JSA Storytime: Suicide Squad

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>>83884193
So my ISP went out yesterday for over 12 hours, entire metro area. Sorry about that!

>>83884221
Wow, what? Who are you with?

>>83884193
Hello Storyteller.

>>83884221
No stress. Life happens.

>>83884221

You're back!

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>>83884252
U-verse. They got a lot of really, really mad people. :)

I see Nick Spencer is over his "Rebirth was a nice issue" phase and is into "you're all going to be sorry because DC is evil" again.

Deadshot's laser gun is just a bluff, isn't it? I'm not going to get to see Stalin's eardrums perforated.

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>>83884293
so I started Morrowind

combat is confusing because I can't always tell when shit is coming for me, and Vivec is SO BIG wtf

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>tfw asked for a story with the adult batfam members in this storytime a few days ago
>this crossover where Kate takes Barbara's place as adult member member is announced
I'll take it even if the 'Tec teenagers are in it and there's a lack of Luke and Helena

Also how do you do it storyteller?
First Thunderbolts, then LOSH, and now this small little arc request.

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>>83884324

>>83884324
Yeah, there's no question that in terms of combat mechanics the later games are superior. But when you're a bisected demigod, go big or go home IMO.

>>83884293
Didn't we used to think Spencer was a really cool guy? Now he's suddenly coming off as a bit of a douche.

>>83884221
>Orlando writes the entire Batfam for one month
>MONSTERS EVERYWHERE, ALSO KAIJU AND HERO-CLAYFACE SHENANIGANS

>>83884293
Spencer really doesn't wear his butthurt well

>>83884375
Apparently he was always a douche on the Bendis forums.

>>83884332
The monster designs in this look super cool.

>>83884375
He's always been a social media douche. Or at least for the past year+. Lieber is the cool one.

>>83884293
You doing melee, magic or DICKASSery?

>>83884375
Lieber is the /co/ favorite since he posts here. Spencer got some love by association and since his work was generally enjoyable.

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>>83884373
It always takes me a while to get into one of these

Speaking of games, oh my god Waifu Academy Black Knight is a fucking hoot

>>83884379
I wouldn't eyeroll at it so hard if it weren't so hypocritical

did you all see that IGN article that got discussed?

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>>83884401
>The monster designs in this look super cool.
That they do

Glad Orlando says it's gonna be fun cause giant monsters in Gotham sure sounds fun

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>>83884402
I think I made myself a Dunmer scout

This is a really great Atom scene.

>>83884332
>first crossover of Rebirth is yet more Batwank
Sigh.

On the other hand, I'm with you on the Kate thing. I still love how people got mad when the ex-Marine had the gall to start ordering these little kids around. yeah, how dare the trained military officer take charge. Not like she had any worthwhile training or is an adult or anything. Idiots.

>>83884432
I've never really rated TES combat. I mean I played Skyrim and Dragon's Dogma at about the same time and there is no comparison, DD's dragon fights blow Skyrim out of the fucking water. But I do remember just kind of randomly jabbing at shit without knowing what was going on in Morrowind.

>>83884375
I think marvel has a requirement that you have to be butthurt and shit on DC at least once a week or something

>>83884468
>Dunmer
You're good people, storyteller.

>>83884476
Oh don't worry there's going to be a Superman crossover right after the Batman one is finished.

>>83884476
>wanting other books to be plagued by crossovers

I want the Superbooks to go one full year without a crossover to see if Berganza's head explodes.

>>83884375

His Jimmy Olsen was goat, but he didn't gel with DC very much.

Now he got infected by the SJW Marvel club.

>>83884432
I know you don't play PAD any more, but the most hilarious shit happened in JP

Somebody asked the creator of PAD to roll in a godfest and buff whatever he rolled...so he did. And his pulls were horrible. His first egg was a silver and he cracked up when he realized didn't even recognize one of the monsters... So, he buffed them all really hard! No joke.

>>83884446
I'm interested for the freaky monsters and for Orlando. I think Orlando just kind of gets characters right. Kind of like Ewing, actually? He just handles a character's "voice" very well.

>>83884375
His reputation had its ups and downs. He did some decent DC work, got but there with them and jumped ship, did mediocre work for Marvel, rumors of him being a scandalous politician surfaced, he redeemed himself with Superior Foes, and now he's back in the shutter.

>>83884478
>WAID! Get in here!
>Y-yes Mr. Brevoort?
>My Twitter feed is showing you haven't fulfilled your DC shitflinging quota for the week, and the day is almost over.
>I know sir, I was just about to throw a massive fit about Wally, trust me sir! Just give me an hour!
>You better, or it's your ass on the line

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>>83884509
I was a Skyrim Nord, so this is appropriate

>>83884477
the component of TES 'combat' I like is the "Can I survive fucking around here in the wilderness?" stuff, not "this boss fight takes strategery"

>>83884559

rekt

>>83884477
>DD's dragon fights blow Skyrim out of the fucking water.

You are Mah nigga.

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>>83884546
that's awesome

I just forget to play, I should see what's up

>>83884477
That's intentional, Bethesda doesn't make "being good" a requirement to complete their games. It's a coasting experience with slight bumps along the way.

>>83884557

Waid doesn't need to be toss mud at DC. He does it for free.

Squad solicits are out early. Issue 2 is introducing "a demon-possessed graphic designer named June Moore " and "the most dangerous man in the DC Universe" issue 3 is Harley vs everyone going crazy in Belle Reeve

Jim Lee still arting!

i could never get into elder scrolls/bethedasla games because the fighting was never fun enough to go through

>>83884594
Everything's different again. For the better, but 3x skillups and 10x plus eggs are now super normal.

>>83884293
>I see Nick Spencer is over his "Rebirth was a nice issue" phase and is into "you're all going to be sorry because DC is evil" again.
any choice tweets?

