Phantom Lady thread

>>83935559

Is it just one guy making these threads?

I liked her in the Palmiotti FF stuff

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>>83935559
Eh, she's no Ruby Thursday.

>>83935592
It's the first time he's seen an exposed female form cut him some slack.

How can I show love if I don't even know her?

>>83935592
Yes...

>>83935559
What's her powers and what does she do?

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>>83935687
She has these power bands that lets her see through stuff and makes her invisible.
>what does she do
Spy stuff mostly.

http://pdsh.wikia.com/wiki/Phantom_Lady

Had no idea she was (kind of) public domain. Maybe you can write an ongoing with her OP

>>83935592
I think it started as one guy and then other Phantom Lady fans started showing up. The discussions are always about either boobs or copyright laws

>inb4 owl shows up with encyclopedic knowledge of Phantom Lady's rights and publication history

>>83935819
>that fourth panel
nice

>>83935819
Which is actually pretty cool considering the time she was made in. The character is seen nowadays as this lewd fanservice team pussy type but her original stories had her busting up crime rings and solving mysteries.

The further back you go the better the stories get, oddly. The Dee Tyler stories are mostly tripe, though.

>>83936315
Could they get any bigger?

>his face
>"I w-wanna shoot but..."

>>83935819
Chuck Austen should make porn again.

>>83936575
Chuck Austen is busy making hideous cg cartoons. The story itself is bazonkers. Her dad is an Attorney General and the mafia blackmails him with pictures of when he """"accidentally"""" helped the KKK lynch someone. Phantom Lady mostly goes around getting in bar fights, kicking dogs, and melting peoples' eyes, too.
Chuck Austen should stay far, far away from her.

>>83935592
I'm like 90% sure DC shills are testing to see if /co/mblr would freak out over a new Phantom Lady Rebirth series. If you search the archive there's like five references to Phantom Lady, mostly links from the Nu52 series in win-o-threads, and then around last month a bunch of people started wanting to know about Phantom Lady.

>>83935592

it has to be right? it's getting weirder and creepier as it goes on

>>83935687
Actually depends on the version of the character, the Phantom Lady is a mantle that's been passed between 5 different women. Usually she turns invisible and/or generates field of darkness, but there's also been energy blasts, intangibility, illusions, and teleportation.

Which, again - now she's seen as the Ms. Fanservice of any team she's on but at the time they came up with her this was actually a big step forward for female characters with how she did all sorts of spy stuff.

>>83936988

if dc cared about /co/ we'd have Captain Marvel and Legion already

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Sure why not.

>>83937194
>>83937212
>>83937238
>>83937252
This would've been much better sequence without the narration boxes.

>>83937135
I'm not saying they care just that they advertise heavily here (like the threads with the creepy Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman looking at Jon in the new Rebirth issue) and want to see if... uhhh progressive sites lose their shit over the chauvinism and misogyny that defines the character.
O shill spirits hear me, if a new Phantom Lady is in the works please honor the past characters and don't just make a new ____ Knight that disappears in four issues.

>>83937162
>that outfit
>that hair
DOA

>>83935559
I'd show her some love.


What, nobody else said it!

>>83937373
>>83937393
Dane is a little bitch

>>83935592
At this point, I don't think so. I am the onewho make this thread and you know what, show some love for theFreedomFighters, Plastic Man and others Golden age heroes, they deserved.

>>83937544
>>83937595
>Phantom Lady is still tied up and waiting for her male costar to come save her
I guess I can respect the homage but ehhh

>>83937162
Thanks anon

>>83935745
Her gazongas look absolutely humongous there

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>>83937700
This

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>>83937717
You welcome anon.

>>83935639
That's not true!I have seen some female exposure in the past, coming from your mom.

>>83937678
"Magic energy powers! You can make anything you want to with them!"
>guns
That's probably a Blue Bulleteer reference but why do characters with that power always make guns?

>>83937847
>funerella
Well that's just a dumb name.

This suddenly started kicking ass.

>>83938124
>you people really need to work on your banter!
Those in glass houses...

