Just finished reading this. I don't understand. Is it supposed

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>>83795966
>I don't understand.
You just aren't smart enough to get it, normie.

>>83795996
uhm, what?

>>83795966
I might vote for loki. Trump just said he was meeting with the NRA to prevent people on the no fly list from buying guns. Which hurts him in my mind. Clinton is a piece of shit gun grabber, sanders is a piece of shit gun grabbing commie, green party is shitty gun grabbing commies, and libertarian party ticket is dude weed, lmao, also weak immigration laws and gun grabbing

>>83796049
But that's fucking logical you nit. Why would criminals and suspected terrorists be allowed to purchase guns? It doesn't affect the average Joe like you or me who assumedly do no crimes.

>>83795966
>ANTS image

Storytime of Purgatory?

>>83796154
>a secret list that people can get put on for no reason and don't get a trial

Fuck off it is a violation of people's right to a court trial and to innocent until proven guilty.

Get a warrant and have a trial fat fuck. No thought police

This books art was cringingly bad and boring as hell. It took this rediculous concept way too seriously. Maybe we will get to see boring Latino women protagonists life get torn apart by Loki, but I doubt anything so satisfying will occur.

>>83796049
>Muh guns
Literally the most inconsequential of all major political debates.

>>83796231
I don't get you Americans. You're okay with registering a driver's license but you're not okay with doing checks on people who want to buy guns.

Plus, you want the right to operate military-grade hardware. Which is fuckweird, in my opinion. I can understand about wanting own a semi-auto, a shotgun or a rifle, but why in the actual fuck would you have or allow the ownership of a God-damn M4A1 or Kalashnikov allowed for civilians?

I'm not saying totally get rid of gun ownership, but certain weaponry must not be made available to the public because of the threshold and threat they hold. Uzis and that sort of thing come to mind - things SOLDIERS would be carrying around.

I'd really like background checks prior to the transference of weapon ownership for all your sakes, too. If you guys are okay with a driver's license and a registry there should be no problems with this.

>>83796322
The most consequential. Clinton wants to ban cc, the individuals right to keep and bear arms, and pretty much all guns. After that happens you become the cucks like Europe.

You know what doesn't matter, fucking abortions, lgbt, blm, any social justice bullshit.

The only things that matter are the constitution (ie guns), taxes, and the boarders

>>83796379
A. Full autos are heavily regulated and have been since the 30s. Actual military guns made after ww2 only exist in private citizens hands if they undergo a super hard background check and pay like $30,000+. Only one person has been killed by a legally owned full auto since 1930 and that was a cop illegally shooting someone.

The guns they want to ban are semi autos, background checks are just a way to tax people, because you can just exchange guns for cash like people do with drugs, and the reason no one wants a registry on guns but it is OK with cars is that cars aren't protected by the constitution and no one confiscates cars in mass

>>83795966
Maybe it's just Loki trolling an entire nation, because he's a good guy but still a prick? You'll notice it went out of its way, to an arguably autistic degree, not to make fun of any particular side or politician, except MAYBE that New York mayor with the bridge incident, and even that's vague.

>>83796398
What makes the Bill of Rights so untouchable anyway? It's not like amendments haven't been overturned before.

It was a hilarious book that wasn't completely one-sided so I don't see the problem.

4chan's political understanding is literally clickbait tier.

>>83796379
The AR-15 isn't a military grade weapon. It's the civilian model of the M-16, and isn't an automatic assault rifle. An AR-15 doesn't fall under the definition of an assault rifle either. The civilian AKs are also not automatic. There are semi-automatic hunting rifles, are they also "military-grade" guns? Liberals don't like it because it's colored black and looks like those awful guns in the movies, but an AR-15. Soldiers do not carry ARs. Also Uzis are illegal in the US, as are all automatic weapons unless you're willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars in taxes.

>>83796537
There is a difference between amending the constitution and just straight up fucking the bill of rights without having an amendment. And as it stands the gun grabbers know they can't get rid of the second amendment with an amendment as it would take 36 States

>>83795966
Why are Trumpfags so easily butthurt?

>>83796537
Because the Bill of Rights aren't rights given to us by the state but by our very existence as human beings. They are universal, inalienable, God-given rights that should apply to every man, woman, and child on Earth.

>>83796706
They're just like Trump himself.

>>83796597
Funny because the last two pages were a joke at clickbait's expense.

>>83796703
I think he meant why is the first ten amendments are so special when the 21st exists, which was basically "Yeah, we fucked up with one of the other Amendments. 18th doesn't count."

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>>83796398
You think anyone's personal collection of guns would do anything against the firepower the govt has if it ever came to blows?

>>83796231
you could just fix the list so it could be useful then instead of doing nothing

>>83796724
Every child has the right to keep and bear arms?

>>83796706
It's more like
>hillary says she will do x
>well I won't vote for her cause I don't like that
>you are paranoid hillary never said she would do x she will just do you
>are you kidding me? She said she would do x right here and also doing y isn't any better I would still hate her if she did y
>wow you trump fags are so easily butt hurt

>>83796183
Yes, let's make this thread actually worthy of being on /co/, rather than let it stay as a very poorly hidden /pol/ thread.

>>83796786
Where did anyone mention Hillary?

>>83796724
Either you're thinking of the Declaration of Independence ("Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness"), or you're an idiot.
Seriously, have you read the last 8 Amendments? They're pretty governmental.

>>83796771
Do you really think that the US army would use those weapons of war against it's own citizens? That a pilot would drop a bomb on an American city or town? This isn't the middle east.

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>>83796809
And that's why they're not the Bill of Rights and just amendments.

>>83796761
Because there is a possess for that and the gun grabbers aren't going through that process.

>>83796771
Yea Just like those Vietnamese.

>>83796772
It still fucking Violates the fact everyone deserves their day in court and that you are innocent until proven guilty. The government has no right to deny people of their rights with out due process

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>>83796794
Fuck it, let's do it.

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>>83796724
>god says to sell guns to terrorists to kill americans
sounds like a good plan to me

>>83796771
You think the government will use tanks and fighter jets on their own citizens? Do you realize how bad that would make the government look? There would be fucking outrage and condemnation.

>>83796809
The Bill of Rights are different than the other ammendments. The founders meant them to be representative of unalienable rights. That's why nobody's touched them in over 200 years.11

>>83796813
They're not gonna just give up on arresting someone if they keep shooting down the cops they send.

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>>83796847
Say what you will about the art (and good lord does it have problems), at least Loki doesn't have that god awful pube beard.

>>83796809
Bill of rights are just amendments 1-10. First there was the constitution then after that was written there were 10 amendments to the constitution called the bill of rights. The rest of the amendments are amendments to the constitution, but not part of the bill of rights

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>>83796835
Prez a gun grabbing shit
>not my prez

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>>83796868
Cops are usually pro second amendment. Also I'd be much more scared of trying to arrest someone shooting at me than someone who can't

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>>83796935
Remember all those "HYDRA was right" shitposters?

>>83796835
>a "liberals are always right, conservatives are always wrong" comic

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>>83796724
>Because the Bill of Rights aren't rights given to us by the state but by our very existence as human beings.
No, they are literally decided by the state. Rights only exists when the guy with the biggest stick says they do. I'm not saying that's how things should be, but that is the way they have been and always will be.

