>84353611
Sensible chuckle. Well done, anon.

>>84353611
Cute! Actually got a chuckle out of me.

>>84351913
Just read through the archives. The art is nice, the characterizations are interesting, but so far the story feels rambling. The way it jumps from one character to another makes me wonder how many of these characters even matter.

>>84354000
>>84353714
>>84353642
thanks guys, going to touch it up and upload

>>84353622
One quick google later and it seems the ransomware thing is just a rumour, and only seems to have a possibility of a chance of affecting Android devices. Unless you browse on an android device that doesn't have some kind of anti-virus protection or adblocker, you should be okay.

If you're willing to draw 'anything', then put that 'anything' in your gallery. You'll attract the thirsty fetishists eager for someone who will stoop to satisfying their depraved urges soon enough.

On the other hand, there's no shame in limiting it to the things you are most comfortable drawing (or at least, you can maintain your dignity and self-respect).

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>>84350746
>>84350881
Yeah, Merle doesn't mind much.

Cheers!

>>84353049
>>84351524
do you actually have a reason for how they have advanced tech and why they suddenly ignored 300 years of isolation?

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So I've posted part of these in different HYW threads, and this is what I've got after taking some of you guys' advice. I added color, tweaked the flow, and added heavy value to try and draw the eye. What do you think?


1/3

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>>84354428

2/3

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>>84354455

and 3/3

I took a lot of your advice in adding solid blacks and pacing things a bit more. These three are on the webpage as a single scrolling image, reminiscent of nordic tapestry art.There are three more pages i can post if anyone is interested.

>>84348506
That's actually a interesting idea. Make a villain people think is just goofy comedic relief, like Team Rocket. And then slowly make them realize they have been laughing at someone raping, pillaging, and just flat out destroying hundreds of people's lives. If you do it right it could spawn a 'oh shit' realization moment.

>>84354178
>put that 'anything' in your gallery
shhit i dont want people seeing that shit. and there's only a little of it.. and i don't think i saved it anyway.
I'll draw anything but if it's messed up enough shit, I don't sign it, I don't add it to the gallery, and I always ask people nicely not to tell anyone it was me.. (i mean except their other fetishist friends obviously. need more biz.)

>>84354595
More likely, the reader will go "oh. He's turning this joke character 'serious' and edgy and terrible for no reason." and they'll stop reading the comic.

>>84354308
Maybe.

I've been playing with a few ideas. The one I like the most is that they found a cache of advanced weapons from a pre-apocalyptic civilization and took it upon themselves to make sure that the dangerous tech doesn't fall into the wrong hands.

>>84354508
yeah i think this really helps. i vaguely remember this before and it looks better now than it did then

>>84354595
>Blackbeard
>>84354753
not as long as you have other characters react believably to it. like "jesus what is WRONG with you?" and then have him react with a look that says "how is this different from how i've always been? i thought you liked unhinged guys" like when your cat is confused at your horror at it tearing a rabbit apart

>>84354740
You're charging extra for the things you can't put in your portfolio, I hope.

>>84354813
If I were reading the comic, I would still react like >>84354753 pretty much regardless of how you handled it unless you were in the top tier of comic authors, because it takes an extreme amount of skill and care to turn a joke character into a serious one, ESPECIALLY if you want to make them dark and twisted (read: edgy).

>>84354868
nahh they feel bad enough about themselves without me punishing them. however, in general, weirder shit is harder, and i charge more for shit being hard. actually a lack of fixed price points is probably what turns people off. until they've already spilled their spaghetti and told me what they want, I can't really tell them how much it's gonna cost.
>>84354925
fair enough, it takes skill.

>>84354771
not bad.

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The Sisters updated yesterday!

Forgot to post it before, d'oh well.

http://thesisters-comic.com
http://tapastic.com/series/The-Sisters

Fire, explosions, finally some action this chapter.

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Finished this page!

>>84355062
>punishing them
Is it really? They're asking you to make something you can't use to advertise yourself in the future, which is basically costing you money.

>a lack of fixed price points
Do you not have at least a guideline so they can guesstimate ahead of time? Something like
>line drawing: X per character
>simple coloring: XX per character
>complex rendered coloring: XXX per character
>disclaimer that you actually just charge whatever you feel like, along with a list of complications that will make things more expensive like unusual perspective, really complex character designs, complicated backgrounds, tight deadlines etc

>>84355405
has her mouth always been blue? i feel like i would have noticed

>>84355287
whoa.. that's.... that's extra -extra- bad. i wasn't expecting that. (even though you gave a helpful reminder of why this happened.. hehehe my memory is terrible. yet i keep trying to set things up like that in my comic)
>they shall see me fed on your mud-born kine
he's going to eat their cattle?

