CHAMPIONS

>>84306943
If only an actual artist was attached to it.

I'll read for best boys Sam and Teenclops

I can dig it

>>84306943

What's all this about? I haven't heard any news.

>No Vin in sight.
Oh no!

>>84306943
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH CHO IN THIS PIC??? IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S ABOUT TO MELT INTO A GREEN PUDDLE, WHY IS HE SO FUCKED UP LOOKING LMAO

>>84306943
>Waid, who has been mostly mediocre at Marvel
>Ramos, who is usually a pretty terrible artist

Think I'll skip out

>>84306943
Why does Cyclops look so young here? Aren't they all like high school age?

Is Cho going to be their mentor?

It's what i want.
The only thing that put me off it's that thing about "hitler cyclops". Fuck this. Cyclops was right.

>>84307084
its O5 Cyke

>>84307084
This is a time traveling teenage Cyclops

>>84307134
>>84307124
And O5 Scott is in his teens, like high school age.

Dude looks 11 in that cover

Can't wait to see them fight GamerGate and the villainous Strawman.

Or when they save a black kid from a group of white gang bangers. 'Cause that happens.

>>84306943
It sounds like everything I wanted ANAD Avengers to be. Too bad Ramos' shit art has to get in the way. Although I'll take him over modern Kubert.

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>>84306943
>Grandpa writing young team

It will be as hip as the new raven comic but at least Waid likes Cyclops and he is kinda figthing againts marvel editorial

>>84307113
Waid sounded like he like Scott so it was probably just a joke

>>84307183
This is a true concern though especially after the nonsense that was Waid's last teen team book ("eat it grandpa")

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>>84306943

I'm super excited.

We usually don't see Marvel take something positive that works and build on it.

I'll get it. Figured I need to pick up some more Marvel books since I'm so DC centric, along with a few of the smaller companies, and I really dig teen team books. Grabbin this when it comes out and gonna get back issues of Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur since I love Rocket Girl from Image.

>>84306943
>Waid
>Ramos
I just puked

>nu-waid

Nu thanks.

>>84306943
I have little hope but Viv is making me curious

>>84306943
oh good, vision's daughter survives

>>84306943

>High expectations
>Waid

???

>>84307052
Teen heroes going "fuck the Avengers" and starting their own team.

>>84307167
>Can't wait to see them fight GamerGate and the villainous Strawman.

It seems like you've got Strawman well in hand already, anon.

>>84306943
>Waid
I think it's shit

Which is unfortunate because that is a pretty good team

>modern Waid
>writing more teenage drama shit
>at Marvel
>with Ramos

...................................

>>84306943
>baby team for babies

Will they go the way of the New Warriors in Civil War 2? If not then I can care less.

Fuck that kid with the Deadpool shirt in the background, by the way.

>>84307308
I thought Cho was over 18

>>84307361
He's 19 I think. Still counts as a "young hero." He's definitely the oldest of the group though.

>>84307326
And yet you know it's true.

>>84307357
>then I can care less.
Tell the class how you could care less


And Deadpool is merchandising like crazy in 616 to pay for the Avengers shit

>>84307330
This.
I want them to be successful. They could be a really cool thing. But, eh.
Put me at cautiously optimistic.

>>84307381
It's probably more about the "fuck that shit" reaction to CW2, rather than age alone.

>>84307308
>the teen heroes are more mature than the adult ones

>>84306943
When did Waid become the designated teen book writer

>>84307422
Teen teams in the Marvelverse rarely go well. They either stagnate and disband or get fucked up hard and dissolve.

It's a death sentence, complete with Baby Cyclops leading them it seems.

That's why unless some REAL fucked up shit happens to them in Civil War 2 I can honestly care less to see teen cape arguments and angst for a good couple runs till they go off.

>>84306943
>Waid, the worst X-Men writer to ever live, the worst Legion writer ever
>Ramos, whose art gets worst every issue
>High Expectations

..okay...

>>84306943

Has Ramos been confirmed for the interior work, or is he just doing this cover? I mean usually you get a different cover artist and interior artist it seems...

>>84307922
Hope and pray.

>>84307563
Teen teams in Marvel don't get screwed over as badly as the Teen Titans or Young Justice members.

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>Fembot Vision

>>84308022
Where the fuck have you been

>>84308067
I mostly read DC.

