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Why didn't they just use the actual characters?

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Why didn't they just use the actual characters?
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>>84087748
DC wouldn't give them permission to make the JSA look like a bunch of Adam West-type cornballs.
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>>84087816
Not to mention that they might have wanted to use the Real JSA characters, right?
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>>84087748
>portraying Jay Garrick as racist
>having Dinah Lance suggest the girls make cookies while the men talk
Yeah, that'd go over real well. I mean, I could perhaps buy Jay as grandpa racist, but Mama Canary displaying that kind of attitude is so out of character, it physically hurts to even think about.
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>>84087748
They were going to but Levitz declined it and pointed out they were in the process of making JSA sellable again and they don't want Jay depicted as kind of racist and Black Canary as subservient.
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>>84088005
Not-jay was never racist, just politically incorrect. Not even on putpose.
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>>84087748
>literally Yahoo answers teir question
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>>84087748
This must be what superheroes look like to Garth Ennis.
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>>84087826
Basically here it is right from Bruce Timm himself.

>However, DC Comics publisher Paul Levitz had some concerns with the story. He felt the story as written disrespected the JSA and was overall an inappropriate use of the characters. We pleaded our case, but we could clearly see his point, too: the DC guys have spent a lot of time and effort in revitalizing the JSA recently (to the point here it's now one of their most popular titles) we certainly didn’t want it to seem as if we were saying the JSA was a joke. No disrespect was intended on our end—quite the opposite! We wanted the story to be a love letter to the original JSA and a bittersweet nod to simpler times. [However], Paul saw our point and quickly agreed to a compromise: we’d change the names and designs just enough to make them not quite the JSA, but still get the point across. They’re now the superheroes of ‘Earth Two-and-a-half’, if you will…kinda similar to what Alan Moore was doing in his Supreme run.

>It did give us a few hairy moments, as all this stuff was happening at literally the eleventh hour. [We] were actually on the phone with the legal department, awaiting clearances on our new JGA characters’ names, at the voice-recording session. We started recording not knowing what some of the character’s names were going to be!

And he's right about it being last minute since there's a "next episode" teaser spot that still uses the JSA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6wlCj-PqSk
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>>84088185
>Stan Berkowitz and Dwayne McDuffie wrote a comedy-heavy episode called "Misfortune Cookies" based heavily on the Justice League International comics. The story centered on Martian Manhunter's addiction to Oreos...er, Chocos almost ruining a peace negotiation between two warring alien races, which forces Elongated Man to play the mediator instead. The executives vetoed the idea, but in early 2015, J.M. Dematteis posted a summary version of the concept on his website, saying it could have been JLU's equivalent to "The Trouble with Tribbles".

http://www.jmdematteis.com/2015/01/jlu-lost-episode.html?m=1

I would have gladly traded an episode like Hawk and Dove, The Balance or either of the Hawkman episodes for that.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/justice-league-unlimited-37-hard-spirits/4000-118469/

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/justice-league-unlimited-38-when-bad-girls-go-good/4000-117726/

Both of those were written by one of the writers of the show too and based on unused episode ideas.
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>>84088049
What episode is that?
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>>84088042
>Not even on purpose.
That's usually irrelevant. It's always stuff that someone is blind to and never thinks about, far more than it's people going out of their way to be shitty.
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>>84088042
These things aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>84088812
>>84087748
Legends
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>>84088896
But they're not the same thing either.
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>>84088770
>the Blue Beetle episodes that never were because of rights issues
RIP
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>>84088963
Need to read these JLU comics one day
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>>84088770
Hawk and Dave was necessary to set up the Annihilator armor, which Cadmus eventually stole. That was their one real win against the League, it made them a credible threat
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>>84089126
Hawk and Dove was also a completely shitty episode however.
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>>84088083
>literally /co tier question

There, fixed
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>>84087816
>DC wouldn't give them permission to make the JSA look like a bunch of Adam West-type cornballs.

But they ARE a bunch of Adam West type cornballs.
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