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HAHA TIME FOR CIVIL WAR II - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO Gimme (You)s

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HAHA TIME FOR CIVIL WAR II - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

Gimme (You)s
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Nonono
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> Inb4 benis is a hack posts
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Time to see how more wrong Bendis can make Tony.
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>>83792596
Because a Civil War II storytime isn't a shitposting thread?
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>>83792587
Well that's 2 pages wasted that could have been used for something else
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>>83792587
Such a stupid fucking argument.
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No (You)s for you buddy.

ALSO GET READY THOSE BINGOS BOYS
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>>83792608
2 pages in and they're already making the readers mad.

MARVEL ARE GENIUSES
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>>83792587
>>83792598
>>83792607
>>83792608
Make that 5 pages wasted
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>>83792607
RIP Rhodey
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>>83792616
>Just copy and paste some covers from a few months ago.
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>>83792587
>kill the inhumans
>fuck the inhumans
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>>83792624
>>83792638
>RHODEY'S DEATH IS ALL YOUR FAULT
>HOW DARE YOU WARN PEOPLE ABOUT THANOS COMING
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So remind me again.

Why is Marvel still pushing the Inhumans, even if they know deep down that the X-Men will always be more popular?

I get that they don't want to advertise Fox's properties, but they still popularized Spider-Man even before they made a deal with Sony.
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>>83792624
Since when did Ironman just executing whomever he wishes without due process become a thing?
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>>83792596
>>83792614
Why are you people so Mad About (You)'s?
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>>83792657
>I don't have any
Bullshit
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>>83792649
They are expecting that now merchandise will kill kids knowledge on the x-men and when the time comes, the inhumans will take their place.
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>>83792657
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>>83792638
>"Go home Tony"
>Ties Tony up so he can't go home'

As you do
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>>83792660
Because we don't want this to get attention.
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REMEMBER IF YOU TAKE A SIDE IN THIS, YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A SHILL.

BOTH CAROL AND TONY ARE AWFUL IN THIS.
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Please god... Be the straw on the camels back that will get Bendis fired... Please. There is no way that he is not going to get into shit for this.
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Pls give me (You)s
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>>83792645
What's karnaks beef with stark?
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>>83792668
beast you useless piece of shit
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>>83792668
Why doesn't Beast want to fight Tony?
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>>83792701
Cause Tony isn't Scott
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>>83792669
Shaky explanation, but I can live with that. It's a shame though, as in my opinion the concept of mutants are written much better.

Mutants are an expo for whatever social movement has the most prejudice. Inhumans are a royal family who live in a magic sky castle who turn other people because why not.
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>>83792668
Wait, if it's a decoy, then
>>83792638

How did Medusa get her hair all over Tony?!
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>>83792647
I dont get it. Iron man is bendis new pet character
why does he make his side totally impossible for readers to side with?
shouldnt it logically be the other way around?
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>>83792668
But...they just showed medusa hair around Tony in the suit...
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>>83792701
So there's no bad blood when he inevitably switches sides
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>>83792668
Worst Race traitor ever
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>>83792685
nah Carol is right.
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>>83792711
>>83792718
IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE WARNED PEOPLE ABOUT THANOS! YOU SHOULD HAVE LET HIM STEAL THE CUBE!

Fuck you Tony, you piece of shit.
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>>83792571
How about we do an event where we kill Bendis?
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>>83792700
Jeez this is like when Stark was like he would bring in Cap and Bucky in the movie
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>>83792713
Beeeeeendiiiiiiiiis~
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>>83792700
Wait... You nearly kill an entire race and hold a cure over their heads. Yet when one of yours gets potentially killed you fly into a rage?

Fuck you Nu-Humans
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Well, at least Bendis is somewhat self aware
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>>83792750
FUCKING TRAITOR!
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>>83792738
>He shouldn't even have known about
Here we have it folks, proof that Tony would have let Thanos do whatever he wants. His problems aren't with Carol's handling of the mission, but that there even was a mission.
He blames Ulysses.
He's lost all sympathy from me.
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>>83792756
What I don't get is why is Carol suddenly leading everyone?
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>>83792750
>save it for an online forum
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Hulk gonna buttfuck someone in the pussy
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>>83792718
>>83792731
What a fucking asshole!
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>>83792668
>Starkbot
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>>83792764
Not sure if Cho
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>>83792754
But none of them set off the bomb. You might as well blame all mutants for shit Magento does.
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>>83792756
>No actually YOU did
>I reacted accordingly
Again, FUCK YOU TONY YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT.
IF IT WERE UP TO YOU EVERYONE AT PROJECT PEGASUS WOULD BE DEAD.
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>>83792686
Why would they fire a guy who is a producer on several of their tv shows, has a strong connection with SONY, is one of their most successful writers from a financial perspective and the man who put the Ultimate Universe on the map and made Daredevil and the Avengers relevant in comics again?
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>>83792786
Lol Carol thinks she can fight the Hulk

I was reading an old comic last night and she couldn't even beat War Machine
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>>83792738
God, get off your fucking high Horse Tony. Would you rather let civilians die before you tackled Thanos?
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>>83792795
Because a bunch of nerds online don't like him. Clearly that's more important
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>>83792677
Well maybe stop being such a shit and we'll say something nice about you Bendis.
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>>83792786
But everyone already knows that Bruce has no more Hulk powers.

Is Bendis REALLY going to go this route?
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>>83792801
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>>83792786
Has Carol ever read any Greek Prophecies? Actually does she have some fucking common sense? You just killed this man's cousin and now you are going to arrest for a crime he has yet to commit? Christ almighty, this entire event is just running off the fucking idiot ball.
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>>83792756
Tony is blaming ULYSSES because a hero happened to die on a mission based on his intel.
Are we really supposed to take him seriously? Heroes could die at any time.
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>>83792801
she's had decades of power creep since then
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So She-Hulk's still alive (for now).
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>>83792816
Ulysses' powers work in the exact opposite way of Greek prophecies.
He predicts the future, and because he predicts it, what he says doesn't happen because people avoid it.
So I doubt we'll get that kind of twist.
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Tony don't want fight before the attack, if not when it happens. At any time said He wanted that Thanos did what he wants.
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>>83792756
>That line was parcheesi

That was pretty good.
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>>83792720
>>83792713
This I think I actually have an answer for.

After Tony throws Medusa out into the hall in >>83792645 he sends the decoy out after her while he makes his getaway. As she's clearly momentarily stunned by the blast, it's possible.

Alternatively, Bendis.
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>>83792851
I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand you, could you try rephrasing that? I assume English isn't your first language.
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>>83792668
>>83792750
RACE TRAITOR
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>>83792786
Why kill Banner when you can just shoot him into space again?
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This is awful, but kind of a fun awful.
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>>83792738
>Does your bias affect the Vision?
Tony, how is his racial/sexual/political bias going to influence him seeing a vision of Thanos attacking the Earth? (which, btw HE DID)
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>>83792668
This would be like black doctors checking up on KKK.
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And as we all know, there's no stopping the shit train
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>>83792738
Ulysses raises a good point, Tony could have just ASKED to do these tests, but he decided to be a moron and kidnap him for no reason, then avoid the topic by claiming that it's "unfair" that Ulysses told people that Thanos was coming.
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>>83792687
Happy?
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>>83792815
In comics buddy not cartoons
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>>83792738
I bet this bias bullshit will start making Ulysses have weird/faulty visions

>He shouldn't have known about it
Thanks still would have come and Rhodey probably would have died anyway, except Stark wouldn't have Ulysses to act as a scapegoat and it would just be Carol
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>>83792793
That is completely different for two reasons. One the Clouds are other Earth and literally poisoning killing off an entire species and the Inhumans are letting it happen. Secondly, they are basically doing a Nixon for a cure to the sterilizing and M-Pox, killing the mutants and only negotiating their surrender.

