Homestuck

>Looks like Adrian/Chat Noir, including a cat theme
>Drinks constantly, becomes a peppy happy drunk
Dude I'd be so gay for a male Roxy.

Anyone got genderbent guardians?

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Genderbend John and Vriska and Homestuck becomes the best selling fujoshi series of all time

>>84272794
except for, you know, his super useful ability and portal gun

>>84272794
>sexually aggressive drunk twink hacker out hunting for boyfriend material
>not top tier

>>84272794
people love dave

>>84272794

I think you mean "Roxy would've broken up so many ships if she was a guy".

>>84272794
>Dave

>Homestuck, except the whole cast is genderswapped
>Tavris abuse backlash is so violent that Hussie ends up dropping Vriska's character entirely

>>84272794
i would
he's hotter that way

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Hello Friend I Am Back With A Revised God Tier Aesthetics Tier List

Outfit Design
>Elder God Tier
Sylph
Rogue
Lord
>God Tier
Knight
Seer
Witch
>Good Tier
Muse
Heir
Maid
Prince
Mage
>Meh Tier
Thief
>Bad Tier
Page
Bard

COLOR SCHEME
>Elder God Tier
Hope
Light
>God Tier
Time
Space
Mind
>Good Tier
Doom
Heart
Void
>Okay Tier
Breath
Life
Rage
Blood

SYMBOL
>Elder God Tier
Hope
Light
Mind
Void
>God Tier
Space
Heart
Time
>Good Tier
Doom
Breath
>Meh Tier
Life
Blood
>Bad Tier
Rage

>>84273479
FUCK OFF KANAYA NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR SHITTY OUTFITS GOD DAMN GO DO SOMETHING USEFUL WITH YOUR FUCKING LIFE FOR ONCE INSTEAD OF JUST SHITTING UP FUCKING EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY ELSE

>>84273562
Karkat That Was Very Rude
How Dare You
At Least I Am Not A Weenie

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>>84273562
Say That To My Face Not Online Fucker Well See What Happens

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>>84273562

>>84273587
:33< *ac crawls in despite being triple dead* You have a weenie in your pants.

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No roleplaying beyond this line!!!

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>>84273479
>>Elder God Tier
>Rogue
Fuck yes
now if just someone made a cool pic of the rogue outfit but NO WE JUST CANT HAVE THAT

>>84273647
>Rogue of Time
Neato, that's one of my OC's classpects. It is nice ain't it.

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WHAT DO MAGES DO

>>84273660
>Rogue of Time
What would that classpect even do?
Steal time from people and give it to other people?

>>84273670
Magic, duh.

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>It's a "Rose gets BTFO" episode

>>84273611
Yes But Unlike Karkats Mine Is Visible Without A Microscope

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>>84273670
GET FUCKED BY THEIR ASPECT IN EXCHANGE FOR GETTING TO SAVE YOUR FRIENDS

>>84273688
Yep, or stealing from Time itself. This could be applied in a bunch of ways.
>Delay pivotal events such as the Reckoning or a God Tier judgement
Pull items, whole areas, information, etc out of doomed timelines, possibly to stay permanently
>steal years off a foe's life and use them to extend another's
>mix up the sequence of events and place them at another point in time
>get lost in time/timelines i.e. Go Rogue

Lots of other shit too. They'd mostly be about delaying and managing time rather than stopping time or King Crimsoning it like a Pronce of Time would.

>>84273688
Crowd Control and speed buffs

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Post the saddest panels

>>84273688
[THE WORLD] my friend.

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>>84273762
it's sad because it's the start of a horrible journey that steals away your free will forever.

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DEAR TOBY

I WROTE YOU BUT YOU STILL AIN'T CALLING

I LEFT MY FACEBOOK, AIM, AND PESTERCHUM AT THE BOTTOM

I SENT YOU TWO MUSIC REQUESTS BACK IN MARCH, YOU MUST NOT HAVE GOT EM

THERE PROBABLY WAS A PROBLEM AT THE STEAM PAGE OR SOMETHING

SOMETIMES I MAKE MY STORY TOO SLOPPY WHEN I PLOT EM BUT FUCK IT WHAT'S BEEN UP MAN HOW'S YOUR WAIFU?

>>84273989
Does anyone actually still use the fanmade Pesterchum.

>>84273989
Go to bed, Eminem.

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Why the fuck are you still lurking hst?

The comic is over, the epilogue is going to be shit and your favorite character got shafted.

Fuck off.

>>84274007
I wonder if Hussie still uses his AIM

I think people would, but I'm weirdly androphobic, so I wouldn't be among them.

>>84274007
I still use it
I talk to my online friend every day with it

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>>84273989
Andrew? Andrew Hussie? Is that you?

Andrew, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you.

You failed at life. You failed. When one thinks of what man is capable of, pushing himself to the limits physically, mentally and emotionally to achieve heights of success never before mentioned, your name will not be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.

Nobody will remember Andrew Hussie. You aren't even a header or a footer in the career of someone else. You are nobody. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

In short, you are an enormous failure.

