Homestuck

I think John needs to pick a woman and not go harem

There will not be an epilogue

>>83945080
That'd hopefully be Roxy

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>>83945064
I'm looking forward to the 2nd generation, new players that are offspring of the current players, like with the Harry Potter story that was published thsi year, or like with the Xanth novels.

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>>83945098
*Rose

>>83945104
Why is John a single father

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>>83945104
This.

>>83945127
Dude I like JohnRose too but you gotta learn to let go one day. It's just not gonna happen.

>>83945064
>A thread for reposting old stale opinions and image dumps for people that can't move on

fixed that for you OP

>>83945149
Hussie's not going to confirm any other straight ship either so whatever.

Why do people keep complaining about mary sues? There are literally none in homestuck.

>>83945140
Roxy died during childbirth

>>83945165
Meme off, boyo.
>>83945181
You'd be surprised. :^)

>>83945178
Doesn't hussie hate straight ships or whatever?

He doesn't seem to like to write relationships at all.

>>83945104
Wait what? Harry Potter TNG happened?
Anyway I kind of doubt we're getting confirmed ships past what we already saw. The ambiguity was way too deliberate, it just looks like he doesn't want to do it.

>>83945214
Seems like it.

>>83945211
But there literally are none. I dont understand.

>>83945181
Did you stop reading at Act 5?

>>83945181
Homestuck is a story ALL ABOUT the standard types of mary sues, and how they can still make an interesting story together by the way they interact.

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>>83944228
Hey, sorry this took so long. I was having dinner with my family

What a bunch of friendly-looking people :3

And I just realized I only drew Phileq smiling like the piece of shit he is

>>83945198
but jane could just revive her

>>83945245
Let's see you refute these (just because it'd be interesting.)

John.
Roxy.
Sollux.
Vriska.
Aradia.

Those are the common ones I can think of.

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This is some modern vaporwave I wasn't aware of.

>>83945214
Judging by the quality of Rose/Kanaya and Dave/Karkat, he hates gay ones as well.

>>83945259
But they eventually made the story uninteresting. Funny how that works.

>>83945262
Is blue troll a muslim

>>83945291
this post is nonsensical

you can't have more than 1 mary sue. they are required to be the focal point of the story at all times. if they have to share, they're not mary sues

>>83945262
where is the alien or predator troll

>>83945104
>tfw you actually thought up Homestuck TNG stuff and even made a fictional race as the new badguys

I'm not proud

>>83945278
Jane also died

>>83945320
Those are just common ones; never said they all were. And that's not the exact definition anyway; it doesn't have to be the exact focal point at ALL times.

>>83945262
>olive blood troll
CUTE

What exactly was the point of making Jake stupid, besides so characters could go "gee jake you're so stupid". He doesn't even get the benefit of being capable technology-wise since jade said that she was the one who did al, the work on the bunny bot.

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>>83945140
Who said he is? Maybe Mom Egbert's just offscreen

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>>83945255
No, i stopped at the end of act 6. I didnt like act 7 so i decided not to read it.
>>83945291
>john and sollux
Mary sues are girls. Garry stues are for boys.
>roxy and aradia
They cant be mary sues because vriska is already one
>vriska
Vriska isnt a mary sue, idiot

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what

>>83945394
So that our lord could talk to a fellow stupid guy about his learning disability

>>83945394
Jake was stupid to be stupid. What other point would it have? Also, he's a competent fighter, I guess.

>>83945435
haha
They're doing it in response to davejade week, which has been a thing for a while
That's fucking pathetic

>>83945140
so that he can be like his father

>>83945471
Eh, better than Davekat week.

>>83945435
Better than davekat week

>>83945104
>Xanth novels
man I used to be super into xanth
man from mundania was a not insignificant part of my sexual awakening

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why is there no spurdo fantroll yet

i thought this was a creative fandom?

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>>83945336
Not a part of the cast, unfortunately.
>>83945318
No, he's a capitalist.
>>83945379
Her name is Gritte and she is in a blackrom relationship with the one on the far left. They fuck a LOT.
>>83945262
FABULOUS

posting the shipping pile

>>83945435
>>83945471
>>83945493
Who? What's the point? Why does Dave get all the weeks?

>>83945422
Watch it, anon. Feel the rage flow through you. Embrace it.

>>83945503
Spurdo is the most anti-creative thing there is.

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>>83945500
I was, then I found Discworld and never looked back. Rereading them, Xanth was... kind of bad.

>>83945503
Finns don't read Homestuck

>>83945298
that's what t-shirts are nowadays
just plaster a big ol' screenshot across your chest
it won't look unnatural at all

>>83945506
When why the crescent and almost star?

>>83945346
Tell us about your shame anon

>>83945350
calliope could lend jane the life ring so she could revive roxy

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>>83945555
CHECKED

desu it was kind of an arbitrary decision - I just came up with an icon on the spot, but it's retroactively a symbol of the interrupted flow of goods and services, where natural cycles of objects are interrupted and exploited by an outside individual.

>>83945543
Yeah I believe it
I haven't reread them since I graduated from high school

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>>83945104
> Xanth novels
kill yourself

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ARADIA A CUTE!!!
CUTE!

>>83945572
Calliope died and the ring fell in hot lava

>>83945572
you need the ring to live.

Honestly they should just take the ring from calliope and give it to Eridan

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"What a happy family! :3"

>>83945612
fucking jump scares

>>83945525
I dont have rage, silly, i identify as a knight of sylph

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>>83945516
Because they are gearing up to the true ideal of Dave Pairings: DaveJane.

>>83945612
Thats a really fucked up looking aradia

>>83945624
Triggered.

But seriously, please tell us why you hate Davekat.