>>83938240
So does that mean there's a pile of people waking up with missing, bleeding limbs?

>>83938422
>tfw you will never roll around in Phantom Lady's panties after a night of sweaty crime-fighting
why live

I'm not sure what this is but it seems alright.

>>83938557
The villain sucks tho

>>83938587
The villain just chainsawed someone to pieces in his office
The other villain is a ghost zombie thing that wears suits
Which one are you saying sucks?

>>83938625
The crime boss tho that zombie chick ain't winning any prizes either

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>>83938625
>the villain just chainsawed someone to pieces
That doesn't make him a good villain.

>>83938699
No, but it makes him a *cool* villain.

Thanks for storytiming, OP. This was a weird ride. Were there any more Jen Lady stories after this?

>>83938748
That all of for her and a appearance on the human bomb mini. http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Jennifer_Knight_(Prime_Earth)/Appearances

>>83938940
I'd read this

>>83938861
It had some nice homages to parts of the old series and the way they introduced the Freedom Fighters was cool. Turning the Manlet into a two-gun rocket man was more fun than I thought it'd be. Sales on this must have been so low for them not to follow up with a Freedom Fighters series. The next time Phantom Lady showed up was in Convergence and it's an unnamed Sandra Knight in an alternate earth so it looks like this is the last time we'll ever see Jen.

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DCAU freedom fighters comic only

>>83939378
Whispering behind Superman?

>>83937162
I'm sad we didn't get nu52 Freedom Fighters
This mini was good, glowing korean guy was good, the other one I can't recall the name was good.
And then poof, building up for something that didn't happen.

>>83939307
>Phantom Lady suit
Why this isn't her regular outfit?

>>83939322
>my kid's a League member!

Who's he talking about? I don't anything about the Ray.

>>83935559
Phantom Lady is my waifu and you can't have her.

>>83937648
>You wont be shrunk and be stuck in Phantom Lady's outfit all day.

>>83939500
The public domain version of the character wears that so they don't want to build up a brand that other people can use hence Jen's purple and black and yellow costume and different powers. Or they just want to try something new each time.

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>>83939734
>>83939734
Poor Sam :(

I've never heard of Phantom Lady before but I'm slowly becoming a fan. Thanks OP

>>83939719
Yeah that's the original Quality Comics' outfit, which DC bought the rights to. Was before the switch the Fox Syndicate outfit that Matt Baker drew.

>>83939984
>>83939719
aaaaaaand now comes the copyright talk. I think it would be better if DC just owned her so they didn't have to make changes all the time.

>>83940046
They pretty much do. AC Comics has her as Laura Wright, either as Nightveil or the Blue Bulleteer. Or just straight re-prints of anything post-quality.

>>83940179
THat's neat so anyone could make a Phantom Lady comic? How is she not the darling of webcomic artists everywhere?

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>>83940321
Obviously there are rules to what you can and can't do with her, but pretty much. Bill Black owns a previously unpublished story of PL, which he altered to give her an even more ample bosom.

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>>83939719
This one?

>>83940561
Yes ,that's her original outfit from Police Comics.

>>83938502
>>83939632
Honestly if she 's not SandraIam not interested.

>>83940636
Ok, now I am even more confused. Police comics? Wasn't Quality comics?

>>83940561
I like the one with all the cleavage more...

>>83940540
So the joke about who owns her boobs is true.

>>83940704
I am not*
>>83940778
Me too anon, me too.

>>83940763
Quality was the Publisher, Police Comics, the title she and Plastic man debuted in.

>>83939452
On the bright side we did get them in convergence

I hope if they do another batch of continuity changes after the Manhattan event in 2018, that we get the ongoing again. I really liked that Freedom Fighters book before flashpoint.

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>>83940704
>SandraIam
Who?

>>83940962
Wiki says it was an anthology book that had different stories in the same issue. Why did comics stop doing that? The most I can think of DC's Wednesday comics from a few years ago

>>83940540
still not big enough

>>83941053
>>Headlights

>>83941053
see >>83940856

>>83941053
sweet jaysus in heaven

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>>83941094
I hope this is big enough for you.

