You tell her Reed

Did she just agreed, that she is scatter-brained?

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Those were such simpler times. Better times.

>Reed, look! Our firstborn son!
>Shut up Susan, can't you see I'm busy in the lab?

I dunno, with some men it's kind of creepy for them to fuck any women, even the smarter ones, because it's equivalent to a normal man fucking a down's syndrome woman.
Reed's kind of one of those, it's always made me vaguely uncomfortable while reading Fantastic Four.
Genius is definitely a burden when it comes to relating to women.

Which one is worse?
Reed Richards or Hank Pym?

http://kirbywithoutwords.tumblr.com/post/133440888577/fantastic-four-29-page-21-in-this-issue-its

>Jack Kirby draws Sue saving the day
>Stan Lee keeps trying to come up with non-senscical ways to make her look like a fool

>>83823963
>Oh, go polish a test tube or something!
what did she mean by this?

>>83826859
His test tubes are filthy.

>>83825142
Reed's got a longer history of casually sexist remarks.

But pretty much any of the domestic violence between him and Sue is the result of mind control or body swapping, when Hank hit Janet, it was all Hank.

>>83826953
To be fair, he was in the middle of a psychotic breakdown.

Then again, Jan tricked him into marrying her when he thought he was literally someone else.

men: 1
women: 0

>>83826980
Psychotic breakdown was kind of a soft retcon, within the story he was just frustrated by his own impotence and incompetence.

>>83827089

Well if you want to play that game, he was never supposed to hit her in the first place.

>>83826953
So they're both alright then, right?

>>83827089
Have you read the story? He's clearly snapped. Even the other Avengers are worried about him, and he's ranting right before the slap.

>>83826953
>Reed's got a longer history of casually sexist remarks.
It's not sexist if it's accurate. Nice try tumblrina.

>>83826980
>To be fair, the artist went off script.
Fixed.

>>83827089
>soft retcon
He was Yellowjacket at the time you dumbass.

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>>83827478

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>>83827688

>>83823963
No wonder she went from namor

>>83823963
I love Kirby's lines.

Yeah, times were different - no real equality.
Go back another fifty years, and it's even worse.

>>83823963
Sounda like the setup to a gender/bodyswap episode

>>83827688
>>83827695
Was he right? Did Cap only get mad because she was a woman? How come Hank had to defend himself? Why didn't he have someone to represent him? Bring in Daredevil.

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>>83828429
No. She was insanely powerful. She took Thor out of the fight in two hits and basically dropped the entire team in a matter of seconds. Cap was talking her down and Yellowjacket shot her in the back.

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>>83828542

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>>83828553

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>>83828565

>>83825559
based stan

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>>83828581

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>>83828593

>>83828565
That's actually a really cool way to use the hammer. I don't think it should have worked though.

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The tides have turned.

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>>83828581
>>83828593
>>83828614
But Cap was wrong. Hank just got unlucky and Cap just got super lucky.

>>83828659
Probably not. I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure that the hammer had been moved by a hand made of magma in an earlier issue of Thor.

Robots could lift it, though

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>>83828815
She'd stopped fighting and Hank shot her in the back. That's the entirety of the accusation. Cap wasn't really wrong.

Though he does doubt himself for it.

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>>83828880

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I like Sue really trying to resist giving Ben an embolism here.

>>83827248
>my feelings dictate what's true, not yours!

>>83828997
>everything is sexist if I say so!

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>>83828614
Cap in the top right panel.

>>83829361
Jeez. Is that really Cap?

That seems a little off for him.

>>83828942
>Naw! We just want yours! Right, guys?

/co/.jpg

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>>83828942
Is there anymore? I want to see him descend deeper into madness

>>83829484
Extremely. I guess the author didn't realize that Cap probably comforted loads of families about dead relatives during WW2.

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>>83829610
There's not a whole lot else to it, but sure. Continuing from >>83828942

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>>83829800

>>83826953

Hitting someone a single time isn't the be-all end-all of being a shit person.

