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Can we talk about political comics?

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Can we talk about political comics?
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>>84051658
After you've scrubbed all the floors in Hyrule, then we can talk about political comics. Take him away!
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no, fuck off
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So, Britain out of the EU, their currency is dropping, and they're panicking.

What if the US picks up and makes Britain the next state?
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>>84051681
>>84051666
>>84051711
Funny how we've had identity politics comics threads but apparently this is too much for you faggots.
Or maybe you just feel like it's an attack on your personal beliefs?
Ooooh
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>>84051720
All according to plan...
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>>84051727

Or maybe we just don't feel like discussing your bullshit right now

Ooooh
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>>84051720
The hiccup that came from the brexit vote is literally that, a minor hiccup.
People are just whining about an expected thing (short term financial bumps are kinda normal for something like this EXCEPT when the market is pressuring for the change), the people losing their minds are the european left trying to grab onto anything they can to showcase why this is a "bad decision".
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>>84051727
The only quality political comics threads on /co/ are those with Kelly or vintage ones.
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>>84051727
Every time we try and have one it usually turns into a damn free-for-all shitposting arena from all sides and no-one actually posts political comics or cartoons. The only time we actually have any fun with political cartoon threads is when someone shows some really old-timey stuff late at night.
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>>84051727
Maybe people just don't give a fuck?
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>>84051765
Or maybe you're just a whiny cunt that feels the need to shit up a thread that he has no interest on instead of ignoring it?

Oh right, you're the actual bullshitting funpoater. Oooooh
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>>84051727

Maybe your political cartoon just sucks?
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>>84051784
>>84051801
>>84051805
So why are you posting here instead of ignoring it?
"I must bump off the board this one thread I dislike".
Just stop.
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>>84051817
Maybe you should look at the poster count?
>B-but the OP didn't post the image I wanted so it means we don't need or want this thread

No you don't need or want the thread. If you dislike it don't post in it, is this too hard for millenials to get?
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>>84051666
First post, best post
Now post political cartoons and don't talk about them.
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HURRR I HATE POL GUYS LETS HAVE THREADS JUST LIKE THEIRS
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>>84051806
whats a funpoater
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>>84051865
Still pretty relevant today.
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>>84051658
Fuck it, this is now a Teddy/vintage thread.
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This thread is now property of the Royal Family and its king, King Harkinian.
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>>84051849
OP did post a pretty shitty cartoon tho
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>>84051913
You're right, those Arabs in London have been awfully discriminated against.
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>>84051883
Latuff is part of the selectively blind segment of the population that ignores every single thing that the people 'on his side' do wrong.

So basically about 99% of political cartoonists.
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Wo-ha ha ha ha, all boys must scrub Ganon's dinner
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>>84051658
Does marvel count?
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>>84051951
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>>84051780
They got more to show than the right who want to justify it as a "good decision".
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>>84051883
Latuff is the cuckest brazilian cartoonist
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>>84051895
This, pretty much. Any more on the topic of the descent into authoritarianism?
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>>84051966
"Good" idea, poor execution.

Should have had Trump dressed up in only 19th century adventurer gear standing over the GOP Elephant's body while henchmen saw off its tusks
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>>84051997
Pretty accurate.
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This Is Historic Times is pretty good, since Nowicki is a huge nerd.
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>>84051987
Like what? Putting the interests of the union over those of your citizens?
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>>84051966
How can you kill that which is already dead?
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>>84052035
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>>84052078
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>>84052091
Kek and accurate
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>>84052043
I don't think those citizens even knew the fuck they were voting for tho.
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>>84052122
The Cologne thing is surreal to me.

Not because I don't believe immigrants can rape but that apparently thousands of cases happened overnight all at once.

It just seems like something that'd be difficult to coordinate accidentally or otherwise.
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Horsey might be the Liberal Asay, but damn does he draw a fuckable chick.
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>>84052176
Neat.
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>>84052092
My how times have changed.
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>>84052188
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>>84052156
Pretty accurate actually.
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>>84052195

It probably wasn't coordinated at all. All the ingredients for something like that happening were already there, it just took one moment of opportunity for it to all fall into place and boil over.

The most disturbing part was the reaction. I've never seen so many people who normally listen and believe women when they say they've been molested suddenly insisting it was all lies.
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>>84052195
were they all rapes or is "sexual assault" the kind of term that includes aggressive cornering or that kind of thing
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>>84052261

Most of it was groping, I think.
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>>84052260
>It probably wasn't coordinated at all. All the ingredients for something like that happening were already there, it just took one moment of opportunity for it to all fall into place and boil over.
That still doesn't make sense to me. What's so special about that one particular night that made women extra molestable for one particular ethnic group without any coordination from that group? And thousands of them at that?
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>>84051658
Who is this meant to be lampooning?
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>>84052260
>>84052195
The fact that there was an actual attempt at a cover-up is the part that blows my mind. It's not really something you can sweep under the rug.
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I've always liked this one
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>>84052260
Who fell again? Oh that's right the soviets.
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>>84052277
oh
well i'm less shocked than i would have been if it were all rape
but it's still bad of course
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>>84051986
R-rule 34?
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>>84052291

>What's so special about that one particular night that made women extra molestable

Sheer concentration in one place. It was a New Year's celebration, remember? Lots of women in one place + large group of foreigners from a culture where women are 2nd class citizens = bad times for women.
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>>84051990
I don't understand
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>>84052195
A couple of rapes happened, there were mass sexual assaults, though. Still get a kick out of the Left's response. really showcased that brown people meant more than women in the progressive stack.
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>>84052291
Maybe sexual assault is just a new year's thing for them. We got kissing at midnight, they got molestation and rape at midnight.
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>>84052156
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>>84052300
John Oliver.
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>>84052291
Wasn't it New Years? Crowded areas. Drunk Women. Drunk Muslims. High Energy.
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>>84052347
>really showcased that brown people meant more than women in the progressive stack.
Well it's not the same situation isn't it.
You weren't going to deport an entire gender if some women did something wrong, you'd just punish the particular women. But people were willing to deport an entire immigration group because of what particular number of them did.

Defending women and immigrants aren't mutually exclusive causes.
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>>84052156
>>84052176
>>84052188

Stop making things seem cooler than they really are.
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>>84052300
John Oliver.
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>>84051990
I don't get it, is that supposed to say that all women are whores? And why does that comment got so many likes?
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>>84052395

The problem isn't just about "deporting" them, the problem is that the government is doing an absolutely hideous job of actually adjusting them to Western values. More often than not they seem to be telling women to dress more "appropriately" in countries like Germany and Sweden these days.
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>>84052395
>Defending women and immigrants aren't mutually exclusive causes

When the immigrants assault women, and you defend the immigrants, isn't that the literal definition of the phrase "mutually exclusive"?
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>>84052092
Did the only black person that artist ever see have a birth defect or something? That eye looks like it's set in the goddamn temple.
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>>84051882
Someone edit this to England and EU.
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>>84052092
Now republican is both and democratic party is neither
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>>84052448
>The problem isn't just about "deporting" them
But that's what the Left is concerned about and why they reacted in defense of immigrants, because there were people calling out for this extreme action.

> the problem is that the government is doing an absolutely hideous job of actually adjusting them to Western values. More often than not they seem to be telling women to dress more "appropriately" in countries like Germany and Sweden these days.
I agree but I also wouldn't use Sweden as an average case, they're a very extreme case of a country irresponsibly taking in more refugees than they have the funding for. A cautionary tale for sure but not necessarily the thing you should normally expect.
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>>84052475
from the thumbnail, I thought his head was supposed to be the shape of Germany
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>>84052469
They weren't defending immigrants but themselves. News like that hits and it just makes Germany look bad.
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>>84052395
Meh, the Left constantly makes a big deal out of men being disgusting monster, but when brown people are the one exhibiting that behavior there's radio silence. Of course not all men are monsters, nor are most immigrants, but how feminists and leftist apply their principals selectively on skin color is an obvious hypocrisy.

For example they'll harp on and down about the west having a rape-culture, yet they lust after everything non-western despite them having the same tendencies many times over.
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>>84052512

>But that's what the Left is concerned about and why they reacted in defense of immigrants

Well that's pretty retarded of them. They obviously have no sense of timing if their immediate reaction was to defend the immigrants. I get what they were worried about (innocents getting swept up along with the guilty), but it only made them look insensitive and drove people further away into the waiting arms of the Right.

In other words, they were only thinking in the short term (preventing traction for deportation of immigrants/refugees) and not in the long term (how native countrymen will view their response and how that might later affect them politically).
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>>84052512
In Germany they said the solution was for women to "stay an arms length away from men" I believe.
You know, after they acknowledged it actually happened.
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>>84052164
The famous "people who disagree with me don't know what they are talking about".
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>>84052469
No, because neither of those groups are hiveminds. There's always going to be criminals in any group and honestly I don't know how to end this post without sounding condescending, I rewrote it like three times fucking of course those aren't mutually exclusive interests, shit.
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>>84051780
>The hiccup that came from the brexit vote is literally that, a minor hiccup.

>I-i-it is working as intended, you guys!

UK =/= USA, it will not make the world realign itself around it regardless of decision. Brits are about to finally learn that their Empire no longer exists and they will learn it the hard way.
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>>84052303
Total Bro Biden is something I'll miss next year.

The fact his foot lives in his mouth make Biden an ideal Vice President.
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>>84052553
I remember watching a town hall meeting in germany about how women and kids are being harassed by immigrant gangs, ages ranged from grown men to kids, and the town leaders solution was to "avoid their areas". Of course the townspeople were pissed.
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>>84052475
I like how it's so dumb it's funny. If someone tried to make something like that today they should be laughed out of the room.
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>>84052542
>Meh, the Left constantly makes a big deal out of men being disgusting monster, but when brown people are the one exhibiting that behavior there's radio silence.
Well it's difficult to address the issue when there is a whole piranha tank of right wing people willing to run the whole nine yards in turning it into a racial problem.

Because let's not forget, almost immediately after that string of molestation there was already giant protests calling for mass deportation. It's not easy to have a dialogue about men acting inappropriately when half the country wants to turn it into a call to action against all brown people, they don't have as much control over the narrative as people think they do.
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>>84052553
>they said

One bitch said that and the public reaction was to mercilessly roast her over it.
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>>84052195
They want integration of those peoples to go without a hitch so the differences in our cultures that don't work together are given a blind eye and the immigrants are treated as though some of the problem behavior like rape and violence is not an actual issue
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>>84052554
There were apparently a couple people who didn't know, and probably more who just plain regret it thanks to the pound drop.
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>>84052634
I think you guys are missing the point.
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>>84052391
THICK
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>>84052608
Polandball comics are always so charming.
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>>84052554
But Britons really didn't know shit about what they were voting for.
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>>84052312
consider it much worse than some guy passing a girl and grabbing her ass

imagine being a girl and a crowd/gang of 7 men surround you pulling your outfit apart. this was the reports of cologne. it's much more terrifying.
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>>84052677

On both sides of the vote to be honest famiglia.
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>>84052685
sure but at least it wasn't rape
look it's like hearing your mom died and then finding out she's just really sick, it's awful that she's sick but you're still a little relieved she's not dead
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>>84052644
>mass attacks on their women (yes, their women) by foreigners
>calls to remove the foreigners

How evil!

Far better to let the epidemic of sexual emergencies continue than let the right stop them.
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>>84052188

I am amused that they gave Trump Fate's Gilgamesh's shit. It feels appropriate.
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>>84051951

This one is pretty sick.
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>>84052725
Goddamn redditball comics are so shit.
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>>84052719
you're retarded.
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>>84052720
I know it's a meme to do the whole hashtag #notall[group] thing to be dismissive but it doesn't stop it from being true, criminals within a group does not turn that whole group into equally guilty criminals, that's just inane.
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>>84052197
>That American girl
I'd reproduce with her.
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>>84052743

You're gonna need a bigger hook.
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>>84052744
sure but at least my mom's still alive + she wasn't raped
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>>84052725
Poland ball comis are so cute.
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>>84052303
>tfw Biden is kicking himself for not running this year
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>>84052781
We can work on that
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>>84052781
How do you think you were born?
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>>84052757

No, but it does mean that group is a risk factor and that the government should respond appropriately to ensure such an incident does not happen again. Desperately attempting to cover things up and then shift the focus onto not blaming the refugees when that fails does not mitigate anything, it only inflames existing tensions and makes those victimized feel abandoned by their own leaders.
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>>84052001
>This, pretty much.

Its the other way around these days; even though people only fear it in the way the comic presented, too much of either will fuck you. No security and too much liberty, other people will overrun you and the government loses its ability to self govern as laws aren't kept. Too much authority and the people rebel since there's no freedom.
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>>84051727
Maybe it just you that sucks
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>>84052792

I'm sure he knew he could win, he just doesn't want the job anymore. He's an old man with a lot of dead family that just wants to spend what time he has left with what family he still has.
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>>84052792
he tried to run but nobody cared so he stopped

>>84052809
cabbage patch duh
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>>84052792
More like the democratic party is kicking biden for not running this year.

I wouldn't be surprised if Creepy Uncle Joe wants out completely
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>>84052809
Well if she was white then I would assume she wasn't able to outrun her dad.
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>>84052300

I MEAN COME ON!
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>>84052813
>No, but it does mean that group is a risk factor and that the government should respond appropriately to ensure such an incident does not happen again.
Yes, I agree on the government having an appropriate response.

The issue is that my idea of appropriate and the idea of appropriate lauded by people who go on very loud protests to kick out the entire group are very different.

Dialogue is difficult when there is such strong disagreement over such a basic thing.
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>>84052707

Probably. Problem is that one of the side's assumptions were specifically built on their own representatives telling them a pack of bullshit that, and this is the troublesome thing, they apparently never actually fucking meant to do. I mean, it barely took until like 9AM on the very next day of the referendum for some of the biggest Leave public supporters to start going "well actually" on the matters of immigration and shit that they themselves had pushed. I mean come the fuck on, mates, at least try to make it LOOK less shameless.
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>>84052792
He's probably kicking himself more over his dead son.
>>84052844
Cheer up Britland, This year you get to celebrate your independence too.
>>84052859
They'd probably be happy if you stop letting them in.
Which I guess is kinda fucked too but still....
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>>84051658
That is one shitty rip off of shmorky's style and one utterly unfunny punchline, even by political cartoon standards
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>>84052859
The problem is that people who want final solution are the only people actually willing to give any at all. Moderate/Liberal side is in a state of paralysis. That's very unfortunate.
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>>84052644
There's is literally nothing wrong with deportation of foreigners. They're not german. This mindset is preciely why Europe is seeing a rise in right leaning parties gaining traction. A country should always prioritise their own over others.
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>leaving an economic union which you were a founding member of
>facing several decades of crippling economic backlash
>thinking this means you're telling someone to "fuck off"

Brits aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
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>implying this isn't the most 4chan relevant political comic
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>>84052910
I don't get it.
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>>84052886
>that Air Canada one
Jesus Christ that's so true it hurts.
It's actually cheaper for me to fly out of country than it is to fly within the same province.
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>>84052644
Consider for a moment that it was a group of men from a particular background.
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>>84052260
The problem with that image is how it could have been avoided.

I understand the concept and the danger, but what else could have been done? People were killed, people were exiled. Hollywood, comic books, literature, everything was put into a stronghold...