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>>83941206
You should be thanking this genius.

>>83941352
He was... black? I thought early comics was all white or jewish

>>83935559

/co/ I must see the future or something because I've really been into Phantom Lady lately and all the sudden now there are threads about her...

>>83941752
We're all tapped into the collective consciousness of the internet, the hivemind. Just kidding. It's her boobs, right? We're all here for the boobs.

>>83941828
I am here because I read the Convergence tie in and since I am fan of the Freedom Fighters. I just discovered the boobs detail two weeks ago.

>>83941687
Most were. He was the first really successful one, or at least the one that people remember the most. Died at 37, most likely from working with Stan-cula.

>>83935559
>>83888923

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>>83941828
Boobs, here.

>>83941928
>that choppy crazy autistic english
Pretty good summary, though.

>>83942050
I was gonna insult you but you are right.

>>83942103
oh shit I meant >>83941987 this person
Your english is beautiful, anon.

>>83942006
Those ones are smaller and it's not the same. I need deviantart sized bozooms she's struggling to hold up, I need them to be so large her face is always in a strained state of agony because her spine is crushing itself. Larger, more, now.

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What I know so far is
>Original character is Sandra Knight, who is from Quality comics and first appeared in Police Comics
>Then DC bought Quality and Quality characters likeThe Freedom Fighters were moved to earth-two, then to earth-x and later to earth one
>CoIE happens
>Characters are now located on New Earth
>Sandra Knight still exists and she some vigilante with a skimpy outfit
>She retires and Dee Tyler is the new Phantom Lady
>It was stated she opened an agency to train spies
>Years later Stormy Knight makes her debut in ''Battle for Bludhaven''
>Has/share the same background with the first Phantom Lady (the new earth version) but isn't related to Sandra Knight
>None retcon was never done
>Has some problems with alcohol, tries to kill herself but fail
>Disappears
>New 52 happens
>Now we have Jennifer Knight, who has some similarities with Sandra and Stormy
>We got glimpses for a possible Freedom Fighters but that's all
>The character disappears (again)
>Rebirth happens and there's no sight of any Freedom Fighters ongoing or even a mention of them

>>83942585
>Then DC bought Quality and Quality characters like The Freedom Fighters were moved to earth-two, then to earth-x and later to earth-one*
>Sandra Knight still exists and she is some vigilante with a skimpy outfit*
>It was stated she (Sandra) opened an agency to train spies*
>Has some problems with alcohol, tries to kill herself but fails*
God, I need to improvemy english
Also
>It doesn't matter which version of the character is, she always have the best boobs (or the bigger boobs)

>>83942707
>mfw Phantom boobs are bigger than power boobs

>>83942707
>>83942585
She was in a two issue tie-in to Convergence and an alternate Earth 10 where the Freedom Fighters were like terrorists fighting Overman's regime, too.

>/co/ is unfucking Phantom Lady's canon

>>83942786
Canon and continuity fag here. I was trying to figure out how is her background and legal situation so far. I know parts of her are public domain and other versions of the character appeared outside DC after DC bought Quality.

>>83942786
>The Convergence issues
She is the earth-two versions of the character, the most remotely close to the original (Quality) version.
>alternate earth 10
Multiversity. Basically, earth-10 after the reboot

>DC will never make a monthly where the Earth 10 Freedom Fighters battle Nazi Justice League

>>83942897
Usually owl drops in for a hoot and clears up copyright questions but I think it usually goes:

You can use the character and the name and the costume but you can't use any of that in promotional material, so you can't use the words Phantom Lady on a cover. DC also owns parts of the character like her goggles and yellow and green costume but the red and blue are public domain. I'm not sure how much DC owns and I don't think they are either and that's why she keeps showing up as either a diff character or as just Phantom Lady with no real name or backstory.

>>83943060
Damnit. Thanks for the info anon. Phantom Lady is a great character outside the looks. The first incarnations were the best, she felt like a training spy.