Reed has been consistently much worse than Pym.

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>>83829813

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>>83829830
Man, randomizing the filename has never done me any damn good.

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>>83829850

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>>83829898

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>>83827688 and >>83827695
follow the previous page, so here's where it leaves off.

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>>83829948

>>83823963
>>83828332
To be fair Reed talks down to everyone like this.
Even after doing Ben wrong he still acts like he knows better for him. And more often than not he does, but being a brain doesn't mean you can't be wrong and you definitely shouldn't act like it

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>>83829981
He disappears for two days and only appears in two pages of the next issue.

He hit her pretty good if she can't see out of that eye after two days.

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>>83830055

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>>83830075
This doesn't involve Hank in any way. Just his future waifu.

>>83823963
If only you understood women better, OP.

>>83830053
Intelligence isn't the same as wisdom. Someone needs to knock him down a peg.

>>83823963
>go polish a test tube

She literally send him to go masturbate alone

>>83829981
Damn. Thanks for sharing.

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>>83830098
He disappears for a few issues.

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>>83830274
Take number three at uploading this.

By the way, Stan here will be a recurring character.

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>>83830448
By the way, Tony Stark fucked Jan without telling her he's Iron Man. Don't remember if that happens before or after this, though.

>>83829800
I really feel bad for both of them in this page. Would it kill the Avengers to at least say that his plan would have been a good one in different circumstances?

>>83830645
wait so he slaped here more then once. brutal.

>>83830691
She wasn't his wife the second time around, tho, so no one cares.

>>83826859
He ain't gettin' any tonight so he's just gonna have to jerk off.

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>>83830710
He appeared in some pages rejecting another of Egghead's schemes while in prison. The guards treat him like shit.

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>>83829830
Jarvis want dat cat pussy

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>>83831066
She'd probably oblige if he asked.

>>83830075
>"How's your eye? I guess I gave you quite a shiner, huh?"

Jesus, Pym.

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>>83831235
Again, a few issues without Hank.

This issue features a bonus appearance of OP's favorite couple!
>>83831191
Yeah, he's something else.

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I've gotta go shopping. I've set the rest of this storyline to autoupload while I'm gone. If there's any problems, I'll fix'em when I return.

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As a note, this happened a little over a year after the Slappening. I still stand by my argument that he was obviously written to be in a breakdown during it, but it's made explicit here.

Too bad modern writers forget that.

>>83827089
You mean the impotence and incompetence that Janet was always emasulating him about?

EVERYONE, even the people who hate him because any and all abuse within a relationship drives them to make homicidal remarks, completely forget that their whole relationship up to that point was Pym trying to make something of himself and Janet fucking raining on him parade every goddamn minute. She was literally the definition of being emotionally abusive.

>>83830710
Why couldn't Pym show them the 500 grand Egghead gave him? It would prove Egghead was involved.

Reed and Sue are both fucking cunts and both deserve to be Namor's fucktoys.

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I want to bump this thread but don't know how to contribute to the discussion so instead have some more wasp abuse

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whoops. must've hung up while I was away. Sorry.

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>>83832388
Jan's a millionaire and he could've got the money from her.

>>83823963
Reed should have slapped to hoe hard

javascripjavascript:;t:;

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>>83834736
Just in case anyone wondered how Jen could be clumsy enough to catch a missile to the tits...

>>83824056

hahahahahaha oh man OH MAN

>>83828581
>Hank was right

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>>83835047
How so?

>>83835266
And that's that for that chapter of the Henry Pym Roller Coaster Spectacular.

>>83834797
Science Adventurer!

Wasn't the reason that Hank slapped Wasp in the Ultimates was because she was fucking/cheating with Captain America behind his back? And when he called her out on it, she gets the righteous pimp slap back hand and shrinks away from him, later on causing Rogers to go all "muh chivalry" and beat up Hank?

