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/doa/: Smug Becky Edition

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Since the current one is about to hit autosage
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>>84137706
Why do you keep giving this man attention? As far as I can see, he's not that popular outside of whatever publicity /co/ brings.
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>>84137706
Man, that last panel *completely* fucks the semi-serious tone of this particular bit of drama. Or maybe it's just really stupid independent of that. Either way, the hate feels goood.
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>>84137706
Last panel ruins it. If she just ate it normally it could have been fine, but for someone who still into their faith they sure are acting blasphemous.
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>>84137879
I suppose Willis believes in the Marvel movies philosophy: there can never be too many quips in a dramatic scene.
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>>84137752
He has enough viewers that he can comfortably make a living off of Patreon. Imo, that's popular enough for me to bash him like a pinata
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>>84137706
>Becky makes a stand affirming her faith and pushing back against the passive aggressive bullshit she's been dealing with.
>Blows it by acting like a petulant child

Classic Willis, and he wonders why we hate Becky?
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>>84137706
Liberals Love Dead Trannies By Advocating SRS Edition
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>>84138075
You can't really affirm your faith by continuing to be a Lesbian
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>>84137752
Willis makes these threads.
>inb4 le can't take criticism meme
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>>84138125
Nothing about being lesbian in the bible mate
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>>84137752
>Complains about OP making a thread
Who's more foolish, the fool who makes a thread, or the fool who responds to that thread?
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>>84138125
I really do wish Becky would try pulling some of the various 'homosexuality is allowed in the bible' arguments.

Then again, that would require a Christian in DoA to actually give a shit about their religion, so that's a nonstarter
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>>84138125
Says who? Not Jesus, not the Poor, not even Becky's pastor as far as we know.
Joyce's mom has simply taken it on herself to judge who is and is not "really" a Christian. Not a very Christian attitude if you ask me.
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>>84137706
Are there actually churches where they pass out a plate of croutons and everyone grabs one?
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I heard this was the place to go to kill trannies.

How can we get more of them to undergo SRS?
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>>84138231
Sure evangelicals mostly. It's a lot more practical if you've got a big congestion too
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>>84138224
*The Pope
Not the Poor, damn my heathen auto correct
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>>84138224
Also all of the other chatty people at the church who hate Becky now that she's a lesbian. Remember, all Christians are evil. Except Joyce and her dad for some reason.
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>>84138231
If this is one of those Megachurches they may pass out multiple dishes of communion wafers, but back when I went to Church, we all had to get in a line to meet the priest to get them.
If you're arguing the shape of the wafers, in my church they were discs around the size of a dollar coin, although google search pulled up ones the size of cereal bits.
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>>84138170
>Nothing about being lesbian in the bible mate

Romans 1:26–27

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Next time, just STFU idiot
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>>84138262
Yea, I was Catholic so it was line up to get the discs + wine. It does make more sense in a megachruch to not have everyone line up, though.
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>>84138285
>old testament
Get a load of this anti-Semitic nazi
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>>84138286
I think it's mainly Catholic and Episcopalian churches that do the line-up thing.

I'm in a small church in a protestant denomination, and they pass out the dishes
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>>84138285
That only counts if you're a Jew. Christians literally made their own book and called it "The New Testament".
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>>84138361
He said Bible, not "New Testament"

Looks like you're an idiot too
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>>84138380

Spotted the Willis.
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>>84138390
Spotted the fucktard who doesn't know shit about the Bible
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>>84138256
Yeah that's really starting to bug me and I'm an atheist. I get that bigotry exists but accessing a whole religion of it is in itself bigoted
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>>84138286
I think it's mainly Catholic and Episcopalian churches that do the line-up thing.

I'm in a small church in a protestant denomination, and they pass out the dishes
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>>84138396
I like how you don't even pretend to deny it anymore.
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>>84138285
Romans 1:24-25
Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies among themselves.
25 They changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

I'm not sure that a passage about idol worshipers being punished by being made to succumb to wild fucking is the best indication of how the bible feels about homosexuality.
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>>84137752

>not that popular outside of whatever publicity /co/ brings

>gets given over $5k a month on Patreon
>over the course of 5 kickstarters for physical copies of his freely available webcomics, he's been given $294,789
>The combined goals of each of those kickstarters comes to $88,000, which means that they were overfunded by $206,789.
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>>84138496
No point in arguing bruh. Most people don't know how to read their own holy books, and only know the passages they use out of context to affirm their personal opinions.

And because it's a deeply personal opinion, no amount of logic will change it.
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>>84138496

the point of referring to the passage is that it makes it clear that being a lesbian, just like being gay, is unnatural and therefore a sin.
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>>84138126

That doesn't logically follow. I've never visited his site and would never do so voluntarily, but I presume he gets ad revenue from visitors there. Having his comics posted here literally picks money out of his pockets.
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>>84138485

And I like how you don't even pretend to deny you're an idiot.

Keep talking please, put your stupidity on display one last time for everyone to see. Every village needs a fool like you.
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>>84138550
That's your interpretation yes but your interpretation is not the only one. To suggest that only your view is correct is immodest to say the least
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>>84138176
Yes
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>>84137706
Wait the amount of sins you have doesn't prevent communion from working.
This ... comic is stupid.
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>>84138772
You'd think of all people, Willis would know how small town churches operate all things considered.
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>>84137879
God forbid she has an actul charater with flaws instead of just being portrayed as a poor victims.

Say what you want about Willis, but at least he is not afraid to portray minorities as being asshole.

Few so called SJW would actually dare to do that.
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>>84138772
I think you have reading comprehension problem. The mom is actually saying that IT'S NOT AN OBLIGATION. with he subtext of passively-aggressively shaming Becky for her "life style" choices. It's a "look into you sould, do you think you are right with God to do this?" it's an attempt at self shaming, not saying she is forbidden to commune.
>>84138779
He do. he know exactly how passive-aggressive this community is and how it act and react. This is quite faithful.
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>>84138755
It's not an interpretation. The verses Rom. 1:26–27 clearly state that girl x girl and man x man is unnatural and are shameful, indecent acts.

If you still insist it's an "interpretation", then there is no hope for you.
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>>84138824
Or it's saying that idolitors are disgusting and the exact details of their fornication is incidental. It's really just a question of emphasis
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>>84138629
You sure seem asspained for someone who's not-Willis.
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>>84138890
It's not an "or", idolatry AND homosexuality are, simply put, still wrong.
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>>84138913
>god makes them do it
>it's bad
Oh God
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>>84138770
Okay... I'm not sure what your answer was, but whatever.
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>>84138943
Is that your only argument? Because the point is, whether they were forced to do it or not, homosexual acts are still sinful. So there's really no wiggling out of homosexuality being a sin. And no one's forcing Becky or real-life homosexuals to be gay.
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>>84139013
It's not an argument, it's an observation. I'm not even the guy you're having this pointless discussion with
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>>84138246
>congestion
Kek
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>>84138781
See, I'd agree except he honestly doesn't think he's making Becky an asshole. If you see his responses to comments (or what he deletes as comments) this is his manic pixie girl doing what he wishes he'd been strong enough to do himself and she's perfect.
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>>84138550
>the point of referring to the passage is that it makes it clear that being a lesbian, just like being gay, is unnatural and therefore a sin.

Actually the point of the passage is that women "exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones."
Homosexuality in particular was only referred to for men. Women could just as easily have been giving blowjobs and having anal sex, which were considered just as unnatural in the old testament. Doesn't specify lesbians.
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>>84137706
>Not getting communion from a priest

lol Protestants

t. papist
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>>84137706
>licking your lips after communion

I'm not even religious and I'm mad what the actual fuck Becky.
It doesn't even make sense, its coin sized wheat bread not salted chips or juicy meat, what do you need to suck fingers for?
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>>84139548
Spite.

>>84138231
Greek Orthodox here. We lined up for the wine and the unleavened bread was in a large bowl for us to take one.
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She's

so

qUiRkY!¡!¡!
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Of course the "dyke" needs to suck on something to be happy.
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>>84137706
This just might be the perfect DoA comic. Because Becky is right, God does love her. In fact, God loves her the MOST, and actually hates anyone who opposes her.

Because Willis is their god. He controls their lives, he's the one that sent a physics defying rescue team to save her, and he has sworn to always Divinely Intervene to make sure nothing bad ever happens to Becky, but ONLY for Becky. The rest of DoA's world can fuck right off, but Becky will always be fine. She is God's Chosen Person, except this time that means preferential treatment instead of, you know, Holocausts and stuff like that.
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>>84139013
> God makes people gay
> God makes being gay a sin
Is this what Protestants really believe?
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>>84139889
That's what pretty much all religious nutcases think.
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>>84138361
The Epistle to the Romans is New Testament, buddy. I don't know what to tell you here. Paul was a bit of a freak when it came to religion, but in a lot of ways he held the views of a average 1st century Mesopotamia/Mediterranean man on women, homosexuality, whatever.
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It would be funny if after that tirade, a random girly just says "I was raped" to make her problems seem small by comparison
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>>84139464
>Homosexuality in particular was only referred to for men. Women could just as easily have been giving blowjobs and having anal sex, which were considered just as unnatural in the old testament. Doesn't specify lesbians.

100% Wrong. Read the verses again. "IN THE SAME WAY the men ALSO ABANDONED NATURAL RELATIONS WITH WOMEN and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

"In the same way" has a plain and clear meaning; while the men were gaying it up with men, then women were lezzing it up with women too. It's not "the same way" if the Women were only giving blowjobs and having anal sex. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that and only a deceiver would try to twist its meaning.

So again, homosexuality for both men AND women, are unnatural, shameful, sinful acts. Anyway, I've explained things clearly and simply enough as I could. If you want to believe your wrong "interpretation", go ahead. There's only so much one person can do if someone wants to stay willfully ignorant to justify living a life of sin.