>>84355437
ahh well, true.. but let's just say i'll charge them that extra fee, then pay it back to them in hush money.

The problem with that is 'a character' can be six times as hard to draw as another character. I have vague guidelines, a rough range.. and i'm established as being cheaper than average so it's not like anyone's going to be like 'fuck i could have gotten this cheaper from someone else'. you can't.
and I tell them which things cost extra.. complicated clothes, shading, backgrounds, weird poses I have to practice (encouraging them to give me pose references instead).. I mentioned nudity is easier than clothes obviously..
That's not a bad idea though, give the guideline with massive asterisks.. I might rework that.

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>>84355517
Well, it was purple at first, but it's been blue since chapter 6 page 35.

>>84355707
Another thing you could do is just have a list of images that you've done in the past, how much you had the client pay for them, and why.

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Also, hey! Have a filler strip.

>>84355726
fuck my memory
>>84355751
I have considered that! and then I realized that hamstrings me for raising prices as demand goes up. as long as I keep it secret, I could charge more for the same thing, and it's not like they're ever going to compare notes.

>>84355779
Then instead of what you asked for them at the time, list the price you'd ask for them now.

>>84355877
oh hey that's not a terrible idea. and then just change those descriptions as needed.
you're giving me good things to think about all around. thanks you. sure wish i could get some of that sweet furry porn money. i actually kind of enjoy making it.

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>tfw I'm so busy being successful I can't post that much in here these days

>>84351913
>No super heroes or villains, just people
FYI that's called "slice of life."

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Bumpo~
Took me like half an hour, but I finally got Skeggöld mouth to look reasonable in the second panel. Ah, small victories...

>>84357181
Or mystery, romance, horror, tragedy, comedy...
You can forgo heroes and villains without indulging in that garbage non-genre.

>>84357280
slice of life is great to help forget how shitty my daily life is, but the one in that comic is somewaht boring

>>84357255
Panel 4, both bubbles are Skalmold, right?

You should just link the second bubble to the first one, instead of giving it its own stem. The way it's laid out now confuses me, like Skalmold says the first bubble and Skeggold says the second one, but that wouldn't make sense given the dialogue itself.

Would it be weird to start a comic just as the final battle is about to begin then go back and show everything leading up to it?

>>84357822
No. That's a pretty common storytelling technique, actually.

>>84357822

That's what comics, movies, and games tend to do. It's an effective tactic to get interest immediately. The downside is that it may spoil some surprises and if you move back and the pace is slow and uninteresting, you may lose people.

Then again, webcomics are able to retain readers easier given they update consistently and not turn off people completely.

>>84357853
really? guess I've never noticed

>>84357822
In medias res is a fine way to start, as long as you can give the reader some idea of what's going on in the final battle and why they should care. I wouldn't advise showing the end to the final battle, though, as that just spoils the whole story.

>>84357798
Oh, that's a really good point. I'll change that right up, thanks.

>>84358130
short porn comic? writing help? sure. whatchu need? also cute art.

>>84358130
What's the problem?
You can link a script in google docs so people can give you advice.

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>>84358130

Color me interested, anon. What do you want to do exactly?

>>84358173
thanks
>>84358177
I wrote one but threw it away out of embarrassment
I can do another one right now in a few min

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>>84358233
>>84358130
*unzips dick*

>>84357280
Man, how far is your head up your ass?

>>84358435
Jesus christ that sounds painful

>>84351444
Neither

>>84358130
BLUE

BOARD

>>84358604
blue boards are like beaches in sensible countries. until boobs are of a certain size, they're fine. you don't know what she's packing down there.

>>84358130

I'm kind of getting Bigdead vibes from you.

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>>84355756
S-shit...

>>84358130
>>84358344
http://pastebin.com/zGRPdV1F

here it is
writefags, please spoonfeed me on those sexy dialogues or how to write them

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>>84354300
Finished product

>>84358671

And what about your art? Got any links to galleries or whatever? Possibly... nsfw?

>>84358671
>yaoi
dammit. well i can't really help with that. i have to be interested. but i can tell you in general i like hearing what characters are thinking, and how they're reacting to it all

>>84358722
Nice page! One little thing that bothers me though are the lines (leftover pencil lines?) next to the portal or whatever it is in the first panel. They look kinda sloppy.

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>>84358768
I don't really have a gallery to show off
I lurk /ic/ and /v/ most of the time

but pic related is one of my sketches

>>84358233
Quit corrupting people.