>>83945622
eridan wwas a one-note character wwho played his role perfectly, just like vriska. both should stay dead.

I'm surprised that a product with such a frothing fanbase that produced dozens are pieces of art every day just outright stopped making art at the conclusion of the product.

Hey, I've been mulling over this for a while--
How would a Thief or a Rouge of Doom steal doom? Is that like fate?

>>83945612
dude what if
dude
what if we made the asian troll
and made her black lmao
>what? like a pacific islander?
that makes sense be-
NO LMAO
LIKE LITERALLY BLACK
>o-okay i guess she can be afromexic-
BLACK.
WITH PINK HAIR.

>>83945674
It represents Vriskagram and the retcon to me

>>83945674
Who doesnt? Andrew is an autist who can't portrait gay relationships well yet does it on the last 10% of comic lenght.

>>83945674
Just generic "shouty and cool" yaoi shit. Ruins the characters.

>>83945571
Uh well
Um, the general gist was that the eight kids have disappeared after fighting LE obviously, their own kids live in orphanages or otherwise, having been given up for adoption as babies and the trolls left for New Alternia or something
So the general gist was that the kids are just mythological figures.
New race comes looking for them. Actually honestly I put more thought into the aliens. They're Sburb players from a 128 player session that never won, and instead opted to stay in the game forever, and restarted their race and pretty much gutted their entire session for resources. Then they started traveling to other sessions and raiding them if they hadn't finished, or entering and conquering their universe if they had. So they're pro PVP gankers who can alchemize entire starship fleets and have rigged Skaia up into this horrible WH40kesque Hive city with huge cameras constantly scanning the clouds for information and future-predictions. Their main emperor guy is now obsessed with this supposed series of sessions that birthed the Green Sun and did all this supposedly impossible shit (like a single player session) and is trying to track them down for his own goals.

>>83945697
There's still some fanartists out there, just a drop in the bucket compared to what it once was like.

>>83945674
0 romantic chemistry + shoved down everyone's throats everywhere except hst. hst is pretty much the davekat-free safe haven

>>83945698
a thief of doom would more or less absorb bad luck from their friends, or could do things like take someone's place in a prophecy, or, if they're feeling selfless (not likely, considering that they're a thief), they could probably bypass the GT resurrection thing and bring back a dead person permanently, but in exchange, giving themselves their death.

a rogue of doom redistributes death and fate. so you can basically make shields on allies that cause them to reflect damage and shit.

>>83945697
Most of them either became prolific artist themselves or entered college now.

>>83945684
>vriska
>not vvriska
fuck off you filthy imposter, you dont knoww shit about me

>>83945776
>,
badge

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>>83945746
>thief of doom
sounds like the party tank for BAD ENDs. Better make friends with, like, a sylph of light or something or else that "take one for the team" trick will only work once.

>>83945809
Cute fan troll! What is her name?

>>83945810
does anyone have the badge images? Did they ever exist or am I just imagining them?

>>83945776
>commas

BADGE

>>83945674
HSG was always flipping their shit looking for "pandering" in everything that ever happened. It was always bullshit, until Davekat, which was literally 100% pandering that would never have happened if Hussie didn't know tons of fangirls loved it. It was forced, it was awkward, it was a total loss of dignity for the story, and Hussie went into solitary confinement after giving it, so it was like a rape in every way.

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>>83945827
arabia!

>>83945746
Oh neat, thank you.
By the way, is there something like a masterlist of what each class + aspect pair might mean for a player?

>>83945827
Assist Milkio

>>83945729
That sounds pretty cool
Too bad hussie will never do anything to explore the potential of what a dedicated player can do with sburb, ever
Even with caliborn he thought it was more interesting to just invent a new kind of session than to have him exploit a straight session

>>83945809
>you don't get a nametag when you work in troll fast-food, you just get your birth symbol
brutal

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>>83945674
It's shitty that they hooked up because it feels like the girls on the meteor were actively excluding/not interacting with them and that was the reason. I couldn't give a shit about their sexuality but it really chaps how shitty the other characters look because of it. Vriska I can understand being shitty but Vriskagram just made it look like nobody could be assed to even interact with either of them, and that's really a jarring thing to see when there's only 10 people on a fucking meteor for three years. It feels like a product of isolation/segregation rather than a love story, and that's shitty.

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>>83945868

>>83945868
your tip is not getting culled

>>83945860
not a summary one, although i'll probably make one for the classpect site eventually.
>>83945885
potato noodle and jimmie rustle are both valid troll names.

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>>83945853
I cant believe she just sat and watched!

>>83945868
The uniform is also rust-colored, so it is basically like a McLowBloods or something. Maybe the Taco Bell of the caste system.

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And it's done. The land of Solemnity and Blades, for Liveblogger, described by Classpectanon.

>>83945945
Nice!

>>83945945
That's beautiful, anon.

>>83945945
noice

>>83945945
This is the most horrifying Mega Man level I've ever seen, jesus.

>>83945945
sav'd

>>83945945
N I C E

>>83945945
10/10, buddy.

>>83945622
yeah but
with roxy alive, she can just take the ring and give it back to calliope

or they can just leave her for dead and keep jane around

>>83945945
J E S U S

>>83945864
Well I just wanted to build on the fact that if Sburb's an MMO, there's gotta be the shitty players who are only in it for PVP.
So I mixed that with Combine-esque fascists.
So all their space players were all military, with their head space player being able to fly in entire orbital cannons and fleets with their power
And the life players were crazy nazi doctors. Their head wanted dave and jade's kid because they had first guardian DNA, which is extremely powerful and useful.