And yet nothing stopped it, the fifth column won, starting in the sixties when segregation ended despite clear signs that their leaders were backed by the USSR, and from there onward it was all degeneracy.
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>>84052899
The final solution is the easy one, which is why their response can be so quick and loud. You don't have to think about it, you can just react with it to every situation.

When you have to take the time to formulate a proper response to the situation you are at a disadvantage in terms of public dialogue.

Germans are currently trying to integrate the immigrants with things such as sex education but that's not something you can dramatically announce after a molestation case the same way you can with a push for deportation, actually spelling out such a long term solution as that would always sound inappropriate regardless of its effectiveness.
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Stupid fuckable America.
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>>84052822
Or maybe you should go to threads that cater to your tastes?

The entire world would probably be better if people didn't go on to bother others for things that ultimately don't affect them.
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>>84052952
Yes I already considered that when I made the post since that's what the whole fucking conversation was about.
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>>84051895
WHO THE FUCK POSTED A GOOD COMIC IN THIS SHITTY THREAD?!
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>/co/ is so triggered by /pol/ that they can't discuss political comics, the oldest form of comics in existence

I love it, this board is so shit. You reading this are shit too.
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>>84052931
Britain weren't founding members of the EU, De Gaull blocked them from entering for years out of spite.
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>>84052643
Hey, all the businesses that were using the UK as the gateway to the EU are probably just going to hop, skip and jump across the irish sea. Anyone for Celtic Tiger 2.0?
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>>84052940
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>>84052947
Colonialism

Belgium had a thing for cutting off hands in the Congo
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>>84051658

only if they're from before 1960, i don't want /pol/ shit comin in here
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>>84052947
Belgium did some fucked up shit in the congo.
They were the real heart of darkness
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>>84052982
Then you should be able to take the next logical step and realize that people from different cultures don't suddenly mix and may never mix. No country should prioritize foreigners out of some missguided sense of guilt.
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>>84052884
I'd fuck America.
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>>84052947
Belgians were stereotyped as being monstrous to their colonized natives to the point even the rest of Europe said "you can't do that to savages". Theres another cartoon I can't find but its pretty much in the same vein.
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>>84052986
and /pol/ is triggered by anything that doesn't agree with them what is your point?
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>>84052966
>>84052884
God those tshirt-clad tits....
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>>84052644
The left's inability of even talking negative traits by colored people is the reason people are turning to the right. I suggest watching Sam Harris' talk on the phenom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auAWT0TNcfg
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>>84052341
>>84052423
She's saying "I love you" to the guy in red, as she's being fucked by the guy behind her. It's a "declaration of love."
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>>84053015
Why the 60's exactly?
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>>84052506
>Republicans
>For black people
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>>84051765
>we
Fuck off with that, the only person you represent is yourself don't speak on the behalf of anyone else.
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>>84053034
>>84052966
>>84052884
>>84052661
>>84052197
You weren't lying
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>>84053034
What's with these political comics and making the women so fuckable
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>>84053020
>Then you should be able to take the next logical step...

Found your problem mate.
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>>84052195

Turns out Germany's sexual assault laws are totally fucked. That was a disaster for many reasons and on many levels. course good ole 4chan simplifies and uses it for racism/left hating.
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>>84053142
Please elaborate anon, genuine curiosity.
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>>84052968
>Or maybe you should go to threads that cater to your tastes?

No, this is 4chan dipshit.
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>>84053142
So you're saying that mass sexual assault didn't take place as we understand them? Are you sure you're not talking about Sweden's method of reporting rape as a crime there friendo?
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>>84053121
Deport the criminals who are already in the country illegally before they assault more people?
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>>84053148
a bunch of arabs were accused of raping and molesting people, and the backwards germans actually began prosecuting and investigating the accusations!!
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>>84053127
>You will never go into battle with an anime girl on the side of your helicopter.
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>>84052757

lad please, islam as a culture dictates this sort of action because "not muslim = no better than animals"

you are as likely to convince muslims not to rape people as you are to convince asian cultures that individuality is important, its too ingrained
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>>84053197
Oh go cry and shit your pants about how oppressed you are by modern society on /pol/ there are about a dozen threads for it.
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>>84053079
it's called THE PAST
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>>84052395
They are when your immediate reaction is a coverup and no real attempt at investigation.

Middle Easterners don't integrate. That's a problem, and always will be for all the countries that opened their doors to a flood of them.
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>>84053197
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. The guilt of the second world war still permeates the national zeitgeist of Germany. They would welcome their displacement by brown people as atonement for their past crimes.
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>>84053256
>if I do an ad-hominem maybe they'll go away!
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>>84053261
>THE PAST

>>84052506
>Now republican is both
>Now


For fucks sake man, take a bath with your computer.
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>>84053256
That's a strong reaction there, anon. Something you wanna let out?
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>>84053293
>The guilt of the second world war
Upon retrospect, blaming the German people for Hitler was probably a mistake
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>>84053302
>I will greentext him that will show him!
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>>84053324
>redherring.jpg
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>>84053379
jpg.jpg
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>>84053318
Hence Truman not letting the Russians do what they wanted to Germany.
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>>84053254
B-but I think individuality is important
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>>84053272
Don't bother, he's probably some idealist liberal.

I don't think there's a single european country which has taken in muslim immigrants where they're appreciated and assimilate.

My own, Denmark, also sees major problems with ghettos, culture clashes and Islamsation depsite out hippies promising us that mulsims would become less religious with each generation.

This is of course not the case, as they find a comfort in their religion:

http://www.b.dk/nationalt/danske-muslimer-bliver-mere-troende (use google translate)

Now it by no means a major problem, for now at least, but that doesn't change the fact that they're there. Something along 4 percent of the population.
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>>84053388
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>>84053014
>congo
>>84053017
More specifically, their king was a money grubbing piece of shit and wouldn't allow belgian soldier to fire guns without proof that they were shooting at a congolese.

So soldiers were ordered to cut off the hands of every person they shot at as proof that they weren't wasting their bullets.
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>>84053411
But does your country and the culture in it?
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>>84053035
>/pol/ doesn't agree with something
>"Bullshit, lets argue about it, look at these infographs and sources"

>/co/ doesn't agree with something
>"NIGWOOD PLEASE BAN THEM"
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>>84052195
It's a known thing called mass taharrush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_sexual_assault_in_Egypt

It's the same thing that happened to Lara Logan in Egypt while covering the fall of the Egypt regime, where many Westerners first became aware of such a thing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/29/business/media/29logan.html?_r=0

What's surreal is the response of feminists and sjws after the assaults, proof that many of them just use their stance to attack white men and power, and not that of an actual concern for women.
They just like to pretend it doesn't exist or create false equivalence.
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>>84052423
You're not supposed to understand feminist cucks unless you're a cuck
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>>84053074

mainly it's that 40 years is a good enough buffer to have a general consensus on the history and the events aren't really still effecting us or not as directly. and in theory there will be less arguments over the politics in the cartoons. people could argue about Bush v Gore stuff or the Clinton 90s easier than argue about the Taft/Wilson/TR race or US intervention in the Philippines.

and it's a good marking point for a turn in American history which is what 4chan is centered around, related the 60s is when the polarization of left and right in America started to really heat up. the Goldwater to Trump line is pretty clear for example.

tho i forgot about Polandball comics which i'd allow.

>>84053097
>>84053114

good 2 know i'm not the only one with a weird boner
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>>84053451
I wouldn't call random blogs and stormfront to be a reputable source but feh.
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>>84053448
Yeah, American culture is one of the most individualistic in the world. That's probably why I do.
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>>84052091
Fucking hell doesn't that say it all
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>>84052562
No, they aren't hiveminds, they are individuals. Individuals who were assaulted, and individuals who committed assault. And covering for the assault goes against the interests of those who were assaulted. "I don't know how to state this any clearer without being condescending".
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>>84053451

>/pol/ doesn't agree with something
>"GO BACK TO [website scapegoat of the month] YOU FUCKING KEK LIBERAL"

fixed
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>>84053318

well the actual problem was blaming them for WW1
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>>84052554
People who agree with me also don't know what they're talking about. The truth is, Brexit is way too complicated an issue to put to popular vote.
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>>84051990

I have lost all faith in mankind.
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>>84053519
>declare war on France and invade neutral Belgium
>Germany be good boys dindu nuthin
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Are there any Polandball Brexit comics?
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>>84053490
Then why did you think the first anon talked about you?

>you are as likely to convince muslims not to rape people as you are to convince asian CULTURES that individuality is important, its too ingrained

America isn't asian.
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>>84052968
Yes I agree. /pol/ should stay in threads like this and hey, /pol/ maybe?
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>>84053503

The fact of the matter is /pol/ produces images like this while /co/ produces tears. If anything it is an objectively superior board in the sense it actually creates content and reaches a wide audience.
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>>84053522
I don't know, maybe?
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There's a pretty good chance that Parliament will just go "Fuck this, this is retarded" and stop brexit in its tracks and we can get the £ to be less fucked than it is right now.
>>84052338
>everyone ignoring Pogo
Oh, come ON!
>>84052747
Fuck yeah, Gurkhas
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>>84053451
Bullshit, if you call /pol/ out on trump they go full retard and ad hoenim constantly
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>>84053451
>/pol/ doesn't agree with something
>"Bullshit, lets argue about it, look at these infographs and sources"

Well, atleast we know you're not a /pol/ regular.
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>>84053612
Why is temporarily stronger economy worth more then freedom?

Would you be ok with Britain becoming a U.S state?
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>>84053586
Why would he be comparing Muslim individuals to Asian cultures? That's wouldn't be a good analogy. You can make individuals change their culture.
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>>84053256
man, i must have touched a nerve. did the police in your paradise not listen to your rape story?
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>>84053626

You don't actually think Britain would join the U.S. right? They would have to get rid of their queen, the guy who does the actual governing, cars that drive on the wrong side, etc.
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>>84053607
That image is rhetoric and no citations. It's retarded and the fact that you think it has merit towards anything else than confirmation bias is a testament to how emotionally driven you are.
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>>84053607
That's because /co/ is the comics and cartoons board while /pol/ is the questionably sourced infographics board
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>>84053607

>while /co/ produces tears

that's because /co/ isn't a board about politics, dumbfuck. of course it's not going to produce much content relevant to politics.

also nice sources faggot
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>>84053148

basically bc of technicality they didn't actually break laws and the cops fucked up investigating because it was new years and chaotic. by the time they got started trying to find out what happened that night people had taken the story and started using it for agendas. the problem is as much the broken laws and culture of Germany (apparently sexual assault and crimes happen at stuff like Octoberfest pretty often too) as what the people did. there's like a political group that's upset about it not bc they wanna protect the men but that the white Germans don't care until they can express their racism under the cover of caring about women

>“The German law accepts that a man generally has the right to touch a woman, to have sexual intercourse with a woman. It’s his right, unless the woman shows her resistance very, very strongly,” said Chantal Louis, an editor at Emma, Germany’s oldest feminist magazine. “We have a situation where … even touching the breasts or vagina can’t be punished in the logic of that law, because if the perpetrator does it very quickly, you don’t have time to resist. It seems weird and crazy, but that’s German law.”
>That’s because, as far as the law is concerned, verbal consent isn’t really the issue. >The law focuses instead on the overwhelming force of the perpetrator, requiring that there be a “threat of imminent danger to life and limb.” For a court to rule that a woman was raped, and the justice system to put a rapist behind bars, a woman must physically, exhaustively resist her perpetrator. If she can’t prove with her body — with bruises or other injuries — that she fought back, the assault isn’t really a crime.
>One goal of the law, experts say, is to avoid “he said, she said” approaches to crimes, but the effect is to undermine the investigation or prosecution of many rape or sexual assault cases that rely on a type of force the law simply doesn’t acknowledge.

>>84053183

maybe i am.
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>>84053442
Wait, here's a better link:
http://www.somethingawful.com/comedy-goldmine/most-evil-companies/2/
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>>84053558

I should've said disproportionate blame you're right.
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>>84052956
It's really sad isn't it? But better times will come.
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>>84053648
He's merely stating that cultures are hard to change.
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>>84053695

>implying those aren't leftist lies perpetuated by obongo to brainwash you into not hating sandniggers

Nice try, but I get all of my facts from reputable sources such as infowars and stormfront.
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>>84053424
Birmingham's got some problem areas, but mostly the muslim areas are alright. Although that's got more to do with Birmingham being a crushing black hole of mild despair.
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>>84053607
You know if there is a global conspiracy trying to manipulate the masses, I think they are the ones behind /pol/. With "redpilling" being a major part of their secret society's agenda.

They would know the power of counter culture, and what better place to hide than behind the ones pointing fingers at everyone else.
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>>84053451
>/pol/ doesn't agree with something
>"Bullshit, lets argue about it, look at these infographs and sources"

Every time someone does actually know what they're talking about, /pol/ mysteriously vanishes from the thread.
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>>84052644
>calling for mass deportation.
A sovereign nation ejecting guests is bad, how exactly?
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>>84053607

i like that the pope is in on it
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>>84053662
I guess it depends on how much security, stability, or prosperity (lol probably not this last one) the US could offer them.
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>>84052547
I fucking love this comic
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>>84053662
I don't think it would, but I'm asking if you think it would be a good idea.

Seeing as they would get more economic stability.
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>>84053626
Our 'freedom' has come with so many bloody caveats that is doesn't really seem worth it. The NHS being even more doomed, bugger all science budgets, 2/3 major leave points admitted as utter bollocks within a few days, Cornwall crying about the bullet in its foot, Nigel sodding Farage planning to expand his party, a load of the people of voted leave wanting to change their vote because they only voted leave in the first place as a protest, etcetera, etcetera
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>>84053865
I could actually go for some pie.
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>>84051901
>260+ reply thread
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>>84053654
About as much as they listened to you reporting the crime of Europe burning.
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>>84053903
[smug look]
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>>84053616
>if you call /pol/ out on trump

m8, anyone with a brain would realise that calling Trump racist is the most dumbfuck thing ever. It doesn't take /pol/ to realize that.
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>>84053898
>Cornwall crying about the bullet in its foot
I laughed reading that. Fucking Cornish taking money from the EU, voting to leave, then crying that the EU money's gone.
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>>84053786
What about Rotherham? From what I understand mulsims raped scores of british kids for over a decade.
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>>84053803

you would have a point of /pol/ shit didn't come after such a ridiculous amount of progressive cultural shifts in a mere decade, and didn't have all that much fuel to feed their ideology.
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>>84053941
>the truth is dumb
Truml is a racist tho bro. He also doesn't know shit about the government.
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>>84053648
The comparison is simply stating that Asian cultures are heavily collectivist, to the point where family honor is more important than individual honor. This is a culture that is very unlikely to change (naturally anyway). With that in mind, Islam's culture has an ingrained sense that women are worth less than men, and changing that culture is as unlikely/difficult as changing another culture, like Asia's.
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>>84053948
>cultural shifts
A lot of this shit has been coming for a long time son.
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>>84053947

British have had problems not raping kids themselves for a long time, it's not muslim exclusive, which makes it harder to investigate.