Andrew, being that you're about 35 years old and your brain has probably hard-wired itself to accept such failures by now and write off such criticism by being "flippant", really suggests that you've passed beyond the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.

The abhorrent failure that is MS Paint Comics, Andrew Hussie, that is your legacy.

Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, Andrew, and think long and hard about what a wasteful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how abysmal and pathetic I really AM!" Maybe you'll lift some weights in the morning. Maybe you'll take a self-help class.

Maybe in a couple of years, Andrew, you'll have learned from this failure. I doubt it, though.

I genuinely doubt it.

Now excuse me, I have to work on Undertale 2. My accountant estimates over sixty million dollars in sales.

>>84269003

To all the morning crew who missed it last night, I updated the threesome fic in the last thread.

>>84269998

Pretty sure you're right, then again, Dave's not really thinking straight at the moment.

>>84270311

Next smut fic, after this and my non-smut Windy Boy Ave fic, is Karkat with Porrim and Kanaya. Unless by "the fun", you mean Roxy's vagina (which I sure do), in which case not until the Orgystuck fic I'll make at some point.

I wonder if legal trouble and the death of Hussie's dad broke his spirit, or if he got bored of Homestuck and dropped it because he was just an idiot the whole time

>>84274015
>mfw one version of my favorite character didn't get shafted at all
Eh, could be worse.

i had a dream terezi wasn't real..

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>>84274015
>Why the fuck are you still lurking hst?
I don't have any friends.

>>84274015
Tbh I just started visiting for the end. A lot of the friends I talked with about it lost interest so I had to get my fix somewhere.

>>84274092
She isn't real. Welcome to the nightmare.

>Not making yourself a Terezi tulpa

>>84274142
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Aradia is real. She greets you when you die and gives you a complementary blowjob.

>>84274015
i havent really got anything better to do

also some pretty cool art gets posted sometimes

>>84274153
I've only seen one person who genuinely believes they have tulpas, and they're pretty unstable in the head.

>>84274153
I'd rather have a Latulpa

>>84274153
>>84274331
>>84274346
Whats a Tulpa?
Is it some a doll?

>>84274387
It's a sex act where you take a shit into your partner's ass and then they do the same back to you and it keeps going back and forth until you cum.

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>>84274331
Man I used to be part of a community that went through a Tulpa phase where like four users claimed to have gotten them and there was then drama about the Tulpas getting their own accounts.

Man we ran the gambit of every cancerous Internet fanbase. The remaining bunch of us are huge fucking Serbs now so I guess it keeps hapening

>>84274387
Think 'imaginary friend for delusional/schizophrenic adults'.

>>84274435
>Serbs
Well I meant weebs but close enough

>>84274431
>Not calling that a Double Doody Dildo

>>84274387
a tulpa is when a mentally ill person concentrates REALLY HARD on pretending their waifu or husbando is real
at one point they will reach a stage of delusion intense enough to hallucinate this character in the physical world
they then fool themselves into believing they're having imaginary sex with this character.

so basically, like multiple systems/fictionkin, but instead of roleplaying as if the character lives in their head, they pretend he or she is real (but only visible to them).

it's pretty sad.

>>84274346
>latulpa probably has a mitulpa because she's just as dependent on him as they are on her
;_;

>>84274525
D33P357 L0R3

I just saw Latula and her dancestor Terezi riding and molesting Cronus!

What a bunch of hungry sluts!

>>84274525
but we are the mituna

You have ten seconds

To name five weenies who redeemed themselves

>>84274678
Tavros
Jake
John (he was a weenie at the start of the comic, wasn't he?)
Uuuh
Ummm...

>>84273728
That's more of a Captor thing, or at least a doom thing.

>>84274753
You forgot Dave and Kanaya.

Is Vriska the Hillary Clinton of Homestuck?

>>84274753
>implying John was ever a weenie

>>84274990
no, that's feferi

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>>84272794
I'm missing the Jane from this set of pictures.

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>>84275047

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>>84274513
>instead of roleplaying as if the character lives in their head, they pretend he or she is real (but only visible to them

That's just an imaginary friend, isn't it? That's what children do when they're still learning how to socialize and empathize with other people. It's a healthy part of child development, but even little kids know it's not real it's a game. There was a whitepaper on this recently, I got to hear some of the interviews. The kids were really charming: they'd insist their imaginary friend is real, but if the adult interviewer was playing along a little too well, sometimes the kids would stop the interview to say "you know this is a game, right?"

Tulpas sound like a way for adults to act like infants, but even little kids know the difference between an imaginary friend and a real person.

>>84275149
The clear difference is mental illness in the adults which kids are highly unlikely to have, or certainly not anywhere near as strong or developed as the adults.

>>84274678
Neville Longbottom

>>84275149
I never had an imaginary friend, but I did have an imaginary car.

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>>84273587
>>84273611
ROLEPLAYERS FUCK OFF

>tfw Karkat is the only weenie left alive
*unzips 8ulge*

>>84275149
An imaginary friend is a game, a tulpa is a delusion. Simple as that.

