A daily reminder that this art is Eisner and Harvey nominated

ebin

>>84310893
I don't actually mind this art.
The worst sin other than Liefeld-tier feet is the coloring. Otherwise, it's good

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But isn't this like nominating the special ed kid for prom king because it's funny?

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>>84310893

Its awful but I dont see how that garbage is any worse than Allred art who also won an Eisner

>>84311421
Allred can draw faces and expressions that actual humans could potentially have

So does Squirrel Girl have downs syndrome or something?

>award shows
it is bad, though, yeah

This is one of my favorite books on the stands, fuck all y'all.

>>84311645
>downs syndrome
That or fetal alcohol syndrome.

>>84311923
How does it feel to have bad taste?

>>84312002
I wouldn't know.

>>84312048
Right, no self awareness

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>>84311923
That's horrible, because the only thing worse than the art of Squirrel girl is its writing.

It's horribly generic quirking at its worst

>>84312100
Nah, I am just feeling the good vibes of reading fun comics that I enjoy. Meanwhile, you're here posting on 4chan about how bitter you are about people not liking the same comic books as you.

>>84310893
The art is anal waste.

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>>84312134
I'm not bitter, just confused.

The comics I like are good, while you're defending dogshit

>>84312176
>He thinks what's good is objective
I can see how a weeb would think that, I guess, but should really just learn to accept that people like different things than you.

I'm glad Spider-Man's marriage ended too. :^)

>>84312176
>>84312223
Just have sex with each other already.

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>>84312223
>He thinks what's good is objective
>He thinks Comic Book illustrations fall under the bullshit umbrella of interpretation

Ciomic book illustrators aren't artists, they're craftsmen, and she is incompetent at her job, making her objectively shit.

>it's a "retard fight episode"

>>84312267
>Ciomic

>>84312176
> replying to bait

/co/ never dissappoints

>>84312267
>Ciomic book illustrators aren't artists, they're craftsmen
You're retarded.

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>>84312267
>genuinely believing this

Holy shit. Capeshit fans are even more hopeless than I thought.

>>84312134
fuck your good vibes

Eisners really don't mean shit. Awards don't mean shit.

>>84312297
How many comics and/or cartoons do legitimately feature retard fights?

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>>84312426

>>84312473
Not enough.

>>84312408
>i've read the most mainstream comic book analysis available
>that makes me superior to the feeble "capeshits!"
Hipsters are adorable.

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>>84312369
I'm retarded?

Do you seriously think anyone who draws anything can rightfully be called an artist?

Do you seriously think people like Henderson or Jeph Jacques should be lumped into the same category as Dore or Aja?

These hacks hide behind the word art and its lofty connotations to mask their ineptitude.

>>84310893
The Harvey Award has been sabotaged by Valiant Fags, knowing that its nomination system relied on a fucking honor rule where as long as you claimed to be someone from the industry, their website will let you nominate.

>>84312134
I get 'good vibes' starving my brain of oxygen as well. Doesn't mean it's good.

>>84311923
Explain why.
EUROPEAN EXTREME MODE: Explain why with an actual analysis of the book, without using "fun" or "comfy" or similar value-free statements.

>>84312506
>These drawings are art but the ones in comic books aren't because I don't like the new Squirrel Girl comic
Yeah, okay.

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>>84312267
>>84312176
>>84312120
> Weeb expecting us to like what he likes
>>>/a/
> inb4 muh animu website

>>84312223
>He likes Squirrel Girl

>He hated Peter's marriage.

You are somehow bellow shit taste.

>>84312506
That man is made of pubes.

>>84312614
>bellow

>>84312541
It's both fun and comfy.

Marvel has such shit books out, I enjoy little slice of life comedic comics like this. It kind of reminds me of the Plastic Man comic from the 90's, although admittedly not as good. Aside from Punisher and ASM, I am no longer interested in Marvel's mainstream superhero line so I will check out everything I can that's contrary to the god awful output they've been spewing out since Alonso took over. Howard the Duck and Silver Surfer are a couple more examples, although IMO the former is not very good and I quit reading it a few issues in.

>>84312614
Quote me saying I 'hated' the marriage?

>>84312643
I don't have to worry about grammar when talking to people who have the same tastes as a tard.

>>84312675
>I'm glad Spider-Man's marriage ended too. :^)

>>84312723
>grammar
Except I was talking about your spelling.

>>84312747
Weird, I see nothing in that quote about me hating the marriage, only that I prefer the recent post-OMD comics.

Are you guys so delusional that you think anyone who doesn't agree with you *hates* those comics?

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>>84312562
It isn't art because there's no genius behind it.

Henderson wallows in her ineptitude, and artists don't wallow, they strive for perfection in their works.

Genius takes many forms, but when it is evident, it is evident.

Now, there's no shame in not being an artist, as true genius is rare among men, but when one is a Craftsperson, one must strive to be skilled. Henderson isn't skilled.

We're talking actual, observable failings on her part, which should not be present in the work of a professional illustrator.

If you were to buy a chair from a carpenter which did not serve its purpose, would you excuse the failing by virtue of it being art?