>>84053968

how is he racist? coming from a Latino, his over the top coments seem to come off someone who can't even identify races properly to discriminate.

he's right to hate Mexicans though
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>>84053835
It's not, but then again you're not some hippie who believes every culture is equal in effect and lusts after a global united world.
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>>84053898
I guess this is an issue of differing values, I think sovereignty and freedom is more important then temporary economic prosperity.
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>>84053968
Mexicans are not a race.
Muslims are not a race.
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Why hasn't mods shut down this thread?It just turns into a shitty unfunny /pol/
It just turns pure cringe.
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>>84053762
Hurr.
Upvote for you sir.
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>>84053993
I think I remember a line from a UK movie where a guy is in court and he starts thinking 'These judges accuse us of being children then sneak around King's Cross and have sex with them for crack money.' I am guessing that wasn't just a little joke then?
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>>84053968
What did he say that's racist? If you want to say he's prejudiced I could agree with you in certain areas, but what has he said that makes him a racist?
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>>84054014
There's fairly balanced discussion going on, though. And mods typically just autosage theses thread and let them slide to page 10 and beyond.
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>>84053865

I like to take it as true cause Taft didn't even wanna be President, he just wanted to be a judge. chill out and make legal calls.

falling down a rabbit hole it's really funny how many of the election of 1912 cartoons are applicable to today
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>>84053898
>a load of the people of voted leave wanting to change their vote because they only voted leave in the first place as a protest
Were there any numbers for this? I saw that story, and it was like less than ten idiots whining about how stupid they are, basically.
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>>84053558
But they didn't actually START the war, dumbass.
Although they did go extremely overboard...
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>>84053695
>apparently sexual assault and crimes happen at stuff like Octoberfest pretty often too
Eat shit and die, Augstein.
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>>84054011
I don't know what to call a guy who thinks all muslims want to kill Americans or that all Mexicans crossing the border illegally are rapists. If not a racist then what?
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>>84054025
Look up Jimmy Savile

He's the hero we deserve.
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>>84054030
Fuck your blog.
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>>84054011
>Mexicans are not a race.
>It's not racist if you're only talking about a specific ethnicity
So if I said "The Irish are subhuman and deserve to be exterminated" I wouldn't be a racist?
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>>84053993
But the police officers were reluctant to follow through on reports for fears of being called racists, iirc.
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>>84053451
>look at these infographs and sources"
kek

t. /his/
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>>84053198

It's a good thing. It would be a shame if that anime girl suddenly catch on fire and explodes.
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>>84054053
Media picked out everyone they could to say the regretted voting leave. Worst part for me was the number of young people complaining that the older citizens took their future from them. Turnout for under 25s was less than 30%. Idiots.
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>>84054033
Trump and his company got hit with a discrimination suit for denying black people houses. He put out an ad saying how the central park five are animals who should be put down.
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>>84054072
"Bigot" covers both nicely.
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>>84054030
Yes, because "The Conservative Voice in Europe" and the Unabomber are great sources for unbiased political information.
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>>84053607
>Welcome to /pol/ where we take unsourced infographics as the word of God if they are alt-right redpills that conform to our biases.
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>>84054078
TL; DR I'm the unibomber.
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>>84053993
Right cause who ever heard of an ignorant racist?
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>>84054108
It used to be that /pol/tards claimed to be that retarded ironically

Then they just stopped pretending
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>>84054072
When did Trump say any of that? He called for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration (which was later modified to immigration from countries with large terrorist activity) since Muslims are performing a disproportionate amount of terrorist acts/violence, all in the name of Allah. And he stated that illegal immigrants contain lots of rapists and criminals, which is not incorrect. And technically, every illegal immigrant is a criminal by definition.
>>
Mexicans are a race.

They have a distinct genetic profile, appearance, history, and culture.
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>>84053817
Never happened. The more evidence someone has just shows how much more delusional they are and a sensible red pilled fellow won't bother trying to persuade them.
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>>84054108
I see no rebuttal of their claims. Try giving them a read and come back to me.
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>>84054107
Why are you afraid of calling a racist a racist? Dude is exhibiting racist behavior with that shit and you're trying your best to sugarcoat it.
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>>84054106

pretty sure his dad was in the Klan, or had Klan ties.

look at that smiley face
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>>84054138
feels like every extremely popular board goes through that phase.
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>>84054085
Well, Irish isn't a race, so no.
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>>84054085
mexican is a nationality.
their race typically is hispanic or even pure native.

figure it out for yourself
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>>84054144
And if you support the government banning all people based on religion, you are as ignorant of the Constitution as Trump
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>>84054169
>racist behavior

You cannot be racist against things that are not races.
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>>84054144
Muslims are already in America buddy. Muslims in america are getting radicalized so what is ban on immigrants gonna do
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>>84051720
The value will go up drastically after the panic is over and EU is no longer dragging the UK economy down.
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>>84054160
>Come back after you've fully rebutted the Unabomber thesis
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>>84054169
Maybe because criticising anything to do with immigration, Islam, or liberalism in general is automatically racist, so people are starting to get tired of that shit. Especially when people try to finagle definitions so that only white people can be racist.
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>>84054085

No, you'd be bigoted. "Irish" is not a race.

"I hate niggers" is different from "I have Kenyans" since black people can (logically) have the latter sentiment.
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>>84054182
Does the Constitution apply to non-Americans?

Cause how did they do all the Chinese exclusion act shit in the 1800s.
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>>84054169
Since when is "bigot" sugarcoating?
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>>84054085
Mexicans are a hispanic nation and one of the most hated ones. Even in LatAm.

If you started calling mexicans a race. It very likely any other spic would beat you up.
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>>84054219

>Does the Constitution apply to non-Americans?

Only once they're actually on American soil.
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>>84054182
The constitution does not protect non-American citizens.

Never once was there a statement about american citizens muslims. It's about a temporary ban of muslim immigrants (who I will remind you, are not US citizens) from entering the US if they come from areas which has a history of terrorist groups against the us.
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>>84054158
>Mexicans are a race.
>They have a distinct genetic profile, appearance
Kek. Mexicans, as with all Latino country groups, are a nationality and, at best, an ethno-cultural group, not a race.
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>>84054144
>I think Islam hates us
Direct fucking quote motherfucker. He's implying the entire religion hates us.bot ISIS or extremists but the whole fucking religion.
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>>84054209
If he was so clearly wrong then it shouldn't be that much of a thing to do.
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>>84054106
Can you link me to a source on denying black people houses? As for the ad, he called for the death penalty and called the accused animals, which given what happened to the jogger is an expected hyperbolic comment, but he didn't say anything about them being black.
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>>84054235
Then how is banning people from coming based on religion unconstitutional?
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>>84054220
Since when is trump not a racist?
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>>84054159
I really enjoy these mental gymnastics, I wish there was some kind of medal to be awarded for them.
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>>84054198
The distinction probably comes from two points. One is trying to not pull a Sweden and flood yourself with people whose culture is incompatible with your own. The other is trying to do something about addressing the violence coming from Muslim adherents, rather than white-washing it with "everyone does that" and then trying to attack gun owners. Like it or not, that's part of Trump's appeal.
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>>84054265
always
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>>84054265
No I asked a question first

How did you get the idea in your head that "bigot" is not a very harsh word.

Is English your first language because it does not seem like it.
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A reminder that anti-segregation is cultural marxism.
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I'm a trump hating "lib" but I have to agree with
>>84054144
when you make baseless claims like
>>84054072
you only make the opposition certain that you have no idea what you're talking about and it reinforces their black/white rational (something you're probably suffering from yourself). It would be wise to debate on things that actually happened, like the "take out their families" comment rather than echoing some babies first rhetoric that makes your opponent look like a cartoon villain rather than a real one.
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>>84054236

The first amendment stops the US government from making laws that favor one religion over the other, you ignorant shit, regardless of any fucking situation

Eat shit and die
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>>84054261

It isn't, that anon has no idea what they're talking about.
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>>84054261

It's not, the same way waterboarding non-citizens isn't unconstitutional. What concerns people is whether or not it's ethical which is kind of a weird thing to worry about when they group in question openly condones your downfall.
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>>84051882
Why's Durham got the creepy face?
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>>84054158

>Delusional Chicano

Que te den por el culo, puto.
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>>84054254
>Its only a few feet of pure shit you have to wade through!
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>>84054182
You realize that a president has the right to exclude any group of non-citizen from coming into America if said president feels that it is a question of national security, right? This doesn't have to go through congress either, the President simply has that power. There is no question of legality when it comes to this, its just a question of whether or not Trump becomes president.
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>>84053142
Just like in Egypt right, just racists, it's not like it's a documented, reoccurring thing among some cultures, right?
>>84053465
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>>84054295
The constitution does not protect non-American citizens.
If Trump wins, nothing is going to happen to the legal muslim americans.
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>>84054280
>and then trying to attack gun owners
>gun control is an attack on gun owners
The fuck?
Is this that "the government wants to take our guns away" style bullshit when government just wants to limit who gets a weapon designed for efficient killing in the first place?
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>>84054158
There's White Mexicans
There's Black Mexicans
There's Asian Mexicans
There's Native Mexicans
There's Mestizo Mexicans

Mexico is a country not a race. It's out educational system so much of a failure that people can't come to that basic conclusion?
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>>84054255
You can look under America V. Trump management inc,.
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>>84054248

but they do

Islam is predatory to all non-muslims, it seeks to convert or erradicate the infidels and has a world-domination agenda written as part of it's very core beliefs.
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>>84054295

>The first amendment stops the US government from making laws that favor one religion over the other

Well then, it's a good thing no laws would need to be made. It is fully within the power of the President to halt any class of aliens from entering the United States.

>8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens
>(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
>Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
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>>84054248
Based on Pew research, and the Koran, one would arrive at the conclusion that Islam and many of its adherents are not fond of Western culture. Homosexuality, sexual liberty, promiscuity, blasphemy are all no-no's in Islamic countries and Islamic teachings. You can deflect to Christianity all you want, but they don't have nearly as significant a terrorism problem, nor do they control several countries with theocratic governments.
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>>84054290
I like you. Years of 4chan has taught me that the greatest possible enemy to have in a debate is some moron on "my side," as at least the people I'm debating can be reasonable and have nuanced views.
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>The first amendment doesn't protect non-citizens

You ignorant shits

It stops any government action from favoring one religion or disfavoring another

The Constitution does not give carte blanch to abuse non-citizens, and in fact non-citizens enjoy some degrees of rights and protections under it.
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>>84054261
The First Ammendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

A law preventing immigrants from entering the country based on their religion would be a "law respecting an establishment of religion." Therefore, it's unconstitutional.
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>>84054317
Then refute his core claims.
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>>84053465
>>84054321
Bro I'm Egyptian.

Egypt acts harshly on sexual aggressors, don't spread this idea that it's a part of our culture. We're trying to deal with terrorists groups that have been sabotaging our country on every conceivable level including this one for years. We're not just dealing with the occasional mass shooting like you Americans.
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>>84054371

The Constitution only protects U.S. citizens you enormous fag.
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>>84054346
Executive action that violates the Constitution, including the first amendment, is also unconstitutional, you twat
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>>84054248
Islam factually subjugates women and murders gays. It is the islamic teachings. it is in the koran.
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>>84054324
>when government just wants to limit who gets a weapon designed for efficient killing in the first place?

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>i want the government to decide who gets a weapon, such as "not people who aren't happy about the government"

how about you fix society's problems instead?
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>>84054371
Looks like >>84054346 has you dead to rights on this one.
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>>84054323

>If Trump wins, nothing is going to happen to the legal muslim americans.

this guy
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>>84054286
Cause white people can't handle the "R" word. Calling him a bigot and is obscuring the fact he's a racist.
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>>84054371
>>84054377
All of that is in reference to the rights of the CITIZENs to practice religion. Are you still in highschool or something?
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>>84054398

Anon, please stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>84054377
Don't you have to be a citizen to count as being part of "the people"?
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>>84054414
Prove me wrong.
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>>84054324
All guns are designed for efficient killing. That's kind of the point, and also why no one uses muskets anymore. And in order to limit who gets a weapon, they either try to take away the ones we have now, or pull shit like "no fly no buy" which is blatantly unconstitutional since the no fly list has no due process, and is completely shrouded in mystery regarding how one even gets put on there (or how one gets taken off).
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>>84054421

>Cause white people can't handle the "R" word.

What reality are you living in? It's mostly white people calling other white people racists these days.
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>>84054248
It's literally in their holy book that everybody non-muslim is haram. The only thing close are jews and christians and they have to pay taxes because of them not being muslim.
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>>84054398
see >>84054319
Its a presidential power. It doesn't violate the constitution, its baked right into it. The moment he specified that he would stop people form coming from countries with a high amount of terrorist activity it became in the bounds of legality. Go be an ignorant child somewhere else.
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>>84054106
To be fair his dad got hit with a discrimination suit, he just inherited it.
The Bronx Five is "Super Predator" tier racism. Yeah you can call them racist but technically there's no proof it's anything other than a conservative calling for the death penalty of men he believes are guilty.
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>>84054422
>>84054427

That's not even close to what it says. The statement is very clear. "No laws respecting an establishment of religion," not "no laws respecting the rights of citizens to practice their religion."
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>>84054421
Yeah right, because it's white people arguing that they by definition can't be racist thanks to arbitray definitions.
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i'm not an US citizen

if the US consitution applies to me, why can't i own a gun with no background checks?
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>>84054421
Yeah, because a bunch of smarmy liberals throw that word at anyone who disagrees with them on anything, and some even declare that all white people are racist by default (and then use a kafkatrap as their argument).
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>>84054421

You have been visited by the Inspector Redwood of Terrible Board Moderation and Playground Chin-Ups.

Unjust bans and SJW-like censorship will come to you, unless you reply to this post "Moon Man Moon Man, Save Us Please!"
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>>84054421
>Cause white people can't handle the "R" word
Thats why black people are trying to change the definition of racism to only apply towards minorities, right? Because black people take being called racist so well.

>>84054465
The entire constitution as a whole only speaks to the rights of people in America. Every law is under the caveat that its talking about American citizens. A country making a law pertaining to people outside of their jurisdiction is ludicrous.
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>>84054085
No,it would be xenophobic you retard. Idiots like you using racism for everything are the reason it no longer holds any effect for it meaning became too diluted.

And this is coming from a Mexican.
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>>84054465
There would be no restrictions placed on Muslim Americans.
Likewise, we would not infringe of foregin muslims practicing world-wide.

However, there would be a temporary ban from non-us citizen muslims from entering the country, due to concerns of over national security and peace.
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>>84051658
>twenty fifteen
>not two thousand fifteen
What is wrong with some people?
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>>84054403
No fuck you.

If you're on the terrorist watch list you don't get to legally buy a fucking weapon just because some ancient dodgers from a totally different time where the main concern were the British and some indians was manageable with a gun.

It's an outdated law that doesn't even fucking make sense, your gun is not going to defend you from the government, they can just fucking bomb you from the sky if you honestly think you can escalate a conflict to that point.