>>83945824
that pic is pretty fucked up

>>83946039
shit I didn't even think about that
Jade's kids are all going to space warping little damiens

>>83945262
I recognize the horror movies of the last four of them right away. The first one I know only because I've seen other art of that troll. the yellowblood I'm totally blanking on.

>>83945936
datsmy fetish is a valid troll name

Anyone remember if Liveblogger had a tumblr, so that I can link it in the writeup post for this one? I seem to recall there being one but I never looked at it.

>>83946083
Babadook, it's from 2014 IIRC so it's totally cool to not remember or know of it.

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>>83945674
What the other people said and seeing my favorite character Karkat being reduced to a shitty girlfriend character who can't even get solo images anymore without referencing his fucking boyfriend Dave.

>>83945945
I just kind of followed the process out of the corner of the eye, would you mind summarizing it for me?

>>83945746
so thieves of doom either die a standard thief death or sacrifice themselves for the good of the team?
also would stealing a GT death kill them immediately, or just mean that they automatically take that judgment the next time they die?

>>83945262
What horror movie were the red and teal one based on again?

>>83946039
>Davejade
And you ruined it

>>83946136
Drawing all the swords was bullshit so I modelled them in 3dsmax and carefully tuned the toon shader, mixed it with a gradient and two sets of environment fog, then brought it into photoshop to add the spikes, house and sky.

>>83946109
fuckingletmehaveaname

>>83946163
Fuck you, Spacetime Harley-davidson for life. Davekat can crawl back into the progressive shithole it was birthed in

>>83946169
Huh. I had no idea you could get a result like that with a 3D modeling program. It really doesn't look like it was achieved that way. Nice.

>>83946151
it means that they would basically switch places.

if the GT was to die by impalement, then they would miraculously survive their judgment, and then, by unrelated circumstances, the thief would die by impalement.
>>83946161
The Thing and Scream, respectively.

The Scream troll is the only sane one among them, and he is a giant douchebag, and also a rapist.

>>83946169
> drawing was bullshit so I made them
You're a computer programmer aren't you? "making one was too hard so I built a machine that produces a thousand each time." madman.

>>83945729
>rigged Skaia up into this horrible WH40kesque Hive city with huge cameras constantly scanning the clouds for information and future-predictions
Why is Skaia still sending them predictions? What's it planning with this whole mess?

>>83946151
i think a thief of doom would be like the guy who goes into the reactor to shut down the self-destruct sequence at the cost of dying from radiation exposuer

>>83946229
How does the red one relate to the Thing? Killing people and keeping mementos to pretend they are them?

>>83946233
I had two explanations. Either it can't help it, or it's been trying to destroy them over the millions of years they've had their empire, but it plays a long game.
Ultimately I kind of imagined it lower key that Homestuck. More harry potter "orphans finding their past" style stuff than universal war, battles more local so that when the big guns, the god tiers and Lord English show up and annihilate entire planets, shit would really feel real.

>>83946260
She kills people and then replaces them, disguising herself as them, and then scouting out new victims from their friends.

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>>83946237
oh but what if they were compelled to be a theif, like how the Handmaiden couldn't quit her service as a maid?
Dude would keep accumulating BAD ENDs of his teammates, but no sweet release of finally dying, just getting more and more broken over time. Yikes.

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caliborn is for ____.

>>83946227
I've been working out how to for a long time. I'm also working on a land generator program, so it's pretty important that I can render things in a style matching the comic.

>>83946213
Thanks.

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>>83946163
LITERALLY
the best ship

>>83945824
HOLY SHIT

dat condy

>>83946318
wait what was the context for this image again? Why is Jade the only one left alive?

>>83946289
So when introducing the character, you first actually introduce on of the victims she currently is just imitating?

>>83946337
It's pretty impressive.

>>83946318
wow that's a real fucking raw pic there.

>>83946354
i would gladly let her horribly sex me to death

>>83946334
Killing Lord English.

>>83946230
"Technical artist", so a bit from both. I'm the guy who bridges the gap between artists and programmers in a team. I can do both, but honestly fuck drawing THAT many swords.

>>83946377
Eyes5 had a lot of fucked up shit, jadebot raping Dave, Vriska getting eaten by spidermom, that one, mom breastfeeding baby Rose while drinking

>>83946365
I think it's implying that Homestuck was in her imagination and that her friends are just statues she made.

>>83946369
if i was doing a fan venture, yes, it'd be a "meta twist" in that she can fool the audience too, but i'm doing an askblog http://askthehorrortrolls.tumblr.com, so it's more or less out in the open.

>>83946400
Was it the same artist who did the "John and Rose execute Terezi and then Rose holds the remains of her horns" fanart? Man, people were fucking pissed at Terezi back then.

>>83946408
they're taxidermied you dumb butt

>>83946443
I just thought it was the generic twist. ;(

>>83946439
yes

anybody have that pic of john looking at snowglobe and him being autistic all along

>>83946439
Why were they

>>83946260
She was adopted by a nautical lusus, because it was confused and didn't recognize her as a lowblood. As she grew, she had to surround herself by things that smelled of the correct bloodtype so her lusus wouldn't reflexively kill her. It got harder and harder to do, so she had to kill her own parent before it killed her.
Now she's on the run. She will kill another troll, and pretend to be them, so she can have a home and a parent and a livelihood and friends... until she can't use the troll's corpse to disguise herself, and then she has to kill her new lusus again before it catches on that this isn't their child.

every time, she adopts their mannerisms, wears their clothes and infuses her skin with their blood so she will smell like them and she can make use of the lusus's shelter. Until it's time to kill her new adopted parent before they kill her.

>>83946499
Better ending that the actual one.

>>83946512
She killed John and doomed Dave

>>83946439
Can somebody post that?