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>>83796929
They're not gonna just let you go, nig. They'll just bring in more guys and guns until they get you.

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>>83796973
Did you read the comic?

>>83796992
>giving up your stick because the government says so

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>>83797032
Yes, yes I did.

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>>83797047
This may be a bit of a pot-shot at conservatives, or it could be because they knew this would have to be addressed at SOME point, less people like us whine about it.

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>>83797045
Your stick is a used matchstick.

>>83797047
Ancient deity of the Norse and Marvel villian since the 60's = recent pop culture icon -_-

This page is also pretty stellar at emphasizing how shitty the art is.

>>83797076
madman

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>>83796964
>HYDRA has the minority vote

>>83797127
those thighs!

>>83797127
THICC
Too bad about the rest of the art.

>>83797127
T H I C C

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>>83796871
no, hes a five o clock shadow

>>83797112
Better no stick at all

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>>83797156
Here's hoping they don't address the horseshit that her solo series was at all, and that her pet lesbian is rotting in the same hole they dropped Alpha into.

>>83796835
>not Prez Rickard

>>83796629
There's nothing liberal or conservative. Your government should decide the kind of weaponry that they're willing to leave in the hands of the people. I'm not trying to sound like a drone, but these are the people you elected into office. Who your democratic collective decided was worthy.

Either start revolution and tear them out or listen to them. Stop sitting on the fence and complain about the liberal vs conservative angle.

The government is the collective janitor for the high school that is the state.

Liberal or conservative, really?

Just put a license check and put in a background check like that episode that Homer did with a gun. Only to make sure that the ownership of that particular weaponry is checked every year so you know the owner isn't lax and sells it off to someone who wasn't approved mentally.

>>83796474
If you're okay with one you should be okay with the other. I'm a Muslim and you can hate me for it, but if there's a sign-off from the Government or a local body saying I'm trustworthy in triplicate with eyewitness testimonials, you'd feel a lot safer with me next to you than you would without that label on me, right?

Just do that. You guys want to put me in a hole anyway. Just do the same thing, but with guns.

>>83797172
It's really not.

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>>83797224

Good gods this art makes my eyes bleed

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>>83797247
Look at it as a litmus test to see who actually read it, and if they're just shitposting. Ask them what they thought of the art.

Thanks for the Storytime anon, it's interesting to say the least.

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>>83797153
WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT THIGHS?

>>83797255
>Chuck Klosterman
Why am I not surprised?

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>>83797156
>total access
>gestures to his dick

>>83797286
why is jane foster angry about loki? She doesn't have the relationship with him that Thor does

>>83797208
Get fucked you trip fag piece of shit. The majority should not be allowed to control the minority. I don't know what shitty nation you are from, but here all men and women have rights and the government cannot take those away regardless of who is in power. You can seriously get raped. And no one said a fucking word about Islam in that post

>>83797304
Why is an Hydra agent allowed to punch the future President?

A bit wordy, but I had fun

>>83797286
Her thigh is twice the width of her torso. How is that possible?

>>83796154
The problem is that the no fly list is secretive and there's no real rhyme or reason for who ends up on the list or how. So you can not have done anything wrong, end up on the list "by mistake" (it's hard as fuck to get off of it once you're on) and one of your constitutional rights is taken away from you just like that.

>>83796154
It's the same as with most pro-gun logic: it makes sense if the government goes nuts and starts putting pacific political dissidents on the list.

Trump is just as corrupt as anyone else running, but smart enough to get elected by manipulating Americans unsatisfied with liberalism and PC culture.

>>83797354
Jane is bitter about all the times she was kidnapped and mind controlled by Loki.

>>83797427
Like you know, Sweden or China does

>>83796379
More than ownership it's carrying laws that are a bit fucked up. Switzerland does it better.

>>83797304
Why should we listen to what Steve Rogers thinks? He's a Nazi!

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>>83797093
Poor JJJ, dealing with madness

Both sides just end up sounding like annoyingfags anyway.

>>83797476
Switzerland is just more monoethnic. The only thing Switzerland does better with guns than say Texas is that Switzerland gives you a free sig

So, if Loki is just hanging out in public on Midgard, why isn't everyone in Asgard going after him? Why isn't Jane going after him? Aren't they pissed that he suposedly tried to kill his mom?

>>83796724
That's not true, you're thinking of human rights.
>God-given
Oh you were joking

>>83797304
Thanks, anon.

>>83797549
Bill of rights are all the basic human rights. It's an inclusive list anything on there is a basic human right and anything not on there is not

>>83797503

> came rolling in and took it (indians)
> kidnapped (blacks)
> rational

>>83797647
What exactly are you trying to say?

>>83797468
I'm not saying it can't happen, hell it has happened in the past and private gun ownership didn't do dick to stop it.

>>83797503
Why should I apologize for the deeds of my ancestors who I had no control of and who's methods I now disagree with? Also whites bought slaves in Africa, they never kidnapped them. Africans did that to other Africans, furthermore America was pretty much never involved in the transport of them to the colonies/USA. Slavery is obviously wrong but that's just distorting history.

>>83797580
Declaration of Independence stated what the inalienable rights were. "Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness". That was it.

>>83797710
So we should just roll over and take it? Fuck That

>>83797729
JJJ never says you should apologize for anything, all he says is to stop trating non-whites as the enemy.

>>83797742
And the Bill of Rights is an extension of that. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

>>83797121
Marvel Norse is not real world Norse.
When Dr. Strange first met Loki he had no idea who he was and thought he was completely trustworthy. In that world the myths the character are based on aren't widely known, and may have never been told by humans in the first place.

>>83797742
Are you even America? Declaration of independence is literally us telling England to suck A fuck. It has nothing to do with US law or the constitution

If it did euthanasia and abortions would be illegal

>>83797693

That he isn't being 'rational'.

Blacks weren't 'kidnapped' by the evil whites, they were sold as property with many blessings from the African princes (which also engaged in slavery).

Indians weren't kicked by invading Europeans, most of them agreed to sell their lands... many of them for trinkets.

That's the 'standard liberal' view of story aimed at always making the upperdog look bad, ignoring that blacks enslaved each other, that indians also fought and displaced other tribes for territory.

>>83797535
Switzerland arguably has never been monoethnic, let alone now when there are major cities where most people are foreigners. I guess you mean monoracial.
And fuck yeah the carrying laws are better, it's much harder to shoot up a public gathering when it's illegal to go around with a loaded gun on you.

>>83795966
but Trump is a white RACIST! We have to mock him constantly and ignore his points

>>83797580
But they're literally not universal, they only apply to US citizens.

>>83797304
Did the bullet bounce off caps ass and into his shield?

>>83797807
>Blacks weren't 'kidnapped' by the evil whites, they were sold as property with many blessings from the African princes (which also engaged in slavery).
Yes, the blacks enslaved each other, your point? The problem is that blacks viewed slavery the same way the Romans did, you capture someone from somewhere else, he's a slave. Americans saw slavery as the rightful position of black people. You're arguing over semantics, the point remains that America engaged in slavery, it doesn't matter whether or not they were the ones that captured them in the first place.