If people want to cut down on mass shooting clearly they are going to focus on the thing that is present in every mass shooting which is the fucking guns. Hell you know what else gun control would accomplish? It would accomplish the same things it did in Australia, less gun violence, and less gun theft. And with less gun theft then less criminals will get guns illegally (from stealing them). Bet you didn't even consider that second thing, bet your mind instantly went to that "if guns were illegal then only criminals would have guns" shit even though we're not even trying to ban guns here.
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>>84054430

I don't think either of us actually has a case unless he wins but I think historically cutting off group X from your country doesn't go well for those of the group inside the country.

also that shit about how all muslims know who the terrorists are and should report to the police asap shit he was saying after orlando isn't a good sign
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>>84054465
>The Constitution applies to non-citizens who are not even inside the United States' jurisdiction
Just stop.
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>Thread questioning liberals on fucking /co/, one of the most pozzed boards on 4chan next to /soc/
>not deleted yet

No way.
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>>84054465
But hat refers to the people, don't the people refer to the American people.
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>>84054499

>It's an outdated law that doesn't even fucking make sense, your gun is not going to defend you from the government, they can just fucking bomb you from the sky if you honestly think you can escalate a conflict to that point.

this is a good point but i'm worried if you brought it up the response would be "Well we need drones and anti-aircraft guns!"

also no fly list is fucked but it's a start and maybe attaching the gun stuff to it will make them start working on fixing it.
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>>84054514
>I don't think either of us actually has a case unless he wins
Well then we better vote Trump to see which one of us is correct.
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>>84054359
Yeah I'm not sure it's exactly what you're saying but I find I am almost always playing devils advocate rather than arguing what I actually believe in because people on all sides of the spectrum will take some basic idea like individual freedom or social justice and run with it until they're advocating making camps for everyone who disagrees with them.

As I grow wiser I tend to see politics no longer as Left or Right but Rational or Reactionary. Most regardless of their wing are uber-reactionary but think they're uber-rational and until they come to terms with how they handle their opinions they'll be "degenarate" as /pol/ so loves to put it.
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>>84054499
>He actually think the army would be against their own people
No surprise, you already think like a dog.
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>>84054499
The point of insurrection is to threatening enough that messing with you would be too costly.

If you are not armed, what are you going to do about government oppression? Protest it?
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>>84054486
>A country making a law pertaining to people outside of their jurisdiction is ludicrous.

Okay, then I guess we shouldn't make laws about immigration period, because that's a law pertaining to people outside of the US's jurisdiction.

>>84054490
>However, there would be a temporary ban from non-us citizen muslims from entering the country, due to concerns of over national security and peace.

And that's unconstitutional because it would be a law passed concerning an establishment of religion, in this case Islam.

>>84054520
The US constitution applies to which laws the US Congress can make, and it expressly forbids laws concerning an establishment of religion, of which a ban on Islamic immigrants would be one.

>>84054534
Where in the phrase ""Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" is there a reference to the people?
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>>84054499
>give up your guns because the us government will kill you

Wow. I totally want to give up my guns now.
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>>84052380
Oh man, it's even a proper dadrock reference.
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>>84054377
And it also applies to executive actions! And spending govt money on shit like the 10 commandments
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>>84054499
>they can just fucking bomb you from the sky if you honestly think you can escalate a conflict to that point.
I don't know what's more awful, the fact that it might be true, or the fact that you are willingly submitting to the fact. Might as well give up all our rights because they can fucking bomb you to kingdom come with a drone.
Americans are fucking baffling, they have freedoms that they are more than willing to discard.
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>>84054499
>Thinking the government would be retarded enougth to damage the land
>Thinking the army would give their back to their own
>Honestly thinking government have absolute power
Like a true commie.
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>>84054576
>And that's unconstitutional because it would be a law passed concerning an establishment of religion, in this case Islam.

The constitution does not protect non-American citizens.
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>>84054421
But Bigot would actually be accurate since most claims of his "racism" are prejudice on shit not based in race.
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>>84054499
>We should base our gun laws on isolated island nations with populations that are less than a third of our size
>Deporting 11 million illegals is crazy talk. But rounding up 300 million guns is feasible
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>>84054499
A nation still needs to have GDP, we just just fucking nuke america cities. The military isn't as large as you think it is.
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>>84054499

>It's an outdated law that doesn't even fucking make sense, your gun is not going to defend you from the government, they can just fucking bomb you from the sky if you honestly think you can escalate a conflict to that point.

Anon, I want you to consider something here, because you're assuming quite a few things.

Firstly, you're assuming that the government would start bombing its own people en masse, thereby killing the people they want to control and destroying their own infrastructure in the process. Secondly, you're assuming the United States exists in a vacuum and that no other countries would protest or take advantage of the US government declaring war on its own people. Thirdly, you're assuming that the majority of the US military would have no objections to bombing their own people (consider for a moment how many soldiers likely come from conservative, gun-owning families). Fourthly, planes and tanks do not let you control a country on their own, especially one the size of the United States. Eventually you're going to need to put boots on the ground, and that's when things get messy in a nation with over 80 million gun owners and more guns than there are people.

Honestly, you just have a very simplistic view of what would actually happen if the US decided to start killing innocent people in order to enforce laws ostensibly made to stop people from being killed.
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>>84054530
>Thread that has nothing to do with comics or cartoons after the OP
>not deleted
It just shows that mods are lazy as hell
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>>84054576
Because the Constitution only involves the American people, which is why you aren't invading Europe because of our hate speech laws.
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>>84054576
>because that's a law pertaining to people outside of the US's jurisdiction.
Are you a literal retard? A nations borders are within their jurisdiction, clearly. The people trying to cross them, are not, until they've actually accomplished that.
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>>84054499
>If you're on the terrorist watch list you don't get to legally buy a fucking weapon just because some ancient dodgers from a totally different time where the main concern were the British and some indians was manageable with a gun.

how can you tell people on a terror watch list are there for a reason? when most of the ones in the US are people who happened to have the same name as someone else

>It's an outdated law that doesn't even fucking make sense, your gun is not going to defend you from the government, they can just fucking bomb you from the sky if you honestly think you can escalate a conflict to that point.

oh boy you'd like that would you

the government can't wage a fucking open war on it's own soil against it's own people who run it's own infrastructure, you can't threaten to fucking bomb people you tyrannical sack of shit.

there are less than a million US military members and only a fraction are combat arms, and of those combat arms many would revolt before obeying that order.

there are BILLIONS of gun owners in the US, the social unrest would be beyond anything any government organization could ever hope to contain.
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>>84054579
owl in owl yah just anutha brick in thu woll
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>>84054610

one of these threads should have someone dump hawk and dove.

tho this one seems a hair better than usual
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>>84054576
Hi there, only other person in this thread who understand the Constitution! Thanks for trying to explain how things work


This kind of ignorant "First amendment don't cover ferners" shit is what happens when you try arguing the Constitution with /pol/

They are ignorant as all fuck, utterly wrong, and refuse to listen to anything that doesn't fit their biases
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>>84053139
I love the way Germany's eyes shrink when its about to anschlu-I mean get angry.
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>>84054499

Nah, fuck you. I can read the writing on the wall and am not about to vote in a way that will consolidate guns in the hands of people without a very good track record when it comes to people like me (cops, the military, criminals).
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>>84054610
Because it's an election year.
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>>84054560
>>84054573
Oh please you people are wishful thinkers obsessed with a worst case scenario. You've been fed this line of thinking directly by the NRA. Sad thing is they used to be for common sense gun control but then you got scared by a bunch of black people and now you're obsessed with the notion that you won't have a gun that you would rather let a terrorist get a hold of a weapon and shoot up fifty people than to risk the frankly unlikely and paranoia-fueled fever dream that the government is going to personally turn on you specifically.
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>>84054472
The Bill of Rights doesn't grant rights. It only illustrates what rights that human beings naturally have.

You have the right to self-defense therefore you have the right to own a gun. Any law that says otherwise is a violation of a basic human right.

No one in the US can legally buy a gun without a background check though.

Rights aren't granted by human documents. Rights are inherent and absolute. If a man-made law would violate one of your rights then it's ethical to break that law and subvert it as much as you can.
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>>84054401
It's in The Bible too.
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>Gee do I want a guy that might not always say the best things but is trying to improve border security and wants Muslim immigrants to be vetted before entering
>Or do I want "Another 4 Years of Obama: Corrupt Cunt Edition"
Tough choice
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Wait are people arguing guns wouldn't help in a crazy totalitarian government take off or that the US would never have one? Cause the whole thing about the 2nd Amendment was in case we needed another revolution.
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>>84054576
>Where in the phrase ""Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" is there a reference to the people?
The entire Constitution is in reference to the people, numbskull. It's not a constitutional right for anyone to immigrate here.
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>>84054632
>I'm /pol/ because I'm aware that the president can stop whoever he wants from coming here via executive power?

o-ok.
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>>84054599
>The government can't favor one religion over another. Period

>But foreigners.

You are an idiot
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>>84053612
>lowest its been in 30 years
Lets completely ignore how every other european nation's stock market is taking huge losses while the UK's are just fine. Does anybody else actually visit /biz/ at all?
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>>84054632
I'm tempted to call you a samefag, but on the off chance you're not...
You do realize that the US Constitution and its amendments do not apply to non citizens, right? At best you have a case for aliens within US territory, which is not what we are discussing.
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>implying trump would even give a shit about the constitution
>implying there's not an empty seat on the supreme court RIGHT NOW he'd put some lackey in
boom 5-4, It's ok to ban Muslims, lets start the slide down the slippery slope
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>>84054659

I wish Hillary was as "good" as Obama. Hillary just has too much money wrapped up in war and weapons for my taste.
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>>84054499
>If you're on the terrorist watch list

That watch list is racist and unconstitutional. There is no due process to be removed from it. You are never informed that you are on the list. The criteria for being placed on the list is incredibly sketchy and has no real limits. If you're on a watch list like that then why isn't there enough evidence to indict you? There are BABIES on that list. Ted Kennedy was on the list for six months before he could get off of it.

>the thing that is present in every mass shooting which is the fucking guns.

There are mass killings done without guns. Bombs work pretty well.

>even though we're not even trying to ban guns here.

Right. Just keep them out of the hands of people with a secret list that is completely devoid of fairness or due process. Reform that list from the ground-up and then I might reconsider your proposal.
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>>84054640
Then the blood is on your hands every time a lunatic commits a mass murder with a legally bought firearm you delusional shithead.
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>>84052122
I wish this weren't so true.
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>>84054665
Honestly.
Would you rather be with guns when the government decides to start wantonly killing citizens.
Or without them
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>>84054722
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>>84054653

But not in the teachings of Christ, which is what Christianity is.

Mohammed, meanwhile, was a child-fucking psychopath.
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>>84054685
Because you are fucking wrong, and he cant use religion as the basis for exclusion. First Amendment applies to all government action, not just congress, thanks to case law
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>We should give up the guns!
>We should give the rise of power-tripping and corrupt police even MORE power! They will surely not abuse it!
Because that worked SO well for other countries like Mexico.
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>>84054693
There would be no restrictions placed on Muslim Americans.
Likewise, we would not infringe of foregin muslims practicing world-wide.

However, there would be a temporary ban from non-us citizen muslims from entering the country, due to concerns of over national security and peace.
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>>84054713

where are these people coming from who think Trump would be less Hawk than Hillary? I have problems with her foreign policy too but I'll take her over Trump any and every day
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>>84054714
>There are mass killings done without guns. Bombs work pretty well.
Guns are more common and easier to handle.

On the same day of the Orlando shooting, a guy in LA tried to use bombs on the gay pride parade.

But hey turns out it's easier to walk around with a gun than a car full of bombs.
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>>84054642

incidents like that shooting are the fucking definition of statistically irrelevant.

MILLIONS of people own guns as capable as the rifle the Orlando shooter used and not only they wield them responsibly and safely, they also use them and many other kinds of guns to rack up hundreds of thousands of legitimate self defense reports corroborated by police files and the justice department alike.

you know what would have stopped that asshole? if the FBI had actually looked into the reports that said that guy was dangerous.
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>>84054715

I'm willing to accept that if it means not infringing on the rights of over 80 million innocent legal gun owners because of the actions of criminals.
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>>84054661
It was the founding fathers saying "We need to allow the people to arm themselves to be protected in case our own government becomes corrupt"
What fucking kills me is faggots screaming that "THEY ONLY MEANT MUSKETS" and "IT'S ONLY FOR MILITIA" because the founders of this amendment sent letters to the people saying "If you want a fucking cannon for your house, do it man, we said you could", they honestly meant that people were allowed to defend themselves with what ever weapons they wanted because they trusted the American people
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best political /co/ channel on youtube.
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>>84054709
What fucking part of the first amendment mentions citizens you ignorant shit?

It stops Government action. Its why you cant pray in schools or put Jesus in a court room.
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Republicans need to kill themselves en masse.
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>>84052156
>Bernie
>Antlers

top cuck
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>>84054599
But this isn't about non-American citizens. It's about which laws Congress can and cannot pass, and the Constitution makes it expressly clear that there shall be no laws respecting an establishment of religion.

>>84054620
The Constitution applies to which laws can be made on American soil. And no laws shall be made respecting an establishment of religion.

>>84054622
You said that the US shouldn't make laws "pertaining to people outside of their jurisdiction." You then say that immigrants to the US are, prior to entry, outside of its jurisdiction. Ergo, by your own logic, a US law pertaining to immigrants should not be made.

>>84054665
No, the Constitution is in reference to what authorities the different branches of the US government have and what their powers and regulations are, e.g. what laws they can and cannot pass.
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>>84054659
If Obama was running again, I'd vote him before I'd vote Trump.
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>>84054752
>49 people died
>Irrelevant
Yeah sure, they where gay so it doesn't matter right?
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>>84052589
What?
How exactly?

When Britannia is made great again now that they aren't shackled down by the EU's banana policing?
What a horrifying lesson!
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>>84054750
>Guns are more common and easier to handle.

Not really. Homemade bombs are much easier to make and can be used with much less immediate harm presented to the user.

>But hey turns out it's easier to walk around with a gun than a car full of bombs.

All you need to bomb a crowded building and kill hundreds is a homemade bomb and a bag.
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>>84054748
Doesnt fucking mattter

The US Government CANNOT favor one religion over another, via any action, FUCKING PERIOD
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>>84054736
He's not going to, though. His current stated aim is to exclude people coming from countries with a high amount of terrorist activity. Whether its racially motivated or not is irrelevant as long as he doesn't mention it when he declares his intent.
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>>84054749
Trump has never gotten American citizens killed, nor has he ever lead the charge to war on the behalf of his doners.
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>>84054749

>where are these people coming from who think Trump would be less Hawk than Hillary?

I imagine they're people who have been paying attention to Hillary's entire political career.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-hawk.html?_r=0

Trump doesn't have Hillary's track record when it comes to supporting wars and arms trafficking. Why would I assume he would be worse?
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>>84054762
So civilians should be allowed to own nukes?
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>>84054651
>No one in the US can legally buy a gun without a background check though.
Californian spotted.
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>>84054762

>because they trusted the American people

it was still a totally different time culturally and like every other way that matters. No one's living on the frontier anymore.
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>>84054749

it's hard to be more hawkish than Hillary, her relations with Saudi Arabia, Israel and Turkey ensured the middle east will be a powder keg for at least 3 more decades.
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>>84054731
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>>84054774

This person is correct.
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>>84054752
>incidents like that shooting are the fucking definition of statistically irrelevant.
Oh fuck off you've had an unreasonable amount of mass shootings in the past few months alone.

>MILLIONS of people own guns as capable as the rifle the Orlando shooter used and not only they wield them responsibly and safely, they also use them and many other kinds of guns to rack up hundreds of thousands of legitimate self defense reports corroborated by police files and the justice department alike.
You're trying to act like limiting gun ownership from lunatics and terrorists is an attack on every single existing gun owner again. Fuck you and fuck your distraction of a narrative you NRA shill.
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>>84054199
Seriously, the UK was paying for the vast majority of all the problems of everyone else in the EU.
Give it a year at best.
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>>84054778

49 people in a country of over 300 million.

We're talking about a mass shooting, a type of shooting that comprises less than 0.1% of total shooting deaths.

