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So now that the dust has settled, X-Men Apocalypse has come out and been panned by everyone (it has a lower Rotten Tomatoes score than X-Men the Last Stand, Man of Steel, and The Amazing Spider-Man 2). It's the second lowest X-Men movie just above Wolverine Origins.
Meanwhile, Deadpool is loved by everyone and breaking records.

What can Fox do to fix X-Men like Tim Miller and Ryan Reynolds fixed Deadpool? What did Deadpool do right that X-Men Apcoalypse did so wrong?
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>>83931835
Why should people give a fuck about Rotten Tomatoes?
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>>83931856
Because bad movies tend to get more bad reviews than good movies.
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>>83931856
Because bad RT score equals Bad Movie.
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>>83932102
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They just need to dial back from "end if the world!" and focus more on the characters and their interactions. That's what made DP, First Class and DoFP successful and where Apocalypse failed.
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>>83931835
>What can Fox do to fix X-Men like Tim Miller and Ryan Reynolds fixed Deadpool?
Get someone who actually likes and respects the X-Men to make the movies. Deadpool was good because it's made by people who actually like and respect Deadpool. X-Men Apocalypse is made by Singer, who hates comic books. He even told his actors not to read the comics before. He considers himself better than Morrison and Claremont. He takes more from the Matrix movies than the X-Men source. He thinks Rolan Emmerich/MoS destruction porn is still cool. And he can't write good female characters to save himself.

Fox really needs fresh blood for the X-Men movies.
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>>83931835
Fox should stop raping the X-Men and just give the rights back to Marvel.

That way we can have Wolverine and Captain America teaming up in WW2.

And Spider-Man teaming up with Firestar and Iceman.

And Beast on the Avengers.

And Rogue vs Carol.

And Peter Parker dating Kitty Pryde.

And World War Hulk.

And Black Panther dating Storm.

And Avengers vs X-Men.
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Hire someone who has a better eye for the cast.

Cyces is a manlet, Beast is too thin, Jean has a bigger forehead than Xavier, etc,etc.

They should put the guy playing Beast playing Cykes.
They should put the guy playing Jean playing Beast.
They should put the guy playing Cykes doing catering.

It's fucking 2016 and we still haven't had a legit group-focused X-men movie. It's always about the actors, and even then, every single line they are given in Apocalypse seems to be made for a trailer with how generic they feel. Stop fucking around and try, at least.
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>>83932217
>>83932386
Waiter! These pastas are stale.
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>>83932215
what made first class successful was it was so damn campy people went to go see it so they could trash the damn movie

if you think xmen first class was a good movie unironically you need to go back to /lit/ were plebs hang out

laser hula hoop... thats all i have to say
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>>83932408
>They should put the guy playing Beast playing Cykes.
this this this this this this this this
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>>83931835
Maybe Fox should just give up and hire Michael Bay to make all their X-Men movie. They'll still be shit, but will at least make money (you are now imagining Sentinels as over-designed metal trash and Nightcrawler as a 8'0 blue shrek crossed with a black person).

Or maybe they can hire Zack Snyder since they love destruction porn where billions die and the killer gets away and everyone forgives him.
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>>83932756
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>>83931835
get Whedon to make the next X-Men movie!
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>>83932846
>more cyclops cucking.
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>>83932386
>Black Panther dating Storm
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>>83931835
>we will never have a based Rightclops movie
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I hope that they just make New Mutants a sleepover party at the Mansion gone wrong, kind of story. I don't need the world to end, I just want some characters other than Xavier, Mags, Wolverine, and Mystique to root for.
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>>83931835
Wooops.
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>>83931835
I hope they don't mess with Deadpool 2 because of Apocalypse's shittyness.
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>>83931835
RT doesn't mean fucking shit as a rule, but the movie did still have its problems. They just need that same passion Deadpool did, and have fun with the property
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>>83933584
>RT doesn't mean fucking shit
It shows if your movie is good or bad.
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>>83934168
see
>>83932102

I know your trolling anyway.
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>>83931931
>>83932102

>tend to

It's okay first anon

There's at least one other person here who still knows how to read.
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>>83934334
If you have to qualify a statement, it's not a true statement.
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>>83934190
>le Force Awakens is bad meme
/tv/ pls leave

Even Red Letter Media loved the movie. Only cucks like you and Max Landis hate it.
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>>83934573
It is the worst blockbuster ever made in terms of amount of creativity on display.
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>>83932102
the force awakens was a good movie and people liked and enjoyed it

get over it
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>>83934655
>the force awakens was a good movie
'no'
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>>83934679
yes
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I like to think only good things are going to come out after wolverine 3.