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>>84358966

Yes, yes, I can help you with your script. Do you have Discord?

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>>84359022

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Is it weird that the majority of the characters in my comic are just over exaggerated parodies of shitty online personas I've used throughout my life?

I've slowly realized that that's exactly what they are

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>>84359022
uh yeah, it's Anonymoose
what group do I go to?

>>84359089
that sounds like a GREAT way to write!

>>84359115
i THOUGHT you looked familiar!

>>84359115

https://discord.gg/UV3sF

>>84359125
I'm being serious
It seems like the comic is just me making fun of how I used to act throughout my autistic life
I don't know why but this makes me want to finish this comic even more

>>84359171
I was being serious too. How better to write flawed and interesting characters?

>>84359219
Exactly, I know me the best and I'm the most flawed person I know, so all I gotta do is write myself interesting a couple of times over and I'm set for a great group of characters

>>84355756
That's actually pretty cute!

Y-You should draw her nude

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>TFW writing first draft

>>84359407
he did that one time. and under the most adorable of circumstances (being too hot and uncomfortable)

>>84359407
Maybe if you commissioned me I would.
Money is my weakness.
Other than that, never.

>>84357822
It's worked several times before, no reason not to go for it. It gives the reader something to look forward to and wonder how the character got to the situation they're if if for example
>Opening shows the MC with a beard, shining armor, in the front line of an army
>Flash back to the same guy as a scrawny shepherd being pushed around
That's generates almost instant curiosity, at the very least; I don't like doing it because I prefer being surprised by the progression, but it's a perfectly valid storytelling technique.

>>84359488
You'd think that feeling would go away; but it comes back with every new chapter

>>84357280
I think those genres have "heroes & villains" at least 90% of the time too

>>84351752
I feel you're actually doing your storytelling a disservice by simply trying to emulate film. There's techniques you can use in comics which are impossible to translate in film format. And the art is actually real nice, mind you.

>>84351524
How advanced with respect to the middle ages are we talking about? Like, Industrial Revolution-advanced? As a basic premise it typical enough (which isn't a negative); perhaps something interesting for her to discover would be how an isolated nation actually becomes technologically superior

>>84348506
Don't make her hot. I'm serious, that's the main reason people sympathize with Draco or Azula. Really though, you can't change how people feel; I enjoy villains who are completely irredeemable.
You can make her a bitch all you want, but you don't really control what people think of her

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my comic updated today so i thought i'd post here

http://www.junkyardheroes.com/

I really do hate drawing backgrounds and environments. I need to get past that.

>>84347888
>suggest me a good webcomic with an ongoing story, pretty please.

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Question, does the girl's expression look alright? I'm trying to show she's surprised and excited in a childish sort of way but I don't know if it looks quite right.

>>84360650
Kill Six Billion Demons is pretty great, I'd very much reccommend it if youre not already reading it

>>84360650
The Sisters
Paranatural
Ava's Demon
Peritale
The Black Bull of Norroway http://norroway.tumblr.com/
Africa http://arven92.deviantart.com/gallery/44688292/The-Comic

>>84360687
right now her expression feels bashful or ashamed rather than surprised and excited. It's part of her body language too, if she was really excited about it she'd be leaning towards him, and she probably wouldnt be putting a hand over her face. Maybe she'd be clasping her staff? idk. Her mouth would be more neutral or near a smile rather than the downwards turn it has. And if she does recoil in embarassment I feel like you'd be better served by showing her be excited (maybe even by a cut in panel) and then show her be bashful from his disapproving glance.

when it comes to expressions, making that expression into a mirror and using that as reference is a pretty reliable base

what music do you listen while working on your masterpieces?

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>>84360801
Thanks for the advice, does this look better?

>>84352778
>I think it's gonna be really hard to make a neonazi sympathetic.
They aren't actually neonazis, just British white nationalists who think Muslims are taking over London.

and the biggest joke is, they are proven right!

>>84361590
it does, but it could still go farther- now it just looks like she's happy, I'd widen her eyes by lowering her pupil so its not touching the edge of her eye, making it look like it's wider than it may actually be. other than that the expression looks solid! Good work!

>>84360687
i would say childish excited delight would be big eyes, big pupils, little pursed mouth. like shirley temple's kinda 'oh my goo'ness'

>>84361800
that.
the fact that these sorts are usually between 1/3rd and 1/4th right is really is the biggest joke of all.

