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Here's Dective comics #935
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Tim's harem, I'm all in
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It was shit.
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With the trend in seeing Gentry works in this run so far, it's interesting to see this scene with the hellish cityscape backdrop reminiscent of Hellmachine.

Plus in the last panel we see the classic eyes looking directly at the reader.
>There are too many...
Almost as if she looks and sees thousands of readers.
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Non-Batman fan here. How has this book been since Rebirth?
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And now right after Hellmachine we see a horde reminiscent of Demogorgun with many Jokers instead of many Silvanas.
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>>83976856
meh.
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Did 4chan die?
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>>83976856
Posters on CBR seemed to like it.
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Here again we have Batwoman giving no mercy or going easy, reflecting back on a Dame Merciless Gentry.
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This comic actually made me like Nu52 Tim a tiny bit. He seemed... coherent.
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>>83976872
It was never alive to begin with
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Kung Fu Master Clayface sounds OP.
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>>83976872
I'm dying to read more, Storytimer.
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>>83976901

This isn't the Batcave.
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And here the giant tower and window paneling reflect at Lord Broken.

Also Bat in the Belfry reference.
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>>83976907
Damian is out and is 13..
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>>83976844
This.
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>>83976934
Clayface only wants to act again ;-;
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>>83976934
My Clayface cant be this cute
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>>83976861
And some people thought 3 Jokers are too much.
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>>83976934
Damian?
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>>83976965
Forgot to mention the singular eye with Batman reflected in it mirrors Intellectron's floating single bat eye.
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>>83976791
Who Is batman fighting? They look like Arkham knights
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Hey they got together.
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>>83976980
You're reading too much into this
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>>83976992
URG..no
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>>83976992
>Harper
I actually screamed out loud upon reading that. I may have autism.
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>>83976933
Most likely this means that he has 12 years of experience
Also we have to see where he is, since he may have left Gotham to go being a Teen Titan in New York
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>>83976992
Hey spoiler that Spoiler.
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>>83976981
OC villains, looks like.
>>83977018
You aren't the only one, senpai. Literally ruined reading experience.
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>>83977018
It's is the pain brother.
The pain of poor characters, you will feel it forever.
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>>83977018

Meh, Harper's okay.
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>>83977041
She is back.
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>>83977044
>yelling brakes now
>not faster than slamming the brakes
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>>83977059
>second Batmobile this week
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>>83977018
stop hating on poor Harper
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>>83977007
>words words words
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And that's the end of the story.
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>>83977018
>>83977036
>>83977041

Oh, shut up. Goddamn people on this site whine about pointless shit too much.

It's times like this I remember why 4chan is so hated, making big deals out of nothing.
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>>83977076
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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They put some Dick in the back.
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>>83977086
Harper is cancer.
>>83977086
>It's times like this I remember why 4chan is so hated, making big deals out of nothing.
Crybaby.
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Final page. There's a thread up for this for any interested.
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>>83977007
>hurr durr Batwoman you are the best! they should all kiss the ground where you walk

cringe
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>>83977086
You're free to leave.
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>>83977103
>Crybaby.
Whine Drinker
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>>83977079
shit.
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4chan is cool Harper is cancer.
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This issue was great, IMO. Enjoyed the characterization, overall.

To anyone just joining us: Damifag and Snyderfag tend to shit up Bat-family threads. This isn't the majority opinion, if you weren't already aware.
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>>83977131
>4chan is cool
Now I know you're shitposting.
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>>83977137
http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?79794-Detective-Comics-935-discussion-(spoilers!)
Hy Caivu
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>>83977137
>Snyderfag
literally who
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>>83977079
>coming in the next issue!
>batman beats off 50 men!
>and also batwoman is there!
>trying with all her might to not makeout with her young wards
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They literally only mentioned Harper in passing and you guys are acting triggered

Bunch of crybabies
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Harper Row is the worst character in the DC universe, then he was one of the best/most likable. It’s like having your favourite TV show replaced in it’s weekly slot by a sport you don’t like, you might ordinarily have ambivalent feelings to say Rugby, but when you’re all settled down to find out what happens next in “the Shield” you go to turn it on and you find rugby has taken it’s place, that ambivalent mild dislike quickly mutate into an active hatred.
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>>83977109
No, your never free of this place.
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>>83977184
they are scared because they know that Harper has more potential than "I AM AUTISTIC SUPER MEGA MARTIAL FIGHTER!" or "LE QUIRKY GIRL BEING SUPERHERO!!!" (Steph, not Babs).
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>>83977137
Ha, Harper was mentioned in one panel, this thread is now the "we hate harper for doing things" thread
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>>83977184
Calm down, anon. It was one guy who admitted to screaming out loud and saying he probably ahs autism. Then two other guys comforting him and a bunch of others defending Harper or complaining about it.
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he was just incredibly meh and taking up space from other charcters at first. That wasn't so bad, but then B&R Eternal happened. It was advertised as the 75th anniversary of Robin but ended up focusing on Harper Row instead. The only person other than Harper to actually get a somewhat meaningful story from it was Cassandra Cain, and that too because it tied directly to Harper's story. That wouldn't have been awful just as it is but she wasn't written as a very compelling character. She was constantly praised and presented as something great without it ever feeling earned or shown. Heck, she was even declared the perfect candidate, better than everyone else, for Robin. Combine all this with her pushing aside the spotlight from established characters with existing fanbases, it creates resentment.
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>>83977219
Yeah, that was bad.
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>>83977030
>You almost ate three bites
This is a thing that has always annoyed me a bit about Batman
He basically never sleeps, eats once every three days yet he's the peak of human condition.
Nothing that stop me from enjoying the story, but I've always found it rather cringy
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Detective Comics 935 (2016) (Webrip) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP)
http://www7.zippyshare.com/v/FvdmFqVn/file.html
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>>83977186

I like Harper Row. But I can see where somebody might not like her, because of her "alt girl" quota filling and that she was basically a substitute for Cass and Steph until they could use them, or something.

Honestly, everyone's made her out to be this big comics-ruining mistake, but she was barely even utilized outside of the weekly series. I bet by the year's end, Steph and Cass will already have been in more comics in this continuity than she in her entire existence.
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>>83976992
Who asked for this.

