Diversity in comics industry

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mm the only artist I care about that would be diverse is Sara Pichelli and Olivier Coipel at least from marvel side.


But there is probably more I don't read much superhero comics anymore, don't you know they are shit?

There's a lot of women in comics now compared to like 10 years ago atleast, which is good. But some of those women are Kate Leth-- which is awful.

As far as racial diversity it's shit and it will probably always be shit. I don't have it in me to care about a creator just because they're black and I'm black, I do respect McDuffie tho, even if I wasn't impressed by any of his creations really.

>>84116122
My biggest gripe is the concept of you having to be a specific race to work on a specific character. That being said I'm enjoying the fuck out of Priest's Panther run even though he feels like Marvel's Batman.

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>>84116122
Hmmm. sooo diverse.

>>84116394
>white male liberal faggot only need apply

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>>84116394
They're big guys

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>>84116410
Not for them

>>84116122
What's so great about diversity that it has to supersede merit?

>>84116426
>What's so great about diversity that it has to supersede merit?

Nothing
that is the point

>>84116426
>>84116393

hey, op here I just asked this question out of curiosity and I think it's a question worth asking not because I think we need to replace good writers with other people because of their color that's stupid.

but to be honest now it's not like the writers we have now does a good job

>>84116426

Diversity doesn't preclude merit.

>>84116410
>album drops next week

>>84116426
>What's so great about diversity that it has to supersede merit?
Nothing. What's so great about homogeny that it being threatened equates to a loss in quality in your mind?

>>84116456
>>84116477
Okay, show me an example where diversity was taken into consideration and wasn't a primary factor that overtook merit.

>Jenette Kahn: There were very few women in the field when I joined. And, of course, anxiety and horror washed through the DC halls when it was known that I'd been hired. After all, I was in my twenties, from outside the industry and (shudder) a girl. The perception - and I'm sure it was equal part wish -was that I'd be gone in a year.

>But, of course, I stayed. The learning curve was hard not just because there was so much to understand about the comic book industry but also because DC was part of a large corporation with its own culture and politics and protocol. And, although I think we're relatively free of politics now, DC was rife with them when I came and they were made all the worse by my presence. Lines were drawn and people took sides.

>All that, happily, is ancient history. Even in my first five years at DC, the most difficult of times, I found wonderful people to work with: Joe Orlando, Dick Giordano and Paul Levitz, then a 19-year old part-time assistant editor and for years now my most valued colleague. There were people like Karen Berger whom we hired during that time for whom I have not only the greatest respect but deep, abiding affection. People like Andy Helfer, always on the hip tip and a topnotch editor who cheerfully refuses to be domesticated. And, of course, as time went by we added more and more wonderful people until at least half the staff was female and we had a mix of ethnic backgrounds, too.

>>84116456
>Diversity doesn't preclude merit.

But it usually ends up that way

>>84116496
Nigga in the op dumbass

>>84116393
quoted the wrong person it was meant for him
>>84116359


I agree in some sense that anyone can write about a character from any race but I won't lie knowing that Captain America: Sam Wilson book that had a heavy focus on racism and black culture was weird knowing it was written by Nick Spencer.
(should be important i only read like the first and latest issue and a few articles about it)

>>84116496
Maybe if you shut up and read the thread instead of being an attention whore you'll find some.

>>84116496

How the hell would I know? I don't have backroom access to production meetings.

All I'm saying is someone can be hired for diversity and also have talent. The idea that someone has to be hired for pure merit is silly because that means different things to different people.

There's no objective "Talent Meter" we can all check to see if someone objectively deserves a job.

>>84116552
>muh buzzword of 'diversity' makes everything better! anyone who says otherwise is just crazy!

k

>>84116553
>There's no objective "Talent Meter" we can all check to see if someone objectively deserves a job.

That's the entire purpose of the hiring process. Having diversity for the sake of diversity is not a good thing and is flat out demeaning.

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>>84116496
this dude did this
>>84116335

does that count?

>>84116553
>There's no objective "Talent Meter" we can all check to see if someone objectively deserves a job.
For comics there is, it's "Can this person send in their work on time, work well with others, and sell enough books to not get cancelled."

>>84116589
>That's the entire purpose of the hiring process.
Since when, retard?
If you weren't a NEET ass nigga you'd know jobs have interviews instead of just randomly selecting CVs and telling them they're hired, because qualifications are more than just what you can do.