>>84307987
I haven't read much of DC's teen books so I wouldn't know ;__;

>>84308151
you should read Vision, it's good

>>84306990
This tbqh

>>84308183
It's better this way

>>84306943
I kinda want it to be good. But I'm not getting my hopes up. Just please, let Kamala Miles Nova become BFF with decent personalities. PLEASE.

Waid should swallow his pride come back to DC. His husbando is already back and he clearly wants to write about them.

>>84307308
Are they going to shun Nova?

>>84307113
Cyclops fans have to be the biggest autists on /co/. Any hint of him being portrayed negatively and you start whining.

I'm hyped but I just hope that it will not ruin the dynamic of the friendship between kamala, sam and miles since they will now be amongst a group of teens instead of being close between them in an adult world
I want them to be friends with other teens but to keep this special bond they had

Wish they called them New Warriors and kept the name scheme going. Still better than any team with the words "Teen" or "Young" in it.

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>>84306943
>Mark Waid writing a team of teens
Oh absolutely not. This is gonna be Threeboot all over again.

>Eat it, Grandpa!
Ugh.

>Ramos on art
Ugh.

>>84307059
Just by having Viv alive is more than we could have hoped for.
So far there is a high chance of the whole family being killed off along with Victor.

>>84307381
This has been Cho's dream since Fear Itself when he kidnapped other teen heroes to fight shark people from Japan who wanted to attack Pearl Harbor.

>>84306943
>Don't care about most of the members on the team, hate the rest
>Don't like Waid's writing
>Ramos can't draw for shit
I don't expect much from this

>>84308950
Oh right, then it ended with Laura kicking him in the balls.

>>84306943
Brevoort called replied in an interview that, "the team's first mission is accepting Scott on the team. It's like inviting Kid Hitler to join. So they need to figure out he is not his older evil self."


AllofmyNope.jpg

>>84309066
That story is one of the few good things to come from Fear Itself.

>>84309109
>wanting a child terrorist on your team

Scott and Viv need to fuck so the Summers and Pym family trees can intertwine.

>>84306943
The line up looks like a pretty cool team but
>Waid and Ramos
I found Waid's ANAD Avengers to be boring and Ramos's art meh.


PASS

>>84309257
You madman.
With how crazy those family tress are, mixing the two would be too complex for even hardcore Hawkman fans to comprehend.

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>Waid
>Ramos
>possibly more Sam bullying

>>84309257
They already are intertwined. Janet had a kid with Alex.

Scott needs to get with Kamala and Sam needs to take Viv to prom. These are FACTS.

>>84309257
If Havok and Polaris had gotten married and Wanda and Pietro hadn't been retconned from being related to Magneto that could have happened years ago

>>84309257
>fuck
>gynoid
That's not how it works, man.
He can go fuck Nadia, though.

>>84309388
>Viv meets Sam's family
>It ends in complete disaster

>>84309388
>Sam needs to take Viv to prom.

More like Sam needs to work up the courage to ask Viv to prom only to walk in on Scott asking her to prom and she saying yes because S A M M U S T S U F F E R M O R E

>>84309109
>comparing a fictional character like Cyclops to a dictator that gassed Jews
Brevoort, you are fucking retarded.

>>84310319

I think he means in-universe Cyclops is about as popular AS Hitler, given that he went all bananers with the Phoenix Force power and ended up with literally everyone hating him.

>Viv
I mighty have a look at first few issues just to see what Waid do to her but probably will drop it later .

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>>84306943
>literally spoiling the finale of the best series you're publishing
Fucks sake, Marvel.

>>84310459
Not to be a /pol/lack, but it's likely that Scott is hated even more than Hitler, between all the Neo-Nazi organizations in America and the fact that, Hitler, for all his atrocities, didn't tamper with something powerful enough to glass the entire solar system.

>>84310596
All we know from this is that Viv lives

Nothing else

>>84306943
>Sam
>Cyclops
>Ms Tumblr
>Sam
>Miles
>Sam

Yeah I'll pass

>>84306943
I like the name.

>>84312003
And surprisingly adjective-free.

>>84312040

Adjectives are my favorite part of Marvel titles, though. I am not sure what you'd call this, though.

>>84312084
Independent Champions?
Revolutionary Champions?

>>84306943
Kid Hitler and the marvel PC Squad.

Wait, why is there a preteen Cyclops?

>>84312189
Waid apparently had to push for it, so he's there because Waid said so

>>84312189
time travel

Why is chulks traps and neck so fucking huge in comparison to the rest of his body

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I'd rather a team called "Champions" be made up of the group from Contest of Champions in all honesty.