>>84312506
Son, "Art" is pretty much the single most personal and objective concept ever created by human beings. Art is what *I* damn well say it is. And I don't particularly care whether you agree with me or not; whatever you like or don't is fine by me. I don't feel any particular need to persuade you to like what I do, nor to dis anything you like that I don't. Why you want to waste time and energy on all that is a mystery to me. I consider that more weird/wrong than the the fact that you hate Erica Henderson's work.

>>84312782
>He likes Slott-era Peter.

Fuck me, that's even worse!

>>84310893
That's a lot of Tintins.

>>84312797
>Derp, art is objective and requires genius
What makes this really sad is that this all stems from you being mad that some guy on the internet likes a Squirrel Girl comic.

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>>84312817
I don't care if you like it, but saying it's subjective art in an attempt to excuse its utilitarian failings is not acceptable.

You can think it's the greatest piece of art in the world, but don't say that it's not bad at its job.

>>84312833
I liked BND up to around the beginning of Big Time, which is where I'd say things started falling off.

>>84312918
Its job is to sell comics, which it does.

I think we can all agree that art, like everything in life, is subjective. There is no one true definition of art, it is what we chose it to be. That being said, I personally don't like Henderson's art because she can do better than this. There's a reason why she's able to have two ongoing monthly series with a consistent style; she simplified her style and it shows. Compare the art for the first issue of SG to the most reason one and it'll become apparent- she's just fucking lazy.

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>>84312918
>>84312797
>>84312506
>>84312267
>>84312176
>>84312120
Alright faghot, since you said art is genius, post your art.

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>>84312898
If art doesn't require Genius, then it's all but meaningless.

Where do we draw the line between the Hendersons and the Leonardos if both can be called artists with a straight face?

>>84311645
I would be ok with it if it was just squirrel girl herself that looked shit it could be an interesting idea to have an ugly hero

But that's not the case it's just shit art

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>>84310893

Comics are doomed

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>>84312999
>Seriously employing the old Master Chef fallacy

Jesus

>>84313001
Art's meaning stems from whatever you take from it. What you find meaningless, someone else may find extraordinary. You are retarded if you think there's some all-encompassing factor that makes art 'good' or 'bad' objectively.

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>>84312898
>derp
was getting caught part of your plan?

>>84312176
I mean your right it is dogshit but that's pretty much the worst way of putting your argument it sounds really bad

>>84312965

Indeedy! Which leads me to believe that our highfalutin' Art Critics here are either well-spoken trolls, or just absurdly pissed that someone likes something they don't. Which, as I said, is a totally alien mindset to me.

>>84312223
Of all the things you could have said you had to resort to calling him a weeb

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>>84313051
Then it is meaningless as a word.

If the same word can be used to describe anything, then it is vague beyond reasonable use.

Provide me with the words which I can accurately use to damn the inept and praise the Masters justly if art is dead.

So why is Squirrel girl art bad but people eat up all those badly drawn indies and europoor hipster comics with just as bad art?

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>>84312918

An abstract idea like "art" apparently has a "job" now...

/a/ not even once....

>>84313044
> He's too pussy to post his art.jpg

>>84313100
Yup, art is a vague word. That's why there's always going to be a continual discussion about what is art.

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>>84313119
Generally because they at least have good writing.

I mean I hate the illustrations in shit like Maus and Chris Ware stuff, too, but I can't deny they're well written. Nobody praises that art, though.

With Squirrel Girl, the whole kit and caboodle is shit from the quirky script to the dreadful illustrations.

>>84313100
Masterpiece. There. You can call the good art masterpieces. How could you forget that word. Fucking idiot.

>>84313001

you dipshit, do you think Da Vinci was the only artist of his time? there were still scrubs and shit painters and sculptors all over the place calling themselves artists

do you want some sort of certified artists guild or something like that?

I'm hoping this whole shitshow is just bait.

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>>84313001
Define "genius". I bet that's almost as slippery a concept to pin down as artistic merit.

As for me, well, I've always found Scott McCloud's definition of Art to be pretty suitable.

>>84312506
Yes, you're retarded. But not as retarded as the guy who likes squirrel girl.

god, you people are dumb. It's expressive art that aims for cartoonishness and not realism. Deal with it. Might not be your cup of tea, but it's intentionally stylized.

>>84313293
Good bai-wait no

this is overused bait, go away

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>>84313180
I'm not an artist, so I don't have art to post.

I don't claim to be an artist or a genius, I just get annoyed when people try to justify crappy drawings as art, even when it's not art.

You can judge a drawing objectively, you can.

If you want to judge my crappy doodles, you can.

This isn't art, it's a shitty drawing. Shitty still than even Squirrel Girl, but my being shittier than her doesn't mean I can't tell her drawings are shit.

>>84313335

no one has ever successfully rebutted this bait, so

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>>84313293
>It's expressive art that aims for cartoonishness and not realism.

You can do that without being fucking garbage like Henderson. See gurihiru

>>84313293
And the stylization looks like shit, you retarded fucking faggot.