Hudlin's dumb ass on a book doesn't mean that they passed on Neil Gaiman any more than Greg Land on a book means they passed on James Stokoe.

>>84116621
>thrashers

If this was made now it wouldn't be about skateboards to keep things current, instead it'd be black guys playing the knockout game and be shown as heroes for it.

>>84116655
>Since when, retard?

>The entire interview process is not about determining ones skills, showing their previous work and determining if they are the most qualified for the job

I don't even know where the fuck to go with this conversation anymore.

>>84116589
>Having diversity for the sake of diversity is not a good thing and is flat out demeaning.

well i would agree that diversity alone isn't a merit to go with i would say including talent and diversity isn't a bad thing. why shouldn't one include an asian artist or a black writer into the company. especially when job criteria isn't as objective as you are trying to paint it up as.

>>84116675
>The entire interview process is not about determining ones skills, showing their previous work and determining if they are the most qualified for the job

Are you actually retarded or have you just got out of school for summer?

>>84116675
>CVs don't list skills, previous work, and qualifications
It's the most objective way anon!
If they don't look at the person they're hiring we can be sure they're not just being hired because they're a nigger or have tits!

None of that pesky memeversity!

wtf are you guys even talking about since when did marvel hire writers and artist through interviews everyone know it's through pitches and art blogs.

For all that everyone's praising Marvel, DC actually has the more diverse roaster of artists/writers.

>>84116726
Are you legitimately arguing that skills, qualifications, education and previous work (and if you're going for an actual job you'll be asked to demonstrate that work as well) are not a part of the hiring process?

>>84116729
>things that were never said

Nice strawman.

>>84116810
rebirth stream showed us who's working on their new stuff of 26 guest they had 4 of them where woman (all white) 1 black guy and 2 asian guys.

still seems more diverse than what marvel have if earlier post is true.

>>84116820
>Are you legitimately arguing that skills, qualifications, education and previous work (and if you're going for an actual job you'll be asked to demonstrate that work as well) are not a part of the hiring process?


not the same anon but for comics all that's actually matter is earlier work and how fast you are. how do you think we got squirrel girl.

I don't give a shit about diversity honestly. I just want good, interesting stories with good ideas and good characters. If it happens to include or star diverse characters, then that's fine. Great stories are what really matter.

I'm Indian and I wanna become a comic book writer someday but that's not really important here

>>84116426
Nothing, but literally anything would be better than the shit liberal white numale clusterfuck that's running the show now.

A vote for diversity is a vote against Bendis. Remember that.

>>84116820
>things that were never said
You responded to a post that said that interviews were superfluous to a hiring process based on 'objectivity' because of the existence of CVs by saying that interviews did exactly what a CV does.
So either you're a retard (my top guess) or you don't know what's in a resumè, either way the response was appropriate, summerfag.

Go get your GED homeboy, we all believe in you.

>paranoia about 'diversity hires'

This industry is really subjective. You could be the most talented writer ever and get shit sales or vice versa. Worrying about whether someone was hired to fill some unenforced quota is the least of the industry's problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16sKK-1oLQ

>>84116916
Civil War 2 may be bombing but Bendis is still one of the top-selling writers, he's not getting pushed out in favor of a diversity-hire who can't even come close to matching him in sales much less exceeding (except Coates who's only temporary and possibly a passing phase)

>>84116841
Okay, here's DC's Rebirth, writers and artists:
Javi Fernandez
Marcus To
Jonboy Meyers
Francis Manapul
Jorge Jimenez
Dexter Soy
Bernard Chang
Jim Lee
Christopher Priest
Carlo Pagulayan
Felipe Watanabe
John Semper, Jr.

Hope Larson
Julie Benson
Tula Lotay
Amanda Conner

James Tynion IV
Steve Orlando

Also, DC will have the first black female writer in the Big Two debut with a Suicide Squad one-shot in August, I think.

>>84116879
why do people always bring this up when we talk about diversity in a non objective industry that is comic book industry? no shit bashing on you anon but why do people bring this up like good comics will get challenged if we have diversity. It's not like marvel or dc was good when it's only white dudes.

I have never seen a year when all comics from a company have been consistently good and everyone behind it was white, and I have never seen it happen when it's super diverse.