Which is pretty funny when the guy your wife is fucking comes back to claim the moral high ground and fight you for correctly smacking the bitch for said cheating

>>83835484
Nah, she wasn't fucking him. She hung out with Cap a lot and got photographed kissing him, so Hank beat the fuck out of her, then, when she shrank down, sprayed her with RAID, and when she tried to hide, he put on his ant-helmet and ordered his ants to bite and sting her until she went into shock.

A few issues later, it turned out that this was a semi-regular thing with them. One of Jan's friends was talking about how Hank used to pull out fistfulls of her hair and give her black eyes on a fairly regular basis.

>>83835484
No.

It's outright inferred and stated that they have been in a toxic relationship for years. They both fought and hit each other many times.

It was after the final big fight that she started dating Cap.

>>83835591
She was hanging out with Cap before the fight. She was only his girlfriend after it, though.

>>83829800
Mine I didn't know there was so much depth to their marriage. Both had their issues

>>83835688
A lot of people tend to skim over the fact that Jan was EXTREMELY emotionally abusive and went out of her way to cut Hank off at the knees at times. She was also manipulative as fuck. The only reason Hank was married to her was because she got Yellowjacket to marry her and insisted that it was legal afterwards, and that she did it because 'normal' Pym would never have the balls to marry her.

She spent a lot of time flirting with other guys or talking about how sexy they were to Hank, just to get a rise out of him.

>>83834035
True.

>>83829948
>Hank slaps Jan for trying to stop him
>Sal slaps Hank for trying to stop it
HA!

>>83830161
Bring Reed Richards down a peg? Good luck, outside of chance scenarios which he brushes off the only people on his level are alternate versions of himself or Doom, and in those cases it's more a see-saw effect than anyone getting humbled indefinitely.

>>83836428
Hey, remember how they tried to push Amadeus Cho as the new big brain in Marvel, even correcting Reed's calculations with the rocket after WWH and claiming that the Hulk never killed anyone because he had the same kind of supermathbrain that Cho had?

>>83827688
I love how the Avengers used to be like a legit club with weird bylaws and rules and stuff.

>>83836724
I'll never fathom how anyone thought Hulk Math would go over well.

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>>83836774

>>83836905
>Hulk's handwriting is better than my own

Damn

>>83837176
To be fair, this was back when he was still roughly as intelligent as your average guy. Not exactly the Savage Hulk.

>>83830681
man this fight was well drawn

>>83835824
from these issues, she also has major self esteem issues.

y'know, it's a shame nobody tried to make a comic about janet, hank and the rest of the pyms. You don't normally get relationships with this depth on comics, specially now where it's all black & white.
A straight out story that actually explores their relationship in depth would have been interesting.

>>83838092
Unfortunately, any exploration of that relationship now wouldn't fly very well.

That said, I kinda liked their relationship in EMH, where she was the flirty adventurer and he was the pacifist who basically only fought to be with her.

Maybe if Sue wasn't such a turboslut Reed would be a better husband.

How many times has she fucked Namor now?

>>83838226
0 times.

She almost fucked T'Challa once, though.

>>83830479
And then, he disappears and starts making a helmet to try and prove that Hank was doing everything under the influence of mind control.

Didn't sleep for weeks while making it. It's probably the most sentimental and desperate I've ever read him behave.

>>83838376
70s and 80s Tony was bro-tier. He didn't really get bad until Civil War. He was just kinda... Boring throughout the 90s and early 2000s, then he became the guy everyone hated, and now he's a poor man's RDJ impersonator.

>>83830411
>3rd panel
>The Wrong Trousers

>>83838376
Why did he dissapear at the end of this story though?

>>83831495
You never stop grieving, asshole.

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>>83839131
This.

>>83832861

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>>83824048
The doctor had to tell Reed to fuck off away from the hospital
Why do people like to paint Reed as this uncaring robot? I've been reading a lot of FF lately and that the complete utter opposite of his character.

>>83839579
Funny how Johnny fucked crystal and Medusa now... some guys get all the pusay.