>>83946516
basically, except it was just a very high ranking blue-blooded Huskie lusus (because lol The Thing)

>>83946318
>stealing everyone else's fate and bad fortune means their friends won't die, meaning no death to steal
>the bad luck they have constantly causes them to fall down stairs and step on sharp objects, other inconsequential things that won't actually kill them or are bad enough to cause it to burn out, but make every living moment hell
>they get the Choice to either damn themselves to a heroic death, letting all the bad fortune in their session die along with them, or to transfer all their bad luck back to the other players

at least i think it'd be something like that

>>83946400
Post the mom breastfeeding one.

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>>83946499

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>>83945262
Who's the oliveblood?

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>>83946595

>>83946601
Shit I don't know why I attached glub's bezier demo gif.

>>83946598
>john wants to fuck his own mom
it all makes sense now
HE was the one with the Oedipus complex all along....

>>83946626
Is this why Rose is retarded?

>>83946641
ROSE SMART GIRL
ROSE BREAK GAME
LOVE ME MOMMY

>>83946641
Breastfeeding is good for babies

>>83946641
Rose seems like the kind of person to be breastfed up to later years so yeah

>>83946626
thatsmyfetish.png
>>83946601
Her name is Gritte Werpal - she had a very big and very angry bear lusus who never let any troll get close to her without murdering them violently, leaving her semi-feral. Then, one day, Phileq did his scummy shit and the end result was Büjorn accidentally made her lusus go berserk and attack her, and she had to kill her lusus in self defense. She snapped completely, segregating her animalistic parts into a separate personality that believes she's her bear lusus, and does more or less the same stuff (killing any troll that gets close to her "PRECIOUS GRITTE", with enough brutality that people actually think a giant fucking bear did it), but then her normal personality got the opportunity to become a normal person, so she does some of that.

Still not completely natural though.

MTG colors: GR

>>83946641
i'm still convinced that doomed dream rose was the stupid one and that she ruined moderately intelligent rose

>>83946626
Will Roxy and Jade breastfeed their kids?

>>83946683
No I mean the horror movie. The troll does sound cute though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYx6Bp8OGiM

So, who's gonna make the first one of these for post ending Homestuck?

>>83946665
>>83946673
drinking heavily while breastfeeding can have a negative impact on a child's development though I do not think to the same extent as fetal alcohol syndrome

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did aurthour breastfeed equius?

>>83946736
No, he udderfed him.

>>83946721
Hopefully nobody.

>>83946752
he doesn't look udderfed to me, he's a big boy!

>>83946721
too much of a pain in the ass to make a collection of good posts

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>>83946764

>>83946709
Psycho is actually more or less the same, in terms of Norman Bates's personality - his mom was super smothering and privacy-invading so one day he snapped, murdered her out of jealousy when she saw him with a guy, and then developed a split personality that would murder women when they got too close to Norman.

I DID IT

I FUCKING ATE VRISKA

I AM THE BEST

>>83945262
Can the teal blood defeat Madara Uchiha?

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>>83946813
karkat... that wasn't vriska...

>>83946824
Can Madara Uchiha defeat Lord english?

>>83946703
Yes
The sight of Jade breastfeeding will send Dave's MILF fetish into overdrive

>>83946824
Probably not, he has only one psychic power and it's not overwhelming, and even if he can outsmart him, Madara could probably just brute force him since he's not a good physical fighter - he just threatens people to manipulate them, and then if they decide to cut the corner and go for him, he just tazes them and runs away.

>>83946835
[S] Vriska: Enter.
[S] Karkat: Retrieve package.

>>83946281
>I had two explanations. Either it can't help it,
I'm pretty sure that Skaia can withhold visions if it wants to. Jack Noir mentioned that Skaia's clouds never showed him anything, and we know it's not a Dersite thing because WV could see things in the clouds. There could be some other explanation, like "it's only high-ranking Dersites that can't see them" or "WV could see them because he lived on Skaia", but those aren't specifically hinted at, so it's most likely something Skaia has control over.

>or it's been trying to destroy them over the millions of years they've had their empire, but it plays a long game.
That's more likely, but it would seem cheap if it were just said off-hand as a way of hand-waving it. The best way to handle it would be to have some idea of Skaia's intent planned from the beginning, and subtly weave it into the whole plot through foreshadowing and coincidences. Because that's the sort of thing Skaia does.

Hmm... I just thought of another possibility. What if Skaia is giving them visions because their actions work in its favor somehow? Skaia's purpose is to ensure the propagation of universes; what if they don't just steal resources from sessions they take over, but actually "win" them on their own terms? They could have whole breeding centers set up to produce specially-made Genesis Frogs, which they take to other Sburb sessions in order to bring to maturity, then invade the universes inside them for whatever it is they take from the worlds they conquer? They selectively breed their frogs to maximize the resources contained within and make them easier to control, essentially turning whole universes into livestock. And because each universe is able to start its own Sburb sessions and produce offspring, this suits Skaia's purposes as well.

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>>83946835
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>83946813
>Karkat eats out Vriska and then goes back to shouting at everyone, spraying gooey cerulean globules into the air
Did not need

>>83946334
cute

I need a clever troll-themed IGN for overwatch.

Help!

>>83946683
>mtg colors

Why is this relevant?

>>83946949
hOnK if youre "horny"

>>83946959
it's not

>>83946949
summer fun eri

>>83945506
You have to give a Jojo Stand and ability to each of your horror trolls. The abilities can't be extensions of their psychic powers (though they can and probably should pair well), and no Huey Louis and the News.

>>83946888
The entire point was that they DIDN'T have a universe at all, that they failed miserably in that regard

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>>83946799
Norman BATEs
Patrick BATEman

HMMMMMMMM

>>83946949
No such thing, it makes you look stupid as soon as anyone gets your reference.