So yeah, fuck the Inhumans.
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>>83792700
Somebody free Marquez & Ponsor from Bendis.
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OH sorry. I mean that Tony wants reaction when a attack happen (Thanos, for example) not before. Because you dont know what are you changing.
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>>83792774
>>83792786
So... are we just ignoring the fact that Tony attacked a sovereign nation, or are they gonna put him in a Hyper Dimensional Gulag? Cause memory serves that was his solution whenever one of his friends did something "bad".
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>>83792700
>Maria Hill having any say about anything
Oh, go away and schlick to rightest videos.
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>>83792929
That's a stupid argument. What do you mean "what you are changing"? You're changing a future where Thanos kills everyone at Project Pegasus and steals a Cosmic Cube, that argument holds no water.
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>>83792936
Did we ignore the fact that Captain America and Avengers invaded Utopia during AvX?
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>>83792713
Kek on square. Dear God, what are editors doing?
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>>83792845
It could though? I mean Ulysses has just seen the Hulk killing the Avengers right? But doesn't know how that happens or why. I mean, we literally know nothing about his powers... So why is Carol so gun ho about using them?
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>>83792936
It almost reads like he wanted to start a war and getting brainscans was a secondary objective
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>>83792946
Utopia isn't actually recognized as a country, Cyclops merely called it that. Attilan IS a real country.
More importantly, the Avengers had understandable reasons for attacking (the fate of the world), Tony has none (MUH RHODEY).
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>>83792794
But that's a lot of people Tony doesn't know, so no bad feelings there for Tony.
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>>83792750
>Save it for an online forum.

Oh choke on a dick, Bendis.
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>>83792700
>Inhumans bitching and pointing fingers idiotically
why is Bendis writing them exactly like the X-men?
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>>83792668
Beast you traitorous piece of shit
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>>83792963
>defending avengers
>ever
kill yourself slowly
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>>83792786
My favorite part is >:(
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>>83792713
>Wait, if it's a decoy, then How did Medusa get her hair all over Tony?!
This is bad even by Bendis standards.
If you want more, at the start of the issue Johnny and Crystal are leaving the building, but when Tony is discovered they are there with the others
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>>83792815
>>83792838
(1/4)
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>>83792657
>Don't have any
Horseshit.
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>>83793016
2/4
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>>83793016
note that Carol wasn't hurt at all by Hulk's punch, here.
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How like this plot isn't obvious and hasn't been done to death a million times before

>Bu-bu-but Carol, by confronting Banner, you caused him to rampage!

Get fucked Bendis
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Can someone storytime Civil War X-Men?
I wonder how my muggas fare
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>>83792657

>sorry I'm being written by Bendis
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>>83792806
That looks like Cho. So Bruce will get detained but Cho will fuck their shit up?
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>>83793025
3/4
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>>83793035
4/4
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>>83793028
Actually, what happens is that Hawkeye kills Banner before he ever has a chance to Hulk out. Have you not been paying attention?
Ulysses' powers don't work like that anyway.
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>>83792956
Yeah, I love how Tony glosses over Ulysses asking why he didn't just ask by saying DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT FAIR MUH RHODEY
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This could not have sucked worse even if he was TRYING to suck worse
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>>83792689
Eh, people hate Tony. I don't blame them.
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>>83792686
He's their...number one-ah-guy, Anon. His books sell and he's a marketable personality. They don't care how much we scream online about his dialogue because he's popular with the people who buy the books.

My opinion is that a lot of that comes down to him being put with the best artists on popular characters, but even so.
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>>83792700

MAN, IT SURE WOULD SUCK TO HAVE BEEN, SAY


HOPE SUMMERS
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>>83792786
It's the proverbial baby Hitler. Killing Banner before he even becomes the Hulk.

Tony namedropping Hulk in his Ultron-Hulk Hitler baby joke really did mean something.
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>>83793080
Those 2 situations are completely different and you know it.
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>>83792718

This is really pissing me off now. Tony, this kid never fucking did anything wrong other than having visions. He never even WANTED these powers. He didn't send War Machine anywhere. War Machine went on his OWN accord.

I'm dead ass serious, Tony is past the fucking point of being a hero now. He's actually become less of a hero than the fucking Punisher.

I absolutely cannot see how ANYONE can side with Tony at this point. He is once again the bad guy of the Civil War.
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>>83793094
They are not, and suck a cock
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>>83792925
There is nothing they can do about the cloud, They have no way to stop it. Second Beast and their scientist are working on a cure in their facilities, it's not like they are making the muggas jump through hoops, they couldn't have given them more.
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>>83792941
>>83792929
I suppose the argument could be made that the results of that could cause a butterfly effect. Save Project Pegasus but now there's no War Machine or She-Hulk. Anything they might do in the future now gets changed, which could cause an entirely divergent timeline. Like how Bendis extrapolated the alternate time line of things happening when Snikt-Bubs Snikt-Bub'd Hank Pym in the past to kill Ultron before he ever existed. It caused an entirely different timeline cause Ultron never created Vision and Vision saved the world like a dozen times. So you end up worse for the wear.
The problem is that we're not talking about looking at this from the future view. This isn't Ulysses coming from an established future and telling them to change things to stop that future. This is him predicting bad stuff happening and them having the choice to either do something about it or not. Now maybe a futurist like Tony could see the path of fate ahead of time. Have things planned out to create the best result, and this kid's visions mess with his grand design. But once again that just means Tony is getting mad at this kid and Carol for doing exactly what he's doing all the time. This would imply he's just mad that someone else has control of the reigns of destiny instead of him. Once again showing that Tony is just a hypocrite without a leg to stand on.
Or maybe I'm just projecting. Who fuckin' knows? Gotta do something to get through this dreck.
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>>83793102
THEY DON'T WANT TO STOP IT
Because it's "SACRED"
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>>83792732
this is basically Bendis trying to ape the Russo's "HE KILLED MY MOM" moment
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This issue we got

Extended, Cringy dialogue about gender and politics >>83792738

One side is comically evil, while the other is comically good >>83792756

Someon Update the bingo from the last issue
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>>83792925
The only people trying to stop the cloud is the Inhumans. Their not letting it happen.
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>>83793108
don't mention this fucking horrible comic ever again
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>>83793019
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>>83793038
I miss Doc Green.
I know he was the Maestro waiting to happen, but he was just so charming and engaging. A real Gentleman's Hulk.
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>>83792786
This book has 21 pages why the fuck is it $4.99
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>>83793119
Here's last issue's update.
I think it's too early for the comically evil part.
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>>83793133
You mean Age of Time-Traveling Snikt-Bub?
The event that might feature Ultron for like a minute at the end.
Got it.
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>>83792764

And now we know why Clint will kill Banner. Fuck this event is retarded.
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>>83793144
Bunch of spreads, senpai.
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>>83792764
Called it. FUCKING called it, Banner is not going to let what happened to his cousin, his only living blood relative, pass.
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>>83792895
This sums up my feelings. But it's too awfull, i don't know if i can endure till the end.