I'm done here.
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>>84138231
Was about to ask this too, I'm too use to lining up. But then different religion different customs.
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>>84139548
baka if you don't think jesus is finger licking good
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>>84138772

>expecting some non nondenominational, religion for profit church goers to actually understand wtf they're pretending to believe in.....
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>>84140165
Well you are entitled to your opinion and even to be angry that multiple people disagree with it. What you don't get to do is insist that only you can correctly interpret God's will. That is the worst kind of hubris and you should know better
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I'm going to start reading this. These threads aren't enough anymore for my curiosity.
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>>84140492
Nooo! Don't do it anon. Learn from our mistakes, it's too late for us but you can still save yourself!
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>>84140492
And now you understand why this webcomic is still ongoing.
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>>84140258
I wish I had some popcorn chicken right now
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>>84140492
Just remember to have adblock up when you go to his site.
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>>84140492
I just finished doing that yesterday.

it's not worth it.
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>>84140404
>the worst kind of hubris

Gay -Pride- parades exist, anon. lmao
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>>84137706
I hope lightning strikes Becky.
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Why do these threads get hundreds of posts but Sinfest threads are deleted on sight?
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>>84140881
>Lightning strikes her
>becomes Static Becky with hyper lesbian cling
>no one can escape her
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>>84140905
>Sinfest
Who?
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>>84138301
>>84138361
That is the New Testament.
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>>84138224
Paul addresses it a couple of times in Romans.
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>>84141233
You're a bit late for that party anon
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>>84139464
The Bible never talks about what is, and what is not natural sex-wise for a married couple. In fact there's one interpretation of Song of Solomon that suggests Solomon and the Women he's courting actively engage in oral sex with each other. The Bible also says that sex can be used for recreation, and that you should be satisfied with your wife's breasts.
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>>84141320
Them bronze age shepherds knew their shit
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>>84141320
In the middle ages a lousy sex life was considered grounds for divorce.
And prior to the introduction of syphilis into Europe the church generally had a more relaxed attitude about sex and marriage
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>>84141330
Hey, someone had to get tired of "benis in begina" at some point.
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>>84137706
Something is super appealing to me about the becky face in the final panel, and the only thing that ruins it for me are the obnoxious "num num num" sounds.
I really can't tell you what it is though. I can't tell if it's simply the smugness, or if I find it slightly hot the way she's doing it.
I'm sure a fan is going to ask for that panel standalone, though.
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>>84137752

Isn't it obvious? It's something that has a continuous general, but doesn't maintain enough interest for any of the accouterments of the other generals like copious rule 34. It's some combination of astroturf, bitching about the fucked up internet social life of the author, and related political discussion.
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>>84138550
Unnatural and abomination are two completely different words. Please learn to actually read the bible before arguing about it.
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>>84140165
"In the same way" could also mean both sexes traded penis-in-vagina for blowjobs and buttfucking. It's an equally valid interpretation.
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>>84137752

Why do we give chris-chan attention? Because the stuff he produces with it is amusing.
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edit-tumblr anon here, according to some anon hate I got, this OJST edit shows that I have "sexual desperation" or something.
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>>84142244
stfu idiot
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>>84138231
The communions I went to had actual french loaves they'd actually break and a goblet of sorts with the juice. Might be a Methodist thing.

Oh another communion faux pas: Double dipping. The blood of Jesus is not McNugget sauce.
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>>84138285

>Got Hates Shrimp
>If you rape a lady, you can marry them, or pay her dad enough money to make things okay
>Don't trust sorcerers

Bible says a lot of things.
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>>84138781
It's not portrayal as an asshole if there are never any consequences to it.
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>>84138510
Someone pointed out that at this point it's not really about the money anymore. It's about building up his stock as an Online Personality.

He's a small potato in Transformers fandom, with the wiki being his one big thing and ignored everywhere else. He's a small potato in the world of webcomics, where others are more successful and happier despite their Problematic content. Even in the world of online social commentary he's small time and quite obviously trying to mimic the bigger names to relate to his fellow young people.
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>>84143115
>He's a small potato in the world of webcomics, where others are more successful and happier despite their Problematic content.

Aside from QC, who makes more than Willis? I'm actually curious.
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>>84143019
Are you telling me I should trust sorcerers? Because that sounds like some sorcerer propaganda if you ask me.
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>>84138496
it sounds like a passage about Jesus
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>>84138285
Bet you dont feel this way about mixed fabrics
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>>84142906
What an exceptional response. You've throughly and wittily dismantled my argument. I tip my hat to you, sir, for I am bested.
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>>84143356
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>>84143187
Sorcerers are fine. It's wizards you have to watch out for.
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>>84143019
don't forget
>women on their periods have to leave town
>if you have mildew in your house, you need to leave until a priest considers it clean
>no mixing fabrics
>disobedient children must be stoned to death
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>>84137706

>Be Mrs Brown
>Have only daughter
>Pretty happy how you raised her right
>It was hard, and your husband fought you on it but still satisfying
>She goes to college
>You cant be there for her any more
>She starts getting involved with dubious people
>Retarded buzz cut hairs and shit starts coming around
>What if she gets herself in danger?
>What if she gets seduced by these crazy lifestyles, lets her guard down and almost gets date raped?
>Mcyntire goes nuts
>She could be next
>Daughter comes home
>She seems to have guilt shackled herself to this broken grown ass girl like some mother figure
>Maybe its not so bad
>Bitch is rude at dinner, telling her to go pay for her house and shit
>fine, whatever
>Mrs Rosenberg called. Apparently they went to the local diner and shouted about how your sons are nazis
>Your son tells you she tried getting your airheaded boy to give her his social security
>God, you hope they dont do something stupid like breaking the law
>they're out late
>your husband lies to your face because of her
>still, a Christian
>try to help her fit in with one of your dresses
>you hear her bitching about it to your daughter behind your back
>disregard, pray harder
>this is probably a cry for help
>Maybe she's a horrible cunt because no onr believes in her but my daughter
>Jesus does, so maybe I should try
>In church, time for communion
>Christ is about salvation, hope and redemption
>Communion time
>"You know, this is voluntary. You have the power to do this or not if you want to. Take a role in your life"
>"She goes "Nah, fuck you" basically
>licks her fingers
>Manage nit to skap her anyway

Holy shit, Mrs Brown a saint
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>>84142869
I mean, you're on 4chan, so yeah. I don't see what this strip has to do with it though.
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>>84139935

On the other hand, judgement is the Lord's. You are eventually allowed to shun people, after given them some chances to repent, but there is no divinely mandated earthly punishment.

That is what makes Christianity special and the only Abrahamic religion compatible with secular society.
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>>84137706
Amazing how little it takes to fix Willis' shitty pages
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>>84137706
Amazi-Girl isn't a superhero, or even a hero...
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>>84141320

It being Solomon's is not necessarily an endorsement. His wisdom was limited to his early life, late in life he was a sinner.
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maintaining all these church stuff is adding nothing to the story so far. except a place to let people be passive aggressive at becky

>>84138285

iirc there's also readings of that that it's not about the actual sex but about how it's crazy inflamed over the top constant sex.

i remember in a bible class some story where someone was raped and the conventional reading was something else but I was like "they're wrong cause they raped someone!" don't do victim blaming bs.
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>>84143936
Wow... that almost makes Becky seem like a fucking human being instead of some kind of weird organic machine that generates smug, wacky banter.
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>>84137752

>the inevitable "whu wu why are you having fun talking about something bad" post is the very first response now

Swear to god you're like Unsounded's Negromancer at this point except not funny
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>>84143807

>no mixing fabrics

I'm still wondering what went horribly wrong with old-timey mixed fabrics that made them make that rule
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>>84139911

Well, here in Catholic land, being gay isn't a sin, only acting on those feelings is a sin

So you're good as long as you never love anyone ever
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>>84144247
That's arguably more crazy.
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>>84144263
Everyone has sinful thoughts. What makes you sinful is acting on them.
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>>84138333
At the Baptist church I used to go to, everything was passed around. It wasn't a megachurch, but it was quite large.

I went to a Methodist church a few times with my grandmother, and we had to line up.
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>>84143176
Well, there's the Penny Arcade guys, who are so big and situated they don't have to even use Patreon or Kickstarters to keep their franchise afloat.

Granted, they have their own brand of problems, and the Penny Arcade Experience hasn't been about the comics themselves for ages.
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>>84143936
>>84144084
Nope, sorry. Too 'Hallmark' whatever that means.
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>>84137706
>shitting on the eucharist
yeah i'm just done with this comic now
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>>84143861
nice head canon
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>>84138981
My answer was yes.
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>>84144311
Didn't Jesus say that looking at someone with lust in your heart is the same as actually fucking them, because you've committed adultery in your heart?
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>>84139889
>God makes people gay
When will this meme die?
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Hey guys I did this, but I have a question.

Should the punchline stay how it is, or should it be "Well then, I don't think any humans will show any interest in this."
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>>84145846
Not him, but do you chose to like chocolate?

No one choses to like anything, that's just the way they are.
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>>84145866
>Ok, since you're, like, a Freshman, I think I can do a "human interest story on you". So what do you got for me, Big Girl? Lay it on me.
>My R.A. Assaulted me today!
>Was it sexual assault?
>uh... No.
>Well then, as a "human", my "interest" is fucking zero.

Maybe try that format of your joke?
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>>84146080

hahahahahahahahahaahahaha
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>>84146400
btfo
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>>84143726
Sorcerer pls
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>>84146381
Well, I mean, It's the blue haired girl who wants to do a story for newspaper, not the blonde girl.

And I think that last line is a little too mean, I don't want to have them curse for absolutely no reason.
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>>84146709
oh yeah of course, just an outline. you're welcome to modify it, not use it, whatever you'd like dewd
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>>84137706
This is it then. Willis is putting himself in the role of God.

There's a reason most literature doesn't make acts of God canon, and that's because it's, in the most literal sense possible, Deus ex machina. Readers know that it wasn't an act of God, rather an act of the author.

It's disturbing how Willis talks about his characters need to have things happen to them, as if they were real people.

Also licking your fingers in public is disgusting and she needs to wash her hands immediately.
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>>84137752

Literally pic related
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>>84146794
So, if Willis is their God, does that mean all of the christians in the comic are worshiping him, performing rituals to him, and taking communion for him, while all the atheist characters are just giving him the finger?
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>>84146954
I only ever browse these for the OC, and not even the edits, which are a low-tier form of OC imho, but I'll take all the edits over the dewd's "art", any day. But yeah, just for the drawn smut.
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>>84138361
Disregarding the fact that Romands is New Testament, it's not quite that simple. Christians still recognize the Old Testament. The thing is that there are lots of different laws for various reasons. Some were for ceremonial reasons, some for hygiene, and some for morality/spirituality. Most ceremonial Old Testament laws are not recognized because they apply to the old covenant that was done away with when Jesus died but many spiritual and moral laws are still recognized and Jesus himself affirmed many OT lessons.
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>>84145745
Which matches pretty nicely with the internet crusader concept saying and thinking something online is the same as doing it for real. Also, protecting fictional characters is just as valuable as protecting real people.
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>>84137706
>Skip communion if you aren't "Right with God."

What? That's not why you take communion. You take it to honor the Lord Jesus Christ for his sacrifice and what he did for everyone, which was making the Old Testament irrelevant. It's not about you, it's about God. So why the fuck would it matter if she partook or not. As far as I can tell, beyond being gay, she's still religious.

