Dofus/Wakfu

>>83903432
She was better than that fucking Iop (I don't even remember his name). The movie and her character in particular would be improved 1000% if he were cut.

>>83903432
What is this?
Is there a new Dofus show out?

>>83903543
If there's not an Iop for the staff to masturbate to it's not Ankama

>>83903550
it's the dofus movie.
>>83903543
>>83903651
This. I actually really like Iops but Khan was terrible.

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>>83903550
movie's been out for around 2 weeks now, with subs ready since last week.
pastebin.com/pnixYFQ4 (my backups and shiet)

>>83903432
Bakara was a shitty hero but that doesn't necessarily make her a bad character.

>>83903543
I hope that in the extraordinarily unlikely event Dofus Book 2 happens, those two either die early in the film or don't show up at all.

>>83904330
What's her name was fine. Khan needs to go.

>>83904348
lore wise joris and khan will be big friends for a long time.
so doubt he will go away.

>>83904348
He was just there so the writers would have an excuse to shove their stupid made-up fluffy rugby rip-off into the story for the nth time.

>>83904595
Does he get more useful at least?

Cuckermages are only good at party tricks and slutting up. They can't even properly protect their king. TWICE.

Bontafags will defend this.

>>83904669
not only that, they used sneaky tactics plus (big plot point so avoid)attacked defenseless julith with like 15 mages

Bontafags will defend this.

Bontarians are scum in game and in the movie. Huh.

>>83904669
You forgot being backstabbing bitches.

>>83903432
>>83903543
I thought the romance subplot and the comedy relief (Iop) were pretty funny. I also liked Bakara, not every character has to be without faults.

>>83903432
Why does she wear the ears?

>>83905344
A lot of loyalty for a hired asshasshin

So got some questions, since I've been catching up on Wakfu/Dofus stuff. Are the Dofus in the movie the same "primordial" dofus Ogrest has?

>>83904955
Remove Bonta.
Brakmar for life.

>>83903432
Bakara just recently became a huppermage, though, when the black Dofus got taken. She's not exactly like Kerubim, who was an experienced warrior. And she doesn't have the same MC powers as Joris, who had some of the black Dofus' power in him. I mean, when she had the white Dofus in her hands, she tore shit up. Then she got drunk and a bit unreliable.

>>83905473
They are.

>>83904669
>>83904907
>>83904955
>>83905131
>>83905496
Fuck off Cuckmarians. You can only dream of achieving our level of boufball perfection.

>>83903984
whats the diff between (720p + EN/FR/IT/RU) and (Various formats + hardsubs) (not mine ftm)

>>83905691
Any reason why the dragons seem kinda brainwashed? Since the white dragon from the movie, at least, looked more talkative and less angry.

>>83905733
>tfw I am actually Bontarian in game

>>83905496
meh they are both shit, just move to other kingdoms
>>83905733
>implying brakmarian
>>83905781
just check them.. the (720p) is in my backups so i can keep an eye on them and it only has the original version of the file + sub files.
the (various) are various formats posted on plus4chan but for the moment i haven't backed them up on my alts

>>83905808
I have no idea. There a few things that are really confusing in terms of continuity between Dofus and Wakfu, or across animation, comics and manga.

Osamodas shouldn't be blue in Dofus and should have tails.
Ecaflips should have to wear pants (Kerubim).
Dragons shouldn't be beast-like and speechless (Wakfu OVAs).
Dark Vlad's head shouldn't be a detached flaming skull (Wakfu S3).
Harebourg should be a midget with a cool hat, not some kind of bishie faggot with a Nox mask (OVAs).
Percimol should be dead (OVAs).
...

>Brakmar
>Bonta
Bitches know Sufokians a best

>>83903984
what "other specials" consist of?

>>83905733
>Nation full of corrupt greedy assholes and cowards
>Meanwhile Brakmar citizens stay loyal to each other, are skillful in battle, work hard and our women are hot
Fuck you Bonta, scum of the World of Twelve.

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>>83905781

The one is 720p softsubbed and the other formats are either SD with softsubs or hardsubbed so of lower quality.

>>83906015

Open the link and you will see.

>>83906041
why include them then?

>>83906083
Takes up less space on your computer? I don't really mind, since I've got a lot to spare.

>>83906083

Because there seem to be people who either don't have a player that can play softsubs or have limited bandwidth and can't download 3GB.

Fuck em, right?

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>>83905939
>should be dead
kekd

>>83906015
special episodes
-Goultard
-Noximilien
-Ogrest

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>>83905958

>>83905733
>nuke your own city because someone was fucking someone you dont like

So I thought Lilotte was adopted by Kerub's dog rival? I mean, apparently. Don't know if it's true since I just read it on the wiki. So why is she apparently an orphan sleeping outside on the streets? This another inconsistency?

>>83906317
Either that or Indie got too old for his own good.

>>83906317
Maybe he died or something?

>>83906343
>>83906367
Oh yeah, forgot that they're both already grandpas in the Dofus series and only one of them is a demigod.

>>83906317
Fuck knows. It's an almost identical character model to Indy's grand daughter in that one episode of Dofus so it does make sense for it to be her.
I suspect it was more timely to just explain her as an orphan than to explain Keke's rivalry with Indy and why she's staying with him of all people.

>>83905344
If I pull them off, would she die?

>>83906317
Maybe there's something about it in the art book for the movie?

>>83906444
You missed a few scenes after the credits.

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>>83906507

She took them off like halfway in the movie.

>>83906083
>>83906117
that's why i dont back up other qualities on pastebin

>>83906317
i'm still not 100% sure they are the same (she doesn't reference him in any way)
probably just inspired design.

>>83905808
>>83905939
It seems dragons native from the World of 12 can also reincarnate, just like Eliatrope dragons (they just don't have a twin sharing their Dofus). Dardondakal is supposed to be slain by Hyrkul, yet, he appears in the OVAs. There's also Ignemikal who reincarnates as a human named Arty, and later on reincarnates again in his natural dragon form to appear in the OVAs.