Seriously who the fucks keeps asking for this.
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>>83977253
Weren't Tim and Steph together pre-52?

Isn't this more Aquaman/Mera, GreenArrow/Canary Rebirth returning love?
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>>83977253
Yeah Steph/Tim is the worst
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>>83977219
What the fuck. Stop cpying and pasting shit
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>>83976907
I am in this only for Clayface.
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>>83977253
It wasn't the team romance I wanted. I wanted Clayface to fuck Cass.
>>83977289
Most of us are. Clayface doesn't get enough love.
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>>83977219
>>83977236

That is a really stupid reason to hate a character, sounds like people were pissed because they wanted to masturbate to the nostalgia but new guy mad it hard, or limp in this case.
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>>83977186
Danny Chase is the worst character in the DC universe, actually.
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>>83977301
>characterfags not hating everyone who they think is obstacle to their favorite
Only X-fags are more autistic.
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>>83977298

I actually always hated Clayface, his episodes in BtAS, where i first saw him. were always the worst, in my opinion.
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>>83977150
>>83976876

Well, I told you CBR liked it.
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>>83977268
When he was a supporting character in his book. But they broke up like 2002 or something and it allowed them to grows and individual characters. So they were split up for a good 9-10 years. Then fucking Convergence happened.

They just don't work any more. They were good teenage romance but they're story really shows how people can change and grow apart as you grow up. Like, I can already SEE the inevitable break up. Why dirty these two who will be forced to interact for years to come with baggage stories that have already been told?

They were a good "you're not who you used to be at 14". I honestly do not feel like reading a shitty rehashed storyline.
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>>83977301
>she was constantly praised and presented as something great without it ever feeling earned or shown. Heck, she was even declared the perfect candidate, better than everyone else, for Robin.
That post is in response to why people don't like Harper. And this is they key point. All things considered, it's a perfectly valid reason for not liking a character.
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>>83976849
Second panel is a hell of a reaction image.
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It was an ok issue, don't know why everyone is so triggered.

The pace is better than in other Rebirth titles and I really like Clayface so far.
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>>83977371
Out of context, no one will know that's Clayface, not know why the city is in ruins and wonder what's up with the grasshoppers.

.....What's up with the grasshoppers?
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>>83977219
>>83977365
you mean she got the same treatment that literally any new character gets when introduced?

but I guess it was fine when it happened to Tim, Damian, Cass etc.
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>>83977388
You're arguing with copypasta anon. Just leave it.
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>>83976907
why is Batwoman colored differently then everything else.... its really strange
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>>83977388
But, that's not the treatment they got.
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really liked it.
>haprer literally mentioned once in passing
>entire thread is derailed by triggered faggots
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>>83977398
She's Gentry (Dame Merciless) and doesn't belong in the universe.
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>>83976992
oh neat, did they get together during Batman and Robin Eternal?
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>>83977398
Good question. She had normal skin in 52, why is she bleached now?
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>>83976992
What's written on Steph shirt?
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>>83977410
Nah.
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>>83976992
Is wearing underwear under your pyjamas common in America or just a Tim thing?
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I am just waiting for the Bruce, Kate romance to be honest
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>>83977417
Membrane, unless I'm wrong.
What's name of Constantine's band?
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>>83976992
>OTP is back
Feels good man
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>>83977417
She is wearing a Mucus Membrane shirt. Other issues you see she has their poster.
She's also reading a Superman comic book.
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>>83977443
>>83977450
Thanks, Googled it and was Constantine's punk band.
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>Detective Comics never got an issue #900
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>>83976998
if the Gentry do come back, then I think this single eye thing on Azrael is the perfect amount of reading into it
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>>83977546
Tynion won't be bringing them back.
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>>83977580
Then it looks like we'll have to bring them back for him.
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>>83977498
Detective Comics #19.
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>>83977607
Why would you do this
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>>83977209
I like all three

More for Tim
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>>83977352
Where was Superboy in all this>>83977352
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>>83977329
I woke up barely 30 minutes ago, and already I've seen the worst opinion of the day.
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>>83976934

Clayface never had a reason to be evil outside of wanting to be cured so I'm okay with him helping so he can be an actor again.
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>>83976955

I see Leslie is still against Batman's kid sidekicks.
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>>83977839
Tell that to actors he killed.
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>>83976992
Holy shit, I think this is the first time I've seen Nu52 Tim smile.
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>>83977067
>50
>not 52

Morrison is not pleased.
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>>83976791

I like it. It gives a chance to flesh out Batman's family. Even if he's in it for a bit, it's obvious the others are there to get character growth.
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>>83977885
Well Batman's there too. And the guy speaking makes 52.
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>>83977007
Well shit, now Daddy Kane knows Bruce's identity too? Why does Bruce even need a secret identity at this point?
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>>83977911
They're Kanes, not Lois Lane.
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>>83977905
Fifty of us, not fifty more of us. With Batman that's 51.
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>>83977934
Oh um, does the lord is with him count?
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>>83976992
würrrrrrrrrrrrrg................
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>>83977934
Whoever bails Batman out might make 52.
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Cancer is back.
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>>83977248
>she was barely even utilized outside of the weekly series
That series is what made her so unlikable. I'm not even talking about it supposedly being a Robin anniversary special. They tried to push her so hard that they made the whole story about how special she was, yet failing to actually make her special in any way.
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>>83978017
> she is special Cancer .
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>>83977993
I don't dislike it, I dont want to read it, because I dislike the charterer!
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>>83978017
oh you mean just like Damian until good writers started writing him like Tomasi?
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>>83976965
How much time passed after B&RE? Did Azrael have enough time to grow a mane like that?
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>>83978017
Oh yeah, I pretty much hate her.I just think her character is boring in comparison to the other Batfamily members.
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>>83978079
Nah, Damian actually had a backstory that made him special.
Harper was literally just another orphan for Mother to train, and yet she risked her whole Empire to try to enlist her, even though at that time she had Cain and Cassandra. Harper was somehow more important than them and yet nothing about her was special.
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>>83978017
>supposedly being a Robin anniversary special
Could have had a book about the Robin's fighting together as brothers, end up with Row weekly, Damian appears 2 issues before the end.
>It still hurts.
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>>83976980
Aww Bruce went full Batdad.
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More Gentrification in the following weeks!
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>>83976907
I've been out of the loop. Since when did Clayface become a good guy?
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Worst...Character...Ever.
Harper Row.