>Indians weren't kicked by invading Europeans, most of them agreed to sell their lands... many of them for trinkets.
Now you're the one distorting history. Remember the trail of tears?

>>83796154
>suspected terrorists

SUSPECTED terrorists aren't criminals. You can't take away people's Constitutional rights on a suspicion.

>>83795996
Fuck off snyder

>>83797304
Who do they have hamburgers and hot dogs for guns?

>>83797763
You'll do that whether you have guns or not. You rolled over and took it when they imprisoned innocent Japanese-Americans or communists, and when they passed the patriot act, and you'll roll over and take it next time too.
Guns don't protect people, people protect people.

>>83797862
Obviously, Anon. Can't you do that too? Or have you been skipping your Squats?

>>83797816
That means the carrying laws are much much worse. And besides the US only has so many murders because black people commit 52% of all murders over Crack. And that isn't even including all the murders by race unknown

>>83795966
Politicians are lairs. Loki is a lair. It's a good fit for him.

Most likely this is just some sort of master plan of his. Like president is not his main goal. Like he's running to divert attention to something or the process of running will lead to something else.

>>83797580
>Bill of rights are all the basic human rights. It's an inclusive list anything on there is a basic human right and anything not on there is not

The whole point of the 10th Amendment is to explicitly state that the Bill of Rights is NOT an all-inclusive list.

>>83797925
>you rolled over and took it when things happened 50 Years before you were born
>you rolled over and took it when you were 10 and 9/11 just happened

Yea fuck me for not being born before the 40s right?

>>83797304
If a Nazi like Steve Rogers is against Loki, than Loki must be the good guy.

>>83797807
>Indians weren't kicked by invading Europeans
Really? You're seriously claiming that? Did you learn nothing in history class?

>indians also fought and displaced other tribes for territory.
And that makes it OK to kill them and forcibly remove them from their land because...

>>83797889
So Muhammad Akbur who recently immigrated from Syria and has known connections to ISIS isn't worth being on the list?

Gtfo you libcuck.

>>83798009
>known connections to ISIS isn't worth being on the list
Of course he'd be on the list, if he has a known connection to ISIS he isn't a suspect anymore

>>83797427
Not really. No civillian arms are gonna stop them from coming after you.

>>83798009
Your hypothetical isn't an American citizen, and wouldn't be protected by the Bill of Rights.

The Orlando shooter was an American, and until he committed a crime, was protected by the Bill of Rights.

>>83797931
No that's much much better.

>>83797878
> Yes, the blacks enslaved each other, your point? blah blah irrelevant things

The point is that it was no kidnapping, it was commerce between consenting parties. We owe nothing because we already paid their princes for that.

> Now you're the one distorting history. Remember the trail of tears?

...which has nothing to do with what happened when Europeans first came into our country.

>>83797807
You're falling into the trap of going from "whites are evil" to "whites dindu nuffin".

>>83798009
>pro-guns
>pro-Constitution
>liberal

You have no clue how American political divisions work, do you.

>>83798055
But it sure can stop them from reaching you.

>>83798009
Why was he let into the country in the first fucking place?

>>83797961
Oh yeah because millennials are born fighters, not like those pussies in the 40s

>>83798090
>The point is that it was no kidnapping, it was commerce between consenting parties.
The slaves were not consenting.

>>83798116
>But it sure can stop them from reaching you.
Not really. You ain't gonna hold out for long if you've shot at cops.

>>83798085
>can't protect yourself from black people trying to mug and rape you
>better

Also literally what is to stop someone from loading up the gun and shooting a bunch of dudes? Pulse was a gun free zone. NJ has more murders per Captiva than Texas and it is illegal to have a gun outside your home in NJ

>>83798055
I'm saying there's a logic to it, not that it actually works.

>>83798090
>it was commerce between consenting parties
I'm pretty sure the slaves never consented. I agree that we owe nothing now since it happened a long-ass time ago.

>...which has nothing to do with what happened when Europeans first came into our country.
It's still a part of American history, just because genocide didn't happen when white people first came (which is debatable, I'll have to look that up) doesn't mean that it didn't happen a lot during the 19th century.

>>83798006
> Really? You're seriously claiming that? Did you learn nothing in history class?
> I only seek info from liberal teachers

Go read a book. Indians-europeans relations was pretty varied.

> And that makes it OK to kill them and forcibly remove them from their land because...

...because they already do it to each other? I can't really give a fuck about a people who would collect heads as a daily occurrence.

>>83798158
If there's gun confiscation going on, it won't be only one person shooting back at the cops. It'll be half the country.

>>83798118
He was born here. The issue would be his parents being let in.

>>83798118
Ask Obama. Or Hillary.

>>83797580
They were written by people, not prophets or dieties. They're not absolute in any sense.

>>83798191
Reminder that nobody gave a fuck when machine guns were banned, or when boom-sticks were confiscated post-Hurricane Katrina. Hell, only a few motherfuckers turned out back in 1776. This "half the country" meme needs to stop.

>>83798135
>The slaves were not consenting.

Go cry to the ones who enslaved them then.

>>83798171

> I'm pretty sure the slaves never consented.

See up.

> I agree that we owe nothing now since it happened a long-ass time ago.

Good.

> It's still a part of American history, just because genocide didn't happen when white people first came (which is debatable, I'll have to look that up) doesn't mean that it didn't happen a lot during the 19th century.

If it was 'genocide' then I guarantee you not a single one would be left alive. That was more like 'not caring' because frankly they needed more space for more advancing things.

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>>83798191
>Half the population will fight to the death over owning guns

>>83798253
>or when boom-sticks were confiscated post-Hurricane Katrina

What are you talking about? There's was mass outrage, and the state had to relent.

>>83798270
>Go cry to the ones who enslaved them then.
If you buy slaves from someone and continue to keep them as slaves, you're just as guilty as the initial enslavers.

>>83798296
After the fact, that is. Nobody stood up with rifle in hand and told the cops to gtfo, they just rolled over.

>>83797188
Hey,Asgard's Assasin was pretty alright and Witch Hunter was great, it was Queen of Hel that sucked.

>>83798188
>...because they already do it to each other?
You are an absolute retard if you think that a society where war crimes happen is free game for inflicting war crimes on.

>>83798188
>Go read a book. Indians-europeans relations was pretty varied.
Yes, they were varied, I know full well that some Europeans got along fine with their Native neighbours. Still doesn't change the fact that it's undeniable that other Europeans targeted them for genocide (spreading diseases on purpose, exterminating the buffalo, just shooting them) and kicked them out of their lands.
Just because one is able to recognize that some people in our country did bad things doesn't make one a liberal.

>>83798270
It was genocide, look up the definition. They didn't need to kill them all, but they wanted to kill enough of them so that they would be more easily coerced into leaving their lands.

>they needed more space for more advancing things.
Really? You're actually trying to justify it? Pathetic.

It is important to learn from the mistakes of the past in order to not repeat them, but it's clear you've learned nothing.

>>83798310
That's because most people weren't in their homes, they had evacuated because of the hurricane.