Like new mutants, one of te best teen team.

Deadpool 2 with cable and maybe Domino

X-force probably with Remender team.

I am even a little hype for Gambit.
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>>83932102
>roughly 90% of people thought TFA was above a 5/10
Sounds right to me. Quit posting this as if it's proof of anything just because it contradicts your contrarian opinion. In order for that image to prove anything I'd first have to be convinced that your opinion is anything above shit.
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>>83934634
>It is the worst blockbuster ever made in terms of amount of creativity on display.

No, that would be Fox's Fantastic Four by Trank.
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>>83932102
People like Force Awakens, me personally

Did it have flaws, of course. Rey going full Mary Sue once she gets kidnapped by Kylo Ren, wasted characters like Poe and Phasma, playing it safe by retreading New Hope. But I enjoyed it all the same.
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>>83934903
No?
It was clearly going for a Cronenberg style body horror thing that the studio just fucked up.
FF was much more enjoyable to watch, as much of a shitfest as it was.
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>>83935067
To be honest, even before the meddling Trank was just not co-operating at all. Meaning in a rare instance it was both his and the studios fault.
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Wait everyone hates X-Men: apocalypse now? I didn't think it was that bad.
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>muh critics
>muh score

Apocalyse is the 2nd most successful X-Men movie... "what went wrong" more like "what went so fucking right"
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>>83935371
'Singer is bad' a neo-/co/ meme.
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>>83935373
>Apocalyse is the 2nd most successful X-Men movie
Actually, It's the second to last X-Men movie to make the least amount of money.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=xmen.htm

Deadpool is still their highest money maker.
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>>83936320
>Domestic
FTFY
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>>83935371
Not bad, but it's really mediocre and average, and it's worse considering the previous X-Men movie is one of the best.
Seems like no one was interested in this movie.
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>>83935371
Because it's shit? The action was terrible, the cgi was ugly, the story was boring, JLaw gave a half-assed performance, Fassbender was overacting, Magneto's boring dead family took up a third of the movie, and they interupt the movie to show a blatant commercial for Wolverine 3 (I'm surprised they didn't flash the text RESERVE YOUR TICKETS NOW!).
>>83935422
Singer is a product of the past. The same generation as the Matrix and Roland Emmerich. He's old.
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>>83935373
>what went so right
>made 250 million less than the previous entry
>critically panned
>everyone agrees the movie is just a bunch of nothing

I agree, someone please ask what went right because I'm not sure.
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>>83936554
Meanwhile Deadpool is breaking records and kicking ass and everyone loves him.

They should just have Deadpool lead the X-Men. Call them the D-Men.
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>>83936761
>FROM THE STUDIO THAT BROUGHT YOU DEADPOOL
>FROM THE DEADPOOL UNIVERSEâ„¢ FOX PRESENTS...
>X-MEN: THE DARK PHOENIX
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>middle of 2016 and Daredevil season 1 still hasn't been released on physical Blu-Ray

Does this pretty much prove that Fox has first right of refual for the distribution of a Daredevil or Elektra movie or tv show like how Universal has first right of refusal for the distribution of a Hulk or Namor solo movie?

They didn't even really make a 'tv' show either. They made a show that's on an internet video network.

