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Place your bets on Jasper's fate now folks.

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Place your bets on Jasper's fate now folks.
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>>84276312
Corrupted and Bubbled.
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Chained down and raped repeatedly by the townsfolk.
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>>84276377
Dubs. Also, where do I apply for citizenship to that town?
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I hope she's okay. Lapis gets showered with love and sympathy despite having done worse.
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>>84276429
Are you kidding? 4chan and Tumblr are filled with Jasper lovers
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>>84276312
she'll stay on the farm with the other two and get next to no screen time like them and only be seen for big events.
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>>84276502
And how will Steven convince her to do that?
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>>84276478
I think he means in canon.
But really the Gems are pretty quick to forgive and trust. So there's no reason to believe Jasper will be shunned unless she keeps being a dick.
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>alone at sea
>Yellowtail is fishing and pulls in Jasper, who after realizing she's stuck and genuinely uncomfortable with the water, proceeds to help Yellowtail to afford Jasper passage off the boat
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>>84276552
How did she end up at Sea? She fell into a lava pit.
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>Jasper's Corruption
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>>84276429
Difference between Lapis and Jasper is that Lapis has a tragic backstory to explain how she ended up the way she is. Anything about Jasper having a sad background is just theories and headcanons at this point.
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>>84276537
Ok that makes way more sense. Yeah I think Steven will try to empathize with her and try to smooth things over with her and Lapis
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>>84276583
The cold hard truth
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>>84276400
You just walk into Mayor Dewey's office and give him five bucks.
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>>84276478

For very different reasons.
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>>84276583
>>84276611
But she hasn't done worse than Peridot, she's only been "more successful" in that she got the Gems all the way off world before being foiled and Peridot was party to that.
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The mother of Steven's new half sibling.
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>>84276715
I mean you're right but that still isn't canonically giving people an incentive to become invested in her the way they want us to be invested in Lapis.

Also, she just hasn't had enough screen time. Her first appearance in months lasted all of ten seconds and she had no lines.
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The Watermelon Stevens will rescue Jasper and show her kindness. Which will melt Jasper's hate and anger. Allowing her to move to the Barn and be grouchy but non violent.
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>>84276552
alone at sea is probably just these 2 goofballs
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>>84276735
Once you go Quartz, there's nothing else for your Schwartz
>>84276768
She's a major threat, they definitely wanted to see her body fall in that pit. Similarly it not being dwelled on probably means she's not dead. She's definitely going to come back. I think the fact she's just out there is pretty decent incentive to become invested, I mean these people KNOW how this fandom gets. They get overinvested in bit characters with no reason to play a big part. They couldn't be dumb enough not to think people wouldn't start having wild theories about her.
>>84276824
>Jasper becomes Champion of the Watermelons
I'd like that.
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>>84276883
Nowhere did I deny that Jasper is coming back or that the crew doesn't want people to think or speculate about her, she's just not their top priority right now and all of this "well she deserves more sympathy than Lapis" stuff is, considering how much we know about Jasper, utter bullshit. Jasper fans have to stop turning this into a Lapis vs. Jasper thing because frankly they're on two different levels right now.
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>>84276966
Oh okay.
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>>84276883
Jasper goes into the lava and said lava goes to the center of the earth and that cluster.
Bad things happen and Jasper becomes the head of the cluster, cluster loses chance of becoming whole and the series ends with lots of end of eva-like scenarios/muck.
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>>84276966
You tell em.
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>>84276829
Remember how innocently On the Run started? It'll turn into then discovering Jasper and Steven trying to stop them from killing each other.
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>>84277314
It's kind of looks like On the Run Mk. II if you think about it.

>Steven and a gem away from the rest of CGs.
>On a mode of transportation that can take them far away in a short amount of time.
>Lighthearted at first.

Wouldn't be surprised if it had a massive tonal shift in the second half.
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>>84276429
Lapis put the ocean back eventually. And the fish were fine. The coral and seaweed probably wasn't
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>>84276312
Cracked gem which Steven will heal. She'll then grudgingly join the Crystal Gems because she owes Steven a life debt.


At some point the life debt will be repaid and she'll be poofed, but by then she will have grown to love Steven and regenerate with a star on her tits
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>>84276966
>all of this "well she deserves more sympathy than Lapis" stuff is, considering how much we know about Jasper, utter bullshit
Based on what we know, it makes sense.

Jasper's backstory is pretty easily inferred from Peridot - She's a typical Quartz who was raised from "birth" to be a loyal soldier. All she's done so far is what would be seen as the "right" thing to do on HW.

Lapis nearly made the Earth uninhabitable for purely selfish reasons, and tortured someone for months out of pure spite.
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>>84276583
>Tragic
Her backstory isn't tragic, its idiotic, which is kind of the point. Not blaming the people who put her in the mirror and instead blaming the ones who only had her in their possession for 2 decades is just dumb.
Plus, its obvious that she didn't give Steven the whole story, she was pretty vague on a lot of shit.
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>>84276532
They could run into her fighting Gem Mutants or Corrupted Gem Monsters who are attracted to an injured Gem and all alone. Steven would save her

And then there's the Rubies and other Homeworld Gems who are coming to blame her for the failed mission, she's a fugitive from Homeworld with no one to turn to right now.

And Steven has his dumb telepathic dream powers so he could end up in her head again and see her vulnerability
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>>84277437
Yes lets just gloss over Lapis's 1000s of years of trauma and fragile mental state. Nope she's just spiteful
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>>84277437
>Based on what we know, it makes sense.
In your opinion, maybe, but don't treat your theorizing as if it's: a. fact and b. has already happened in the show. Jasper fans literally get mad because a character who has a back story that can be interpreted as tragic gets more sympathy and attention than their favorite, who we know pretty much nothing about, doesn't.
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>>84276312
A season-long arc of disgrace and misery, followed by Steven forgiving her.
The Ruby squad will return and reveal they had actually come to *arrest* Jasper for illegal fusion.
Jasper will become partially corrupted, but cured with some modern gemtech before it's too late.
The newfound cure will explicitly not work on Centipeetle but have potential to be improved.
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>>84277509
She literally is. Being hurt does not excuse hurting people purely because you want to cause pain.

She knows what she's doing is wrong.
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>>84277571
>Being hurt does not excuse hurting people purely because you want to cause pain.
She only did this to Jasper, she legitimately disliked Peridot and had a right to express that.
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>>84276312
Gone forever.
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>Its just Lapis and Steven
>Alone at Sea
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>>84277601
Did she have the right to steal the ocean?
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>>84277640
Maybe Yellowtail and Sour Cream will be there.

We can get some more "Just let him be a DJ" stuff
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>>84277601
>C'mon, I only locked up and tortured ONE guy in my basement for six months!
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>>84277648
Did Jasper have the right to kidnap a small child?
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>>84277570
>still believing in "modern Homeworld hates mixed fusions" meme
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>>84276312
Corrupted, healed thru believin in steven, ends up being disillusioned about homeworld and joining the cg, eventual jaspearl endgame because pearl likes dem hulking quartzes and they both have a mutual boner for battlefield honour and glory
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>>84277687
She doesn't even know what a child is. As far as she knew, she was (non-lethally!) detaining an enemy combatant.
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>>84277648

I really doubt Lapis understood what removing the ocean meant for the biological creatures of earth

And probably didn't care that much desu
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>>84276829
why is this gif so slow?
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>>84277687
She was taking war criminal Rose Quartz to be judged by her leader
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>>84277648
I honestly thought we were talking about Lapis lashing out on a personal level and didn't think about the ocean thing.

That said, no, it wasn't right that she tried to steal the ocean and it wasn't right that she trapped Jasper (but for two different reasons in my opinion). But it's also really hard to look at what she went through and just dismiss it because she didn't apologize (who the hell is she going to apologize for for the ocean thing?) and because in a show that's about forgiveness and love, so far she's received both. Jasper fans really show their asses when they talk about Lapis.
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>>84277673
That's a strong word. It's not like a Saw movie.
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>>84277640
Don't worry anon, they'll run into Jaspers floating body, causing her and Steven to fight over what to do with her.
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>>84277724
>>84277770
>both sides pulling the "she didn't know any better!!" card
Maybe we're not so different, you and I.
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>YFW Jasper gets corrupted
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>>84277825
Jasperfags and Lapisfags are one in the same, you all should do what they did as Malachite, combine your hate into a powerful force.
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>>84277798
For months she literally kept Jasper chained up at the bottom of the ocean, using its weight to hold them down so that they couldn't even see light
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>>84277687
Steven's a pretty powerful combatant who exhibited the gem and powers of the enemy rebel general, so yes, Jasper absolutely did.
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>>84277840
Not corrupted enough to lose her voice since her VA is in the studio as much as the rest.
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>>84277773
because its the pace of the actual clip?
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>>84277825

>Both sides

I'm actually a jasperfag, just stating that lapis couldn't have known what stealing the ocean could do to life.