Worst…Character…Ever.
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>>83978199
Batcunt.
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>>83978587
since batman gave him a chance in the previous issue
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>>83978587
One issue ago.
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>>83978615
forgot to say that it kinda first showed in the Batwoman run, but no one cares
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>>83978096
She’s annoying, everything in her life is awful, and Batman doesn’t need her.
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>>83978626
On paper Batwoman, Ragman and Clayface should be something I care about, but in reality I don't care about that comic.
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>>83978632
>in reality I don't care about that comic.
Ditto.
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>>83977105
You totally missed the fucking point.
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>>83978615
>>83978616
>I had the idea a long time ago of the majority of Batman's rogues gallery becoming good guys in some way or another; actually working on it still
>I'LL STEAL IT! NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!
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>>83976907
>worked pretty good so far
heh
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>>83976926
neat
now that it has been brought up the batcave is in a pretty shitty location
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>>83976934
awwww
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>>83976998
im pretty sure hes joking around
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>>83978614
Triggered much?
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>>83978787
Imagine if Batman didn't have Batvehicles. He'd spend half of night jogging to Gotham.
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>>83976992
interesting character potential with this stuff scholarship stuff
dont really know the characters well enough to comment on the pairing
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>>83978828
>Batcunt.
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>>83977007
i like that nothing line
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>>83977044
surely there must have been a better way of showing he was hiting the brakes the having his fucking computer do it
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>>83977079
whats with the white circles in the background
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>>83978912
Front lights from the Arkham Knight militia vehicles.
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>>83977443
>>83977450
i wonder if we will get a constintine comments on stephs shirt panel

im not sure why they would be meeting up especialy with her out of costume but still
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>>83977498
it retroactively did
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>>83978947
Better yet, Steph to appear in Constantine's Greatest Fan arc.
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>>83977934
they lied theres 51 of them they said there was 50 to throw batman off
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>>83978947
I just hope Constantine doesn't praise Black Canary's band.
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>>83978840
would keep him fit at least
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>>83978929
ah
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>>83976992
>Tim and Steph pairing

I...I...don't know how to feel about this...

Isn't Tim a little old for her?
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>>83978997
MY LITTLE PONY: FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC
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>>83978997
It's [current year], senpai.
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>>83976992
You know, I'm ok with this. Assuming personalities haven't changed much with rebirth this could actually be a good pairing and lead to some good stories.

Looks like they aged up Stephanie a bit.
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>>83978997
He's only 16 according to Eternal, though he's talking about college scholarships so 17 now?
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>>83979048
Tynion's favorites are Tim and Steph, right? He shouldn't fuck it up that much.
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>>83979002
wait what is there a reference im missing here did i miss an issue of one of the comics
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>>83976992
>Red Robin and Spoiler relationship
>Former Robin and former Batgirl

The Robin/Batgirl ship never truly sinks does it?
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>>83979054
Post rebirth he is 18
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>>83979138
True, the Robin & Batgirl thing is practically written into the cosmos at this point.

I'm actually surprised this didn't come up pre Nu-52. Tim/Steph could indeed be an interesting romantic couple.
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>>83976907

Dick and Damian are not in team loser.
that means they do not need protection and training ?
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>>83979206
Weren't they couple for some time in previous continuity?
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>>83979275
If they were it wasn't for very long before the nu-52 happened.

I didn't read the bat books during that time period. Anyone clarify?
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>>83979206
>Nu-52. Tim/Steph
Taylor Swift And Justin Bieber of DC.
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>>83976992
Ugh

As i feared, cass is going to be the third wheel of shitty timsteph
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>>83979291
Yeah, they were. Tim's solo. Dixon wrote it, Steph is his creation, you know how it goes.
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The People of the Book are all the same.
And all that romantic shit.
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>>83977352
>They just don't work any more. They were good teenage romance but they're story really shows how people can change and grow apart as you grow up..
They're still teenagers, you dumb cuck.
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>>83979365
He is 18 you dumb cuck.
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>>83977253
Seriously. I would rather Steph date Damian than have to go through TimSteph drama again
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>>83976992
>Timposter having sex again
All right, I'm out.
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>>83979291
If you don't know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up and lurk more.
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>>83979420
DC must have got tired of all the gay and permavirgin jokes.
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>>83979389
>eighteen
>eight
>teen
You dumb cuck.
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>>83979438
It would be funny just to see sjw cry about the age difference
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>>83979389
Actually he was said to be 16 on page just a few months ago.
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>>83979449
jon is his boyfriend...and his dad gets a heart attack because he hates Superman..
I would buy the comic.
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>>83979449
Dami is 13 she is 16 that's too old..
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>>83979481
Why would Jack hate Superman?
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>Tim not being a virgin

Fuck this shit!
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>>83979510
Batman hate new Superman.
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>>83976992
Based Tynion.
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>>83979520
>Tim not being a virgin
>Fuck this shit!
my dami is now the only virgin in the family..
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Can anyone tell me why Clayface is a hero now? I read last issue, where Bruce and Kate say "Hey Clayface wanna be a hero?" and then he goes and is now a hero. Is that really it?
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>>83979560
Last issues of Batwoman has heroic Clayface.
>I don't have to look at your boobs, I'll just make pair on myself
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>>83979560
tbqh they should try that with more bad guys, it could work
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>>83979505
Thats not that bad, more or less the difference between aang and katara in atla

Pre reboot she was 8 years older

At least it would be more interesting than timsteph, for the hilarity alone
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>>83979273
Taht means they're already good enough. Also we don't know exactly what the deal is with Damian (i.e. his relationship with the batfamily) in the post-rebirth universe yet.
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>>83977079
Thank you anon.
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>>83979974
>Taht means they're already good enough
they' are batman and robin already good enough.
they are team cool Dami and Dick ,Jason ,Babara.and Damis pets.they need their own book..
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This book is some crazy fan-servive.
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>>83976856
Really fun! It's very 90s - so Tim all angsty, Batman all emotionally constipated, Steph all bouncy, Cass all silent, etc, etc.
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>>83976992
Woohoo!
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>>83977048
Ya. Not the best, but not the worst. I'm actually kinda glad she's taking other options, though. Gives time to Steph, Cass, and Tim.
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>>83980435
Not necessarily a bad thing, Tynion loves 90s DC, so they put him on the right book.
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>>83980435
This.