I bet if this is the case that even if Fox let the Fantastic Four or X-Men rights revert back to Marvel. Fox would have the first right of refusal for distribution at least on a movie with only the Fantastic Four or only the X-Men.
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>>83936836
Daredevil rights went back to Marvel in 2014.
Don't know about the other shit though.
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>>83934826
>this retard spamming this pasta again
>image.jpg
>you literally have this copy/pasted on your phone just for shitposting purposes
Damn I'm glad I'm not living your life my man
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>>83936761
Or just go into X-Force
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>>83934190
>if I hate something it's bad right?
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>>83936836
Why is Fox so evil?
Why can't someone just burn their building downs and kill them all? The world would be a better place.
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>>83931835
>Needed more Mystique
>Except the Black Widow
>this much SJW pandering
Why are critics so terrible?
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>>83931835
Fox needs to:
>Stop skipping 10 years in every movie while using the same actors. They're doing that for the next one, so we're getting the 90s whether we like it or not
>Stop trying to always end the world. Dial the threats back, but still have them be important
>Focus on character development and interaction. We basically have an entirely new cast with how Jean, Cyke, Kurt, and the rest are being portrayed. Let them grow on us with how they interact. Cutting the mall scene was a mistake.
>Take a break from Xavier vs. Magneto. 6 movies now. 6 fucking movies.
>Dial down the X-Men hate. It's gotten stale in the comics and it has gotten stale in the movies. Yeah, being a mutant is hard. That doesn't need to be addressed in every movie you have.
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>>83936836
Fox needs to give the Fantastic Four rights back to Marvel. I'm fine with X-Men at Fox at the moment, but Fox has butchered Fantastic Four to hell and back. At least let them go back home.
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>>83938911
>home
The MCU is not a part of Marvel Entertainment.
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>>83931835
>Olivia Munn turned down the "sexist" role of Deadpool's love to be a generic hench with little to no development an lines (a role she bragged about).
Bet she must be kicking herself after that choice.
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>>83938999
Especially considering that Deadpool's love interest was a decent character who will only get more development later on. I know there can't be Death, but I'm bummed there won't be Shiklah
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>>83938999
Let's be honest, pretty much any role she played would be changed to little to no development and lines once they realized that Munn can't actually act.
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>>83931835
By letting Bryan Singer handle it all. First Class was still a better movie than days of future past.
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>>83934634
>in terms of amount of creativity on display

Yeah, so...something only /tv/ cares about.

Movies as high art, blah blah blah.
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>>83931835
Fuck everyone, Apocalypse was miles better than X3, and Man of Steel and BvS
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>>83941849
I think BvS was a better movie, but Apocalypse was more enjoyable to watch most of the time.
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>>83941849
All four of those are bad movies though.
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>>83941791
>>83943262
You people are disgusting. Kill yourselves.
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>>83931835

If FOX didn't make bank on Deadpool they would be at the negotiation table with Marvel right now. It barely made over 500mil. It made almost half what BvS did. What a fucking failure
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>>83944636
And yet Deadpool did make bank. And it's the most successful X movie to date.
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>>83931835
just make deadpool the main character of every
x-men movie from now on and make sure that tim miller is in charge of everything
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>>83935371
>If it's not MCU, it's bad
t. Feige and his army of Disney interns
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>>83938838
yup
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>>83931931
IMDB is at 7.4 while CW is barely at 8. I see no issue.
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>>83947185
>If it's not MCU, it's bad
To be fair, it's True. The MCU is Capekino. It's a MCU world, everyone is just living in it.
*Mic Drop*
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>>83936526
>Because it's shit? The action was terrible, the cgi was ugly, the story was boring, JLaw gave a half-assed performance, Fassbender was overacting, Magneto's boring dead family took up a third of the movie, and they interupt the movie to show a blatant commercial for Wolverine 3 (I'm surprised they didn't flash the text RESERVE YOUR TICKETS NOW!).

Are you describing Civil war by any chance? Replace Wolverine with Spider-man obviously.

The action scenes are miles away than anything marvel did in cw.
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>>83947846
To be kino must have artistic merit. Comic book accuracy is irrelevant. True kino is for example Hulk 2003, X2 and SM2.

The MCU is fun, is serviceable but not kino at all.
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>>83947840
>Trusting IMBD
>Ever
RT has scores from actual professional critics.
IMBD is pointless because a person can create a billion fake accounts and vote up a movie. It's literally the worse way to judge a movie. Even BvS and Warcraft have 7a despite both being worse than the holocaust. Even Metacritic is better.