Still Jasper did something much less harmful and selfish. It's not like she understood Steven isn't Rose.
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>>84277904
I just thought it was funny sequence of comments.
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I'm starting to think Jasper and Lapis will reconcile long before their obsessive fan groups do
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>>84277938
Can't reconcile when Lapis is gonna commit suicide eventually.
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>>84277895
>YFW they're just recording her screaming and reversing them + slowing them down to produce corrupted Jasper's cries a la Evangelion.
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>>84277938
Probably.
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>>84277878
Yet Jasper still was on good enough terms to want to work with her against Alexandrite and even praised the concept of fusion
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>>84277996
Because at that point she gave up on escaping and decided to just try and take over, which apparently Lapis was able to keep a hold of until they ended up at Watermelon Island.
And Lapis was very willing to work with Jasper on killing the CG, they have that in common, you have to admit.
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>>84276312
Steven will somehow release Bismuth who is the next big bad that the Crystal Gems have to face.

Jasper is the only one strong enough to stand up to her (maybe Bismuth nullifies fusions)

They're forced to work together and over time the Crystal Gems and the Barn Gems all start to trust and accept her

Bismuth also gets a redemption arc
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>>84277938
It's possible because the crewniverse apparently loves Lapis and glosses over all the shit she's pulled because muh emo blue waifu.

I'd love it if they'd address what a massive cunt she's been, but noooo, she's pretty so she must be nice
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>>84277996
Lapis had been forced to concentrate and keep control for months. Gems may not need sleep but they do get tired

Lapis lost focus and Jasper took over once they started killing Watermelon Stevens
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>>84277996
But Lapis hates the CG too, she tried to turn Steven against them
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>>84278058
Almost every art involving her has her as a depressed, stick in the mud bitch, Rebecca has said that manipulation is a big part of her character, and Zuke has said that Lapis is selfish.
Trust me anon, shit is gonna go down with Lapis.
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Anyone else want to see other aliens in Steven Universe?

Obviously they must exist for the Gem Empire to need Clusters and bruisers like Jasper. They must be at war with somebody, and I'd like to see how Steven handles that shit.
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>>84278102
Sugar never said that, she said manipulation was a part of a previous character Lapis is based on.
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>>84278058
>I'd love it if they'd address what a massive cunt she's been, but noooo, she's pretty so she must be nice
I like how you're bitter about this when there's a 95% chance Jasper will get the same exact treatment, just switch 'pretty' with some other adjective describing her.

>the Gems will want to bubble her with Peridot and Lapis supporting their decision
>Steven yells NOOOOO like he always does, you're hearing it right now
>Jasper deserves a chance!
>Pearl and Garnet look at each other like they always do, Pearl shrugs like she always does
>for some reason they leave Steven alone with her
>Steven sings a quirky song, Jasper blushes
>episode ends with everyone sharing a laugh
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>>84278144
You do realize that it took a good amount of time for Peri to be redeemed and Lapis herself still has issues that need to be resolved. If a Jasper redemption happens, it'll take awhile.
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>>84278176
I wasn't trying to sum up her entire redemption. That shit's gonna be like trying to give a cat a bath.
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>>84278144
It might be more interesting if Steven is still afraid of her and it's Peridot and Amethyst who want to give her a chance
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>>84278176
Even still, a month from now will see Bismuth/Jaspers intire Redemption arc/Centipeedle/ potential homeworld invasion. Its all too much lads
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>>84276429
Lapis really hasn't done much except wreck the van and hurt Greg. But the whole ocean thing was just her trying to fuck off and she only fought the gems after being confronted. Perfit is the one who's done worse while getting showered with love and sympathy.
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>>84278232
Gotta build up a small army to take on Homeworld.
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>>84277464
>for 2 decades
Did Pearl or someone say that? I only remember Lapis speaking of how she was left behind at the galaxy warp for 'ages' before she was found.

And it's not dumb to blame the Crystal Gems instead of the Homeworld Gems. The Homeworld Gems made a mistake in confusing her for a Crystal Gem, while the Crystal Gems betrayed their species and caused the war that led to her being attacked and stuck on Earth.
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>>84276502
>and get next to no screen time like them and only be seen for big events

Those two are literally getting spotted in multiple scenarios in promos for the upcoming episodes. Stop with this meme.
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>>84278063
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>>84278144
>when there's a 95% chance Jasper will get the same exact treatment
I'd be bitter as fuck about that too since the potential storyline about addressing Jasper's past and the intense ideological conflict regarding her unquestioning loyalty to HW vs the respect for Rose /Steven and seeing their point is one of the things I hope to see most.

So if they just gloss over all that delicious character-building angst and go with some "lol baseball fart jokes she took Steven flying once she's one of the good guys now" tier bullshit arc for Jasper I shall be quite upset
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>>84278290
People noticed pretty quickly that Pearl was in her outfit that she has during Greg's flashbacks. So, Lapis most likely spent 20 years in Pearls head.
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>>84278193
Unless Steven saves her life or heals her, she won't switch sides
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>>84278313
>So if they just gloss over all that delicious character-building angst and go with some "lol baseball fart jokes she took Steven flying once she's one of the good guys now" tier bullshit arc for Jasper I shall be quite upset
They did that with Peridot, they're probably gonna do that with Jasper.
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>>84278253
>YD's fleet vs the Jasper, Peridot,Pearl, Steven, Connie, Cenitpeedle (emerald) Amethyst, Bismuth and Lapis
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>>84278329
Peridot had multiple episodes of learning that she's an idiot and improve her relationship with each Gem.
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>>84278329
GGRRAAAAAAH

I fear you might be right, but I'll still be all condensed salt crystals if/when that happens
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>>84278345
Why do people think Bismuth is going to finally be addressed in the show?
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>>84278345
Is Garnet kill?
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>>84278345
I'm expecting a general foot soldier at homeworld is fodder in comparison to Jasper, so I could a small team be able to take on an army.
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>>84278390
fuck me I knew I forgot the most important one
>>84278381
TCM website mate
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>>84278381
They teased her in that Lapis flashback

It might be a while before they address her. But they're laying the groundwork.
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>>84278374
I mean I'd chalk it up to they just don't have the time, especially considering Jasper will probably end up a peripheral CG the way Peridot (and probably Lapis will be) are. Even Lapis' tragic back story was summed up in about the span of twenty seconds.
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>>84278345
>Implying that they're not going to send the Gemyu Force first to scout things out.
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>>84278438
>What is Ruby Squad.
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>>84278397
It depends on how many Gem Warships Homeworld has in its Fleet. Just one of those was tough enough to take out most of them.

Maybe Peridot and Pearl could figure out how to hack them or build a better one
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>>84278424
Lapis gave a summary of her back story. There is still a lot of stuff that she left out, like why was she even on Earth, why didn't she try and talk with the CG in an attempt to get out, why is she still so loyal to HW after the shit they put her through?
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>>84278438
She already sent in the rubies, I would like to see some strong serious gems come to earth though.
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>>84278414
Thanks

>>84278421
Do we have confirmation that that was Bismuth? And why then is she in Lion?
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>>84278470
Well shoot. I guess once the Ruby Squad reports things back/YD notices that they're taking too long and that there's still no cluster, serious stuff's gonna go down.
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>>84278474
I'm predicting that YD will send in a small fleet and part of her army to earth, not the entire homeworld army.
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>>84278500
She was probably too uncontrollable so Rose was forced to put her down and never told the Crystal Gems what happened to her (which is why she wasn't bubbled in the Temple)
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>>84278500
People have guessed that its Bismuth due to the hair colors matching those that a bismuth makes, as well as the gem on her chest being angular as fuck.
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>>84278144
The difference is that while Jasper will actually progress from a villain to a hero, like Peridot, Lapis has never been considered anything but a perfect and hurt angel whose only flaw is being too pure for this world and whose worst act was breaking a tape recorder
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>>84278520
Interesting theory.