Diversity shouldn't actually give a different in quality only maybe a different in what content we will see.

btw
I hope you reach your goals anon. I want to become a comic book artist myself

>>84116949
Not Bendis-the-guy, Bendis the idea.

That whole race of Joss Whedon-lites who can only write 22 year olds with the dialogue of what teenagers talked like in 2002, and believe that because they can write a badly written generic "muh angst" female character they've proven their worth to SJWs.

Fucking anything would be better than that, even if every fucking comic book line was "WE WUZ KANGZ".

>>84116879
And yet Marvel fails both diversity and quality. Huh.

>>84116928
>that said that interviews were superfluous to a hiring process based on 'objectivity' because of the existence of CVs

Okay, lets look at the first mention of CVs and interviews.

>>84116655
>you'd know jobs have interviews instead of just randomly selecting CVs and telling them they're hired

>this post specifically says that interviews have a purpose and that nobody just picks up 'random CVs and telling them they're hired'
>You're now trying to say that the entire points of interviews is superfluous

I think we can move on now, there's nowhere for this conversation to go.

>>84116963
>>Also, DC will have the first black female writer in the Big Two debut with a Suicide Squad one-shot in August, I think.
Most Wanted: Boomerang & El Diablo?

>>84117020
Yeah, the issues featuring Amanda Waller are written by Vita Ayala.

>>84116963
>Also, DC will have the first black female writer in the Big Two debut with a Suicide Squad one-shot in August, I think.

I want to say this is bullshit, but I have no proof. It just sounds weird.

>>84117013
Are you seriously retarded? The argument was against objectivity, interviews are not objective. If hiring WERE objective then interviews would be superfluous.

And we should have stopped this conversation a long ass time ago but I didn't realize I was going to have to spend an hour explaining how jobs work.

>>84117061
>SUICIDE SQUAD MOST WANTED: EL DIABLO AND BOOMERANG #1 begins a new monthly six-issue mini-series on August 10th featuring a lead story starring El Diablo written by Jai Nitz and a series of shorter second features by writers graduating from the just-completed inaugural class of DC’s Writers Workshop. Issues 1-2 will feature Boomerang (SUICIDE SQUAD MOST WANTED: EL DIABLO AND BOOMERANG) by Michael Moreci, issues 3-4 will feature Killer Croc (SUICIDE SQUAD MOST WANTED: EL DIABLO AND KILLER CROC) by Chris Sebela and issues 5-6 will feature Amanda Waller (SUICIDE SQUAD MOST WANTED: EL DIABLO AND AMANDA WALLER) by Vita Ayala.
This is Vita Ayala:
https://www.dccomicstalentworkshop.com/alumnus/vita-ayala/

People keep saying that Marvel talks about diversity but doesn't hire diverse creators, but every time it's about writers. Marvel has a lot of artists that are not white men or whatever.

I know it's hip to shit on Marvel and praise DC when it comes to this, but at least try to be objective. Both companies employ diverse creators, it's just that most of them are artists and not writers.

>>84117073
Yea, that's not the part I have a problem with, just the fact that she's the first black female writing. I feel we've had one before, but I just can't remember.

>>84116963
>Also, DC will have the first black female writer in the Big Two debut with a Suicide Squad one-shot in August, I think.

holy fuck that can't be true.

>>84117067
>interviews are not objective
>The entire purpose of the interview process is to ascertain someones skills, qualifications and how well they'd fit into a company.

>You see, I meant something else entirely to what I actually said!

How are you even able to breathe on your own?

>>84117107

>>84117073

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>>84117083
well I am pointing them out where I see them and again Olivier Coipel one of the greatest in comic books right now works almost exclusively for marvel is a black french man.

oh and also Ron Wimberly while a excellent artist works best on his own books

>>84117086
I don't think there's been one before in the Big 2, but then again, I just parroted what I read in an article, the author might have been mistaking for all I know. But I honestly can't think of anyone.

>>84116420
>tfw no "fix my comic" show with thse guys as hosts
That also reminds me that we will never have a strip search season 2

>>84116963
>>84117073
All in all, DC currently has 8 women on their pay roll:
https://twitter.com/charmingred/status/732366011924549632

>>84117123

Two different people said both of those things, son.
Protip: Not everyone named Anonymous is he same person.

Most of the big companies are trying to to appeal to the whole diversity thing because it's the hip thing and they're profit oriented. If it were more than just lip service they'd do stuff beyond just parrot social justice 101, insert the occassional minority, and actually hire people beyond whatever they usually do.