Do everyone a favor, Fox Employee. Tell your Bosses to stop hiring pedophiles to make your cape films and hire people like Shane Black and Russos.
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jesus christ, is this thread a repost?
literally the same replies
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>>83947873
The action scenes were terrible. Cyclops himself is pointless and gets put into the wall.

Spider-Man was actually fun and added charm to the movie. The weapon x cameo was lazy and boring since we already saw his original before. Also Sniktbub getting turned on by underage JEEEEAAAAAAN was gross. What's next? Have Quicksilver bang his sister?
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>>83947914
It's Foxshills desperate to shill their bosses shitty movies. Because they know that if they lose X-Men and FF to the Marvel, Marvel will actually make good movies with the properties back and make the Foxshills look like idiots (well BIGGER idiots).

It's really sad.
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>>83947984
Ha, that's so funny. As if anything said on this message board actually has any effect on pop culture at large.
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>>83947957
>Also Sniktbub getting turned on by underage JEEEEAAAAAAN was gross.
Considering in the comics is Xavier the one who gets turned on by underage Jean I see no issue with this.

Cyclops is a complete scrub and could hold off himself good enough. He literally had a few days at the school and probably less than one week since discovering his powers. Again, no issue with that. It makes sense for Scott not to know how to fight.

The action scenes at least had weight. The airport scene was literally 15 minutes of nothing happens. Nightcrawler fucks Angel up really quick in both encounters. Its how a superpowered fight should be. With consequences. Doesnt help that CW fights look like tv tier. Singer at least knows the basics of film making and film language. Everything is framed better, lighten up better, paced better in X-men fights.

I watched the 2 movies again this weekend and frankly X-men wasnt as bad as I remembered it, while CW isnt really as good as I remember it.
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>>83947984
More like MCUcks wanting to get the rights back.

It really damaged their brains that Singer actually did a more colorful, more campy, more funnier movie than the MCU comedies.

They can now only talk about money.
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>>83948180
>0.92€ has been deposited into your account
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>>83948202
>more colorful
The few colorful scenes were from terrible cgi moments. Most of the movie was brown and dark (like CoD).
>more campy, more funnier
Yeah, watching Magneto kill billions of people on earth was so fun. Just like when Storm tried to kill Jean and Scott. Or when Apocalypse destroyed an entire city. Move over, Zootopia, we got the most fun movie of the year!!!
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>People in this thread are attempting to defend this eyesore lump of cinema
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>>83931961
Rotten Tomatoes is an aggregator - I don't know why it even comes up on this board. It only tells you how many critics liked it, it doesn't tell you if they loved it and vice versa.
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>>83948298
>no fun allowed
fuck you
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>>83931835
Simple: we kill Disney.
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>>83949667
If it's so simple why haven't you done it already?
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>>83948298
Disney is trash. Fuck your face.
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Should Disney buy them out? They can keep Simpsons running but I rather have them buy Warner Bros.
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>>83934982
You understand this is why the young kids today aren't into Star Wars like we are, they can't get the taste of mediocre shit out of their mouths fast enough to bother being interested enough to go back and see the originals which are good enough to spark fanboy passion. Passed over, it will be too late for them, they will be too old to begin their training. Star Wars will fade away and no one will give a shit about it anymore, like westerns.
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>>83947909

>Profressional critics

Im sure those stuffy assholes love sitting through capeflicks and vidyaflicks.
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>>83949863
>>83949858
Go away, Max Landis. You're just jelly that people prefer GOOD movies like SWTFA, Thor the Dark World, and Deadpool over your shitty cuck garbage movies.
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>>83931856
You have it all wrong.

People don't give a fuck about Rotten Tomatoes.

Rotten Tomatoes is a measure of how much people give a fuck.
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>>83949696
because it wasn't part of the plan
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>>83950354
Then what's the next step of your master plan?
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>>83932676
>hire Michael Bay to make all their X-Men movie
With Shia as the new Wolverine.
I'd unironically love it.
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>>83950371
getting caught
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>>83949858
Come on anon, you haven't kids seen in the toy isle fighting over who gets to be Kylo Ren or Luke or Finn? They're just as obsessed, but they're too young to reach that fanboy level.
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>>83950425
diff anon. I would be perfectly happy if at least one generation was spared from becoming fanboys.
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>>83932408
>the guy playing Jean
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>>83947909
>Thinking "professional critics" are in any way qualified.