Statistically irrelevant and your feelings will not change that.
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>>84054788

and yet we don't have weekly mass bombings somehow
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>>84053626
>why is yet another fucking recession in the space of a day better than sovreignty we already had?

>Would you be happy with a bullshit scenario that'll never happen?
>>84054699
When the results went public, the £ went to the worst it's been since that recession we had in the 80's. We've now managed to get it back to the worst it's been since the recession we had in the 90's. You and about 17.4 million other people fucked up. Some of them have already realised that, why can't you?
>>84053692
This. We don't go into /pol/ to discuss whether Martin Mystery or Dylan Dog is better.
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As expected this thread turns into an undercover /pol/ thread

Jesus chris you just can't handle the fact a majority of /co/ hasn't fallen for your redpill bullshit like every other board and it triggers you
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>>84054778

>US Population: 318,9 millions (2014)

They are. That many people get killed by thugs in ghettos IN AN HOUR.

Yes, blacks are Americans too.
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>>84054800

In order to a buy a gun you need to pass an NICS background check. It's been this way since 1998 and it's regulated by the FBI.
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>>84054774
The Constitution is about rights, if it involves the entire human race America should invade the entire world.
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>>84051982
>everyone I don't like is a literal Nazi
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>>84054799
No country government should be allowed to own nukes
>>84054805
>it was still a totally different time culturally
So? The way we communicated was also different at that time but I don't see anyone screaming that we only have free speech rights in letters and talking, internet should be censored to hell and back
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>>84054665
The constitution doesnt give anyone any fucking rights

It just says what rights the government CANT take away
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>>84054791
>>84054797

Yeah cause Trump's a fucking shitty businessman playing with his dad's money and not in politics. I haven't done that shit either but that doesn't mean I'm smarter than Clinton in foreign policy.

and his rhetoric and attitude are not those of a dove, c'mon.

though to be fair he didn't say we're gonna turn the middle east into glass like some competitors.

very strange trump actually wasn't the worst case scenario
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>>84054778
>One crazy muslim goes postal
>Now millions of responsible gun owners must give up the guns
SO... THIS IS... THE POWER... OF... DEMOCRACY....
This isn't even about homosexuals. THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT HOMOSEXUALS.
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>>84054774
see:
>>84054346

That is not a law respecting an establishment of religion. But it IS a law that allows the President to stop ANY (this is important) class of alien from entering the United States. Period. End of discussion. The law itself does not favor one religion over another, or one country over another, or one race over another, but it can be used to stop ANY class of non-citizen the President does not want entering the country. This is really very simply, so I'm not sure why you're not getting it.
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>>84054788
>Not really. Homemade bombs are much easier to make and can be used with much less immediate harm presented to the user.
Most mass shootings are done by people who end up purposefully shooting themselves at the end and you're talking about "less immediate harm presented to the user"? Motherfucker these are lunatics we're talking about and they are not going to handle a hand made weapon as well as some manufactured killing machine they can get shipped off from the internet.
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>>84054827

We don't have weekly mass shootings either.

Hell, define mass shooting. The definition is nebulous as fuck. Australia refuses to recognize a 'mass shooting' unless 12 people die. The FBI says six. Other sources say three or more and don't event count casualties, just injuries.

If a terrorist or psycopath can't get a gun? They'll use a bomb. And bombs are worse. Bombs aren't used in self-defense.

You don't get to violate human rights and make profitable black markets just because guns scare you and you're able to dishonestly skew statistics in your favor.
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>>84054835
>>Would you be happy with a bullshit scenario that'll never happen?
It's a hypothetical, and would you?

:^)
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>>84052001
It's funny because /pol/ does the exact same. Their catchphrase is just "Help! Jews" instead
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>>84054815
>You're trying to act like limiting gun ownership from lunatics and terrorists is an attack on every single existing gun owner again


how do you fucking plan to limit gun ownership without implementing a registry that will threaten the privacy and security of all gun owners you chucklefuck
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>>84054871
>SO... THIS IS... THE POWER... OF... DEMOCRACY....
It is but only when I get the results I want, fuck poor and uneducated people.
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>>84054218
It's still a race
In it's most basic formal definition, Race refers to a grouping of people categorized by common descent
It makes sense to say that All kenyans are more closely related than any other background
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>>84054752
>if the FBI had actually looked into the reports that said that guy was dangerous.
Funny thing, he was actually on a terror watch list but the FBI took him off because they thought it was just racist profiling and it doesn't help that the gun owner that sold Omar the guns warned the FBI so yeah, it is the FBI's fault the shooting happened
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>>84054860
>>84051982
Oh fuck, we have been so over this shit.
Isn't that what actual neo-nazis are saying to bait conservatives who share the same opinion? You people want Red Skull to stop being a nazi just so your feelings are not hurt?
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>>84054871
No one is asking you to give up your guns, we're just asking that terrorists don't get access to guns.

Christ you are just spouting NRA nonsense, trying to act a victim about a law that doesn't even target you.
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MOOOOODDDSSS
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>>84054816
Lol, sure, they were all leeching of you and piggybanking on your economy
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>>84054862

well for one thing people don't die from those and generally I think people do accept the constitution is a living changing document for other things.
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>>84052211
>God-Emperor Trump
>Imperium of America
My god someone did it. Someone finally did it.
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>>84054870

>and his rhetoric and attitude are not those of a dove, c'mon.

True. But he is far more non-interventionist than Clinton and was against the Iraq War when Hillary supported it. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Trump would be worse than her when it comes to hawkishness.
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>>84054880
>Most mass shootings are done by people who end up purposefully shooting themselves at the end and you're talking about "less immediate harm presented to the user"?

Why are mass shootings so important when they comprise less than 1% of gun violence? That's just hysterical panic on your part.

And yes, less immediate harm is important. Not all mass murders are suicidal. And stop using the term 'mass shooting' for this. 'Mass killing' is more appropriate since they can happen without firearms.

>they can get shipped off from the internet.

You cannot legally buy a gun from the Internet. Arms listing are not Internet sales.

Go on. Please. Try to purchase a gun from the Internet and have it delivered to your home. I dare you.
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>>84054862
>No country government should be allowed to own nukes
Then who should? The UN? No thanks.
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>>84054879
>Using religion as the sole basis of denying admission is NOT A government action favoring one religion over others.

This is what Trump voters actually believe.
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>>84054912
>crying for mods
>when we're at autosage
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>>84054807
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>>84054871
Democracy is, and always has been the choice of the majority. If the majority didn't agree with you, maybe calling them 'delusional libtards' wasn't the correct approach.
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>>84054862
>No country government should be allowed to own nukes

I agree, but how do you enforce this without nukes?
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>>84054929

>ANY CLASS OF ALIENS
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>>84054929

Then why not just use nationality?

Barack Obama did it. He spent eleven months refusing ALL Iraqi refugees in 2011. And yet no one called him racist because he's a democrat despite the fact that his actions potentially cost hundreds of refugee lives.
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>americans think that rednecks with rifles will somehow be able to stop government oppression

Explain.
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>>84054912
Did things got to heated for you or you simply can't bare the thought of people holding different opinions?
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>>84054835

who's this "we" you pathetic coward

/co/ is my board as anyone else's, i post every day

you're gonna have to deal with the fact that people around you disagree with you and are willing to defend their opinions
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>>84054398
Constitutional rights only apply to US citizens, the President can have as much prejudice towards foreigners as he wants
>>84054928
No one in general should be allowed to have nukes, but no one has the authority to enforce a ruling like that on the world
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>>84054950
>Democracy is, and always has been the choice of the majority.
You should tell that to the bong libtards, they need to know that more than anyone right now.
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>>84054965

Pic related.

But please, go on. Tell me about all the ways an unarmed civilian population can resist tyranny.
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>>84054852
WE ALREADY HAVE
>I'M AFRAID OF AMERICANS
>I'M AFRAID OF THE WORLD
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>>84054965
Look at Vietnam and Iraq.
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>>84052188
>>84052176
>>84052156
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>>84054965
see:
>>84054605

In short, you're drastically oversimplifying what would actually be an incredibly complex scenario.
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>>84054970
>no one has the authority to enforce a ruling like that on the world
Pretty much. Until the true God-Emperor of Mankind reveals himself, the only means of enforcing nukes is by people with nukes. A broken system, but a system nonetheless.
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>>84054965

>The Vietnamese think they can resist a full-on American invasion with nothing but rifles and uneducated farmers

Explain.
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>>84054964
That's what his new ban proposes and it seems to have successfully blacked out half of Europe and pretty much all the Middle East.
>>84054970
The issue they're claiming is, no it doesn't, it's about what laws they can and can't pass.
>>84054965
They did it once.
>>84054807
If only real Hillary was that hot.
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I'm planning a one, though it's not a snarky one loaded with political commentary and opinions, it's just a story about the US election and male friendship
The plot is getting a bit gay though
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>>84054963
First Amendment wins, dipshit. Thats how constitutional law works.

>>84054964
That he actually COULD do and it would be perfectly constitutional. But Trump is a fucking moron who doesn't understand the Constitution or subtlty, just like his supporters.
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>>84054989
I don't think Bongs in general know what voting is, seeing as how they had no clue what the fuck they were doing when they voted pro-Brexit, and now want a revote
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>>84054967
I doubt this is true
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>>84054948
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>>84054912
500+ posts, broski.

We're on our way out.
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>>84054991
>>84055008

I never mentioned anything about bombs or anything like that. The army will have better guns and soldiers with actual training. You can't win.
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>>84054967
Oh boy, we're doing the old "Anyone who disagrees with me hates freedom of speech". Way to ignore all the truth in the image I posted, fuckstick.
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>>84054966
No I just don't want any of this bullshit on my board

Why don't all of you take this discussion to /pol/

Also you stopped posting political comics
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>>84054965
Vietnam.

A bunch of lednecks with lifles kicked out the French, wore down the Americans that came after them, and slaughtered the Chinese that came after them. It works.
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>>84055035
No, those who vote to remain want a revote but now with "no lies" so the uneducated vote for remain.
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>>84054499

>Not trying to ban guns here

Fuck you, you fucking liar. Both Obama and Hill-Dog have mentioned supporting 'assault weapon bans'.
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>>84054847
Private transfer.
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>>84054011
>>84053968
He's never even said Mexicans, he said illegal immigrants. People never want to differentiate this however, which is offensive in its own right, and instead conflate it to say he's talking about all Mexicans.

The Mexicans that are here legally he's said were not an issue and were never an issue. No legal citizen is going to be deported. However the illegal immigrants that come over are not the media sob story of a poor war torn family that the media loves to portray. A lot of the ones coming over are on the run from something, or smuggling something. There are good people, but that doesn't mean we're supposed to just look the other way when this is against the law. We keep hemorrhaging hundreds of billions each year because of the media sob story that they're all good so we shouldn't police anything.

What he said was not wrong; he never said Mexicans were bad or anything similar, he said illegal immigrants were a problemand the ones coming over were costly in different ways and this border needs to be shut and regulated properly.

Its like America is a store that constantly gets robbed; yet we can't actually call the police or it'll seem immoral because the thieves are probably doing it for good reasons so we look the other way. Someone finally wants to call the police, so he's jumped on and called racist or evil. The thieves are not all customers, the thieves are the ones who come in with a gun and rob it. But the only argument they can make is conflating it to be all customers and being pig-headed when it gets pointed out this isn't the case.
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>>84054967
>you're gonna have to deal with the fact that people around you disagree with you and are willing to defend their opinions
this "we" can do. The main problem is that many on /pol/ are so caught up in confirmation bias that they have to make /pol/ based discussion the topic else where.

It would be like getting daily threads on /pol/ by totaldrama fags trying to affirm that their waifu is the most MAGA, before talking exclusively about the show and nothing about politics. It makes you look desperate as fuck and reeks of you having little faith in what you preach. Moderation isn't only good for rebels, anon.
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OP go back to /pol/ you fucking nazi fuckwit
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>>84054965
They can't? Why would the people from third world shitholes be more able?
>BUT THEY BOMB YOU N SHIT
Until they find a way to mind control all of the military, that's just a far-fetched assumption, or did you forgot how fucking messy shit got when they did it to crazy child fucking cultists in Waco?
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>>84055056
see:
>>84055008

>In short, you're drastically oversimplifying what would actually be an incredibly complex scenario.
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>>84053968
Calling trump racist is like calling glass or a mirror white. It shows your ignorance of judgement.
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>>84055069
No, it's also the Leave-voters
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html

There seems to be a general level of stupid that is messing with the democratic system right now, like people really believing in the schoolyard rule of 'backsies'.
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>>84055056

>You can't win

Yes. You can. A civilian army with no uniforms is fucking terrifying.

And that insurrection is sure to have plenty of military defectors with the same training you're talking about.

Vietnam did it despite being an uneducated shithole with outdated weapons and no Internet. The US civilians would be even worse.

There is no virtually no imaginable scenario in which a full-on armed insurrection in the United States could be stopped by the federal government.
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>>84054991
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>>84055080

>assault weapon

Anyone talking about "assault weapons" should just be ignored as not knowing what the fuck they're talking about.
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>>84051658
You fell for my trap, /co/!

>>>/pol/78710410

Stay cucked.
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>>84055111
>trusting the media who were always for remaining
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>>84055084
To be fair he said that judge couldn't be impartial because he was Mexican. Even if he was trying to allude to his ties to La Raza, he still made it sound as he couldn't be impartial simply because his ethnicity.
>>84055108
The fuck does that mean?
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>trump says vaccines cause autism and violent video games need to be stopped
>gets blind support from 4chan because he's an epic maymay
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>>84055083

Requires a fee and a background check.
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>People are honestly against UK having independent democratic freedom as a country
The EU is a fucking shitshow that takes away all freedom from the nations, it's good that they got out
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>>84051982
I thought the Red Skull was supposed to be a villain, are Marvel advocating for Nazism now or did he just change his ways and become a hero instead?
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>>84055137
PRAISE LORD KEK XDDD
EBIN SIMPLY EBIN
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>>84055100
You're thinking of a direct approach. It's more a war of attrition. Make it so that it is too damn expensive to maintain a war that said government gives up and goes home.

In a nutshell, send wave after wave of men at the guns until they run out of ammo and shut down.
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>Caring about Politics in the modern year
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>>84055084
>They're rapists, murderers, and some, I assume, are good people
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>hit autosage

i can finally stop posting

bliss
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>>84055058

you're saying i'm wrong for being here, FUCK you.

you won't run me out, i belong here even if you don't like me.
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>>84054106
Trump questioned a judges decision because of his heritage. He whined and connected the recent shooter to 'Islamic terror' despite him being born in America and said we should even be weary of '2nd Generation Immigrants.'

That seems pretty racist to me.
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>>84055084
>America is a store that constantly gets robbed

well if the u.s.a. (america is the continent) would just stop smugling illega weapons to his neighborhood, mexico would not be so shitty
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>>84055143
B-but muh imaginary 1%er money, muh easy travel...
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>>84055137
We live in meme age so meme president sounds plausible
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>>84055167

>In reference to illegals.
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>>84055128
>The thing about the media, is that they twist existing facts. They could only twist this into a remain stance if there really were leave-voters that were that fucking stupid.
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>>84055143
I want this meme to end.
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Only the idiotic far-left supports restrictive gun control, from what I've seen.