>>84360485
>How advanced with respect to the middle ages are we talking about? Like, Industrial Revolution-advanced? As a basic premise it typical enough (which isn't a negative); perhaps something interesting for her to discover would be how an isolated nation actually becomes technologically superior
see
>>84353049
>>84354771

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I made this because I felt weeaboo. Read it as manga.

>>84362739
cute as goddamn balls. more please
reminds me of pchan mahou densetsu.. which i also miss.

>>84362820
That's all I have right now, but thanks.

>>84362739
Draw them nude please

>>84362857
well okay then, more of something-else!

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Okay so I need a bit of help with the story of my web comic, here's what I have so far:
Makisa, a japanesa highschool girl with no arm wakes up suddenly in a unknown place where she must fight a group of demons trying to conquer this magical world, also she suddenly has fire manipulation and joins a guild of young apprentices of magic that become her friends. I don't know if this is enough to start, I might upload it to tapastic. I will post more designs.

>>84363062
Oh, how embarrassing.

>>84363153
the story is that bad?

>>84361800
Get the fuck out, /pol/

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>>84363062

Nice! Really good stuff here. You've clearly got a good grasp on anatomy drawing, though your shading could use some work. Maybe look up tutorials online?

As for the story, I really like what you're proposing. It's pretty original if I do say so, I'd definitely read it if you ever end up publishing. Don't let the haters get you down!

>>84363266
thanks! any links for those tutorials? my anatomy is a little rusty

>>84360800
>those last two
well i wont be getting any work on my comic done tonight will I? damn those are some good comics.
>>84363259
they are taking over, dude. that's just a fact. and when crazies are right about something, that's a pretty funny joke, isn't it?

>>84363284
No problem. You can find links to anatomy toots >>84347959 roit here

>>84362716
Oh, I see; that sounds real nifty. Reminds me of Nausicaa where they use all this "old modern tech"

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>>84362739

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I want to rub my dick on Ellen's armpits and cum on her feet!

>>84364286
i forgot how much i needed this kind of humor. i've been starved of it this last decade when it went out of fashion

>>84364406
>i forgot how much i needed this kind of humor
You mean weeb as fug?

>>84364782
specifically the really cute kind where everyone's a little bit mean and stupid.

>>84363324
>/pol/
>crazy
I see you're still bluepilled. They only seem crazy because they see what you don't.

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>>84365175
this can't be serious

>>84365186
don't be rude

>>84365186
there's an anon that posts autistic comics he finds on DA or something

>>84365166
yeah no. /pol/ is an abstract mixture of contrarians, confused kids, and edgelords who think cartman is a role model rather than a joke.
the only acceptable pharmacies from which to acquire red pills are people with sensible tv shows such as john stossel. the key way you can tell the difference is if they have like, charts and graphs. also their views on israel, that's a key one. confused fakey jokey conservatives think antisemitism is funny, rather than something liberals have been behind for.. pretty much as long as there's been jews. real conservatives support israel and wonder why obama and hillary haven't been convicted of treason for funding palestine with our tax money

>>84365186
don't reply to it
>that image
oh nevermind it's you

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>>84365294
I don't post on DA, actually I have never released any of the chapters yet but here's one page

>>84365080
Seriously appreciated dude, I have 2 more in mind but I'll do them later because I'm going to play some Demon's Souls for the last 3 hours

>>84365796
delete this

>>84365847
stop responding to it

>>84365847
fuck you at least be constructive

>>84365830
okay but don't go away dammit. i need you. you and me are gonna be pals. we're gonna do great things, anon!

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Supercool super-sword- I need a better name than COSMIC CUTLESS.
ideas welcome. Thanks.

>>84366009
the panel seems cool but the perspective is a bit off check it, apart from that it's great!

>>84366051
Thank you! I will work the perspective.

>>84366009
i was about to fix your spelling but i see you spelled it right in the comic.
i'll help out, i'm good at this. what exactly makes it super? why is it like that? origins? characteristics?

>>84366161
Spelling: I try but I fucking fail.

This is my rough idea.
It is made from a metal present only in the universe that existed prior to the Big Bang. It was made by the eveil No Gods, rulers of that universe specifically to slay immortals with and is said to be powerful enough in the right hands to open a planet to the core.

It's like Mjolnir, kinda, but evil and a sword, and there are several more, some of which are mor pwerful and do different stuff. Most of those are thoight to be destroyed.

I think you can cut a hole in space for travel purposes, but using it is a hellish, psycho active nightmare ordeal.