It's still weird that Steven never said 'oh hey guys there's a bubbled gem in Lion!'
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Daily reminder that lapis attempted to drown children
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>>84278574
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>>84278566
He doesn't like talking about his mom with the Gems and kept the Lion dimension secret for a surprisingly long time
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>>84278574
It's okay because she was under a lot of stress at the time!
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>>84278566
Steven subconsciously ignores it because Rose didn't want him to see it yet.
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>>84278560
That's not true. Lapis is my favourite and I know she's far from perfect and messed up in the head from trauma
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>>84278144
>Lapis tells Steven he's crazy for giving Jasper a chance when she tried to kill him
>"Didn't you do the same thing?"
>yfw
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>>84278574
Maybe she didn't know that humans can't breathe under water
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>>84278606
Meant in the show, obviously. Who gives a fuck about what the fandom thinks?
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>>84278574
Daily reminder that Peridot tried multiple times to hurt and kill Steven as well
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>>84278574
She has no concept of children or drowning.
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>>84278624
>it's a real Tweet
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>>84278632
But she knows fart noises
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>>84278591
Oh man this is good.
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In 6 weeks we would of likely witnessed
>New Peridot design (confirmed to be happening at supercon)
>Bismuth arc
>New fusions (One is likely Smokey Quartz from the TCM website)
>Centipeedle uncurrupted
>Jasper arc
>Homeworld invasion (season 3 finale shit)

>also episode 94, which made Stevens LA VA emotional
SDCC is coming up, they could literally show anything from this

Hiatus that follows
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>>84278632
>>84278646
>Fart noises.
>Flirting.
>Knows to hold water over a person's head to drown them.

Lapis really is lying about her backstory, isn't she? Or she was around humans for longer than she's letting on.
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>>84278695
Gems may have their own concept of flirting and relationships
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>>84278673
It was actually episode 93, which the leaked list indicated would be Monster Reunion or Alone at Sea, but we now know that the order's off.
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>>84278673
They're most likely gonna show a fusion, since that's whats happened at every SDCC so far.
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>>84278632
>She has no concept of children
Probably not, no
>or drowning.
But if this were the case why didn't she try the same tactic with Garnet, Amethyst or Pearl?
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>>84278695
But remember gems don't realize how fragile humans are. Peridot nearly murdered Greg by pushing him off a roof just for the hell of it
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>>84278632

if she didn't know putting a human's head in water would kill them then why did she do that to people she was trying to kill?
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>>84278715
Could be Greg the Babysitter, the flashback of when Rose has just died and Greg has to babysit baby Steven. We all know that'll be some emotional shit.
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>>84278818
>Dad baby sitting their own kid
That's called raising a child, anon.
It'll either be a flashback of Greg and maybe Rose and Amy babysitting toddler Sour Cream, or Greg and Steven watching Onion for a day.
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I hope Connie dies or goes on vacation or something, Steven needs to hang out with more people and FUSE WITH SOMEONE ELSE ALREADY STEVONNIE IS OLD AND BUSTED
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Lapis
>caused destruction and chaos all over the entire planet because she was emo
Peridot
>Attempted to kill the crystal gems because she has debilitating autism
Jasper
>Non-lethally subdued enemy combatants (one of which she respects greatly for her strength and tactics) and attempted to bring them back to their planet so they could receive justice for their crimes

>JASPER IS THE BAD GUY, UNREDEEMABLE
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>>84278866
Anon, we haven't seen Connie for awhile and Stevonnie has shown up twice, the second time being a cameo.
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>>84278855
Or maybe a flashback with Greg being a "babysitter" for the gems when Rose is away. Honestly there's a ton of possibilities for that one.
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>>84278867
Jasper isn't cute so anons won't forgive her as easily
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>>84278866

Steven will fuse with greg and create a fusion that will only show up in one episode because he's voiced by the late david bowie
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>>84278888
And I'm already over her

Steven should fuse with Lars for the funny
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>>84278867
She'd be hard to redeem though, she's extremely powerful and has is a long term enemy of the CG that likely fought them for thousands of years, her changing sides would have to be something big.
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>>84278916
>Greg and Steven fusion not being voiced by Jack Black
C'mon anon.
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Is Smokey Quartz going to be an Amethyst/Jasper fusion?
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>>84278900
4chan salives at the thought of Jasper so I'm pretty sure they've forgiven her. Jeez, Jasper fans have such a persecution complex.
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>>84278940

>she's extremely powerful

so is lapis

>is a long term enemy of the CG that likely fought them for thousands of years

peridot also hated the cg and was fed propaganda against them all her life
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>>84278965
Amethyst and Peridot, calling it
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>>84278967
>Jasper fan
Ew no
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>>84278980
Peridot literally didn't know what the Crystal Gems even were. Her hate towards them is because they were interrupting her work.
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>>84278867
They're all little shits, but at least Jasper and Peridot were never treated as innocent

>implying the laser Jasper used ordered Peridot to use on the beach was non-lethal
>implying they weren't going to get shattered once they arrived on Homeworld
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I really want Jasper to remain a villain. These redemption arcs do nothing but highlight how low quality the writing is.
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>>84278965
>>84278997
This
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>>84278980
The difference is that Lapis had a grudge on them simply because they didn't free her from the mirror and blames them for the war, Jasper is directly involved in the war and the opposing side. Even then Lapis isn't exactly friends with the CG yet, only Steven and to a degree Peridot now.
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>>84278965
You tell me. I'm personally seeing as something like one of the Shredders from Battleship when she fights a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZNpk6owt00
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>>84278867
Lapis
>emotionally wishy-washy gem of obscene power that only trusts steven currently but he is opening her to others. Also, her beef with the CGs is equal or lesser than her beef with Homeworld
Peridot
>Weak little shit that was willing to surrender to the enemy to save her own ass rather than see the mission through. Only issue with CGs was rumors she had heard of them and them breaking her shit before brainwashing her.
Jasper
>Strong, loyal quartz warrior that fought the CGs thousands of years ago and was in charge of the mission apparently meaning YD trusted her, and who will likely get corrupted/go down fighting rather than let these traitors talk their sweet nothings to her.

>NO GUYS, SHE'LL TOTALLY BE REDEEMED AND HAVE TEA PARTIES WITH STEVEN
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>>84278967
Or maybe you're the one giving more weight to pro-Jasper posts and thus thinking 4chan as a whole "salives (sic) at the thought of Jasper"?

Could go either way.
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>>84279026
Thank god. Jasper is far from the harmless muscle bro her fan club make her out to be.
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>>84279085
It's almost
ALMOST
as IF
one of the show's MAIN THEMES
is THAT
even BAD PEOPLE deserve
a second chance
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>>84279097
Every SU thread is filling with people going 'I want Jasper to squish me between her thighs' and other nonsense.
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>>84279179
All those posters are watermelons though.
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>>84279085
Lapis seemed pretty alright with HW as she told Steven her story, and she was getting ready to go back again until she realized she would be punished for fucking with Jasper.
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>>84279179
I want Garnet to squish me between her thighs, not Jasper
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>>84279085
YD event send a group of rubies to come and retrieve her, thinking the earth is still under cluster threat, Peridot is irrelevant.
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>>84279029
>redemption arcs are bad
>denying characters of progression is good
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>>84279270
>>84279179
Maybe we should have a Garnet+Jasper fusion, that way both parties will be happy.
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>>84279257
With Peridot and Pearl we saw that some Gems seem to have an innate longing for Homeworld for some reason. Maybe Lapis just missed home, she doesn't care about the leaders or anything.
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>>84279029
Steven's Gem Jesus so get used to it
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>>84279301
good writing = mediocre action show, clearly
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>>84279325
>Steven Universe is an action show
Ha ha ha.
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>>84276829
>Happy Lapis
This will end in tears.
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>>84279257
>>84279137
To put it simpler.
Peridot
>Weak & Easy enough to get to listen & forgive/ally with the CGs
Lapis
>Strong, but easy enough to get to listen (to Steven at least) & forgive/ally with the CGs (since her issue was more of them making the war happen then not letting her out, while Homeworld it was full on betrayal)
Jasper
>Strong & hard to get to listen & allying with the CGs whom she actively fought and probably crushed thousands of years ago.
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>>84279400
Lappy makes me happy.
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>>84279356
excellent reading comprehension
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>>84278315
I agree with the first part, but not with the second. We don't know anything about how long Pearl had that appearance, much less when during that stretch that she picked up the mirror (it could even have been after they met Greg). The closest things we have to benchmarks on that front are Pearl's appearance in the extended intro (when Steven sings the song he wrote), Pearl's appearance in The Answer, and her portrayal in the painting or picture from So Many Birthdays (with the latter possibly being a costume to pose in rather than her regular appearance).

