Who here misses shading in cartoons?

>>84024142
Fuck shading, gimme my Steven Universe

Get with the times, gramps.

>>84024156
Ironically a lot of rebecca sugar's own storyboards often make use of shading

>>84024142
What does shading even add. It's stupid as shit an expensive. There's a reason why good shows don't do it.

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>>84024194
Sure they do.

>>84024195
Yeah, it's stupid and hard. Let's half-ass everything instead. More shekels for the studio's pockets and the little stupid shitheads will eat it up anyway

>>84024142
But invader zim had tons of shading.
I mean, absurdly amounts of shading.
That was the artists' style.

>>84024142
Why not have shading on the characters? They look pretty jarring next to that thing above them.

>>84024195
I feel like it's necessary in darker cartoons though. Then again, dark cartoons don't really exist anymore.

>>84024322
Exactly! This guy gets it. Why bother with that sort of shit when it doesn't add emotional depth or style! You really think the dark sahodwy noir look of Batman the Animated Series had anything to do with that!? HA!

>>84024420
Dude, you're so stuck in the goddamn 80's. Dark cartoons are just offensive, mindless violence, like Batman the animated series. I mean, come on! A show about much simpler things was is necessary.


I-is this how I bait, guys? I-it's my first time, ya know, and I'm just so nervous....

>>84024195
It increases realism and visual quality, but it's less useful and important in cartoons.

>>84024325
OP's image was an example of shading, not the absence of it.

>>84024495
Tell that to good shows like Adventure Time

>>84024274
They do. You can literally look them up and verify this as a fact right now.

>>84024142
I think a lot of recent cartoons use shading for dramatic scenes or ones with unusual lighting, even if it's not a constant feature.

I know Gravity Falls, Star Vs., and Steven Universe have done it at times.

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>>84024195

>>84024525
What about Adventure Time?

It works in the right art style but even back then it was pretty rare. Not to say I don't appreciate it, but it will always have to remain something that just comes up in specific scenes unless the art style centers around it like Invader Zim for a darker look or all those DC shows to compliment their more human proportions and detailed character models.

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Gumball actually does a lot of work on shading since season 2 onwards as part of their attempt to blend the characters with the environment. Say what you will about season 2 not being as crazy with animation, but none of the characters looked like they were ever a part of their environment until season 2 really started focusing on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZOcMCLyF3o

>>84024706
There's an enormous difference in style and detail between the backgrounds and characters. It's probably the worst example of trying to blend the backgrounds and characters together that you could bring up.

>>84024792
>There's an enormous difference in style and detail between the backgrounds and characters

somehow I think that's the point

>>84024792
He meant from a lighting perspective. There's a large, glowing aisle behind them, so that's lighting up their backs and there is more shading on their front. That way it feels like they're actually there, even if the styles don't purposely mesh.

>>84024818
And that's fine, assuming your goal isn't to make them blend together.

>>84024829
Using reflections and some shading helps marginally, but it's still a lost cause. The cartoon perspective doesn't help either.

>>84024792
Well yes, intentionally they are all made to look like mismatched art styles, but back in season 1 they looked mismatched to the point of just looking like clip art posted over a photo too often. Shading them all to their environment for every scene came later and helped a lot, along with a buncha other little effects like the reflections shadows, and them getting better putting more cartoon elements into the environment.

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>>84024195
You need to be 18+ to post here.

Without shading, everything looks fucking FLAT. I wouldn't expect a millenial to understand that.

>>84024916
I looked at some clips on YouTube, and there either is no shading or the shading is really basic. And even with things like reflections and shadows they just don't look like they are really there. It looks like someone shot a photo or video and then drew in the characters.

I think even Space Patrol Luluco's ending makes it look more convincing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4adizbMg5A

Probably because it's not so flat.

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>shading is just low opacity flat black shading
>not second color layer that works with the color tone, sometimes a different contrasting color for effect

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>>84024195
>What does shading even add

>>84025054
>Had to look up clips of gumball
>Had this random anime outro which is completely different to compare it to

I knew from your posts that you were a faggot, but holy crap the rabbit hole goes deep on this one.

>>84024921
Protip: 18 year olds are millennials

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>>84024142
What shitty times that one of the most basic techniques in animation, no, one of the most basic techniques in drawing is gone.

And there are people here that are okay with this.

>>84025285
>Had to look up clips of gumball
So?

>Had this random anime outro which is completely different to compare it to
It has the same idea.

>I knew from your posts that you were a faggot, but holy crap the rabbit hole goes deep on this one.
What are you talking about?

>>84025322
The characters in Gumball aren't supposed to be flat cutouts like Luluco's outro

>>84025341
They almost are, due to the perspective.

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I can't hear you over my quality cartoon

fuck the last episode is coming this monday I hate my life

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>>84024274
>being a huge faggot

>>84025151
this. Do you know what you people are talking about?

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>>84024195
If you were on /m/ period or /a/ during certain times of the day you would of just been hung

>>84025790
>concept art / doodles for her blog is a storyboard