It feels like it's right out of the late 90s/early 00's.

I haven't been this happy with a Batbook in a decade.
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>>83977219
I disagree - Tim, Jason, and Dick all got pretty solid storylines. They were wrapped up mostly before the final issue, which was focused on Harper and Cass, but I really liked their issues - and Damian got the really cool flashback with Bruce.
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>>83977242
That was a problem in Eternal, where they explicitly called out that Batman had walked away from three plane crashes...
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Wait, isn't Steph supposed to be 13 and Tim 19/20?

That's creepy as fuck territory.
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>>83976992
they... basically retconned B&RE out of continuity, aligning Tim, Steph and Cass to their pre-52 incarnations and relationships?

I can get behind that.
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>>83980641
Nope.
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>>83977248
Not quite - Harper had 24 issues of Eternal and 23 issues of BR Eternal, so it'll be a bit before even double shipping Cass and Steph can catch up.
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>>83977253
I DID (RAISES HAND REALLY HIGH).

I didn't expect to get it so soon or so...smexily... ;)
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>>83980619
They've de-aged Tim and aged up Steph a bit. They are in the same age range now.
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BR Eternal, Damian is just in 3 books.
this makes me angry..
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>>83980743
I find it disgusting bähhh.old people sex.
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>issue called Rebirth
>have to have read 90 comics before it to understand what is even going on or who is doing what

This whole thing is not going to get them any new readers
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>>83980779
>Damian is just in 3 books
That's more than anyone except Batman and Superman.

Shit now I'm angry, but for the opposite reason.
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>>83976977

If you're referring to the ex-assassin, I have a feeling Bruce & Co. wouldn't be willing to just let him go to Gotham General.
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>>83976926
Wait, so they have a giant window in their super secret base in the middle of Gotham?
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>>83977410
It wasn't really in that series - they flirted in the final issue of Eternal, but not much in BRE.
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>>83980905
BRE was busy showing us lesbians.
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>>83980846
>>Damian is just in 3 books
he is not with his father and Damian is 13.
supersons is has no writer..
damian is book only in the first Dick book.
this makes me angry....
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>>83976955
>Leslie is young now
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>>83980641
Are you seriously saying that as a reply to the page that references Cassandra's relationship with Harper that ccame from B&RE?
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>>83980846
>>Damian is just in 3 books
Batman is in 10.
Superman in 7.
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>>83980809
>Damifag confirmed for literal child
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>>83980953
He has Teen Titans to himself.
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>>83979138
So that begs the question, who will get paired with Cass: Dick, Jason, Damian, or Duke?
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>>83980953
>he is not with his father and Damian is 13
Damian has literally never needed his father for anything but bringing him back from the dead.
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>>83981132
> I hate the Teen Titans..that does not make me happy..
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>>83981141
Jason or Duke.
Damian had a crush on Katana though, I think, so he might like Cass.
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>>83977105
>Kate's fucking dad gives her words of encouragement

Oh no!
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>>83981193
Too bad.
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>>83981176
It's Damifag, I'm pretty sure they think comics are real, and that Bruce literally dumped a helpless 13 year old out of the car in a seedy part of the city and told him not to come back.
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>>83977018
I hate Harper too, but freaking out whenever someone even mentions her is pretty autistic.
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>>83981132
>to himself
There are 5 others in that book. I just want to know what's up with him and Batman.
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>>83981234
Eddie B free.
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>>83981176
that's true ..but I am still sad..he robin without batman..
Dami is more a lone crimefighter 'as batman now ..
He's all alone..
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>>83981203
Duke, Jason will inevitably be getting pegged by Artemis
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>>83977079
This is continuing to pleasantly surprise. I hope Tynion can keep it up.
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>>83981261
Damian got mad that Bruce forgot about him and left to have adventures leaving his amnesiac father all by himself
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>>83981261
It's his team, obviously the spotlight will be on him.
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>>83977846
That was such a nice moment!
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>>83981296
Artemis is cool ..i like her.
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>>83981306
that's a lie.
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>>83981290
>He's all alone
He has Dick, Jon and his own team.
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>>83981306
Bruce has replaced him with Duke ...you cunt.
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>>83981203
Damian getting a crush on Cass would be perfect. It's criminal that we never really got to see much interaction between them Pre-nu52
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>>83978083
It seems like at least a few months have passed since BRE - which makes sense, given what happened in Grayson post-BRE.
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>>83981371
>He has Dick, Jon and his own team.
I wonder if Dick now is damis dad again .
where is is his home. With dick or bruce.
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>>83981423
pls Scott Snyder we hate you on 4chan.
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>>83978997
Steph was 17 in Eternal, and Tim was 16 in BR Eternal. So it's her who is Robin the cradle. ;)
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Bruce is under no obligation to take care of his rape baby
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I kind of hate it .It was shit.
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>>83979048
Steph has always been a bit older than Tim, I believe. In the last year before Flashpoint, she was 19, in college, while he was 17-18, still in high school (Red Robin).
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>>83981533
Tim Drake.
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>>83979539
AMEN!
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>>83981533
Batman Is Actually A Total Pussy –
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>>83980435
This fan is SERVICED!!! :)
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Cunt - Blatantly Obvious Tynion Batman:D
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>call Harper cancer
>when this thread is more cancerous than her