>>83943059
>DC will never make an ongoing for earth 10, earth 5 or earth ''The Metal Men is the The Justice League''

>>83942897
Quality never really fully owned PL. She was made by Iger/Eisner studios who created the content for many different publishers. When Quality went out of business, Iger/Eisner shifted her over to Fox Syndicated.

>>83943212
Right, so that's why DC can't use the red and blue suit
>There will never be a Capcom vs DC
>You will never play with Phantom Lady
>Capcom won't ge tin troublesfor using her red and blue suit

>>83943212
Wait so it was a studio who would lease her out to publishers... so can DC even really own Phantom Lady? Wouldn't that mean she's actually fully public domain?
That would explain
>>83943060
If they know they can't really hold onto her then of course they would just drag her around and put her in the background every couple years.

>>83943314
Honestly, I want to solve this because I just want to read good stories about some highly trained spy who can pass through thinks and have big boobs.
If the solution is DC having the complete rights of the character or her going full public domain then so be it.

>>83943452
things*
has big boobs*

>>83943452
>>83943475
Pass through thinks is right.

Going full public domain is impossible, do you have any idea how much WB's lawyers would fight to keep control of ANYTHING under their umbrella? The reason Sony and Fox won't let go of their movie rights is because everyone knows that having a superhero with any amount of recognition is like owning a money factory. It doesn't even matter what kind of quality gets put out people will buy it and they'll retain the rights. Even if there's a spectacular failure like F4 they know it's better to keep the property and just try again in a few years.
Superheroes are literally golden egg laying gooses.

Dc probably lets anyone use the character for a cameo like in Savage Dragon but if you were to set up shop with a Phantom Lady book they would sue you. Even if technically, legally, they have no grounds or rights to do so.

>>83943583
Sony and Fox won't let go of their Marvel movie rights*

Fuck we're both starting to slip lol

>>83943583
You know, when I think about Fox and Sony it's pretty dumb to me. I mean, with Fox it's like having a cake for you but it's and small cake compared to Marvel/Disney cake. If Fox executives weren't so greedy they would have a fair piece of a bigger cake. And Sony it's just a bunch of greedy dummies who wanted to to do what Marvelis doing with itscinematic universe but without trying and lerning from the failure. I know, Fox won't own his small cake but what is an small cake compare to a piece to almost the same size. Maybe this is retard but that's what I think.

>>83943780
>>83943780
fuck my keyboard*

>>83935745
Christ. Is she bigger than PG?

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>>83943855
Depends on who's drawing her

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>>83943855
Sometimes yes

>>83943855
She is. But I am more impressed about how much her hairstyle changes.

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>>83943855
Sometimes yesser

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>>83943855
And then sometimes even more yesser

>>83943971
This is both retard and hot.
9/10 because I don't like her haircut.

>>83939509
second panel was just an excuse to draw PLs boobs, wasn't it?

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Copyright laws and boobs
Every time

>>83944163
They're all excuses to draw her boobs, anon-kun. If Phantom Lady is public domain why aren't her boobs behind every character in every panel of every comic? It seems a sure way to increase sales.

>>83942321
if i wasn't sleepy i would do this anon
its what i live for

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>>83935559

>>83944193
i would love to do that
make a comic where the heroines huge bosom is in every panel in even the slightest way

>>83944230
>>83944289
Fucking do it faggots. Especially you.

>>83937660
Fuck Yeah

>>83944140
Who was the better legacy hero? Dee Tyler was a trained spy who took down cartels blackmailing gov officials. Silk Spectre established a utopia with Ozymandias.
Dee was maybe a better superhero but for all her faults Laurie was able to not fuck up the New World Order put up by Ozy even though she knew it was all bullshit.

If there is a draw anon here, please, show us your skills. I will apreciate it, /co/ will do the same.

>>83944388
>Who was the better legacy hero?
Dinah JR

>>83944443
this

>>83935745
Lewd

>>83944613
Thank you

>>83944000
Is that The Goon?