>>84366290
awesome. so aside from heavy shit like 'dreadsaber' you could go more specific like 'core cleaver' or 'life-render' since it can rend even eternal life.. uh.. or you could go subtle.. if it was just called threadcutter, like.. it sounds like nothing, but it's cutting even threads of destiny or whatever. if there's a mythos surrounding these gods, any very specific imagery they use would be fantastic. if you establish early on they have some kind of metaphor like the threads of fate example.. there must be some workable metaphor with the idea of killing immortals. Like it's a punctuation mark, putting an end on what could otherwise go on forever.
otherwise just call it the scimitar of judgment, the divine executioner's cutless, the martyr maker.. the eraser of permanence.. the early razor..

>>84366504
Garbage

>>84366504
I like your thinking. The subtle is how I want to go.
I think I am going to call it "Never's Edge"

>>84366642
there we go! that's perfect. it's from before time and it's an edge in more ways than one!
>>84366593
true but I know I was along the right lines, and I knew it would get HIM thinking along the right lines.

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WIP of the upcoming update. slowing things down and transitioning to comfy is a nice change of pace.

>>84364361
i like how you draw eyes.

>>84364286
your art is cute and readable. keep up the good work!

>>84360800
>The Black Bull of Norroway
Fucking.. binged the archive.. loved what I was seeing.. then suddenly, just as I was about to be caught up and feel satisfied,
>completely out of place mohawked grosslooking beaky stereotypical tumblr OC
>other characters, in a fucking fairytale setting, insistently use 'they' pronouns for her
>on top of that, towards the end only 1 in 10 pages are actually comic, the rest is a bunch of self-indulgent stuff that should have its own page on the site, not be part of the archive you navigate with the navigation buttons (earlier the ratio is reversed, every 20 pages or so you have to sit through a few pages of re-posted comics)
I fucking goddamn hate tumblr. everything about it.

>>84367781
also the URLs seem to be counting down to 1, so presumably if I had paused my binge and refreshed, I would have been looking at a different page, had they updated in the meantime. That is no way to run a website.

>>84367781
I would only use "they" pronouns if a character was a fusion/hivemind/gestalt entity.
Otherwise it just gets confusing, especially if that character joins a group of other people.

>>84361800
>they aren't neo-nazis, they're just neo-nazis

Yeah, OK /pol/.

>>84367976
to be strictly accurate, in the venn diagram, "nationalists who are white" would be a larger circle, with nazis as a smaller circle inside of it.
it may be a little confusing to you, but nationalism is good, and socialism is bad. that's why national socialists were so really extra bad, but in a way that got so many people on their side.

>>84368004
>he thinks socialism is the real enemy
Confirmed bluepill

>>84361800
Right, right, and muslims want to kill gays all day long while Christians are are little angels who only want to protect their way of life when they murder people.

Seriously, go back to/pol

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I've been experimenting with different minimalist styles for the webcomic I've been planning now that the plot is all finished and planned out. Due to the nature of the comic type I'm doing (audience input a la prequel, Awful Hospital or homestuck but the commented commands are given to the protagonists in the form of a glitchy instructional AI aboard their ship) so it will have to be updated pretty frequently. I'm trying to find a style I can do quickly without it looking cheap and ugly. Here's the first test I've done, a samurai jack inspired pic the Draught twin characters I've posted pics of before. If anyone has any other recommendations for time efficient art styles that could be used in a sci fi setting I'd really appreciate suggestions.

>>84368326

Correction. Muslims get a free pass to kill gay people while Christians are waiting for the day when they can get a turn but until then, they have to settle with being petty, like refusing to bake cakes for gay couples.

>>84368857
I'm afraid I don't have much constructive criticism for you, but I would not read a comic that looked like that. I wish I could tell you more specifically what's bothering me or how to fix it, but I can't articulate it. Something about the aliasing, or the too-sharp angles?
It does look decent in the thumbnail, though.

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>>84368931
No problem. If it's ugly, it's ugly. It was just an experiment. I guess this one just failed. I'm sure I'll probably run through a hundred styles before I finally settle on one.

>>84367976
>all white nationalists are nazis
I don't think you understand much about anything

>>84368326
>Christians are are little angels who only want to protect their way of life when they murder people.
I know you understand nothing

>>84352778
Animal abuse is really easy to excuse

>*tips fedora preemptively*
>well its an evolutionary advantage to judge creatures outside your species as objects
>she's just playing with her food give her a break
>discipline works, it's just a dog/whatever
>you grew up on disney cartoons

>>84365186
it's still better than out of placers

:^

>>84368978
Looking at this for comparison, I think a lot of it is the complete absence of curves. Using a curve tool instead of a line tool would probably improve it by a lot.