And, wtf happened to Karnak? The dude lost his power to see errors in everything? If not, why the fuck he is the emotional rage one in the inhumans? He has to be calm and collected, the guy can see the errors in the shit and everything, what the fuck i'm reading.
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>>83793110
That was bullshit, they literally hate in their book. Duggan fucked up, he also had Medusa fucking johnny being public knowledge,Karnak living in Attilan, and Terrigen making Hellion's powers go out of control instead him having M-pox. It was wrong about tons of shit.
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>>83793156
You didn't call it at all, what actually happens is that Hawkeye kills a powerless Banner.
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>>83793157
>Bendis
>writing people in character
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>>83792774
>>83792786
See, they should've started with this shit rather than Tony in the first place
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>>83792756
>Because it could have been any of us that died
Tony's argument is fucking stupid. Calling it retarded would be an insult to people with actual mental retardation that can't help it.
By his logic, no superhero should EVER go on any mission because they could die. The fact that a mission is done on Ulysses' intel has nothing to do with heroes dying on any missions. There's just no correlation, does Bendis really expect us to take him seriously?
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>>83792653
REGISTER!
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>>83793156
Wasn't Banner already supposed to have been contacted when Shulkie was in intensive care?
They contacted him cause he was the expert in Gamma Radiation. I suppose he can't Hulk out right now thanks to good ol' Amadeus but one would imagine that if he was contacted as issue one implied, he would be aware of Jen's situation. If he was gonna get so mad that he finally Hulk'd out again cause of Jen it would have happened already.
Why am I analyzing this garbage comic so much?!
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>>83793186
Oh, fuck, i forget his habits. Nevermind,
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>>83793187
Agreed, all they've done is make Tony look like an idiot.
This Banner situation is closer to the Minority Report scenario this event is supposed to be about. Rhodey dying because he was fighting fucking Thanos isn't no matter what Tony tries to claim.
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>>83792756
>And I'm actually shocked it wasn't you, Clint.
Low blow Bendis. Low blow.
I mean it's true, but you don't have to say it.
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I-I didn't follow TA hulk, Cho cured Bruce of Gamma radiation?
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>>83792718
That's not how a flick works... That hand is all wrong
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>>83793157
Ulysses is Karnak's disciple, so he probably cares about him more than he does about other people.
Then again, Karnak doesn't really seem to care much about his brother Triton since they almost never interact or show any sign of having a bond, so who knows.
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>>83793222
You forgot continuity is ignored/altered, Doc Samson came back to life with no explanation
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>>83792711
>>83792718
Why is Stark such a fucking psychopath?
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>>83793148
We are only missing copypasted panels.
I can't believe we can do this
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>>83792756
Why does Bendis love nervous breakdowns so much? I notice he keeps using them, and he keeps having characters refer to it as nervous breakdowns instead of some other medical term.
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>>83792738
>I'm like, so totally off the grid, like, omigosh
Also
>we all have biases and can't see them
Subtle...
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>>83793223
>Cho is Hulk
>Foster is Thor
>Wilson is Cap
Could we get Arno as Iron Man. They did just introduce him as Tony's paralyzed adopted sibling. Seems like it would follow suit with the whole legacy thing they're going for.
So why are we bothering with Tony finding who his birth parents are instead of reading the adventures of Steven Hawking Iron Man 2020?
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>>83792786
Wait, so the whole Tony kidnapping Ulysses and attacking the Inhumans thing, they're just gonna table that for now?
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>>83792738
>Dakota North
Has she been anywhere since Brubaker's Daredevil? The way Lark drew her made me feel things.
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>>83792571
Here we go!
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>>83793249
I noticed that and already corrected it >>83793259
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>>83792756
>Tony blaming other people for his kidnapping an innocent kid
What the fuck?
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Is there a reason that Carol's hair changes in every new scene she's in across these two issues
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>>83793259
Thanks anon

>>83793269
I think it was just down in order to create artificial tension between Tony and the Inhumans
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>>83793269
That's right anon. Tony Stark is never responsible for his actions.
Unlike all the other people who make mistakes just as bad and are Hitler.
Examples:
>Captain America
>Scarlet Witch
>Hulk
>Vision
>etc...
[This is What Brian Michael Bendis Actually Believes]
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>>83793144

It's expensive toilet paper, fa.m.
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>>83792571
>/co/ convinced Tony will kill Ulysses because of Rhodey, not try to figure him out
>Predicted Tony would take Ulysses not kill him
>>83792668
So that's 1 - 0
>/co/ is convinced Tony wanted to save Thanos
>Predicted Tony's issue was with a lack of accountability due to the individuals using it not even understanding it
>>83792764
So that's 2 - 0
>Predicted /co/ would hatebandwagon over Tony while making excuses for Medusa and Carol
>ITT
3 - 0. Game set and match.

And to the baby who said
>Wait, wait! Just wait for Carol to completely fuck up, instead of doing the logical thing and preemptively preventing such a problem, and then you can blame her for her impulsive incompetence
>>83792786
>"Oh hey Bruce, just got your cousin killed but I'm gonna arrest you just to be safe, okay? Thanks."
That one's free.

One last prediction. Iliad. Tony was right.
That is all.
Have fun.
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>>83792801
The hulk is overrated as fuck, he's not that much of a threat if you don't just walk up to him and ram your face into his fists as your primary method of dealing with his attacks.
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>>83792728
She's right that using a man who can see the future is a good idea, but her first chance of using that information showed that she's a fucking incompetent tactician who shouldn't be in charge of him.

Seriously, you have Medusa and War Machine in the first wave against Thanos, and you have Blue Marvel and Spectrum hang back.
>>
"Hey, you remember that one event we did where the superhero community was split down the middle over a contentious issue and readers were supposed to see both sides, except the writing was horrid and made one side look far worse than the other?"

"Yeah, it was pretty awful."

"Well good news for you, because we're doing a sort of sequel to it and this time we've fixed the major problem!!"

"You mean the writing is better and there's a more nuanced take on the situation that allows the reader to see both sides making good points?"

"No, I mean the writing is even worse and with people being written out-of-character and/or stupid, no one is likeable this time and you'll think both sides are terribly stupid!!"

I'm a die-hard Marvelfag and this is pretty fucking awful.
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>>83792756
>>83793280
>Sure, I invaded a sovereign nation, kidnapped one of their citizens, attacked their ruler and several of her subordinates, then tortured a kid and blamed him for everything, but this kid warned everyone that Thanos was coming to Earth and the Carol tried to stop him, and that's bad!
>>
>muh (you)s
fucking hate this meme, just kill yourself op if you are doing it for attention
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>>83792690
>"I was practically married to one at one point."