So it could have been ten years, or five hundred, or more.
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>>84279469
Yeah, brah.
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>>84279433
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>>84279510
One of those should be laughing blushing lapis.
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Is this a Jasper thread or a Lapiss thread?
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>>84276312
she dead niggu
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>>84279573
And I should be doing something with my life but we can't always get what we want Anon
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>>84279594
Homeworld Gems general
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>>84279643
good
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>>84279643
Will we ever see her again?
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>>84279688
I want to see the Blue and Yellow Pearls fuse and fight CG Pearl
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>>84279688
Nope, she got transferred out to Gem Siberia for letting Peridot on the diamond line.
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>>84279688
best poil
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>>84279707
I want another wrestling episode, but this time in a Homeworld promotion.
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>>84279682
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>>84279746
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>>84277570
>come to *arrest* Jasper for illegal fusion.

how would homeworld know she fused?
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>>84277770
She knew what she was doing to Jasper.
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>>84279883
Here we go again.
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>>84279643
>>84279682
>>84279746
post more homeworld ot3 pls
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>>84279899
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>>84279888
I thought everyone agreed that Lapis was an idiot during the Malachite incident.
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>>84279951
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>>84278251
>Forgetting locking someone at the bottom of the ocean and torturing them for months nonstop
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>>84279964
Sweet Summer Child
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>>84279899
>>84279899
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>>84279975
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>>84278574
Daily reminder Peridot attempted to kill Steven multiple times and Jasper was ready to raze Beach City

They're called SITUATIONAL ANTAGONISTS for a reason.
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>>84279899
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>>84279085
>brainwashing

I love this meme
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>>84278867
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>>84280073
When you like/dislike character it's very, very easy to develop a bias.

>Lapis is LYING and is EVIL and she TRIED TO DROWN CHILDREN
>Jasper doesn't understand the concept of children! She was just following orders!

>Jasper is an irredeemable monster who just should just be shattered and thrown in the ocean because that's what she deserves
>Lapis didn't understand how important the ocean was to life on earth! She just wanted to go home!

This shit will never end.
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>>84279400
she deserves it
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>>84279085
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>>84280161
>tfw I like Lapis a lot but I'm not an inflamatory dumbass that needs to pick a fight against the Jasper fans and don't really mind her as a character one way or another and would like her to stay if possible just cause.

Life is pain.
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>>84280112
Yeah, apparently being nice to someone and helping them develop empathy is brainwashing!
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>>84279312
That fusion would be huge
>>84280264
Yes?
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>yfw all the gems are space milfs if you think about it
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>>84280298
Then it's the most positive brainwashing ever and more people need it.
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>>84280298
Probably not Malachite/Alexandrite huge, but maybe Sardonyx huge. Or Sugilite.

>>84280330
Stop
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>>84278574

Well everyone has almost killed Steven at least once
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>>84278058
I was actually surpirsed Steven diddn't shit on her when she broke the recorder. Especially when he knew of it's importance to Peridot.

He even said she would never come back but still stayed with Lapis. Bullshit!
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She dead y'all
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>>84280298
>That fusion would be huge
Indeed, that is kind of the point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQWFXdiezkY
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>>84280388
Has Steven ever gotten legitimately pissed off?
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>>84280362
...in the name of love
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>>84280380
>alternateuniverse.png
>soon to be canonuniverse.png hopefully :,^)
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>>84280414
When Lars talked shit about his mom.
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>>84280414

how about that one time after they visited the moon base, Peridot was trying to contact YD?
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>>84277996
I believe that at this point there minds were as melted together as they could in this hate fusion.

It started likes weeks back when Steven dreamwalked to them, so I assume that it's not Jasper speaking but a schizophrenic Malachite
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>>84280389
>>84280389
>>84280389
>>84280389
>>84280389
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>>84280414
Peridot contacting YD
Lars insulting his mom.
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>>84280389
>>84280484
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>>84280389
fuck you,anon
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>>84280507
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>>84280520
Enjoy
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>>84276312
she's going to fuse with the cluster and then steven will somehow make her not angry with muh friendships and then they all live happily ever after.
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>>84280560
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>>84280458
I would be mad and if my mom was Rose and someone talked shit about her
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>>84276312
Deep in the ground, probably a useful way to keep her out of the way for a while till they want use her. Maybe she'll talk to the cluster and try to get it to form. Ready for her to just shatter.
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>>84280380
more AU ideas
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>>84279838
Lapis told them. She was a spy all along.
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>>84276312
>>
this is not your average homeworld thread
this is
advanced homeworld thread
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>>84280816
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>>84280867
Can we just get rid of Jasper already?
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>>84280784
>That Jasper at the bottom.
Har.
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>>84280867
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>>84280910
no
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>>84280979
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>>84280810

sinister.
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>>84281027
>tmw peridot discovers the internet
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>>84280979

Jasper with a huge grin would much funnier.
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>>84279707
Blue Pearl's probably shattered by now.
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>>84279707

wouldn't 2 Pearl's fusing just make a bigger Pearl?
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>>84281118
She has that tablet for a reason anon
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>>84281141
Lapis is right
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>>84281135
Peridot would probably go insane if she found the vast ocean of porn that is the Internet.
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>>84281135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGEiRpO4bm4
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>>84281141
Pepperage farm remembers...
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>>84281141

either the forehead on lapis is too prominent or the hair need more volume at the front

Peridot's right arm is too thin compared to her left's
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>>84281185
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>>84281185
Especially the stuff featuring her
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>>84280650
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>>84281250

it was a free drawrequest from some time ago.

you get what you pay for.
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>>84277840
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>>84281185

she'd probably think the sex terms were describing tools and technology.
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>>84281185
But does any of the homeworld gems know what sex is?She would probably be really confused
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>>84278574
who gives a shit
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>>84281266
Kinky bastard
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>>84281374
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jasperedemption when
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>>84281399
As much as this makes my skin crawl I have seen GregxLion and that's some weird shit.
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>>84281299
Speaking of which, a drawfriend said that they'd make a few quick sketches last night and that they'd post them in the next big SU thread, but it's been a while now and they haven't posted anything. I wonder what happened, hope they're doing well.
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/10674292

Place your bets
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>>84281417
Never
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>>84281430
i don't believe in you
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>>84281450
What if she joins the gems AND gets corrupted and her and Peetle fuse to become a battle tank mount
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>>84281417
When the moon is full and the gem wolves howl in harmony.
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>>84281417
when i get a gf
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>>84276312
Greg's wife!
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Can someone post the picture of Steven looking for Lapis and he finds Greg and Greg introduces him to his new brother
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>>84281161
Yes but they're different colors and I want to see what happens

Do we get a green Pearl or a swirl?
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>>84277601
She also tried to drown the children
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There's one easy way to see if you're a Jasperfag
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>>84281570
wat
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>>84281597
Pretty much everyone has tried to kill Steven at this point.
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>>84280073
>Daily reminder Peridot attempted to kill Steven multiple times

Twice. Once on Jasper's orders and once in self defense.
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pedeexsteven art when
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>>84280362
At least Sugilite huge, maybe Alexandrite
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>>84278126
The diamonds are at war with eachother
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>>84281662
who?
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>>84281455
>>84281500
>>84281549

>not habeebing in steven
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>>84281669
It's the color war blue diamond, doesn't that mean anything to you?
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>>84281631

idk how to describe it but it's a murdercock joke because it's implied Steven's new brother is from Lapis
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>>84280784

What's with the random Pearl in the lower right corner?
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>>84281722
my autism prevents me from enjoying most if not any murdercock jokes desu
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>>84281722
Now i want to see it,too
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>>84280784
is that a lapis/jasper fusion that's not malachite?
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>>84281872
I think it's based on sugilite but with malachite's colors
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>>84281903
I like it
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What music genres do you guys think the Homeworld gems listen to?
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>>84281872
>>84281903
They develop a healthier relationship and Malachite stops looking like a Centaur and gets a more traditional bipedal form?
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>>84278916
If anyone would be Bowie it would be Rainbow V2
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>>84281753
Maybe in this AU, Pearl's a homeworld enemy?
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>>84281943
Various degrees of Electronica.
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>>84276312
jasper gets attacked by corrupted gem fusions in the mantle
she gets rescued by the drill
jasper convertions begins with her feeling ashamed/disgusted about homeworld experiments and then from there we go to redemption
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>>84281943
Peridot didn't know what music was until Steven showed her. No wonder the CGs left
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>>84276312
Vegeta
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So when can we have /sug/ again?
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>>84281943
>Jasper.
Speed metal almost exclusively.
>Peridot.
Pretty much anything electronic, secretly likes nursery rhymes and children's songs.
>Lapis.
Grunge, alternative, punk.
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>>84282047
>she listens to vocaloid all night along
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>>84282028
Jasper will be corrupted and Steven will rescue her. She'll stop being hostile to Crystal Gems due to feeling in debt to Steven.
Jasper will still have sympathies towards Homeworld though, and will also have part in Yellow Diamond's "redemption" later down the line.
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>>84281872
>Pearls Gem visable on her forehead
>Mix between both CG and Homeworld cloathing
>It even got Pearls fucking ribbon thing
>Lapis
It's almost adorible how stupid you are
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>>84282113
All SU threads eventually boil down to /sug/
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>>84281943
>Jasper
Speed Metal, Death Metal, secretly loves folk music and bluegrass
>Peridot
Anything Electronic or Techno, but especially Eurobeat.
>Lapis
Deepsound, alternative, grunge, ocean grunge.
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>>84276585