/co/ in a nutshell
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>>83980809
Haha. Nice one. Old people sex is so disgusting. Smexily, smexily disgusting.
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>>83980981
No. I'm just delusional.
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>>83981458
He's bunking with the Titans, they have a base of operations and all.
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>>83981638
Tynion pls.
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I wonder if Tynion here and is mad ?
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>>83981638
>>83981663
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>>83981701
>>83981728
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>>83976992
Based. Fuck you people that don't want this. Tim's pounding that blonde pussy.
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>all Batman threads will forever be ruined due to Dami fag
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Dami is a lone crimefighter NOW THAT IS COOL. and he is only 13.
he is more than batman as batman 52 .
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>>83981863
Tim should be asexual with homoerotic subtext.
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>>83981872
>>all Batman threads will forever be ruined due to Dami fag
I AM THE COOLEST PERSON HERE :)
Dami fag that cute and sounds good !!
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>>83981908
Tim should be dead
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>>83976861
I couldn't resist.
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>>83976907
It does, and I like Clayface seemingly being the heir to being given heart like Croc recieved in multiple forms for awhile.
It does however seem like the kind of thing we're going to bitch about when someone else comes along and just writes him as generic baddie who only knows how to smother things again.
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>>83976810
Nice
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>>83977044
>>83977067
> Batman in ATTACK OF THE ARKHAM KNIGHTS AND THEIR NOLANMOBILES!
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>>83977092
Batman-lite is back, you mean.
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>>83976907

clayface will be scary if he learns to train properly
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>>83977079
Why the arkham knight looking suits ?
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>>83982875
>NOLANMOBILES
Those are literally the Arkham Knight batmobiles,i want to know what the fuck is going on now, will Tynion create a better arkham knight them rocksteady ?
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>Tim having sex
Kill this impostor
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>>83983346
>a better arkham knight them rocksteady ?
Tomasi already did that.
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A Tim Steph Cass love triangle could work, I just want Batkikelesbian and Harper DEAD.
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>>83983168
Yeah I don't know why this isn't seen as extremely dangerous. If King were writing this I would expect a Taliban/mujahedeen parallel.
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This has been a good couple of issues. Why does /co/ hate Tynion again?
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>>83984178
>muh Cass
>B&R Eternal Issue 13 ruined my life
>why is Batwoman giving orders to more skilled people
>WHERE'S DAMIAN

the usual things
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>>83976992
> Cass gives a thumbs up to Steph.
> doesn't get upset or show emotion to the hormonal pair.

Already Tynion understands the three characters better than that freaking writer on Convergence Batgirl. Ugh what a pathetic waste that mini was.

Anyway, I kind of wish Tynion set up the how the two got together than just randomly have them back again. He is a big fan of the two given the final issue of Batman Eternal.

Also cute that he's picked up Cass's little habits like staying around her friends pads and messing it up.

Threesome with TIm/Steph when? Ugh.. dammit.
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>>83984600
Someone post howconvergencebatgirlshouldended. Please.
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https://youtu.be/enYYYVPCjL4
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>>83976934
>Bottom right picture of Tim

Is Barrows using Charcoal on some of these. Looks like a charcoal drawing.
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>>83976907
Kate talks a lot of shit despite not being in the Danger Room. As if she wasn't the newest character in the team.
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>>83977007
Oh, hey, he knows Batman's identity now and doesn't agree with Batman's current strategy against crime? Wonder if he could be leading the bad guy army?
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>>83985987
maybe that's why Batman said he can't tell the secret to Batwoman until he knows more about it
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>>83976955
I'm so happy that jean-paul has returned as Azrael.
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>>83984600
Maybe this was scheduled to be a Cass/Steph or Cass/Steph/Tim night, but Steph did some reorganizing so she could talk to Tim about his problems before some cuddling, which would be difficult to do when one of the world's greatest athletes is riding your dick at full force for 3 hours straight.
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>>83977061
Batman is yelling at his foot.
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>>83986047
Same.
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>>83986047
Maybe he will join TEC after he has healed from his off-screen ass whooping after an arc or two.
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>mfw no Harper Row
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>>83976992
Aw yeah boy
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>>83986047
JPV and Cass when?
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>>83986588
Yet.
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>>83982611
Yes, I just bought my hardcopy, and I got that variant because it's so much cooler looking that the other one.
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>>83982875
Seriously, those Colony tanks are so clearly the Tumbler. :)
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>>83986718
Wasn't she mentioned by Alfred and Bruce before the Colony showed up?
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>>83984227
Why in the world would people hate issue 13? I mean, issues 11-12, sure, or other issues (basically any of Ed Brisson's issues), but Tynion did a really excellent job with issue 13.
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>>83986588
Tynion already said she will be back and shown doing other stuff to help Gotham since she is retired for now
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>>83986878
Didn't mean that, she'll appear in some future issue. No idea will she become regular or guest star.
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>>83977169
God I hope not
That would be so retarded
maybe he just grapples away[/spoiler8
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>>83987004
it's just 50 people
even in the Arkham games he can do that
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>>83976810
Albuquerque is probably my favorite Batman artist. That variant is a goddamn thing of beauty.
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>>83977076
Sorry, I can't, she's a nefarious character
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>>83986842
go back to tumblr
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>>83987034
Yeah, but those are thugs.
This looks like a well-trained militia
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>>83976907
I love Clayface already. Him going legit could be a lot of fun.
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>>83987088
well, so were the ones in Arkham Knight
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>>83987056
I'm on both. Multi-tabbed browsing is a thing, now. :)
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>>83977219
my thoughts exactly
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>>83987118
>>83987004
Just because a videogame has nonsensical garbage writing it doesn't mean the comics have to follow.
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>>83981203
Damian likes older women
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>>83981290
He has his pets and Maya Ducard
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How old is Tim supposed to be?
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>>83985077

Better?
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>>83976934
Whenever it shows a close up of Tim's face, he looks eerily similar to Nightwing. I'm pretty sure it's because of the mask.
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>>83988771
Thank you so much.
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>>83988760
He's never gonna be 18 so he's either 16 or 17
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>>83977315
underrated post
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>>83977007
It bugs me way more than it should how Barrows forgets Kate's tattoos and makes her hair look so awful.
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>>83989354
That looks better.
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>>83976992
YES
E
S
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>>83977432
I do it all the time.
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When did Clayface stope being evil?
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>>83977268
Yeah but they paired Tim with Cass later on. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea, as a Konfag those issues infuriated me.
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>>83976965
How did she learn Bruce identity?
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>>83976992
Please fuck off Tim. You're pretty much pointless now anyway and every writer under the son keeps pushing the don't wanna be a superhero angle.
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Could someone explain this obsession here about Harper Row?
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>>83977007
>Bruce is a lone asshole he says
>Meanwhile Bruce says Kate is best because she works as a unit

kek
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>>83983276
Multimedia synergy
>Batmobiles from the movies
>Characters from the hit game
Soon Ben Affleck will be what everyone uses as a model for Bruce
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>>83977911

Bruce's identity really isn't even a secret anymore, writers just can't wait to have him reveal it to everyone any chance they get. Most of them already knew before he told them somehow.