Okay, I have no idea what he's referring to (and dead god to I feel sad that Bendis knows a continuity fact that I don't), but what IS he referring to?
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>>83793310
It prints money though
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>>83793304
Of course he is. Bendis writes Stark.
In the end it will be revealed that Stark was right all this time
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>>83792657
That's not how any of this works


Goddamnit Bendis you fucking ass clown
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>>83793310
You should try DC, t b h
I transitioned and I'm happy
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>>83793304
>/co/ convinced Tony will kill Ulysses because of Rhodey, not try to figure him out
>Predicted Tony would take Ulysses not kill him
Only 2 or 3 idiots said that, everyone else knew he was just gonna kidnap him, it's obvious from the cover.

>>/co/ is convinced Tony wanted to save Thanos
>>Predicted Tony's issue was with a lack of accountability due to the individuals using it not even understanding it
This issue doesn't exactly prove you right. Tony is blaming Ulysses for Rhodey's death because he claims there should have been no mission to stop Thanos. He also raises the accountability issue, but mostly he's just against using Ulysses at all, and this issue only reinforces that.

>Predicted /co/ would hatebandwagon over Tony while making excuses for Medusa and Carol
>ITT
Yes, you predicted /co/ would hate Tony for being an idiot, congragulations.
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>>83792738
Is he implying that because the kid has a racial bias against black people is why War-Machine died?
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>>83793271
She stuck around during Diggle's Daredevil, I think.
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>>83793337
Having read nearly every issue of FF, I have no idea what he's talking about either.
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>>83792689
He has never had one
The Bendising is real
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>>83792689
Ulysses is his disciple, and he just saw Tony attack his queen
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>>83793038
Hickvengers already basically did Civil War II and it was a hell of a lot cooler than this shit.
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>>83793307

The Hulk isn't overrated, he's just inconsistent as fuck.

He can range from Thing tier to Thor tier, all the way to Doomsday tier depending on what the plot demands how powerful Hulk needs to be. Fucking seriously, remember the Onslaught event where Hulk was actually pivotal to beating Onslaught and was able to wail on him? The same fucking Onslaught that was able to manhandle Juggernaut when Onslaught himself was in a WEAKER state at the time? Yeah, that's what I mean, inconsistent as fuck.
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>>83792700
Don't do what!!!!
Why did you bring this mini avengers army to "discuss " a little breaking and entering


I just almost can't stand to read this any more

I wish people did not pay money for this garbage
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>>83792786

Wait, Banner is suddenly okay? Was this covered in the Hulk book?
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>>83793423
Yes, it was. Banner is currently powerless. Amadeus Cho is the new Hulk.
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>>83793259
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>>83793028
Isn't that EXACTLY how that works? Nine times out of ten, the Hulk just wants to be left alone, and stupid motherfuckers fuck with him.

There's a good line during one of those "The List" one-shots where Osborn says that as long as you don't fly into his cave and pick a fight, the Hulk doesn't give a shit about you."
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>>83792657
Wait I thought Crystal did the four elements. She can do Lightning?
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>>83792700
Always bothered me how the Inhumans have their nation floating over fucking new york but always want to pull the sovereignty card.
>>
BENDIS :DDDDD
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>>83793454
Wouldn't it be more prudent to have one X over something but then use different colored dots in the corner of a box to indicate it has happened multiple times?
Too late now, but still.
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>>83793465
It's not floating anymore, it's in the harbour.
Regardless, if the UN and the US government recognizes them, they are indeed a sovereign nation (unlike the People's Democratic Republic of Cyclops)
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>>83792750
Elevated blood pressure...


As a nurse I can tell you with confidence

WHO THE FUCK CARES
ARE THEY STROKE LEVEL PRESSURES?
NO? WHO THE SHIT CARES

Lol they made xdamigo throw out random meaningless medical nothings


Bendis got me so triggered right now man
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>>83793463
Isn't lightning generally considered as part of the air package? I'm basing that entirely on games though where the person who gets air can generally do lightning shit too
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>>83793497
Utopia was also recognized
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>>83792616
beast is an inhuman now?
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>>83793038
yeah, Carol's pretty strong, but she's not up to taking on the Hulk by herself. I will note that after getting punched into orbit by the Hulk, she was fine. It just took her a while to fly back.
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>>83793463
Yeah actually can, but she has probably done it four times in the fifty years she has been a character.
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>>83793454
Anon, we have to do this issue by issue, so it's easy to check
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>>83793498

What... kind of nurse?
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>>83793511
Nope, the US government never recognized it as a soverign coutry. The UN didn't either, they just let them talk there for a bit (until Quire fucked it all up).
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>>83793512
For getting in bed with them, so as much as Johnny Storm.
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>>83793512
No, but since the Inhumans don't actually have a team name he gets rolled in under the name Inhumans because he came with the group.
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>>83792786
You can't be serious........
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>>83793454
What he said >>83793531
You tried, but I don't think your idea really works.
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>>83793533
They did. There was this manifesto and whatsnot
You could also argument that atillan is not recognized, as I don't remember it ever being recognized on the pages of any comic
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>>83793532
An Emergency Room nurse.
A male one anon sorry to ruin it
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>>83792786
>Hulk lashes out
>Instantly think it's Banner, and not cho or any other shapeshifter or any other big green alien, like Hulkling or something
WEW BIAS
E
W
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>>83792786
To be fair, Banner has a VERY extensive rap sheet. By all accounts, he should already be in prison, the only reason he isn't is thanks to the Avengers.
So arresting him would be legally valid as long as you use all the pre-existing charges against him instead of "muh future".
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>>83793427
So uh
Where does the suspense of that last page come in, then? Does everyone else not know he's cured?
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>>83792678
Maria Hill is only the public face of SHIELD after Standoff

>>83792690
Stark sold his damn tower, it was a major plot point in the first arc of ANAD Avengers, its why they're based in a warehouse in Jersey
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>Lol I'm mad at you now, and now you or maybe you guys!
Bad Seriousdramacomedy shitshow the comic
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>>83792738
>I am so totally off the grid.

This is fucking awful.
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>>83793465
there are IRL nations that consist of a single city. Monaco, Lichtenstein, Luxemburg, Vatican City off the top of my head
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>>83793572
>They did. There was this manifesto and whatsnot
A manifesto written by Cyclops doesn't make it a country.
And Attilan is recognized on-panel as a sovereign nation all the damn time, have you read Uncanny Inhumans or All-New Inhumans?

>>83793597
They all know, the suspense is that they don't know if he'll stay cured. It's how Clint will kill him, he won't be able to hulk out.
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>>83793611
>have you read Uncanny Inhumans or All-New Inhumans?
You got me, I don't read shithumans
>>
I've been reading since disassembled and t he events truly do get worse and worse as years go on
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>>83792571
why do i torture myself and read this shit?
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>>83792963
Attilan is a city on the Hudson River

At least Utopia was in international waters
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>>83793611
I sure hope they've sent another member of the Carolstapo to confront Cho, then
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>>83792756
>and I'm actually shocked that it wasn't you, Clint
Me too Bendis, me too.