This really pisses me off. Willis honestly thinks that being gay means you cant be Religious. Sure, there are a few passages that say if you fuck someone of the same sex, it's bad. I guess it could be interpreted as being Gay is a sin. But I also know that the Bible equates sins as being equal, so by that logic, if you've sinned and didn't ask for forgiveness, you shouldn't be taking communion, WHICH ISN'T HOW THAT WORKS AT ALL.
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>>84147323
As a Catholic, you're not supposed to take Communion unless you've confessed your sins and received forgiveness for them.
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>>84147438
Willis gets super mad if you call Joyce a Catholic tho
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>>84147438
Yeah, but you don't have to confess anything as a Christian. It's about your personal connection with the Lord. I mean, I could be talking out of my ass, but in Church, the only requirement to take Communion was you had to be Baptized, accepting Jesus as your personal savior. So communion was more about honoring God. I think it's different for the two religions.
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>>84147490
Catholics have all the cool stuff though.
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>>84143356
>>84143380
thanks for doing this every thread. not being sarcastic, it's real helpful
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Hopefully Becky kills everyone in that bigoted Church.
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When will this comic end?
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>>84147880
When the pain starts to dull.
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>>84147880
As soon as SJWs stop jerking Willis off.
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>>84143176
>https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators
going off this, Zach Weinersmith, AKABUR, and Tom Siddell (i guess. he gets paid more per month but he's lower on the list then Willis. not sure why that is)
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>>84147880

When Becky get all his shit together, dump all his friends and apologize for all the sjw shit.

Then Willis will descend in the comic universe as a self-insert-god and say: "Ha! I was just kidding! LOL"

Them the comic will end with fifty chapters of Joyce and Becky making hot steaming sex,
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>>84147971
It's sorted by patrons, not income. By income, Willis isn't even in the top 100.
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>>84143176
>>84147971

My dream is that one day Shadman overtakes Willis on Patreon and it gives him a fucking aneurysm.
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>>84144759
WILLIS GET OUT
>>84147630
No problem. I'm mainly doing this because you usually have to pay $25/subscribe to his patreon to get the links.
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>>84137706
>I was saved by a string of stupid, poorly written Dei Ex Machina. Literally.

Willis is comparing himself to God?

O, the hubris!
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>>84148124
>Shadman makes some DOA art to celebrate the fact he's making more than Willis.
That would be a fucking spectacle.
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>>84148174
>makes art of every creator he passes
Could be a cool gimmick/"stretch goal"
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>>84148241

I don't even care for Shad's art in any erotic sense, I just mostly enjoy the spectacle of it. But yeah, someone should e-mail him about the idea because holy shit that would be amazing.
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>>84148324
>he could eventually do porn of the QC/DOA trans girls.
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>>84148111
oh shit you're right. so you can add Tracy Butler, Danielle Corsetto, Alex Woolfson, Sakimi Chan (tho i'm pretty sure she's never done a webcomic but fuck it, her thing says "comics" so she counts), and (this is my favorite) Jay Naylor to the list of webcomic folks that make more then Willis
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>>84148124
>>84148174
I don't even like Shadman and I want to see this.
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>>84148174
>Shadman drawing a futa and proud Carla railing Mary from behind
How do I make this a thing?
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>>84149958
Commission it from Shadman.
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>>84138251
Why would the Pope matter to protestants? Especially the stereotype of American fundie baptist loons.
>tfw Pope recently made appologies for all the shit the Catholic Church has done to homosexuals in the past
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>>84140905
Because sinfest is shit
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>>84146794
Protecting and defending fictional people is a lot of easier that trying to "save" real people, especially when they don't want or need the help of an Internet Nice Guy or Lady.

>>84146794
It'll be extra weird when God-Willis reboots his setting again for whatever new trend comes down the pipe.

>Can a God create a stone so big, not even He can lift it?
>...huh, apparently not.
>Welp! Bored now!
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>>84146669
Be wary around their Charisma-based magic!
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>it's been fourteen days and I haven't seen any fan content about the in-canon event of Carol undressing Becky
It'll take an obnoxiously long time for me to do much more than this redline, but here's what we have so far.
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>>84152000
I never asked for this.
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>>84152059
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>>84138184
joyce is the one who looked into it and justified it to herself. becky just takes it on faith that god is good and therefore wont cast her out
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>>84152000
this is pretty good
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>>84142869

You know, sex positivity would include accepting all of these as kinks. Maybe some would be best explored in fantasy and roleplay, though, like the murder one.
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>>84153020

And the "white women in wheat fields" one because that's /pol/'s fetish
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>>84152000
Could you post a slowed down version of it so we can better see the individual frames?
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>>84153076
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>>84153121
Thanks. That's a surprising amount of work that you put into the titty bounce.
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>>84153161
I like titties, and I like when they bounce.
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>>84153242
Good man.
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>>84142869

What's your Tumblr?
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>>84145866
When are they gonna fuck?
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>>84137902
>quips
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>>84154207
Willis does attempt humor too much leading to his dramatic scenes falling flat or suffering from tonal issues.
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>>84154198
Never

Unless you request it in a draw thread or something.

Or commision me :^)
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>>84138285
>quoting anything post jesus

>>84139935
meds giving give a flipping fuck about who you shagged

mesos, i don't know.

>>84138824
there's a 99% chance the the shameful acts where wasting seed on the male-male side, which is what early Christians found appaling

>>84139013
>homosexual acts are sinful
read the bible, you chucklefuck
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>>84140165
>linguistically analysis of a translation of the translation of the stranslation of a 1800 years old book

How about you learn Latin and first millennium Semitic languages and actually read one of the original bibles and see how accurate that sentence is?

People forget that the messages in the original holy books have been mangled due to age and continuous translations.
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>>84152000
>>84153121
Stellar!
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>>84143936
Thanks for that.
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>>84153970

for /doag/ it's doa-edits.tumblr.com
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>>84137706
I hate both of these people. It's amazing how Becky can take this situation and make herself look like the person.
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>>84138231
Yes.
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It just occurred to me that a strip where Becky's smug as a fuck is going to go live.

The comment section is going to bend over backwards to give her praise.
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>>84157804
Well, Willis' target audience knows the importance of being respectful to people of all religions and cultures.

Unless they're Christian. Then all bets are off.
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>>84145745
The concept of thought crime seems to be a shared concept in both the religious and internet social commentary scenes.
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>>84137752

Why should it be any of your concern?
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>>84145745
huh, so really, there is no redemption for gays (or pedo and zoophiles for that matter). By this logic, their very natures make them inherantly sinning all the time!

I'd be a little more impressed if I thought more then 10% of the folks I've seen get really angry at homo's for existing could actually quote this line at me.
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>>84143936
Willis actualy has the potential to be a good writer and story crafter. His hangups and probable autism prevent him from getting that extra 10% better, and fortunately that 10% is actually the in common sense portion of the brain unautist editfags like you have effortlessly.
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>>84157804

It's up. Suprising nobody, they are.
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>>84137706
Smug
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>>84158486
If I look at this like she's a brunette, I can pretend she's Tracer!

and that makes it easier to fap
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>>84158486
>B-but she's sucking that finger almost like a tallywhacker! Don't you know that BECKY is a LESBIAN

Is it merely meant to reflect oral sex? Mrs Brown was probably Becky's "Friend's Hot Mom" growing up
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>>84138447

Didn't you know? Bigotry is totally okay if it's directed against Christians and non-progressive groups
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I'm arguing with them right now. I'm literally arguing with the denizens of the comments. I swore to myself LAST WEEK that I'd give up reading that comic. What have you fuckers done to me?
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>>84138781
>he is not afraid to portray minorities as being asshole.

Im getting the impression that he can't perceive that his characters are actually being assholes. Like they're being rebels and bucking societal norms
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>Protestant """""""""""""""""""Communion""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>84139889

Being Gay IS a sin. But there are also loads of sins heterosexuals commit, too.

But sins CAN be forgiven, if one seeks penance from God
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>>84146974

Nah. It's just that the Christian God is actually a false God.
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>>84158975
thats right though. becky going on blind faith because she believes god is good and therefore loves her has been established, especially compared to joyce who stayed up all night looking for justifications for what she believed.
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Here's tomorrow's strip. I think this is the most thought Willis has ever put into the characterization of a parent and the way they interact with their children. It's nice to see a reasonable human being in this comic.
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>>84159033

What's the deal with the fountain again?
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>>84159033
so what was faith baptist actually against
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>>84159074
thats where joyce called her mom and dad out for being assholes and judging everyone and said something about how she was more loyal to jesus than them or something
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Y'know, I forgot to comment on Becky referring to Amber as a real-life superhero.
Fuck that; Amazi-Girl is a walking time bomb.

>>84159033
I believe Willis himself is more sympathetic towards his own father than his mother, or something like that.

>>84159074
The fountain is where Joyce and Becky were confronted by Toedad, I believe.
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>>84159125
>The fountain is where Joyce and Becky were confronted by Toedad, I believe
it was, but thats not what hes talking about. joyce had a fight with her parents at the fountain during freshman family weekend
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>>84159157

Yeah, I was getting the two mixed up
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>>84159157
Ah. Well, they've never posted those strips in here.
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>>84158975
except becky has shown consistently to still be a devout christian, almost as much as joyce, and she attended church and istaking communion because she believed god just fucking saved her from her psycho dad.

I mean, as someone who just marathoned the entire comic, there'sa lot of dumb bullshit, but yeah, that's pretty much exactly how becky has been depicted.
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>>84158975
To be fair, Becky actively DOES have a god on her side. That god just happens to be named Willis.
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>>84147323
>Willis honestly thinks that being gay means you cant be Religious.

Isn't that the opposite of the point of this storyline? Assholes are trying to push Becky out of the church, but she's going "fuck you God answers lesbian prayers too."
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>>84137706
What the fuck did she expect? She fucking invited herself to go home with her "best friend" and her WELL KNOWN ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN PARENTS after her own obsessed CHRISTIAN father nearly killed her and several people she loved in God's name. What the fuck did she think was going to happen? She did this so that she could have more people feel sorry for her when the parents start behaving in the exact same way she would expect.
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>>84159079
I think Faith Baptist is just a stand-in for corrupt Christian churches, given that Joyce's dad basically says the pastor should have a guilty conscience. That being said, Faith Baptist in LaPorte, Indiana was seriously embroiled in a sex scandal back when I was going to college in the area. The pastor's grandson molested a couple of boys and got a twenty year prison sentence. So maybe Willis is referencing that? It wouldn't have been when Joyce was young or anything, but it did happen, so... I dunno.
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>>84159209
because it was a good scene.

the good parts of DoA don't often get posted here.
I really like joyce's dad.
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>>84159125
Amber is a "real-life superhero," except that unlike most real life superheroes she's not doing it for attention.

>>84159307
A better writer could have her mirror Joyce in that she is also looking for a return to a sense of normalcy even though she knows that she's unlikely to find it.
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>>84159526
We do like to post and repost the scene where Becky gets denied Joyce's cooch. That's always a good laugh.