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>>84312999
I drew this last week

>>84313372
That IS art. It's just BAD art. Art does not require genius you fucking moron.

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>/co/ can't handle other people's opinion
>/co/ is tumblr
Maybe we just want to enjoy cartoony art. Maybe we just want to look at something different from the mainstream.

>>84313372
That's actually pretty decent.

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>>84313434
I drew it, so I can say whether or not it's are.

It's not art.

>>84313228
Leonardo was not the only craftsman of his time, but not everyone of his peers was an artist, that's my contention.

I contend that genius and ability is what separates art from general craft.

And if that's not what it means, then I contend that that's what it should mean.

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>>84313293
Nah, it's lazy
Check out the art that she did for Quantum & Woody
She's a good artist, she just chooses to revel in mediocrity because she makes more money that way because she knows that people will still eat shit like >>84310893 this up

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>>84313457
What is decent for a novice is not decent.

We do not exist in a world devoid of the highest competition.

If I am so far below someone as low as Henderson, I cannot be decent when the bar of what is good is so high.

>>84313372
It's art but it's no masterpiece. Just work on your lines. You don't have to chicken scratch your lines.

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It sucks that so many people on this board that like Squirrel Girl don't read her comic because of this stupid pigface/retard/shitty art meme because it's pretty darn enjoyable. It's a fucking comic book, lots of books have shitty art, and it isn't anywhere near as bad as you all make it out too be, it's silly, exaggerated and cartoonish and fits the book just fine, and because of it's popularity we all get "cute" squirrel girl in a bunch of other books.

>>84313640
That's not constructive.

You're just throwing out /ic/ buzzwords; how can I improve my lines?

>>84313767
Draw with your arm instead of your wrist.

>>84312797

>Genius takes many forms, but when it is evident, it is evident.

So what you really mean by your pretentious ramblings is "what I like is art and what I don't like isn't." Because that's what your definition of art.

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>>84313748
But comic books are 50% visuals. I'm not going to look through something with pictures if they look like ass. It's like playing a game with shit art but okay gameplay.

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>>84313767
Learn about lineweight and practice both traditionally and digitally. I still suck at it, but I still practice.

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>>84313438
>Implying Squirrel Girl isn't Tumblr as fuck.
>Implying this isn't her legitimate attempt at art.

Look at all her other shit, not just SG, this lady can't draw a face for her life. Pic related.

>>84313812

>But comic books are 50% visuals. I'm not going to look through something with pictures if they look like ass. It's like playing a game with shit art but okay gameplay.

Wouldn't that be more like playing a game with shit art but good gameplay?

>>84312965
Squirrel Girl sells terribly though

>>84313889
That's basically what I just said.

>>84313530
>And if that's not what it means, then I contend that that's what it should mean.

and that, is why you are a fucking moron.

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>>84313791
I do.

Mine's not the chicken scratch you're talking about. You're thinking of those people who draw segments of lines with their wrists like this

>>84313748

thats all well and good, but it's not going to make me pay for it, is it.

people buy what they personally enjoy, and it seems like the art in this stupid book is possibly whats holding it back, because its shitty.

>>84313812

and there are plenty of video games with shitty art that are super fun, that's a bad example. Like I said, the art is nowhere near as bad as you all make it out to be, it's just cartoony. There are a lot of books with worse art, like the crap with traced models.

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>>84313908
For having an opinion?

>>84313845
What sizes should I be drawing at on a digital canvas?

>>84313905

But there are tons of games with shitty graphics but good gameplay that are considered to be "classics".

>>84313748
The writing is worse than the art

/co/ is the reason house artists reign supreme is a thing

>>84313851

C'mon dude that image is fine.

>>84313986
>>84313998
Bad example I guess, but the real problem is the sameface. And an ugly face to reuse at that, you say cartoonish but everyone looks like they have downs.

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>>84313993
1024x768 is what I run now.

>>84314014

I guess if you don't like fun it is.

Or if you expect all your cape comics to be literary masterpieces which seems to be the case with most of /co/

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>>84313851
Erica art is truly horrific.

>>84310893
There is such thing as being able to like art without the delusion of thinking that it's "award worthy".

I don't get it either, but I'm always down to see how much you guys get your panties in a bunch over Henderson. She knows what she's doing. I'm entertained.

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>>84314047
>It looks fine.

>>84313767
But chicken scratch is a real phenomenon.
>>84313911
just practice drawing lines with your arm until your mind and muscles get used to the motion. Maybe try ghosting your lines

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>>84313812
>It's like playing a game with shit art but okay gameplay.

>there are people on /co/ right now who'd refuse to play games like GodHand

>>84314069
>>84313993

>1024x768

Shit. anything less than 5000x5000 is shit.

If you've got problems with line-weight and colors, it's most definitely because you're drawing way too fucking small.

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>>84314069
That's kind of small, isn't it?

I've been trying stuff on 15x11 or whatever A4 is.

My problem is that when I compress, I lose a lot of detail, because I like thin lines.

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>>84314051
at least it's not dillon face

>>84314083
Can you explain why it's good without using the phrase "it's fun" please

>>84314131
>there are people on /co/ right now who haven't even beaten the first Elvis fight

my undying shame.