>>83943934
>>83943971
>>83944140
>>83944246
Goddamn. You know, I didn't find this outfit sexy on Silk Spectre, but goddamn it looks amazing here.

>>83944443
Damn it no, between those two.
Even though you're right.

I'd say that it's impossible to be less impressive than Laurie but... what did Dee even do besides stand around with her tits out and get rekt in IC?

>>83944246
Everyone is talking about her boobs but that picture leads to me to believe she may in fact also have a spectacular ass hidden by that emerald cloak of hers.

>tfw you'll never be on the Freedom Fighters helping Phantom Lady with problems
>"Anon is my visor straight"
>"Anon can you help me get these boots off"
>"Anon do you like this new shade of yellow"
Fuck

>>83944862
Now I am sad

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>>83943986
I like it when they change up their looks, too. Especially fashion-conscious characters who don't really have an iconic classic costume so they make changing styles their aesthetic.

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>>83944246
Perfect.

>>83942499

>>83939594
>>83939647
rare phantom lady cameo in doom patrol

>>83945641
Cool

>>83943780
Well but with Phantom Lady it's a little different. Fox and Sony have contracts dictating what is and what isn't allowed to happen, how much money changes hands and to whom the portions go. With Phantom Lady you have a character who is only partly owned by a corporation who doesn't really do anything with her. She's far from being Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four but she's so important to the history of comics that they won't let her go. They're fucking themselves over by not capitalizing on properties like her and the Freedom Fighters.

Looking at the archive, there's a thread where anons were saying they wanted Phantom Lady and the Human Bomb on the Doom Patrol. I'm a canon fag (could you tell) so I don't want random people on the DP but those two would fit in pretty well and boost their profile. Way's new lineup already has a couple new OC's so why not bump a couple unknown F-Listers?

>>83939434
He can turn off his abilities, only thing that's ever made sense otherwise he'd kill a block of people with a fart or burp.

>>83935687
She canonically has the largest breasts of any superhero in the DCU. Bigger than Power Girl.

>>83947172
I need to see proof of that statement. Comparisons.

Also wtf even Power Girl complains about back problems. Phantom Lady's secret superpower must be that her back can support an infinite amount of weight.

>>83941687
>early comics was all white

Carl Barks was literally the ONLY major white figure in early comics. There were as many blacks as there were whites. The rest of the industry was literally 100% jews.

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>>83947262 #
>>83947172 #
>>83943855 #
Okay you fuckers can't even look at tits without asking for help so here we go:

Sandra vs Power Girl - it's close but considering how much tights compress your chest it looks like Power Girls' are bigger. Sandra has a better shape as it looks like without support Peej's would either become huge torpedo tits or sag.
Size: Power Girl
Shape: Phantom Lady

Dee Tyler vs Power Girl - The size is about the same for both but Power Girl's are farther apart than Phantom Lady's. I feel like both would have soft puffy nipples so this one comes down to shape. Dee's are simple closer together and look bigger because of it.
Size: Phantom Lady
Shape: Phantom Lady

Stormy Knight vs Power Girl - Stormy's are huge amd squeezed together they look even larger but nothing humanoid will ever have larger tits than Amanda Conner's Power Girl. However, those same tits look like massive balloon implants whereas Stormy's look soft and squishy.
Size: Power Girl
Shape: Phantom Lady

Jennifer Knight vs Power Girl - Noticeably smaller in the New 52, Power Girl has dropped to a mere D or comic book C cup whereas Jennifer's are so large they mash together when their only support is a loose low v neck jacket. Power Girl's new tits are also lumpy and deflated versions of their former selves, while Jen's are finding new ways to pop out of a Phantom Lady costume.
Size: Phantom Lady
Shape: Phantom Lady

In conclusion, Power Girl and Phantom Lady historically have about the same boob size but Phantom Lady consistently has a better shape and boob presence.

>>83937884

Comics, brah, comics.