Unless Jasper breaks his innocence in more ways than one...
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>>84282242
anon no
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>>84282151
fuck you, there's no pearl gem

plus bare feet, faggot
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>>84281417
Next season probably.
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Anybody have that comic where peridot shows lapis her "sweet"?
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>>84282114
>Lapis and Jasper raid Greg's van for Records
>They see Peri already in there singing along to "If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands"
>Their faces when
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>>84282336
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>>84282320
Replace Jasper with Centipeedle and this would be an amazing mega man game
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>>84281943
What music genre do Diamonds listen to? Hypothetically.
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>>84282524
I don't know, but there's a neat thing with Yellow and Blue Diamonds' themes, where some kind of sound analysis where the audio makes a series of diamond shapes. I don't have the pictures on me, but an anon did it a few months ago.
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>>84282431
oh bloody hell I can see this happening
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>>84282524
YD's is probably eastern classical while YD prefers white noise or industrial sound to actual music
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>>84282673
>YD's is probably eastern classical
whoops, meant BD
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>>84282524
Marina and the Diamonds
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>>84279264
Sleep tight, Jasper
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>>84282524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wej3T1g3Y1U
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>>84278126
Obviously the Metal Empire.
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>>84282524
YD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSbljg7OcCU
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>>84281658
Actually 3 times. The first time she meets Steven she tries to squash him like he was some annoying fruitfly. And that's truly how she estimated him, like an insignificant creature bothering her during work. I mean what do most people do when a fruitfly bothers you during work? Squash it, because it's irrelevant and wasting your time

Now Peridot knows better. She literally says in When It Rains:
>"Yes, you're a much more intelligent creature than I initially thought."
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>>84278313
Burnett has said a few times that Jasper has a deep backstory and character that's going to be delved into soon.
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>>84282630
That does sound really cool, wish you had pics.
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>>84282932
All he said was that she's 'more complicated' than we think.
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>>84276478
Tumblr likes jasper?
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>>84282950
Actually managed to find it, thank you archives! Yellow Diamond's is a lot more obvious, but both themes somewhat match the shapes of their respective gems. Also explains why they're so abstract sounding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-29k5pmh-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAUa9i6Xri8
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>>84281872
Just to make sure, you realise that in your picture is a rather popular Pearl/Jasper fusion fanversion?
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>>84283113
You could shortly hear their themes too at the end of Lapis' flashback during SOW
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>>84283139
He was talking about the image he was replying to.
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>84282985
Where do think all these cheesecake pictures are coming from? Also they want her to be an adorable meathead apparently.
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>>84277666
I truly hope so, Satan. I love Sour Cream

>"I'M INVINCIBLE!"
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>>84280389
Pure accident anon.
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>>84281417
SOON
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>>84283174
In that case it's still Malachite just less hatefusion.

Just like Garnet at the beginning things first need to evolve between the two.

It's like half the people here never actually watched the show and just have all there knowlegde from sug threads
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>>84279264
Sleep Tight, Jasper
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>>84282524
If their themes are any indication, accordion drone
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>Pearls are referred to as a servant, one which is clearly considered a lower lifeform by homeworld gems, like a cat or a Roomba
>Pearls aren't created through geologic processes, but through the secretions of molluscs.

like pottery
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>>84278615
Then how did she know that would work and why did she split the ocean for steven?
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Has anyone drawn Jasper in Vegeta's famous pink shirt?
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>>84283458
If they have its not in my folder
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Jasper's underground adventure when?
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>>84283582
>Jaspertale
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>>84276377
Wait, the townsfolk of Beach City or Watermelon Island?
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>>84276312
She fused with the core and will control it
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Do you think any of the following will have been answered/explained/revealed at least partially by the end of the season

>Pearl's backstory
>Rose's backstory
>Bismuth
>Lion
>Pink Diamond
>orb on the moon base
>how corruption works

Of course a lot of them are probably related
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>>84279264
Sleep tight, Jasper
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>>84284913
We already know we're meeting a new gem, so bismuth will be answered. And Jasper's corruption got leaked, so we'll obviously learn the process.
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>>84284913
I think pretty much all of those to some degree, based on leaked titles. The least likely or least expounded upon will probably be Pearl's backstory, Rose's backstory, Lion, and Pink Diamond, because nothing indicates that we're going to learn a lot about them and they're all probably intertwined. I think we'll see the rest of the Pink Diamond mural in Back 2 the Moon though, along with the orb.
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>>84284913
Pearl's backstory is Rose's backstory. I'm more interested in her plan to kill Steven so she can resurrect Rose
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>>84285013

You can stop now
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>>84285013
How about no
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>>84284913
>Pearl's Backstory
Maybe, depends on how much/how Rose's story we get goes.
>Rose
Definately. At the very least it'll be some part of Pink Diamond's story.
>Bismuth
Maybe, maybe not. Nothing really seems to point to her appearing, but she did just pop out of nowhere in Lapis' flashback so who knows.
>Lion
Tossup. Probably not.
>Pink Diamond
Definately. As the Season finale. Or whenever they go back to the moon.
Her and the orb on the moon are going to be addressed in "Back 2 the Moon". Her when we finally see that mural and the orb will be the reason they went back.
>Corruption
Probably we'll get a bit more of it in Monster Reunion with Peridot weighing in on the topic after they explain the bubbled gems to her.
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>>84279264
Sleep tight, Jasper
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Please give me your predictions for the leaked:

>Smokey Quartz
>Jasper's Corruption

(They're both groupings of episodes)
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>>84276312
Hanging out with the murder dick. He becomes the Bulma to her Vegeta.
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>>84285347
Smoky Quartz is either the gem at the Beta Kindergarten, being White Diamond's Quartz, or is a fusion between Amethyst or Steven and most likely Peridot.
Jasper either gets wholly corrupted, or partially corrupted and brought back. Either way we're probably going to learn a lot about corruption if Monster Reunion does in fact involve Centipeetle.
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>>84282320
literal perfection.
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>>84285294
>Bismuth
>Nothing really seems to point to her appearing
We already got a leak for a marathon called "Bismuth"; she'll be showing up soon.
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>>84285429
>peri not a gemlet
gotta love how you can tell when some of this fanart came from based on the false assumptions throughout the series.
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>>84285470
????

I heard about the two mentioned here: >>84285347 but not about a Bismuth marathon. Source?

Please and thank you.
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I've been away awhile, post good fanart and memes I missed.
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>>84285584
The misseps thread post was updated and he added a Bismuth marathon. Check that for your source.
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>>84285632
Cool, thanks!
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>>84278251
> But the whole ocean thing was just her trying to fuck off and she only fought the gems after being confronted.

She tried to steal the source of life for pretty much every living thing on the planet and attempted to murder two children when they tried to stop her.

Sure she doesn't have a body count, but not for lack of trying.
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>>84285600
>asking for memes
C'mon son, this thread is clearly meant to stay on topic talking about Jasper.
I mean the Homeworld Gems.
I mean Steven Universe in general.
I mean memes.
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>>84277434
>star on her tits
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>>84279085
She not gonna be cute, she's gonna be like Piccolo or Vegeta. I pegged this from the start, the only problem I had was sperating her from Lapis, now thatthat's happned it's only a matter of time before she trys to challenge Steven solo.