What a fucking hack.
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>>83793616
Then there you go, Attilan is recognized as a sovereign nation. It was even recognized as such back when they still lived on the Moon.
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>>83793628
Which is why USA constantly attacked them?
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>JUST
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>>83793600
>Stark sold his damn tower
major continuity error #4,201

>>83793597
>Where does the suspense of that last page come in, then?
maybe Bendis is ignoring continuity again.
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>>83793597
He didn't even know himself until recently. But there is no way he didn't tell nobody else, also tony and T'challa were there when Cho absorbed it you would think they might have ran a few test.
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>>83793587
>So arresting him would be legally valid
Yeah, if we go down that road everyone short of Ulysses would be in some kind of jail.
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>>83793624
I'm sick of how New York-centric the marvel universe is, its even worse than just being all about AMERICA or all about EARTH when you have this entire superhero universe of possibility to work with.
>>
Why is Tony Stark such a retard?

He might actually turn more retarded in this than in the first CW.
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>>83793636
They attacked them one time and after Black Bolt attacked them.
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>>83793572
They have been recognized for years, they even went to the UN in Jenkin's run.
>>
Why is Beast with the Inhumans?
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>>83793624
>At least Utopia was in international waters
It wasn't actually, it was in the San Francisco Bay.
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>>83792799

I think Nova has the right idea.
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>>83792668
>doombot
>a signature Stark move
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>>83793656
there's books that don't focus on New York. Inhumans, Captain Marvel, New Avengers.....
and there's books that don't focus on Earth. Ultimates, Guardians, Contest of Champions....
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>>83792690
Isn't Iron Man pretty broke right now?
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>>83793119

Has someone sent Bendis this? It might actually alter the comic if he was aware someone predicted everything he was going to do and knew it would end in a blackout.
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>>83793680
the X-men got mad at him and threw him out. The Inhumans invited him to try to find a cure for M-Pox since that was accidental.
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>>83792786
Even if Carol goes too far, Tony is the one that went too far first, and he didn't even have any good reasons for doing so. Neither side is blameless.
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>>83792711
and your best friend killed She Hulk. Fuck off Tony
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>>83792668
See, Inhumans, this is what Beast gives you
>>
Why don't they just kill Stark and accept Doom into their ranks already? He'd be more useful against someone like Thanos anyway.
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>>83793427
So next issue will be
>Hawkeye kills Banner
>It's Cho who will rampage
>You killed an innocent Clint
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>>83792668
>I don't fight Tony Stark

>>83792750
>Leads the charge against Tony Stark

????
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>>83793510
Lightning is a fire power in Avatar: The Last Airbender. It's really up for grabs among the elements.
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>>83792738
If Bendis wanted this so bad they should just have said Tony is still inverted and is Superior Iron Man
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>>83792700
bargain brand muties
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>>83793680
He got pissed after the X-Men had an intervention for him where they tried to convince him that his pathological hate-on for Scott Summers was causing him to make horrible decisions which broke space and time

And now he's pretending to be searching for a cure to M-Pox when literally the easiest solution would be to just let Storm gather the T-Mists in one place and just burn it all up
>>
So, is Infinite storytime anon going to do the Ulysses prequel?

save us ewing
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>>83793820
He probably means since he knows how it will go he won't run in blind against Tony just because Hank happens to be there at the time.
He gathered the others to do the fighting for him, they probably brought him in case Tony wasn't there and Hank needed to figure out what he was doing.
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>>83793867
He's such a shitter that he even got btfo by the fucking Watcher
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>>83793867
What about the whole sterilized thing? Getting rid of the cloud won't fix that.
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>>83792786
look at her angry face
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>>83792764
This is Amadeus, mark my fucking words.
The little chink is slowly but surely losing control of The Hulk.
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>>83792657
"Why the delay, Karnak?"
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>>83793755
so far, I believe Carol is entirely blameless. She's tried to calm things down, compromised, made peace offerings, etc. I'm sure that won't last
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>>83793949
that's why I <3 MurderCarol.
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>>83793948
It'll still stop any unexposed mutants from getting infected allowing them to move back from the goddamn hell dimension they fled to

Because it's not just sterilization, the mists are killing mutants as they spread.

Afterwards they stop the spread they can work on a cure for the sterilization
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>>83792764
Hulk's just mad because hi "Puny Banner" is still small
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>>83792686
>There is no way that he is not going to get into shit for this.

for what? what did I miss?
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>>83793680
He's trying to find a cure for the Terrigen cloud which is sterilizing and killing mutants.
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>>83793995

She rushed in with a team of literal who's to take on Thanos, the guy that killed half the universe and outsmarted cosmic geniuses.

And he had a gun.
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>>83793867
>>83794043
>>83793748

OK, did they ever explain what Old Scott did?
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>>83793512
Worse, hes a mutant traitor.
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>>83794051
Just because they aren't popular doesn't make the likes of Blue Marvel or the other Captain Marvel weak.
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>>83793696
>>83793696
Don't worry, that doesn't actually happen in that issue
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>>83794055
He arranged for Johnny to hook up with Medusa.
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Why is everybody blaming Tony and not Bendis for making him do this stupid shit?
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>>83792657
>I dont have any weaknesses
>5 seconds ago Medusa's hair got into his armor and almost straggled him

Cant even keep continuity established 2 pages ago.
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>>83794051
And Carol brought some of earths greatest geniuses to the battle like BP and Blue Marvel
>>
I'm fine with Tony kicking Karnak's ass but getting tossed by a decoy is just shit. Should have let him win, especially since Crystal blows it up it up easy.
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>>83794090

Because Bendis is now the writer for Iron Man. And Bendis has said that IM3 is his inspiration for this run.

Last Civil War made Tony so unlikable he had to have his memories wiped. This one is gong to make him even more hated.
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>>83794051
Even if that were a valid argument, Tony never brings it up, he's just butthurt that Carol even went after Thanos in the first place because acting on Ulysses' intel is bad because he says so.
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>>83792772
ahah Bendisi s right.

Wah wah boo hoo muh feelings.
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>>83794051
And she kicked his ass.
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>>83794161
I wish Carol did stuff to my ass. In her old outfit.
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>>83792586
Bendis?
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>>83792711
This is just mind numbingly stupid.

p.s. I'm so fucking sick of storefronts
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>>83793966
Of course it's Cho, that's what's going to happen after Clint puts an arrow through Bruce's head.
>>
I hope Bunn's X-Men tie in is better than this
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>>83792607
>Believing that the future has to be allowed to take its course
Wait, I thought he was saying that they should be very careful with what they do with the intel, mostly because he's not sure it can be trusted. Now he's arguing that they shouldn't try and avoid disasters at all because "muh fate"?
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>>83792711
Why did they design a character that the arc is going to revolve around as a faggot fuccboi
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>>83792657
He says right after Medusa breached his armor.
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>>83794051
a team of really powerful literal who's, and for those who read comics, they aren't literal who's.

For those of us who aren't dumb as a box of rocks, we know that a character's popularity has nothing to do with their power level

>And he had a gun.
you got me there.
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>>83794402
>Why did they design a character that the arc is going to revolve around as a faggot fuccboi
because that's going to sell comics. Carol will probably tie him up and peg him before this is over.
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>>83792725
Now he's betraying his new race.
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>>83793995
I would not have brought Dazzler or Nico to a Thanos fight. Thora? Thing? Real heavy hitters. Not Boring Sentry or a failed Avenger like Spectrum.

Also, a seasoned leader like Cap or Tony leading the battle would have prevented friendly fire.

Also, Carol is way too impulsive & angry to lead. Maybe it's Bendis' plan to show her learning a valuable life lesson...