>>84275149
>but even little kids know the difference between an imaginary friend and a real person.
Even the people who actually believe in tulpas know the difference between them and a physical person.

Keep in mind that the people you're speaking to aren't trying to give you an accurate description of the subject. They're offended by it and are trying to make sure you'll be as offended as they are. It's inadvisable to base your understanding of a subject on secondhand info from people who hate it with a passion.

>>84275499
Found the tulpafag

Go play with your fake person

>>84275516
I only need one mind to notice the obvious problems with your behavior.

>>84275499
Yeah, that's right. Anon could always check out tulpa communities and try to understand how deep the rabbit hole of cringe goes. :^D

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>>84275470
Is it a psychoci delusion, where their getting conflicting stimulus and perceiving the imaginary friend, or is it a neurotic delusion where they are asserting the imaginary friend's reality so strongly that they're distressed by the contrary (absence of) physical stimulus?

I keep posting Jake to be on-topic, but Jake's case isn't really the same. He might've had imaginary friends growing up alone on the island after his grandma died, like a ghostly version of someone he'd talk to in chat rooms, but his hope powers made this imaginary friend real enough to be actually seen and heard. I'd worry he was having a psychotic episode, but then other people could see Jake's imaginary friend too.

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>>84274015
Classpect speculations.
Once I understand classpects completely, I'm going to steal them and use for my own game.

>>84275633
>I keep posting Jake to be on-topic, but Jake's case isn't really the same.
It is. Brain Ghost Dirk is pretty much exactly how a tulpa works, at least according to the people who actually talk about them. The main difference is that it comes from magic instead of mental exercises.

>>84275644
:)

>>84274015
I just want whoever is doing these threads stop so i can move on.

>>84275644
>Completely understanding an incomplete concept
Don't forget anon, you're here forever.

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>>84275757
The only person keeping you here is you. You could leave. Or you could stay, and complain about how you can't leave, in the hopes that someone else will validate your discomfort.

>>84275644
Yeah, there won't be anyone left to play a SBURB fangame by the time I'm good enough to dev it
so instead I'm probably reusing a lot of Homestuck's concepts for my own games in the future

Hussie wasted so many good ideas, it's a fucking tragedy.

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>>84275784
Maybe I wasn't clear. I don't care much about the role classpects play in Homestuck, I just want a complete system that works on its own. If that means getting rid of some classes or adding some aspects, I'm totally okay with it.

I had forgotten Homestuck untill a week ago and watched the ending. Was that really it? Were others as disappointed by it as I was? Is this promised epilogue every going to really happen?

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>>84274015
but anon, my favorite character got everything he ever wanted and lived happily ever after

>>84272851
Second

>>84276013
Are there more diagrams like this?

>>84276295
I could probably make some at some point if i felt like it

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>>84276151
yes yes and no

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>>84276323
What do you think of this?

>>84276698
Heart is missing some shit bruh
Overral I think it's breddy gud

REMOVE VRISKA

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>>84276698
I think your handwriting sucks.
jk, thank you anon

>>84276698
life also has associations with flora and fauna, and breaking established rule systems.

heart has associations with emotions, i wager. take this one with a grain of salt.

rage definitely has associations with disbelief, as it's hope's opposite and hope governs belief, along some other stuff.

aside from that its breddy güd

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>>84275047

>>84276893
I'd remove Vriska. With my dick.

Seriously why does a smelly, nerdy, villainous cunt turn me on this much. I hate myself for wanting to fuck Vriska.

>>84277103
>breaking established rule systems
Thats for the witch part, not the aspect

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>>84277219

You have a Fujoshi fetish anon. The sooner you learn to accept it the better.

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>>84277219

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>>84274153
>tulpa
we're becoming /utg/

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>>84277544
;)

>>84277579
Hoo boy, I remember the tulpas. Is it still a thing there?

What was the point of introducing Sprite^2? It didn't do ANYTHING for the story.

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>>84277610
this is what i get for not shitposting properly
>>84277579

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>>84274459
Which Homestuck character is the accordion soldier?

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>>84277643
removve land dwweller

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>>84277620
I have no clue, I jumped ship back in mid-December. drawing for them was fun, but the threads were just shit

>>84277643
mituna

>>84277610
honestly frisk/chara would be cherubs

>>84273880
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

>>84277674
/utg/ was always a dumpster fire

I got into Undertale within three weeks or so of its release and /utg/ was already unbearable

>>84277674
Good thing you left, it has evolved into even more circlejerking
it's literally just /ksg/ now

>>84277674
i usually love /vg/ generals but when undertale came out and i visited those generals
it was already clear it was going to be fucking awful

>>84277465
>>84277544
Yeah, now that I think about it...I wouldn't mind having Nepeta rub her hairy, unwashed body on me either.

I have masochistic tendencies, and only a filthy, abusive nerd chick can fill that hole.
>Used to be in a Homestuck RP group on Skype where all the girls were abusive and aloof bitches, both IC and OOC
Actually, that shit was less fun when it involved real people. It was less "Oh man this is hot" and more "If we were near a staircase, I would've definitely kicked you down".