At this point I think the only person in Gotham who doesn't know is Catwoman.
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>>83984178
Because he's written plenty of schlock or boring stuff before
>Batman Eternal
>his run on Red Hood

Two issues doesn't suddenly negate the dozens of meh or crappy stuff he has done.
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>>83977911
Because a majority of his enemies and the larger public don't know who he is.
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>>83990537
I want to say Leslie Thompkins has known Bruce was Batman for years, but she's such an inconsistent character I genuinely can't remember. Some bat-writers seem to forget she exists at all, or if they remember her they don't care enough to use her ever. But then other times she's basically treated as Bruce's surrogate mom after his parents were killed. I'm not even really sure what her status has been in the nu52.
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>>83990710
She has blue hair and that makes people think of tumblr.

I find her no more irritating than pre-new 52 Tim Drake. I find her far less irritating than at least half of the Bat-family in their current state.
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>>83991121

She was given spotlight that was denied far more deserving characters, and she's just an obnoxious and unlikable person in general.

>Literally stated to be more special and awesome than the other Robins
>Basically pulled a Stephanie by forcing her way into the batfamily when there was no reason for it
>Written to just be incredibly obnoxious with arrogant and eye-rolling one-liners and quips, with no charming qualities to make up for it.
>Writers keep giving her the spotlight over other, more deserving characters.
>Only person able to calm down Bruce after Damian's death. Something Alfred, Dick, Clark, and Selina all failed at.

There are other reasons but those stand out to me. Of course there are no bad characters, but nobody has been able to make her work yet for me.
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>>83976907
Shouldn't Kate be training, too? She's not that good, herself

Also, Orphan is a dumb name
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>>83991492

>She's not that good, herself

She literally beat up Batman
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>>83976977
The ex-assassin was Azrael
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Would /co/ start liking Harper if she became part of Tim's harem?
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>>83976907
>execute complicated attacks

I don't have words for how bad this writing is.

>>83976926

Everything anyone says is just holding speeches at each other.
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juggling too many characters here
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>>83991669
>Would /co/ start liking Harper

No.

I can't imagine anything in the world that could make me like Harper. I don't like that snarky bullshit teen asshole character type even when it's done well, and Harper is even shittier than usual. BRE revolving entirely around her was the last straw.
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>>83992046

Tynion doesn't learn. BRE turned to shit because it had at least double the amount of characters it should have had, and this is just more of the same.
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>>83977092
>Back against the Wall

Nightwing vs Suicide Squad?
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>>83979541
Well, that'll only last until he rapes someone, gets scolded, then realizes rape is wrong.
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>>83977885
50+ one in each car=52
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>>83992106

no the real problem is having that many characters and trying to make them all equally important at the same time.

they need to look at older x-men comics and see that you can have the massive cast, but only really focus on 2-3 per arc.
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>>83992037
Steph is bad at managing her meter.
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>>83976849
who is the member of this batfamily with the bat-gauntlets?
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>>83992905

That's Clayface. The gauntlets inhibit his power resulting in him staying in a single form for a longer time.
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>>83992954
right, figured it out as i read, thanks famalam!
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>>83992779

That's apparently what we're getting. This one focuses on Kathy and Tim. The next arc after the Monster Men tie-in supposedly will be centered on Stephanie and the final one of the year will tie with Cassandra.
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>>83979607
>hey Freeze want to work for GCPD as a hero? We'll give you a salary and stipend to fund research to save your wife.
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I haven't been able to keep up with DC's shit since Forever Evil, but this looked really interesting.
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>>83976955
i wish tim had a more "red robin" costume rather than this generic, but still good looking imo, robin suit. especially considering damian is still robin, tim should still be red robin
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Can I jump in with Rebirth? I don't want to read 900 comics.
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>>83977137
>This issue was great, IMO.

Kill yourself, IMO.
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>>83980872
That can be resolved by saying it's superglass that shows a different interior
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>>83977169

Any sane writer would have Batman be kidnapped by the Arkham Force over there and become a damsel-in-distress for the actual main characters to rescue. However, considering how shit Tynion is, it's probably more likely that Batman just beats them all, making the enemy look nonthreatening and the other characters useless.
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>>83981203
Damien has Nobody Girl in his book.
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>>83993181
She family-zoned him.
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>>83977184
>They literally only mentioned Harper

That's way too much Harper for my blood. Harper shouldn't be brought up at all for at least three years.
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>>83991492
>Shouldn't Kate be training, too? She's not that good, herself

She flunked out of West Point, which apparently trumps all the capeshit in the world.
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>>83993053
I agree. This is a better costume than his nu52 suit, but is blatantly "Robin" what with it being a teched up version of his original suit.

Needs more Red to be Red Robin.
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>>83993335
though as i continued reading, bruce did give an explanation, id just rather him adopt the original red robin suit with the condom mask
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>>83990710
>Could someone explain this obsession here about Harper Row?

Stephanie Brown and Cassandra Cain were, for some reason or another, banned from appearing in comics for several years. Creation of Harper, a new teen girl Bat-sidekick, while the two established ones were expressly not allowed to be used was seen as a middle finger towards the fans of those two. The two Eternal series, where Steph and Cass were finally reintroduced, were also hijacked by Harper Row, and that was seen as an even greater insult. Then there's the fact that Cassandra's backstory was tied to Harper's via a retcon, and so on.

Tl;dr: I'm a Cass fan and Harper makes my fucking blood boil because of that. She shouldn't be just killed, she should be deleted from existence.
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>>83977410
>oh neat, did they get together during Batman and Robin Eternal?

No, they got together completely off-panel because fuck showing these things happen.