>>83884554

Man I remember joking about how he was the hot new writer who was gonna flame out and disappear and fucker's still around. respect

>>83884559
>the component of TES 'combat' I like is the "Can I survive fucking around here in the wilderness?" stuff, not "this boss fight takes strategery"
Dragon's Dogma kind of has that in spades too. At low levels just fucking around with lanterns at night is nerve-wracking. Worth a look if you're ever uh, looking.

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>>83884594
LOL

>>83884613
At least he's got stuff to be mad at them about.

Joe Quesada really poisoned the well forever.

>>83884511
Nice to see that absolutely nobody thinks for even a second that Trinity is going to be anything but Superwank.

>>83884530
No, it just saddens me to see that DC just cannot resist sucking the Batcock.

>>83884432
>did you all see that IGN article that got discussed?

Yeah and I don't think it's that surprising. Really hoping my "CW2 is Marvel's Convergence" proclamation pays off. They need to fix their shit.

>>83884614
So is the Suicide Squad comic just going to be the Suicide Squad movie in comic form

When will Joker show up
Will he have "damaged" on his forehead

They should've done this in June so it would be over and in trade by the movie.

>>83884614
>>83884596

Bethesda games are dumb sandboxes to toss things in. The only reason they were considered good is that they were doing their own niche and had some funny writing.

Also, tons of modders doing the work for free.

And loli sex mods

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>>83884640
twitter.com/nickspencer/status/743939473096871938

>People forget how much gushing and 'excitement' there was about the New 52. They're born by the minute, you know.

>"This time is different!" Yeah? *checks editorial credits*

>more pages=higher cost. pretty simple. I get they opened with a loss leader, though.

>I think when your reputation has suffered enormous damage, discounting is a plausible strategy

>the horror. me, I'm slightly more concerned about the shoddy treatment of creators.

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>>83884685
The Nine Divines are boring.

Daedra are *never* boring.

>>83884650
I can actually hear the creepy way he stretches out Amy.

>>83884680

Nah it sounds ok. unless you're one of those "Movie team REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" types

>“THE BLACK VAULT” part 2! What was meant to be a routine mission to retrieve a “cosmic item” from an undersea fortress has become a nightmare beyond anything the Suicide Squad ever expected. And with half the team down, it’s up to Harley Quinn, Katana, and a demon-possessed graphic designer named June Moore to save the Squad from the most dangerous man in the DC Universe. That’s right...they’re screwed.
>“THE BLACK VAULT” part 3! It looks like a well-deserved day off for the Suicide Squad—until things go off the rails when the bizarre energies of the dark sphere Amanda Waller’s team brought back slowly drive everyone in Belle Reve Penitentiary to acts of violent, bloody madness. Everyone except the crown princess of crazy, Harley Quinn, who’s somehow been…cured?

god deadshot's new mask is dumb

>>83884699
There's plenty of worry to be lobbed at DC's treatment of creators, but, uh, they're not the only ones, Nick.

His "double shipping is different when we do it" stance is one of the weirdest.

>>83884557
>> Taking another page from the Stan Lee playbook, Mr. Quesada has ended the long period of unnatural détente between Marvel and its rival DC Comics, the home of Superman and Batman, now owned by AOL Time Warner.

Since the so-called Silver Age of Comics, which took place from 1956 to 1969, readers have defined who they were by their allegiance to Marvel or DC.

DC was Dick Van Dyke’s 1960’s. It was The Flash, alter ego of handsome, earnest police scientist Barry Allen, and his reporter girlfriend Iris West, whose sharp, delicate features, Capri pants and hair ribbons made you swoon, but not lust. The lettering was clean, and the art, wide and open, imbued with the sense of Ivy League decorum and buttoned-down sensibilities.

Marvel, meanwhile, was Lenny Bruce. Beginning with the Fantastic Four in 1961, Mr. Lee and his crew created comics that tapped into the roiling social and sexual energies of the time. When the heroes weren’t fighting villains, they were battling their inner demons, unsympathetic cops or other superheroes.

As Michael Chabon, author of The Amazing Adventures Of Kavalier & Clay , the Pulitzer Prize–winning novel about two comic-book writers in the 1930’s, put it: “DC was part of the establishment. Marvel was different. When I was younger, I liked the heroes of DC because they seemed like parental figures. When I was older, I liked Marvel, because they seemed like they were my contemporaries.”

Mr. Quesada is convinced that some good old-fashioned gloves-off rivalry will be good for business. “I liked it when the two companies hated each other,” he said. “It made it better for the fans. You know, if you like DC, then you hated Marvel. If you like Marvel, then you hated DC.”

>>83884716
You're saying everything I like to hear, OP! I hope you dig Morrowind.

>>83884699

he isn't wrong! except I checked and Berganza is away from the Titans books!!

>>83884699
>defending $3.99 and $4.99 books

How did he get this salty?

>>83884699
>>People forget how much gushing and 'excitement' there was about the New 52

Aside from "slutfire" and continuity hangups, nu52 was still plenty readable from the beginning

>>83884699
lmao he is so salty

>>83884699
I can't recall any shoddy treatment stories recently. Who's getting mistreated with Rebirth?

>>83884735
Hahahaha the fucking AOL slam.

Remembering the hell out of the weak ass burns from Marville.

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>>83884756

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>>83884744
I actually really loved the Oblivion expansion where you got badass paladin swag because I can't not play Lawful Good

>>83884734
>"double shipping is different when we do it"
Right, that's just company wars bullshit. And the way he tried to defend the oversized Deadpool issue that Big Bang noted turned off a lot of people.

>>83884716

In Skyrim, you can be in allegiance with 15 daedra at once and it doesn't matter. It's retarded and kills the need to replay the game.

>>83884784
Nick Spencer, somehow, obviously.