>>84314175
At least Dillon can into backgrounds and action

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I like this Squirrel Girl. Why can't the comics be this squirrel girl?

>>84314051
If everyone looks like they have downs, than none of them do. get it

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>>84314149
>5000x5000
Calm down Dmitrys.
>>84314155
Canvas size and line weight aren't interchangeable. Lineweight is something you need technical mastery of, knowing when to apply thick lines to things that are "closer" to the viewer and vise versa. If your problem is compression, that's an entirely different animal.

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>>84314085
How the hell did she even get hired?

>>84314204

literally worst squirrel girl.

>>84314175
At least the Dillon face resembles a human face.

>>84314204
Because they know that you touch yourself to her.
And they wanted to give you a challenge.

>easy mode: sexualizing cute SG
>Dante must die: sexualizing Henderson SG

It actually not bad with a physical copy. The colors are really vibrant. But I guess if you obsess over the down's faces it still won't do anything for you.

>>84314181

Can you explain why it's bad without using the phrase "it's ugly" or "it sucks"? Protip: You can't. Because I like it, and nothing you say will make me or anyone not like it. That's what "subjective" means.

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>>84314238

Because she's a good artist.

It's just that her overall taste is down the shitter.

She could most definitely draw you a decent face with perfect proportions, and it shows even on her stylizations.

It just so happens to be that her stylizations are horrendous to look at.

Maybe if we strapped her to a chair and made her watch like 2 months worth of Anime and porn, she'd probably improve her shit taste significantly.

>>84314312
The proportions are all off, especially in the face. Not just for SG, for every single image she's ever drawn.

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>>84313530

>>84314126
>But chicken scratch is a real phenomenon.
Yeah, but I don't draw with my wrist, so the draw with your arm point is moot.

>Maybe try ghosting your lines
This is actually something like what I wanted.

>>84312999
ok scribblehatch

>>84314312
its hyper expressive to a point where it dettaches from any sense of realism and departs into an ape like caricature of the human form, making a woman that is not a model into someone that looks like a simian with raised lips flapping around incoherently with her emotions. This shows a great lack of ability in the artist to depict emotion in any believable form as the mouths eyes and expressions are drawn randomly into these simian figures.

TLDR its shit.

>>84313239

Anyone who finds McCloud definition of anything suitable and it's not himself it's considered a flaming faggot's asshole

>>84314312
She doesn't draw backgrounds 90% of the time, her grasp of anatomy is questionable at best, her panelling is amateurish, and her visual storytelling is stiff and unnatural

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>>84314216
Shut up, faglord.

I got good in 3 months just by upscaling everything to 5000x5000.

And you can too.

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>>84314483
Now post your art.

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>First few threads, absolutely everyone hated this
>Now it's 50/50

This is what happens when you keep shoving this shit down everyone's throats every single day.

>>84314408

You could say the same thing about a lot of Marvel's artists unfortunately.

>>84314542

>>absolutely everyone hated this

that's just not true, but the comic is pretty hit or miss, you either like it, or you don't, and we all know /co/ likes to bitch about the shit they don't like much more than they like to talk about things they enjoy.

>>84314542

>wah why isn't /co/ my own personal echo chamber

>>84311923
>tumblr speech style

why tho

>>84314348
>she's a good artist.
Sauce pref

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I was so stoked when this book was announced because we used to have great Squirrel Girl threads on /co/ all the time, and it got me to read all of her previous stuff and I became a big fan of Squirrel Girl, but then USG came out and it seemed like I was the only one here that enjoys it.

>>84314131
Always wanted to play that but being a poorfag couldn't get a ps2

>>84311421
hopefully you are trolling and not really this much of a pleb

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>not a huge comic person
>read some of this version of Squirrel Girl
>its genuinely awful from all angles
I've never before seen a comic that seems to have been drawn out of spite before.

The artist seems to have a fixation with drawing all the characters with these puckered lips. Every single face in this comic is like a stinging middle finger to my eyes.

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>>84314197
But Godhand looked great, fuck you dude.

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>>84310893
http://publishingperspectives.com/2016/01/no-women-for-comics-prize-incites-fury-in-france/#.V32z7_krK00

Remember that time when cucks were angry at the Oscar because there weren't any blacks nominees?

Remember that time when cucks were angry at some shit french prize because there weren't any women nominees?

This is the world you live in now, my friend. It doesn't matter how good one artist, actor or writer is. It all comes down to skin colour, gender and sexual orientation. That's progressivism for ya

>>84314998
Is that a trans black dude or a really ugly chick?

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>>84315101

>>84315101
The latter but I don't blame you for thinking the former. It's the hair, isn' it?

>>84315101
Ugly chick, but I wouldn't be surprised.

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>>84315169
I can tell that a girl due to slim shoulders and facial features. Does Eric not know how sexual dimorphism works?
>>84315186
>>84315214
It's the fucking jawline and the cheek bones, like Arsenio Hal in drag.