>>84277783
a more fitting description would be serketchan except less tripfagging
so not serketchan at all

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I haven't drawn in a couple of days, anyone have simple single character requests?

>>84277753
I checked it out a couple days ago, and it was very weird. I can understand why generals are a bad word on 4chan I guess.

>>84277824
>>84277753
woops

>>84276698
>freedom

>>84277862
Draw your fantroll in a cute outfit

>>84277103
>life also has associations with flora and fauna
That arguably falls under Growth (or between Growth and Life Force)

>>84277722
literally who

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>>84277862
this guy doesn't have as much art as i'd want him to, if you're feeling up to it.

>>84277626

wasting time until the ending

>>84277862
MORE ARABIA

>>84277643
D--> God is a Highb100d

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Karkat Help Me Why Did My Neo Pets Die Have I Not Fed Them Enough Please Answer

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>>84277995
>ImportAnt

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>>84277862
This guy carving a piece of wood with a knife.

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>>84277916
There's two, did you have a preference?

>>84277862
a simple Eridan *wwalkin* through a door. I need new hsg reaction images

>>84278064
Different anon
but the blue one
>That midriff

>>84278064
I was thinking of Leonot yeah

>>84277862
trizza as your favorite meme

>>84277862
smug lord english pepe
the shittier the better

TAVROS...SAVE...THE UNIVERSE...FROM THE...SERKET SWARM....

>>84278169
Like Tavros can do anything useful. Fuck Tavros, stupid s-s-stuttering fairy ass pussy bitch.

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Enough with the Karkat and Vriska roleplaying degeneracy

We must returns to the true ways of autistic HSG memes

>>84273670
WE DON'T KNOW
WE WILL NEVER KNOW
HACK
A
C
K

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>>84278221
I agrits 3 am here

>>84278221
Post more crossdressing Eridan, then we'll talk.

I want to see tight short jeans and tank tops, that delicious slut.

>>84278258
It literally isn't 3:00AM in any time zone

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>>84275149
>even little kids know the difference between an imaginary friend and a real person
You forgot about religious people.
(brb getting banned)

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>>84278268

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>>84275499
>They're offended by it and are trying to make sure you'll be as offended as they are.
This poster is wise.

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>>84277145
Thanks!

>>84278218
>amassed a huge ghost army
>useless

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>>84278281

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nice art, bigger than what I have.

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>>84278445

>>84277862
God tier aradia please

saw a preview build of hiveswap

if you like act 5 vriska, eridan, and caliborn you'll like this game

if you don't like smug cunts you won't like this game

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>>84278268
wwill wwe have celebratory cross-dressin characters next year? wwho knowws

>>84278497
that actually sounds pretty believable

>>84278497
>preview build

you wanna know how i know you're lying

>>84278497
one or two smug cunts are lovable but an entire game filled with smug cunts is tedious

so I suspect that even people who like vriska and caliborn may not like this game

>>84273398
hussie would most likely be dead at this point if that happened

>>84278064
God damn that purple blood's design is so damn cute, you have a gift Loki.

Hi, it's me, the headwriter of Hiveswap, El Twitter Man. A lot of people have some doubts about the project, but let me assure you that it's REAL GOOD. Trust me, it is going to be SO GOOD. I can't stress how GOOD it will be. Trust me. It's GOOD. Really.

And no, we will not show you any footage or give you any info about the game whatsoever. We already blew all your money on the 3D version, so we don't owe you anything on the 2D one.

>>84278809
>Purple
nigga thats CLEARLY blue

>>84278497
How prevalent were the smug cunts? One or two is fine if they're used in contrast to something, any more and it's a poison.

>>84278826
hiveswap's bad
it's bad
you know
and the whole world has to answer right now just to tell you once again it's bad

>>84278862
It's purple anon, unless this is some joke, which I don't really give two shits about. That or you're colour blind I guess.

>>84278512
>have
badge

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Fresh Glublands

>>84279076
i like this one. It could use more stuff, but the idea is cool

>>84279076
Why not just "webs"? Makes the name shorter.

>>84279183
losac vs lowac

>>84279088
Damn, these are all fantastic from Glub, but damn if this one is missing some falling meteors as a meeting of fire and sky,

>>84279215
Meteors are played out.

>>84278936
No it's blue, but the hue looks purple

>>84279238
Well when you think of fire and sky together, you get meteors. But I guess you could play with the idea a bit, tie it in with the whole quest of the land. Stopping the fire clouds from building up and causing a downpour, whatever form of release that may encompass. Seems like it'd make sense for a Breath player of some kind.

>>84278868
its you. the smug cunt is you

>>84279304
there's a smug cunt inside of all of us though we may wish for it to be the other way around

>>84279299
You'd be hard pressed to call any of the colours used as a deep blue, they're lighter and darker violet-purples.

Are there any Homestuck songs you could see playing in a movie classic? I'm talking like Once Upon a Time in the West OST tier.