ARANEAAAAAAAAAAA

>>83947061
WANTS

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>>83946888
I like the idea that it wasn't Skaia that showed visions in the clouds, it was a bored Muse of Space doing her fanart thing at the far-end of history, drawing scenes of the story she's watched/read on the clouds. It would be a Muse-y thing to do since those visions inspired players, and we know Calliope loved making fanart when she was a little girl.

>>83947076
My penis.

>>83947097
to die

>>83946982
Arctis Tignyn - Wax Simulacra. This Stand allows its user to remold their skin like wax, and imbue themselves with other properties of wax, along with using wax to patch holes in their skin.
Didide Kokoet - Six Shooters. This stand is an ability type stand that manifests as a small six-shooter revolver. Whenever a projectile is fired with intent to kill or injure at the user, Six Shooters will snatch the projectile out of mid-air and load it into one of its chambers, regardless of its size.
Gritte Werpal - Undertow. This Stand is a traditional combat-based stand with medium range. However, the closer one gets to Undertow's user, the stronger and faster the stand gets while targeting that person.
Phileq Masket - Spirit Crusher. Spirit Crusher is a traditional combat stand that generates waves of noise with every punch and action it makes. It is impossible to kills omeone while using Sunn O))), but very easy to debilitate someone.
Büjorn Villid - Phil Collins. This Stand makes it impossible to attack the user directly, as any person who attempts to will end up falling in love with the user for exponential amounts of time, starting for 5 seconds and doubling with each attack made.
Slavnh Sovost - Sunn O))). Sunn O))) is a combat based stand that is automatic and uncontrollable - whenever someone besides the user begins bleeding, it will attack them without remorse. The harder someone is bleeding, the more vicious its attacks become.

>>83947115
In her vagina.

>>83947023
Even if they failed their own session, that doesn't mean they can't finish someone else's session if they can get there in the first place. Likewise, even if they haven't made a universe of their own, they're certainly able to enter others and live there, since that's the main premise of the story.

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>>83947117
Fck I made a typo at the end of Phileq's.

Anyway, posting stuff to remain on-topic.
>>83947036
This was intentional by the author of American Psycho, I believe.

>>83947125
while she's on her mega period

>>83947147
By god that art style is familiar but I can't place the artist's name.

Does Bujold know that it's Arctis each time? or does he experience it as random troll girls just throwing themselves at him? (and later committing suicide, but then a new girl is all up in his grill ???)

>>83947170
While still in heat.

>>83947199
and also she has crabs

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Can we agree Calliope has the blandest design of teh cast?

>>83947215
In her hands.

>>83947117
>ichi the killer attack bujorn
the only way he can express love is through mutilation

>>83947198
It's the person that's drawn the lion's share of the art so far, including>>83945262

Also, Büjorn and the other four know about Arctis's habits, since they're somewhat close with each other. She just dresses up for him because she doesn't realize that he's asexual and thinks "he likes high blooded things, if i dress highblooded he will like me"

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>>83947215
My Aradia+Karkat folder is completely empty. I have no pictures of that ship.

>>83947234
and they're all baby karkats and they're angry and need their diapers changed and only dave can change them

>>83947255
She then gets them up for adoption where Rose takes them home and cooks them into failed Hot Pockets. The end. Good story.

>>83947247
Aranea, anon

>>83947217
yes

she's just a fucking caliborn recolor

>>83947247
good.
aradia would NEVER.

>>83947217
I don't like the character but I think her visual design is good.

>>83947271
yeah i liked that story, thanks for telling it anon

but you forgot the part where rose eats them slowly while staring kanaya directly into her face

>>83947217
Not really. Calliope's design is simple enough to be elegant, but has just enough decorative details to give her her own look without being overwhelming.

>>83947277
Isn't it more accurate to say that Caliborn is just a Calliope recolor?

i'm trying to argue that you can't take a third option past "kill your denizen" when given a Choice with some nerd and he's using john as a defense
i'm saying retcon powers don't count

>>83947297
My bad.

>>83947315
>i'm trying to argue that you can't take a third option past "kill your denizen" when given a Choice with some nerd and he's using john as a defense
If the choice is presented as a binary "either X or Y", as opposed to "either X or not-X", then it's certainly not impossible. It depends on what exactly the Choice is and why the Denizen is offering it.

>i'm saying retcon powers don't count
I'd say they're a valid example. It's not like John used them to retcon his way out of the Choice in the first place; he used them in a creative way to complete the challenge Typheus gave him.

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>>83947244
> spoiler text
I can dig it. buuuut... (and tell me if I'm going on the wrong track) I remember Bateman was trying really hard to be "normal" in his daily life. His day-life was so normal it was bulletproof, but he has terrifying appetites he would satisfy at night. What if Bujold would go through the motions of romance trying to be "normal," but never actually getting it, because he never feels it, and getting frustrated with his sham-romance partners. and, well, we know what he does when he loses his temper or someone accuses him of being phoney.

>>83947311
Caliborn was around first (as Lord English).

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Post the dumbest thing you've seen about Homestuck.

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>>83947274
Also empty. I just use the firs three letters, so 'AraKar' would have both.
Here's from the AraKan folder.

>>83947384
>Aranea was MIND RAPE Gamzee
Aranea was Gamzee all along???