>>83945892
I'm sure they've had many times in the past where a team has wanted to do something with her, with or without the FF. Alan Moore has twice created analogs of her in Cobbweb and Silk Spektre, simply because he was told he couldn't use Charlton owned / Golden Age characters. Charlton did own PL for a time but produced nothing new, only Fox reprints.

Who do you think would do her justice in rebirth?

>>83941053
Wertham's book was good for one thing, at least.

>>83949642
Making sure every Phantom lady original issue is £600+, due to the fact many copies were probably burnt.

>>83949748

Well, *I* was thinking of supplying surreptitious fap material...

>>83949816
Oh, well there's that to. Anyone got the Roy Thomas reprint collections? I bought Vol.1 off Amazon and they sent me both for some reason.

>>83935559
this costume is real similar to Vampirella without cape

>>83943934
>ywn party with her

>>83949975
It does.

>>83944302
you replied to me twice anon =)

https://youtu.be/_CO6iLJi5e4

>>83937162
Wow, they turned her into Danger Girl. How lame

>>83953375
A little. Sad she banished.

Best fap bait in the history of comics.

Frank Cho drawn porn comic when?

>>83954058
This please.

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>>83954058
Your google-fu is weak, anon

>>83954649
>>83954661
Her "dark light" that makes shit pitch black is an awesome weapon.

There's no way they could use that kind of costume anymore. Not without it being a pure porn comic or done ironically (like "look at how sexist female charac ters used to be"). I'm sorry to be a wet blanket, but that's how it is.

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>>83954922
Agreed. And is sort of unique. I can't think of another hero who has that power.

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>>83955050
Black Canary went back to her classic looks. Goodbye Jim Lee.

>>83955050
>no fun allowed
Fuck you're right. Phantom Lady is die.

>>83948028
Thanks my african american

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>>83945641
>>83942925
>Mfw Drake wrote some Plastic Man issues

>>83948028
>this much autism

>>83945892
That's something that was bugging me too. Characters like Phantom Lady, The Human Bomb or even Plastic Man would fit pretty good on the Doom Patrol. The only one who can choose if they would fit or not it's Way. At this point with Rebirth I think retcons would serve.

>>83947262
I like how you think
>>83935722
underrated post

>>83955226
Whe are just having fun anon, don't be butthurt.

>>83949639
I hope Gerard Way. I hope retcons like Stormy been related to Sandra or been actually Jennifer.

>>83955134
Not under my watch anon. I won't allow this!

>>83954661
I want this in Injustice so badly...

>>83955419
Chill out, almost no one has posted anything ''offensive'' or too ''sexist''. Some of us actually like her not for the looks but for her powers or the fact she is one the first women in comics.

I am the only one who wants a Freedon Fighters ongoing just to see what Plas would do to be around her?

>>83955419
You would freak out if you see how was WW on her origins.

>>83955562
There is a research essay on who has the biggest boobs in comics about ten posts up. How is that not sexist or offensive?

>Some of us actually like her not for the looks but for her powers or the fact she is one the first women in comics.
As shown by all the amazing discussion about female characters in comics. Animals, all of you.

>>83955686
That's like what? ten anons of all the posters. I like the character not for the boobs., but that's me, I can't talk for the others.

>>83955723
I like both.
Pretty sure offended anon is taking the piss.
Man or Woman being sexy and dressed to impress isn't sexist, and neither is enjoying it.

>>83955604
You sound like you have some ideas on the direction that story could go, anon. You should share.

>>83955881
He is right at certain point but that's all. I don't know what anon would think of Flex Mnetallo.
>Big man with muscles on the muscles and only wearing an spandex

>>83955686
Yo need to chill anon. Phantom Lady is from an age were sexism was something normal. The looks is just secondary when you get on her stories.

>>83955986
The story above has Doll Man following her around constantly asking if he can jerk off to her. Wow, there have been so many improvements since 1841.

>>83955881
>Pretty sure offended anon is taking the piss.
Fuck off. I just hate seeing spew like this bumped on /co/ every fucking day. You're all disgusting.