>>84315265

This is part of the reason my normy friends enjoy this book, Henderson doesn't draw every character as attractive.

>>84314542
Isn't this how bronies were made?

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>>84315345
>Every
try none.

>>84315265
She doesn't understand how the human body works.

>>84315345
>Henderson doesn't draw every character as attractive.

She doesn't even draw them fucking human.

>>84313851
>>84314085
>>84314238
>>84314361
>>84314998

Just fucking look.

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>>84315369
>>Squirrel Girl isn't a cutie.
>>Chipmunk Hunk isn't a hunk.

okay.

>>84314998

Don't forget progressives who work in the industry who will openly blacklist you for having "problematic" art in your portfolio to teach you a lesson in treating women right.

>>84310893
I can't tell if this is her Squirrel Girl or her Archie.

>>84315438

I see drawings of humans anon, are you blind? I get that you all don't like that art but be fucking reasonable.

>>84315482
They look pretty awful.

The art is bad bruh.

>>84315500
Show me one human being, just one, who has a similar facial structure.

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>>84315482
>>>Squirrel Girl isn't a cutie.
>>>Chipmunk Hunk isn't a hunk.

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>>84315560

dude it's a comic book, a comic book with a cartoon caricature style, it's not suppose to be realistic.

>>b-b-b-but she always draws like this

and that's why Marvel hired her to do art for this book and not there others, it's supposed to be wacky and cartoon looking.

>>84315674
There's a difference between being stylized and not knowing how to draw. If it was stylized she'd know how to draw properly, which she legitimately doesn't. Stylized artists should be hired for their skills while normal and stylized. What pisses me off about it is that there are so many other artists deserving of jobs and they pick someone like that.

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>>84315674
Captain America is a Giant Chicken!

A chicken I SAY!

>>84315748

But she does know how to draw.

Look, I get it, you guys don't like the art, that's fine, I am a huge fan of the book and I find the art to be pretty mediocre at best, but this whole "omg she can't draw for shit, its not even human" crap makes you all seem like the most pretentious motherfuckers.

It's an allegory for how ugly people can become accepted in today's society by being a popular, award-nominated comic with super ugly art

>>84315817
>But she does know how to draw.

Post proof.

>>84315877

we've got a thread full of proof anon.

>>84315976
There is not a single piece of good art submitted in this thread.

>>84312782
>>84312747
Why is anyone replying to this insufferable faggot?

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>>84313748
Are these anime distance shots?

>>84313560
>She's a good artist
No she fucking isn't, that's terrible artwork. It's barely webcomic quality.

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So did Erica draw this? It doesn't list any other artists on this issue.

>>84316345
Of course not, it's mainly lazy photoshopping of early 20th century artwork she found on google images.

>>84316405

I mean, pssh yeah obviously. Gosh she's such a hack.

Am I cool yet?

>>84316432
No, fuck off.

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/co/ has weird standards for art
i wonder how many complaints there'd be if she exclusively used this kinda face

>>84316545
Try it out, you sure can't get any worse.

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>>84314505
This is me 3 months ago. Notice the overall lack of polish.

>>84316545

They'd probably eat that shit up if the Gwenpool threads are any indicator.

>>84316545
It'll still be shit, but the waifu faggots would love it.

>>84316758
A larger canvas isn't going to magically fix your bad chicken scratch habit.

>>84310893
Fuck me.
I send samples and get rejected all the time.
Yet this garbage is considered worthy of an award.
I don't know who the be more disappointed with: the folks who like her art and nominated her or the editors who give her work.

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>>84316758
This is me literally one month later. Thanks to upscaling.

>>84315674
Comic or not, that art is garbage even by cartoon standards.

>>84316345
Shopped like a muthafucka

>>84310893
Next thing you know you're gonna tell me the Oscars are rigged...

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>>84316840
And this is a sketch I started 15 minutes ago. Compare with the same character at its side, done literally 2 months and a half ago.

With upscaling, everything is possible.

>>84314998

If you care about award shows in the first place you deserve everything bad that happens with them

>>84316823
Didn't Erica get work through nepotism? How good are you at networking?

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>>84315674
You can't just draw ugly shit and call that stylized. Also, your example is bad. It's intense and pops out and the expressions help convey the characters emotions, Squirrel girl is just bad linework, stupid looking expressions and plain boring coloring, it's worse than being bad, it's bland as fuck.
Of course it's fucking comics, just look at all of the things Mignola works on, shit's ugly but it's appealing because it uses the medium well. It's stuff that stays with you and inspires people, Squirrel Girl looks like a fucking amateur webcomic.
"my style" is the worst excuse for mediocre art.

>>84317015
>Didn't Erica get work through nepotism?

This would explain so much.

>>84317015
Pretty good.

>>84317005
What's wrong with rewarding a good job? It's rewarding shitty job because "muh affirmative action" and "muh oppression" that is wrong.

>>84317015
nepotism aside, her art in no way shap or form is palatable to garner any award or nominations. But Eisners are swayed by industry folks....

>>84317153

Do you actually get anything other than a trophy?