Maybe reincarnation wipes part of their memory/personality. Another possibility is that they were just controlled by Ogrest while he had ingested all six Primordial Dofuses. Yet another possibility is that they may have a more bestial behavior under their physical incarnated form, and a more sapient behavior while trapped in their Dofus waiting to be reborn. There's no canon answer to these behavior changes, but they are not unexplainable inconsistencies either.

>>83907060
I'm looking up this page
http://krosmoz.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon
And I'm a bit confused in regards to the dragons of the World of Twelve. How many dragons are there, exactly? What are the primordial dragons? Since they're primordial, I assumed they were the first, but they seem to have parents?

>>83907060
>Yet another possibility is that they may have a more bestial behavior under their physical incarnated form, and a more sapient behavior while trapped in their Dofus waiting to be reborn.
There are plenty of interactions that can refute this. Aguabrial when Djaul tricked him with the Ondine, Aguabrial in Les Larmes turquoise, Bolgrot's friendship with Rykke Errel, Gresgaoulian's relationship with Calypso...

>>83907264
>How many dragons are there, exactly?
There's a list of known dragons on that page.

>What are the primordial dragons?
Direct descendants of Osamodas' dragons, also listed on that page.

>Since they're primordial, I assumed they were the first, but they seem to have parents?
They're the first on the World of Twelve, but not in the Universe.

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Would you look at the time.

Every time something new for Wakfu comes out, I always feel like trying the game. But then the game just isn't as beautiful as the show and I get a little disappointed. Oh well, signing up again.

>>83909068
Game is alright at the start if you can find people to do dungeons with you. Gets boring after a while though.

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Lilotte is best girl.

>>83909068
The artwork's nice but having your view limited to an isometric view is a pain. I wish they would consider switching to 3D so players can look around.

>>83909068
>game isnt as beautiful as the show
Are you legit retarded?
also if anything its ankama being incompetent fucks and not supporting the game like they should be, both wakfu and dofus, theyre too focused on taking people's money with shit deals and doing jack shit for the game, ive given enough money to them

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Left or right? Choose one.

>>83909317
Julith

>>83909317
Why are evil girls so much best?

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>>83909454

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>>83909468

dem boobs though

>>83909317
The one with the better nose.

>>83909317
Dog

>>83909227
It's a nice style but it doesn't compare.

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>>83909725

Lilotte chooses you!

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Drunk Bakara is the best girl in the movie

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>>83910615

Cheers to that!

>>83908750
>do you have about 20 minutes to hear the word of our lord?

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>>83909227

>you will never see animated Srambad.

So we all now Ankama love their tragic villains, and Julith was one much the same as Nox and Qilby. However, did anyone else feel like they kinda didn't get it right with her in the movie? (Warning, major spoilers below)

Julith is doing her business to get her husband back, whom the Bontarians think she betrayed, but in reality she didn't betray Jahash, but then she also now genuinely hates the Bontarians because they think that of her and specifically chose to revive Jahash by making a spectacle out of the Boufball game - so although we're meant to feel somewhat sorry for her and support her redemption, really she is still quite an asshole kidnapping Lilotte to force Jojo to become complicit in her twisted shit

Furthermore, once it is revealed that the Huppermages fucked up and are the ones who got Julith killed, we don't see the impact this revelation has on their standing - clearly they're highly revered in post-destruction Bontarian society, protecting the King of Bonta and presenting the statue of Jahash who was himself a Huppermage. A little more exposition on this would've been nice and not too much to ask for since the film was around 1 hour 45 mins long, 2 more minutes or so wouldn't have hurt but I can accept maybe that's just a personal criticism

Perhaps it was due to time contraints however that they, in my opinion, didn't do Julith as well as Nox or Qilby but overall I quite liked the film

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>>83910690
h-heh, no problem i guess.. besides how long can it be?

pic semirelated (was searching for the 20min pic but stumbled on a better one)

Dog is for sexual.

https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1905300#search=dealwithit

>>83910843
Perhaps your questions will be revealed in Book2 which will be released in 2099. As for Julith hating Bontarians, probably isn't that new since she is Brakmarian.

I'd have to disagree with you on the handling of her tragic villain aspect though. The movie keeps mentioning that she had a desire to see Bonta's fall, but this was just a red herring to the audience.

Julith simply wanted to have a family. There wasn't much need for exposition since I believe the flashback scenes from Julith's perspective was more than enough. What tugged my heartstrings about her character how well they showed her motherly side whenever she an Jojo would have their tender moments.

I'd say Julith would be on Nox's level when it comes to 10/10 villains.

Where is the love for amakna, eh?

>>83910843
>we're meant to feel somewhat sorry for her and support her redemption
There's your problem. She was always evil to begin with. She has no qualms with killing people who get on her bad side, and there was never a "redemption." She just kept her murderous side in check because it wouldn't fly with Jahash and she was willing to make that concession for his sake. When the people she always considered her enemies unjustly turned on her, it's no surprise that she wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice them.

You can feel bad about her losing her family and so on, but she was never a good guy turned bad out of necessity like Nox. She was a bad guy who calmed down for a while, then found new reasons to kill people.

>>83911495
I love dem buns.

>>83911503
But as >>83911212 rightly said they're giving us the family side to try and nuance her, which I do appreciate rather than "lol Julith is the incarnation of Brakmarian evil", but even Qilby felt more tragic because they didn't sell her enough to me personally

Although if you take it as in your spoiler, it's an interesting way to look at it - I just took the redemption as trying to portray her as the latter rather than the former

>>83905939

Dunno why maskemane was even there in the ecaflip dimension?

>>83911605
You can be inclined towards murder while caring about family. A lot of people are dicks to everyone except their relatives. If anything, her "family side" makes her more believable as a human being than if she just wanted everyone dead for the lulz. That she wouldn't let her bond with Joris get in the way of her plan is understandable considering she hardly knows him and he was raised by one of her old enemies. Making him see things the way she does was a thing to take care of later. When he defied her in the finale, she was willing to fight him, though indirectly, because he was essentially "one of them." But when it came down to it, she wouldn't outright kill him either, because he was of her flesh. That conflicting relationship, to me, felt precisely like the way an "evil" parent might feel and act. Always torn between "I can kill whoever opposes me" and "This is my offspring and I would give my life for them."