>>84312293
Because Ramos can't draw

>>84306943
I like how every single hero there is a second rate version of the original one.

>>84312305
Good point. I could do with more Guillotine.
But you know, they must be running out of good names for teams.

>>84306943
Good line up, shit artist.

>>84307987
Titans rebirth issue was good. I'm hopeful for teen titans as well

>>84312189
Wasn't Jean Grey in college at the beginning of the new X-Men book?

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>>84306943
>RAMOS DRAWING MY KAMALA

>>84309932
That happened to teen Warren, he was gonna ask Jean for prom and he walked in on Jean making out with Scott

>>84312479
No one gives a shit about her. She's only good for turning people gay. That's her thing now.

>>84307011
This desu senpai

>>84310459
So cyclops is /pol/ the character?

>>84312528
Didn't Scott catch her about to make out with Beast or something too?

>>84306943
I'm looking forward to it, I was a big fan of Impulse years ago so if they can capture a bit of that, I'd be happy.

Also never thought the Vision kids would go beyond King's book so curious to see what happens there.

>>84312556
no Scott was right and /pol/ is almost always wrong

>>84312556
More like the mugga version of /pol/

>>84312563
I meant 1960 something in the silver age

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>>84312529
but shouldn't she be around the same age as Scott?

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>>84306943
I want Laura to show up and pop that Summers cherry

>>84306990
I honestly don't mind Ramos as much as everyone else seems to. I'm pretty excited about this, I just wish Wolverine (Laura) was on the team rather than. Teen Scott, she would have made more sense as an actual legacy character

Why bother, it's only going to get 12 issues anyway.

My prediction: Killer first issue, decent first arc, editorial event tie in, cancellation, relaunch as New Champions. Rinse, Repeat.

>>84312698
Laura is a cold blooded killer, I don't think she'll ever fit an activist team

>>84312305
>those untranslated symbols

It's all greek to me!

>>84306943
>we want the Teen Titans audience
Isn't that what The Warriors were?

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>>84306943
>girl vision shirt
everytime i see it, all i can think is jeans phoenix outfit..coincidence or do we have a new host?

>>84312646
If you're wondering why she isn't in the book, no Xmen were supposed to be. The only reason Scott is there is because Waid really wanted him. I imagined he probably had to battle Dennis Hopeless in hand to hand combat to get cyclops from all new xmen.

>>84312760
A good chunk of the warriors were well into their adult years.

>>84312646
I think it's just a bad cover art.

>>84312691
>wanting cyclops and wolverine to fug

SHIT, ALL OF KAMALA'S FANFICS ARE COMING TRUE

>>84312698
She wouldn't have fit. She's just female wolverine and that's not what the team is about.

>>84312769
Naw, she just can't triforce.

>>84312760
I don't read the Warriors but I doubt they had any legacy characters.

>>84312748
Eh, then need someone like her when stuff gets rough and dark. Besides, Cap tried to use that same argument against Logan joining the Avengers.

>>84312760
>>we want the Teen Titans audience

Teen Titans has an audience? Funny, you'd think their sales numbers would reflect that.

>>84312889
New Warriors had Sam.

>>84312851
>team filled ro the brim wuth legacy heroes or the children of various heroes
>Laura wouldn't fit because she's not considered Logan's kid or a legacy character as Wolverine

So, by this logic, Sam, Kamala, and Amadeus shouldn't be on the team either.

>>84306943
I don't recognize 3 of those heroes so could be good.

>the 2 chicks and the floating dude
>I don't read comics
>are they OC?

>>84307059
Uh, you should probably catch up on the last issue...

>>84312896
There hasn't been a teen titans book since new52 started. What's there is just the remains of a once awesome book.

>>84312955
Never read vision, but I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be his daughter
Other girl is Ms. Marvel. Muslim girl who writes fanfiction
Floating kid is Sam. Jeph Loeb's dead son.

>>84312895
You've got a hulk, a nova and a cyclops for doing the heavy lifting. Plus a vision that fills the wacko quota, actually Laura would be one of the weakest members of the team

>>84312946
I don't think you understood what I was implying. She wouldn't fit because of the type of person that she is. She's quick to kill, and slow to trust. Look at everyone on the cover. Besides their frown, they're a very optimistic group. That's what the book is about.

>>84312969
Let me hope he's alright ;_;

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>>84313125
>implying that All New Wolverine hasn't been all about hope and optimism
I do see your point though anon.