>>83796154
Hey, is your name vaguely similar to someone on the No Fly List? No? Well your on it anyway. That's how easy it is to get on. See the problem?

>>83798339
>It was genocide, look up the definition. They didn't need to kill them all, but they wanted to kill enough of them so that they would be more easily coerced into leaving their lands.

So the Muslim rape/murder invasion of Europe is genocide?

>>83797224
THICKER

>>83798169
Black people don't rape and murder on the streets there. Besides that's what the police is for.
What's stopping them is that they'd probably get caught as they enter the public gathering with a gun.
Maybe a better police is the solution, rather than letting people police each other.

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>>83798270
>Justifying the Trail of Tears

>>83798297
> If you buy slaves from someone and continue to keep them as slaves, you're just as guilty as the initial enslavers.

Eh, no. Buying a product is not the same as producing it, be it whatever illegal/amoral thing.

And really, if we hadn't brought them they would stay as slaves in Africa, just serving other tribes. It's not like they were enslaved to supply a demand.

>>83798364
As of right now, no. There hasn't been a concerted effort to kill white people and take over Europe. Yes some nutjobs shoot up places, but those are acts of terror, they aren't going to kill most white people like that.

>>83798343
This is very true. Teddy Kennedy, for instance, was on the no-fly list and got stripped search a bunch because he shared a name with an IRA terrorist.

>>83798421
What proportion of the population do you have to kill or brutalize for it to be considered genocide?

>>83798405
Buying a product is condoning it's production, and continuing to have them enslaved means you're doing the exact same fucking thing they were.

>>83798342
They weren't though. The New Orleans city-wide order was to confiscate all civilian held firearms. Said confiscation was carried out with no warrants and in some cases excessive force, both of which would not be relevant to the situation if the seizures were being carried out in empty homes.

>>83798382
>what is canceled carry

>>83798463
no warrants was exactly why they did it when no one was home.

The handful of people who had sheltered in place or managed to return home were the ones on the receiving end of excessive force.

>>83796049
Sanders is Pro gun.

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>>83798405
>Justifying slavery

>>83798335
> You are an absolute retard if you think that a society where war crimes happen is free game for inflicting war crimes on.
> war crimes

Thanks for the laugh. It wasn't a war crime, it was the standard war practice who was practiced by the local people. Which, to add, wouldn't even be 'war crimes' if we hold the morality at that time.

>>83798446
>What proportion of the population do you have to kill or brutalize for it to be considered genocide?
There needs to actually be a concered effort to kill/displace white people in Europe. So they would need to kill millions of people to pull off taking over and getting rid of whites as the majority.
If you want to see what genocide done by muslims is actually like, look at what ISIS has done to christians and the Yazidi in their territory.
Nothing like that has happened in Europe, so stop fearmongering about genocide, there's plenty of other arguments one can use if you're against muslim immigration, but that one has no basis in reality.

>>83798540
Isn't he for banning the AR-15 now?

>>83798536
The lack of warrants would not be necessary post-evacuation, as an empty home in the middle of a disaster zone would be probable cause enough to search.

Regardless, half the country would not rise in the face of a mass confiscation.

>>83798405
Look, I get that you want to defend your country, but recognizing one's faults is not a bad thing. America doesn't practice slavery anymore, so there's no reason for you to be ashamed about what happened a long time ago, just recognize it as something that happened, and move on.

>>83796809
The Bill of Rights is a very specific set of amendmemts put in place to guarantee the inalienable rights mentioned in the Declaration of Independance/etc.

It was put in place for the exact reason some asshole down the line wouldn't decide "yeah, no you don't have that actually."

The later ones are explicitly there because America is a case law country that pulls from the Constitution. So when we run into issues (like "no, blacks aren't citizens") it can be changed to adjust for the times.

The 18th Amendment is the result of the same emotional overreaction we are seeing against the 2nd now. And getting rid of the 2nd will only end the same way.

>>83797367
You voted for the damn Government.

What the Hell are they for if you don't want them to do their job? You guys are so busy arguing and thinking your opinions have weight that nothing's being done.

Just do something. Have your whole country take a damn stance on it and let it go, bodies or otherwise. I'm sick and tired of you guys keyboard-warrioring opinions like it's something.

>Majority not allowed to control the minority
That's democracy. When a 75 percent swing goes one way, the 20 percent goes the other and 5 percent on the fence. That's what you guys do.

That's what your AMERICA is FUCKING BUILT ON. The power of the GOD-DAMN PEOPLE. Put it to fucking use. Get the officials out of office or get busy. Run your own country.

With all the guns and booze and with zero complaints. That's what I'm telling you to do. Not asking. Telling.

You guys keep telling me you're the greatest Democracy on the planet and Remove Kebab/Mudslime and I go "okay". Fair fucking enough.

DO SOMETHING. GET OUT THERE. SHEESH. And I don't know how the fuck you guys operate. It's like you WANT to be caught in bureaucracy's limbo swings.

"Oh, it's too fucking hard"

No it's not. When the 52 percent gets the vote, it's more than 48 percent that didn't. Follow your principles. Fuck your feelings and get back into your roots.

You're a fucking democracy. Majority fucking rules every time. 51 percent > 49 percent. Unless for some convoluted reason math doesn't fucking apply.

Push it and stop warrior-ing, you arse-licking, McDonald's brekky-eating shithead from the Most Advanced Country In The World.

>>83798555
Someone else doing something bad does not in anyway justify you doing the same thing.

You might as well say it'd be fine for the Allies to throw all Germans into death canps.

>>83798601
America ended slavery throughout the world and went to war to stop it.

Guess which country still practices slavery?
The middle east and nobody's crying about them.

>>83798540
Compared to Hillary, he is.

But compared to his positions on guns a year ago, he's sold out. Same with his positions on immigration and class solidarity.

>>83797367
>The majority should not be allowed to control the minority
Then why in God's name would you live in a democracy?

>>83798339
>Yes, they were varied, I know full well that some Europeans got along fine with their Native neighbours. Still doesn't change the fact that it's undeniable that other Europeans targeted them for genocide (spreading diseases on purpose, exterminating the buffalo, just shooting them) and kicked them out of their lands.

...which really wasn't a big deal at the time.

> Just because one is able to recognize that some people in our country did bad things doesn't make one a liberal.

I don't mind admitting bad things, I just oppose the idea we need to be guilt about it.

> It was genocide, look up the definition. They didn't need to kill them all, but they wanted to kill enough of them so that they would be more easily coerced into leaving their lands.

If they really wanted to purposely kill them why they didn't do a better job?

> Really? You're actually trying to justify it? Pathetic.

Relocating people from land to use it better is a standard practice. Of course it was bad about how they did it, but it's in the interests to make the most use of it.

> It is important to learn from the mistakes of the past in order to not repeat them, but it's clear you've learned nothing.

I do think those things were mistakes: we shouldn't have build reservations, we should have simply sent them to whatever unpopulated area.

And we shouldn't have brought slaves, but having brought the right thing would be to send them back. We wouldn't even ask our money back for it.

>>83798641
America isn't a democracy, it's a republic. There's a massive difference there and it's why people are fighting to change things.

>>83798580
>as an empty home in the middle of a disaster zone would be probable cause enough to search.