(No songs like Sburban Jungle though. It's godly but it wouldn't fit in a movie.)

>>84279417
isn't A Taste for Adventure styled after movie soundtracks

>>84279410
This is Professor X's chair all over again

>>84279417
creata

>>84279417
>It's godly but it wouldn't fit in a movie.

logic like this is why film soundtracks are samey shit

>>84279417
Song of Skaia

>>84279474
Movie music has turned to shit.

What's the most recent movie theme you can remember? For me it's Pirates of the Caribbean

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>>84279048
>>84279061
>>84279076
>>84279088
>>84279098
>>84279115

Two cakes. Two cakes. Gotta remember two cakes. GOD DAMNIT THAT'S NICE WATER. Why can't I draw it that well?!

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I hurt myself today.

>>84279632
you CAN draw that well. you just have to apply yourself. it will take a lot of time and work, but you CAN do it.

drawabox.com

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>>84279699
>first page
>I also offer homework critiques through /r/ArtFundamentals on Reddit
wew lad

>>84279768
i hope that is a good reaction otherwise you're turning down free critiques because le reddit meme?

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>>84279768
site elitism is for 14 year old /b/tards, anon

stop this meme, and im not even a redditfag

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>>84279699
Fairly sure I already have the basics down. Need more practice to get Glub good though.

>>84279890
if that is your work you're well on the way!

>>84279890
i think you and glub have different styles that are both enjoyable - yours looks, to be fair, closer to MSPA style than Glub's, but lacks Glub's "polish", for lack of a better word.

>>84279864
Reddit is figuratively Reddit though.

>>84279988
I sure hope that wasn't dave's cape.

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>>84279830
>>84279864
oh man you guys

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>>84280013
no really, you can find some great subreddits like the one box guy shared

just remember to upvote

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>>84279967
>>84279929
Don't get me wrong, I know what I have is still pretty good, but as an artist I can't help but see how damn good some aspects of Glub's work really are. And of course I end up comparing myself to contemporaries because that's what happens, so TWO CAKES.

>>84279890
I much prefer these ones over Glubs, though both are exceptionally done. These one's are more fitting the actual Homestuck style; but I can see why people would look up the Glub's efforts in ones like >>84279061 which has beautiful background art and use of light.

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>>84280013
epik man you sure got us

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>>84272794
M!Roxy would be the perfect husbando
He'd be like a funny 'lax Dave but also more of a manchild.

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Homestuck where everything is the same but Caliborn is a girl

>>84272794
So if only the strilondes were swapped how would things play out?
Would male rose still hit on female dave?
would female dirk go for jane or jake still?
would John have weird friend boners over dave?

>>84280218
instead of being "evil" caliborn is portrayed as "misunderstood" and all of his misfortunes and the harsh childhood that drove him to violence are emphasized

you know, like vriska

>>84280218
>Lady English with huge tits
>She's shirtless too

>>84280271
oh holy shit

meanwhile boy calliope is laughed at as a stupid weenie who cares too much about dumb fictional stuff and will NEVER be allowed to be happy

you know like tavros

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>>84280040
>>84280050
you can't make this shit up

it's like i stepped into the twilight zone

>>84280242
Male Rose would definitely hit on female Dave, but Dave would be gagging for the John D by the time they meet up given their personalities mesh really well in a positive manner. Though that being said, if fem Dave is just as insecure as regular Dave then it's hard to say if they'd work in a relationship, if nothing else they'd be best friends with possible benefits.

Female Dirk would probably go for Jane, she fits the trophy desire but in a more traditional, homely wife manner.

>>84280417
>Dave would be gagging for the John D by the time they meet up given their personalities mesh really well in a positive manner. Though that being said, if fem Dave is just as insecure as regular Dave then it's hard to say if they'd work in a relationship, if nothing else they'd be best friends with possible benefits.

this is cute as hell does this make me a johndave shipper? oh no.

>>84280461
Just some pals being friends
playan vidya
givan platonic handies
cuddling and whispering 'no homo'
just buddies being guys ya know

>>84280461
Well they can do most of that as best friends, that's the fallacy of shipping in that characters can be close without being in a romantic relationship. John and Dave are bros, bros with good chemistry and most people who like the comic likely enjoy their dynamic just as people enjoyed Rose and Dave's barbed interactions despite their obvious friendship.

But if Dave sorted his shit out and somehow sexual attraction appeared then I guess you could support it with solid reasoning. Bit of a stretch though, some characters just work better as friends in my mind.

second and last shill.

http://pastebin.com/1GZdC9b1 Trans lalonde au. mostly canon-compliant; strilonde bantz.

>>84280590
Girl dave and john at least makes more sense than davekat does

>Tavros is literally girl Calliope but with no one to stick up for him
>Vriska is more or less male Caliborn except almost worse

Holy shit how come I didn't notice this sooner

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>>84280331
listen here u lil shit

i bent u aint even watched a single episode of the twilight zone

fem dave is literally just roxy that doesn't femflirt

>>84276698
Why does ever aspect point outwards? There should be passive and active aspects, with passive ones having their manifestations pointing 'towards' the aspect.