Honestly, I think it's dumb that social justice types look towards big companies for progressiveness instead of supporting small time creators that fit whatever minority they think is underrepresented or whatever. Big companies are just gonna play it safe.

For the record, I don't think diversity automatically equals good and there's a lot of pandering bullshit that focuses mostly on how much of a minority the characters are instead of anything actually interesting about them, but I think the existence of diversity that isn't just lip service is the sign of a thriving creative environment and comics could use some of that.

>>84117282
well the people you are consider to be 'sjw' are supporting the people they care about.
just look how many woman they are in the industry.

when it comes to race it's another thing.
It's not like they actually care.

>>84116122
I am racist, but I love Larry Stroman's works as well as "Chris Priest".

>>84117260
9, if you count Vertigo: Gail Simone.
Don't know if cover artists should count, but if they do, then Jenny Frison as well.

>>84116963
>first black female writer in the Big Two
>2016

What the fuck

>>84117368
I want to ask how one can be racist and still enjoy larry stroman and chris priest but i don't want to open that can of worms

>>84117503
I'm glad you asked. I am racist, because I believe that there is difference between the races, and also, because I prefer works of white people. Also, because I feel that Stroman and Priest feel more like an exception, rather than standard.

>>84117547
oh, and I have a huge distaste for the work of asian people, which is ironic, I know

>>84117559
Mind elaborating on what you like about white artists and why you don't like asain work?

>diversity

You mean black men and white women because lets be honest when people say diversity they just mean these 2 groups.

>>84117624
What the fuck ever happened to white women that they need to be put everywhere?

>>84117547
>>84117559

em..mm

I could be wrong but have you seen enough black artist work to say they are the expectation by fact and not just a bias feeling.
can't really say anything about the other points.

>>84117616
by saying asian work, I dislike the manga-esque style strongly, as well as the fetishes / fantasies they put in their comics. also, there is culture barrier, meaning that what is funny for japanese people (for example), is cringe for me (like poop jokes in "what's michael" for example)

white artists have this classic stylized art, and actually more diverse, rich with different approaches, and storytelling rooted in traditions and culture that is more familiar to mine. so obviously, I see them as superior

>>84116963
>>84117486
Yeah, okay, I did some research and there has been a black female writer before, though once again she worked for DC.
Felicia D. Henderson, though it's okay if you don't remember her, since she was pretty awful.

>>84117656
that's the thing, that there aren't many notable black artists, and frankly, I'm not really interested in them. and even Stroman's and Priest's have this distinct feel, especially Stroman's art that reminds me a little of tribal drawings? it falls under the "something exotic from time to time" category for me.

but then again, I said that I was racist.

>>84117624
you can't really complain when there was only white guys before.

artist seems to avoid diversity problem because good art seem easy to find everywhere. but somehow we still get shit like iron man and squirrel girl

I hate how diversity only means black.

>>84116394
Bendis is trying really hard to be black.

>>84116496
Hudlin.

>>84117688
>that reminds me a little of tribal drawings?

oh boy

>but then again, I said that I was racist.

yeah you sure did.

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>>84117791
:^)

>>84117486
a) Black women are a minority
b) Most black women aren't into superhero comics

>>84116963
If we're talking about DC's LGBT writers/editors, there's also Phil Jimenez, Chris Conroy and Marguerite Bennett. Don't know if they've given Marc Andreyko anything in Rebirth yet.

>>84117944
which is a mistake, because it's the easier way to raise your profile and interest

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>>84116122
>have the companies that have proudly declared themselves having diversity actually have a diverse group of employees working for them?
Nah.

>>84117976
Taking on work you have no interest in because it'll raise your name value just results in hackwork, see Joe Casey's Uncanny X-Men which he admitted was such.

>>84116393
What comic companies don't seem to understand is that if you make it so that only black writers can work on black characters, it makes black characters almost like a ghetto. If I was a black writer and I was told that I had to write Black Panther or Cyborg because we share the same skin color I would be fucking pissed.

>>84117996
but at least people know who Casey is

>>84117997
Honestly it's only Marvel that does that.

>>84117986
jews?

>>84117997
well, that's exactly what Priest felt

>>84117997
That's how DC snatched Priest for Rebirth. They allowed him to choose a character he wanted to write after he said he didn't want to be remembered as the black guy who only wrote black characters.