>>84317153
Nominating her for an art award is akin to awarding spastic for fecal art

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A daily reminder that this art is Eisner and Harvey nominated art in 2015

>>84317153

>doing art because you want an award

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>>84316840
holy shit, is that Hot-blooded Rival from Broquest?

>>84313851
reminds me of the priest from berserk

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>people are still falling for squirrel girl supporter bait

Not even the a freshly mowed lawn will match can match the smell of this much summer.

>>84313560
I'll give that it's better than her SG art, but this is still bland and terrible art...oh. Oh. I get it now. She's big because only snowflakes like her stuff. Niche bullshit.
Wow.
Way to fucking troll the industry Marvel.
Bravo.

>>84317197
>>84317236

If people like an artist's work and decides to award them for it, what's the issue? Everybody likes to be recognized , and more people can get to know their work through it.

>>84317216

Nobody is trying to defend her shitty job, family. Read the entire discussion

>>84317238
oh wow, Broquest!

>remembers Broquest's fate

oh....well now Im all depressed, dammit.

>>84317312
fucking this
like holy shit /co/, it's not even an opinion to say it'art, it's just plain fucking wrong, like saying the nu-PPG is better than the old. Jesus man

>>84317536
*good art
but it mine as well mean the former too

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>>84317233
>You'll never have your webcomics turned into a popular comic and animated series.
why live
just a couple of days more.

>>84317484

> what's the issue?

The issue is you throwing a shitfit over people you don't like getting nominated for a meaningless award.

>>84310893
WHY DO THEY ALL LOOK RETARDED HOLY FUCK!!!!

>>84312506
I'd hate to be that faggot, but art is about one of the loosest terms out there, technically, any form of work or produce can be considered art due to the argument of art being primarily, a form of "Self-expression." I don't think all artists should be clumped by one big bed-sheet term; that's why we have sub-genres of art.

>>84314085
Why does he look like a retarded Rohan from Jojo?

>>84319522
isn't that basically who jughead is

>>84312267
I bet you hate Frank Miller's art

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No wonder people trying to hop on a diversity train. You can get money and awards just for calling yourself SJW.

Why the fuck is this nominated. Does someone like the art , i don't

>>84312500
not him but, which are some examples of good less mainstream comic book analysis? I'm genuinely interested since a friend of mine that aspires to be a comic book writer loved that book and I'd like to provide him with better(or just different) reading material.

>>84311727
I like this panel because it lets you know that it's not just the squirrel girl characters that were made ugly to make them more relatable, but that this is actually just the style and that all characters drawn in this style are ugly beyond reason.

>>84320266
Fuck, I get what you mean. I know it's the trend now, and while Cap looks like he could be washing my car for spare change, I'm not going to complain about most of the characters, but you'd think at LEAST the fucking norse god would be handsome. He's a fucking norse god... norse PEOPLE are handsome by default.

>>84311923
It's perfectly fine to like garbage anon. I fap to bomb queen, but I'd be pissed if it got on the podium come awards time though.

>>84312602
So nowdays you cant post anime reaction pics anymore because some normalfag can get angry about it.

>>84312999
>This house looks like it's about to collapse, I don't want to be in it ever
>YEAH WELL LET'S SEE THE HOUSE YOU BUILT OH WAIT WE CAN'T BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T BUILD ONE

>>84319697
FM's art was experemental.
Hendersen is just a shitty artist.

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>>84314542
Pretending to like this pile of garbage is the easiest way to get replies because literally nobody on the planet legitimately enjoys it for any reason ever aside from the shitposting potential.

>>84317500
Shwig is a fucking faggot. Like many hacks, he deserves his fate of being stuck making nothing but mediocre porn for money.

>>84310893
garfield has better art

>>84311421
Nigga. I can't stand Allerd, but I can admit he has talent and he is much better than this shit

>>84311421
I will find you and gut you.

>>84312134
What "good vibes"?
It's all complete trite, not to mention the racism they somehow got away with in the whole monkey thing.

I could write a better feel good story about the junk in my desk.

>>84311727
When I first saw a picture of this Squirrel Girl and heard it was receiving a lot of criticism, I was ready to defend it. Yeah, her face is weird looking, but she looks like a squirrel and at least it's a deviation from the sameface that plagues comics.

But then I found out that every. Single. Character. Has that stupid fucking face and therefore it's pointless.

It's pandering bullshit and one day it will crumble to the ground the second that it accidentally triggers it's fanbase with trivial shit.

>>84314238
Nepotism

>>84315674
>OMG IT'S JUST A COMIC BOOK WHO CARES

Ah, the last resort when you have absolutely no legitimate defense of worthless shit

>>84315817
>Look, I get it, you guys don't like the art, that's fine

Look, I get it, you enjoy eating shit, that's fine.

>>84316545
>i wonder how many complaints there'd be if she exclusively used this kinda face

Plenty. That's shitty weeaboo sameface by somebody who bought a how-to-draw-manga book when they were a child and never progressed beyond that.

'Awards' don't matter anymore. They are being given not for talent, but for political correctness.

>>84310990
You should go to the confessional thread.
Repent your sins.