>>84280772
...no?

>>84280617
they both have the same problem in that most of the development is based on interactions that could be mistaken for simple friendship and/or rivalry instead of intimacy, affection, and romance

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>>84279632
>WATER
a quick tip for whoever is interested

>>84280617
Well yeah, but it's somewhat similar and has parallels with the whole, they work just fine as best bros thing. John and Dave are more positive in their interactions and for humans positivity in romantic partners is rather important for sustainable relationships. Then you add in the big fact that John's only into girls and yeah it only really works when Dave's a girl.

Dave and Karkat work perfectly fine as bros with a slight rivalry or antagonism in their interactions, but both clearly caring deeply about each other, similar to Dave and John in that latter regard. The difference being John has shown Dave already how capable he is, so he doesn't have to be as worried about the guy, Karkat on the other hand is still weenie central. The problem is they both have such massive personal issues that their verbal bouts could quickly turn sour, the same thing would likely happen if one of them was female as well just to move past that whole stigma.

>>84280786
>Classpectanon
lmao look at this dude

>>84280744
But anon, at least Tavros did something of his own volition

>>84280836
the arrows are organizational, you fucknut, they're to point to things to indicate a connection.

besides, what the fuck does that actually mean, active and passive aspects? no support for the idea in canon and it doesn't even make sense.

eat my ass. you baited me good

>>84280900
I wasn't even that guy desu

>>84280744
I'd say Tavros is much less intelligent that Calliope, but they are strikingly similar. I heard a fitting description of Tavros's shortcomings from someone who was writing a story with him in and commenting on how to write the guy. They stated that Tavros is easy to write for as you just have him respond with the worst possible thing someone could say in a specific situation, then add some um's and uh's in that. Calliope at least attempts to be helpful, if a bit vague.

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>>84280800
Thanks man, I know about the Fresnel effect for the reflections and stuff but getting those ripples to look natural isn't as easy as it looks. You're obviously had plenty more practice than me.

>>84280897
poor Dave

>>84280772
What? No!
Why do you say there sould be passive and active aspects?

>>84280923
Tavros is certainly not as educated as Calliope, and he definitely says some really stupid crap every now and then. But he's got some noticeable emotional/social intelligence and a strong sense of right and wrong that he does actually act on.
To reduce him to "just write the worst possible response" doesn't do the character justice. No wonder he's always written like shit in fics.

>>84281042
>gets to be fucked by Jade
I'd say he's got a lot to be happy about

>>84279864
me on the left

>>84281234
Tavros was the ONLY one to give a shit about other people to the point he'd charge into a fight without regard for his own sake.

>TFW Jade picked Davesprite over Dave because he's a furry birdman.

>>84281333
>not because he was the only dave around and she's a desperate stridersexual slut who would have even fucked Dirk if there were no other options

>>84281349
>Implying she wouldn't take bird dick over human dick any day of the week.

>>84280610
Might want to link it from /aco/ in the future even if it's not smut, sharing fics here can get your posts deleted, or worse

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FUCKING HUSSIE.

>>84281384
>not dressing up Dave in cat ears and taking his barbs

>>84281447
>Implying that Jade would take role-playing over borderline bestiality.

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WHO WANTS TO TUSCLE WITH MUSCLE ERIDAN

>>84281234
Oh no I didn't intend to reduce him to just that, was merely an add on that sprung to mind given the subject matter. One of the key things with Tavros throughout the story is that he tries to do things he feels is right, he just falters when people confront him and his process, similar to Jake really. I was sad we didn't get more time between the two to help round out the scraps of what Jake's arc ended up as.

Tavros has always had that ability to get people behind him, even his primary antagonist in the form of Vriska wanted to hang out and interact with the guy. Again there's similarities with John in that regard, another character who could have been interesting to see interact with him, or Dave too for that faux confidence into actual confidence story sub plot. Either way, yes he's not just a less intelligent Calliope, but damn if they aren't similar in many ways. The big thing both need is self-confidence and direction so there's easy parallels there as well.

As for being written like shit, I cant say I disagree. He's a slow burner, needs time to sort things out through his own methods. We saw glimpses of that when he first confronts Vriska on the meteor and that's really what writers should have focused on for the guy.

>>84281208
Active aspects are internal, Particular, local, logical and static
Passive aspects are external, Universal, broad, intuitive and dynamic

There's already passive and active classes, why the fuck not for aspects? Extending it this way makes much more sense to appropriately understand the passive/active Class dichotomy and how they relate to their respective kernel (aspect).

>>84281489
Fuck Tavros.

If Vriska never bullied him, Karkat would have been blown the fuck out and his leadership stolen by Tavros.

>>84281489
John was a dick to Tavros though.