I don't want any damn shoehorned in diversity in the cast. Fucking loathe pandering.

Wouldn't mind stories set in rarely explored times and places though.

I'm sorry but I'm not sure if your arguing against or for my point.

>Diversity shouldn't actually give a different in quality only maybe a different in what content we will see.

that's a good point. I have nothing against diversity, either behind or on the page.

Diversity could be wonderful, bringing in new voices and stories and experiences and that's excellent for any storytelling medium. But I strongly disagree when it comes at the cost of story quality.

hey thanks a lot anon. I wish you the best of luck bro. would you mind providing some info about your artwork? I'm always working on some comic or the other and I'm always on the lookout for artists

shit
this >>84118070
was meant for
>>84116966

>>84116420
i keep getting surprised by how tiny Jim Lee is.

>>84118014
not really have you guys seen captain america sam Willson?

it's like black power fantasy created by a white guy.

>>84118070
Diversity is only as good as the story / art is good.

>>84118021
Though they totally did offer him Cyborg at first, mind you.

>>84118140
of course, I wasn't refuting that

>>84117721
I'd rather have my presence overlooked by the larger political entities here than constantly being the blame/poster child for it. It's weird seeing both sides say "where's group x?" when group x is right there in the middle of thing their criticizing.

>>84116335
That art is gorgeous. I wish more comics went for rich, rather than garish colours.

>>84118162
What I mean, is that for diversity to works, diversity should not be supposed to be a means to an end, and goal in itself, but rather something that is a bonus

I know, I am smug

>>84118193
cont. Comes to think about it, the best diversity is when you don't notice diversity, when you don't realize it, because you are completely concentrated on the work of art.

>>84117986
i'm actually curious if any of them got fired because of this tweet.

>sorry lucy but we need more colored people whoops I meant people of colored, have to work on that political correctness, ugh rough times.

>>84117073
I'd fuck

>>84118129
Right, but Marvel approached Coates to write a book, he told them he wanted Spider-Man, and they offered him Black Panther instead. They have David Walker writing Luke Cage and Nighthawk, and soon they'll have Geoffrey Thorne writing Mosaic. They're just fine with black people writing other black people, but are unwilling/unable to give them white person solos.

>>84118236
now this is pretty racist, even more than I am

>>84116407
Posts like these hurt so much because they remind me of times when Aaron was associated with testosterone-filled comics like PunisherMAX, Scalped, Thor and Southern Bastards.

>>84118236

>but are unwilling/unable to give them white person solos

Spider-Man has the issue of Jabba The Hutt writing it and refusing to leave until he dies.

>>84118146
Yep. And they did end up giving Cyborg to John Semper, Jr. Not that I'm complaining, of course. DC's really bringing the big guns back for Rebirth.

>>84116335
>Sara Pichelli
>diverse
No.

>>84118310
As in Spider-Man TAS John Semper?
I don't care for Cyborg, but you got my attention, anon.

>>84118146
To be fair, Priest would've at least made Cyborg interesting for once. If you want a black writer to push your boring black character, Priest is your best bet. Though, I'm glad he's not writing Cyborg.

>>84118338
Yep, the same.
https://twitter.com/johnsemper/status/718905151403089920

>>84118282
>Marvel are only publishing one Spider-Man book
>they won't publish any more, not even a mini
Anon please

>>84118282
They could have let Coates write a stealth mini Different Adjective Spider-Man or those .# issues they were doing not too long ago. Wasn't even on the table.
>The Coates/Marvel collaboration stems from a 2015 conference hosted by The Atlantic, where the author interviewed the Marvel editor Sana Amanat in a seminar titled “What if Captain America Were Muslim and Female?” Soon after, another Marvel editor, Tom Brevoort, asked Mr. Coates if there were any characters that he might like to write for them. A lifelong fan of Spider-Man and the X-Men, Mr. Coates sent them some favorites. “Black Panther was not on my list,” he said with a laugh.

>>84118364
I'm just happy he's writing something. And shit, he got to choose the property!

Like, I'm surprised I'm genuinely more excited for a Deathstroke book than most any of the other Rebirth titles, save Blue Beetle.

>>84118392
>I'm genuinely more excited for a Deathstroke book than most any of the other Rebirth titles, save Blue Beetle.
Anon, are you me?