I demand a Scott becomes a woman arc...

>>84308771
>along with Victor

You leave him out of this! Victor did nothing wrong, and we're gonna get a Runaways reunion 2017.

>>84313661
I know jack shit about X-Men, why have people been talking about this?

>>84313661
It would ha e been nice if a teen version of Ruby survived Battleworld, then Teen Jean could have been her rival.

>>84313661
I fucking hate you

>>84313879
How could ruby be Jean's rival? Ruby's cyclops daughter
>>84313924
We've got a Trans wannabe over here
>>84313854
Trans Phoenix proposed it, I'd accept the idea for the lulz

>>84310759
Agatha Harkness confirmed to have cocked up and been tricked?

>>84312988
There were the teen titans and those young future heroes books

>>84313988
Jean would hate her because that means that's she doesn't get Scott in the end, instead Emma would, maybe I'm using the word 'rival' incorrectly

>>84314123
Yeah you're, also Rachel exists so... Plus Jeen isn't gunning for cyclops but for OML so nothing of value is lost.
Now if cyclops has a half robot daughter of the future hell would freeze

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>>84314222
Checked em. I really wish people would draw my requests in the /aco/ drawthreads involving OML and Teen Jean.

>>84314299
Just do it constantly, you'll get it eventually

>>84313852
Anon, Victor has been confirmed dead. He's 100% marked for death and there is no getting out.
I'm saying this as a fan of Avengers Academy, just be glad he's going to die in a good book and as a hero who saved the world.

>>84314496
how the hell did victor died?

>>84306943
>putting kid cyclops in this team
>probably to act like the boy scout leader that he was back in the xmen
I cant believe this shit. I hope they do another cyclops was right

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>>84306943
>Teen Heroes Book with no Avengers title

>>84314222
But, isn't Rachel's entire time line wiped out? Or has that been retconned since Claremont?

Is the writer of The Vision okay with marvel using Vision's daughter in a superhero team? Because I'm not.

>>84307167
>Or when they save a black kid from a group of white gang bangers. 'Cause that happens.

Well yeah, it happens all the time. How many black people need to be shot and brutalized by police for you to acknowledge this?

>>84315327
Does it matter if he's ok with it? He's DC exclusive anyway. Marvel needs to think of themselves, not a guy who turned his back on them professionally.

But writers know that characters they leave alive might get used elsewhere though. That's the point of the shared universe.

>>84313125
I wanna see Laura's understudy get rejected because she is just a minor with illegal firearms.

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>>84307166
>And O5 Scott is in his teens, like high school age.
This page takes place like a day before the O5 are brought to the present.

>>84315327
>made a brand new OC
>leaves the company the OC was created for
>OC gets placed into a new Teen Team book
Why would he get mad? If anything he should be flattered that Marvel wanted to keep Viv alive, and on a team of a bunch of popular characters.

>>84314856
All we know at this point is that he died a hero saving the world from Vision and not as "Victorious" who would kill the Avengers.

>>84314856
It hasn't happen yet.
But the narrator said he will, so he could drop dead any issue now.

Why is there a young Cyclops? What the hell is going on with Mary Jane? Why does Peter run a company now (not a complaint, seems cool)? What in the actual fuck is happening in the Iron Man comics? Is She-Hulk dead for real? Where is the Fantastic Four? When fighting Thanos, why didn't Carol bring more powerful people? What is going on with Steve Rogers? Is One More Day still a thing? Why is Gwenpool a thing? Have we seen anymore of Spider-Girl/Mayday/April/whoever the fuck it is now since Spiderverse? Is Aunt May still alive? DOES JONAH STILL WANT PICTURES OF SPIDER-MAN? And why am I a dumbass?

>twinkclops
Picked up.

>>84315959
>Why is there a young Cyclops?

Short version: Beast is a dumbass and should never ever be given access to a time machine.

>What the hell is going on with Mary Jane?
After her marriage to Peter Parker was BONG'D out of existence, she went more into modeling and is now dating Tony Stark.

>Why does Peter run a company now (not a complaint, seems cool)?
When Dr. Octopus took control of Peter's Body, he did a lot of different things with his abilities as Spider-Man and Peter Parker, and one of them was to create a technological corporation that now rivals Stark Industries. Now that Peter is back in control, he's dealing with the ramifications of having all these new responsibilities.