>>83884786
>Hahahaha the fucking AOL slam.
>
>Remembering the hell out of the weak ass burns from Marville.
>>“What the fuck is DC anyway?” Mr. Quesada said, stoking the fires. “They’d be better off calling it AOL Comics. At least people know what AOL is. I mean, they have Batman and Superman, and they don’t know what to do with them. That’s like being a porn star with the biggest dick and you can’t get it up. What the fuck?” (Paul Levitz, DC’s president and publisher, declined to comment for this story through a spokesperson.)

>>83884699
Also, the "more pages = higher cost", he has to know that that higher cost is driving a ton of readers away, new or old, right? Trying to milk every dollar you can from a very small readership is a terrible move if you want to actually grow your base, but I guess it's the way of Marvel.

>>83884758
>months from now dc stops double shipping
>the prices get raised to 3.99 for the a list and b list books again
>spencer catches wind of this, vomits plasma from his mouth, red lantern style
>"3.99 is only okay when marvel does it!!"

>>83884735
>Mr. Quesada is convinced that some good old-fashioned gloves-off rivalry will be good for business. “I liked it when the two companies hated each other,” he said. “It made it better for the fans. You know, if you like DC, then you hated Marvel. If you like Marvel, then you hated DC.”

HAHA LET'S ENCOURAGE CONSOLE FUNPOSTING. THAT COULDN'T END WRONG

>>83884699
>>"This time is different!" Yeah? *checks editorial credits*
Honestly, that's a fair point. How the fuck is Berzinga still there? I'm inclined to believe the accusations of blackmail.

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>>83884794

>>83884794
Knights of the Nine? One of the dudes on that was Michael Kirkbride, who is The Guy on Morrowind. He's responsible for most of the weird lore in TES.

>>83884825
I know right

>>83884820
I miss those tweets from that shop in Ireland where the 4.99 price points for #1s did stop people from picking the book up

>>83884825

cause people took it seriously.

hell people on /co/ still think Stan Lee was actually mad at Slott for Superior

>>83884833
Unf so thiq

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>>83884829
Because you can't legally fire someone for shit they did and were punished for just because people are mad years later when they find out, I'm guessing.

>>83884867
That's Big Bang, they tweet regularly about sales, very specifically

>>83884855
yessss

>>83884901

DO NOT SEXUALIZE THE BEAR WOMEN

>>83884829
According to the closest sources, it isn't. It's a theory that's easy to believe though, for obvious reasons.

The more depressing and more likely reality is that DC as a company doesn't actually want to address the sexual harassers in their midst or doesn't even see a problem, much like many, MANY companies do with these issues.

The going standard in a lot of places, not just comics, is that you don't take this stuff up with HR because it's honestly more likely to get you fired. With comics, it's worse, because if you speak about it publicly, it's likely to get you blacklisted behind scenes and fellow creators to burn bridges with you, because they're more likely to side with, well, the shithead and harasser.

Notably, Brian Wood hasn't taken much of any damage among his peers. A lot of people will just side with and defend really bad fucking people.

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>>83884922
this is the best teamup

>>83884829
If he hasn't done anything recent they might not be able to do anything. Already been disciplined internally and maybe the cost of buying out his contract would be too much or it's otherwise just not possible. Hard to know when these kinds of details aren't publicly known.

>>83884699
Damn, she was so perfect in this comic.

>>83884922
Slightly disappointed they didn't go full Nosferatu with Schrek. Love those eyes though.

>>83884938
Johnston said HR handled it though.

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>>83884950
Oh, Werner, this is not the time to show some ethics

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>>83885006

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>>83885023

You know, I want to say, this is one of the best series I've ever read, not just in these threads but in all of my comic readings.

I just love it so much. I'm so glad you've introduced me to this, OP.

>>83885038
Dragon's hoard now? Not horde? This is the New Warriors all over again.

speaking of DC editorial, from Byrne

>There were several meetings, as you might expect, leading up to MAN OF STEEL, and at virtually every one... I brought up the Legion. "You know that's the book that will be most impacted by what I'm doing." The response was each time...a kind of metaphorical tousling of my hair. "Don't you worry your pretty little head about that! We have it under control."...Sure, until six or eight months in, when came the panicked call from my "editor". "WHAT YOU'RE DOING F*CKS UP THE LEGION!!!!".....Like I keep saying, DC is @ really good @ at thinking things thru. @ = sarcasm

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>>83885065
I am happy to share the greatness of this run. It does so many different things well.

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>>83885090
dat fundoshi

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>>83885124
https://twitter.com/steve_lieber/status/744324344310964224

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>>83885149
hey, how are you owls?

>>83885149

BASED LIEBER

>>83885005
And people also forget that the current group editor title is a demotion from where he was before the last incident.

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>>83885168
oh yeah, that Ms. Marvel preview page wherein Carol is all "Profiling is blaming a group! This is narrowing it down to one person!"

this gonna be wanky

>>83885187
I would 100% buy a superficially G-rated Pretzels mini that was loaded with over the head of the kids horribleness

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>>83885217

>>83885168
I'm working, praying my tire doesn't give up on me while driving, and debating what to do in MY storytime.

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>>83885234
watch the royal plural

>>83885168

finished my goldwater book, on to nixon! at some point similarities will stop being scary probably.

i wanna play video games but nothing sounds fun, it's strange. and i have a bad old computer and out of date console.

>>83885168
Eh, really in a black mood today. How are you?

>>83885149
at least he warns them

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>>83885254

>>83885168
>Hey, how are you owls?
Pretty good. Got rid of some more old junk. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

... That's not a metaphor or anything, my house is full of old useless crap, and it's nice to be rid of it so there's actually room around here.