Or trys to kidnap him, or any myriad of aggreaive things.
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>>84285928
If you think that's funny you should see the art OrangeKissess did of it
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>>84285347
>Smoky Quartz
Peridot and Amethyst fuse and the result is a massive piece of shit
It takes multiple episodes to deal with the clusterfuck they create
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>>84285644
No prob, Bob.
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>>84285600
How much is "a while"?
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Is the show back form hiatus yet? I been out of the loop because the mods keep deleting the fucking general.
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>>84286161
The 18th of July, 7pm. Every weekday until they run out of episodes.
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>>84286161
There's always /trash/, but to answer your question the show will come back the 18th with a Steven Blitzkrieg.
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>>84286161
We're getting new episodes every single weekday for over a month

Also;

Bismuth gon appear
Jasper gon get corrupted
New "smokey Quartz" gem
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>>84281618
Unf
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>>84286161
New episodes on the 18th starting, lasts until the rest of the season is over at least. If they air episodes every day for 4 weeks we end on Friday, the 12th of August, although it's supposed to last for "over a month" according to Matt. This makes me think that they might reduce episodes after the first week, possibly to 3 a week because which would end us on the 26th, or that they might be airing the first bit of season 4 too.

Or that Matt worded things wrong, but of course that's never happened before.
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>>84286283
Remember though that Sugar has said we're getting a new character in an episode this Fall. I think they're definitely going to slow down the pace until the episodes just trickle by each week, and save the last few episodes of the season for then.

Or they say fuck it and move the episode Rebecca was referring to this Summer of Steven thing.

Or the say DOUBLE fuck it and Season 4 starts in the Fall.
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∫7152/(date) d(date)
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>>84286365
If we had normal airings, which this bomb ALMOST corrects for, we'd be getting season 4 in the late-Summer/Fall anyway.
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>>84286376
I'm going to integrate mai waifu
But what is C?
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>>84286608
Well C can be anything but the joke only works if you assume it's 0
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>>84286709
Can you explain the joke for non-math people?
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>>84286956
Essentially ∫7152/(date) d(date) = log(date)*7152 + C
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>>84286956
>not being STEM
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>>84287203
That's an integral not a log base 10?
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>>84278374
Why is her visor broken already? Jasper hits her BEFORE Garnet breaks it.
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>>84287968
>base 10
>he's an engineer
Nigga the standard base is e and you can't tell me otherwise

Anyway ln(x) (which is the same as a base e log) is the antiderivative/indefinite integral of 1/x so ∫1/x dx = log x

∫7152/(date) d(date) =
7152∫1/(date) d(date) =
7152*log(date) + C
So log(date)*7152 + C
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>>84288089
>Jasper hits her BEFORE Garnet breaks it.
and after
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>>84285418
>Monster Reunion is a Jasper episode
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>>84288107
Oh I'm sorry, yeah
It's been almost a decade since AP Calculus, and I never actually used it in college since I scored out of Calculus II and straight into multivariable. It took me a while to properly process it too, if you're going to make a math joke then at least use an image so it is in a readable format.
I agree that the natural number is aesthetic as hell, btw.
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>>84288233
>There's more Centipeedle than Jasper
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>>84279264
Sleep tight, Jasper.
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>>84288410
>if you're going to make a math joke then at least use an image so it is in a readable format
Ehhhhhh it wasn't worth the effort
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>>84288107
how is log(x) not base 10? what is the purpose of ln(x) then?

the objectively better version is ∫7152/(ln10 * date) d(date)
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>>84288420
Imagine I had the technology to edit Steven Universe over the shield generator and Jasper over the snow speeder
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>>84281943
hey hank pym, mind posting an image that ISN'T for ants?
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>>84285347
is fusion between Peridot and Steven

http://www.parentherald.com/articles/51865/20160630/steven-universe-season-3-return-date-spoilers-peridot-fusion-confirmed.htm
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>>84288963
I'm thinking it's going to be Amethyst and Peridot that make smoky quartz
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>Corrupted
>Defeated and fixed by Steven's magic
I can see it now, got this show is so bland.
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>>84285347
Smoky Quartz is a fusion between Amethyst and her upcoming sister, Ty.
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>>84282113
after the talkback, same as it's ever been
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>>84276312
Honestly?

I hope for death. They could approach it in a lot of ways and I think it's something Steven needs to come to grasp with. He simply can't save everyone...

Realistically?

She'll be redeemed and Steven will save everyone.
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>>84276312
Lapis is best girl.
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>>84278360
We won't ever get anything like that again, that only happened because of Rebecca's own favortism.

Look at Lapis in comparison.
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>>84279050
>They weren't bad guys at all
>They were just trying to escape the war on their planet and make a home here and couldn't risk us trying to kill them before they set up their base
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>>84283139
I am glad that people were receptive to this fusion idea.
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Too Short To Ride confirmed on the 3rd day
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>>84277704
SCANDALOUS!
Pearl would never cuck Rose Quartz with her enemy commander
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you show's design is shite
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>>84277694
>believing in "modern Homeworld hates mixed fusions" meme

Peridot is a modern HW gem, peridot hated garnet for her fusion and making her uncomfortable.

Jasper belittled garnet for being a fusion so did peri.

You really need to stop your selective denial SU will push the race_mixing/Fusion_of_different_gems hate of HW who are portrayed to be evil for it.
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>>84286283
There's 5 weeks of episodes
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>>84295337
kind of frustrating that you cant access this page outside the US
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>>84278980

I don't give 2 shits about lapis and like jasper for her personality, however even I can understand that lapis is god level OP shit! While jasper is only a mildly muscular grunt.

Lapis is basically a gold level water-bender while what exactly can jasper do? Hit things with her downs syndrome helmet? Look muscular?

He guys here is this gem that can manipulate all the water on a planet and create water clones and water barriers VS this gem that has a helmet and hits things with her head, who will win?
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>>84295765
Jasper easily
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>>84295765
It takes time and concentration for Lapis Lazuli to manipulate an entire ocean of water.
She didn't do it immediately after she left Steven on that beach, it took her a few days

Plus it depends on where the fight takes place. If they did it at say the Strawberry Battlefield or the Desert, Lapis wouldn't have any way to defend herself

Plus Lapis isn't physically strong enough to escape Jasper's grip, so if Jasper can get close enough all she needs to do is squeeze until Lapis poofs. Or punch hard like Bismuth did.
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>>84295905
>Plus it depends on where the fight takes place. If they did it at say the Strawberry Battlefield or the Desert, Lapis wouldn't have any way to defend herself

True, Lapis is depended on her surroundings and this is why I named her a water bender since she is exactly like a water bender with the dependency and manipulation of water around her.

However this is extremely overpowered on earth (rivers, streams, oceans) and depending on what level of bullshit OP she will be write she might suck the water from the plants(strawberry's, grass) or humans (he he he fun times) to use for her water ability's.

Even without manipulation the entire planets water she is extremely overpowered and demolished the CG in a fight with summoning waves/hands.

She might not be physically strong however no other gem has these abilities or something equivalent like sand bending, or snow bending or acid bending.

There is no surprise that people think lapis is a diamond or something of this caliber.

She might have a non muscular body however I think her muscles are enough to beat down (physically no water bending), pearls (no surprise pearls are fuck toys not warriors), one peridot (technicians no surprise) and one or two non fused rubies (big shocker) they look like midgets who are easy to beat down.

No other gem has this level of power leveling, its not like they have something to compensate for this like sand bending or acid bending or helium bending from a strategic perspective lapis looks like some power gamer power leveling a character and minimizing the disadvantages while giving her extreme powers allowed for the points he can spend.
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>>84295625
Neither Peridot, nor Jasper hated Garnet specifically for being being a mixed fusion. None of the members of the Ruby Squad gave a fuck about Garnet being a mixed fusion either.

Accept it, mixed fusion is viewed same as the normal fusion in the modern Homeworld.
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>>84296048
>Neither Peridot,
LOL this level of selective amnesia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IOs4TlfLU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C67n_ZOw5JE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPgjP3VboIM

>"the permafusion" not insulting.

>nor Jasper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApWllX63gL0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67xFiC_O790

"this shameless display"

>hated Garnet specifically for being being a mixed fusion

Comment on my evidence boy.
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>>84295708
http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/shows/steven-universe/characters/index.html

click the header near the top
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>>84296043
She could only beat the Crystal Gems because she had an entire ocean of water to draw on for her water clones. If she had a more limited supply those clones probably wouldn't be able to reform themselves for as long and would eventually be taken down. Think of it like the final fight against Yokai in the Big Hero 6 movie. After you break enough of her constructs without more water to replace them, then eventually she'll run out.

We've seen Gem Monsters with similar elemental abilities like the Desert Glass and the Ice Cave monster. They're really lucky that the Desert Glass was trapped in a pillow and didn't have a form of her own.