Lastly, this comic is just one of many reasons I've abandoned Marvel.
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>>83792668
Why are Beast and Johnny with the inhumans?
>>
>>83793337
Bendis is just being stupid bi such thing happened with Johnny.
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>>83792571
Alright. This is now officially "Everyone is being a complete and utter moron in order to produce conflict" - The Comic.
>>
>>83792844
C'mon. Marvel's not going to kill a female in today's climate.
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>>83794483
>I've abandoned Marvel.
if you've abandoned Marvel then you don't know about relatively recent character development, such as Carol becoming a better leader, or how they had very little warning Thanos was coming, so they took everyone they could get.

you're bitching about a comic you don't read and whining about characters you don't know. Your opinion is irrelevant. Go back to reading My Little Pony, you retarded faggot.
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>>83792786
Look at that smile. He's just doing comfy research all alone without even knowing what's happening outside. I'd like to see Cho's reaction to whatever stupidity happens when Carol gets Banner killed.
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>>83792616
Who drew the avengers pic? Was it Alex Ross?
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>>83794573
>if you've abandoned Marvel then you don't know about relatively recent character development, such as Carol becoming a better leader

See Rhodey & Comatose She Hulk. Would Not have happened under Cap or Stark...

>or how they had very little warning Thanos was coming, so they took everyone they could get.

Didn't they have three hours of prep time? That's enough time to get real heroes, not just Capt Carol's slumber party crew.

>you're bitching about a comic you don't read and whining about characters you don't know. Your opinion is irrelevant. Go back to reading My Little Pony, you retarded faggot.


Not a Brony. Just a former fan who's watching Marvel waste away into a sad dementia.
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>>83792786
I have a feeling that acting on this particular prophecy will caused it.

Carol will discuss with Banner then suddenly "Avenger+Inhuman Assemble" out of nowhere, break into the building and arrest him.

Led by Tony himself and being right.
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>>83792764
>they say they can physically experience the visions now
>Clint's the only one impaled
Probably made him salty as fuck so he's the one that kills depowered Banner.
>>
Personally I just want Marvel to stop pretending that Carol is interesting or a flagship character in any way
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>>83794775
But she's getting her own movie. No other bitch is.
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>>83794787
Wasp will get title billing in a movie before her
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>>83794787
And maybe then people will actually know who she is, but right now I guarantee you there's more people in the world who know Jubilee than Carol
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>>83793148
You've forgot that kosher thing on Fcbd?
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>>83794090
because we believe in continuity
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>>83794838
>Antman & The Wasp
Not her own movie now is it?
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>>83794775
She is literally a flagship character, though.
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>>83792657
>*hands Tony a beer*
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>>83794921
They're forcing her as one but she doesn't have anything required to be one. Huge fanbase, classic stories, a personality beyond "bitch", any of it
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>>83794980
>>83794921
And as mentioned previously there's a bunch of female characters far more well-known than her
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>>83794980
Her name is Captain Marvel.
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>>83794869
Still before Carol or any other female character.
And more than Black Widow is getting any time soon
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>>83795062
Sheeeit, so was Billy Batson.
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>>83795062
So was Monica's, who cares? Genis-Vell wasn't no flagship character
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>>83794042
Killed She-Hulk and War Machine, a decision that has not gone down well at all. This story is also pretty shit and exemplifies everything wrong with his style of story telling.
>>
This is so fucking dumb. Firstly were two in and there's no civil war of any kind. So far its been some disagreement.

Also holy fuck bendis' entire ability to tell a story seems predicated on every character being a moron and doing shit that makes no sense for them to do.
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>>83794629
>Would Not have happened under Cap or Stark...
kek, Stark has fucked up multiple missions.
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>>83795208
Yeah how many issues is the main series supposed to be?

Because right now it just looks like Iron Man vs. Everyone Else, no one's really given their opinion except for the Inhumans
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>>83795244
7
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>>83794869
Fiege also said Wasp is going to have one of the largest roles in IW. So there's that too
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>>83792616
Is that fucking galactus holding the ultimates?

I thought they were supposed to be the "good guys"
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>>83795250
Really? Now would that work out?
>she shrinks down to the quantum level and breaks the gauntlet
Oh.
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>>83795208
Civil war doesn't actually happen until chapter 5 going by the solits
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who's gonna storytime the tie-ins
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>>83795262
>implying Galactus is a bad guy
He isn't on the team but he is a character in the book with his own separate plot line.
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>>83795267
Maybe she'll step in as leader while Cap and Tony are busy
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>>83792801
Bruce isn't Hulk anymore.
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I don't get it? What's wrong with changing the future?
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>>83795262
They are.

They turned him into one too.

Meet the Lifebringer
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>>83792764
GOD DAMN NOT AGAIN CLINT
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>>83794228
He said Benis, you chuckle fuck.
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>>83793207
So that what happened in the kitchen.
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>>83794532
So far the biggest moron award goes to Tony
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>>83792657

It's like a bad GM in a D & D game.

>Your strike does no damage because the enemy has armor with 100% resistance to everything.
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>>83795358
Fuck if I know. Why does Tony have no problem is changing the future because he's warned by time travellers, but if somebody dares (and succeeds) at changing the future because of intel from a precog he goes ballistic?
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The best way to read this is to have fun
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>>83795521
I find well-written stories fun so I'm not having fun here
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>>83795521
>having a good time
I'm pretty sure there's a rule against that mate.
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>>83792657
INVINCIBLE IRON MAN
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>>83794513
Johnny is dating Medusa and Beast is trying to cure the M-pox.
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>>83792756
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>>83792774
Well it's offical. Fuck Carol and Tony. I'm Team Hulk.
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>>83794629
>See Rhodey & Comatose She Hulk. Would Not have happened under Cap or Stark...
Why not? Pic related is the team Steve brought to fight Thanos and his elite minions last time Thanos invaded Earth, a much weaker team than the one Carol brought. They got their asses handed to them, Steve nearly died a bunch of times, and they only won thanks to Thanos' Deus Ex Machina son.

But this is all irrelevant, you know why? BECAUSE TONY ISN'T ANGRY ABOUT ANY OF THAT. He is angry that Carol even acted on Ulysses' intel in the first place. If Stark had been in charge, he wouldn't have bothered doing anything at all and would flip Ulysses the middle finger.
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>>83793337
I think Johnny fell in love with Alicia (Ben's gf) and she was a Skrull or robot or something.
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>>83792713
Ninja log trick with metal
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>>83795516
I think that anon might have been asking sardonically. Trunks is an example of trying to fix the future gone wrong.
He comes back with sketchy information, repeatedly fails his objective and inadvertently assists Cell in being completed repeatedly.

Now one might say if he didn't intervene things would be worse but well really if Goku died they could just wish him back with the Namekian dragon balls. Though it's doubtful Piccolo would even die to begin with since the first batch of Androids they encounter weren't even that tough. So they kill them, Bulma helps them find the lab, they deal with the stasis Androids and Cell. One could argue they'd never find Cell because reasons but really from what we see occur in the present day whatever happened in the future to make them all fuck up is driven more by plot contrivance than any logical explanation.