>>83885217

i've already seen people mad about Carol and also Kamala in that preview

>>83884699
>more pages=higher cost. pretty simple.
I don't think DC is the one putting out 3.99 22 pagers

>>83885168
THEY FIGURED OUT HOW TO FIX MY AIRCON

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>>83885257
kind of antsy; I have things to do but now I also have some waiting

>>83885284
I know that feeling

>>83885255
Everything you need for Nixon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXXmjR0aCug

>>83885301
WOOOOOOOOO

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>>83885149

>>83885168
Wonder Woman Earth One came in the mail today!
Not even a month back working again and I've already succumbed to my shelf-growing addiction

Also got me one of those newfangled 4chan passes so I can storytime in style.

>>83885217

>IMPRISONING PEOPLE FOR CRIMES THEY HAVEN'T COMMITTED IS TOTALLY COOL IF WE HAVE A PET INHUMAN
>YOU'RE RIGHT, I WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MISSING SCHOOL

fuck Marvel events so hard.

>>83885168
I got a lot of shopping done today! Feels good to get that all out of the way

Of course I still have a lot of laundry to do

also those Venditti interviews are making me even less enthused about HJGLC which I was not certain was possible

>>83885294
He's referring to the creators. And while I respect his opinions on that matter, the reader doesn't have to give a damn. All that matters to the guy looking at a shelf is that Rebirth is 1.99 and Deadpool was 10.99

>>83885285
I need to search twitter and tumblr for more drama because /co/ related CW2 isn't enough to sate me anymore

>>83885330

superhero comics long ago gave up ideas like due process, hell it's a Civil War tradition. look at the Negative Zone prison

>>83885217
IKR. On one hand, that's exactly what someone who's never been profiled would say, on the other hand, it's said in-character by someone who hasn't ever been profiled and has probably committed racial atrocities against Skrulls.

So, if I weren't supposed to agree with her and the Skrull things were still full-canon, I'd actually be okay with that line. Carol would think that.

>>83885326
>Also got me one of those newfangled 4chan passes so I can storytime in style.

Personally, I use the legacy capchas. Now that I'm done with the series I've been doing, I can post entire issues a LOT faster.

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>>83885326
I kind of want a pass, but I'm cheap

>>83885350
>Venditti interviews
oh, hurk

>>83885358
share anything good that pops up

>>83885366
It's so hard to tell if we're supposed to cheer for Carol like she's Teen Jean, or if we're supposed to be a little nervous and yet recognize it as IC, because it is.

>>83885217
>>83885366

i mean it is literally one person isn't it? like that's what dudes magic is he can say Hulk or whoever is doing it.

amazing how both sides are wrong

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>>83885399
unf unf unf

>>83885270
>>83885325
>>83885399
>Fit, muscular, shirtless Stalin

And sjws say comics never pander to them.

>>83885361
>Negative Zone prison

That was literally alien Guantanamo, though.

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>>83885427
Boomerbutt and Cliffy are a real comedy act

>>83885423
If they wanted to inject some due process into this shit, they should be verifying Homer's visions with a second or third party. They know what to look for and when, it should be doable.

>>83885423
It could have been thought out a lot better.

>>83885326
>Wonder Woman Earth One came in the mail today!
How'd you like it, anon? Don't worry, this is a safe place where you're allowed to have opinions.

>>83885330
>>83885361
This is exactly why events need to stop for a while. Just stop, cold turkey. Go back to urban fantasy, bring back supporting casts, and just do slice of life stuff for a while. This shit has gotten far out of hand.

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>>83885461

>>83885465

that's kinda what Tony wants to do, Bendis is just bad at it.

>>83885485

but then they'd lose money...

>>83885399
>It's so hard to tell if we're supposed to cheer for Carol like she's Teen Jean
Instead of making one side blatantly bad and the other blatantly good this time they are both blatantly wrong

I think they're going to ambiguity on both sides but ending up with "wtf are you thinking"

I'm 99% sure he would be shitting on DC for muh Watchmen if Hydra Cap issue didn't come out the same day.

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>>83885514
lol, you got to make sure you KILL the Wall, you can't halfass that

>>83885517
>Instead of making one side blatantly bad and the other blatantly good this time they are both blatantly wrong

BENDIS

>>83885485
>Go back to urban fantasy, bring back supporting casts, and just do slice of life stuff for a while. This shit has gotten far out of hand.

God, I wish they would do that. The problem seems to be that every writer kind of jettisons the old supporting cast to make THEIR supporting cast.

>>83885517
We need to wait until that happening happens in #3

I bet you that the "one side is comically evil, one is comically good" square on that bingo is gonna get scratched off then.

>>83885545
>black gaijin
Really, you gotta make this a race thing? Dude, don't be that guy.

And to be fair, they did try to prioritize finishing her off, but the new Atom kept punching them.

>>83885515
I guess. Tony is trying to replicate him to make sure he's not lying out of his ass, but the faster way to do that is to call one of their friends in the community.

They may or may not have Billy on tap at this point in the story, and Billy can hax his way into casting a spell that should tell them the future. Or "is homer right is homer right is homer right."

>>83885485
I haven't read it yet (literally picked it up from the mailbox an hour ago).

But I'm the biggest Wondiefag on the planet so I'm REALLY excited about Morrison's back-to-roots interpretation.

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>>83885545
fuck yeah

She Hulk's coma is the funniest thing so far in CW2

>>83885613
>But I'm the biggest Wondiefag on the planet so I'm REALLY excited about Morrison's back-to-roots interpretation.

You will either love it or rage at it. Seriously, it's that kind of of book.

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>>83885619

>>83885606

well like i said you have the good idea and you feed it to the bendis machine and he ruins it

>>83885632
I can't decide if they wanted her to die but the leaks had people shitting their pants so they quickly said put dialogue in about her "biology" and her still being alive.

It's funnier if I were to believe that because it's so believable.