>>84118338
Here's an interview with him.
http://www.newsarama.com/28779-cyborg-gets-philosophical-in-rebirth.html
I've never been interested in Cyborg, but it actually sounds like it's worth checking out.

>>84118381
>>84118389

Alright that's fair enough, they could have thrown him a bone.

>lifelong fan of X-Men

GIVE X-MEN TO COATES

MAYBE HE CAN FIX IT FUCKING HELL SOMEONE HAS TO

>>84116393
There's something to be said for people of said skin colour having a unique perspective that helps them write these characters.

Pontificating about racism by people who haven't personally experienced it can seem, well, offensive. Of course, we're dealing with larger than life characters, here, so that lessens the blow.

But, let's take Star Trek as an example. When Voyager added an American Indian character, they never bothered to ask any Indians, and ended up with an offensive stereotype. If they HAD asked an Indian, he could have quickly told them that the character was wrong.

>>84118408
An anon on /co/ that only really cares about the creative team on their cape books?

We're either the same person or different-earth counterparts, either way, good on you, me.

That Moritat Hellblazer is also looking pretty damn inviting

>>84118425
Coates loves X-Men, and he basically said in an early interview that he is confused at what Marvel is doing currently with the X-Men, albeit I don't remember exactly what he said

>>84118070
I don't know how to explain but i feel like diversity could never harm the quality of a comic. If a comic somehow sucks because a asian writer works on it it's often enough someone in the company did a bad job not because the company wanted diversity.

and if for example a white dude have a great potential and a black dude dosn't it's not like they are going to hire the black dude because of diversity they will probably just hire the white dude and look harder after a good black writer. (or at least that's my ideal version for a company that wants diversity in their company)

hope that made sense. at least i'm not as bad at art as I am on the english language.

http://goddamn-oni.deviantart.com/ haven't uploaded anything new since I been working on my lineart

>>84118187
well in the cost of good art it takes time and sadly the only issue he did on that run : < rest of civil war 2 isn't even half as good. (reminder though that olivier isn't the artist that colored that page.

>>84118425
Marvel would have to want the X-Men fixed. They want it crashed against the rocks of the eternal shore and broken.

>>84116879
POO

>>84118236
oh I wasn't praising captain America thing I was just stating it so people know. yeah it's sucks it's rough, fuck life.

>>84117713
Yes, you can. See, it's the people clamouring for diversity that lump "white guys" into one group. But during the supposed reign of "white guys" in the US, you were shit out of luck if you were Jewish, or of Italian or Irish heritage. In Europe, that sort of shit was the rule, too. If you were from the wrong country, or the wrong ethnic group, you were shit out of luck. The Jews got it the worst.

But now we're leaving racism behind, and you get these people who lump all white guys into a single group, and proceed to be racist against said group. A few months ago Aaron Diaz got chewed out for repeating this bullshit on Twitter.

Diversity means diversity. Racial, gender, and cultural. If you get a group of WASP Americans, and you have one position to diversify, both selecting an African-American and a non-Anglo European would mean introducing diversity to that group.

I'm from a small country. We constantly get passed over, and when we do get representation, half the time it's either as comic relief, or as sex-obsessed drug dealers. But because the guys who make fun of us have the same fucking skin colour, suddenly I'm represented? Nope, that's not how it works.

Simply put, it's this racist component to the diversity movement that makes it hard to take their arguments seriously. And, well, you can't expect people to go along with something that openly marginalizes them.

>>84117083
What gets me is that all the Black writers working for Marvel are all on books starring Black people. And I haven't checked, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case for the women there also.

>>84118651
Nah, I know off-hand Cloonan's writing a very mediocre Frank.

>>84118331
>Sara Pichelli
woman
also draw the most beautiful people.

>>84118672

I'm amazed they gave Frank to a female writer. If anyone is going to get triggered hardest by girls in their comic books it's going to be the Frankophiles.

>>84118610
everyone see it everyone know it but no one does anything.

it's like parents physically harming their kids and people around claims the marks are from not being careful when playing


I was going to draw a comic of marvel personified as a parent beating their kids cosplaying as the x-men but i want to work for marvel one day.

>>84118648
you mean, if you WEREN'T JEWISH or ITALIAN.
keep in mind that these two groups formed a very powerful gangster structures, albeit the Jewish one was legal

>>84118738
>but i want to work for marvel one day.
Jesus man, talk about whipping boys.