Actually I'd be happy with that if they just took that approach to everything. Just have it turn from Nu52 to pre-FP off-panel, and never explain how or why. Get it done as fast as possible, like ripping off a band-aid.
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>>83980641

I fucking wish. But no. They're trying to keep the worst comic of all time in continuity.
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>>83981141

If they try to ship Duke together with Cass I will flip my fucking shit.

Yes, I know Cass has burned coal before, but at least that time it was a cool character and not Affirmative Action Robin #147.

And Jason is almost as bad.
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>>83984600
>>Cass gives a thumbs up to Steph.

What comic are you reading? That doesn't happen on the page.
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>>83980435
>This book is some crazy fan-servive.

Then why does it make me feel like Tynion shat in my cereal?

Only "fanservice" thing that has happened is that Tim and Steph got back together off-panel. That's so little. If that much is enough to make you forgive having been raped with a rusty shovel for years, well fuck, you deserve DC.

I will not forgive these fuckers if they're not going to at LEAST retcon BRE, all of BRE, out of continuity.
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>>83981203

Damian meets Cass and Steph 2.0


Oh dear and this time he's closer in age with Cass!!
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>>83977044
IDK why but it's like seeing Batman vs Christian Bale in these panels
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>>83991492

I think at a certain point Cass will drop the name and get a more Bat-themed costume.
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>>83994354
>I think at a certain point Cass will drop the name and get a more Bat-themed costume.

I think that point should be FUCKING RIGHT NOW FOR FUCK'S SAKE. STOP FUCKING AROUND YOU FUCKING KEKS. FUCK.

AND GIVE HER BACK HER REAL FUCKING ORIGIN.
>>
I wanna see Cass trying to learn how to speak and socialize
also the lack of gadget ex machina in her fight scenes, I think, makes them more satisfying
>>
Thank you
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>>83977248
>Honestly, everyone's made her out to be this big comics-ruining mistake

BRE was the most important Cassandra Cain story in ten years (not to mention the only C.C. story in five), and it was entirely wasted on propping up Harper Row, to the point that Cass was reduced to a literal prop in Harper's story. So yes, she is a comics-ruining mistake.

Even now, Cassandra Cain is ruined beyond repair (barring major retcons) because the writer of this comic, Tynion, decided Harper Row was a bigger priority.
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>>83996096
That Clayface intro was the nicest scene in this so far.
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The end
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>>83996208
Yeah, they are going full Arkham knight
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>>83996146

Clayface should not be in this comic.
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>>83996084
>Black shirt with white skull on one person
>Muscular black guy with a yellow shirt

Are they making a veiled jab that Cass somehow took down Punisher and Luke Cage?
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I hope this is foreshadowing. Please be a robot or a clone. I know this is not the worst Tim has been since the reboot, but he is still such a weird, directionless character.
>>
How long before Clayface betrays the team? You know its gonna happen. a longtime bat villain cant change its stripes, not to mention he's too powerful to be a goodguy in this setting.
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>>83996254

Hmm now that you mention it first guy was also a bit Nick Fury-ish. Heck the final panel here reminds me of an old Fury comic to the Tim/Steph scene.
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>>83996247
https://youtu.be/SXKrsJZWqK0
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>>83977432
You're saying you freeball in your pajamas? How awkward.
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>>83980872
>>83993144
Or, you know, one way reflective glass, like almost every skyscraper has
>>
Batman is a cunt.
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>>83988771
Does everyone still try and self-insert into Tim? Is that why they enjoy pairing him with Steph and Cass together all the time even though he's bored me to death, especially when he became Robin?
>>
Bruce giving Duk and Harper the red carpet while ignoring his own child is inexcusable.
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>>83997796
>he's bored me to death,
This.
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>>83997825
Dude what? He's got Duke locked away in a cave being told "keep training", meanwhile he's spent more time paying attention to Tim.
>>
This issue was meh at best.
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>>83995845
I'll admit the suit is a massive improvement to what they used to try and replace during No Man's Land and all the others. Is Tynion planning on expanding on him going meta before he was killed off?
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>>83997878

>replying to the damiposter

stop
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>>83993053
>>83993335

The comic gave a good explanation for the new costume.

Nu52 Tim always said that he wasn't a Robin and after just 6 months he fucked off to lead the Teen titans, so Bruce gave him now a Robin suit to show him that he is indeed a Robin and placed him in the team back in Gotham to make him feel more welcomed.

That also might explain the lack of Nightwing and Damian in the team, since both of them don't really need any pep talk or protection.
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>>83997878
>Duke locked away in a cave being told "keep training",
>Duke black Tim Drake 02.
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>>83997968
Duke pls.
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>>83976992

Fuck this horseshit.
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>>83998008
>That also might explain the lack of Nightwing and Damian in the team, since both of them don't really need any pep talk or protection.
Damian and Dick are better than this looser and Batman.
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>>83997878
That's not a good news for me :(.
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>>83977007
But why endure a lone crusade, fight a fight you just can't win?

If asked, the Bat would tell you:
"Someone's gotta stand up to all this sin"
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>>83998008
>lack of Nightwing and Damian
Thefuckingshit??...
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>>83998378
You're not the only one.
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>>83998008

Nightwing isn't around because Tim is literally just Dick. The two are now interchangeable. Hell, on a good day I'd be hard pressed to tell you the differences between the two, but now they might as well be the exact same person.
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really* dislike the Eternal series that Tynion headed
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>>83988006
I love the Maya/Damian relationship - it feels very much like Steph and Damian in BQM's Batgirl.
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>>83993478
You have some good points, but I'm a Steph fan, and despite my hating Batman Eternal #51 with a passion that will not die, I still like Harper as her own character. Some writers failed to write her well (Batman and Robin Eternal had a bit too much of that, sadly), but I think she's pretty fun. I'm glad she's taking time off, since I'm really here for Steph (and Tim and Cass), but I don't mind Harper in general.
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>>83992999
What wife?
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>>83998520
I just wanna know when the fuck will Maya give Damian a solid dicking.
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>>83988976
>Robins are clones
More at 11.
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>>83998598
Your reminder leaves me COLD.
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>>83993478
>characterfag being triggered because someone else is in spotlight
Shocking.
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>>83996403
It looks to me like he's going to be a good guy at least the whole first arc, plus Orlando's crossover, based on covers and previews.
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>>83997772
Back from school, Damifag?
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I dunno if i missed something but why does kate use a wig as batwoman? I see no advantages from a pratical standpoint.
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>>83998707
Batman is a big cunt :D
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>>83997230
You're supposed to freeball. Unless it's cold and you want layers.
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>>83994439
Her real origin is mostly intact though.