>>83911746
uhm, cause ush brought him there maybe?

>>83911925
I suppose her attitudes towards killing and Jojo fits her idea that if she just reunites with her undead husband and son she never knew everything will be okay and they can live in peaceful quiet idea, she's clearly not in a good state of mind

So, uhh..

who was it that set off the black dofus in the first place?

And why is Joris immortal and lives for so long if the dragon soul is out of him now? Or is it back in him and in the egg?

I loved the movie. It was pretty much everything i hoped for minus the idiot iopscipades but it wouldn't be Ankama without bulge's of both sex's flying in our faces.

>>83912063
She had no intention to kill Jojo. Just preventing him from hindering her plans. Besides, where else would you get another 1k souls? inb4 Brakmar

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>>83912199
I meant them as two separate things, I didn't mean she at any point considered killing Jojo

She could've done it in Astrub, but she specifically chose the 10 year anniversary of Jahash because FUCK BONTA

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Happy Father's day!

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What's his name again /co/?

>>83912349
Oh yeah. Reading comprehension is not my forte. As for waiting for 10 years, it takes time to fully recover from multiple fatal wounds anon.

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>>83911925
>>83911212
>>83910843
>>83912063
What's kind of idiotic about Julith is that the ending implies that the best way to remedy her fury and loneliness...was to off herself.

Hey, kids! Sad about the departure of a loved one from this mortal plane?

CONSIDER SUICIDE! We think it'll probably work!

What was the butcher doing all this time?

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>Sadly Grove and Evas kids are a bit older
>Sadly Grove fucking knocks her up AGAIN
>Amalia is older aswell
>FUCKING Adamai decides to grow older
>Yugo is still fucking 12 years old


WHEN WILL IT END YOU FRENCH FUCKS

I know hes some god king but if his fucking brother can do it why cant he?

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KONO ADAMAI DA

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>>83913061
They were put between a rock and a hard place by France 3

>Tot wants to age Yugo up in the OVAs
>France 3 say for a children's show you must have a child protagonist
>Tot concedes and makes a point of the OVAs Yugo lamenting that Eliatrope's inability to age normally (the explanation for him not being older in the OVAs which are 7 years later than S2) will ruin his chances with some prime Sadida pussy
>now Tot is free of the shackles of France 3 for S3 but can't age up Yugo without completely contravening that point in the OVAs

>>83913108
Ugh please don't fucking force your garbage anime with Wakfu/Dofus Jojobrony. Fuck off.

>>83913174

He just looked similar atleast they replaced his nigger lips.


Hes still a bitch though

>>83912896
Either tending his shop or attending the gobbowl game, I'd say.

>>83905327
>I also liked Bakara, not every character has to be without faults.
This. A good character, regardless of gender, isn't a character without faults and who never makes mistakes.

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>>83913138

All it will do is enforce the /ss/ between him and Amalia.


Whats even worse is that I think hes more embarrassed over it then Amalia.

>>83913061
>>83913138
>>83913270
I'm almost positive Amalia is going to die. She's shown to be very self-sacrificing when it comes down to certain things, and it would resolve the whole issue with Yugo (assuming that it's likely they won't get together because of how young he looks).

>>83903651
>>83903543

Wasnt the Iop Joris's best friend?


and speaking of Joris how much fucking apocalypses has he been though by now?

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I liked Khan.

>>83913352
I don't think he would have been so badly received if he was in the show, but in the movie with his constant 'thinks with his dick' thing going on he got annoying really fast.

>>83913308
Ankama won't kill a protagonist who can't come back to life. They missed their chance with Grovy and they've had several other opportunities.

>>83913320
About three, I think.

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>>83913270

>>83913390
>Ankama won't kill a protagonist who can't come back to life
They can if it's the end of the series.

I want the other races to join the brotherhood of tofu

>qt Xelor girl nobody trusts since shes a dirty Xelor
>ecaflip who isant immortal and actually uses gambling magic
>happy go lucky Pandawa who just wants to drink and live life to the fullest

>>83903984

Thanks for the link

>>83913482
A Xelor could easily be the Prince Zuko of the Ankamaverse

An Ecaflip who isn't the son of Ecaflip and whose gambles quite often go awry, like the Ecaflips in the Ogrest special, would be great

Pandawa could be good if they weren't purely comic relief, although I do trust Ankama to handle the drunken combat thing well to be fair

Perhaps not the addition of all 3, but any of these could work

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>>83913571

Only to the brotherhood of Tofu would she be prince zuko not all xelors are bad its just the 2 Xelors they have ran into were sorta insane and took things to the extreme for there own gain.

>>83913642
>not all Xelors are bad

The only non-evil Xelor we've seen has been the Boufball referee one, they're normally shown hanging around Brakmar

But I'm for a Xelor who isn't trusted becoming an esteemed member of the Brotherhood cause I love that shit

>>83913482
What's that, the inclusion or reference to other classes/races besides Iop/Cra(p)/Sadida that are all 100x more interesting?
No fuck you.

>>83913482
>>83913571
>>83913828
They had the opportunity to retire Eva and Grovy and maybe Amalia (her deciding to dedicate more time to her duties) and they didn't take it. On top of it, Eva's pregnant AGAIN.

>>83909068
I tried playing for a while but I thought it was too grindy and repetitive. And I used to love playing korean mmorpgs back in the day. It also feels like a ghost town a lot of the time.

>>83913864
If you were playing on Remi server that explains why it was a Ghost Town.

>>83913891
Maybe, this was a long while ago. I was mostly playing the summoner class. I actually really like the look of the characters and world, but couldn't stick with it. Maybe next time I'll try the server that isn't empty.

>>83913946
Just started on Nox and that seems to have a decent amount of people.

It doesn't really surprise me that the movie didn't do well in France, it's not easy on newcomers. Anyone who isn't familiar with the universe isn't going to know what's going on. That's not a bad thing though it's just something that I was thinking while watching the movie.
How was it received in France, though, I heard it did poorly but were the reviews poor or was there just a low viewer turnout?