Though yeah, for all the shit that Willis gives to the parents in his comics, it's refreshing that at least one parent is fine. Though it just means that the other parent has to make up for it all.
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>>84159307
One day she' going to learn too late that trolling in real life? Not nearly as easy and rewarding as it is online.
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I don't get why you guys care about this so much. Only 1/10 strips are bad enough to cause umbrage. The rest are just boring. Same as every other webcomic /co/ obsesses over periodically (Menage a 3, Sinfest, Least I could Do).
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>>84159033
That first panel looks completely awful with Hank missing a brow.

>No quarters
It's "no quarter," singular. It means taking no prisoners.

Also, I know this is supposed to be inspiring and touching, but I see a lot of Willis' inflexible shittiness in what is being espoused here. I mean, isn't Carol doing what she thinks is right by questioning Becky's sexuality as a choice? Ross literally would've taken no quarter if Becky hadn't bowed to his will. Doing what you think is right and doing the right thing are not equivalents, and having a little humility that you could be wrong is pretty much always a good idea.
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>>84138285
There's a site called Hope Remains that studies passages from the Bible and analyzes why the Bible actually doesn't say homosexuality in general is wrong. This sums up what they got from examining that section.
>This chapter is not about homosexuality vs. heterosexuality, but rather about the error of trying to change the way we were created. God has created each of us with a sexual orientation, and for us to attempt to change it into another orientation is, in effect, telling God that He created us wrong. But if it was wrong for heterosexuals and homosexuals in the first century to try to be bisexuals, then it is equally wrong, and for the same reasons, for homosexuals in the twenty-first century to try to be heterosexuals, or vice-versa.
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>>84158975
What's the deal with this Cerberus? Every strip has its own dissertation.

>>84159640
>It's "no quarter," singular. It means taking no prisoners.
It also sounds awkward and adversarial, as though finding a new church was somehow belligerent, and is repeated. I think the dialogue works much better without both instances.
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>>84160312
she said on a recent strip shes doing this as part of her therapy
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>>84159601
the days of boredom are worth it for the minutes of sheer terror.
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>>84160594
>Choose

I guess animals CHOOSE to be Gay as well even though there's no benefit or no outside forces to influence them.
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>>84159666
Sounds like some liberal christian bullshit with an aim of giving false hope to homosexuals.

God created humans only as 2 sexes meant for each other, man and woman. He did not create homosexuals. Gays/Lesbians choose to be homosexual, but could instead choose to live a straight life.
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>>84160662

Wait, are you comparing gay people with gay animals?

That's harsh, man.
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>>84138781
Willis doesn't see any of Becky's obnoxiousness as a flaw. She's supposed to be akin to a loveable scamp or Bart Simpson-esque rebel.

Instead you get the webcomic equivalent of Jar Jar Binks bumbling her way through with no hardships or consequences, since Willis literally admitted he bends the narrative to keep Becky happy and comfortable.
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>>84144197
it was to set them apart, make jews look different from other people.

Which was just to keep them isolated I guess
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>>84160823
The problem is that DoA is ostensibly set in the real world. Willis' slips into cartoonishness wouldn't be so out of place if the setting supported them or if he restricted them to the periphery.
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>>84159033
What the fuck is "no quarters given"? Joyce's father is a moron.
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>>84160332
I pity her poor therapist who probably has to read DoA to get insight into their patient.
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>>84160719
I think that anon was inferring the exact opposite.

Though looking at some pride parades, one has to wonder...
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>>84161196
Cerberus' posts are a goldmine for a therapist. One of the biggest issues with therapy is getting the patient to open up and not censor themselves; Cerberus puts it all out there with every post.
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>>84160687
As proven by all of the examples that can be provided, and the numerous scientific studies.


kek
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>>84159104
>>84159074
Joyce refused to stop being friends with non-Christians and said that she would live her faith her own way.
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>>84161162
Willis probably thinks the phrase's "no mercy" meaning is derived from not giving change to poor people.
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>>84161460
That makes no cents. I've got to save that mistake for a pun in a conversation about money.
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>>84161308
I meant the comic itself, which the therapist would presumably have to read and think about even more than us.
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>>84161408
>As proven by all of the examples that can be provided, and the numerous scientific studies.

of what, exactly?
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>>84160687
>being straight is a choice
anon you're a bisexual in denial, stop trying to pray the gay away
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>>84161573
Nature, you nit. Homosexuality exists in nature outside of just humans.
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>>84161680

So you're really comparing humans to animals?

If animals do it, then it's ok for humans to do it?
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>>84161780
Humans are evolved animals you twit.
And one of the few animals that have intercourse for more than just procreation.
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>>84159601

I don't get why you can't hide the thread and move on, autist.
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>>84159666

People will spin anything to rationalize their sins
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>>84160332

He, anon.
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>>84161798
Calling me names, isn't going to make you magically correct.

You can't prove homosexual behavior is a sign of being "evolved" since less-evolved animals also do it. So in fact, you actually just showed that humans being homosexual is lesser-animal behavior.

Congratulations!
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>>84161938
>less-evolved animas
you dont know a fucking thing about evolution do you
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>>84161938
We are nothing but mere mammals.
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>>84161955
>you dont know a fucking thing about evolution do you

Prove it, because you seem to be implying that all animals are equally evolved
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>>84141233
>Paul
>any ability to dictate who may judge beyond the LORD

This isn't Judaism, anon.
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>>84162045
yes, all animals are equally evolved
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>>84162045
>>84162172
there isn't an equal, all animals are evolved, full stop. they've simply specialized for different characteristics.

clearly victims of the american public education system. thanks alot, obama.
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>>84162045

The idea of an animal being "more evolved" than another one from its same moment in time is weird in the first place. That is not how evolution works. It's not about always constantly looking for an "evolved ideal". It's about the shit that works surviving, and thus motivating more shit that works. Simple as that.
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>>84143894
This.

Islam was certainly progressive for it's time, but likes the necessary wiggle room to be compatible with modern-day society.
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http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/146694217467/did-you-ever-dip-your-communion-wafers-in-grape

>no wine at communion

the fuck?
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>>84162753
IIRC, it is a thing with different Protestant sects that communion only includes "wine" on special occasions like Easter.
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>>84162753
Rev. Welch invented the way to make grape juice not ferment into wine, so there'd be no reason for a devout Christian to imbibe the devil alcohol. He ended up making a successful side business out of it.
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>>84161962
well some of us are cannibals, who cut other people open like cantaloupes
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This SMBC probably isn't specifically a reference to Becky. Most of the Tumblr generation is like this.

I still thought of her immediately when I saw it.
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>>84163305
Now replace that narcissist with That Becky.
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>>84161486
"So let's talk about what you see in DoA. ...No, I don't mean from a therapeutic perspective, I mean HOW CAN YOU ENJOY THIS GARBAGE"
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>>84163383
>I can't believe I just spent $100 defending my favorite web comic from my therapist!
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>>84163295
But if we can hump dead animals and antelopes
Then there's no reason that a man and another man can't elope
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>>84163586
You're a slut and you're gonna be divorced at age 28.
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>>84138285
Paul's letters are just, like, his opinion, man.

And Leviticus is out the fucking window.
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>>84159640
>>84161162
I'm more annoyed by "like your old dad", when "like your old man" is something actual human beings say.
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>>84163919

Except that it's fucking degeneracy and sexual perversion
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>>84142995
Once you're into symbolic cannibalism, mate, I think treating the faux-blood like dipping sauce is the least of your worries.
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>>84161938
...But heterosexual sex is also a behavior exhibited by less-evolved animals...
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>>84137706
I love seeing some passive-aggressive church ladies. Ahh. Old tropes.
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>>84159033


eeeew. Terrible parenting.

Might do an edit
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>>84164696
Now we know where Joshua's Nazi tendencies come from.
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>>84164764

Does anyone have the full "It starts like that. Feeling small." something something "turns good men into cruel" quote?
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>>84164853
>That's how it starts, sir. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel.

>>84164764
Sexy Nazi Josh pinup when?
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>>84164764
> You will never breed glorious arayan babies with Joyce
Just FML senpai.
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>>84164764

Jocelyn "You can use whatever gender Gas Chamber you identify as" Brown

Jocelyn "Gas the kikes, but spare the dykes" Brown

Jocelyn "My pronouns are Ra/Ho/Wa" Brown
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>>84165239
"Ten Ton Trans Terror of Tel Aviv" is probably my favorite nickname, followed by "Holocauster Tycoon."
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>>84165329

Yeah, I kinda want more Nazi Jocelyn edits just so I can make more nazi nickname jokes.
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>>84165369
Hopefully Jocelyn will show up again before the arc is over. Speaking of which, why aren't Jocelyn and John at church? They're in town and John presumably works for the church.
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>>84165100
>you will never mock Jocelyn as she tries to excuse her degeneracy during sex
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>>84138981
>Can't understand a single word answer.

Like how simply do we have to make it for you?
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>>84146400
Is laughing your coping mechanism?
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>>84138380
Since when is the New Testament not considered a part of the bible?
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>>84159307
Yeah stupid dyke expecting her life long friends to be understanding and supportive when her life falls apart. The sooner she figures out all Christians are evil and starts worshipping Satan the happier she'll be
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>>84167362
Thats not what I'm saying. I'm saying she knows her family's background and how they are going to give her shit, and she invited herself along. She is pretty much asking to be treated shitty. This isn't a fucking attack on christianty, you fucking idiot. Where did you fucking get that idea? I was saying from her perspective she knows how Christians typically treat faggots, you uppity christ fag cunt. Jesus calm your tits.
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>>84161477
Yeah the whole speech is a damp squid
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>>84137706
Is this still taking place on one of the many campus churches, because apparently campuses have several churches in Willisworld?
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>>84161780
The argument that homosexualitie is unnatural and therefore against God's will. But if it occurs in nature it is by definition natural and therefore part of God's plan
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>>84161833
>People will spin anything to rationalise their bigotry
Ftfy
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>>84167594
There are also pedo-monkeys too, I don't know what that means.
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>>84167567
No, Joyce went back to her hometown for the weekend. This is her church.
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>>84140492
Don't do it anon. Binge read on a better webcomic instead of this one.
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>>84167567
Campuses have churches in the real world too.
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>>84163315
Okay.
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>>84137706
I would be way more interested in seeing Becky and Dina have a discussion about Becky's faith. Especially since they care for and about each other and disagree.

It would also be better if Carol seemed to care about Becky at all after her basically being a second daughter to her. Like imagine going through Becky getting dressed by Carol, and she's explaining how she knows everyone at the church will look down on her, so she's hoping the dress will help. You could still have her trying to normalize her femininity to reduce her gayness, but it could at least come from a place of compassion rather than distaste.