Every Republican and moderate Democrat that hasn't gone full retard wants the gun-grabbers to fuck off. Hell, gun control isn't even popular on Tumblr, they get torn to shreds.
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>>84055185
>He whined and connected the recent shooter to 'Islamic terror' despite him being born in America and said we should even be weary of '2nd Generation Immigrants.'
There's nothing about this that's inaccurate.
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>>84055143
Someone will want to tell the blokes at Cornwall this means they can't get all that money from the EU anymore. They're still waiting for the check in the mail.
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>>84055094

so we can't have the occasional thread where politics is the topics because there's a risk that people are going to say things you don't agree with, right?

only you lord almighty might express yourself in your totally awesome, mature, balanced way.
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>>84055185

>and said we should even be weary of '2nd Generation Immigrants.'

Well...shouldn't we be?
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>>84055049
Hillary really wants your vote in her ballot box
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>>84055105
>oversimplifying what would actually be an incredibly complex scenario
Did you expect anything else? These people seems to think the world is a simple place.

>Refugees? Gives them everything and take as many, no one would ever lie to get any benefits.
>Religious terrorist? No, this person said his religion is peace, this terrorist must get their radical ideologies from somewhere else.
>Guns? Why do you need guns? Just call the police, the government will bomb you anyway also my brother and friends in the army will not ask when being told to go and kill me or occupy their hometown by any means necessary.
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>>84055138
Not in most states, Californian.
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>>84052966
>Tie knots
Now you're talking my language!

... I think.
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>>84052908
Is this the gay agenda in action?
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>>84055213
This is pretty much the mentality of gun grabbers vs people who don't support gun control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UujtfN7hCdo
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>>84055167
>acknowledging the capacity for good and evil regardless of their nationality/ethnicity
I see nothing racist here.
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>>84054288
And reminder that cultural marxism is a buzzword with no merit or meaning.
You use products made in China anon, OOoooo you're a cultural marxist anon so spoopy.
>Wiggles aves fingers
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>>84055161
That's a terribly cold way of thinking. Guns should be deterrence, because no one wants to see a shitshow like that happen.
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>>84055187
The american government legally gave all those guns to cartels
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>>84055143
No fuck you!
I had my vacation planed but now I can't travel anywhere because I'm stuck with a shitty British citizenship rather than a European one.
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>>84055265
Fuck off scun, I don't use any product from commie nations.
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>>84055281
Just get a fucking passport
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>>84055185
>People who are raised with as much of the first culture and being told their are not Americans but X-American and their alliance should always remain with their roots
Not shit man
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>>84055181
Sure, if you discuss comics and cartoons. Hell, post pro-Brexit political cartoons, if you want, but don't just talk a load of /pol/locks without so much as a bye or leave
>>84055225
>so we can't breaks the rules, even though a containment board was made especially for discussing politics, right?

>if I strawman the fuck out of you pointing out the bloody obvious, then I win!
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>>84055271
But it works. Vietnam

>wave after wave of men at the French until they were overrun
>wave after wave of men at the Americans till their casualties were too high and America wanted out
>wave after wave of men at the Chinese till they said 'fuck this I'm out'

Well actually no, with China it was
>Show off womens' boobs to Chinese, then shoot them all while they were ogling.
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>>84054860
/TRIGGERED/
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>>84055262

>That video.

Thank you for this.
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>>84055281
Thank god Brits stop ruining places like Ibiza and Sunny Beach now
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>>84055309
A passport doesn't make part of a large union, we where part of the big picture, now just a fucking island.

We lost so much culture is not even funny.
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>>84055271
"If you want peace prepare for war" is a maxim old as, I don't know, a very old thing of some kind. Having resolve to fight is the only hope you have to never need it.
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>>84055213
Most gun-grabbers are the same kind of people that promote censorship. They can't be arsed in having enough character to be responsible and be able to differentiate between good and bad, so they want faceless groups to do it for them.
They want to be regulated.
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>>84055319

your kind only ever complains there's off topic /pol/posting when people argue against the grain of what you believe, stop being an hypocrite if it's even physically possible.
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>>84051986
Now, that's just the kind of patriotism that turns a man on.
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>>84054659
>That overlooking of Trump's lunacy
Anon, if a President said his border policy was to practice black magic and summon a dragon to guard the border with riddles, would you vote for him? Especially when every detailed question of whether that's realistic is replied with "OH OKAY BUDDY THE DRAGON JUST GOT 10 FEET HIGHER PLUS WE'RE GIVING IT LASER ARMS AND HEAT VISION TOO!"

You're talking about someone who wants to waste trillions of dollars trying to summon a dragon.
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>>84055354
>We lost so much culture is not even funny.

The UK leaving the EU somehow erases centuries of British culture overnight? Because you can't go on a dammed vacation?

There's being angry at that decision and then there's just being plain retarded.
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>>84055354
Part of a big picture where you had to abide by the decisions of a body you didn't and couldn't vote for.
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>>84055378

Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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>>84055409
We had access to European culture, now we just have British culture.
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>>84055407
>You're talking about someone who wants to waste trillions of dollars trying to summon a dragon.
Firstly your fucking metaphor is shit, secondly, a wall would be fucking much cheaper than the billions used on illegal immigrants every year, thirdly MEXICO'S GONNA PAY FOR THE DRAGON
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>>84055436
You can still go there dumbass.
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>>84055225
why does this say (you) to me when it was not my post?
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>>84055407

I could be compelled to vote for Trump if he was actually trying to summon a dragon with laser arms and heat vision.
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>>84055213
never run a political campaign on guns. Doesn't work.
Americans of all walks of life enjoy their guns.
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>>84055450
But now we need a passport and it cost us, now we aren't citizen but tourist.
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>>84055436
"European culture" is now just American culture and you can't escape that anywhere except North Korea
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>>84055441
Whoops, forgot to cover his Little Boy
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>>84055407
How crazy can the 70 year old man who has been a well known public figure for the last 50 years be?
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>>84055472
Still better than a monocultural society.
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>>84055262
Oh god show this to /k/.
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>>84054377
better impeach obama then, he banned muslim immigration for 6 months a few years back.
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>>84055407
>Anon, if a President said his border policy was to practice black magic and summon a dragon to guard the border with riddles, would you vote for him?

Still better than Hillary
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>>84055445
Mexicos not going to pay for the dragon.
>>84055490
I don't know if this is sarcasm or not.
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>>84055491
Oh don't worry, most of immigrants in Britain come from Pakistan and India and this won't affect that at all.
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>>84055453
>>84055225

wait nvm, it was showing that you responded to someone else for some reason.

You can totally have political topics, just don't make posts like >>84051727
or the one I'm responding to. When you say "oh you disagree? you must be a faggot and probably are EVIL" people tend to call you out for being full of shit. You're not really discussing politics at that point, you're just getting triggered, making assumptions and then crying that everyone didn't agree with you right off the bat.
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>>84055398
again, you have a whole board for that. Stop pretending you're doing anything other than breaking the rules of your own board. Several people have explained why you're in the wrong, stop being butthurt because you're triggrered by facts.
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>>84052310
America effectively lost too, or have you never heard of Yuri Besmenov?
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>>84055491

There is no inherent advantage to multiculturalism. There is nothing wrong with a monocultural society.
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>>84055491
>The diversity is good meme
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>>84055501
We've seen it, but thanks anyway.
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>>84055490

For all the ridiculousness he displays on stage, playing up to an audience of millions, by all accounts Trump is pretty level-headed when it actually comes to his business dealings. Sometimes it feels like "Trump: The Presidential Candidate" is not the same guy as "Trump: The Man".
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>>84055549
But jazz and rock would never have been invented if America were monocultural
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>>84055398
Have you made any posts that don't contain a strawman? Have you considered people might just hate self righteous unaware dolts? Maybe it's your presentation that is so repulsive?
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>>84055407
Unless that wall extends 50 meters deep and 5 miles high, I don't see it working. A lot of illegal immigration happens when people that fly over overstay their VISA. A wall seems like nothing but stroking Trump's self-proclaimed building fetish.
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>>84054925
>Why are mass shootings so important when they comprise less than 1% of gun violence? That's just hysterical panic on your part.
I love how gunNuts use this argument that because shooters compromise less than 1% of all gun owners they should keep their guns.

But these are the same type of people that if told rapists and terrorists comprise less than 1% of all Syrian immigrants, will scream at the top of their lungs how muslims and refugees are destroying Europe and demand they be barred.
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>>84055491
Sweden please
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>>84055491

Multiculturalism creates a fractured society. It doesn't create unity, it creates division. A multicultural society invariably leads to multiple parallel societies rather than a strong, unified one.

Multiculturalism is a failed idea. Integrate. Fuck, even Merkel agrees with this.
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>>84055491

Why? Isn't the ideal world one with many different monocultures that form a multicultural whole?
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>>84055599
That or he is going to have one of his companies build the wall and line his own pocket.
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>>84055603
>But these are the same type of people that if told rapists and terrorists comprise less than 1% of all Syrian immigrants, will scream at the top of their lungs how muslims and refugees are destroying Europe and demand they be barred.

Okay? Well, I'm not one of those? I'm pro-gun and have no problem with Syrians?

Soooooo what's your argument now? Do you still have one? Or was pointing out the hypocrisy that I don't actually have the farthest you've gotten?
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>>84055582
As we know them? Maybe not, but I doubt hundreds of years of people fucking around with string instruments wouldn't lead to something of the sort.
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>>84055603

Two wrongs don't make a right, anon.
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Thoughts on these recent speeches?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFIVXkJWzfA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUW2-MUonbo
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>>84055617
>First world are multicultural
>Third world shitholes monocultural
Sure no difference.
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>>84055617
No the ideal world is the destruction of white societies

Source: my gender studies degree
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>>84055582

Why wouldn't it have? Music genre is ideas and ideas persist whether or not culture is mixed or not. It still would've come about in some form.

Nowadays that shit ain't even multicultural. It's just an inherent part of monocultural America. Everyone is familiar with jazz, blues, and rock.
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>>84055279

well hilary will make legal that niggers rape people at streets, everyone gets what they deserve
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>>84055599
It'd probably make things more difficult for physical border crossers and I doubt the wall would just be an unattended wall.
I mean not that there's really anything concrete about his proposal it'd probably be like Israel or Hungary's wall.

Best way to handle illegals though is learn whatever Mexico's technique is for passing them onto us and do it to Canada. I mean that place is fucking EMPTY and they love their refugees.
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>>84055610
There has never been a pure unified society. Subcultures naturally arise, culture wars are simply substituted with class wars, people will still be divided by age and gender and income and religion and politics just like they are now
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>>84055185
>membership to La Raza is a "heritage"
Look, I get that you don't like Trump, but if all you can do is lie about facts that can be easily looked up on the internet then it means that your hate is just irrational fear born out of ignorance. I mean you needed to use a computer connected to the internet to post that, so why didn't you even bother to check if what you were typing was correct?
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>>84055661

Actually, some of the worst places on the planet to live are considered multicultural.

Eritrea, which lacks behind even North Korea in terms of human rights violations and journalistic freedom, is composed if nine different ethnic groups.
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>>84055539

i'm literally doing the same thing as you by expressing my opinion on a discussion you snide piece of trash, it's not off-topic because you don't agree with it, go to hell.

>>84055584

i don't know, have you?
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>>84055629
I like how Trump talks about it could be creating jobs, how about creating jobs by fixing the infrastructure you ffffucker?
I live in the state with the worst fucking rickety bridges in the whole fucking country.
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>>84055610
>Multiculturalism creates a fractured society. It doesn't create unity, it creates division.
Only if you don't create a single national identity that each subculture embraces or accepts.

>A multicultural society invariably leads to multiple parallel societies rather than a strong, unified one.
Only for those who failed at creating said identity.

China is proof of that. 55 different cultures, all subscribe to being Chinese despite being totally different from each other.

>56 once Tibet stops demanding independence
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>>84055582
You're right, since monocultural America would mean the one before British people went there.
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>>84055712
Your state has highway funds provided by the feds, tell THEM to fix it.
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>>84055671
Because their roots come from blended African, Latin, and American folk traditions. Jazz and rock are multicultural genres. The ideas in them come from different places, and it would take eons for one culture to independently invent each of those ideas..
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>>84055691

True. But the issue here is whether or not multiculturalism is inherently good. There is no evidence that it is.

Culture evolves naturally over time. That is completely different from introducing different cultures en masse during a short period of time.

If the USA was nothing but white people it would still be multicultural. You'd have your Appalachian people, your cajun people, your New Englanders, etc. This is primarily because the geography of the country is diverse and there are a lot of people scattered over a large portion of land.

And no one fights for the right for someone to be a non-conforming New Englander in Appalachia.
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>>84055735

I hope you're not implying the natives formed a unified monoculture.
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>>84055735
No it wouldn't. Ignoring the fact it's not technically America, it was populated by tons of different native tribes with their own cultures.
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>>84055661
I tend to think this is true because a multicultural society informs itself to have a better mono-cultural society. Most societies maybe have figured out that rape and murder is bad, but their food is shit. Along comes a society with plenty of rape and murder but also lots of good food, as the cultures dissolve, out goes the rape and murder and out goes the shit food. Now you've got a rape-less murderless society with good food, time to look for the thieves and the beggars that also might produce good art.

(obviously it's not always this clean cut. Some cultures will have a lot of good things while others will be almost absolute shit but the basic principal works.)

The problem is when people look at the rape and murder and say "that's ok, it's just what those people do and no one should try to change that"
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>>84055752

People experiment naturally with music. A monocultural society would still eventually produce jazz and rock. New music genres emerge all the time even in monocultural societies. Multiculturalism isn't special.

Maybe we'd have different music genres in a monocultural place than we do now but they'd still be different and diverse.

It's not like any of that matters anyway. Diverse music genres don't lead to prosperity.
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>>84055703
No, it's off-topic because political discussion belongs on /pol/. Also:

>NO U
Boy, you sure showed him.
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America has always been multicultural society since Europeans moved here. But Europe isn't America and Europe is built on history.
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>>84055695
What's wrong with belonging to a lawyer's association?
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>>84055407
Have you considered that your beliefs make you look insane and that when normal people see crazy people hating something they're not likely to take the crazy person's side?

Read what you typed aloud. Does it sound like it's representative of reality? Or better yet, have someone else read your posts to you, if you were acting as an impartial observer, would you consider the person screaming about dragons and lasers as having a sane viewpoint?
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>>84055703
>i don't know, have you?
that one and this one.
We've got a board called /pol/, the pic in the sticky should give you a hint at what a strawman is if you're confused.
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>>84055574
I hope it's just a mask. I'd rather not have a president that thinks we can realistically build a wall several times the length of the Great Wall of China and it will change anything, as opposed to Mexicans tunneling, boating or just flying over.

It would be a financial disaster.
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>>84055800
Here you are arguing in the same thread.
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>>84055795
Give us some examples if these genres of music.
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>>84055747
Those funds are not enough to keep roads maintained. The US demonstrably does not have enough funds allocated to keep infrastructure maintained. Shit's falling apart. Flint could easily happen again. A border wall would be turning to rubble by the end of Trump's presidency.
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>>84055800
>No, it's off-topic because political discussion belongs on /pol/

right behind you then, make a /pol/ thread and i'll see if i ever visit that place. Then maybe NEITHER of us will be breaking the rules.
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>>84055795
Monoculture is pretty much a dream anyway. We exported jazz and rock and imported British rock back, and everybody on both sides of the Atlantic loves that shit. I'd say after the invention of the radio, it was impossible to stop the free flow of culture.
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>>84055574
Anyone who's known an iota about Trump before the election is bound to be a little weird out about the way he's acting over the election. Almost feels engineered.
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>>84055822

i don't think you understand what a strawman is, and you're just repeating a smoke screen tactic you've seen elsewhere.
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>>84055852
I never mentioned trump, only you did.
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>>84055842

In largely monocultural societies classical music naturally evolved from Renaissance to Baroque to Classical to Early Romantic to Late Romantic. Humans naturally experiment and their artwork evolves.