>>84118523
>That Moritat Hellblazer is also looking pretty damn inviting
It really does. I hope it's decent. I enjoyed Oliver's FBP, but it was nothing amazing and I dropped it shortly after Rodriguez left. And the editor on it is cute, CUTE!

>>84118735
Casual fans maybe, but Frankophiles know full-well that Jo Duffy played a crucial part in the Punisher revitalization of the 80s.

>>84118648
>The Jews got it the worst.
Oh fucking kill yourself, it's completely bullshit.
Otherwise you wouldn't have everything owned by kikes

>>84118648
you know what you're right. Heard the same argument from my friend before and I agree it sucks. Sorry anon

>>84118780

>Casual fans

99.99999999999% of modern day Frank fans think the world begins and ends with Ennis.

>>84118771
good on my paper when I make a kickstart and become the biggest fucker in the industry

no no that's was a lie I actually just want to draw x-men but they seem to die so idk vertigo maybe image comic?

>>84118859
please stop, it's too much

>>84118922

You know it's true senpai.

Try and start any Frank thread on /co/, it's literally 300 posts of Ennis getting blown with an extra dash of Rucka love.

>>84118952
I know, I just... How is that even possible? When it did happen? I mean, only few years ago people at least recognized Dixon... When it went wrong?

>>84118880
>no no that's was a lie I actually just want to draw x-men but they seem to die so idk vertigo maybe image comic?

You should apply to that DC Talent scouting school thing they're doing. Totally seriously, check it out.

https://www.dccomicstalentworkshop.com/

>>84118952
>Rucka love
That's what bugs me.
Aaron's Punisher ran at the same time and /co/ never gives it any real love.
Rucka's run reads like some sappy chick crime fiction with static art, yet everyone loves it

>>84118859
What if I'm not a Frankfan, but an Ennis fan who happens to like his Frank?

>>84119023
It attracts a lot of /co/'s homolust due to the really, really pretty Big Boss Frank.

>>84119005
>https://www.dccomicstalentworkshop.com/

Holy shit this exist! Thanks anon.

>>84119023

People like it because the Lady Punisher character was well-done and it basically turned Frank into a dad-eyed husk of a human being who was treated more like a force of nature then an actual character.

>>84119005

Ennis fanboys, senpai. You know the drill.

>>84119025

I'm not saying you can't enjoy it man, just saying that it's the only real frame of reference for the modern Punisher fanboys.

>>84119005
jesus, and to think that marvel does the exact opposite

>>84119072
They might not be running new applications right now, but I sincerely doubt this'll be a one-time only thing. Keep flicking back to it every so often, they may open up for new submissions.

Fuck SJWs. They're the ones who are killing the comic book industry and the cartoon industry.
Fortunately, they're not gonna mess with my Chinese cartoons anytime soon.

>>84116410
>>84116394
Bendis with his goddamn gremlin smirk

>>84119092
internet died just as i clicked on the site. didn't realize this was in-house. I live in Europa...
there is other options for me but maaaaan what a bummer.

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>>84119077
>Lady Punisher character was well-done
She was a forgettable Rucka's tuff female character #3473547.

>>84119113
I was going to reply but then I saw
>Chinese cartoons

you almost got me anon. almost.

>>84116456
Merit is explicitly and definitionally excluded by diversity.

>>84116553

How come _______________s need _______________ in order to get jobs writing comic books, but not in the _______________ industry or _________________ _________________?

>>84120140
what a vague question

>>84116122
If diversity in creators will bring a new age of comics that won't be so cancer-riddled with poorly thought and even more poorly executed, anvilicious agendas, then by the love of god, kick these white bitches out.

>>84120261
feel like we wouldn't have what 4chan is constantly claims to be a agenda with people of different races in the mix.

>>84120140
>How come transgender strippers need plastic phalluses in order to get jobs writing comic books, but not in the horse milking industry or as private eyes?

I gotta say, you question kinda confused me, anon.

>>84119920
what about guys like
>>84116613
or
>>84116963

>>84120140
>How come Timmy lee's cousins need prosthetic limbs in order to get jobs writing comic books, but not in the jeans industry or in showbiz?


shitty world we live in anon.

>>84120140
>How come farts need boogers in order to get jobs writing comic books, but not in the pooping industry or horse sex?

real mature, anon