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>>83885647
I haven't read WWEO yet, I need to get in the right mood to sit down, etc.

might get a print copy, since i don't have a tablet to curl up in a chair with

>>83885597
I'm sure it will make itself evident soon

I mean they're doing pretty well already with "Tony kidnapped a college student and attempted to torture him a little" but then they pulled "BUT TONY'S HAVING A MENTAL BREAKDOWN" to keep it less comically evil and just more comical

also I know its' a Bendis book and quips are to be expected but I cannot stand them in something like CWII. CWII wants to be taken seriously but it's surrounded with a really jokey air that doesn't suit at all

>>83885638
Grey Lantern here, meh. I like Yani's art, and I like Etta with the full, ballsy confidence of a drag queen, but I didn't have strong love or rejection. for any of the actual meat of it.

>>83885663
>the bendis machine
actually just an automatic script writer, they pay different fat bald white guys to act as the IRL writer

>>83885670

It's too depressing imo to see the leaks and reactions and think Marvel's response was just "change the dudes name and uhhh i guess She-Hulk isn't dead"

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>>83885675
>>83885670
are they gonna keep Rhodey dead, or just have him crippled ala movie?

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>>83885619
>>83885647
.... Really, Tatsu? That's the look you're going with.

Nah girl, that's just tacky.

>>83885697

I did like how Morrison stuck with no fighting whatosever, even if it would have made it easier to write

>>83885726
He'll be dead for a while but probably not more than a couple years

>>83885733
Katana has rarely had a good costume.

>>83885726

he's gonna get to go live on the moon with Nick Fury

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>>83885733
yeah, that's the vintage look she had until the New 52, I think

it's something

>>83885168
My modem's adapter short circuited or something. Other than that nothing much. Was reading this week's pull and watching Katanagatari. Now I can only read stuff.

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>>83885721
It's so Marvel. Don't acknowledge anything is wrong, move along.

>>83885726
The suit will rez him as an undead cyborg and we'll get Metal Wolf Chaos: Marvel Universe edition once he's elected president.

>>83885726
Bendis has a replacement for him so he might be dead for at least a year

>>83885763
I'm okay with her movie costume being in the comics because that's the best costume she's had tbqh

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>>83885777
I think Mrs. Gradenko is a bear masquerading as a babushka.

is this /d/?

>>83885788

>that image

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGpOvQu-2j4

>>83885796
>I'm okay with her movie costume being in the comics because that's the best costume she's had tbqh
Yeah, I agree. Especially if it comes with some motorbike-fu

>>83885795

>tfw if anyone wanted to do West Wing in Marvel Bendis would shove them outta the way to take over.

probably for the best not to have a superhero politician book actually....

and he shouldn't be president but like a senator or something. i would totally read about Mr Rhodes Goes to Washington

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>>83885819
there's a croppable panel there, lol

>>83885675
I think you'd like it. The main thing that makes the book work is that for once the Amazons are given a fair shake. Not evil, not perfect, just people. There's no strawman shit going on.

>>83885747
That is indeed admirable.

>>83885726
Am I the only one who thinks the way those panties are drawn looks like bizarre feathery white bush?

>>83885796
Even her Bombshells costume is weird, she' was wearing a Chinese dress in the first poster design.

>>83885828

Boob tape on /fit/ girls is pretty hot too.

>>83885862
Well that's just painful ignorance

>>83885819
I wonder if she's named after the Police song.

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>>83885851

>>83885796
the superhero girls costume isn't bad, fuck I want that doll

>>83885747
Honestly I prefer it to her being some thick-skulled warrior chick who stabs everyone and asks questions later.

>>83885893

>chinese dress
>samurai shoulder armor
>katana
>random dragon tattoo

white piggu go home

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>>83885910

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>>83885893
I stopped reading a while ago, so if the reason is that she's a Chinese spy infiltrating Japan, fine. That is sly and I will allow it.

But if she's literally a Japanese woman from Japan, what is this?

>>83885931

Or the person who snaps people's necks while Superman cries

Kingdom Come had some bad characterization

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>>83885862
Yeah, her initial design had a cheongsam-ish dress

at least they updated it to something more Japanese

>>83885951

have any modern day heroes been on the Axis side in bombshells?

>>83885951
Orientalism.

>>83885951
dammit, i can't unsee she's wearing geta with that dress, nobody does that

baka gaijin

>>83885819
Snuff and breathplay? /d/, but you have to wait until the mods are asleep.

>>83885862
>Tatsu in a quipao
Now, while that sounds like a pleasing image, and normally I'd call bullshit on the idea that she somehow ain't allowed to wear mainland clothes just because she's Japanese.... But this is fucking WWII. Hell no.

>>83885998
I know Catwoman is Italian and somebody is German but I can't recall who, but I'm guessing all the Axis-originated heroes are Ally sympathizers/spies/switched sides

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>>83885974
let us all blame Waid/Ross eternally for making Nate blow up all the time

>>83886008
you'd wear geta with a hakama, right, maybe?

I haven't worn my hakama in so long...

>>83886025
>but I'm guessing all the Axis-originated heroes are Ally sympathizers/spies/switched sides

Well that's boring

>>83886058
I wouldn't nitpick geta with most traditional clothing, except that people who actually did stuff outside wore flat sandals and stuff.

Like, no farmers in heels, etc.

>>83886081
Who would you put on the Axis side, out of interest? I'm thinking in particular of someone to act in the role of Erwin Rommel, Cicero, or Otto Skorzeny

>>83886058
>let us all blame Waid/Ross eternally for making Nate blow up all the time

Better that than "the government stooge".

>>83885168
Finally on the waning end of anxiety and fear from Orlando. Helping myself to barbecue chicken today, honestly wishing it was monday and not sunday tomorrow. Everything closes ass early around here on a sunday.

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>>83886136
the awful thing is that now we get both at once.