>>83955723
Then you should post more about what you like in the character or encourage an actual discussion about modern fem heroes and their importance in civilized society because this thread just reads like a bunch of teenagers looking at a Playboy they found in the woods.

>>83955934
That'd be OK tho, women don't find muscles and such sexy, thats why the Chipendales are extinct, Magic Mike failed at the cinema and Firemen calanders aren't available every year. Its just a male power fantasy.

I love the story where she is investigating a murder using a shoe to identify the killer. She breaks into the prime suspect's house, locks her bedroom door, and then proceeds to go back out, just to clime in her window.

>>83956103
This may blow your mind, but it is possible to find someone sexually attractive, and even find pleasure in seeing them dressed as such, and still not think of them as an object or a thing. You may find this difficult, must of us don't.
Good luck on trying to be a better person.
Addendum - Do you go into the many Beefcake threads and complain? Just curious.

>>83956228
Beefcake threads are mostly homosexual men comparing cartoon bulges and butts, they're harmless. They haven't subtly tried to brainwash little girls into thinking they have to conform to or become rigid stereotypical concepts defining what a woman has to be in order to be seen as attractive/valuable. It's soft fascism as enforced by a culture of leering perverts who get indignant when someone calls them on their shit. It's poison and belongs in the dark ages.
Flex Mentallo is a deconstruction of the male power fantasy, he's a big strong he-man who comes to encourage the depressed lanky main character into embracing their inner superhero. The story is fully aware of how ridiculous Supermans and beefcakes are. It focuses on why we have these characters in our comics, our society.
It's a two way street, and while Phantom Lady has the potential to be a female Flex Mentallo right now, and historically if you look at her publication runs, she's just titties and ass.

https://youtu.be/_CO6iLJi5e4

>>83956518
>they're harmless
and yet you've pointed out a post comparing boobs (assuming you are indeed offended anon) in this very thread, so its OK to compare males, but not females
>mostly homosexual men
quite the assumption perhapss we're all just so intouch with our awesome straightness we're comfortable checking out the other guys girth
>subtly tried to brainwash
full conspiracy ahead, nobody is trying to brainwash little girls into anything, anymore that He-man was trying to brainwash me into getting a basin cut
>its a two way street
at yet you seem to insist on arguing its OK to do it to men, but rage when its done to women, how about its OK to do both, y'know, like an actual two way street
>culture of leering perverts
do i really need to explain how admiring a persons appearance and the dehumanising objectification you seem to think is everywhere are several magnitudes different, you portray this thread as comparable to back alley sex trafficking, if any one thing prevents you from being taken seriously its this.

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>>83957042
I'm not comparing this to back alley sex trafficking I'm saying that when publishers like DC and their parent companies like Time Warner offer products which pander to a lolcheesecake consuming audience it creates a marketplace where the only thing on shelves, in theaters, in corporate-sponsored art, is sexualized barbies. This creates the illusion that these are the only kinds of femininity allowed by society ergo people will grow up trying to match those ideals. It isn't a conspiracy, it's a side effect of generations of cultural inbreeding as influenced by a very sexist media and society. Of course I would want it to be a freely open two way street but right now that kind of diversity is as pandering as the cheesecake garbage-- the progressivism isn't real it's just more fantasy bullshit Disney and Time Warner and CBS want to sell you. It's either shock tactics or escapist fantasy, they fuck you both ways when they're the ones who own the road.

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>>83957626
I can't believe I'm saying this but /tv/ has a couple threads up right now discussing this in a roundabout way.

For example:
>Who was the better character?

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Sure why not again. I know is plastic man storytime But a nice Freedom fighters reunion.

>>83958090
I love this story

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>>83956518
>>83957626

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>>83958127
Same

>>83957626
what you speak of can't take root like that anymore thanks to the power of the internet.
If anything the culture at large gets a nice loudspeaker internet yell that pandering cheesecake is fantasy bullshit and a demand to shame those that say otherwise.

>>83957973
....why is it hotter when I imagine that if she tries to use her powers to get out, the restraints stay on and bind her in phantom form