Utterly untrue. Additionally, not justification for stealing their property.

>Regardless, half the country would not rise in the face of a mass confiscation.

Perhaps not, but we'd certainly see at very least, the same proportion of the population rise up that rose up in Revolutionary times.

>>83798641
America is built on not giving those in power the ability to abuse that power. If they wanted pure majority=right they wouldn't have so many checks and balances and explicit limitations on government authority.

The tyranny of the majority was recognized from day one and was something they actively tried to prevent.

>>83798741
>but we'd certainly see at very least, the same proportion of the population rise up that rose up in Revolutionary times
Based on what?

>>83797304
Thank you for the storytime, anon
I wish I could say I liked it, but for a Loki book, it was terribly boring and unfunny.
And the art was shit

>>83798741
>Perhaps not, but we'd certainly see at very least, the same proportion of the population rise up that rose up in Revolutionary times.
You're absolutely delusional if you think the American populations cares about owning guns this much. The number who would actually risk their lives for that cause are minuscule.

>>83798751
Based on how many people are passionately defending their Constitutional rights.

>>83798601

Slavery happened, yes. But my point isn't that it wasn't bad, just that it was better than what all the other people were doing at that time.

So I really don't feel ashamed for it. My entire point is that people shouldn't give a fuck about it.

>>83798691
Exactly, you shouldn't feel ashamed for America now because they no longer practice slavery. You don't need to try and justify their actions in the past or be all "but the blacks were the ones that sold them to us in the first place", it was a bad thing, and it isn't done anymore. End of story.

>Guess which country still practices slavery?
>The middle east and nobody's crying about them.
Everybody hates ISIS and all those slave-owning Oil sheiks, what are you talking about? They deserve all the hate we can muster for them.

>>83798781
On keyboards and through speech there's no evidence that they'd actually be willing to take up arms.
And even if they were they'd just be dismissed as a bunch of insane gun nuts, and probably called racist too.

>>83798780
You're delusional if you think they don't. There's a reason it's such a contentious issue.

>>83798751
America as a country was designed by a group of very smart people who saw the flaws of government and created the constitution to ensure that the people will always have more power than the government.

Gun control is essentially the only thing stopping the government from doing whatever they want and gives the people an option to always fight back if there was a time for it. Gun control issues at it's core is the global world power trying to ensure the masses are easier to manipulate and control and by allowing anyone who owns a gun has more power than the army as per mentioned by the constitution.

That is true freedom essentially, giving you a choice and option to take another option.

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>>83798823
>Everybody hates ISIS and all those slave-owning Oil sheiks, what are you talking about? They deserve all the hate we can muster for them.

Except those oil sheiks are some of our nation's most valuable allies.

>>83798781
I don't see to many people in armed protest of FOPA or the NFA. Hell, what was the ammo the Feds banned that nobody protested? It was some AK/ComBloc shit, wasn't it?

>>83798830
They're already being called insane and racist. Those terms, especially the latter one, have been so overused they've starting to lose their power.

>>83798876
No idea.

>>83798601

In fact I will be very controversial, but in fact historically it was a good thing that America brought slaves. Not because of slavery, but do you know how bad African slaves had when compared to American ones? It was a shitty life, but far better than what would be the common alternative.

>>83798714
>I don't mind admitting bad things, I just oppose the idea we need to be guilt about it.
As do I, nobody ever said you needed to feel guilty about anything. We merely said you needed to stop defending those actions or trying to downplay them.

>If they really wanted to purposely kill them why they didn't do a better job?
They wanted to kill them to get their land, once they got their land, they didn't need to kill them anymore so they just brought them somewhere else.

>Relocating people from land to use it better is a standard practice
But it was their land.

> but having brought the right thing would be to send them back.
That was actually something that was considered back then. Actually, they didn't want to send the slaves back to Africa, they wanted to send them somwhere else to colonize it.

>>83798914
I remember reading about it in an M885 on /k/. Somebody was talking about how nobody defended the poorfag ammo, and now the Feds were going after Green-Tip.

>>83798876
The M855 ammo ban didn't go through because people protested.

>>83798875
Still doesn't change the fact that they deserve hate.
Best part about the recent boom in Oil production in America and the development of renewable energies is that soon we'll be able to tell all these assholes to fuck off.

"Gun control" is just more Tumblr-tier activism.

>>83799002
I know M885 didn't go through, but I remember some other type being banned a few years back. Maybe I'm just imagining it, but I'm pretty sure something like that happened.

>>83798731
Okay, I'm wrong on that. I therefore, concede.

So shouldn't you guys be a Meritocracy instead of a Democracy? A Democracy is based on a pure majority vote.

>>83798749
That doesn't make sense. You put these people in power with your vote. Your system has a rotational block for the President. So what is your country then?

An Anarcho Syndicalist Commune?

Activity is not a substitute for achievement.

>>83798691
Lots of other places abolished slavery before the U.S.

You State puppets need to stop pretending your overlords in the government never did anything wrong ever.

Why are Americans so stupid?

>>83798540
No he isn't

>>83798931

That ignores that the law of supply and demand dictated their enslavement in the first place.

>this thread
>depriving ppeople of their freedom wasn't so bad
>stealing people's farmland that they cultivated was actually good

You're not pro-freedom if you only want freedom for yourself, dictators want that, too.

>>83799264
>Why are Americans so stupid?
He's not being stupid, he's just being overly nationalistic and doesn't want to recognize his country's faults. Every country is guilty of that.

>>83798405
>>83798462
They should've just pirated slaves.

>>83797188
>that her pet lesbian is rotting in the same hole they dropped Alpha into
Pittsburgh?

>>83797274
Actually, that's more like a litmus test on whether someone is a house style drone or not. This is definitely pretty weak compared to Foss' usual output, but he's still a significantly better artist than the majority of people the Big 2 have working for them.

>>83799596
Can't they think it's hideous AND not like shitty fill-in artists?
Must everyone who dislikes the thing you like, like the thing you hate? Are those our only two options?

>>83797354
Jane's first time meeting Loki had her get kidnapped and used as bait for Thor. Jane hates Loki without having that brother connection that Thor does that keeps Thor so no soft-spot.

>>83797862
Cap's new shield is magnetic and draws bullets towards it.

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>>83799765
She's also probably ashamed of the fact that her first reaction upon seeing him was "he's hot"

>>83798641
Are you literally a retard? Do you know literally anything about the US government?

>>83798386
They should've fought harder.

>>83798544
I agree. Think of all the problems we wouldn't have today if we never had African slavery. We should've just gotten cheap Chinese labor like we did for the railroads.

>>83798876
Both the 5.56 and the 5.45 ammo they tried to ban is legal again because people flipped the fuck out

>>83799596
Prove to me this is his weak art and post his so called strong work. Because "they are just a house drone" is just another way to say "stop disliking what I like".

>>83799412
> That ignores that the law of supply and demand dictated their enslavement in the first place.
> Ignoring that the slaves were ones of the rewards of war between different tribes.
> Ignoring that even if America/Europe hadn't brought them they would still be taken by the winner.

>>83798556
>What are Muslim rape gangs?