>>83886154
...sex with nate must be terrible

Speaking of Bombshells, I remember the issue where Diana first appears. Got a good chuckle out of people bitching about some of the Amazons having weird hairdos(TRIGGER WARNING: yes, including sidecuts). As if Amazons would even vaguely conform to Man's World fashions circa 1940s. Silly bastards really are that naive.

>>83886177
...did we settle the idea of whether his metal skin is hot or cold?

>>83885726
Black supporting characters don't get resurrections.

Not speedy ones, at least.

Unless they pull a "we time travel and fix this", he is dead for the foreseeable future.

That all of this is happening during an event where Bendis decides "Doc Samson came back to life off panel" is fucking hilarious.

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>>83886201
Someone go ask Weisman, he surely has full sex files on everyone he's ever written

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>>83886202
it's profoundly shitty.

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>>83886230

>>83886202
Bendis follows the GL rule of "if we accidentally add them to a splash after they're dead, they get a mulligan."

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>>83886254
>>83886260
Didn't he in typical Bendis fashion do some "it actually makes sense you'll see" bullshit after being called on it?

>>83886214
>Someone go ask Weisman, he surely has full sex files on everyone he's ever written
He has posted a ton of information about Gargoyles. Including some sex stuff.

Apparently gargoyle boobs serve the exact same function as human ones, despite laying eggs, because gargoyles are monotremes.

>>83886230
The thing that kills me especially about picking Rhodey for the death is that he has not gotten to do a fucking thing in the comics for years. He was all but nonexistent under Gillen and Bendis opened up his run with saying that he wouldn't use Rhodey much. His relationship with Carol was almost "my girlfriend in Canada" levels of developed. He wasn't doing anything or talking to anyone.

And all of a sudden they decide this guy with almost zero recent page time dying is gonna be the thing to drive the wedge between everybody? You can't intentionally give someone zero page time then haphazardly decide he's super fucking important just for his death.

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>>83886294

>>83886294
We're going full-Dallas.

>>83886260
I'm pretty sure a big part of an editor's job since like the 50's has been that they're in charge of looking for continuity errors like that.

Why are editors so useless nowadays? It's like they only exist to make bad crossovers and ruin other peoples' stories.

>>83886294
He might've, might've not, but I by default assume he did, because he loves pretending he's a detail obsessed dude like Ewing or Weisman.

That and the "why is Carol drinking alcohol" or the "why did a fucking regular missile take out she-hulk".

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>>83886314
>>83886307
It has to be the utterly non-existent in terms of development Carol stuff

Or maybe the whole "we tried two series with Rhodey but we barely supported either--hey, we have two other prominent black guys, this one can go" 'logic'

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>>83884375
We liked Lieber. Spencer got love by association.

>>83886307
>His relationship with Carol was almost "my girlfriend in Canada" levels of developed

Everyone knows it was done to net KSD brownie points.

>>83886307
I'm sure if they spent more time of CW2 instead of rushing it out, they would've made so Rhodey was a big supporting character in both Captain Marvel and Iron Man at least. Maybe be in another team book in addition to that.

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>>83886352

>>83886352
Like about half of the bad Carol plot elements of the past few years, a better writer could have done something with it.

She and Rhodey are in no way incompatible, except that it must be uncomfortable on his part to date a woman he knew pre-mindwipe.

>>83886307
Makes about as much sense as Goliath did.

I do give Bendis a pass on not using Rhodey in his Iron Man much because the Iron Man book has been a mess for years now, so they should get Tony back in a good place before they start making Jim a bigger part.

>>83886352
I want so badly for a tell-all from TNC one day, because he does not look destined for a mutually respectful relationship with Marvel. I want so badly to hear about the behind the scenes for Civil War 2 alone.

>>83886339
>because he loves pretending he's a detail obsessed dude like Ewing or Weisman.

God, I wish we could get someone like that as THE writer at one of the Big Two.
Between Weisman putting an almost autistic amount of thought into his works, and Ewing literally taking the time to explain out of character stuff in events (White Tiger's sword in Time Runs Out was literally stolen from a grunt who attacked her, Thanos was weakened after Secret Wars and stole some Shi'Ar guns), it would be great.

Imagine being able to hear an author say "Don't worry, it'll make sense later" and trust that they mean it.

>>83886415
I'd give him more lenience on that for the same reason if he didn't also decide "Hey, I'm gonna cram Mary Jane Watson into this book now."

>>83886331
>Why are editors so useless nowadays?
They have too much power. On paper, an editor's job is to maintain continuity and characterization, correcting mistakes and working with the writers to keep things consistent.

In practice, the current stock of editors are wannabe writers who have become the driving force of the companies. They want the glory, so they force their ideas onto the books despite not being writers, and thus having no idea what they're doing.

>>83886363
What else has he done besides The Fix and Superior Foes?

>>83886453

>In practice, the current stock of editors are wannabe writers who have become the driving force of the companies. They want the glory, so they force their ideas onto the books despite not being writers, and thus having no idea what they're doing.

i feel like this is inaccurate armchair quarterbacking

>>83886307
Didn't Rhodey get a mini or two that didn't sell a while ago?

>>83884221
Hey, you're doing this for free and it's a major time commitment.

The occasional night off is deserved.
Did a transformer explode or something? You were complaining about the Texas Big heat last thread.

>>83886471
Morning Glories.

>>83886339
>That and the "why is Carol drinking alcohol"
She put soda in a wine glass, clearly!

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>>83886436
I remember. It was called Earth-2.

>>83886475
Yup, which like a lot of their non-core books, they did little to nothing to promote or support. They turned it from an ongoing to a mini before it even came out.

>>83886475
Ongoing downgraded to mini. Before the first issue even came out. Written by Kot.

>>83886475

I think he got one of those ongoings that ended at 6

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>>83886409
They want her to happen so badly and yet they've done almost nothing to make her distinct outside of "woman everyone loves"

god, Cliffy is SO FUCKED UP

>>83886475
Iron Man 2.0 and Iron Patriot; Spencer, then Kot. It hink.