>>83914111
I seem to remember Tot saying somehwere that it did about as well as an animated movie not from one of the big studios should do in France, so not altogether bad but the tone was one of disappointment - perhaps personally rather than objectively though, since it's easy to get the impression that Tot is very proud of his creations

>>83914155
Well they seem to put a lot of heart into it so that's not really surprising.

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>>83914224
Yeah for sure, Ankama make things they know won't be profitable for the joy of doing it. They're lucky they struck it big with their online games to fund them for that but it's nice to see true passion going into their produce

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>>83913946

Music is maximum comfy too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4YKJ07jjPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZkPhx8lxwI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YPr1stprL0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tla6A4gYz2E&

>>83914351
>>83914155
Tot needs to be fucking removed, he has been ruining the games and show for the longest now and has already done too much damage.

>>83914413
He's the one who removes.

>>83914364
Nothing will ever nostalgia me like the old Dofus music, fucking comfy as shit god damn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s5dAkQ4fVU

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>>83914547

>>83914547


>TFW wakfu doesn't have the sweet ass temple themes in the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYwgS56srI4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEfRLWEZBmc

>>83913482
Dude, they managed to squeeze in their trite snooty blonde/idiotic ginger pairing into a movie set hundreds of years before Wakfu.

You are stuck with Grovy and Eva forever.

>ecaflip who...actually uses gambling magic

After the Dofus cartoon spent an entire story arc showing you how "gambling is bad"? Dream on.

Why was lillote being the granddaughter of kerubims rival never mentioned?

>>83915064
To be fair they didn't get together and there are actually some differences between the characters, but yeah I think Tot has a thing for blonde girls and dumb ginger guys.

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>>83915119
Probably because they didn't want the movie to carry too much baggage from the series and be unwatchable by most of the population. There are a lot of things they could have mentioned or used in the movie but didn't. Even Luis didn't get a hint of an explanation. He's just there and people are expected to just take a talking house in stride.

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>>83913108
>>83913138
Will Yugo actually defeat the villain personally this season or will something else do it like how it was with Nox, Qilby, the Count, Ush, and Ogrest?

Hell, the one time Joris was about to do something cool in his own movie got nuh-uh'd by his mom. So apparently the trend extends to Ankama main characters (who aren't Iops) in general

>>83915184
I'm kinda ticked at how abrupt the movie ended.
Did they just leave Luis lying around in half burnt shambles?

>>83914547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10JqGEI9ZQ

>>83915212
Adamai will come to his senses just when it looks like all hope is lost and Yugo is almost dead, and defeat the other villains himself. He will apologize for the shit he did and reconcile with Yugo.

In season 4 the BoT goes on a new egg hunt and Adamai stays behind to babysit Yugo and Amalia's children.

>>83915353

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx978em7zpg

>>83915338
That iris out and "fin" was fucking idiotic, but then again, the movie loses all legitimacy and drama when you find out that Julith's entire mass murdering scheme centered around a pair of her husband's used underwear.

That was insanely stupid.

The movie really takes a nosedive after the Julith vs. Kerub fight and crashed by the end of it in several respects.

>>83915417
Tot said in an interview that the underwear idea divided the studio in half between people who said "WTF no" and others who said "haha yes go for it."

It's such a facepalm moment.

>>83915338
It is only Livre 1, the intention is to leave open a possible sequel but I guess that depended on the success of the movie

>>83915212
Hopefully Yugo will absolutely slam someone in S3 since they have a higher age bracket for their target audience; the good character hulking out is one of my fav tropes

>>83914364
>Xelorium Pasado
perfection

>>83915417
>>83915460
I thought it was funny.
Ankama usually goes for the unsophisticated humor so I didn't mind.

>>83915184
>Probably because they didn't want the movie to carry too much baggage from the series and be unwatchable by most of the population

The biggest culprit of that in the movie was Kerub and Atcham's divine parentage and that could've more elegantly fit into the theme of family if they had chosen to focus on that bizarre dynamic instead of Khan's idiocy.

>>83915489
>It is only Livre 1, the intention is to leave open a possible sequel but I guess that depended on the success of the movie

The only open plot point is who actually activated the Ebony Dofus.

Although the way THAT played out in the climax was equally dumb since Julith's flashback revelation and Joris' subsequent encounter with the artifact revealed that its master (ie Julith) could've just turned it off without slamming the Ivory Dofus into it and blowing herself up.

>>83915417
Oh yeah the underwear thing was legitimately stupid. The movie was an exercise in what Ankama does very well and what they do very, very badly.

>>83915417
>>83915460
>Everything must be grimdark and so serious all the time.
>ALL THE TIME.

As for the abrupt ending, didn't you see the credits and the scene after? it tied things up pretty neatly.

>>83915489
>Hopefully Yugo will absolutely slam someone in S3 since they have a higher age bracket for their target audience; the good character hulking out is one of my fav tropes

He tried that thrice (against Nox, Qilby, and Ogrest) and got his ass kicked every time.

It ain't happening if he ain't Goultard.

>>83915658
The joke was literally on par with fartbending. There's a time and place do "lol UNDIES XD" jokes and it's not when you're trying to revive your dead husband by sacrificing thousands of lives to do it in front of your twelve year old son.

>>83915658
Yes, because Nox's grand genocidal scheme revolved using his wife's panties to travel through time and Qilby needed to wipe out the world to power his sister's interstellar push-up bra.

>>83915715
>Everything must be grimdark and so serious all the time.
>ALL THE TIME.

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>>83915768
So you admit we're right.

>that entire movie
>Ankama trying to be Ghibli for almost two hours
>and horrendously failing

Cripes, that was painful.

>>83915784
No? Why would you even think that?

>>83915852
Because your argument is you just copy and pasting the same thing over and over. It was a stupid idea and bad writing.

>>83915623
>Julith could've just turned it off without slamming the Ivory Dofus into it and blowing herself up.
But she wanted to die and be with Jahash again.