>>83797286
GUHH

UGGGGHHHH H


THICCCER

I can't wait for shit to go down so I can personally blow the head off of every single one of you faggot liberals.

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MODS! MOO-OODS! PLS!

>>83801480
I honestly just want everything to burn.

>>83796379
>Plus, you want the right to operate military-grade hardware. Which is fuckweird, in my opinion. I can understand about wanting own a semi-auto, a shotgun or a rifle, but why in the actual fuck would you have or allow the ownership of a God-damn M4A1 or Kalashnikov allowed for civilians?

Hmm, I wonder why a nation founded by rebels wanted to ensure they could easily rebel at any point they chose. The private ownership of arms is intended to be symmetrical with that of the state. It is a design feature, the people are intended to be both the first and final say in the governing process.

The purpose of those arms is to tell a platoon of american soldiers they can fuck off right back where they came from when they want to bunk up in your house due to some 'civil emergency' while they take turns with your daughter. To stand a chance of killing a good half of them before they put you down with their 'military-grade' hardware and make them think twice about trying that shit again because "Holy shit I didn't know how many farmers had semi-automatic grenade launchers, flamethrower, and a 20mm cannon attached to their 'agricultural tractor'."

>>83797838
Trump doesnt have any points anon.

>>83799023
Yeah man, everything is a okay here in the USA! Stay the course!

>>83798781
Oh my god. You can't seriously think everyone arguing for gun rights would be willing to die for them. Not even 1% of them would.

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>>83801480

>>83801918
That's still almost 3.2 million people.
>>83801918
Is it not?

>>83799426
>He's not being stupid, he's just being stupid

>>83801638
Soon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Tainter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse

>>83799221
>That doesn't make sense.
Yes, it does. It's to insure that the government setves the people as a whole, not excluding certain people.

>>83798837
To the extent of actually risking their necks for it? Not remotely. People argue whatever they want when they aren't risking anything.

>>83801834
The whole fucking off out of other countries unless they pay seems pretty attractive.

>>83796847

LISTEN AND BE(LIE)VE

>>83796049
>Trump just said he was meeting with the NRA to prevent people on the no fly list from buying guns
HE FLIP FLOPS AGAIN

>>83796887

>be desperate for another loki book

>you got one

>the art's like this


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>83801834
>I talk out of my ass, and have no argument: The post.

Son, start reading and listening, you may learn something.

>>83802137
It's going to happen. Current western society is at war with itself and tearing itself apart over the most inane stupid petty shit, while also being a society based almost entirely around decadence and self pleasure. I feel like it's coming to a head.

>>83797208
>Muslim.
>Wants gun control.
>Says he's innocent.

YOU NEED TO GO BACK.

>>83796964

man, even Hydra is more ethnically diverse than the DNC

>>83802243
All that implies is inaction on both sides.
The government is just as much just a bunch of dudes who aren't sure if they want to fight as much as dissenters. Smaller, less armed demographics have flipped their shit and gotten their demands.

>>83796049
I can't believe you fell for the gun grabbing libertarian meme

>>83796986

That was actually a pretty clever turn of phrase

>>83797188

>[UNSOLICITED OPINIONS ON LOKI?]

>>83796887
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>>83797304

>this shit art is acceptable in the current year

Fucking horrid

>>83797208
>Who your democratic collective decided was worthy.

STOP

The USA aren't a democracy. We are a constitutional republic.

Fuck Democracy

>>83802243
People have already shown they're willing to riot over Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. You think they won't riot over gun confiscation?

>>83796154
It's easier to build an AK-47 than to buy one these days. The materials are surprisingly easy to find and there's guide on how to do it

>>83796986
DON'T TREAD ON ME

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>>83797188
>>83797224
>the Pro-Transgender candidate

Loki confirmed for Trump metaphor.

>>83802348
So what are Trumps points then?

>>83797208


> Your government should decide the kind of weaponry that they're willing to leave in the hands of the people.
No. You have it completely backwards. The militia act and the second amendment are very specific: The people should have the same armaments that the government has. If police get ARs in their trunk, then so can everyone else.

>>83796813
That happened years ago. It's called not being white.

>>83796813
It's called a drone bomber and yes it was done not that long ago.

>>83796853
Yea and what are you going to do about a jet and tank at your house the first thing is going to be confusion and than getting the butt end of a gun while taken to a camp with others, with being labeled suspected <blank> which ever is a hot topic among those who payed whomever needed off.

How did this book manage to be so boring the thread for it wants to talk about gun control instead of how terrible this art is.

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>>83796049
>Trump just said he was meeting with the NRA to prevent people on the no fly list from buying guns
Wait, so he's cribbing Obama's policies?

The policies Obama was pushing for before this shooting happened?

Even though Trump was criticizing Obama for focusing on this kind of thing?

>>83806050
Illegal immigration is a serious crime, national security risk, and depresses wages for the least skilled Americans, and not just harmless "undocumented migrants" who we're not allowed to complain about without being branded "racist"?

Bernie understood that too, at the start, and talked about the effect they had on the working class, but he abandoned that in a futile attempt to gain the SJW vote.

>>83806318
holy shit they bombed cities?

>>83808641
It's Trump. You should have already realized months ago that trump runs entirely upon bullshit. Studies have shown he lies approximately 71 times per hour at a 91% rate out of everything he says.

>>83808727
Once.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing

>>83808727
May 31st, 1921, Tulsa, Oklahoma
101st airborn division.

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>>83808741
Was this in the same speech where he talked about "nobody reporting" the Orlando shooter?

I feel awful for his supporters. All the ones I talked to in real life had no idea about anything. One said he'd rather support Trump than Hillary because "Hillary is a woman, so she won't start a war when we need one".

>>83808831
Way before that from a quick glance at the article i got that from.
Trump being a known liar as far as politics go is months old and he's been known as a piece of shit that sues anyone that tells the truth about him or his lying into bankruptcy for years.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_us_56fc375fe4b0daf53aee9175

>>83797237
So, Hilary?

We get it Hastings, you don't like Trump.

>>83796049
I mean, if we cant trust someone to get on a plane, why cant we not trust them to have a gun.

>>83796771
>mfw idiots think some backwards colonies could actually stand up to the might of the British Empire.
>mfw dumbass think that some desert dwelling people could stand up to the entire force of the United States military.

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I can't wait for this election cycle to be over.

>>83809268
Oh look. It's American's thinking the British empire sent it's full might at them.
The British sent 22,000 (+30k hessian + 25k loyalists that showed up) people to police a population of 2.5 million and the commander openly just wanted to go the fuck back home instead of fighting.
2/3 of the American population didn't even give a shit about the idiots fighting to begin with.

Even then the Americans didn't win the revolutionary war, It was the Spanish and French "helping" as a fuck you to Britain.

I actually didn't mind the story, but what the shit was that art?

>>83808831
wow that's ridiculous.Hilary feels far more likely to start a war than Trump

>trying to paint the media as freedom loving champions of justice

Nah fuck off, you lugenpresse cunts. Trump 2016

>>83809165
If you can't trust someone to be on a plane or own a gun why are they in the country in the first place

>>83808971
>HuffPost

Yeah the paragons of truth that they are

>>83809736
That's exactly the point, but the guy didn't think so, just because she's a chick. It's absurd on so many levels.