>>83886481
no idea, it was some bullshit, though, I couldn't do any work either

>>83886499
Stop it the pain still lingers

>>83886543
I was talking about Spencer.

>>83886534
A self-contained graphic novel that wasn't an origin story and had a solid plot would've done her better than constantly trying an intentionally milquetoast ongoing, I think. Easier to sell for people who don't want to buy weeklies.

>>83886573
Jimmy Olsen backups and THUNDER Agents.

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>>83886499
GODDAMMIT ANON DON'T REMIND ME

>>83886598
And supergirl one shot RIP the spin off book.

>>83886534
>They want her to happen so badly and yet they've done almost nothing to make her distinct outside of "woman everyone loves"
I've never read any of Carol's books, but from what I can tell just from seeing her in other things, she's:
>grumpy
>a bit of a fascist
>alcoholic
>oddly sensitive to being called fat
>a hardass(due to being military)
Is that not enough to work with? What am I missing here?

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>>83886603

>>83885947
>Russian ex-soldiers gunning down the Yakuza with no losses on their side

Did the guy who made Black Lagoon read Suicide Squad? I know he's kind of a westaboo.

>>83886644
PLANES

>>83886644
The majority of that was thrown away with the new version because it makes her look bad.

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>>83886646
sorry, things are uploading slowly for some reason

OH GOODNESS, JUST LOOK AT THE TIME

>>83886644
I'd be sensitive too - or incredulous - to being called fat if I had a supermodel level body with daily achieved fitness.

That insult continually never made any sense.

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>>83886499
>we never found out because the earth fucking blew up

>>83886644

i thought the fat thing was one bendis panel /co/ harped about. is it actually recurring? that's super depressing

>>83884193
I'm not sure if I heard it right but I think King said on Word Balloon that first issue of Batman sold 350k or something. And it went to second printing too.

>>83886698
>we still don't know what his mom's first name is

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>>83886695
So anon, remember asking about Vertigo not wanting to carry Floyd?

Here we go, page of all pages

>>83884432
>Speaking of games, oh my god Waifu Academy Black Knight is a fucking hoot

Did you see the thread here with two equally stupid groups of people complaining/celebrating that Union Jack is gay in the game, like it was a new thing?

>>83886679
>makes her look bad
>flaws make a character look bad
Uh huh. Tell that to Slayers fans(like me), and watch as they laugh in your face.

Does Marvel editorial not realize that you can be highly successful just by how compelling your protagonist is? Seriously, just look at House, and try to say that the MC being a jerk is a bad thing.

>>83886698
WHEN WILL ABNETT PLRESS THE RESET BUTTON

>>83886696
>That insult continually never made any sense.

That's what makes it so gold.

>>83886734
>Bendis joke
>not being driven directly into the ground

>>83886644
Basically everything you just listed no longer applies after she was mind wiped in KSR's run, because that's the hot way to get out of doing fucked up shit.

Can we mind wipe Hank Pym?

>>83886696
>>83886734
BENDIS

>>83886741
Not as good as "flying half-naked man in underwear saves isreal and all of mankind," but pretty good

>>83886767

I meant by Bendis not people posting it "ironically"

>>83886753

I mean yeah that's their thing since Stan and Jack...

>>83886735
Dang, that's nice

not surprising because it's Batman but still nice

>>83886756
Soon anon, soon. Its prepped and ready now

>>83886753
Even funnier when you remember Marvel used to tout it's "realistic", "human" portrayals of characters as a selling point.

>>83884476
>ex-Marine

Ex-Marine CADET.
She got booted by asking, telling, despite regulations preventing that.

>>83886756
I'm still tickled that he said editorial asked him to fix Earth 2 because readers weren't into it anymore

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>>83886749
hahaha, I didn't see that, that's great

>>83886829
Hey at least that means they're listening

>>83886776
>Can we mind wipe Hank Pym?

You can, but everyone will be there to remind him at every turn.

>>83886679
>>83886753
>>83886776
Her newest run is putting her back to how dhe was again

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>>83886831
FUCK
U
C
K

>>83886829
If that means Dick dies and Val fucks off then I'm ok with it

>>83886339
>Weisman
Who?

>>83886829
>>83886841
>tfw Abnett's recent tenure has been entirely "Hey, Abnett, fix this shit."
>tfw it's been a good ride

>>83886776
>>83886842

At least going crazy cause of Ultron bonding is something different. pym is great

>>83886858

holy mother of clusterfucks

>>83886872
>Abnett becomes DC's continuity fix-it man.

>>83886829
I don't think I've EVER seen a Big Two comic as totally fucked as Earth-2. Like, no matter what Abnett does to turn it around, the amount of wasted potential, characters thrown in the trash, is so excessive that they're just duct-taping a leaking submarine at this point.

Actually, you know what? That is just like the Ultimate universe.

>>83886870
Gargoyles and Young Justice

>>83886858
WHAT A TWEEST

>>83886794
>I mean yeah that's their thing since Stan and Jack...
Well it's fucking boring. That's actually another reason I like WWEO, cause it played up something that doesn't get brought up enough.

I love her, but Diana's kinda really fucking arrogant. She is a princess after all. Yes, she is of course well meaning, but you notice she always takes it upon herself to educate the poor, foolish, unwashed masses of Man's World? She may be right, she might be full of shit, either way she's being really damn presumptuous about this. Glad Morrison decided to make it part of the story. I was afraid I was the only one who noticed.

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>>83886926
He does seem to have some fix-it skills in the toolset. Not everyone does--you have to pick up someone else's crap and actually process it.

>>83886416
the good part about having a writer form outside the industry is that his career doesn't depend on playing nice with them so he really could just air all the dirty laundry almost right when he's done

>>83886749
Hasn't he been gay for like 20 years?