>Raised by David Cain as an experiment at creating the ultimate assassin
>Kills someone
>feels bad about it
>goes off looking for redemption
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>>83998743
Helps hide her identity, and if someone gets the idea to pull her hair they'll just get surprised. Like cops and clip on ties.
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>>83998743
It gives her an iconic thing that people will remember to set her apart from Batman, it comes off easily so it's not a danger in a fight if someone grabs her hair, and it's good for the secret identity (I think. It's been a while since I've read Elegy).
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>>83998598
The one only he could remember until Rebirth returns everyone elses memories.
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>>83998823
Yeah, I don't really get why people hated BRE so much. I mean, it wasn't great, but I thought it was largely pretty good. (And yes, I've heard your "Harper is teh worst, 75th anniversary, etc" before. I think all of the things that make Robin great were highlighted really well.)
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>>83998883
I think the reason people hated BRE was because of how much Harper was thrust upon us. I mean, she was the central figure of the entire story, with the plot even dictating that she was supposed to be the ultimate sidekick for Batman had Cass not fucked up in traumatising her.
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>>83998932
I know several people, including grown ass adults who hated Duke and Harper ...
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>>83990482
Get bent you cuck.

Tim/Cass will always be the One True Pairing.
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>>83998823
I think what most people find objectionable is all the crap connecting her and Cain to the main villain in BRE. The spirit of that original origin I think was compromised as was the whole part of Cain being a tool of Mother instead of her dad.
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>>83976934
I'm reading this for Kate/Batwoman
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>>83993791
You can do whatever you want after you've spent a few days killing demons in a hell dimension.
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>>83994531
I miss Cass's connection with Oracle. There's nobody to care about Cass as a person instead of a crime-fighting weapon in this book, especially with Steph and Tim snogging.
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>>83996061
Casual conversations in the middle of combat between characters who need to focus or at least be breathing heavily is a pet peeve of mine. Why should I pay attention to the "action" being drawn if the characters involved can't be bothered to?
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>>83997928
he wasnt killed off, just put in a coma
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>>83996249
They should be focusing on reforming Clayface instead of making him a better fighter.

Good thing comic power lvls vary depending on the story and writer or that sort of thing could bite the good guys on the ass during Clayface's inevitable betrayal.
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>>83996403
there are multiple Clayfaces so they can allow one to go good
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>>83996403
>You know its gonna happen. a longtime bat villain cant change its stripes,

That usually happens when another writer uses the character and disregards what the previous guy who used him set up. This isn't at all what is happening here.
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>>84000162
You should tell that to DC since he appeared in Blackest Night as a Black Lantern.
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it is awkward thatDuke is once again in Damians place. Hopefully that comes up, mabey damian will be a bit more mature since he has aged a bit while everyone else around him has not.
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>>83998883
I don't know, I did not like the reductive "Tim is brains, Jason is brawn, Dick is the heart"-reading at all. It just highlighted how hard they are to discern after the reboot wiped away their individual growth and history. And yes, the former Robins have had mild clone problems before, but at least you used to have a clearer age- and biographical difference.
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>>83981296
Jason's mask gets smashed so often he must have a million spares
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>>84003749
>that's why I'm mercenary, Bruce. Mask money doesn't grow on the trees
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The Cliffs of Insanity: Batman. Worst. Mentor. Ever.
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>>84003473
Damian is the warrior.
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>>84004197
Aw, this is actually cute. I like how he pointedly calls Talia by her name.
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>>83997796
Pretty much
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>>84002619
Damian already met Duke more than once and they get along fine. Definitely better than Damian and Tim, or even Jason. Also, it's not like Bruce adopted Duke. Their relationship seems to be strictly professional.
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>>83998520
> Harper takes cass and maya takes damian

Poor steph
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>>84004255
I wish Maya and the Darga boy were in Teen Titans.
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>>84004255
I want Maya .dami and dick , cass and Jason in a team..a new team book..with the cool people..

batman gets loosers
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>>84004266
me too.
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>>84004303
Batman: Gates of Gotham 2017.
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>>84004303
>Jason
>cool
kek
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>>84004348
he has kill a Natzi in his old comic..that is cool.
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team cool vs team loser.
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>>84004303
and midnighter is in team cool.
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>>84004364
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>>83976791
am not personally really feeling this book from what I've seen so far, but it's not like that is some required stamp of quality. guess my issue is that Tynion is really pushing hard and literally telling us how all of them are the greatest. Actually, it seems there is an insane amount of telling instead of showing and that Tynion really wants all of these characters to be core characters, which is fine, but I can't recall a lot of stories where this approach has worked long-term.

Especially the Batwoman approach is annoying me because what she does here doesn't feel earned. She's been able to figure out his secret identity, is able to read Batman like an open book and is constantly telling us how they are equals in this. I don't have a problem with pushing Batwoman and having her earn to be equal with Batman over the run, but instead we are essentially constantly hammered by how awesome Batwoman is to the point where I thnk Tynion is writing her to be even superior to Batman.
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>>83976798
looks like a damn anime cover.
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Ugh. Timsteph.
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>>84004553
>there is an insane amount of telling instead of showing

Tynion's approach to storytelling has always been characters holding exposition speeches at each other and talking about how great somebody is.
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>>83998823
>Her real origin is mostly intact though.

You have a real fucking lax definition of "intact" if that broken bastardized bullshit qualifies.

Cassandra's real origin was perfect. A classic. There was no reason to change any part of it. Only thing you needed to change for the new continuity was how she meets Batman, and that's it. You didn't need to tie her to the shitty villain of the month. You certainly didn't need to tie her to Harper Fucking Row. She does not benefit from that at all.
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>>84005193
>You certainly didn't need to tie her to Harper Fucking Row.
I agree.. Harper is cancer.
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Goodbye thank you anon.
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