Instead we get weird snipes like this that make it pretty clear that Carol doesn't care about her.

*And I know some people are gonna be like, "she doesn't have to care about her, she's just some dyke who put her daughter in danger." There were people in threads saying that Carol would obviously want to defend Ross because they're family friends and he literally threatened to kill her daughter. At the very least she could stand by Becky in a similar fashion.
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>>84167443
Woah, chill dude I'm just shit posting but if I was making a point it would be that the church and the Brown's house has always been a place of safety and comfort for Becky. It makes sense that she would turn to them in a time of crises. It's entirely possible that it wouldn't even occur to her that they wouldn't treat her the same as always. That may be naive but we've seen that Becky is naive.
And for the record I'm an atheist, I still don't appreciate Willis' depiction of Christianity
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>>84153242
Good taste.
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>>84159666
Devil Trips? Nice try Satan.
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>>84161803
I don't get why you watch videos of your mother being fisted by pakis.
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>>84167654
The assertion was made that homosexualitie is unnatural and therefore a sin. I dispute that argument be pointing out that animals engage in homosexul acts in nature.
Your turn to tell me why gays are still sinners.
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I've never gotten the "unnatural is against God's will" thing. You know what else isn't natural? Clothing. But God gave us clothes.
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>>84168784
Nah, I think clothing is a byproduct of eating the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. I recall Adam and Eve eating from the Tree of Knowledge, recognizing they were naked, and covering themselves in shame. That's where the whole fig leaf imagery comes from.
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>>84168784
And humans are the only animals that enjoy spicy food, am I a sinner for liking chillies?
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>>84150551
And this isn't?
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>>84168962
No, but cotton/poly blends are the work of the devil.
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>>84167738
>several
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>>84169101
Fourteen places of worship on campus or within walking distance at the University of Alabama.
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>>84163305
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>>84170452
>the mouth in panel four
god bless
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>>84163305
Not paying back loans is the only negative thing here, though. And maybe saying what you want if what you want to say is cruel or offensive.
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>>84170452

posted

t. tumblr anon
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>>84170585

Did you miss the second panel?
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>>84147323
Shut up Joe
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>>84170452
You are too good for this sinful world.
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>>84170452
Great art, Frost! And in style.
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>>84158770
Protestants have communion too.
In fact, one of the earliest splits within the Protestant movement was over communion.
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>>84159033
"Well, gee, Clark, maybe you SHOULD have just let that bus full of kids die!"
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>>84170452
>>84170506
>Didn't realize that's a mouth in fourth panel
it's even better, now.
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>>84166852
> Consensual sex in the missionary position for procreation
> She considers it twisted and depraved anyway
3cute7me
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>>84172303
Re-read the sentence.
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>>84174066
I wonder how hard it'd be to consistently write Mary as a petty asshole that nevertheless actually cares about people.
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>>84174187
>Mary crying while calling Ruth a selfish jerk and a terrible RA for holing up in her room instead of getting some professional help.
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>>84174269
Too weepy on Mary's part. Mary would be calling her a pathetic dyke who needs to pull her head out of her ass, cancel the pity party, and get herself squared out.
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>>84174329
Mary just R Lee Emory-s Ruth's ass into gear? I could dig it.
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>>84159033
Isn't kind of arrogant to assume other believers/denominations are corrupt just because their practices doesn't feel right?

Presumably they're using their own moral compass just as you and came to different conclusions, what? out of all the people in the world God chose YOU for the correct interpretation of his word?
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>>84174445
That's the problem with fundamentalism in a nutshell.

>>84174372
Great, now I want those edits.
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>>84174445
>Isn't kind of arrogant to assume other believers/denominations are corrupt just because their practices doesn't feel right?
This is Willis' problem, and why he's so shitty to people. He lost his faith, but he didn't lose this attitude.
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>>84175445
>tfw willis reminds me of myself when I was 15
>when I had just finally given up on my faith and was aggressively anti-religion
I'm 26 now and I've grown the fuck up despite having actual reasons to hate religion. how hasn't willis?
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>>84172993
> Joyce
> Being timid and self depreciating over plain vanilla
How is this not cute?
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>>84175632
Jocelyn, not Joyce.
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>>84138176
Sage is a thing. But even a sage can be tempting to reply to, I suppose.
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>>84175699
Jocelyn?
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>>84167979
>It would also be better if Carol seemed to care about Becky at all after her basically being a second daughter to her. Like imagine going through Becky getting dressed by Carol, and she's explaining how she knows everyone at the church will look down on her, so she's hoping the dress will help. You could still have her trying to normalize her femininity to reduce her gayness, but it could at least come from a place of compassion rather than distaste.
You know, what's sad is that that *could* have happened, but Willis decided not to show us. We have no idea if she was being nice or not when picking a dress out for Becky.

Becky tells us nothing about the experience. Carol could have been perfectly sweet to her, and we would never know.
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>>84175794
Yeah, Joyce's trans brother.
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>>84176002
completely forgot about him/her.
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>>84175500
Because Willis never accepted 4chan into his life
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>>84176035
wouldn't that make a person hate religion MORE?
I've grown to accept that while I'm not christian anymore, a lot of people are, and they find solace and comfort in it.

I mean, shit
>accepting different viewpoints
that shit isn't 4chan.
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>>84176061
It's more that you can't censor out viewpoints you don't like on an individual level and, due to the anonymity, you can't assume that people are just messing with you.
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>>84175947
Yeah, it really bugs me. That dress bit is entirely in the comic just so Joyce can react to it, we get very little from Becky in the aftermath and nothing from Carol. I know the comic is ostensibly about Joyce*, but it's really ... strange/offputting to take someone's moment and delete them from it so it becomes their friend's moment. (Also, I imagine the trope of using a queer person's issues just to be opportunities for allies to show their empathy would be looked down upon, but lots of the comic feels like that, and I haven't seen that issue raised)

*This didn't stop Becky from getting her fuck off speech to Ross or the flashback ghosts in her house, for example.
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>>84177290
I agree--it's like she was transplanted into the dress or just like she's an acting coming in from off-stage with the dress on because the scene changed.

It does seem a lot like >(Also, I imagine the trope of using a queer person's issues just to be opportunities for allies to show their empathy would be looked down upon, but lots of the comic feels like that, and I haven't seen that issue raised) is the case.

Consider Ethan and Joyce's relationship. Amber tries to take that choice from him, and the storyline becomes less about Ethan and Joyce coping together and more about how it makes Amber feel.

And the same applies to Danny and Ethan saying that they can't date because it would hurt Amber.

Ruth can't be with Billie because it bothers Mary and higher-ups.

Becky didn't really *choose* Dina. Dina chose to kiss her because of pressure from a bunch of her straight friends/acquaintances.

Marcie and Malaya were kept apart so we could see Sal getting jealous and possessive.

Every queer relationship hinges upon how it affects straight people.
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>Good things happened to me
>That means I'm alright with God

That's not how it works. That is prosperity theology and it is literally heresy.
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>>84177290
The comic at this point is an ensemble with Joyce as the primary focus. The fact we only see Joyce's reaction to the dress creates an incongruity with Carol and Becky's conflict, as it shows that Carol has some concern about Becky's well-being. But I'll agree that this arc should have a shared viewpoint between Becky and Joyce.
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So /co/

what are your honest opinions on dumbing of age?

For me, I feel strangely disappointed. David Willis is obviously a shitty person, and, having read Shortpacked, I had an idea of what to expect...yet I found myself not just writing it off.

There's a LOT of good things in DoA. Even the shittiest characters have good moments here and there, and despite his best efforts, even some of the irredeemably shitty characters have good moments.

Despite that, Willis fails so, SO often to accurately depict the conflict he's trying to show.

For example, look at Carla. Willis did a great job hinting at her being trans. I can believe Ruth actually making an attempt to care about the people on her floor, but Willis constantly flipflops between her being a turbo cunt and her actually making the effort. Mary has a valid reason to be angry, but rather than show her being reasonable, he just immediately turned her into a massive, MASSIVE cunt.

So I dislike the comic, but I want to keep reading because I do think there is some good there. I think Willis CAN improve, but he's not going to because he's deathly allergic to criticism.
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>>84177515
Depends on the sect.
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>>84177515
at least it's understandable, in context.
>grow up super religious
>start doing things you were raised to believe are sins
>find yourself doubting parts of your core beliefs
>then your religious father shows up
>and fantastic things happen to protect you from him
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>>84177443
Dina didn't choose to kiss Becky because of direct pressure to do so, she did it to, essentially, spite them for their overprotective behavior towards her.

>>84177515
Prosperity theology is a completely different concept and even so, it's entirely possible that the church they attend follows prosperity gospel.
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>>84177559
Good character building and setup ruined by a mediocre writer who won't address his flaws or take a step back and examine his plots. Mostly inoffensive, frequently entertainingly stupid, occasionally stumbling into something good.
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>>84177711
>it's entirely possible that the church they attend follows prosperity gospel.

What's their denomination?

'Cause that statement's gettin' into some culty, heretical karma bullshit no matter what.
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>>84177690

>Fantastic things happen

Three people showed up, that ain't divine intervention.
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>>84177559
I feel ya, man. I started reading it in the first week, and as I said recently, it went from a reasonable slice-of-life comic to an unending drama machine.

His characters and plots have the potential to be complex and interesting, but as you said, he fails at showing this--pretty much every time.

>>84177559
>Mary has a valid reason to be angry, but rather than show her being reasonable, he just immediately turned her into a massive, MASSIVE cunt.
He likes to stick with being 2-dimensional so everyone knows who to root for. But the problem is that he assumes everyone feels the way he does. So Mary being occasionally rude to Carla makes her a villain, not someone who is trying to mind her own business and is asking for space and peace. She is automatically a villain because she was rude to super-duper-special Carla, despite her having valid complaints.

The same is true of every other character. Sal is cool because every character says she is. If she does something uncool, then it is automatically overruled by her previously established coolness.

They aren't allowed to have any depth at all.
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>>84177859
That dumb fucking superhero shit was fantastic, I guess.
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>>84177859
none of the shit that happened followed the rules of physics, the only logical explanation is god(willis)
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>>84177711
>she did it to, essentially, spite them for their overprotective behavior towards her.
And that's the point. She didn't kiss Becky because she was attracted to her. It was spurred on by how other characters treat her, rather than her own desires.
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>>84177839
I believe they're supposed to be non-denominational.

Becky's statement isn't prosperity theology, as it makes no statement about material wealth and the notion that the Lord will come to the aid of the faithful is common among many Christian philosophies.
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>>84166852

>>His

>>He
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>>84167635
KIndly keep your "favors" to yourself. It was neither asked for nor appreciated.