PLEB
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>>83931835
>x-men fans will gobble it up, especially lewd teenage boys

wat
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>>83931835
Just fucking make Breakfast Club with mutants.

Not everything has to be about Charles and Erik and fucking JLaw. Give us Hellion and Surge and X-23 and co having a mutant town adventure or something.
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>>83950995
I think this is what we're suppose to get with New Mutants, actually.
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>>83950564
The king of /tv/ is a faggot, eh?

I guess I really shouldn't be surprised by how fitting this is.
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>>83931835
Holy crap was Deadpool awful. I wonder what kind of person thought it was funny
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>>83932408
>They should put the guy playing Jean playing Beast.

Kek.

But honestly though, this guy has it right for most of his post.

The main issue for almost everyone is that it was a Proffesor X/Mags/JLawstique movie, not an X-men movie, and expectations were kinda high after Deadpool showing that X-Men movies can actually evolve.

Hopefully they fix it soon, but i'd be ok with Fox letting go of the FF franchise, if only because they have done so much damage already that giving it to Mahvel would be the only sane thing to do.
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>>83951007
>The next movie will be a REAL X-Men film for sure!

t.every X-film since X3
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Stop making it about goddamn
Mystique and Magneto for one.
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>>83951072
kek

Well, at least with this one we won't have to worry about the spotlight being on the First Class trinity of Mags, Xavier, and Mystique again.
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>>83951055
>deadpool
>evolution of anything

Its a family guy episode meets reddit: the movie. One really shitty comedy.

Are we just talking about costumes?
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>>83948235
Try to at least write a coherent answer with proper arguments, musketeer repeats a meme and thinks he did good.
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Merging with the MCU is asking for trouble and convolution. Mutants can work great on their own. Here's how I'd do it:

Set the Universe in an alternate timeline of the real Earth. Some 50-60 years before the movie, there was a big event where lots of people died and lots of cities got partially destroyed. Big-ass EMPs went off around the world. Never reveal what caused it. Some people think it was cold war missiles, some people think it was a mutant, some people think it was the military being afraid of mutants, who had only come to the public eye some 10 years before.

Here's the deal though, don't make it grim and post-apocalyptic. After these 50 years, society is mostly re-established with regular countries and leaders and everyday life. There's still some signs of destruction and debris and trash, but not to a Fallout point. Think the Philadelphia ghetto in Rocky 1.

Some junkyards, some cut-off highways, tons of bunkers and labs, a couple of fallen aeroplanes and/or sattelites, but all that happened in the past and is just waiting to be cleaned. There are however some biker gangs and some street violence (not as extreme as any of the Mad Maxes), particularly but not restricted to the mutants.

Deadpool struck this balance pretty well, destruction-wise. No need to go full 90's edge or full Snyder gray. Just a tiny bet to set things up.

Then the X-men show up with their bright and clean costumes (like Negasonic in Deadpool), and the contrast with the environment helps establish that they are a rescue team, created by mutants to help clean their name by helping people around, who eventually get caught up in super-heroics and paramilitary operations against the evil mutants, who are more ragged and biker-gang.

Slap some unknown actors and a writer that knows what he's doing, and you can even do a proper O5 story, because a lot of their powers can be used in rescuing situations.

Second movie starts with the second team and the transition.
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>>83931835
What I want to know is why both Cyclops and Jean look flabbly, flacid, weak, emaciated, fat, chubby, bloated. Etc.

Other teens have the same problem in the movie, and even no teens, why do all americans look like they've been stung by bees?

Even the thin ones look like they think Cardio is some sort of mythological beast.
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>>83951639
So long as they drop inhumans to go back to the root mutants.
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>>83934793
If only i was still so young and full of hope anon
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>>83950371
You fucced it up anon
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>>83950397
If I took that thing off would you die ?
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