Despite being atrociously poorly informed by Trunks the group managed to get plenty done on their own just fine. With a tip yes, but a useless one in the end since Trunks didn't even know about Cell so he didn't help with that. Either way analyzing and destroying 18 and 17 would be enough. Cell would have got up to Super Piccolo level absorbing people but Goku and the others would have killed him clean.
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>>83795731
>Hyperion
>Much weaker
Wat. He survived an incursion, I think he's a lot better equipped to handle himself than a black dude in tinfoil wrap.
Hulks and Asgardians also regenerate or revive pretty nicely even when killed.
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>>83795801
Actually, the real problem is that the Z fighters refused to actually act on Trunks' intel until a year later.
They COULD have just gone after Gero before he even made the Androids, but Goku was all "I want to fight strong opponents".
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>>83795830
Blue Marvel has beaten King Hyperion
Spectrum is living energy, she doesn't even need to regenerate.
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>>83795830
>better equipped to handle himself than a black dude in tinfoil wrap.
So you're saying Steve Rogers has no business being there, right?
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>>83793337

Johnny has never dated a robot...Bendis is just screwing with people
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>>83795870
Well Steve goes into battle with more a nigh-indestructible frisbee and less chrome body spray, but also he doesn't bring non-homing, non-selective-detonation, anti-Cosmic-augmented-Deviant-Titan missiles that kill his Hulk.
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>>83793574
That's a male nurse, too.

(Tim Drake disguised as a 20 something nurse)
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>>83792700

>"Our country"

Bitch you decided to place your "country" in the middle of the Upper Bay outside of NYC. Its not like you're secluded.
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>>83792598
>white feminist crying over her black bull
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>>83792701

Because Hank knows Tony is right
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>>83795974
It's still recognized as a sovereign nation by the US government and the UN, just like the Vatican.
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>>83792774
Calling it now... Actually recalling it...
It's Scarlet Witch-Brand Reality Warping
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>>83793038
>>83793515

She's well below She-Hulk/Thing level of strength. Carol is dumb for thinking she could ever take on Hulk alone.
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>>83794051
They had war machine bring his thanos killing missles. They probably did 99% of the damage.
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>>83792786
>hulk *possibly* kills you all
>This can of course be negated
>nah, kill em while he's powerless because future event that we don't even understand the circumstances of.
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>>83792638
>go home tony
"I can't move because of your hair, Medusa
>Go home tony!
"I'm choking you asshole
>very well. We'll talk about this when you wake up
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>>83792756
>>83792764
>>83792774
>>83792786

>Cutting to a completely new plot point without ending the previous situation

So Tony is now okay with them predicting the future? Did he run away with the data? Nobody is choosing sides, this isn't a war....this is essentially a regular Avengers arc.
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>>83793271
There's been no need for her since Bendis ripped her off with the inferior Jessica Jones. AKA Bendis' self insert.
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>>83796053
But most of his predictions don't actually come true (because people act on his intel to avoid them), how does that even make sense?
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>>83796133
Yeah, the fact that Hawkeye is going to kill Hulk doesn't change the fact that Tony was way out of line and his position was unjustifiable. Especially since his arguments make no sense, since he wasn't arguing against Minority Report, but against using precognition at all.
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Can someone story time Deadpool or Nova?
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>>83792786
Wait... The SHIELD doctors in #1 said they needed to call Bruce as a Gamma Specialist when Jennifer was in ICU

Did they just bother not to call her closest relative after she flat-lined?
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>>83796094
To be fair, Carol can go Binary whenever she wants now. That and the energy absorption kinda bumps her up from what she technically would be otherwise.
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>>83795521
See I could if this were an out of continuity a thing, what if, an elseworld
But it's their MASSIVE SUMMER BOOCKBUSTER EVENT WHERE NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME and the next few years of shit usually come from the event and ideas the writers and higher ups shat out while making the event
And if this is shit and rushed then they need to get their shit together
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>>83795725
>Johnny dating Medusa
Who doesn't like the smell of burning hair?
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>>83796094
She's knocked out Sentry and Thanos. She's blown up planets. She can fight the Hulk just fine.
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>>83796218
I'd like Civil War II: X-Men
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>>83794869
Not hers alone but still hers.
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I can't get past Carol's current design, I just can't.
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>>83792902
Bendis is dumb, he rites random shut, he is good at street level stuff when he tris to write smart arguments between characters he comes out as dumb
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>>83792970
Exactly what I though fuck off Bendis.
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>>83793817
Where did this Clint killing banner come from? the leaks? Or some other rumour?
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>>83792653
I'd guess around the time he actually became a supervillain and had to be replaced by an alternate version of himself.
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>>83795728
Team Hulk 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHay_Uf6008
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>>83796269
She still needs to absorb a certain amount of energy to go Binary doesn't she?

I mean that's probably why she keeps Monica and Blue Marvel around
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>>83796387
The covers plus hints from solicitations and context. Plus, Bendis is known for fucking up Clint.
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>>83796236
Jesus christ, you're right
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>>83792786
>A happy Bruce
Always short lived.
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>>83796488

Have you forgotten who's writing this book?
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>>83792764
Good Grief he's naked!
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>>83794597
Obviously.
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>>83796287
Carol suddenly being one of the highest powerlevel characters is one of the most unwarranted, forced pushes in comics. Carol is the Roman Reigns of Marvel
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>>83796162
Because the reality distortions are fucking with the villains involved to...

Why else would Thanos need a huge Liefeldian gun and be so adamant about how Carol's team wasn't supposed to be there?
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If they didn't call this event Civil War 2, would you've more satisfied with its content?

Would you have received some of the plot points better without knowing this is supposed to put 2 sides against each other?
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>>83796287
>>83796269

In Binary she might be up to She-Hulk/Thing strength, but even that is questionable since her main powers are flight & energy, not strength.

Also,
>Implying Carol can knock out Thanos
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>>83792764
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>>83796587
>Why else would Thanos need a huge Liefeldian gun and be so adamant about how Carol's team wasn't supposed to be there?
The gun is because Bendis. He was adamant that they weren't supposed to be there because he didn't forsee any resistance, he didn't expect that anyone would know he would attack Project Pegasus, which is understandable, he just said it in a weird way because Bendis.
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>>83796198

>Tony is out of line

So you think its ok to arrest & punish people for crimes they've never committed? This kid's powers are not going to hold up in court as evidence.
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>>83796600
Not really, the first issue immediately establishes that it's Tony vs Carol
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>>83796620
Carol does have super strength though, I don't think she's as powerful as the hype on a usual day but she does have that
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>>83792764
>>83792774
>>83792786
Did... Did everyone just forget there's more than one Hulk?
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>>83796692

Yeah, but Non-Binary she's around Luke Cage level of strength. Binary probably gives her a temporary boost, but not to Hulk levels
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>>83796665
>So you think its ok to arrest & punish people for crimes they've never committed? This kid's powers are not going to hold up in court as evidence.
NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED YET
What made Tony go ballistic was them going after Thanos, which has nothing to do with that scenario.
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>>83796387
It's a rumor