I stated exactly what I wanted to in no uncertain terms.
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>>84177904
I still don't think that'd really count as the complaint is about how queer relationships revolve around how they make straight characters feel. Considering that the only real conversation about their relationship was Dina and Sarah talking about the implications for Dina, I'd say it doesn't count.
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>>84177873
>The same is true of every other character. Sal is cool because every character says she is. If she does something uncool, then it is automatically overruled by her previously established coolness.

A lot of stuff like this relies on characterization from previous universes as well. Sal was a loner badass anti-hero and sometimes villain in It's Walky, so a lot of that carried over. Roz and Malaya were disliked by the main cast in Shortpacked and that dislike carried over without it ever being justified that much in this comic. Negative reaction to Roz is the reason "bitch" is censored to "bongo" on his site. Malaya mostly treats Sal like garbage but it's reciprocated behaviour, and Sal has been shown to be anti-social anyway.

Heck, when Willis got mad at someone for thinking that his Mary writing wasn't doing the job, he was like "SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN EVIL, EVEN SINCE ROOMIES!!!!"
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>>84178143
>not using their preferred pronouns while calling attention to the biology that runs opposite

Your humiliation and degradation game is weak, anon.
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>>84178232

It's more of a stone cold reality and statement of fact game
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>>84178518
The context of this reply chain is a sexual encounter with a trans neo-Nazi.
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>>84178587


Ah. My mistake

Carry on then
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>>84177515
>That is prosperity theology and it is literally heresy.

It's also a very common mindset.
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Tomorrow's strip. Looks like Joyce's parents are even more of a divided front than she thought.
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>>84180340
"It almost feels easier if they were monsters."

Holy SHIT. Willis just cut right to the core of both himself and his devoted band of commenters, and I'll bet he doesn't even realize it. This is just SAD.
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>>84180340
>You don't know that these folks are monsters yet
This is incredibly awkwardly worded
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>>84180340
>We don't know that these folks are monsters yet.
Lemme help you out with that, joycedad. They're not.

Also, "yet" implies they are monsters, she just hasn't found out yet, but her dad is acknowledging she will.

>>84180472
>Willis just cut right to the core of both himself and his devoted band of commenters
Kinda funny that he portrays them as balanced people who give others the benefit of the doubt, which is nothing like him.
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>>84180472
I think Willis might realize it, just shun it. I'd wager that most of his commenters won't get it or will get pissy at the assumption that they're not all monsters. Just look at how some of them reacted to Hank.
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>>84180340
Wait, so the implication in panels one and two is that they've recently begun going to this church.
But the implication in previous strips is that they've been going to the church long enough for the church regulars to be familiar with Joyce, Becky, and their respective families, enough that they openly share their opinions with others regarding the current events to have befallen the two.

I'm confused.
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>>84180617
Nah, the "change churches again" is referring to how they used to change more often, but they've been here for a while.
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>>84180559
>Also, "yet" implies they are monsters, she just hasn't found out yet, but her dad is acknowledging she will.

I think that's reaching, but Willis did word it awkwardly. It's more that Hank knows that some in the church will be more inclined to support Ross than Becky. It's not like the congregation will rip off their faces to reveal the horrid truth before they attempt to sacrifice Joyce and Becky to their twice-dead God who lives eternal only to be thwarted when Joe crashes through the stained glass above the alter on a motorcycle and saves them by cutting a bloody swath through the pews with a sawed off shotgun and molotovs.
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>>84180559
>>84180594

I understand that Willis and his fans need to make sweeping generalizations about people and avoid certain groups on principle just to get through the day. That's fine. Hell, I do that myself, and I'm willing to bet that a good chunk of people do too.

...It's just that Willis and his fans won't admit that that's what they're doing, which is aggravating as hell. It makes me wonder where they draw the line. How terrible do you have to be before you can no longer use "I'm a victim!" as an excuse? Do they even HAVE that kind of standard for themselves? I honestly don't know anymore.
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>>84180706
>Do they even HAVE that kind of standard for themselves?

Considering how they defend Carla, who is by all accounts an obnoxious, privileged as all fuck, trust fund baby, I'd say no. Granted, one of the biggest Carla supporters is blatantly living vicariously through the character so it's hard to tell. The "I'm a victim" excuse isn't really unique to them; it's a matter of human nature to absolve ourselves of thoughts and action incongruous with our professed beliefs.
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>>84180706
It makes it easier to be on the Winning Side when you're convinced that there's boogiemen all around you, and you're part of an underground movement that are the only ones aware of them.
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>>84180340

>You don't know that these folks are monsters yet. They could still be people.

It is amazing to me how often Willis can invoke Poe's law with this stuff.

Bigots aren't monsters. They're very human. Calling them monsters just gives you a convenient excuse to act superior and not deal with them. At best this solves nothing, and at worst it blinds you to the fact that the biases that affect them can affect you in almost the exact same way.

Good job, Willis. You've encapsulated the problem with modern progressivism in one speech bubble.
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Any other Catholics a bit triggered by all this? I always get rankled a bit when I see low church Protestants and their 'communion.'
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>>84181010
Why would I be triggered? People like Willis couldn't handle Catholicism, they need their diet coke version.
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>>84180922
Willis and his posse are nothing like the bullies and bigots that oppressed them: Because they're on the Winning Side.
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>>84181166
Well, yeah, that goes without saying, but even taking that into account this crackers-and-grape-juice shit isn't even in the same level of reality as the Eucharist. It gets under my skin a bit.
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>>84181166
>>84181266
Having grown up Catholic I never understood all the infighting and shit between the different Christian groups. Everyone thinks Jesus is a pretty cool guy. When I was like 10 or 11 a friend of mine's mom who was Baptist quizzed me about being Catholic like we were some strange creature.

Like shit, Catholicism is one of the oldest sects of Christianity, we're one of the OGs how the fuck do you not know about their shit?
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>>84181338
Because Catholicism contains a shitton of rituals, beliefs, and structures not found in any other branch of Christianity.

>>84181010
As a Greek Orthodox I think you need climb down off your high horse.
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>>84177515
No, Becky is right. She is the favorite daughter of her god.
http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted
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>>84180472
I can't tell if Willis occasionally stumbles into self-awareness or if he doesn't realize that he is just as bad as his enemies.
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>>84181679
>Becky will never meet her god and chew him out for letting all the bad things affect Joyce while leaving her free of consequence
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>>84178012

There is an equally strong streak praising martyrdom, and that you will be rewarded in heaven for your suffering on earth.

Then there's the temptation of Jesus: "Thou shalt not tempt the lord thy god".

I'm no theologian, but boasting about how god loves you because of your good fortune? Ask Job how badly that shit can go sideways.

>>84180849

The litany of tribalism: "I believe good is something inherent to us. I believe good must be demonstrated by them. I believe we must be judged by our intentions not our actions. I believe their actions grow out of bad intentions."
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>>84181958
Job has a completely different context though, a better example would someone like Solomon. Either way the argument is Carol claiming that Becky's lesbianism puts her at odds with the Lord while Becky claims that if that were true he would not have interceded on her behalf through the actions of others. If anything they're both committing the same sin of pride in claiming to know the will of God.
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>>84159640
>I see a lot of Willis' inflexible shittiness in what is being espoused here

>>84180340
And it continues! This is really harmful rhetoric. First off, dividing humanity into those who and those who can't and using such extremes . And even choosing to look at those that might come over as monsters because it's EASIER!

Also I like that Joyce (and Willis himself I'd imagine) needed a really specific situation to get the "correct" view towards homosexuals, but she won't extend that courtesy to anyone else. Hypocrisy is fun!

Is it any wonder that Willis can simultaneously present himself as a martyr while being one of the most shitty assholes to anyone who critiques him? This is literally how he looks at the world.

>Looks like Joyce's parents are even more of a divided front than she thought.
Well Willis' parents did end up divorcing...
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>>84181464
>need climb down off your high horse.
When they get off their horses they tend to start slaughtering their fellow Christians.
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>>84182100

Of course there's the possibility that the Devil might intercede, because Becky living could be beneficial to his interests
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>>84137706

That spiteful, smug look makes me hate her more than before

If Joyce's mother is supposed to be in the wrong, how exactly is Becky supposed to be acting any better? Someone else's poor behaviour is not an excuse for poor behaviour on your part
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>>84182173
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Did the last strip still say "no quarters" when it got to the real page? I don't want to get sucked into the comments.
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>>84168557
Because god specifically calls it an abomination or do you need more
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>>84182506
Yes.
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That "yet" is so fucking scary.

people are just people, not many are monsters.

but since she tried and it didn't work i do think just leaving is the correct thing to do.
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>>84168557
>I dispute that argument be pointing out that animals engage in homosexul acts in nature.
Naturalistic fallacy.

Also elephants are known to engage in pedophilia.
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>>84182776
you just know there's going to be AT LEAST one more event of becky shenanigans, causing everything to blow up.
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>>84137706
It's not about being right it's about being confirmed is that lesbo confirmed?
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>>84182845
I imagine the congregation and/or pastor and/or youth pastor will see Joyce leaving early, claim that Becky's bad influence is corrupting her, and then Joyce will get angry at them.
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>>84182845

i'm thinking something will happen when they go get her to leave.
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>>84182506

Yup. It uses it twice. Willis really thinks that's what the phrase is. Which is kinda weird. Has he ever heard it before or seen it written? You'd think that sort of idiosyncrasy would have been beaten out of him by now.
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>>84184103
what are the odds he thinks it literally means "no twenty-five cent coins given?"
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>>84182824
I agree but I wasn't the one asserting unnatural=immoral I was simply pointing out that under those terms anon's argument didn't hold up.

The idea of bringing animals into a moral discussion is kind of silly. Paedophilia for example is wrong because it is harmful and degrading not because it is "unnatural" but that wasn't the argument being made so I didn't address it
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>>84182948
She's been going to that church with her strongly religious family her whole life. So yes
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>>84182824
Technically speaking in the non-human animal world, an animal doesn't really have an age of consent. If an animal reaches maturity (being able to reproduce) the animal breeds in order to keep it's species alive. Also hormones and all that jazz

Not trying to defend rapists or pedophilia here, just pointing out you can't use this as an adequate example because non-human animals don't have enforced legal laws, or have the financial responsibility of raising their young.
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>>84182368
That's not really a thing that could happen under a lot of fundie Christian doctrines.
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>>84143019
Good thing the Old Testament doesn't matter I guess?
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>>84184113
... Fairly good.
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>>84147323
>namefag
>"interpreted"

It has been labeled as a sin in all relevant churches for the better part of 2000 years. Faux Christians on the internet afraid of hurting feelings don't change that.
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Are you afraid of monsters, /co/?
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>>84184113
bout 25%
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>>84176061
>I mean, shit
>>accepting different viewpoints
>that shit isn't 4chan.