>the villain of the movie's motivations revolved entirely around her matronly instincts and wanting her husband's D again

And here I thought they were exaggerating when they said this movie was sexist

>Simone's budding relationship, while largely toothless, was a rather dignified depiction of a homosexual relationship, and gays in general
>movie has a hysterically camp secondary antagonist who is wackily abused by and because of his man crush

Wow. One step forward, about a kilometer back.

>>83915768

To be honest Yugo is kinda like the god emperor now

>>83916006
Yeah, this movie set back the rights of LGBTBBQs everywhere

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>>83916038

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>>83915417

Yeah, the whole underwear thing was a bit retarded.

>>83916006
This is probably bait but I wouldn't really expect any better from Ankama, and I don't say this in a critical way. It's pretty obvious it's a studio made up of mostly male anime fans who draw porn of all of the women characters in their spare time.

Again, I'm not saying that's exactly a bad thing, it's just obvious where their preferences lie.

>>83916013
yeah, but before getting throned, the Emperor actually beat down his enemies most of the time instead of letting a bad math equation, a tummy ache, or a goddamn egg do his work for him.

>>83916006
Am I just blind to this identity politics stuff? I saw Julith's family ambitions as a way for Tot to try and get us to try sympathise with her to add nuance by adding a distinctly human component to what could've been ME BIG EVIL FROM BIG EVIL CITY I HATE GOOD

As with the fanboy I can see more where you're coming from but at the time of watching I saw it as star-struck-ness rather than a portrayal of a gay man

>>83916190
I thought his dialogue about being ready to "receive" from Kahn made it pretty obvious what Ankama was going for.

>>83916102
Her motivation is EXACTLY THE SAME as Nox's. Family is kind of the big thread that ties most of the series' plots together. Even Qilby wanted his family to come with him exploring the cosmos.

Just because it's a chick this time doesn't mean there's any sexism or even the slightest bit of bias on display. If anything, they should be praised for consistency in theme.,

>>83916190
>Am I just blind to this identity politics stuff? I saw Julith's family ambitions as a way for Tot to try and get us to try sympathise with her to add nuance by adding a distinctly human component to what could've been ME BIG EVIL FROM BIG EVIL CITY I HATE GOOD

She tried to kill a thousand people because her vagina told her to.

>As with the fanboy I can see more where you're coming from but at the time of watching I saw it as star-struck-ness rather than a portrayal of a gay man

Did you glance over the voice, the lips, his clothes, his flailing, his shower perving, and the ass slapping?

>>83916240
That's not how this works, anon. If someone says it's sexism, it IS sexism and you better check your damn privilege.

>>83916240
Uh maybe I should have been clearer but I was actually specifically speaking about how a romantic relationship between two women was handled better than a man showing sexual/romantic interest in another man was. It's the same old thing about how lesbians are cute/hot but gay guys are icky.

I don't think there was anything sexist about Julith's motivations.

>>83916240
Her motivation being so close to Nox's actually bothered me a little bit, but her character was different enough so I didn't mind it as much.

>>83916280
Simone's relationship had more time to be developed, but also Khan's treatment of Marline was another way to show us that Khan is a total asshole.

>>83916247
Nox tried to kill literally everything because he wanted to get some vagina by that reasoning?

Maybe with the fanboy I did block it out a bit however

>>83916330
But they didn't need to make Marline into a walking stereotype. They didn't even need to have him be attracted to Khan.

>>83916298
>Nox's scheme involved a machine that would suck the life out of people
>Qilby's scheme involved a machine that would suck the life out of people
>Julith's scheme involved a machine that would suck the life out of people

Oh gee, I wonder what the bad guys in Season 3 will use as their ultimate doomsday weapon.

>>83916366
Fair enough. I didn't mind it

>>83916280
>but gay guys are icky.

It's because of the hair. Why do you think so many of them wax.

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>>83916389
It'll suck the life out of virgins, so Yugo dies and it's up to everyone else to save the day.

>>83916337
>Maybe with the fanboy I did block it out a bit however

His name was Marlene, dude.

>>83916520
>and it's up to everyone else to save the day.

Just like at the end of all the past seasons and OVAs?

>>83916337
>>83916190
>Am I just blind to this identity politics stuff
>Nox tried to kill literally everything because he wanted to get some vagina by that reasoning?

The symbolism of his horrifying plan was that he had lost time and was trying to get it back (i.e. the giant spider clock)

The item that symbolized Bakara's? Her husband's underwear.

>>83916556
Marlene, thank you mon ami

>>83916612
That is a classic Ankama-ism though and fitted the tone of the movie, for better or worse

I think the imposition of this extra lens to view Julith's plan through simply because she's a woman is a bit unfair, why must a woman's family ambitions be sexist when it's certainly a recurring theme in Ankama works as >>83916240 points out

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>>83916612
That's a fair point.
But look at the way Julith reacts to Joris, she's shocked when she finds him and then she tries to get him back. There's nothing sexist about trying to reconstruct a family. The briefs were even stated to have been hand made when she was pregnant with Joris, it's a symbol of family. Albeit an odd one.

>>83916750
>That is a classic Ankama-ism though and fitted the tone of the movie, for better or worse

So, If Julith had been a male antagonist, would the writers have had a pair of his wife's panties at the center of the device?

>>83916836
Probably, yeah.

>>83916836
I know it's going to sound like I'm not trying to be amenable to your view but honestly I'd say yes, it would be pretty classic Ankama

>>83916808
>The briefs were even stated to have been hand made

Via knitting. A traditionally feminine thing to do. So you know, based on that and all of the above, the writers seem to be implying that her being a woman had something to do with all the badness.

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>>83916846
>>83916878
I think it would have been a bra but either one would be likely

>>83916925
>Via knitting
how else are you going to make clothing, hew it from a rock?

>the ending was basically the climax of the first Bionicle movie

https://youtu.be/FmJkzKZo0F8?t=197

I didn't know it was possible to hate Boufbowl more.

>>83917043
I wonder what their obsession with it is.
How popular are sports in France? Is this a cultural thing?