>>84316926
No replies when you posted actual progress. I'm not surprised. Keep working though.

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>>84313748
she dated a rescuebot

>>84313748
Ditto, I read the latest issue and whilst it's still not for me I could appreciate the humor.
Also: At least it ain't Hellcat or Mockingbird

I knew the Eisners had turned into garbage when Lumberjanes won two of them last year, even though that comic is painfully boring.

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>>84313748
Here is the real truth to that fucking debate bad art awesome writing vs awesome art terrible writing.

This only works on NEW material. I didn't care for homestucks art at first when I saw threads about it but I gave it a chance to read because I didn't know what to expect and I enjoyed it for that time haven't finished it yet that goes with most the webcomics I've read up to now.

This is squirrel girl we know her we ALL know her by now and we EXPECT a standard of ART and WRITING from a big company like Marvel.

The moment they decided to go with this style of art for a group of people who are not real is were they crossed the line. Normal fans are not going to respect there decisions just because what is hip.

Marvel and DC have forgotten what a comic is supposed to be about and it's about escape, escape from reality to read or watch a world filled with fun adventures, mystery, and wonder instead we get soap box heroes who are not them selves or made in a way to move a hot topic going on, unchanging quotas big events that mean so little and the loss of what makes a hero become what he is now or was.

>>84313748
I'd listen to a book on tape version

>>84314238
she meets deadlines

>>84323994
Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize for being black.
Then he expanded the military and sent more troops to every ongoing US war

Awards and prizes are meaningless. They exist to make the award-giver look good and legitimize the stupid shit of the receiver.

>>84311727
At least Ironic Man doesn't have that shitty face as far as we know.

Bad art exists.

I was skeptical of Erica's art, but when I started reading Squirrel Girl it won me over. It fits the whimsy of North's writing really well. When SQ appeared drawn more traditionally in Howard the Duck recently it felt really wrong.

>>84324579
The writing is worse than the art and that's saying something.
I'd usually say that taste is subjective but you have really fucking bad taste and should work on that.

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> /co/ hates North/Henderson's run of Squirrel Girl

Y'all niggas hate fun

>>84324025
>we EXPECT a standard of ART and WRITING
This. The art is shitty and because it's Marvel there's no real excuse, they could've gone with any number of better artists, but didn't. If it was independent then it's forgivable, but a big publisher has the pick of the litter, artistically.

>>84324661
It's not funny except if you're a post-ironic hipster piece of shit who thinks "Do ALL the science!" is equally hilarious.
Random access "humor" garbage.

>>84310893
It's the lips.

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>>84310893
>Ladies

>>84324025
>what a comic is supposed to be about and it's about escape, escape from reality to read or watch a world filled with fun adventures, mystery, and wonder

AKA the most boring shit imaginable

>>84311727
Why is there a second Squirrel Girl in the bottom-right?

>>84324644
>>84324711

Alright, well, sorry my enjoyment of this comic book is distressing to you. I'm going to keep enjoying it regardless.

>>84324779
You should be sorry AND ashamed for enjoying shit.
Keep it to yourself.

>>84324662
>a big publisher has the pick of the litter

You cannot be serious. Do you read many comic books? DC and Marvel each have maybe five really good artists and the rest are either mediocre House Style or just terrible.

And those really good artists get smart and jump to creator-owned projects.

>>84310893
Who are all those guys?

>>84310893
Wait, Bully got a comic adaptation?

>>84320028
Comics and Sequential Art by Will Eisner
Graphic Storytelling and Visual Narrative by Will Eisner
Reading Comics by Douglas Wolk
A Comics Studies Reader by Jeet Heer and others

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>>84324754
>Why is there a second Squirrel Girl in the bottom-right?

>>84312506
>Do you seriously think anyone who draws anything can rightfully be called an artist?
Yes, you dumb mother fucker. Drawing is the fucking BACKBONE of most art. Mostly every piece of art you see was drawn as a sketch before you got to see it. Drawings, paintings, sculpture, fuck even movies started out in the sketching process.

>>84313993
>shits on people for having opinions about art
>"b-b-but muh opinion"

>>84312541
Not that anon, but I'll do it on EUROPEAN EXTREME MODE:

I started out buying Squirrel Girl because it's the only voting Marvel gives a fuck about; dollars. I want Squirrel Girl books, and even though I didn't like the art style or direction, it was the only way to have a decent Squirrel Girl potentially come down the pipeline in this decade(with the fruits of our dollars coming with the relaunch of Great Lakes Avengers hopefully now that that's been confirmed)

I continue to actually read the book because despite the awful art and bad characterization, it is a conciously self-aware title that tries to practice what it's writers preach and is remarkably upbeat. 2015 Issue 1 is about defeating Kraven the Hunter with as little violence and civil disruption as possible as he's on his way to hunt Spiderman. This is an admirable feat of writing for what is intended to be a children's comic book.