It really fucking *is*, though, and it's why I find 4chan so goddamn valuable. No, wait, hear me out.

I honestly believe that the bantz, casual racism/nationalism/bigotry, and GIFT shit are all good things for users who stay on the site for more than a week or two. You quickly come to see those as reinforcements of a LACK of identity, as you never know when people are just fucking with you. I mean, believing people are arguing in sincerity on 4chan is a risky damn gamble in the first place, and believing that they are who they say they are is outright stupid. This is evident.

So, what happens from there? While discussing shit, you fall into a pattern of both feeling less ties to your constructed identity, and you assume that the fella you're arguing with is a literal dog in front of a computer. And it's kind of hard to hate dogs, man, even when they're shitting all over things, because they're fluffy and cute.

So, really, despite the fucked up language we use, the typical 4chan poster doesn't treat discussing their ideology as something that has "stakes." There's more of a need to be funny or witty than to reinforce your tribal signalling. And in the end?

I think being funny and witty are goals that net truth more than MUH RED TEAM/MUH BLUE TEAM.
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>>84176061
To the contrary because 4chan is so cosmopolitan and causes everyone of different colors and creeds to brush up against one another you end up becoming more tolerant in the long run than people on websites where censorship is allowed
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>>84159297
>God answers the prayers of sinners who are determined to keep sinning

Maybe those who are repentent
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>>84186389
>>84186398
goddamn, I never thought of that like that.
>the internet hate machine made a guy who was literally tortured by christians in god's name as a child more tolerant of christians than a comic writer who was raised by nice christians

goddamn.
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>>84159580
Beating up a woman who is also a lesbian would carry a heavier sentence because of betamax/feminist judges and hate crime laws so I think Becky's pretty protected even if she doesn't bother to carry- because let's be honest Willis probably thinks guns are the devil
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>>84182951

One thing for absolute certain.

It will be retarded as all fuck-out
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>>84184312

Besides, animals can't be held to the same standards as humans.

Otherwise we'd have to arrest them all for public nudity
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>>84168784
Because it has been considered a sin by Christian tradition for thousands of years

Are you retarded or something?
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>>84184103
What the fuck, he actually named that comic Quarters? Does Willis think that "giving quarters" means paying the price for admission or something?
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>>84158298
>>84137706
>>84144759
Hallmark probably means not wacky cartoony bullshit

Willis thinks in terms of children's cartoons, he's writing this like Looney Tunes or Tom and Jerry while also trying to tell a serious story
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>>84186464
The internet hate machine grew up, anon. Just like /co/ isn't love anymore. It got all fucky and complicated somewhere along the line, but I can't call it a bad thing.
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>>84186742

Considering his penchant for NOT talking like a rational human being, it wouldnt surprise me if he did.
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If it's not "no quarters given", then what IS the idiom?
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>>84187347
give no quarter.

not quarters.
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>>84187423
Ah.
And what exactly does it mean?
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>>84187461
don't allow your enemy to gain ground or an advantage.

remain relentless in your assault.
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>>84187347
In war, when you take enemy soldiers prisoner, you're giving them quarter.

Basically it means showing no mercy in the face of the enemy.
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>>84186389
>>84186398
So much this. If I only wanted to talk to people that agreed with me I'd be on tumblr
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>>84162753

Man, it feels good to be a Catholic.

...well, not really, because of the no birth control thing and the you're bisexual so you're inherently sinful thing and the widespread molestation thing and...

...at least we get to drink.
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>>84186474
Probably best not to beat up people that annoy you then. Just incase they turn out to be lesbians, wouldn't want to take any chances
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>>84177559
>Mary has a valid reason to be angry, but rather than show her being reasonable, he just immediately turned her into a massive, MASSIVE cunt.

I think the Mary thing is what finally broke me. Even as I laughed at Toedad I still had some emotional investment in the comic. The whole "you shouldn't have to be a perfect angel in order to avoid getting insulted for being trans" thing? Just fucking bullshit. I'm not trans, but I am bi, and back in high school (before I even knew who I was, but evidently other people did) I'd get called a faggot for doing pretty much anything. I didn't have to act like a giant asshole in order for someone to be cruel to me, I just had to exist. Which is what Willis TRIES to retroactively do--Carla's big revenge plan is just a "fuck you, I exist" gesture--except he already had her act like a remorseless asshole for ten strips before the bitchy religious chick finally snapped. The insane insistence on Carla getting to act like a giant bitch and getting off scot-free because you can't ever deadname or misgender someone, not even when they've been tormenting you for hours...the refusal to give Mary a SHRED of nuance and the decision to turn her into Snidely fucking Whiplash...just drove me insane. I'm just in it to laugh and mock now.

Except for Ethan/Danny. I want to see Ethan/Danny.
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>>84187887
I also legit enjoy joyce's interactions with her family(aside from her mom)
>trans brother/sister
>dad
>gay? brother
>hypocritical missionary brother
also dorothy a qt.
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>>84181227

god that was such a stupid costume
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>>84180922
>>84182106
To be fair, calling people you think to be morally incorrect 'monstrous' is not uncommon, if hyperbolic, and is especially not uncommon from Joycedad's perspective.

He's used to vast, black-and-white moral statements.
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>>84187887
I still like the womanizer guy, Danny's roommate. Forgot his name.

I'm amazed that Willis hasn't ruined him yet. He's like a reminder of what this comic could be if it weren't becoming an increasingly fervent and cluttered rant.
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>>84188085
That's Joe.
We're supposedly on track for him to go to the Bone Zone with Joyce, if that helps.
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>>84185726
Eh, Modern Christians basically pick and choose which parts of Bible match their beliefs and psychosis already, and base their faith on that.
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>>84186793
That would probably explain parts of the Carla/Mary arc. Doing a Bugs vs Daffy rivalry in real life isn't nearly as amusing and charming as Willis thinks it would be.
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>>84181775
You're actually on the wrong side of Poe's law here.
That panel is a strawman meant to invoke "Right wingers project their own cynicism upon social justice because they can't conceptualize it as being sincere"

The response of "That's totally right though, Willis" probably elevates it from a strawman to a "legitimate point" albeit a poorly leveraged one.
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>>84188592
Those Christians are most definitely going to hell

It is a very central part of the Christian religion that the Old Testament was the covenant between God and the Hebrews, the New Testament is the covenant between God and the Christians

Jesus Christ is the Messiah and the fulfillment of the prophecies of the Old Testament
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>>84187887
In elementary school they called me Mr. Queer and in middle school this former friend of mine started trying to claim I was gay

As an adult I'm entirely straight

You shouldn't assume that people were magically able to know your sexuality when they're calling you names, most of the time they're just being assholes.
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>>84187919
>gay brother

I seriously hope he's just an atheist. It would be way too implausible to have so many LGBT kids in one family. But then there are so many LGBT people in this comic already that it probably wouldn't be a shock.
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>>84189507
not that guy but my issue with that panel is that

1) it comes out of fucking nowhere in the context of the strip
2) it's a very silly thing to say to an actual bisexual person, even for a fundie who craves reagan's wrinkly balls
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as i understand it, the red haired character is a female in a homosexual relationship, yeah?

but lets say she was was a male who had heterosexual sex outside of marriage

under God's prescribed commandments - both in the Old Testament 'and' the New, that would be illicit sex

then we have the matter of receiving the bread and wine - this is an act of observance for Christians that only believers may partake in

even a heterosexual man who practiced illicit heterosexual sex would be condemning himself by partaking of the bread and wine, since he would be in open rebellion against the commands of the Christ whom that bread and wine signifies

the chief significance being that the bread and wine are signifiers of the body and blood of Jesus who was broken and scourged for Sin - and for someone who unrepentingly remains in the sin of illicit sex to take of the bread and wine, is to make mockery of Christ's sacrifice

and to make mockery of Christ, is to blaspheme the most Holy God - for which there are grave penalties - so unbelievers and the unrepentant are warned not to receive of the Lord's table, lest they be under God's wrath


~


*other terms apply for
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>>84191054
>is to make mockery of Christ's sacrifice

Look, this isn't me being a fedoralord, given that I do respect a lot of what Christianity is responsible for. It's an honest question, because I'm ignorant.

How the fuck is symbolic cannibalism not itself making a mockery of Christ's sacrifice? What's the logic there?
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>>84191149
It's a recreation of the ritual lead by Jesus himself and undertaken by his disciples at the last supper.
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>>84191149
>How the fuck is symbolic cannibalism not itself making a mockery of Christ's sacrifice? What's the logic there?

on the night of his betrayal, Christ himself commanced his disciples to 'eat this in rememberance of me'

i'm not sure where you get the idea that it's 'symbolic cannibalism', but i'll let that slide so to better explain the symbolism

in a similar mode to Baptism representing that one is in fellowship with Jesus (being joined to Him) and has 'died' to their old life and 'resurrected' to a new one - the plunging into water symbolising death and the rising back out of it again, life - when one eats of the bread and wine, they are saying that they too are joined with Christ in his sacrifice

this is part of the 'Great Exchange' where the perfect man, who has lived a sinless life, exchanges His righteousness with all those sinners who repent and put their trust in Him - so we eat the bread and wine to remember what he has done for us, and to proclaim that we have placed our trust in His sacrifice to save us

there are numerous other facets to taking the bread and wine, but these are some of the more overt ones
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>>84191388
>i'm not sure where you get the idea that it's 'symbolic cannibalism'
they might be more familiar with transubstantiation, where it becomes the actual flesh and blood of christ.
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>>84191425
yeah, i thought that might be an element* - but i didn't want to muddy the waters by annoying anyone within the RCC tradition


~


*no pun intended
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Finished this strip.
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>>84137706
Why don't fags just all go full atheist? It's fucking retarded when they make these queer friendly Christian churches since the Apostles openly say faggots won't be saved.
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>>84138781
Fuck off, you fucking know this scene was for his audience of SJW to go "You go gurl!" toward Becky's actions.

To these fucking people there is no such thing as being an asshole if you're doing it to Christians, straight people or whites.
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>>84187748
>widespread molestation

Don't fucking feed the new secular Black Legends. While the cover ups were wrong, there aren't more fucking pedophiles in the Catholic clergy than other religions or organizations that work with children.

We let fucking Protestants feed the idiots of the world their meme that the Inquisition killed millions of people when at most it was 5000 in 350 years of existing. I sure as fuck am not going to let people casually push the "Hurr pedo priests" meme.
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>>84191149
Because Jesus himself told his Apostles to do so in memory of him.
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>>84180340
And for once a Willis!Dad isn't a horrible jerk!
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>>84192323
Didn't it turn out that every church in Belgium was implicated in that shit? I know it's not an especially big country, but still... EVERY church.
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>>84181949
>implying Becky cares about Joyce's suffering
>implying anyone should care about straight white people's suffering
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>>84147501
Catholics are Christian, you filthy proddy.
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>>84176061
It used to be, back in the day, you'd have to deal with people you didn't like in the real world all the time. Sure, you could try to avoid them, but in an office full of people, or a large social circle, you were bound to have to put up with your coworkers or your friends' friends. We called this 'tolerance', and we did it to have a social life.