>>83917043
Not going to lie, when I saw the finale in my mind I couldn't help but think of the /co/ntingent that iddnt like Boufball and what they'd think

>>83916925
>the writers seem to be implying that her being a woman had something to do with all the badness.
Holy fuck the delusion is strong with this one.

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>>83916846
>>83916878
>>83916930
Because that's totally what this cornerstone item used by male villains looks like when they want to turn back time or power a mountain space ship.

>>83917085
Ankama wants it to be their Quidditch probably. A beloved and iconic fictional sport.

But based on how freakishly hard they're trying to force it, it's just not catching on.

>>83917236
Turning back time and powering a mountain space ship don't involve a humanoid body or clothing. The underpants were a personal thing that connected to the individual. The eliacube was a source of power for pumping up the macguffin.
The underpants were pretty dopey but it's not like they were the weapon Julith used to murder a couple thousand people.

>>83917315
I'm sure they'll try again in season 3.
>All those /co/ fantasies of Slam Jam finalies showing up in comics finally come to bite us in the ass

>>83913253
>isn't a character without faults and who never makes mistakes.

Yeah, but she was a complete fuck-up damsel-in-distress.

>>83917236
You know that if they did you'd complain that using a woman's underwear would be objectification and that the man is only interested in the woman for what's between her legs.

And if Julith used her own underwear you'd complain about her reducing herself to her sexual identity.

And if a man used his own underwear you'd complain about his phallus being an icon of power encouraging male domination.

You'll always complain about everything because anything can be twisted and framed to look like sexism and push your brainless crusade.

>>83911212
Why hasn't anyone impregnated Julith yet? Are the men beta?

>>83917362
She definitely wasn't a damsel in distress. She was just a fuck up.

Why another Iop when they could of used another class like Sacrier?

>>83906317
i bet, that ankama is just got lazy and reuse old assets, or butchering their own lore and story like they always do

>>83917450
>gets tied up by Julith and knocked out
>gets held at sword point by Atcham and needs Joris to bail her out
>gets pinned down by Atcham's mount
>Lilotte needs to wheelbarrow her incompetent self down to the house
>nearly gets crushed by the swere cave in and winds up clinging for dear life on the floating platform
>nearly gets beaten to death by the living mascot and needs Khan to bail her out
>loses her Wakfu first

She was both, anon.

>>83917541
We have different definitions of a damsel in distress then.

>>83917520
I think there's some censorship issues with Sacriers.

I liked how Khan and Bakara came out as less sympathetic than Julith. Khan was a huge, selfish, self obsessed asshole and Bakara was a cold-hearted, vengeful, fuck up.

>>83917567
>I liked how Khan and Bakara came out as less sympathetic than Julith.

She murdered an old man, would've killed Joris if he hadn't been her kid, tried to murder a 1000 people because ME good-BONTA BAD, and spent years trying to get her husband's dick back into her pussy instead of looking for her child.

>>83917567
I didn't find Bakara to be less sympathetic than Julith. She was just a little girl when she lost her brother and since then she's been unable to find an outlet for her anger against Julith while dealing with the pressure of growing up in her brother's shadow.

Khan was just a useless dick though.

>>83917631
And Nox murdered several countries, killed two, maybe three main characters all in the name of a family he abandoned.

>>83917639
Well I focused a bit on her betraying everyone, getting Atcham killed and then getting drunk and almost giving up on going after Julith. Khan at least just abandoned Joris and was an asshole.
Although Bakara was what, 20 years old? 18? Her behavior isn't too unreasonable.

Reminder that Nox did literally nothing wrong and Blue Bill Cosby is a more evil individual.

So there are supposed to be two more movies or something?

>>83917971
>Blue Bill Cosby is a more evil individual.

That could refer to a lot of people in this franchise. Who are you talking about.

>>83918020
With how poorly this one did? I doubt it.

>>83918047
Who's the only Osa beside Osa himself that's mentioned in the show/comics/games?

>>83918299
Drill?

>>83918252

How poorly did it do?

>>83918343
kabrok

>>83917565
>We have different definitions of a damsel in distress then.

What's yours?

>>83918554
It didn't blow anything out of the water.
If Ankama made a profit it probably wasn't a large profit.

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Goddamn I can't get over how awesome Julith's cape is.

>>83918626

If they made a profit then they'd make another one.

>>83918726
It's a big IF. but I don't have any sort of data to make claims on.

>>83916520
>implying is anything other than a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus

Where have you been the past five years, anon?

Ah god damn it, now I feel bad.

I'll buy a bluray if it ever hits the states.

>>83918782
We're talking about canon here, not a fandom meme.

>>83918845
Good.

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>>83918691
I love me a good cape, and she sure uses hers well.

So is the movie any good?

>>83919192
Yes, it's good.

>>83919208
Cool.

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I liked how Marline's mouth was frequently heart-shaped throughout this scene. The kind of little details I like to see in Ankama's animations.

>>83915353
That is fucking great.

Dardondakal is the best character
and also has the best name.

>the only classes represented in Wakfu and dofus are Ecas, Iops, Sadidas and an Enu.
>four out of 15 fucking races
I juant want Enis and Xelors!

>>83919669
Nuts to ya

>>83912847
It's not that, but that she had to let go of her obsession to bring Jahash back/get revenge on the people who caused her family to be torn apart in the first place. Dying/sacrificing herself the same way Jahash did was simply a part of that. She couldn't very well let Joris take responsibility for her own actions, you know.

>>83913253
Literally no one said or even implied this, I have no fucking clue why you would make this response. A protagonist who's helpless and fails constantly isn't a good character either, faults don't = depth, dipshit.

>>83903432
>>83906041
>>83906543
>>83909317
>>83910615
>>83910669
>>83912349
>>83915184

For the longest time I thought those stupid calf-ear-muffs were her actual ears.

I'm not even sure how I didn't notice she have them on through out the rest of the film.

>>83910843
That's exactly the same as Nox and Qilby. Just because they had sympathetic sob stories, they were stil self-important douchebags who you were never meant to agree with. Judith was the same.

Lilotte
LILOTTE!