Also the dumbest thing I ever saw was that massive news article about how progressive Homestuck is and praising it for such

>>83947384
gamzee is hardly an innocent victim, but yeah, aranea was a cunt

>>83947370
he's not a 1:1 copy of bateman, more like he takes after bateman as an aesthetic and personality base but is his own character.

in his case, the only person he felt anything for was a purpleblood didide's moirail who died because didide killed her in self defense, and hasn't felt anything similar for anyone else since. Like Bateman, he DOES regularly pail, but only a: as a mechanism to feed his own ego, and b: to prevent himself from being culled. Other than that, he has no particular interest in sex.

here is a convenient list of all the horrortrolls' weird fetishes, in case you're curious morbidly http://pastebin.com/Z2wgxJUx

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>>83947422
A hot cunt who was pacifying a clearly dangerous person. Also, this is really dumb too.

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>>83947384

>>83947453
Oh god
I remember when later on this guy tried to claim that his article was too "complicated" for Homestuck readers to understand after he deleted it

>>83947485
http://reviews.wikinut.com/Homestuck-Fans%3A-Not-Quite-as-Hip-and-Intellectually-Gifted-as-They-Think/sdquh_yy/

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i think there was an anon here that shipped ararezi, here is a piece of that action

>>83945945
Holy Fucjk

>>83947452
yeah, she's still hot, even if she's a cunt

and gamzee is still an asshole

and that scene was still funny

>>83947384
that scene was so fucking funny though
one of the more amusing non-caliborn gags of act 6

>>83947524
Stop calling my waifu a "cunt" though, man.

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>>83947384

>>83947572
this is BKEW having an autism fit, correct?
>>83947509
YOU'RE WELCOME

>>83947557
i'm a british citizen, i have cunt privileges

>>83947384
Where's that Tumblr/DA post about a girl who thought that stoners were terrible people until she saw Gamzee?

>>83947606
You, sir, do not because Aranea is a special flower who can never be insulted.
>>83947610
No idea.

>>83945291
They're all pretty flawed, honestly.

John is extremely clueless and an optimist to a fault. He got godly powers and couldn't use them without a batshit crazy troll girl showing him.

Roxy was an alcoholic and can't really take things seriously, until her mother dies in front of her.

Sollux is extremely bitter and cynical, and blames himself for Aradia's death.

(Vriska) sure isn't one, but Vriska may be the only correct answer, she's a bitch who doesn't receive any consequences.

Aradia as a ghost couldn't feel anything, and as a robot, she was apathetic and violent all in one.

Of course, most of the characters have gotten over their flaws but that's development. = )

>>83947661
You're nice. I like you. Though I think Roxy's character is really poorly handled.

>>83947678
Roxy was a great concept with very rocky execution. Though she was a victim of Act 6 and Hussie's catastrophic loss of motivation and sense, like everyone else.

>>83947610
>thought that stoners were terrible people until she saw Gamzee?
That's an odd but valid perspective. Gamzee was definitely a fairly good person at the beginning when he had sopor slime. Of course, he also went murderously insane due to a combination of a religion that glorifies bloodshed, a crisis of faith, a genetic predisposition towards extreme violence, and a demonically-possessed puppet, but that doesn't really relate to the whole "stoner" angle.

>>83947739
What concept was it? Like, the alcoholism or what?

>>83947743
Gamzee made it painfully clear Hussie has never been anything but maybe lightly drunk in his entire life

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>>83947506
Bless you anon <3

>>83947384
I don't have a picture of it, but there was this guy on reddit that cut himself because Gamzee was getting thrown around in a fridge in Collide.

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>>83947762
Yeah. Well, you know. Her being Kid Mom and how she'd interact with Rose, back when Rose still had an arc involving her fucked up delusions regarding everyone being out to get her and her hatred of her mother.

As is, she ended up blandly cheerful and her struggle with drinking poofed away along with Rose's.

She had a good start, though. A real good one. Raised with carpacians, hated the Empress, a kind of uncomfortably tense friendship with Jane, her issues with Dirk, and the idea she was the actual glue of the four with the other three being alternatives of psychotic or incompetent.

So good idea, but had sloppy and inconsistent execution before she melded into being Item Vendor for the plot.

>>83947825
Oh man, gamzee apologists are the worst.

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>>83947819
Yo

Actually I have no idea why I have this saved when my romance folder is like 10 images now

>>83947836
she also shared some bad judgment with rose, but that also disappeared really fast

>rose: let's start blowing stuff up
>roxy: let's make my friend's computer explode ;)

>>83947836
>>83947876
Her only major flaw was her drinking and then it disappeared. I'm kind of hard-pressed not say she didn't become a little Mary Sue-ish after that. She was probably one of the mostly poorly handled characters and least interesting conceptually.

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Homestuck has too many trolls, Hussie should have fused them down into just 6, have the 6 Ancesters be one half of the zodiac and the Dancesters be the other.

>>83947876
she never stopped having bad judgment

like wasting the ring of life on calliope

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>>83947876
I liked that, though. I liked that she was drunk, desperate, and afraid and couldn't get Jane to understand without resorting to something extreme. It was fucking stupid of her to do that but it showed she genuinely cared, when Jane was just this unbelievably unpleasant person who never stopped BEING unpleasant. I wanted more desperate Roxy doing really cool but dangerously dumb stuff to try to get someone to understand she cares about them and they just don't give a shit.

>>83947902
It would have been cool if Calliope was still sweet and all that but blatantly said "Hey Roxy I used you to complete this loop and end English, I don't actually feel anything for you at all you're basically a chess piece, thanks"

>>83947933
so even though she acts sweet, she's actually something of a smug sociopath?

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>>83947956
No. She's just what Hussie told us she was, but wrote very poorly - a deific alien who literally is incapable of feeling love or attachment to other people. Not so much smug sociopath as just sort of creepishly Cal-like with an eternal smile and genuine good words that have no actual feeling behind them. She just says it to mimic the people she's interested in and because it gets them to do what she needs to succeed.