Then the internet happened.

Suddenly, you didn't HAVE to talk to anyone you didn't want to, and for awhile, it was great. You could have forums for Star Trek, Star Gate, X Files, Guitars, Computer Stuff, Disney, where all you would do is talk with people with like interests. Lot of good stuff happened from there.

Then slowly, almost imperceptibly, the internet became more like real life. Certain people and groups owned certain spaces. Like your boss is in charge of your workspace and teachers in charge of schools, progressives came to own some sites and they have their social norms there. You can be shunned, hated and banned if you're too far out there for them. They don't have to listen to anything they don't want to because it's their house, their rules.

4Chan isn't like that. There are some rules, but that's more for organization. You have to put up with stupid people to talk to the better ones. Learn to distinguish who's a troll and who's genuinely stupid. Sure, you can leave whenever you want, but if you want to be here, you learn to deal with stuff.

You learn to put up with others, accept that some have different opinions and move on.

THAT'S tolerance. Leaving well enough alone to get by, even when you don't like it.

>tl;dr 4Chan teaches you more tolerance than tumblr
>because tolerance isn't just for gays and minorities.
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>>84192789
forgot pic.
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I'm but a simple britbong, so forgive my ignorance, but do American universities have clubs or societies or whatever? Y'know, special interest groups? I only ask, because I can't think why Joyce hasn't joined something like that yet, instead of hanging around the horrible, horrible people who pretend they're her friends.
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>>84188085

His gleeful delight in being right about when Danny gets dumped made me dislike him intently
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>>84193503

Well then you better pray that spoileranon is wrong...
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>>84193463
We call them clubs, but yeah, it's unusual not to join at least one.
I was part of a radio station. Met Andrew Bird, Pokey LaFarge, Reverend Horton Heat and Andrew W.K. Some buddies of mine met Jack White.
Whole thing was pretty cash money. Free concert tickets and music.
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>>84187482
>>84187461
"Quarter," more specifically, is a military stationing or housing. "no quarter given" means not giving your enemies any sort of shelter or comfort, as prisoners or otherwise.

For example, 3rd amendment, American Bill of Rights:
>No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law
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>>84193607

Yeah but remember: Willis dropped out after his first year in college, and was an asocial shut-in at best.
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>>84191388

Im not getting the point of using an image that's the exact same size as the thumbnail. Why?

The whole point of expanding it is so you can get a better look at the thumbnail image. You make it the same size, theres really no point
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>>84193752
if you blow it up it looks like this
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>>84193752

Same, I'm at a complete loss for why he'd do something like that.
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>>84192077
>sassy earth
I didn't know i wanted this until now
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>>84189790
Most of the crazy stuff mentioned is in Deuteronomy, which we know is a forgery.

>>84191054
Condemnations against homosexuality in the Bible are either from dubious sources or based purely on subjective contextual analysis.
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>>84192077
Oh, The dewd... you always make me smile.
>>84193503
Everybody has been a cunt at least once, except for Joyce and Dina. What matters is if they all STAY cunts... which, to be fair, most of them have.
>>84193607
We call them societies over here (clubs are more for men of independent means and Bertie Wooster).
>>84193631
There is that, of course.
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>>84194054
>Condemnations against homosexuality in the Bible are either from dubious sources or based purely on subjective contextual analysis.

condemnations of all sexual immorality - including heterosexual fornication - are endemic to scripture

what makes you think homosexuals get a free pass, if the breeders are going to hell?
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>>84142869
> Fists itself while reading bell hooks
woo glad this isn't a YLYL thread
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>>84194158
IIRC there are roughly six passages that can be realistically said to be referring to homosexuality. Two are context based and the words involved have no widely-agreed upon translation, a bunch are in Leviticus and are nulled by Hebrews 8:13, and then there's the passage in Romans, often thought to concern cultural taboos of the time and location concerning prostitution or 'receiving' (we know that homosexuality was not condemned in this period).
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>>84185986
Could I get tree fiddy?
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>>84194434
you are avoiding my question

heterosexual sex outside of marriage is Sin

Sin demands a penalty of eternal seperation from God; which is death

if heterosexual fornication results in eternal death - why would you think homosexuals would not similarly be condemned?
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>>84194531

Because they didn't fornicate?
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>>84194570
define 'fornication'
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>>84194735

Well I'm no bible expert, but last I checked, doesn't it mostly come down to actions? If you're gay and you don't do anything gay, you technically haven't sinned, right?
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>>84194531
Because Jesus Christ, our Lord died to spare us from being punished for our many sins.
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>>84194810
It's sexist activity outside of marriage. If your not married it's fornication if you are married it's adultery. For some religions same sex attraction is fine and acting on it is sin. The big hypocrisy is that they go ape shit for LGBT stuff. But you don't hear these groups going after basic fornication which is essentially the same difference
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>>84194434
>muh Protestantism!

The vast majority of Christians are not autistic protestant children who think laypeople can interpret the bible as well as those who descend from the spiritual lineages of the apostles

The bulk of churches have held homosexuality to be a sin for thousands of years. This is not up for discussion.
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>>84194054
I didn't mention any "crazy shit"

The reality here is that Jesus Christ is the messiah, he came and fulfilled the Old Testament. It is no longer valid as the laws and scripture of God because it simply details the history and laws and prophecies during the era in which God made a covenant with the Hebrew people. Those Hebrews who refused the messiah wrote a book called the Talmud and today are called Jews. Christians follow the New Testament because that is the prophecies, laws and histories of the new covenant with the Christian people, who are God's new chosen people and are called to spread God's good word until all people in the world are Christian and therefore chosen.
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>>84194990
>sexist
"Sexual," I think you mean.

Generally speaking, though, every generation has had trouble trying to stop the previous one from fucking. Humans are fucking machines.
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>>84194810
> If you're gay and you don't do anything gay, you technically haven't sinned, right?

okay, you've probably heard it said that 'God is Love', yeah?

and since God is the final authority on all things moral, and the Judge over all creation, then what He says is 'good' is good, and what He says is 'bad' is bad, right?

so if God is Love, and the One who decides what is 'good' says 'love is always good - and against it there is no law'*; then anything not done out of the motivation of Love is therefore 'bad', aye?

so say someone with same-sex attraction never commits a homosexual act, never having sexual contact with anyone, and not even lusting in his heart over someone, you would judge that he is sinless, right?

i mention that last bit about 'lusting in one's heart' because in Matthew 5:28, Jesus says that lusting in one's heart is adultery (sin) and that having hate in one's heart is murder (sin)

but anywyas, back to our hypotheitical homosexual who never even thinks about sexual fornication with others - well he would be pretty unique, but i suppose it's possible

yet this same hypothetical homosexual is a fallen human being, and being a selfish creature as we all are, then he will often act out of a motivation of selfishness and not Love - and as i mentioned before, anything we do out of selfishness is Sin

and if our hypothetical homosexual friend does not act out of Love toward his Creator, and bowing the knee; commit his whole life to the will of God, then he esteems something more important than God - making an idol of it

and idolatry is another form of fornication

~


*Galations 5:22-23


>>84194835
>Jesus Christ, our Lord died to spare us from being punished for our many sins.

only those whom repent and put their trust in Jesus, may receive that forgiveness

do you really think that people who rebel against God have repented?
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>>84159033
>no quarters given
What the fuck?
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>>84177859
BUT THREE WISE MEN :^ )
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>>84195313

So in other words, the standards to get into heaven are so ridiculously high and the default nature of man is sinful and evil, meaning that vast swathes of the human population are fucked by default?

Sounds familiar...
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>>84195777
>the standards to get into heaven are so ridiculously high

the standard to get into heaven is perfection

God is perfect, and He will allow nothing imperfect to enter into His presence - why should He?
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>>84195919
for being the definition of love, he sure does hate a lot.
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>>84195971
God is by defintion 'Infinite', and so one of his attributes is Infinite Love

and since God holds that anything which is not Love is evil - in that it is against His very essence and nature - then He 'hates' evil; and to not hate Evil, putting it far away from Him, would not be Loving

and as i mentioned, God is Infinite, so his hatred for Evil in also... Infinite

you think it wrong for God to have Infinite Wrath stored up for Evil?
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>>84196138
but he's okay with underage 'love'

and not okay with homosexual love?

love and hate are literally the opposites of each other. if a being IS love, he would not also BE hate.
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>>84196168
love and hate are not 'literally the opposites of each other'

if you loved someone, your love would compel you to hate anything which could harm them

this would then be an aspect of your love, that you would hate anything that could wound your beloved


... so as for your allusions to underage and homosexual 'love' - pic related
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>>84196168
the opposite of love is indifference. hate and love are both expressions of passion, so infinite love is still infinite hate because they're expressions of infinite passion
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>>84196310
You're hardcore Catholic, aren't you?
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>>84195173
Protestants don't like going into deep interpretation though. Generally speaking, that is.

Catholics do. They always have.

>This is not up for discussion.

Everything is up for discussion.
>>
RIP thread that became about weird religious discussion.
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>>84196402
i'm not here to sell you on a denomination, friend

i want you to meet Jesus and then He will guide you to the Church you're meant to serve in
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>>84196548
>Protestants don't like going into deep interpretation though. Generally speaking, that is.

Generally speaking that sounds pretty ignorant considering the sheer amount of Protestant religious interpretation dating back to the Reformation. Half the time I think Catholics are arguing from a position that only assumes mass market paperbacks written by televangelists within the past twenty years counts as Protestant religious interpretation.
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>>84196652
> mass market paperbacks written by televangelists

so uh... not a fan either, huh?


(after i clicked on this i realised it was for a calendar and made a little sick in muh mouf)
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>>84196837
It's certainly no Mere Christianity.

Osteen always looks like his face is going to ride up when he smiles, like his skin isn't attached to anything.
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>>84184589
They specifically talk about moving to different churches until they found the one they liked the most.
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>>84196591

Unless it's a Joel Osteen church in which case you're probably not listening to Jesus right.
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>>84194122
That's weird. If you were to say 'society' on this side of the pond, people would think you meant some secret group, like a secret society.
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>>84196591
Every time I see that robot, I think about how unoriginal its design is. It looks like something you'd buy cheap at some tourist trap
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>>84197365
Vive le difference, I guess.
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>>84148241
>>84148324
After 21 years of going to church, God said I could have one prayer.
I'm using it on this.
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