>>83917363
Underrated post
Athough, by you very own conclusion, posting it was pointless since progressives gonna prog' , they are impervious to logic. Still true nevertheless.

Also I find it ironic how people who won't shut up about being heralds of muh love and muh feelings completely missed the point of Julith's motivation. Claiming she wanted her husband back because her ovaries told her so, or that her knitting something for him is a sign of women enslavement to muh patriarchy ... uuuh ... yeah... because there is no such thing as actual, pure, unadulterated LOVE for another human being (that you happened to marry, no less).
Always count on progressives to reduce women to soulless creatures only driven by their base biological instincts, while claiming they're liberating and empowering them ....

>>83916389
>b-but "WE GUD"
we brotherhood of the forgotten are for the people and the greater good.
we wouldn't use machine that would suck the life out of people.
we don't kidnap pregnant woman and children.

>>83916925
>taking the bait
you're right.. she should of worked to get money and buy a pair.. or she of used their class privilege and order a pair.

>>83918845
>if it ever hits the states
yeah. I don't see that happening.

>>83921848
You kidnapped a Dimensional Voyager to impersonate her and tried to kill a random archeologist for accidentally discovering your plan, in the MMO. Lady Echo is a bit of a dick.

>>83919669
>Enis and Xelors!

You got Lady Echo for the former (according to a dev) and Harebourg for the latter.

>>83903543
The movie needed someone for me to want to fuck though and jew noses or the dog weren't doing it for me

>>83916247
>Pretending to be SJW on a board where everyone is meme-fagging

>>83916366
>Walking stereotype
>This person has never seen or heard any gay people, whatsoever

>>83922405
>Harebourg
>the completely fucking butchered abomination that is Show Harebourg
Anyone have the image, you know the one.
And yeah I know the reasoning for the change, doesn't make it right.

bim

>>83916366
>>83922740
That is, Marline IS a stereotype. But he's a realistic one.

There's no point in complaining about a character being a "walking stereotype" when the original intent of complaints like that is that the stereotype in question no longer applies/never did/is unrealistic. Just admit that you don't like the negative portrayal of a gay character, since that's the most honest you could ever be without trying to hide behind any kind of presumed moral high ground.

>>83922707
Tbh, Bakara has a reverse schnoze.

>>83903432
>Ankama isn't very good
All you had to say

I ended up liking Marline a lot more than when I heard of the character. He doesn't turn on Khan because he rejected him sexually, but because he thought he was a lousy player. Not that the other applicants didn't join in in getting revenge on Khan for that.

At least he got to redeem himself in the finale, which gives him as much of a story arc as most secondary characters in these shows.

>>83923865
Just not my cup of fuck is all

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>>83909725
>>83909767
>>83921346
>you will never go for walkies with Lilotte

>>83903432
who's this cutie? the nose though

>>83914758
Pandawa Temple a best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvmJIr2yadk

>>83923999
Bakara the Huppermage.

>>83924285
many thanks anon

The third or so issue of the Wakfu manga was supposed to come out this month. Anyone have a link, raw or translated doesnt matter. Brotherhoodoftofu seems dead.

>>83924449
release was moved to September, check amazon

https://www.amazon.fr/Wakfu-4-Azra/dp/2359105302?ie=UTF

>>83924489
This is the third time they pushed it back.

>>83904637
yeah, by dying via self sacrifice but not reviving.

Why is atcham so cute

>>83913138
>but can't age up Yugo without completely contravening that point in the OVAs
What is magic

>>83924865
Not something that can fix Yugo's problem in the bounds of their world?

He could take a transformation potion to appear older but it's only temporary.

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>>83922787

This one?

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probably only relevant image from the "Animation Contest' (tour of some sort) video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVXsw3yEa-A

>>83913642

Nox is still one of my favorite villain ever. He's pure perfection with his chaotic good intentions.

>>83922787
What is reasoning for change?

>>83925966
To get the bishi audience

>>83916925
>the writers seem to be implying that her being a woman had something to do with all the badness.
You need to kill yourself.

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Just started on the OVAs.

>make perfect waifu character
>marry her to a literal retard
>rub it in my face with their delayed abortions

Is this how it feels to be cucked? I was having a great day and was looking forward to topping it with some cartoons and now I feel horrible. Fucking Ankama.

>>83926279
Now you know how Elliot felt when Chad fucked the girl he had a crush on.

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>register at ankama shop to buy something
>get my plaintext password in confirmation mail
>login button has lock sign to imply security, but the site doesn't use tls at all

Seriously.

>>83924865
He is old, he's just short.

>>83905566
>And she doesn't have the same MC powers as Joris

They were pretty underwhelming actually. The power to intimidate hair eaters and to fight slightly faster.

>>83916925
But when Nox tried to kill people to get his family back, he was a "fun" villain character. Julith is genderbent Nox. Same motivation.

>>83927077
Just talking about the super strength thing he had going on. Like at the beginning when he threw that ball at Khan or when he was overwhelming Atch during their fight (even though Atch was more skilled, he was pressed by the strength behind Joris' attacks).

It's not about being flashy or stylish, just that it's strong enough for even someone as skilled as Atch to be pressured by it.

>>83927182
He's also still a 10 year old. We see him be a force to really reckon with in Wakfu. All he needs is more experience.

>>83927077
Being able to knock Atcham down in a swordfight when you have no training whatsoever is not "fighting slightly faster."

The ability to run so fast that you cause a shockwave when you take a turn can also have its uses.

>>83927225
Well, no, I believe (from what I've pieced together so far) he lost the two Dofus he was protecting to Ogrest, and the dragon that was hiding inside him had already returned to its Dofus. He's still got his long lifespan and all that experience he's accrued over his years of living, but he doesn't have dragons powering him up anymore by the present times.

>>83918691
It's like a better version of Spawn's cape.

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>This is pretty intimidating...
>I never do anything less than intimidating!
>That's the problem...
>Wanna come to my place instead?
>That would be even worse!

>>83928464
>he poops like everyone else

>>83925966
"Too hard/much work to animate"
>>83925182
Yeah that's the one.