Also, I just realized that HOLY SHIT THEY'RE CYCLOPES THAT FIRST IMAGE MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW I THOUGHT THEY WERE WEARING WEIRD NARROW SHADES OR THEY WERE SQUINTING OR SOMETHING BUT THAT TRIANGLE ABOVE THE LINE IS A PUPIL
Damn.
I can't unsee it now, but here's some things that I think might have let me see it to start
>drawing lashes above the eye, too
>giving them an iris
>making the sclera a slightly different tint of white than their skin

>>84351913
Dude, don't use photos for background textures, it's jarring and ugly as fuck, they don't mix with the charaters at all. This page you posted here is much nicer, even though they are simple pencil drawings with basic colors and shading, it fits the mood perfectly.

I'm not really a fan of your webcomic, the art is pretty nice in general, I just hate this type of college people your comic is about, also that whole borderline incest femdom fetish part, wtf was that.
I kinda love what you did with the first part, though, you have the perfect tumblr visual for your protagonist, a girl, fat, black, colored hair, you shower your comic with feminist talking points, you fill a one, two pages with it, and then you have tumblr girl refute them until they have to give up and resort to name calling.
I got pretty excited with this part, thinking it would be a tumblr comic about refuting tumblr, but then... That whole other part that comes after, the whole skate thing and then the bathroom scene, just looks like you wrote something while you were horny.

What are you planning to do with your comic? Where is this going?

>>84369230
>Using a curve tool instead of a line tool
*in a few places
I don't mean you should get rid of straight lines entirely.

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>>84351913
Btw, only mistake I noticed while reading casually

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Update! What do you guys think?

>>84369541
OK, I laughed. Dis gon b gud.

>>84354428
Great! It looks and reads a lot better. Adding value improved your comic a lot. Good job!

Would you mind posting your website again?

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>>84369541
this will end well

I can't wait for the debut of the Skirmisher

>>84369541
The vertical perspective in panel 4 feels really off.
Didn't jump out at me on the first read, though, so probably not a big enough problem to warrant fixing.

Saw it coming, but it'll probably read fine for a reader who doesn't have months and months to wonder at the significance of her gymnastics before the conclusion.

>those posters in the background
Who makes superhero merchandise in this universe, anyway? I can't imagine Janice is seeing any royalties, or that it's actually her on the posters. Must be weird having your kid's room decorated with posters of people dressing up like you.
...

>in an alternate universe, Janice finds her son's porn and it's all Miss Melee cosplayers

>>84369742
They could be drawings of her.

>>84369804
>Janice peeks at what Jackie's doing on her computer
>it's nothing but her making Miss Melee commissions on Tumblr

>>84369804
True. I guess they could even be pretty accurately referenced, given that Melee doesn't seem like the type to avoid being photographed in action.
Which raises the question how nobody's noticing the likeness, but I guess that's just superheroes for you.

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WIP of the next page!

Page 1

And the only page i can really be lazy with, next page actually has people and shit

Let's see if i'm capable of drawing thin hair, like, chemo patient hair of Detective Klark Henderson

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>>84370296
GREAT START BERT! fucking hell i forgot the image and i can't draw wheels and i suck balls and the whole "black and white with occasional colours for emphasis" thing looks like a good idea actually

>>84370307
More contrast and don't cramp your word balloons.

>>84370340
>More contrast
could you go into a bit more detail please? i'm not great at the whole grey-scale thing

Also, thinking of giving each main character a single colored item of clothing to help distinguish them, and having their speech bubbles lightly colored that way

>>84370307
Please tell me that's not the font you're actually going to put in the comic.

>>84370388
probably not, something is so off-putting about Arial in a comic

>>84370307
>sleepaway slaughter
Shouldn't that be "slaughterer"?

Anyway, issues: you forgot to draw the underside of the roof on the right of the house, the windows are either way too bright or way too dark depending on whether the lights are supposed to be on, and I have no ideas where this house is located.
Is it in a crowded city? A suburb? A deep forest? The middle of the Alaskan tundra? The scenic fjords of Norway? This dark gray abyss of a background really isn't telling me anything.
Don't be afraid to have pure black and pure white in the scene.

>>84370361
Basically, use the entire range of values, from pure white to pure black. Proper use of value is one of the absolute key elements in directing the reader's eye through a page. Try reading through this.
http://guidetodrawing.com/composition/value-composition/

>>84370307
>>84370426
You can download comic fonts for free at blambot.com

>>84370267
2 arms out of nowhere

>>84370766
Fug, I'll fix that.

>>84370522
>Write script draft
>Realize it's several pages short.
>End up creating a few extra characters and writing a B plot, which makes the whole thing better.