>>84281513

because classes are passive / active methods of accessing aspects, which are core elements of reality

to arbitrarily lock an aspect to being passive is retarded

though i will admit some aspects seem to manifest as descriptors rather than actual powers, ie eridan destroying with hope versus dirk destroying heart

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>>84273479
I knew I had good taste

>>84273670
Few hours late post, but

The way I see it, Mages are surrounded by their aspect without ever truly reaching their potential. Think of it as an active Page. For instance, despite dying 2.5 times or whatever, Sollux is still technically alive. Surrounded by doom, not ever reaching it. Or Meulin, as a Mage of Heart, and courtier extraordinaire, only ever getting into a dead end moralliegance.

>>84281603

that doesn't really mention their expert manipulation of their aspects tho

like sollux being a master coder with a language that was pretty much the representation of doom, and meulin was a master matchmaker

i like to compare seers to oracles and mages to wizards. oracles see and guide the hero, mages study magic and manipulate it

>>84281594
but eridan destroyed his aspect just like dirk when he destroyed the matriorb

>>84281594
This merely describes how aspects relate to that accessibility, with passive aspects accessed outside oneself a la passive classes, and active aspects utilizing those aspects towards one.

It's the difference between "Player who does X to aspect" and "Player who through aspect does this via X."

>>84277862
Tacticool Joey Claire

This shit ended like 3 months ago how can you fuckers still be on Homestucks.

>>84281428
So the felt are entirely homosexual... so what? It's not like that ruins any good ships; Snowman is the only female that would make sense to ship with any felt member, and she was already in a blackrom with slick before she died.

>>84281476
eri wwould nevver

>>84278497
I like fallible smug cunts like those three so that sounds good to me

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Not even a thousand deaths would be fitting punishment for thy sins!

How would you rank the horns by attractiveness? For me it's

Maryam
Pyrope
Makara
Vantas
Megido
Serket
Captor
Peixes
Ampora
Leijon
Nitram
Zahhak

>>84281569
I imagine most people would be to Tavros upon first meeting him, the guy kind of asks for it even without intending to. But given the similarities to Jake, John could have been a positive role model for the guy given he's not the smartest guy but he lets his convictions lead him and it usually works out. Tavros is much the same in that regard, when he went and did what he felt was right he prospered.

>>84281725
good question

>>84281685

true, but that was a sub-manifestation
it seems like one interpretation is dominant, and the other is metaphorical

like eridan literally destroyed with hope and dirk literally destroyed heart, but dirk also fractured himself and his party via his 'splintered self'

but that's metaphorical as opposed to an actual power

>>84279530
Same here, actually. I spent a while trying to think of something newer but no luck

>>84278497
>preview build of hiveswap
>build of hiveswap
anon, these things have to be believable

i ship dd/dad

is that bad

>>84281754
It's silly pandering that does nothing. At least with trolls it made some sense.

>>84278497
I'm not surprised, the head writers favorite characters are eridan and caliborn

>>84281762

eri wwould nevver wwhat

speak up kid

>>84281779
megido
peixes
rest

>>84281801
Write it

>>84281603
Apparently she becomes successful moirails with Horuss upon meeting Nepeta and Equius in the dream bubbles. Unless that's the dead end you meant in which case carry on.

>>84281779
>ampora that loww
wwhats wwrong wwith you kid

>>84281785
>when he went and did what he felt was right he prospered

actually he got killed by vriska

>john lets his convictions lead him

no, he's an heir of breath (direction) and he gets led around for the entirety of homestuck

when he's left to his own he just ends up lost and confused

>>84278497

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seVdI6FGjk0

someone edit this with joey face when BS hiveswap news come up

>>84278497
>Preview build
That's impossible. Ryan North and Andrew finished the rough outline of the game in a planning session just a month ago, they couldn't have a build out that fast.

You wouldn't rape a troll...would you?

>>84281856
they look DUMB and ungraspable

>>84281817
>pandering
its a joke you fuckin moose

>>84281896
>>84281800

obviously

hiveswap will be even worse than homestuck

Mighty Number Hive is going to be such a great crowdfunded video game

>>84281912

THEY LOOK LIKE FUCKING LIGHTNING

>>84281896
this is flat out untrue

>>84281927
At least Mighty "Better than Nothing" Number Nine came out

Hiveswap never will

>>84281927
kekd

>>84281916
>fuckin moose
I'm not Canadian.

What's the joke?

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>>84281945
>He hasn't seen the interview

>>84272794
I would go straight for Roxy and double gay or higher for male Roxy.

>>84281896
>Ryan North and Andrew finished the rough outline of the game in a planning session just a month ago
No, they did that shortly after the kickstarter was funded. You misread that reddit post.

>>84274431
You're supposed to do it forever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQoJo81lujk

>>84281948
25% of the hiveswap will come out and the other three episodes will quietly be swept under the rug

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>>84281779
Megido
Makara
Pyrope
Leijon
Ampora
Nitram
Captor
Peixes
Serket
Maryam
Vantas
Zahhak (Second if they were intact)

I like the simple horn designs that add to the character's design, without going over the top or offering too little.

>>84281996
>Hussie cocksuckers and Hiveswapper backers will still believe this
Woo how's that Stockholm syndrome going fellah?