>>83903432
Nice! Not other Mary Sue to empower feminism and diversity! Just get redemption in the end of movie, breed with the jerk of the group and be happy. Thank you, Ankama! Thank you , France!

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New comic coming out on July 8, about the daily lives of the movie's heroes. The pitch being "What do heroes of the World of Twelve get up to between their epic adventures? For some, it's far from glamourous..."

Looks like it'll be a cheap collection of gags, but there's no preview out there.

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>>83928911
>Just get redemption in the end of movie
What redemption?

>breed with the jerk of the group
When was that?

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>>83928968
The fourth Dofus gamebook should also be out soon (supposedly June 22 but Ankama themselves haven't announced it). This time going after the Ochre Dofus, and Otomaï will be involved somehow.

>>83926610
You can use amazon.fr to buy most of that stuff internationally
though the money probably doesn't go directly to ankama

>>83928968

So 30 pages of drunk Bakara?

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>First fight scene was badass, probably the best Kerubim
>Second fight scene was badass Joris and Kerubim's brother
>Third fight scene was alright Julith and Bakara
>Fourth fight scene was pure shit, no fighting just tossing a ball around
>Joris had no effect on the outcome, Julith touched the eggs herself anyways
The entire final scene was unncessary, the only thing Joris did was bring Julith the Dofus.
I wanted to see Joris go through his rites of passage and beat the shit out of everyone, or do some supersaian-tier shit.
I guess we'll just have to wait for Julith: Livre 2.

>>83929250
>not Livre 2: Lilotte

>>83928968
neat, I guess.
Tome 4 when.

>>83929250
I was pleased at the lack of supersaian fighting, I got enough of that from Wakfu.

>>83929660
Ditto. And while I could be annoyed that the finale was just another excuse for one more Boufbowl scene, thinking of all the people who complain about Boufbowl episodes and would rage because of it more than made up for it.

Know about Wakfu for years is it too far gone to get into?

>>83929746
I complain about boufball episodes but I didn't mind it so much.

I mean plenty of things bothered me about the movie but I still enjoyed it overall. No point in focusing on what I disliked.

>>83929908
No

>>83929913
Yeah, unlike the OVAs, the movie's problems weren't enough to really ruin it overall.

Honestly I'd like a villain that isn't some tragic fuck up trying to fix his problems. I want some guy that's just evil for evil's sake or completely insane like kefka

>>83930371
Yeah, sure. I mean, as much as I felt for Nox and Quilby on their particular issues and how it was that they become who they are now, an unambiguously evil villain would be nice.

I did like, however, the change in how Yugo treated each villain. Nox, defeated, was no longer a threat and Yugo could feel that he was too broken to continue on after his plan had failed. Quilby, on the other hand, would remain a constant threat because of how far gone he had become and there was no way to treat that, so Yugo had to regretfully punish him again.

Julith does bring her own flavor of sympathetic villain too, though, in that she has no compunctions in regards to her evil acts in the first place, but sought to better herself first and rise above her selfishness for the sake of her loved ones. She stumbled hard after Jahash died, but set herself right at the end for his and Joris' sake.

Then there's Ogrest who was pretty much just a depressed child. So that makes 4 for 4 villains (never read the comics, so don't know what the situation there is). So who knows if the series will ever move away from this particular theme of tragic villains.

>>83930371
How about Remington? Sure he's not grandiose but with all the shushus that he possesses, he might have some semblance of finale tier baddy.

>>83930587
Maybe if he gets possessed or he betrays the Siblings at a crucial moment to usurp power? But he has that thing with his brother where he'll unabashedly sacrifice himself for him, so he's already partially sympathetic. Might even expand on that relationship and why they are the way they are (that is, why he's siblings with a Bow Meow).

>>83930685
>Might even expand on that relationship and why they are the way they are (that is, why he's siblings with a Bow Meow).
It's like you didn't read the comics or something. You pleb.

>>83903432
No
But at least they look good!

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>You will never live in the WakFus world

Out of everything i've seen or played, it's my favorite.

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>>83930787
>Will never fistfight Iops
>Will never fall for beautiful Sacrier
>Will never drink with Pandawas
>Will never gamble with Ecaflips

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>>83930787
I can't imagine why.

But yeah, it's great.

>>83930787
I'd rather not die from death via ogre tears.

>>83911080
>hosime

meh

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>>83930918
>Fistfight Iops
>gamble with Ecaflips
Good luck with that.

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>>83931382
>fistfight Ecaflips
>gamble with Iops

>>83931402
This, i can get behind.

>>83914497
He is the one who knocks

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>>83931259
but there is a waifu for everyone

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>>83932060
>tfw obscure waifu

Ankama truly has something for us all

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>>83928543

>too hard

Could a kind anon post the webm/gif of Lilotte and Joris rubbing noses.

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>>83933014

>>83930371
We'll probably get that in Season 3.
Adamai is sporting a serious revenge boner

>>83933065
Thank you kind Anon!

>>83933090

He's still relate able

>>83925966

>We want the fujoshi crowd

>>83909454

For me that was the best part of the movie

>>83934165
Sleep tight, pupper.

>>83933947
My first time watching, I felt like they overdid it a bit with the rule of cool, like they crammed too many elements in a fight that could have been a bit more straightforward. Maybe it just feels unusual to have the first fight in the movie be the most intricate and impressive one.

Let's be honest though, I could watch half an hour of that stuff and still want more.

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>>83934165

:3

>>83917085
It's basically fantasy Soccer, which is pretty big in France from what I understand.

>>83934205
> the first fight in the movie be the most intricate and impressive one

You just described S1 with Grougal and Nox not being the grand finale but instead it was a bunch of grass savages and hatboy vs Nox.

>>83918691
I wonder how she kept Lilotte in there? Food/water is a priority for dogs.

>>83930371
Quilby, while a bit sympathetic, was generally evil and insane with almost nothing to redeem him.

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>>83934165
>>83934212
reminds me of this

>>83934409

She got lots of milk stored in those mammaries.

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who /masq/ here?

>>83934607
I have a lvl 138 (I think) masq, did they get nerfed yet?