I love when things come together.

>>84370267
is that a bouncy castle? if it's a real castle it looks like shit, but if it's a bouncy castle... that's actually pretty funny.

>>84370944
Dewd is a horrible artist so what do you think the real answer is?

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>go on vacation for a week, come back home and check your site stats
>0 views

>>84370267
> tail of the first balloon AND tip of the hair tangent to the vertical line
Are you doing it on purpose?

>>84371357
That would imply forethought or afterthought.

>>84370465
I think it's a retarded name anyway, but he kills whole families in their houses at night. just walks in, picks up a weapon at the house, and kills them in their beds.

Our protagonists are 3 misfit cops who are investigating the local night-walker subculture as potential suspects, while the federal police handle the "real" investegation

Klark Henderson, an older cop who transferred out of homicide because it was destroying his health, marriage, and hair.

Angelito Polo, a half Filipino with a silver tounge, not very experienced in homocide, but good with people. tends to get people talking a lot more than they should

Monica Priss, a lady cop with a heart of pure coal. she doesn't give a shit about your rights, or your expectation of privacy. she's gotten away with a lot by claiming sexism but was recently suspended from duty, but in light of the current situation it's all hands on deck. no matter how slimy

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>>84371240
>go on vacation for a few seconds, come back home and check your site stats
>10000000+ views

>>84371392
Yeah I get that, it's just that "slaughter" doesn't sound like a title you'd give a person.
"The Bedtime Butcher", maybe?

>>84371419
that may be better

I'll get a few more pages in before i publish anywhere, i can change it up to that

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>>84371419
wait, yes, it should be slaughterer

I'm doing this comic as a practice for another comic i plan to make, it's a short, self contained story for the genre defying insane gay interest alt right romantic thriller comedy political satire punk aesthetic pre societal collapse dystopian near future foreign set comic i intend to make in future, but i can't make it work without good art. i've learned so much in the last few days, i'm really looking forward to getting into the main body of the comic and learning to draw people.

Something that seems really hard is drawing people physically interacting with one another, like touching and stuff.

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>tfw no one will ever cosplay as your characters

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>>84371505
>the genre defying insane gay interest alt right romantic thriller comedy political satire punk aesthetic pre societal collapse dystopian near future foreign set comic

It can't be worse than The Dewd. Seriously, his noses are as bad as dobson's eyebrows

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here is another one of my designs so far!

>>84371559
>>84365796
>>84365175
>>84363062
Is this guy Bones? I'm getting Bones vibes.

>>84371604
Who's bones?

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>>84371559
really makes you think...

>>84371622
Someone with drawings so bad they're kind of gross to look at. Also he posts like 12 wips in any thread he's in. And lacks any self awareness at all.

>>84371549
Dress your characters as people you know without them knowing.
They'll cosplay your characters everyday without knowing, it's perfect!

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>>84371622

>>84371557
How do I improve my noses?

>>84371691
By giving a damn when you're drawing them, for starters.

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>>84371720

>>84371720
I will gladly do that if you would kindly guide me along the way of how to draw a good looking nose, please and thank you pal!

>>84371691
make them less obnoxious

>>84371691
practice drawing noses in real life... draw your own nose in a mirror from a bunch of different angles, observing the interlocking structures... then try creating some of your own by altering the proportions of the structure while maintaining how they fit together

>>84371769
No you don't. You can find plenty of nose tutorials that you can adapt to your own stuff, but instead of trying on your own to see what works, and ask for feedback here, you want people to make your job easier and find your end goal for you.

Draw your own nose in every angle you can and pratice that over and over, like >>84371806 said.

>>84371774
>>84371806
>>84371875
Alright, I will do this.

Just curious, are their certain characters who's noses are bad, or is it just all of them, If it is in fact the former, please tell me, thank you!

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>waiting for dewd to actually use the advice that's been given to him

>>84369111
But it helps to make your antagonist less like-able. Maybe not her main selling point, but something she would do.
Would you be okay if you saw someone beat their dog? Its uncomfortable, it distances, it symbolises a lack of respect for living things.
I mean, you would be going out of your way to hurt something that would otherwise not bother you.
Maybe instead of her lackeys justifying it by saying, she's just playing, have them feel uncomfortable. One screw up, and it could be them, or they could be doing nothing and they could still be next.
I guess it doesn't have to be animal abuse, but rather something she does that's well thought out, but at the same time just isn't understandable.
>parasyte - when he just throws that dog away in the trash
That made me pretty uncomfortable.
>Russian kids killing homeless people
They have fucking nothing, live in the forest, and stay out of society.