Multiculturalism is not necessary for this process.

And even if it was, why is that important? Does jazz music feed people? Does it raise the standard of living? If there was no jazz music then what would be the problem? Would people who have never heard jazz sadly lament a world without jazz?
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>>84055610
Nah.
A monocultural society just leads to a circlejerk.
4chan is multi-cultured for instance. That's why we can have boards as different as /co/, /v/, /r9k/ and even /tg/ or /mlp/.
Reddit is monocultured, and whatever sub-reddit you go to will be structured identically. The dialect and terms of engagement will be the same, thus the hugbox.

Do you want your country to be a circlejerk hugbox anon? Do you want it to be Reddit?
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>>84052672

Tag yourself. I'm the apple.
Cause I'm all OVER those fat chicks.

#apple
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>>84055804
Lawyers associations by themselves? Nothing. Legal branch of the La Raza terrorist group? There are many things wrong with that. It's not like he's representing them in a trial (which would still be conflict of interest as a JUDGE), he's actively providing aid to a group linked with beheadings, shootings and drug trafficking.

Do you get that? Are you able to make the distinction? It's like providing aid to the Irish Orphan Legal Fund is ok while providing direct aid to the NRA or ISIS is not ok. Especially while acting under the legal authority of a judge.
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>>84055924
Wasn't the Renaissance a thing because they got a bunch of foreign scholars books? Seems like importing culture to me.
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>MUH FOOD
>MUH MUSIC
When did new recipes and musical genres lead to prosperity? This shit are side dish.
>Inbe4 Everything is connected! It doesn't matter the degree it is!
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>>84052236
Except they really haven't.
>white Democratic politicians keeping blacks enslaved by economic means

>white Republican politicians trying to make blacks free by leaving them to their own devices

Free market frees all.
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>>84055926

Imagine if we got a new board in which posters are only allowed to communicate in French despite the fact that 4chan is an English-speaking website.
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>>84052956
The used our own Constitution against us.

The Freedom of Speech means that even the Soviets were allowed to speak. And speak they did.
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>>84055731
I don't really care about that whole mono/multi cultural debate because whether or not it's good for societies should be left to the philosophers.

Greek was multicultural in antiquity, and it got shanked.
Rome made itself monocultured and still got sacked.
America is multicultural and rich, the EU is multicultural and becoming a vast shithole.

There's no real formula to it. So the only way to approach it is asking "Do you want to live in a boring world where the world is predictable but has stability?" or "Be a part of a culture that lends to risk and uncertainty but more choices and opportunity."

But I spend all day on 4chan so what the hell does it matter to me.
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>>84055965
You are not even sure of what you know yet you defend the ground like you are?
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>>84055661
Hmm... Korea and Japan sure are third world.
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>>84056009
>Rome made itself monocultured and still got sacked.
Rome fell when it became multicultural.
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>>84055905
>A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent

So when you say something like

>so we can't have the occasional thread where politics is the topics because there's a risk that people are going to say things you don't agree with, right?

only you lord almighty might express yourself in your totally awesome, mature, balanced way.

You're setting up a strawman argument that I obviously would never make because it's silly and weak.

Care to explain the smokescreen comment? I am getting hints of irony from it.
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Damn, now I understand why you guys are called /co/mblr.

This board is cucked as fuck.
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>>84056012
I remember hearing something like that before and I am not sure if it is true or not. I figure that it probably does hold water since I doubt that Europe was able to pull itself out of the middle ages so quickly on it's own without any outside influences.
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>>84055661
>>Third world shitholes monocultural
African shitholes are said to be victims of colonialism, which forced different ethnicities together within artificial borders.
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>>84055963
>Legal branch of the La Raza terrorist group?
The SDLRLA isn't affiliated with any other group with the words "La Raza" in it. Do you think United Blood Services is a branch of the Bloods?
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>>84055127
>bluepill
>not wanting to suck stormfag cock
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>>84051658
Had a good ol' kek m9
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>>84056075
yeah he has a knack for subtlety.
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>>84055582
How terrible, two shitty forms of music wouldn't have came around.
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>>84055985
hop on over to /fr/ general on /int/, friendo

>>>/int/61296133
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>>84055712
You realize he regularly mentions our shitty bridges and roads and that we need to fix them... Right?
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>>84052644
The left are the ones turning it into a racial problem, middle easterners are caucasian and Islam is not made up of a single race.
Complaints directed towards Islam and middle eastern culture are misconstrued as racist by liberals because middle easterners commonly have brown skin.

It's just another example of the left being more racist than those they admonish.
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>>84055914
...the whole conversation was about Trump. Keep up son.
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>>84056054
Nah, everybody knows that classical Greek and Roman culture originally came from France
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>>84056047

apparently you have a goldfish memory so i have to go through it all over:

it wasn't a /pol/ problem until the argument turned around and the less progressive opinions got the upperhand, THEN it was /pol/, no way people from /co/ could think differently from the liberal, because /co/ is /co/mblr amirite

clearly, only people who disagree with you must go to /pol/ for discussing politics because they have the WRONG politics, in this politics thread.
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>>84056085
You've stated that La Raza is a "heritage" and don't see a conflict of interest while calling anyone who does as "racist". Now that you've been called out on it you're trying to strawman in the hopes of changing the subject.
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>>84056152
Does he explain how if I take courses at Trump university?
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>>84055819
>LeL you're insane argument
The Mexican border is 1,989 miles wide. It cuts through forests, cities, houses and rivers, villages and deserts, and is basically an arbitrary line across a territory that is so diverse that cutting through it singularly would be impossible.

Where is the concrete and asphalt going to come from to build a wall for nearly 2000 miles? How are we going to get the border patrol to watch that many miles, what about maintain and keep it functional year after year with repairs, ect. What about underground, it'd have to be several more meters deep just to prevent tunneling. We're not even talking some Berlin Wall, this would be more than 10x bigger than that, and even that had to be armed with towers and assault rifles to dispatch climbers, it was a nightmare financially for East Germany. The mathematics behind it are staggering and mind boggling stupid once one even tries to approach it realistically. Yet Trump supporters don't care about that or how absurd and unfeasible such a project really is, they just hear 'BUILD WALL', nevermind the symbolic and obvious implications of building walls historically has, generally been negative.

So why don't we be objective about whose beliefs are considered insane here? I was just saying a magical dragon is as plausible as wasting American Tax money on a giant wall over the Mexican border.

Tell me, do you feel sane when you think about this stuff? Assuming you do think about these implications in depth.
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>>84056152
Everyone mentions them, but no one wants to talk about the tax increase that would be necessary to pay for the fixes. The Republican solution would involve budget cuts elsewhere to offset it.
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>>84055926
Multiculturalism on 4chan would be shitty general threads alongside regular ones.
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>>84056152
Yes. But supporters and dissenters alike love to ape over some THE WALL instead of the boring roads and bridges they use daily.
All I'm saying is that he should focus on the plausible goals instead of promising controversial and stupid shit.
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>>84056183
There's nothing wrong with belonging to an independent lawyer's association.
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>>84055926
>/co/, /v/, /r9k/ and even /tg/ or /mlp/.

Don't those boards rarely interact with one another? There are borders. You can't post /v/ shit on /co/ or the thread will be deleted. You can't post /r9k/ shit on /tg/ or the thread will get deleted. And before those threads get deleted? People probably call you an asshole.

There are definite rules and borders between boards and each board is its own contained culture.

Do you know what multiculturalism is? /b/.
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>>84056157
Not relevant to me, only noticed your complaint about road repair.
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>>84055926
I'd actually say that Reddit is more "multicultured" than 4chan. Look at KotatuInAction vs GamerGhazi, or TheRedPill vs Shitredditsays, or TheDonald vs SandersForPresident.

Now look at this thread and any random thread on /pol/
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>>84055924
I think this whole monocultural v multicultural thing is a meme.
You're saying
>Renaissance
>Baroque
>Classical
>Early Romantic
As if any of these were done in isolation and not by by a dialectic process of different cultures inter-melding. In fact the very fluid nature of culture makes the term "monoculture" sound absurd and "Multiculture" redundant. Culture is just a meme, and memes are only the product of those who've copied the sources before it.
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>>84056179
the only time I mentioned /pol/ was when I pointed out it had a image describing a straw man which again, you have formulated an argument I never took.


Fuck'n bravo, dude.
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>>84051658
Damn this thread blew up more than I had anticipated.
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>>84056236
>you can't post /pol/ shit on /co/ or the thread will be deleted
>700 replies
so much for that theory
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>>84056209
So...
4chan?

>>84056236
Crossposters.
Are you saying you honestly only use one board anon?
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>>84056253

Done by organic processes in which culture gradually evolves over time.

Know what happens when multiculturalism is actually attempted? You get parallel societies.

You get Chinatown. You get Little Italy. Multiple cultures, when clashed together, will mix in some ways but people will still desire to remain separate and stay with what is familiar to them.
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>>84056267
How did you not expected it on the most tumblr place in the site, dear /pol/ack.
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>>84056284
There was a time before generals and the shit they brought here.
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>>84056052
>KEK KEK KEK MOMMY I SAID THAT WORD AGAIN DO I GET GOOD BOY POINTS YET TENDIES PLS XD XD XD!!!
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>>84056329
Triggered
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>>84056282
Mods are always asleep on the weekend
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>>84056227
There is when it favors retaking of land from the country you currently live in for a country of your heritage.
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>>84056356
They're in the drawthread.
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>>84056264
>you have formulated an argument I never took.

>>84054835
>This. We don't go into /pol/ to discuss whether Martin Mystery or Dylan Dog is better.
>We don't go into /pol/
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>>84054499
>If you're on the terrorist watch list you don't get to legally buy a fucking weapon
There is no due process involved with being put on that list, so what would you say if the government arbitrarily put every American citizen on that list?
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>>84056359
Got a source for that?
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>>84051658
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>>84056388
a lot of people arguing here don't visit /pol/.
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>>84056394
Hillary sure as fuck would.
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>>84056420

neither do i, look at that.

again, not everyone who disagrees with you is /pol/.
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>>84056227
Everything's wrong you're the judge presiding and it's an advocacy group for one of the defendants. It's a literal text book, as in actually used in the California Bar exam, example of conflict of interest. Since you've made this mistake several times now and don't seem to be able to understand your obvious mistake, it seems pointless to continue arguing. Either you see something to gain by pretending to be stupid or you're incapable of learning.
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>>84056420

Depends on which /pol/ we're talking about.
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>>84054835
>>why is yet another fucking recession in the space of a day better than sovreignty we already had?

Yes, because it was completely acceptable for Britain to be in an organization that enslaves them to the whims of foreign, unelected bureaucrats who they have to pay a regular tithe to in order to continue existing in said organization which threatens their culture, economy, and very existence as a sovereign nation.

Honestly, this is why everyone else hates you people.
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>>84056388
wow anon, maybe >>84055584 was my first post? You ever consider that out of 139 posters that one of them may have come along to point out how shit your arguments have been and had nothing to do with the posts before hand?
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>>84056452
Sorry, was actually backing you up there, got my wires crossed.
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>>84056307
It's more compartmentalized than that. We get Chinese food and Italian food. We get stores from different countries and brands from different nations, all spoonfed to us without any 'otherness' or notion that it's weird. Our education and government system has a firm basis sure, but that basis comes from different sources intermeshed (The US Tri-partisan goverment system takes part from the Roman Senate, the Greek Oligarchy, the Prussian State system and the British parliament. Nothing exists in isolation.
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>>84056343
>If I say enough buzzwords it makes me cool ^u^
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>>84056457
The SDLRLA isn't an advocacy group for Trump University, the defendant. What the hell are you smoking?
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Aren't most capecomics political, especially Captain America
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>>84056520
Triggered
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>>84056492
>We get Chinese food and Italian food

We don't really need to be multicultural for that. You can learn from other cultures without adopting other cultures. A black person can make Chinese food just as well as an Asian person.

>We get stores from different countries and brands from different nations

That is not multiculturalism. That is capitalistic free trade.

There is no multicultural benefit that cannot be reaped by a monocultural society.
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>>84056196
None of that fucking matters at all, for the simple reason that the Mexican government will pay for it and build it. Why are you worrying about the US having trouble with it like it matters?

One way or another, they're going to build and pay for that wall. The logistics don't matter at all in that vein, and for that reason alone.
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>>84056537
Most capecomics are also shit, fancy that.
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>>84056473
I'm not sure what exactly is this strip trying to convey, but I can't help to be annoyed by it.
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>>84056329
Does the word hurt you?
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>>84056492

Name a benefit to multiculturalism without mentioning food or music.
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>>84056487

point out what? call a strawman and act like a smug faggot about it?

define how is it a strawman to call out that i'm being used to shield people(us poor /co/mrades) while they slam me(/pol/tards at it again)
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>>84056567
Your lack of effort does.
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>>84055469
So what?
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>>84056188
Yeah yeah, fuck off. The Trump university shit has already been explained in this thread.
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>>84056200
>Trump
>ordinary republican
Have you been paying attention to the election at all?
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>>84051966
Resident Evil:Outbreak 2
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>>84056566

It's trying to convey that American Christian soldiers are morally and functionally identical to Islamic suicide bombers.
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>>84056480
Would you stop parroting what Farage told you for five minutes and face facts? We're going to be in the most avoidable recession in living memory, and the EU never had as much control as you want to believe.

I know why you believe it - things are shitty, you're scared as shit and you need somebody to blame. Basic human reaction, perfectly understandable. But what's not understandable is you acting like some Bizarro Chicken Little, going "SKY AM NOT FALLING!" while giant chunks of cloud slam into the gorund
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>>84056576
Television, movies.
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The guys who voted for Britain to leave but didn't mean it were morons and this should be a good lesson to them.
DON'T VOTE FOR THINGS IF YOU DON'T MEAN IT. YOU FFFFFUUUUUCKING MORON.

The kids who complain about the result but didn't vote should learn something from this too.
VOTE YOU DUMBSHITS.

All around the vote results are a win-win.
Dumb idiots got burned and people who actually wanted it, well, they got what they wanted.
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>>84056589
>point out what?
Do you read, anon? Remember >>84056047?

>define how is it a strawman to call out that i'm being used to shield people(us poor /co/mrades) while they slam me(/pol/tards at it again)

I'm not sure what you're saying here and I'm not sure why I would want to define it as a strawman. Please clarify.
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>>84056549
>We don't really need to be multicultural for that.
>States inherent traits of multicultural societies by definition is sharing cultures
>We don't need to be multicultured to have multi cultures!
Well sure, if you want to toggle rhetorical definitions like an imbecile and defeat your own position by the premise you take.
Multiculturalism is a vague organic description, it's not an aspect you self-recognize. If you're learning from other cultures and baking their food, you're Multicultural.

>That is not multiculturalism. That is capitalistic free trade.
Splitting hairs.
Late stage Capitalism is multicultural in it's praxis. That's why countries like China, Japan, France Belgium and even South Africa can all adopt them, despite having different cultures.