And there's Steven/Rose's plant minions. The Watermelon Stevens reproduce on their own, grow basically overnight and were able to over power the individual Crystal Gems just due to their sheer numbers. They may not have done much to Malachite, but they'd probably hold their own against Lapis or Jasper individually.
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>>84296134
You have to understand that Homeworld views all fusions as a tool of war.

The word "permafusion" implies that Peridot is most unnerved by the fact that Garnet does not unfuse, not because she's a mixed fusion. Another nickname Peridot gave to Garnet was "warmachine", which implies by previous point.

And Jasper hates fusion because she's an arrogant warrior who views fusion as a cheap tactic. It was also implied in Super Watermelon Island that Jasper probably never or at very least barely ever fused before fusing with Lapis.
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>>84296216
>She could only beat the Crystal Gems because she had an entire ocean of water to draw on for her water clones

100% agree, on a sand planet or a planet full of liquid helium helium bending would be extremely powerful.

>We've seen Gem Monsters with similar elemental abilities like the Desert Glass and the Ice Cave monster. They're really lucky that the Desert Glass was trapped in a pillow and didn't have a form of her own.

And this brings us to my main question what can garnet or amethyst or rubies bend? Is it ice? Acid? Helium? Gold? It seams there are gems like lapis who can bend some element and this makes them extremely powerful is they are next to their element and hours who have absolutely nothing.

Lapis looks like a better combat gem then the rubies (who are retarded BTW) I bet she can beat up physically these midgets with no water.

Jasper has a lot more physical strength then lapis so she can win if there is no water however what is the point of rubies who are combat gems BTW?

They seam not to have any combat abilities like lapis and look like midgets to be kicked around.

Some of the gems like pearl have no combat abilities like lapis and I bet lapis can fight on the same level like pearls. The same with peridot.

This might be understandable if gems are specialized for a industry not D&D power gaming
Service = pearls
Technicians and repair = peridot
rubies = ??? warriors???

You don't expect a MP3 player to beat a military tank, however military gems like rubies are outclassed by lapis, what is the point of rubies? I get that jasper has more physical strength however what can rubies do?
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>>84282855
Metalic republic
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>>84296219
Man I need to find more clips however re-watch every episode with peridot to see her viewpoint on fusion, it changes with time.

Its quite obvious she comes form the angel "fusion between 2 different gems is immoral" she is shocked to see pearl and amethyst fuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KinPfKS5Dec

Its quite obvious that gems look on fusion the same way they did in the old days. Not because its associated with war.

You have a lot of creative conspiracy thinking that is coming out of nowhere.
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Post best gem
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>>84296398
No they are fighting other gems.

I bet all 4 diamonds are at war and every diamond has her own army.

Think like royalty in old times, you have European country like France, Germany, Spain, England fighting one another all the time with their own kings for one country.
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>>84296396
Rubies are completely disposable, there's tons of them. They're fusion fodder

Plus they have heat and fire abilities which likely increase when they're fused. One Ruby was able to evaporate an entire pool. Five fused Rubies could probably instantly vaporize any water constructs that Lapis can make.
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>>84296490
Or maybe she's shocked because she's not used to gems fusing so casually. Where do you think the nickname "warmachine" comes from, or why the Rubies always fuse when battle is hand?
Homeworld's view of the fusion is of a tool only used for war and Peridot's interaction directly reflect on it.
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>>84296595
>Homeworld's view of the fusion is of a tool only used for war
Yes and if its between 2 driftnet gems even in war its immoral.

Where are you getting this
>HW completely changed their views on fusion since garnet first fused together
angle from?
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>>84277840
>yfw it's written by shindol
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>>84276312
This
http://tiki-punch.tumblr.com/post/146643713085
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>>84281618

SOLD
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>>84296632
Mainly because, outside of The Answer, none of the Homeworld gems ever show direct prejudice towards mixed fusions.
Secondly, a lot of time has passed since the events of The Answer and Homeworld had changed a lot since then.
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>>84278126
Why haven't they been mentioned yet?
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>>84296728
Irrelevent.
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>>84296546
>Rubies are completely disposable, there's tons of them. They're fusion fodder

I have to question the logic of using quantity over quality I always preferred my armies to be smaller with more tanky units then zerg rushes of cheap crap.

However without seeing the cost benefit analysis of the economic viability of the use of QvQ including the military strategy in their space age war its hard to say.

>Five fused Rubies could probably instantly vaporize any water constructs that Lapis can make.

Hmm its not fail to use 5 fused rubies VS 1 lapis(I bet 5 un-fused lapises can shatter one jasper), how will this look if we have 5 fused rubies VS 5 fused lapises?

And now we are taking about the economic viability of manufacturing rubies VS manufacturing lapises, this is officially SU starcraft now.

I did not think about the evaporation angle and we need to see a a lapis VS ruby fight to understand this.

On the other hand all the consumer products/gems are useless pearls and peridots have no combat capability.

Another thing I started thinking about is that garnet lost both powers of her gems she can not freeze or boil water this suggest fusing with different kinds of gems weakens you if the ruby and sapphire episodes freeze and heat powers are canonical combat and not comedic in nature/impractical in real combat.
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>>84296736
Peridot at least would have mentioned them.
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>>84296755
Yeah your video games and real military forces are different.

For most of the things an army needs to do, you don't need good soldiers, you just need bodies with a base line level of competence. And that base line is not high.

I'm saying this as someone who's actually in the US army. We are not smart people. I mean, I am, and I hate everyone I work with, but infantry and engineers? Dumb as a fucking brick. Soldiers are trained to do one thing and one thing only because we need a lot of people doing that one thing.
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>>84296792
Irrelevent in the face of current events.
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>>84296708
We don't really know much about about HW or their views.

Outside from some generalities like
>they changed a lot

This is why I prefer video games where like in fallout you can ask a NPC
>What do you think about fusion HW gem?

Or actually see how they are structured in traditional media you get really unsatisfying scraps of information.

I'm not buying this angle you are simply trying to justify your fanon that is completely contrary to what is suggested in the show.

if this was a game I chose
>Is still fusion between 2 kind of gems immoral and or illegal on HW?

Dialog option to period or lapis, dam I really loved the crazy preacher in fallout3 you could really talk to him and actually ask what his exact beliefs are or ignore him for the background character he supposed to be.

Video games give a lot of detailing to their entire universe setting and all characters even the background ones.
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>>84296801
I mean let's put it this way.

You're beige diamond, you've just established a kindergarten on some godforsaken rock in the podunk sector. The threat of external invasion is low. But you still have the threat of insurrection or just something going wrong in general. So you still need guards. All day, every day and all over the place. These guards will likely spend 99.9% of their careers marching around in circles or sitting on their ass. You aren't going to waste a Jasper or Amethyst on that slot, you're going to put the cheapest most disposable soldiers you have there. Rubies. And as an added bonus, if shit DOES hit the fan, they can fuse and probably hold their own.

Another scenario: You've just invaded a planet with sapient but primitive beings. Your ideal area to start a kindergarten is inhabited by peaceful people. You could send in some rubies to wipe them out one at a time, or just flood the whole thing with a Lapis.
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>>84296846
oh really? video games a medium where it can take hundreds and hundreds of hours to fully complete the game and get on the content that is packed in it is able to be more detailed than a tv show stuck doing 15 minute episodes?

Wouldn't have guessed that
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>>84296801
>Yeah your video games and real military forces are different.

Not that different if you think about it (I'm talking strategy games not ZOMG LOL RPG crap) in strategy games you have to balance a economic army in real life this would translate to trying to give every soldier a personal tank its possible however extremely uneconomical, it costs a lot of money and all the enemy needs to do is get a $200 RPG on some Taliban and blow up your tank.

Without knowing the details of gem warfare its extremely hard to even ponder this.

outside of VG where every unit is equally important you have games where some units are simply not cost effective (2milin$ tank VS $200 RPG) and a wast of money like in C&C where some units are a wast of your money and you need to know this.
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>>84296895
I like your thinking.

>Rubies confirmed for mall cops
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>>84296755
Rubies probably easier to make than Quartzes.
Pearls are just for holding things.
Peridots are for tech engineering.
Lapis Lazulis and Sapphires seem rarer than other Gems, and happen to be more useful in specific situations.
Sending squadrons of Rubies for generic scouting missions is just more cost effective, and sending Jaspers, Peridots, Lapis Lazulis and Sapphires for specialized missions where their specific skills are needed.