>>84371917
You have poor facial features in general because you refuse to listen to the advice given to you over a year ago: study perspective and three dimensional shapes.

They're wasting their time telling you this, just like I'm wasting my time saying this, because in six months you'll still be drawing with no understanding of perspective.

>>84371557
STOP IGNORING THIS
>the genre defying insane gay interest alt right romantic thriller comedy political satire punk aesthetic pre societal collapse dystopian near future foreign set comic

No, really, i want more info on this. Is this a joke? please tell me this is a joke. just... how?

>>84372010
>genre defying
>proceeds to list a bunch of genres
It's gotta be a troll.

>>84371917
Your problem is not specific characters. Your issue is not caring about how your designs work in 3D. You just draw something that looks good enough for you, and call it a day.

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>>84372010
imagine the first act of Fight Club, American History X in reverse with muslims, the British Nationalist Party, Harry Brown, and this pet shop boys song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY02QPyYR7s
all forming the backdrop of a journey of self discovery and the awkwardness of first time homoerotic feelings and late onset bisexuality in a subculture of hyper masculinity. as the city around them begins to collapse, as the white nationalists begin to seem like the least insane people in an impoverished separatist London on the verge of a second civil war in a decade, can they themselves, let alone their uncomfortable feelings for each other, survive?

>>84372238
Oh!

>>84372238
It's a neat-sounding concept, but very ambitious. The execution would have to be completely on point for it to work and you're not exactly a seasoned author.
That said, if you're gonna fuck up, you might as well fuck up doing something cool.

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Well, long live planning ahead. The next page didn't work so well with nebulous infinite cloud coverage, so I'm having them go above the clouds in the final panel of this one to set it up better.

How's the river in the penultimate panel? Do the colors make it look like blood to you guys?

>>84372457
>the way skeggold's eyes are drawn make it too difficult to mspaint googly eyes

>>84372493
Well there'd be no fun in it if I made it too easy for you.

>>84371769
Dewd, provided you're not a very determined troll you need to be humble and accept the fact that you need to practice the basics. You need to get the book "Fun With a Pencil" and practice drawing ball and cross heads as it instructs you. You need to do it until you get it right and you know what you're doing. You need to practice drawing simple shapes like spheres, cubes, cones, pyramids and cylinders and learn to use them to build your drawings.

It doesn't matter if you think it's hogwash / people are jealous / you have talent, if you want to improve you need to sit through the homework just like everyone else does. Otherwise you'll never get better. In fact, you'll get worse because at this point you are scribbling things down without even thinking.

I feel like you're asking for feedback because you think you're supposed to act humble to get fans, not because you really give a shit.

>>84372238
>>84372321
So it's the not too distant future, London separated from the UK in order to rejoin the failing EU which is undergoing massive upheaval and the city is separated between the rich in central London and the impoverished elsewhere

Rule of law is breaking down, the elites don't give a shit about the poor and the poor at this point no longer get to vote as voting is done by "lot voting" and somehow nobody has ever been called or even met somebody who has been called.

The lead characters are a journalist from the "middle class" who is out to write a series of hit pieces to de-legitimize the "Reunification" moment which is regarded to be a bunch of racist white supremacists. and to a degree they really are racist, particularly against Indians and Pakistanis. but he accidentally becomes befriended by the leader, who isn't much older than him and starts to understand that what he's been taught for years isn't entirely true. But is he just falling for the charismatic man and his crush is blinding him to their violence? would these people kill him if he was outed to them?

Make no mistake, these are bad people doing bad things, but so are most of the people involved. The leader will do some shocking, violent, horrible things and as much as he tries to justify them, it's not going to be a soap box.

It's also a lampoon of the absurdity of the people trying to overthrow the "brexit" vote, i mean no matter what side you are on, they have started to actually endorse fascism and promote the idea of only the rich being permitted to vote at this point.

Basically, I'm going to make fun of every absurdity in internationally relevant European politics from the perspective of people who would be forced to live in the systems people in the media are promoting, both of which have very different perspectives on a system neither of them really fully understand

>>84372733
Imagine going back in time and making an Occupy Wall Street parody comic. Come back to today, and imagine looking at the archive of a comic that started that way.

Your shit sounds cringey in the here and now, but it is going to look so much worse in like two or three years.

>>84372812
It takes the cultural/racial tensions of London and puts it into a pressure cooker. and the idea of "voting by lots" instead of giving each person self determinism is always going to be ludicrous

>>84372812
When did occupy wall street stop being funny?

and when will the salt from the brexit stop being funny?