Hussie just did a fucking garbage job of writing or conveying that, or gave up trying and dumped it all on Doomed Calliope.

>>83947980
>Describes human reproduction as exclusively heterosexual

W H A T

>>83947980
>used lynching references/imagery in comic
Let me guess, Terezi hanging her scalemates and Neophyte Redglare's death?

>>83947892
>She was probably one of the mostly poorly handled characters

You're underestimating how many poorly handled characters Homestuck has.

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>>83947864
Thank you man!

>>83947896
That is a good idea but who would Karkat fuse with

>>83948018
Well, pre-retcon then?

>>83948018
Half the reason I liked Roxy is because she was one of the *least* poorly handled of the mass

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>>83947896
Which Alternia trolls and which Beforus trolls would you keep? OR which Alternia trolls would you have as Ancestors and which Alternia trolls would you have as Dancesters?

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>>83948029
Nobody, he is too pure alone and it'd play up the mutant imagery

Just make his dancestor self a limeblood so he can feel even more messed up about his mutant blood

You know, the mutant plotline that never went anywhere or affected anything, like all of his plotlines

>>83947994
well, "good" cherubs seem to have a protective instinct

that doesn't mean they can actually empathize or make friends, or that they understand ethics in their pursuit of protection/justice

>>83948070
What trolls would I keep if Homestuck was just getting some wild rewrite? Out of all 24?

Karkat, Kanaya, Sollux, Feferi, Terezi. The rest can cease to exist.

>>83948070
>>83948071
Fuck I haven't give thin much thought, so it needs tons of working out like I don't know who gets fused with who, but still the comic would be better with less people

>>83948081
Yeah. Calliope should have had a much more eerily cosmic outlook on everything, and her protective instincts should have come across as the bumblings of a 10 year old deity denied her future, but still able to gamble a throw by acting extra-cosmic to all of paradox space through using the kids as pieces against Caliborn.

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>>83948112
Well yeah I'd have been perfectly happy with the original 4 and nobody else, but the dude has some weird hangups and a severe problem with cast bloat

Homestuck would have ended in 2013 and we'd all be bitching about Problem Sleuth 4 by now or whatever

>>83947836
>Roxy
>Item Vendor
I'm still disappointed by how easily and simply that plot point was resolved. The Matriorb was destroyed? No worries, Roxy can make a new one because her power is to make things. And there are no apparent limits or requirements apart from "it takes skill and effort", which always ends up seeming vague and arbitrary when you're dealing with omni-powers. From the way they explained it, Roxy could just create anything she wanted out of nothing; she doesn't even need to know what a Matriorb is to make one, let alone get any outside help, with the apparent exception of Calliope sitting in front of her.

It would have been nice if she would at least need a clear idea of what she was making, like if Kanaya came to her and explained what it looked and worked like, so she'd at least have something to focus on before pulling the "take the nothing out of nothing to get something" trick.

Or she could have to find some place to put the leftover nothing. Isn't the Rogue's whole thing to steal and redistribute their Aspect, not just destroy it?

Also, wasn't creating things supposed to be what Jake English does with his Hope powers? That's basically how they work: he believes in something so much that it becomes real. Why did Skaia even spawn him if another player can do everything he does better through the power of double negatives?

Actually, all the Nobles have creation-based powers, with Jane as the Maid of Life being able to revive the dead and create plants, and Dirk as the Prince of Heart making "splinters" of his own identity. It would have been nice if they all used their powers together on something.

>>83948136
Because of the whole zodiac and D/Ancestor thing 6 is the perfect number because you can cut the whole thing in half

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>12 aspects
>Could have had 4 kids, 4 trolls, then 4 r-kids and 4 r-trolls to cover all 12, giving each some unique role to play against the finale with Jack and English as each group is introduced

>>83948147
>It would have been nice if she would at least need a clear idea of what she was making, like if Kanaya came to her and explained what it looked and worked like, so she'd at least have something to focus on before pulling the "take the nothing out of nothing to get something" trick.

No see

That'd require her talking to Kanaya and exploring her past and plot line that's expressly forbidden

>>83948159
that's 16 characters for only 12 aspects

but yeah, if hussie could've controlled his scope boner, everyone would've been better off

>>83948159
Then we wouldn't have anyone sharing the same class or aspect to offer an alternative look into how they worked.

Whatever problems the cast bloat caused Homestuck, one benefit from it was showing how certain traits could be expressed differently by different people.

>>83948191
Don't forget that Piss is a canonical aspect that was never actually used in the comic

>>83947147
the outfit on that girl is weirdly the cutest

>>83948191
Oh wait I'm dumb, yeah, that's 16

We'd just need the 4/4/4 then, skip r-trolls, who fucking needs r-trolls anyways, what a goddamn waste of years, what a fucking colossol blundering fucking writing mistake to make when you're already juggling 12 useless shitwads you did nothing with

Could have folded Vriska into Terezi
Could have had Feferi have an actual plot by becoming the Meenah
Could have written something waaaaay more compelling with one troll going betrayer to join Caliborn

I could go on for days, and I still sit here and laugh at the screen every time I remember Hussie spewing that writing is way easy compared to drawing

>>83948046
Maybe she's more likeable but in every other sense, nah.