>>83886958
Also that Captain Atom run we just read.

>>83886996
I think he always has, a lot of DnA's work have well-received fixit jobs in there. And there was the ill-fated IC comic, absolutely fantastic stuff from like two pages of lore.

>>83884735
Making it your end goal to makes everything a toxic pissing contest probably makes sense to a guy that helped spearhead the "angry readers are better readers" philosophy.

God I hate Queseda.

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>>83886996
Ben's faces are the best

>>83886926
Hey I liked that he brought up bleed in his JL one shot, it could work.
>King and Abnett make DC cosmic relevant again when?

>>83887069
The guy comes from WH40K writing, he knows his shit working with clusterfucks.

>>83884794
>Nightshade vs. a Shebear.

It's the little things, you know?

>>83886928
>Actually, you know what? That is just like the Ultimate universe.

And it's not really surprising at all. Just more evidence that big 2 creators can't behave without the pressure of status quo.

>>83887076
>King and Abnett will never take over the GL line together
>King will never use the Batman effect to write a literally who team like REBELS or Omega Men for more than 12 issues

i want to die

>>83884794

HA HA! TIME FOR BABUSHKA BEAR!

>>83887146
>>King and Abnett will never take over the GL line together
shiiit, the GL line might actually be GOOD again if they did

>>83887101
Ah 40k isn't so bad once you accept that everyone in the universe is both a moron and a homosexual.
EVERYONE.

>>83887146
>Batman & The Omega Men

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>>83887133
it really is

>>83887146
King mentioned "a pitch" on Twitter the other day

>>83887101
Meanwhile, I struggle to remember that Wilson wrote novels that weren't horrible. Beep boop

I got a robot vacuum today, guess what I named him

>>83887182
>King mentioned "a pitch" on Twitter the other day
I want him to write GL so bad it literally hurts

>>83887182

L E G I O N
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>>83887182
L E G I O N
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G
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I will also accept Green Lantern Earth One

>>83887074
>that fucking Mike Haggar kick

>>83884922
Oh hi, Cocaine, Milk, and Hot Peppers era Bowie.

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>>83887182
it must be my internet chugging along so slow

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>>83887288
let's see if it's the browser

>>83887260
Nah, he still had orange hair then.

>>83887231
I still can't imagine what Legion Rebirth will be like.

I can only hope that Dr. Manhattan's fuckery with them will result in all the best stuff taken from each iteration and combined in a sort of mix and match setting.

>>83887255
>Green Lantern Earth One with Shaner
I would make blood sacrifices to make this happen.

i listened to a War Rocket Ajax interview with Tom Peyer and Mark Waid emailed him Legion questions to troll him. it was great.

they're doing a book together about reverse Shazam now (dude turns into teenager)

>>83887180
He has 10k+ followers after just two issues, Batman won't need to be in the title if King continues

>>83887327
It's going to be Silver Age Legion and they're going to ignore retroboot. Wasn't new 52 Legion Earth 2?

>>83887329
Shaner is too slow tho, it would take 5 years for it to come out

>>83887327

If Legion ends up fighting him I want Manhattan in Time Trapper robes dammit.

this whole rebirth thing is nostalgia so I can't see them not doing a "Best of" lineup (so retroboot + XS and Gates again)

>>83885084
Was Levitz EiC by then?

Was the Superman office handwaving that stuff behind his back or something?

>>83887373
worth it

didn't WWEO take like eight years to come out? I don't even care how long I'd need to wait for King/Shaner GLEO

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>>83887338
that's great, hah!

>>83887327
I'm hoping it's kind of the Pan-Legion-Extravaganza Lemire had going, which was largely Retroboot+

no continuity shenanigans, just focus on stories. show new readers WHY they should love everyone.

>>83887379
People almost voted in Gates as Legion prez once, he popular.

>>83887364

That was one line that got ignored when Lemire did JLU's arc

>>83887383

quick wiki scan doesn't look like it

It'll either be this
>>83887364
because they know Legion should be for Legion fans

Or it'll be some kind of reimagining to appeal to the hip kids of today.

>>83887410
>I'm hoping it's kind of the Pan-Legion-Extravaganza Lemire had going, which was largely Retroboot+
I'm hoping so too

at the very least don't start off with anybody dead

>>83887379
>If Legion ends up fighting him I want Manhattan in Time Trapper robes dammit.
Actually, this. That's far too good to pass up.

>>83887364
>Wasn't new 52 Legion Earth 2?
That was the cop out they went with when everyone got pissed off at all the stupid shit that was going on.

>>83887410

Apparently he did a Legion story where Trans-suits are vital but never explained in the story what one was.

>>83887320
>>83887410
This is the greatest fucking fight scene ever put to paper.

>>83885168
>hey, how are you owls?

Hopeful to improve my mood with this thread.

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>>83887410

>>83887379
I'm pretty sure the end of Rebirth will be the speed force giving itself a body, beating up Manhattan, and then fucking Wally

>>83887446

OH MAN, THEY CAN BE OLD OZYMANDIAS CLOTHES

get it cause he's at the end of time, and looking back

so deep

call me Johns, always available.

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>>83887469
How is Ostrander Deadshot the best thing ever? Because he is.

>>83887427
Regardless it was really dumb of Byrne to write his fanfic and ignore everything pre crisis.

>>83887469
>War. War never changes.

>>83887509

I mean, that's what they hired him for....

>>83887489
stop calling the Speedforce a slut. the speedforce is pure

>>83887410
>I'm hoping it's kind of the Pan-Legion-Extravaganza Lemire had going, which was largely Retroboot+
That would work fine. Giving Lemire some credit for his JLU, the Legion was easily the best part of it, even if it was essentially fanwanking.

>>83887417
Ti'Julk being in charge would either the be the best thing ever, or the worst thing ever.