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>>83839346
He was losing control of his life. One of his oldest friends got kicked out of the Avengers and beat his wife. Stane was turning other companies against them and sabotaging Stark International. Someone tried to kill Rhodey with poison spiders, then his body vanished from the hospital. Stane hypnotized his employees and closest friends into killing themselves and trying to kill him. The girl who pulled him out of the bottle last time has vanished.

Oh, yeah, this is AFTER Demon in a Bottle. He already knows he's an addict. He just barely resists the pressure of all of this when his rebound girl, who he's centered his life around, laughs in his face when he asks if she loves him, and tells him that she loves his gifts, his toys, his money, his fame, and his property, but he's just a glossy shell with no substance to him and that no one could ever love that.

>>83831202
>Less than a month
Fucking hell Tony

>>83831105
Tony you asshole

>>83839874
Jan's something of a rebound girl for him right now. His last girlfriend, Bethany Cabe, just dumped him and vanished.

>>83839805
>Funny how Johnny fucked crystal and Medusa now. some guys get all the pusay.
It only took him being cucked by Pietro first, but I guess Johnny won in the long game

>>83831202
This is a good cap moment

>>83839915
Crystal gets around.

She's fucked Johnny, Pietro, the Sentry, Black Knight, and Ronan the Accuser.

>>83839999
In her defense, she didn't have much choice with Ronan and she only fucked Sentry because HES THE GREATEST HERO EVER WHO DID EVERYTHING GREAT FOR EVERY HERO EVA

Yes, I'm still salty about how Sentry was introduced.

>>83824056
Don't worry anon, one day some girl will look past your autism

>>83840068
Reminder that Sentry took Rogue's virginity and we only found out they knew each other at the funeral.

>>83835266

Awwww, man, I haven't read these since they were first published.

Memories, feels...oh the feels...

>>83840355
old

>>83840592
We all get old, Anon, unless we die young.

>>83840834
I'd rather die at some other point

>>83825142
Reed was a sexist arsehole even by the standards of the time Hank hit his wife a couple of times because he was angry about stuff

>>83827695
I love that 4th panel it perfectly shows there reaction to his breakdown.

I really must comend the artist

>>83842031
That'll be Bob Hall on pencils and Dan Green on inks.

>>83828565
This is a good story but I sure as hell am glad we use <> to denote a difrent language these days

>>83842095
They were using that even back then. This was 1982, or thereabouts.

I don't know why the letterer here didn't place them. To be fair, I left out the opening of the issue, where they establish that these characters aren't from modern times.

>>83828581
I'm liking this Hank sick of nobody taking him seriously is so desperate to prove himself he shoots somebody while there down

>>83828695
Oh snap

>>83828815
Cap was clearly getting through to her.
Sure he Couldent see her face but they were both just standing there

>>83828896
I can very much understand why cap was so mad

>>83828942
I'm liking wasps compassion here she can tell that the way they are addressing her over him is getting to him and works to fix the problem

>>83842272
Yeah. She can be manipulative and emotionally abusive, but she really DOES care for him and love him with all her heart.

>>83835688
I get the impression that she was just saying that to cheer Hank up.

>>83829910
It wasent even really a domestic issue

>>83829981
That was really good

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>>83828695

>Sue in a maid outfit

My dick is so hard it could literally give The Thing a run for its money.

>>83830098
She and the cop are both right in a way I guess.

The guy who grabs her but is a complete arse though

>>83842646
>the cop
>right

No.

>>83839866
Damn.

I have been strugglin to find good Iron Man run before Civil War.

What do you reccomend Anon? I tried some early 2000s and 90s stuff but aside for some sprinkle of good ideas, nothing really interested me.

>>83843256
Yep.

>>83823963
I've read enough comics, this ends with Susan turning Reed into a chick.

>>83823963
Fantastic four was really really bad for this, the fact that she's the invisible "girl" is pretty telling. Even in the 90's they had some weird gender politics in their books too, I'm glad they have moved away from this sort of thing.

>>83834052
>Big Gook
For Yu