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>>83948228
>Breath/Light/Time/Space
>Life/Void/Heart/Hope
>Leaves Blood/Doom/Mind/Rage
>Could have had a whole plot making a point of how the trolls had a 'failed' session because of Jack, but leave readers asking how they'd succeed with no Time/Space players
>Same with r-kids
>Could have made it a mega massive mobius quadruple reacharound by showing that they're meant to be one huge connected session
>Could have even tied Calliope and Caliborn into this by saying the dead session and the Land of Colours and Mayhem was the actual true shared Land for all 12 of kids and trolls in a Skaia backstab gotcha to Caliborn
>LOCAM could have been the final 'level' with the reward being taking the Earth-Land in a massive loop to a new universe where it's revived to one day die and host Caliborn, eternally rebecoming LOCAM
>could have blown our fucking minds with a cast of less than 50 fucking useless characters

>>83948246
>Heir of Piss
>Seer of Piss
>Knight of Piss
>Witch of Piss
>Page of Piss
>Maid of Piss
>Mage of Piss
>Rogue of Piss
>Sylph of Piss
>Bard of Piss
>Prince of Piss
>Muse of Piss
>Lord of Piss
Just sit there and think deeply about what each and every one of these would do.

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>>83948254
Thank you! I'm not a very fashionable person in real life, so sometimes I wonder if the outfits I draw look as aesthetically pleasing as I think they do

>>83948256
I kind of like the fact that all the humans have different Classes and Aspects but most of the trolls share them with some of the humans. It's good at conveying the notion that the human sessions were designed to be two parts of a greater whole, while the troll sessions are something separate that was interacting with them.

>>83948371
You're welcome anon, I think you have p. good tastes
you can always try dressin' up for me, bb

John/alone is best ship

>>83948246
Wasn't Gent a class too?

>>83948390
Sure was

>>83948368
Was there a fanmade color palette? What colors would you use? Hope already uses a lot of yellow

>>83948368
>Made of piss
>Can see the future in the toilet bowl
>Fights with piss
>Expands or contracts piss
>Will piss, one day, and what a day that'll be
>Literally made of piss
>Who knows where the piss goes
>Taking the piss
>No more kidney stones or faulty plumbing
>Piss everywhere
>PISSED OFF
>Has to piss really bad, all the time
>Pisses, all the time

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>>83948393
The symbol would be yellow of course. The outfit I'd reason would involve pleasant porcelain shades.

>>83948391
What would Gent of Piss be?

>>83948418
Woah hey I am really into this, like a lot, but blueboard dude come on

>>83948418
THIS IS HIGHLY ILLEGAL.

>>83948418
this is some ugly porn

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>>83948382
Oh anon~ But I'm a taken drawanon, it would never work!

Why not turn the trolls into humans

>>83948418
no...aradia...how could she do this...

>>83948448
Of course it could work, I have a big heart, and a big gun!
>>83948418
this is immoral get this out of here pure girls only

>>83948470
she is a huge slut

>>83948449
I think that would make their lives better for all of the still living trolls except Vriska

Seers are sensing you masturbating.

Seer of Time: Goes to your room when you're not home and rewinds to see when you were fapping.
Seer of Space: They just can see you fapping. Simple.
Seer of Void: They can see your porn stash and history, even when you delete it.
Seer of Light: They know when it's the luckiest time to see you fap without getting caught.
Seer of Mind: They know when you're thinking of fapping, and what you're thinking of fapping to.
Seer of Heart: They know which porn you love the most.
Seer of Rage: They know the fetishes you're most conflicted about.
Seer of Hope: They can sense when you're hoping for someone you could bone.
Seer of Doom: They know when you fuck up while fapping, like messing up your keyboard.
Seer of Life: They can sense when all your seed are dying.
Seer of Blood: They can sense when you've got a boner.
Seer of Breath: They can hear even the tiniest sounds of porn from anywhere.

>licking troll pussy juice colors your tongue

>>83948541
if troll blood has enough pigment to be used as paint, that shit would stain everything

no wonder trolls mostly wear black and their blood color, they're the two things that won't stain easily.

>>83948449
Because then John can impregnate them

>>83948523
Rose and Terezi knowing when I masturbate? I don't mind at all.

>>83948560
and yet their blood would show like goddamn paint even on black shirts

troll blood is like some shitty mega dye

>>83947678

Aw, thank you bby.

I do feel like she suffered after the retcon, being pushed aside. After Game Over we saw her at her worst, but we also saw genuine emotion.

>>83948580
oh shit, that's right

>>83948616
evoking emotion by killing characters is shallow as fuck

hussie doesn't know how to write real drama

he came close with jane's breakdown, but it went nowhere

>>83948563
>All trolls become Human Women
I give it a week until they all had a little Egbert in them

>>83948630
Homestuck is so rife with death it feels like a vague and bizarre fetish

But yeah Jane being a cunt to Roxy went nowhere fast

>>83948616
Gosh, the plotting near the end got real bad.

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>>83947452
I don't understand, why would Dirk be hated more if he were a sexy, sexy lady?

>>83948663
standard internet misogyny/gay-bashing?

>>83948663
because he would be a woman

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i heard you guys like pregnant jade :)

>>83948663
Because Tumblr thinks everyone would hate a manipulative asshole if they were female though their treatment of the characters blatantly disproves this.
>>83948677
:|

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>>83948472
But anon, I ship Davekat. Are you sure you want to go down this road?

>>83948689
>I CAN'T WAIT FOR MY HUSBAND'S SON!

>>83948716
Baby, I get the horns, you get the shades, we can walk fuh days,

>>83948689
this is pretty good

you should do more

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>>83948697
Do they hate Vriska?

I WAS NOT RAPED TODAY!

>>83948616
You, uh, wanna' be friends?

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>>83948720

>>83948751
Most don't but the vast majority hate Gamzee. This is kind of thing is apparently such a trend that even the Homestuck Tumblr community felt obligated to bring it up.

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>>83948751
>it's just Rose

The Strilondes should have made a career of imitating one another to hilarious effect

>>83948743
thanks. any requests?

>>83948773
Upload this to reddit!