Ruby's heat and Sapphire's cold powers combined to create Garnet's electricity powers. So it didn't weaken them so much as create a new power.
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>>84296985
Basically. The five rubies we saw were just a recon team. You don't need your best and brightest to do recon. You just need eyes and bodies. A sapphire would probably be better for the job but obviously they're not going to send a noble sapphire to do that.
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>>84296955
It's the same way in real life. You have units that are a waste of money and not cost effective. We call them the marines.
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>>84297084
The mission to Earth was also likely considered a suicide mission

Homeworld doesn't know when the Cluster will emerge they only expect to happen sometime soon, but they can't actually monitor it from off planet, that was the whole reason Peridot was sent in the first place,

Homeworld probably considered 5 Rubies no big loss if the Cluster happened to emerge while they were looking for Jasper, and obviously considered Jasper worth more than the 5 Rubies if they were willing to risk all of their lives just to get Jasper back
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>>84296902
>tv show stuck doing 10 minute episodes?
Fixed that for you.

>video games a medium where it can take hundreds and hundreds of hours to fully complete the game

Its not only that VG have more time you need to complete it (a lot of it is padding in the form of you fighting and not storyline) its the will to create detailed world VS TV where its a excuse background where the writers don't give 2 shits.

A better example would be a non game interactive move type of thing think fallout3 or Statecraft 2 where you remove the fighting and game part and can walk around and ask people (NPCs) questions between the action sequences of the main plot.

There was a will to put in these detail for this one crazy man who is talking crazy in the streets and is a background character.

I suggest that SU can have this level of background detail if they writers did give one shit about creating a good show. They can make one episode where the CG drop exposition about what HW is and what their believes on fusion VS CG views on fusion are.

And it take like 5 minutes, instead you are getting more pointless filer episodes full of crap.
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>>84297084
>Ruby's heat and Sapphire's cold powers combined to create Garnet's electricity powers. So it didn't weaken them so much as create a new power.

garnet has electricity powers when? And why did she not use it to fight lapis?
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>>84297136
I mean I think you are confusing us not being told something yet with there not being an answer

We just haven't gotten to all the details yet and I also feel that Homeworld's views on fusion are pretty obvious, that was the point of Peridot, she has changed but her first reactions and impressions were clearly suggestive of things about Homeworld and its society as Peridot rather clearly was fully indoctrinated by the Homeworld propaganda

There are also things like Garnet's line in the extended intro which suggests she wouldn't be allowed to be herself other places
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>>84276312
tragic death
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>>84297149
Garnet's used electricity a few times. She restarted that Arcade game after Steven's unplugged it. She restarted the battery in Greg's van so that they could receive Lapis' message. She's blocked lightning bolts from hitting Steven. And she was able to absorb the electric blast that Peridot charged into Amethyst's whip and send her own back at her.

Garnet's electricity powers don't seem to be very combat oriented, or at least not as useful in combat as her gauntlets and strength are.
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>>84297084
>Rubies probably easier to make than Quartzes.
1 Rubie = 100 minerals
1Quartz = 300 minerals + 200 gas
>Pearls are just for holding things.
>Peridots are for tech engineering.
Peridot = 100 minerals; is a worker unit
>Lapis Lazulis and Sapphires seem rarer than other Gems, and happen to be more useful in specific situations.
Lapis = 300 minerals + 300 gas; Special ability water control, situational

>Sending squadrons of Rubies for generic scouting missions is just more cost effective,
They see me scatting with my zerglings they envy my tactical thinking

>sending Jaspers, Peridots, Lapis Lazulis and Sapphires for specialized missions where their
specific skills are needed.

Jasper = zealot/fierbat
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Zealot
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Firebat

Peridot = Drone/stalker
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Drone
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Stalker

Lapis Lazulis = High Templar
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/High_templar

I completely agree with you if you know about starcraft you know how I put your thoughts into pictures.
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>>84278251
>Lapis really hasn't done much except wreck the van and hurt Greg
everyone hurts greg
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>>84276312
Corrupt, bubbled, redeemed, Jaspis, Complete Malachite.
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>>84297236
True I was talking to the anon who insists HW is 100% ok with mixed gem fusion and demands a fully write legal exposition by YD on this subject, something we will not see outset of video games where we can chose to make this conversation.
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>Started out as a Pearlfag
>Now a Jasperfag

Suffering from beginning to end
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>>84297285
workers that cost double what a normal worker does

Well Homeworld is screwed, no way their economy will ever be effective enough if there probes/drones/SCVs are double the normal cost
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>>84297311
Mate, something like "ew, a mixed fusion", would do just fine for me.
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>>84297376
>could you unfuse, it makes me extremely uncomfortable
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>>84297376
Peridot gave this with all her
>making me uncomfortable
>Permafusion

and Jasper with her
>This pathetic display

Its implied.
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>>84297398
No direct implication about mixed fusion, could be just as easily interpreted as being intimidated by a tool of war.
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>>84297419
Permafusion implied being unnerved by the fact that they refuse to fuse.

And again, no direct implication.
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>>84297426
so your argument is that something can be interpreted in more than one way, therefore our interpretation is wrong?

its probably both, she feels uncomfortable with mixed fusions because she was taught they were wrong and feels uncomfortable because she didn't realize Garnet just stays fused and thought that she was staying fused in order to be prepared to fight
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>>84297482
Considering the vague reasoning why Peridot is uncomfortable with Garnet, aside from the nicknames Warmachine and Permafusion, both reasonings have value, even though as of now I still stand by my own.
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>>84297419
>>84297467
*refuse to unfuse
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>>84297372
LOL not if their workers are more efficient and double for some fighting (think warcraft 3 ghoules http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Ghoul_%28Warcraft_III%29 ) peri can shot from the back while jasper fights in the front.

BTW I was pulling the numbers out of my ass with no reference to starcraft.

For those who don't know:

zerglings are cheap yet numerous great for scouting or a distraction in combat while zealot/fierbat are more tanky versions of the same front line units.

High Templar can massively wreck the battlefield by summoning a storm to damage/kill enemy units however they are squishy and have no offensive capabilities so even if a zergling gets to them they will be killed. HT also use up mana with storm summoning and after this they are helpless.
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>>84297246
Bro we've seen her VA in the studio on Twitter. She coming back.
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>>84281618
Source, please brother.
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>>84297372
>Well Homeworld is screwed, no way their economy will ever be effective enough if there probes/drones/SCVs are double the normal cost

Unless peridots don't harvest minerals (they have other units for this) they only are responsible for building buildings.

So you have 1/2/3 peridots in base and a crap tone of harvesting slaves, perodots exist to build buildings.
Its like saying zerg are screwed if they only have one building to build all their units, there are other mechanics to make this viable.
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>>84297673
Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress / Koutetsujou no Kabaneri

>two minutes in google
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>>84297840
>>84297587
>>84297285
>>84297372
>>84297084
>>84296985
>>84296895


Its official /sug/ agrees pearl and rubies are inferior foot soldiers and a sex doll.

Glade we got this out of the way.
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>>84297968
Thanks
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Jasper is going to be Vegeta mom mostly likely.
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>>84298632
refuse to use Steven's human name

always refers to him by his gem name Rose Quartz
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>>84280667
>Last panel
>ThePillarMen.mp3

>>84281943
>Jasper
Symphonic/goth metal, especially with female vocalists. Also a fondness for kpop (she likes the coordinated dance routines but if you press her she'll get embarrassed and yell at you about how fusion is a cheap tactic for making weak gems stronger before changing the subject rapidly)
>Lapis
Artsy indie-pop acts like PJ Harvey, Feist and Cat Power
>Peridot
Peridot listens to anything and everything but only one song at a time for weeks on end obsessively. Especially susceptible to anime ODs/EDs

>>84282775
>Marina and the Diamonds
Breddy gud :DDD
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>>84296511
That doesn't make sense. Why is the emblem of the diamond authority 4 diamonds aligned to form one diamond then?
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>>84298632
Lapis will become her Bulma

I mean they were pretty much hate-married already
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Steven uses the power of ~love~ and empathy to get to Jasper once they find her and she gets redeemed.
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>>84278141
You are wrong. Sugar said it is also a large part of Lapis' character (see: the MoCCA panel she held on YouTube)
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>>84298735
I hope she calls him 'quartz child'
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>>84300037
I'm expecting Little Rose
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>>84300056
That'll be good too.
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I kinda hope the show addressed how fucked up it was for Lapis to do what she did to Jasper. I don't really like the treatment of her as the most innocent of the Homeworld Gems when she's the opposite.
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>>84276312
jasper is never mentioned again
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>>84300518
Completely agree. I understand WHY she did it, and I don't think she's evil, but I sure as hell hope they don't just gloss over it and act like it was the right thing to do.
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