And I mean, shit, at least Hillary has experience wasting our resources on Middle Eastern warfare, I can't imagine what kind of Reagan-style bullshit Trump would dream up.

What's the weapon version of a Trump Taj Mahal? Like, a Death Star with his name on it?

>>83809879
Well in the Orlando shooter's case I think it's because he was born and raised here.

>>83810014
Wasn't there some sort of star wars program back in the 80s being made as the missile defense system?
Having Trump's program be called Death Star would actually be fairly apt.

>>83797395
The miracle of bad art, perspective, and not skipping leg day all at once?

>>83806050
>What is Strong Immigration policy?
>What is Strong Foreign policy?
>What is Strong Economic policy?

Anon, it's like you never watched a single one of his debates.

>>83810708
>A Wall
>Keep Terrorists out
>Reagan 2.0
It's a shit.
>>83808641
How disappointing, and it's ultimately pointless too. It's just closing the gate after the Horse got out and stomped a bunch of gay clubbers to death. And I feel it's retardedly specific, it wouldn't stop any of the other sensationalized tragedies.
>>83810014
Trump seems more Americacentric.
He'd make SPACE INVADERZ and mount it on THE WALL. Well hell THE WALL is his Star Wars if you think about it.

>>83806050

vaccines cause autism and violent video games must be stopped.

>>83796847
God that art is terrible.

>>83796905
This is late 90's tier. Fucking awful. what is with the pixilated inking? Are they trying to make it look as bad as possible? Is this some wannabe hipster ironic bad on purpose bullshit?

>>83810708
And those policies are?

>>83810708
All he says in debates is shit like 'I'm the best, we'll make them pay for walls, my economic policy is gonna be the best economic policies we have so much economic policy we can't even tell you the economic policy because there's so much but it's gonna be great, just like AMERICA MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!'

>>83797274

Better than the last She-Hulk at least.

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>>83796049

This. Now more than ever marginalized groups like lgbt need to be armed. All gun control will do is consolidate arms in the hands of those least likely to actually be on our side when push comes to shove (criminals, law-enforcement, the military).

>>83810170
Star Wars was just a ruse Reagan came up with to scare the Russians.

>>83797076
So is post-Siege Loki's origin/circumstances of creation more convoluted than Hawkman's yet

>>83802142
Then why don't you guys veto elections if you "don't feel it's right"? There's so much grey it's like you're trying to paint a metallic sheet.

Get on a point and stick to it. If you leave room for the other side, you're going to fuck over yourself trying to please everyone. Get a rule and stick to it. Don't drag your arse for the populists, just stick to the damn bill and tell the people who disagree, the public or otherwise, to fuck off, because hey, THIS WAS WHAT THE MAJORITY VOTED FOR.

You can't just take one part of a democracy and say it's yours and call yourself one while ignoring other aspects of it. Don't leave the grey.

>>83815231
You're operating under the assumption that America is a pure democracy when it's a representative democracy with a system of checks and balances so no one branch of the government controls everything

>>83815147
Not even close.

>>83796871
Sick of Marvel juking people with misleading cover art, this is just like Captain Marvel. Taking the piss out of Beltway politics and media with Moore's art would have been great.

>>83815231
What country do you live in? We don't vote on bills and we can't 'veto' our politicians once they are in office.

I think Langdon Foss is somehow even worse than the chick who does Squirrel Girl. God damn. How do these fucks get jobs?

>>83816326
I'm asking this because

>Majority shouldn't always win
>It's a democracy, the votes decide the course. If there are 2000 votes for and 1999 votes against, the majority wins.

That's how it works. That's democracy.

What that anon, or you, whoever that is, is saying is that the majority doesn't, and shouldn't count. So why vote? That's the essence of it. Get rid of the voting system altogether.

I brought in the "veto" point as to bring up "If the majority can't win, who does?" and "if the minority vote doesn't either, who does?" Because that's how you decide. Guns or whatever aside, that is how you decide in a democracy and suddenly you tell me - America, the Bible Thumpers and Fire and Brimstone Priests of Capitalism and Democracy and All That Is Freedom doesn't LET majority win?

In a DEMOCRACY?

WTF are you running over there?

>>83796379
You should look at our history. Remember a thing called Wounded Knee? or the Battle of Blair Mountain? Our government has no problem killing people.

>>83816364
By applying for them.

Companies value initiative over competence.

>>83816483
Yeah, but... why would you allow your citizens to be potentially better-equipped and along with that, unsupervised, compared to your military? This isn't a frontier country anymore.

Killing people is all about intent. I'm talking about making sure, the best you can, that those guns are in the hands of those with clean records and a declaration of safety.

Hell, you can even do it like cars do. Have them attend a class for a month and only after that declare them eligible to wield the firearm from the judgment of the proctor/instructor/official.

>>83816426
a representative democracy with a system of checks and balances to prevent the elected representatives from holding too much power

>>83816530
I can't believe these are the only people seeking jobs in the comic industry

>>83816426
WHAT FUCKING COUNTRY DO YOU LIVE IN?

And yes our system is broken. Wealthy special interests and party insiders do their best to decide the nominee for us, if not the presidency it's self. They tell us to choose the lesser of two evils to trick us into thinking we ever had a choice. Our Democracy is indeed a sham. It only functions at all at it's lowest levels, and then only if the citizens are engaged in the system and educated in how it works. Our government is complicated and many layered with all manner of arcane rules and terminologies, and yet most Americans will only have a single semester of 'civics' in High School where we skim through the basics. They want Americans to be ignorant so that we are easy to control, and it is working, as it has for a long time.

That said, what you were talking about made no sense. We have a bill of rights and a constitution which is difficult to amend which trumps popular sentiment. This is because popular sentiment can sometimes be irrational and hypocritical. That said the constitution's enforcement has been heavily eroded by 'security' bills, militarized police forces who are for profit, for profit prison industry, and expansion of eminent domain. America is in a worse state than most Americans are willing to admit, and most just want to blame one party and pretend their own party wants to fix it. Divide and conquer.

>>83816533
Agreed. And take the privilege away if the person commits certain types of crimes or is reckless with their firearm. Also just as medical and mental conditions can render you unable to be trusted with a car, it can render you unable to be trusted with a firearm.

>>83796844

So even people with paranoid schizophrenia ought to be allowed to buy guns because muh second amendment rights to bear arms?

>>83798191
It's like half of this thread is actually my dad, awaiting his twentieth prediction that the government was going to collapse and attack it's citizens to come true.

If the government ever came for you guys, they have an arsenal that would kick the ass of any of your assault weapons anyway. It's like every gun-screwing American wants to star in Red Dawn or something.

I own guns, I'm fine with them, but making them the highest priority in terms of rights in America is just sort of sad and paranoid. Lots of countries have stricter gun laws than us and they haven't suddenly become Orwellian dystopias.

>>83796398
>You know what doesn't matter, fucking abortions

then why are white angry guys murdering people over them?

>>83799005
You say that but American companies sell their oil to other countries while the Middle East does the same and so do other countries because the business owners can profit more by doing that than selling directly to their own citizens.