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>>84281725
I'm still on homestucks but I still don't know how there's threads constantly, I only pop in occasionally

>>84281725
self-hatred

>>84282059
You mean Stuckhome syndrome

>>84282059
look I'm mad about hiveswap too but that's no reason to spread misinformation

>>84282076
finally a term to explress why we still care

>>84281957
the joke is: ha ha, the leprechauns are all gay. soft bulbous bottom. course kermit cock. wrist deep in puppet ass.

>>84281871
>>84281871
>actually he got killed by vriska
I meant later when he left the pirate group and went to create the army, but I suppose you have a point. Following convictions and good will doesn't always end up with positive outcomes, John is a good example of that throughout the comic. But that's the way characters like him and Tavros provide value, pursuing what they believe in.

I'd agree with the more complicated stuff, such as using his retcon powers meaningfully and his planet quest. But even with him acting as the POV main character and being bossed about he still follows his whims whilst doing so and there's value in that in my mind.

>>84281725
i honestly just love this fuckin comic

>>84282148
I still don't get it. :|

>>84281489
Oh, I know, I'm just kind of bothered by the way the fic writer you mentioned summed him up.
Yeah, Tavrosprite and Jake had some interesting conversations, it's a shame they both went nowhere. (Unless you consider Jake kicking Caliborn's ass to be good closure, I suppose.)

The odd thing about Tavros is that he's shown to get along well with others and have a lot of supportive friends... none of which are able to stand up for him : busy, emotionless, insane, obsessed with Vriska, not enough influence on Vriska, etc.
And I think these healthy relationships already hint at the way he could blossom into the ideal friendleader, given enough time away from Vriska. But he doesn't get that for a long while.

John is very irritable and being a dick to him (also see: Prospit ship tantrums) and Tavros is in a real bad place emotionally (Stockholm syndrome out in full force). It's no surprise they got really antagonistic towards each other. But you're right, a genuine and honest interaction between the two would have been golden. A Tavros/Calliope chatlog could have been a great thing too.

And he got along well with Dave, too! I maintain Davetav should have been endgame. Maybe in an alternate story where Tavros was alive on the meteor and cheered everyone out of being passive wrecks and actually made a difference. Kid had one of the highest potentials out of the entire troll cast IMO.

>>84281558
>Implying that's a bad thing
Karkat's obsession with leadership and doing big important thing is not good for him. He needs to find value in himself without resorting to power fantasies (that's something he and Vriska have in common).

>>84282178

i'd say i wish i could be like you but that would make me retarded and / or a proud tumbl town citizen

so no

>Ryan North: No; Andrew actually maintains a few different apartments for reasons, and these were different apartments!

How the fuck does he still have money to afford even one? Nobodies buying his shitty merch anymore and all that hiveswap money should've dried out to embezzle by now.

>>84282198
gays are the joke

>>84282170
>fangs
first you steal an aradia i took back, and now you've defaced it? please delete this.

>>84282224
Ad-money?

>>84282225
Not a very good joke then.
>>84282202
>Dave and Tavros
>Getting along together
>Implying

Would you rather play with John's dainty feet or Karkat's slutty feet and why?

>>84282091
I'm not mad about it

I'm actively rooting for it to fail

>>84282224
1. People are clearly still buying homestuck merch, or welovefine wouldn't regularly create new products.
2. Hussie is probably renting out those apartments, so he's actually making money off of them.

>>84281996
>Y-you just misread it! It's gonna come out, it's going to be GREAT! You'll s-see!
What am I misreading here exactly? He said he went over to Hussies a few weeks ago to work on Hiveswap, and the first part was writing. Nowhere in the interview does he say "Yeah I went over way back when Hiveswap was first funded 4 years ago", that'd be a rather significant detail to include if it was.

He doesn't even break up the paragraphs or change topics when he says he went over there weeks ago and planned things in the same line of subject.

>>84282264
>implying gays arent funny

>>84282309
They're not?

>>84282249
That would make sense, since Ryan North pretty much pays him shrekles via Project-Wonderful. Kinda funny no one's ever pointed that out

>>84282326
gays are really funny

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>>84282332
Is Homestuck just a money-laundering operation by Andrew Hussie and Ryan North?

Are they doing Breaking Bad but with webcomics instead of carwashes?

>>84282285
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4mzern/i_am_ryan_north_author_and_cartoonist_and_i_one/d3zi0u7
>I was at his place a few months ago
>For writing, the first bit was Andrew coming to my place for a week
>his place
>my place
two separate occasions, chucklefuck
hussie probably isn't involved in the writing at all at this point, since he's got a shiny new "head writer"

>>84281927
How dare you compare these two games, that's really insulting towards the MN9 team.

Seriously. MN9 development started after Hiveswap and ended before. And they frequently kept backers up to date. Hiveswap is literally vaporware.

>>84282285
To be fair, designing the rough outline of the game is something Andrew said he did during the Gigapause or something. I think it was in the newspost, or one of the first and only Kickstarter updates.