The series is also meta-complex in tackling the conflicts of maintaining a vigilante secret-identity, actual cape fight content, and the repercussions thereof in short, self-contained stories. The action is light-hearted, considering her limited powerset (at one point she wears a suit of squirrels to conceal her identity), there's layered dialogue in having Tippy-Toe able to have complex conversations but only with her and other animals, and favor-trading; she doesn't command squirrels, she communicates with them and negotiates for their help.

There's also a great deal of fanservice.

Ultimately, the best comparison for Unbeatable Squirrel Girl would be Howard the Duck. You're reading it because it's offbeat but entertaining, true to its source material and previous work.

>>84310893
>Ladies
I don't even know what comic this is, but those ugly cavemen aren't "ladies"

>>84313530
You sound like the art historians at my art college. They often try to argue with us studio students about what constitutes art.

People who don't make art try to argue with us about what art is.

Question.
How is this Squirrel Girl comic even doing?

>>84328244
>>People who don't make art try to argue with us about what art is.

>only artists can know what art is
>only phone assembly workers can know what a phone is
>only janitors can know what garbage is

nice logic

>>84328210
>>84328210

The art is too painful to look at. Specially on the issue before last. I just cant tolerate it just like i normally can't tolerate Deodato/Land anymore.

>>84328980
Terribly

>>84310990
>I don't actually mind
the fact you used "I don't mind" was already a giveway.

>>84313560
>mediocrity
no this is genuine garbage stop trying to pull it up like that I saw you in other threads to the same thing. Shit is shit.

Dudes

I know the art is not the best when it comes to faces, but what about everything else?

Is it readable?

>>84331216
If you like hack webcomic humor sure.

>>84310893
She looks like red head Eminem

>>84314348
>Henderson got hired because she's a good artist and not because she had friends at ComicsAlliance and god knows where else

1-800-COME-ON-NOW

>>84324728
What do you imagine boring and none boring? Because you clearly listed what is good and bad there.

>>84327980
Movie storyboards are fundamentally comics

Remember that Henderson is good friends with Kate "I'm a huge batman fan but I don't read batman" Leth and Noelle "Comic shops are inherently sexist" Stevenson.

Steveson's entire career stems from a series of tumblr drawings of LotRs characters as hipsters.

HER ENTIRE FUCKING CAREER IS BECAUSE OF THAT.

>>84333576
And Noelle Steveson is a "special guest" at SDCC.

Not that SDCC is reputable in terms of comics anymore.

>>84310893
could you guys get over the "art is bad" meme already?

>>84326173
Thanks!

This is real? I thought this was bad fanart.

>>84331216
The writing is third tier lolrandom webcomic. It's better than the SG in the bendis/deodato, but that's not saying much.

>>84314998

That same conversation between two dudes would ignite an SJW shitstorm.

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Marvel thrives off the anger of everyone here. Every angry thread is another nickel in Marvel's accounts. They peddle clickbait in comic form, and you are falling for it hook, line, and sinker.

I know it's fun to get angry, but stop reminding people it exists. Stop repping it. It's time to stop. Just let people forget about it, and hope it dies a quiet death.

>>84337665
Really that makes no sense. People here aren't buying the comics. Hell you can just go websites these days and get the info/comics for free.

>>84337973
Do you think the people here just exist in a vacuum? That they don't talk to other people? What do you think "buzz" actually means?

>>84338115
I'm saying it's mostly moot when the information is already out there. It's far from marvel getting a deposit every time someone bad mouths some comic. Besides you not going to stop discussion.

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>>84338331
I know I'm just shouting into a frothing void, but just because shit exists doesn't mean you should pick it up and spread it around.

>>84338505
You get you coming to message board for comics and saying stop talking about comics, right? This is funny stuff.

>>84338632
>"stop talking about bad/controversial comics" means "stop talking about comics altogether"
Whatever you say, man. I feel the same way about PPG and the like, anyway.

>>84338687
Bad comics are subjective anon.

>>84310893
I'm actually fine with the art, minus the eyes, the eyes hit uncanny valley most of the time, everything else is fine in my opinion.

>>84313293
>bu bu bu but I intentionally draw them to look like fucking pigs

>they don't like me cause women

go back to drawing ya fucking garbage henderson

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>>84338771
How is that even relevant, when the threads are literally created to say, "Look how bad this comic is. Get mad!"?

No one is saying you're not allowed to think something is good. But all this rage-baiting does is help the things that people purport to hate.

Reminder that in the next ten years comic books will stop being about traditional superhero stories and instead be written by hipsters with political morals that listen to Sufjan Stevens and Ween.

>>84339062
>How is that even relevant, when the threads are literally created to say, "Look how bad this comic is.

That's op's opinion and is entitled to it. You're not going to find a forum that only talks about the things you like.

>>84339598
What's wrong with Ween?

>>84339901
I don't... what?

I'm not talking about what I like or don't like. I am saying people should stop putting the things THEY PERSONALLY HATE in the spotlight, because it has the complete opposite effect of what they want.

>>84339977
Whether or not op was negative/positive/neutral people would still post their opinions on the subject.

>>84339598
>Political morals
>Ween
I'm confused, it's only druggies and weirdo freaks that come here that listen to Ween

>>84339062
That picture really looks like shit.