>>83808714
>>83810708
Haha. I've watched too many of his speeches and debates. The clearest thing is that he's a fucking idiot who talks in circles or changes the topic to stroking his own ego or insulting people to hide the fact that he knows not a goddamn thing about politics. Maybe some economic stuff he's decent with, but shit he's not even a good business man given what he was given from daddy at the start.

He doesn't even know his own points and says whatever comes to him at the time because he has the filter of a kid. I honestly have no idea how anyone listens to him and think he's remotely capable of being president. Even if I agreed with his weak-minded nationalist and xenophobic bullshit, I wouldn't elect him because the man has a double digit IQ.

And if you took two seconds to research, you'd realize his main plan, the stupid goddamn wall, would do virtually nothing to prevent illegal immigration, more illegals are leaving than breaking into America right now anyhow, and that the wall would break our economy to build and maintain.

>>83817103
Firearms are a right, and those laws already exist. There are several conditions that bar you from legally owning firearms.

>>83817105
If they've been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia then they've already been subject to due process. Those remanded to or involuntarily committed to psychiatric institutions cannot own firearms.

>>83796887
Ugly ass pages like this make me mad at myself for not putting together my comic art portfolio together yet.

>>83813717
Spot on

>>83817349
>There are several conditions that bar you from legally owning firearms
and yet "being on the terrorist watchlist" isn't one of them

>>83814388
Expecting proper screening for all gun purchases isn't impeding on anyone's rights. I own guns, and it's just logical and safer.

I honestly don't get why non-violent citizens NEED an assault weapon. Do you need a grenade for some reason too? Need a container holding some form of germ warfare? I don't get why people need to be so damn defensive over guns that are only "needed" according to paranoid people waiting for the government to break their doors down.

>>83817335

>Xenophobic

Wow, it's apparently xenophobic to NOT want people to illegally enter the country.

I hope you're also okay with people going through your house all the time. You leave your door unlocked, right? It'd be pretty xenophobic if you did, after all, why do you care about who enters your own BORDERS?

People like you are why Trump is popular regardless. Trump may not even know some of the stuff he's talking about, but he's been consistent and naming countless problems that obviously plague america, and they are problems libtards like you don't even literally think to address.

So go back to sucking Pablo's dick, esse.

>>83817041
The school I used to teach at, the two Civics teachers were hardcore Fox News fans and were very subjective with how they "taught" Civics. Kids came in to my class spouting completely inaccurate BS about liberal views all the time. Hell, one day they came in talking about the Illuminati because apparently that was the Civics lesson of the day.

So yeah, kids are really poorly educated in Civics and most don't bother to retain any American History. For our academic competition we had to send a German foreign exchange student for the Am. History test because he outscored all the American kids in his grade. Ugh.

>>83817439
He thinks an American-born citizen is ineligible to hear the case on Trump University because his parents were Mexican immigrants

>>83817418
Depends on their line of work.
An assault weapon could be advantageous if you occasionally deal dangerous animals that could easily be put down with such a weapon. Maybe the wielder feels it's an adequate weapon for self defense. Or they just like wielding it for recreation. I mean rifle deaths are apparently very low compared to hand gun deaths so a lot of citizens seem to be putting them to good use without being a violent individual.

>>83817439
You using the term "libtard" already proves you're an idiot, but I'll keep going anyway.

Xenophobic also has to do with his Muslim baiting. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful and the main victims of extremists, but idiots look at the world through simplistic generalizations to dehumanize people to make a clear "enemy" to hate. It's the perceptions of a child.

Our trade with Mexico fucked over Mexico's economy, not the other way around. A lot of the illegals we've gotten from their country are thanks to our underhanded bullshit destroying their means of employment back home.

We are at a 20 year low on illegals entering the country. Wisely, they realize this place is going to shit. If your top priority are poor Mexicans, you're the fool the GOP loves. The wealthiest in America are fucking the politicians to screw over the rest of us by cheating in taxes, trade, taking care of their employees like they should, bailouts, etc. Trust Buster Teddy Roosevelt would bitchslap the lot of them if he was alive today. Trump may not be a politician, but he's a part of the plutocracy and has a really shady past (also he's not consistent at all, do you even listen to the man?)

>>83817504
And his ties to an organization sympathetic towards illegal immigration.

>>83817504
Yeah and that an American-born shooter is a signal that we need to ban Muslims from entering the country. God the lack of logic hurts so much.

What kills me is that his supporters who agree with this are incapable of seeing the situation turned back around and getting why it's offensive.

I could dismiss Trump as a person because he comes from a family with ties to gangster activities and Nazi sympathizing, but I don't condemn the man for his bad German blood, I condemn him because he uses the same tactics Hitler used in the 1930s.

Having all your integrity dismissed because of your lineage is ridiculous. Also Trump just bought off an Attorney General in this case... but you know, that's legal I guess.

>>83817558
Thanks for a non-defensive reply.

I dunno, but personally I'd rather vote for Loki over Hillary and Trump.

>>83817576
When Trump started that shit he made NO MENTION of that organization. You guys keep using it as an excuse, but Trump was just flat out being a dickish racist when he said it.

Also, when your own racism would cause a judge to be partial, that's on you. Do you think black judges have to recuse themselves from cases dealing with
white supremacists?

>>83801480
Ow, the edge

>>83817639
Yeah he probably should if he can't be impartial especially in a case that doesn't involve white supremacy. A better case is should a Pro-Israel Judge recuse himself if he's overseeing a case over an individual who's an outspoken anti-israel advocate to the point he's labeled Anti-Semitic by others constantly?

>>83817349
No, to maintain an orderly militia is technically what the second amendment is about. And the laws that you speak of vary from state to state and some states make a point of not enforcing them. There are huge holes in the existing policies.

>>83817558
dangerous animals? Hunting riffles, anon, learn to use them. Assault riffles are designed for military combat.

>>83810708
Here's the problem: he doesn't actually explain HOW he's going to accomplish any of those things, and whenever he does give details it's clear he has no clue what the fuck he's talking about.

>>83796998
>not even a confirmation on whether he's being a good guy before they want to know who he's voting for
Hah, reporters.

>>83817727
Funnily enough they're the same thing.

>>83798191
Nope. Here's the thing: because politicians cave in to the gun nuts lobby all the time, people overetimate how many there actually are.
The difference between gun nuts and other people, is that gun nuts are single issue voters. They will rage if a politican does gun control and vote for the other guy. Most people who want gun control aren't single issue voters, they'll vote for a guy that doesn't want control if they agree with the rest of their platform.
Which is why even though most of the country wants a change in gun laws, politicians (especially republicans) are unwilling to do so because they know that if they do they'll lose their next primary.

>>83817739
His plan seems to basically withhold all benefits from Mexico until they build the wall.

>>83817869
To be fair the country only seems to want to change its laws because some sensationalized tragedy, so they'll fight to get AR-15s off the shelves because that's the gun that the shooter used.

>>83817976
It's not just banning assault weapons. They also want more extensive background checks, making it harder for certain people to have access to guns...
But gun nuts are now against any change in the law whatsoever because they're afraid the guvmint is going to come and take all their guns.