>What in the actual fuck is happening in the Iron Man comics?
FFFFUCK IF I KNOW

>>84307167
I'm sorry i am not seeing what point you are trying to make. And what does GaymerGate have to do with anything?

>>84315959
>Why is there a young Cyclops?
Time Displaced thanks to Beast disagreeing with present Scott
>What the hell is going on with Mary Jane?
She works for Tony Stark now and isn't featured in the majority of the Amazing Spider-Man comics
> Why does Peter run a company now (not a complaint, seems cool)?
Because of the result of Ock making him a better version of himself via Superior Spider-Man comics
>What in the actual fuck is happening in the Iron Man comics?
Bendis
Is She-Hulk dead for real?
Cape comic rules dictate she'll be dead / in a coma for at least a year our time, same with Rhodey
>Where is the Fantastic Four?
Rebuilding the Marvel Multiverse while Ben is off in space being written by Bendis and Jonny is fucking Medusa and on the Uncanny Avengers Unity Squad.
>When fighting Thanos, why didn't Carol bring more powerful people?
To further tge plot of a bad event, also see Bendis
>What is going on with Steve Rogers?
Crazy stuff, don't know, don't read Cap America comics.
> Is One More Day still a thing?
Yep, and it's slowly being undone in Spider-Man and Deadpool
> Why is Gwenpool a thing?
Popularity, surprisingly its a good comic despite the bad rep it has.
>Have we seen anymore of Spider-Girl/Mayday/April/whoever the fuck it is now since Spiderverse?
Mayday, and yes, she's one of the Spiders in Web Warriors.
> Is Aunt May still alive?
Yep, but she and her husband may be dying
>DOES JONAH STILL WANT PICTURES OF SPIDER-MAN?
Probably
> And why am I a dumbass?
You're not, you were just curious and had questions, nothing dumb about that.

>>84308608
>Still better than any team with the words "Teen" or "Young" in it.

Yeah i always hated when they did that.

>>84315959
5 original x-men from the past
Working for Tony
Doc Ock made it when he stole Pete's body
No clue
No
Making the multiverse
She brought plenty of powerful people. Other than like Thor, I can't think of anyone who would have helped more that they could contact.
Red Skull retconned him to be Hydra.
Yes.
Cause it was popular
Yes, Web Warriors
Yes
No, he's all over Silk now
You're on 4chan instead of doing something productive with your life.

>>84311802
>>Ms Tumblr

I don't see Squirrel Girl anywhere on that team

>>84316150
>Crazy stuff, don't know, don't read Cap America comics.

it's not that crazy, just cosmic cube bullshit

>>84315654
Flexible time, Scott is supposed to be from 1964 but now he's from the 90's

>>84312174
Not White=PC

>>84316150
That Mayday/April thing was because the latest issue of Spider-Girl I read was where I believe Mayday was killed and April took her place. Did anything happen after that?

>>84315327

He's the one who suggested it to the writer of champions in the first place.

>>84316238
>where I believe Mayday was killed and April took her place.

Fuck everything

Fuck me raw, why must being a Spider-Girl fan be suffering? We already lost the only universe where Peter and MJ were still happily married.

>>84316238
Nope, that version of Mayday and April were lost during the Time Runs Out lead up to Secret Wars. The version of Mayday we have now is Franklin and Reed's best attempts at getting her right. Needless to say, a lot of /co/mrads have a serious case of the "Not Muh" when it comes to Mayday. I'm happy about it either way.

Oh, and Ultimate Reed, The Marker, he's in 616 now and is the main villain for the AIMvengers

>>84316234
Flexible time only adjusts when the characters were around, not how old they were at events. If that page were in the 60s and said he was 22 then, flexible time would make it so that the events happened in the 90s and he was 22 then as well.

>>84312691
my nigga

>>84306943
>Spider-Nigger
>Mutie Scum
>Ching Chong Chulk
>Ms. Mudslime
>Retard Spic Nova
>A.I. monster

Not a single normal person on the team. Jesus Marvel, what are you doing?

>>84316637
Diversifying. Marvel actually thinks the ethnic audiences they're chasing and kids have a real interest in comics.

>>84312347
What? Kamala is way better than the original. So is Nova :^)

We still haven't learned what Cyclops did, right?

Yet they feel pretty confident that it's on par with Hitler.

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>>84312691

>>84316762
he did nothing wrong

>>84316750
>Jeph Loeb actually believes this

>>84316637
Muties are the übermensch of the MU /pol/. Hitler would be proud, they're even calling Cyclops Kid HItler