>There is no multicultural benefit that cannot be reaped by a monocultural society.
Speaking just from a capitalist standpoint, that's completely untrue. But I'm juxtaposing capitalism with "Globalism" a bit much here, I doubt when you refer to capitalism you think mom and pop stores with no free borders. Capitalism in today's age IS globalism, they're inseparable.
And the property of multiculturalism just comes with it. (Division of labor and resources across different cultures and borders, different methodologies, ect)
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>>84056525
So you're saying that the previous trials that Judge Gonzalo Curiel has not had a continual stream conflict of interest in the cases he's presided over the past 3 years? And how his previous actions would not cast doubt on the current case? Do you even understand what a "conflict of interest" is?

Wait, are you the guy who thinks the San Diego LA RAZA Legal Association has no ties with La Raza?
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>>84052236
Yeah now both parties are objectively shit
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>>84056226
Hmm, getting rid of a group of people that cost us billions of dollars and cause a bunch of other problems is pointless? I see... That must explain why Mexico build a wall on their southern border.
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>>84056645
Trumo is going to pay for the infrastructure fixes like any other Republican would, by cutting the budget from something Republicans don't care about.
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>>84056226
How is a wall not plausible?

It's a fucking wall made of steel rebar and concrete.

It's a physical barrier that fucking works by virtue of it competently defending the borders.

Isreal used to have annual illegal immigration above 9,500, but after they installed a border wall (that is immune to ordinance and not expensive at all), that number dropped to about 34 illegals a year.

Fuck, you act like a wall is on the level of Reagan's death ray from space idea.
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>>84056039
Rome fell when it became too big and ran out of easily conquered border states to loot.
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>>84056752
No, it fell after they lets the goths in the gates. There was plenty more to conquer.
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>>84056683

you know exactly what i meant, fuck off.
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>>84056576
I can have a Chinaman make my T-shirt in a factory with chinese techniques motivated based on his eastern values and have it shipped by a European manufacturing distribution all the way to a store owned by foreigners in the US. I can go to the store and look architecture designed by foreigners, enjoy air conditioning formulated by someone thousands of miles away, and enjoy fluorescent lights built by pieces mined in the heart of Africa and compiled in Afghanistan.

Than I can go watch a talent show based off a British talent show based off a format copied god knows else.

But you don't really consider T-shirts or Lightbulbs, or Americas Got Talent culture do you? Culture is a pretty relative thing. Otherwise we might as well start talking Pepe and Dank Memes.
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>>84056669
Well, if we had people who were actually informed about the issues had voted, Remain would've had a 100% win
>>84056730
This thread has already had somebody point out why a wall going through about 2k of land (including mountains, rivers and sacred Indian land) is completely fucking retarded.
>>84056780
>easily conquered border states
lrn 2 reading comprehension
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>>84056039
>Rome fell when it became multicultural.
No it fell when one of the cultures refused to play ball. It was multiculture long before that.
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>>84056789

Unless all of that happens within the same border it's not multiculturalism. Same thing happens with nationalistic free trade.
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>>84056196
Bernout detected. Mentally incapable of picturing actual work, the very idea that a concrete and asphalt structure built nearly 2000 miles long (note that the actual proposed construction is to fill the 350 miles where there is no wall yet) is so far fetched it might as well be dragon magic. Imagine showing a liberal the Hoover Dam or the Highway Interstate System, their mind would simply shut down from the implication that men were once able to build such wonders. No, they would outright recoil in fear.
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>>84056787
I honestly can not make any sense of that second part. You want me to define how you're being used as a shield (for who?) while they (who?) slam you (/pol/).

I can't tell how much of this is sarcasm or what the fuck.
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>>84056698
>That's why countries like China, Japan, France Belgium and even South Africa can all adopt them, despite having different cultures.
Where do you think you're going if put Japan and France under the same label?
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>>84056789
>I can have a Chinaman make my T-shirt in a factory with chinese techniques motivated based on his eastern values
Meanwhile your father lost his job and your family can't afford those cheaper products anyway.
>European manufacturing distribution
Why not an American one?
>I can go to the store and look architecture designed by foreigners
Not an argument. You have failed to state how this is better.
>enjoy air conditioning formulated by someone thousands of miles away
Also not an argument. See above.
>Than I can go watch a talent show based off a British talent show based off a format copied god knows else.
A copy of a copy of a copy is an advantage to you?

I'm stunned. You have nothing.
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>>84056730
2000 mile wall.
Enough steel and concrete for a wall 2000 5 meters high (10 if we count for underground tunneling).
Enough personal, maintenance, repairs, infrastructure and annual budgeting for a 2000 mile wall.
We don't even budget that much for 2000 miles of Road. Road is much easier to construct then a tall barrier meant to keep people out.
Tell me how is a 2000 mile wall feasible?
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>>84056712
Ahh, like from the money wasted on welfare for illegal immigrants? Ok then.
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>>84056796
>This thread has already had somebody point out why a wall going through about 2k of land (including mountains, rivers and sacred Indian land) is completely fucking retarded.
The natural barriers won't need the wall. We just need to put it where the unprotected areas are.
>indian land
lol. There's no indian land right smack-dab on the border between America and Mexico. That's why it's a fucking national border.
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>>84056031
>implying there aren't ethnic Japanese, Vietnamese, northerners, and Chinese living in Korea.

>implying there aren't ethnic Koreans, Vietnamese, and Chinese living in Japan.
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>>84056886
Sounds like jobs to me. It's the same reason the keystone pipeline is a good idea- long term growth.

Meanwhile we spend trillions to keep 100-year-old shitheads with incurable cancer alive on our dime and pay for Tyrone's 15 kids all by different women.
I think we'll be okay.
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>>84056730
It depends on what the Wall is.
We don't have any idea what it'll be like other than it'll have a big beautiful door for legals and it got ten feet higher.
Israel has a tinier border and from the looks of it a smaller illegal problem.
We don't know if Trump just plans to drop a wall or make moats and sensors and have a small army guarding it.
What the fuck does Trump really want to do?
>>84056796
To be fair the mountains might actually be beneficial. Some terrain could act as a natural barrier.
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>>84056886
>Tell me how is a 2000 mile wall feasible?
Apparently that will figure itself out once Trump successfully besieges Mexico City.
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>>84056858
If no arguments count then there is no argument.
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>>84056931
>100-year-old shitheads with incurable cancer alive on our dim
No John, you are the demons.
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>>84056936
>Israel has a tinier border and from the looks of it a smaller illegal problem.
Does the term "proportional size" mean anything to you?
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>>84056886
The same way China could build a wall thousands of years ago that was bigger and had more obstacles to construction.
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>>84056796
>Well, if we had people who were actually informed about the issues had voted, Remain would've had a 100% win
Ah yes the "informed people would vote my way" meme.
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>>84051658
Can't you see making political cartoon threads isn't making /pol/ any better?

You're just making /co/ worse.
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>>84056956
Mass slave labour?
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>>84056953
Okay, then you pay for them. I'll handle the wall, which is orders of magnitude less expensive than entitlements.
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>>84056936
It will be in part with Mexico, so expect corruption, inefficiency, ineptitude, delays, and corner cutting.
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>>84056702
>Do you even understand what a "conflict of interest" is?
Yeah, if the judge has a conflict of interest you file a motion for recusal to get another judge. Trump's lawyers have not done this or even announced that they plan to do this so clearly they don't think there is a conflict of interest.

>Wait, are you the guy who thinks the San Diego LA RAZA Legal Association has no ties with La Raza?
Not any more than I think the IRA is the militant Irish branch of the Republican Party
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>>84056858
I didn't say whether Globalist Capitalism it was inherently good or not. Just that those are some benefits.

>>84056813
You cannot win arguments by just mincing definitions. If Greeks use spice handed down along the Silk Road and exchange it for Papyrus in Egypt, that's multiculturalism. Multi meaning many, culture meaning cultural capital and ideologically laden possessions.

The culture in your life comes from many other sources, it's just become too ingrained for you to see it with all the packaging and duct tape. It's like saying unless different cake ingredients are tasted separately, the cake batter is just one mono-ingredient because it's a mix slurry. From this vantage the entire conception of monocultural in this age is obsolete.
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>>84056936
Israel also has a much smaller economy.
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>>84056796
>Well, if we had people who were actually informed about the issues had voted, Remain would've had a 100% win
This is why people hate you elitist sacks of garbage.
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>>84056981
Should I pay for you when you become a useless old fart too?
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>>84056905
Barely enough of those to have a cultural impact
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>>84057019
No, you won't be alive then. You'd be dancing at a gay club near a mosque because you love multiculturalism that much.
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>>84056974
>Imperial China
>mass slave labor
Kek
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>>84056969
yes but it strengthens the "they hate me cause I'm right" mentality. Who wants any other hobby when you can run from place to place showing off your insecurity for cheap comfort? It's objective superior to, lol, character arcs or whatever.
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>>84056796
>Remain would've had a 100% win
No, the vote would have gone whatever way it would have gone, and there'd be no pissants calling for a revote because they didn't know what was on the ballot.

There'd just be pissants calling for a revote because they thought the polls were fixed. The world in general is getting better at ignoring the latter.
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>>84056969
Ah so my plan is going smoothly.
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>>84056969
Embrace diversity
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>>84051658
You guys really like to talk political shit, huh?

New thread:

>>84056766
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>>84056974
We have more than enough unemployed people that would happily do it, even for minimum wage, which, according to most libtards, is less than necessary for survival.
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>>84057037
No, I'd probably be paying your pension because my contract work is still taxable, even if I am doing it from my vacation home.
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>>84056838
You're just trying to come up with desperate straws now. The Hoover Dam is one dam, 220 acres, or 726′ meters high. The Wall by comparison is 3,200,985 meters wide and atleast 10 meters high/low.
>Comparing a road to a big ass wall
Are you stupid anon? Even the ancients had roads.

Think a little and stop punching your dick to Trump for a second.
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>>84056969
I thought you liked multiculturalism

>>84057086
How would you have a vacation home? There are people who have made irresponsible decisions in their life and ignored all warnings trying to steer them on the right track who NEED more money.
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>>84057004
>If Greeks use spice handed down along the Silk Road and exchange it for Papyrus in Egypt, that's multiculturalism.

Not really. If those cultures remain separate but benefit from one another, that's nationalism.

If you try to mix them together, that's multiculturalism.
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>>84052844

I don't get it. What happens on April seventh?
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>>84056960
>>84057014
>>84057047
Every economist said we'd be in the shit if Leave won. Guess how much the £ dropped yesterday?
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>>84057117
>How would you have a vacation home?
I paid for it.

>There are people who have made irresponsible decisions in their life and ignored all warnings trying to steer them on the right track who NEED more money.

Like you?
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>>84057138
They haven't even left yet dipshit. This is just what happens every time there is change and uncertainty.
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>>84056956
By building it over hundreds of years and forcing others to do it? Are you suggesting we spend centuries of our infrastructure budget just to keep foreigners out? Give me one historical precedent where that has ever been a good idea and proven to work out in the long run.

And the Great Wall of China was 7.5 meters tall. Who even knows if that'll be high enough to keep Speedy Gonzales from toppling over it.
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>>84057138
Guess how much it bounced back up literally the day after?

Only people who fail to understand market volatility are worried.
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>>84056838
You don't have to be a libcuck to realize how ineffective and impractical the idea is.
The fact that you compare the Hoover Dam to a wall that's supposed to run from coast-to-coast, 10 meter high that would run through a myriad of terrain shows how little sense of scale you have. A wall that people would inevitable figure how to get past it in a few years.
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>>84056894
>The natural barriers won't need the wall. We just need to put it where the unprotected areas are.
What, so you're just going to let someone swim across a lake or climb through a forest to get across the border? If people row to Cuba they're not going to let a "Natural Barrier" stop them.
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>>84057138
>If you leave this sinking ship on the life raft, it's going to be quite chilly for you!

Not an argument.
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>>84057138
>Guess how much the £ dropped yesterday?
That's what happens when you drop big news. The market fluctuates. Don't be surprised if you see it jumping around for a while.
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>>84057197
Alright, alright, maybe using Bronze Age technology isn't the greatest to build a wall with.

Instead let's use the technology Mexico used to build a wall on THEIR southern border.
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>>84057225
We have the coastguard. It is far, far less likely for a Mexican illegal to cross the border by sea or river if the river is more than ankle deep.
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>>84054198
Slow down or stop the influx of new muslim immigrants until a effective means of vetting people for terrorist ties can be developed?
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>>84055926
Yet there is no need to import retards from failed cultures.
You may want the geniuses and artists, but do you really want goatfucker #8373 and cartel member #2984 or maybe genital mutilator #9961.
And I say this as a third worlder.
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>>84057192
>>84057199
>>84057247
It's still wiped out all the progress we've made since the last recession. Just saying "Ah, we'll be fine!" doesn't change facts, you tards
>>84057235
The ship is sinking because you cunts made a big hole in the bottom
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>>84054324
>Is this that "the government wants to take our guns away" style bullshit
Gun control has never been about anything less than eroding the second ammendment.
>when government just wants to limit who gets a weapon designed for efficient killing in the first place?
So we are in agreement then the government is repeatedly proposing unconstitutional restrictions of the rights of law abiding citizens.
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>>84057288
That's right, the same way "we are fucked" doesn't change the fact that it hasn't even taken effect yet.
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>>84057125
You're just splitting hairs between 'benefit' and separate. If Chinaman builds me a Chinese-influenced Palace, that's a part of his culture he handed to me. If he handed me the blue-prints, the same applies. If Chinamen work on it, it's less so but the benefit and 'seperation' is blurred.

If a culture is just 'using' others food, clothes, entertainment, labor, literature, architecture, and cultural capital that's as sure 'Mixing' as it gets. Cake batter, cannot separate it.
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>>84057138
There are plenty of people who knew full well times were going to get rough and uncertain, but it would be worth it for getting the country's autonomy back.
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>>84057288
It's been 48 hours since the vote was tallied
Can I borrow that crystal ball you have?
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>>84057288
The ship is sinking because Mama Merkel drove it right into an iceberg.
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>>84057288
>The ship is sinking because you cunts made a big hole in the bottom
The EU was already on its way down. Brexit just hurried it along.

Also your scaremongering is really pathetic. I had no idea we had a professional economist in this thread!
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>>84057255
The Mexican southern border is not only much smaller than the northern one, but it doesn't fucking work, since central american immigrants are an actual problem big enough to creep all the way here.
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>>84054377
Except there has been no call by Trump or anyone to deport muslims that already live here legally.
The call is for a temporary restriction of new immigrants from areas which are terrorist hotspots.
American muslims are still free to practice their religion.
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>>84057255
So you're basically asking to build one as shitty as possible? I'm pretty sure the border security we have now is better than that.

>>84057266
>People are only the essence of retarded categories I make in my head that's why only good boy dindu nuffins like me should contribute to culture

What a bleak way to paint others. Of course all rhetoric makes sense if you paint the world in stereotypes and caricatures.
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>>84057288

>"SHUT UP, THE FLOODING ON THE MAIN DECK IS A FEATURE! GET AWAY FROM THE LIFE RAFTS!"
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>>84057403
Mexico is much poorer than America, and it's law enforcement and government in general is corrupt as fuck.

If they could build a wall at all, than we can build a better one.

Also
>doesn't understand porportion
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>>84057426
>What a bleak way to paint others. You should embrace tolerance and acceptance like those Muslims.
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