>Lemire's Hawkeye is a failure compared to Fraction's
>Bendis doesn't care about Hawkeye
>Kate is said to get a book soon
>Clint being in it would take attention away from her
>Clint is on Carol's side so he knows what Ulysses can do
>nobody cares about him in the MCU anymore
>somebody is already confirmed to stand on trial
>TAH solicits make it sound like somebody close to Cho die
>Clint killing Banner would make Cho freak out and try to kill them
>Ulysses vision about Hulk rampaging would be true
>BAM ACTUAL CIVIL WAR kicking off with people finally choosing their sides
Somebody on Carol's side is either gonna kill Bruce or die with him. Or both.
Clint is the perfect candidate and there are even covers depicting it
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>>83796764
Hey, Thanos did nothing wrong yet! He's got constitutional rights and shit!
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>>83796787
Add to that the fact that in the latest issue of New Avengers, Hawkeye was written out of the plot, so he clearly won't be involved there any more.
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>>83792772

I really dislike writers doing shit like this. "Haha yeah, online forums am I right?" It feels cheap and tacky, as if they're the little guy somehow even though their name is on the comic.
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>>83793411
>Don't do what!!!!
Don't have Karnak level the entire building.
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>>83796665
>>83796764
Not only has that not happened yet, but Civil War II: Spider-Man shows why that argument is stupid.
Ulysses predicts that some civilian is going to kill 2 people. Instead of arresting him, Spider-Man follows him. Once the guy breaks into his ex-girlfriend's house and pulls out a gun, Spider-Man jumps in and punches him and arrests him.
So you don't have to go Minority Report, you just have to follow the potential perp and stop him the moment he does something actually illegal.
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>>83792764
>dyke's about to poke banner
this is gonna go well
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>>83796944
>you just have to follow the potential perp and stop him the moment he does something actually illegal.
How does that work for a Hulk though? Before they Hulk out it's anyone's bet when it will happen, once they're hulking out it's already over.

The size and eye glow of the Hulk in the vision also implies Worldbreaker levels of JUST so good luck with dealing with that.
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>>83793033
naw, thats banner look at the jorts he's wearing
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>>83797072
That's presumably why Hawkeye decides he doesn't want to risk it and just kills him.
But that strategy would work on all other potential perps (and on all the fugitive super-villains who still have to do time for their previous crimes), no reason to dismiss Ulysses out of hand.
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>>83792638
Why is Tony breaking in just to test Ulysses? Surely it's in everyone's best interests if more about Ulysses's power is discovered? Would Medusa really be that much of a bitch about it if Tony had asked nicely? Is Tony that much of a dick that he doesn't care the "good guy" just broke several laws to do something that Ulysses probably would have consented to if he had been asked, since he gave permission to Teen Jean to play with his mind?

I never felt the Bendis hate so pervasive here, but...yeah. This shit is stupid.
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>>83796850
Thanos escaped prison before he finished his sentence for illegal use of a Reality-Altering artifact, attempted murder, theft and driving a helicopter without a license, the only right he has is the right to remain silent and to contact an attorney.
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>>83792774
>The Hulk is going to kill you all

Finally we find out who the hero in this story is. Thank you based Hulk.
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>>83797177
What a tricky fellow.
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>>83792973
Do you have the one for may?
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>>83793259
The
>extended, cringy dialogue about gender and/or politics
Isn't really accurate. That couple panels about "biases" is hardly extended, and it wasn't that cringey. Nor was it in any way about gender or race politics. Acknowledging that everyone has biases isn't the same as gender/race politics.
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>>83794051
The Ultimates are the EXACT people you would bring to fight Thanos. They're the planet's strongest team.
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>>83797177
>driving a helicopter without a license
you dont know that, he clearly owns the helicopter since it has his name on it.
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>>83797289
Squadron Supreme is pretty tough
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>>83792571
When is Vol. 3 out?
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>>83797308
That's not what the license is for
You need to be accredited by the state, or a state, in order to lawfully do most things involving heavy machinery
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>>83797405
>Working with king killers
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>>83797072
Have Thorina literally toss him into space, he can get as angry as he likes once he's zoomed out of the solar systyem
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>>83797267
I can give you that it was not extended, but it was without doubt cringy and it's implied( not as subtly as Bendis thought) that is about race or politics
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>>83797745
>Manually starting World War Hulk 2
Sheeeeeeit.
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>>83797786
That happened because they sent him to an alien planet.

They should have just thrown his green ass into the vast endless reaches of space to drift for all eternity.
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>>83793259
Does Beast still count as an X-Man?
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>>83797786
Just make sure he lands on a planet without any spaceships (which is what the Illuminati intended) and it should be fine.
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>>83794228
not Bendis, BENIS
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>>83792867
Worked out well the first time! With Bendis this wouldn't surprise me.
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>>83792786
It looks like Carol is going alone to talk to him, she isn't going with a bunch of superheroes to take him down like many feared she would.
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>>83792616
Is Tony going bald?
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>>83797819
No, he is a race traitor and officially member of the Inhumans
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>>83797984
>Nicest x-men officially member of the Inhumans
what? when? why? who's the fucker who wrote that?
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>>83797968
>the armor is specially made to show his bald spots
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>>83798031
Since like a year ago, I take it you haven't been paying attention.
He's with the Inhumans because he's using their resources to find a cure for the M-Pox, he's not a "race traitor" at all.
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>>83793623
>>83794532

Does this count as this summer's "weekend of pain" ? Or whatevr last year's shitfest was called
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>>83797819
According to Medusa, yes
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It's all medusas' fault.
If Black Bolt was in charge, he would never reveal the existence of an inhuman who could see the future. He would protect this inhuman and tell about the future dangers indirectly to other heroes.
But no, let's bring the boy to this awesome party. Fuckin retarded.
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>>83798162
So Black Bolt would just let the Celestial Destroyer and Thanos do as they please without asking any help from anyone?
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>>83792813
Shh, they need to retroactively justify Tony's paranoia so it dosn't look all one sided.
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>>83792810
I wonder how much of this is actually Bendis' fault. I imagine the "creative process" is something like this:

>Hey Bendis, we need your signature to sell this Civil War II shit, so congratulations. Here's a list of the characters you are gonna kill off, with specific issue numbers. Here's a complete list of who's fighting for which side.
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>>83798213
can you read?
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>>83798087
The Inhumans don't care about mutants, they're using the promise of a cure as leverage to convince Frenzy to pretend to attack them so that they can look sympathetic to UN officials, making mutants look bad in the process
>>
What will happen if this thread will get the bump limit? Will you make another cancerous thread about an event that everyone hates?
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>>83798213
No, read again. He would tell about future dangers indirectly to other heroes, simply as that. There's no need to expose this boy who barely got his powers to do that.
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>>83797819
if you look here >>83792616
you'll see that he's an inhuman
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>>83798250
Actually Frenzy was a different deal that was just between her and Crystal. She did that because she wanted ships and such from her to save mutants, and according to Asmus it was suppose to be the third arc of All new Inhumans but The first arc took longer than expected.
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>>83792673
Loss edit when?
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>>83798292
But the heroes would be mistrustful, wondering where the hell they're getting all this intel from and why they should believe it.
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>>83798319
How is that any better?

"Our mission is to travel the world and follow the mists and clean up any damage caused by them, except instead of helping any mutants in danger, we'll withhold our ships unless you help us with PR"
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>>83792687

No
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>>83798371
Why should i trust those crazy heroes with one of my boys?
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>>83798378
I didn't say it was, I was just pointing out that you were mistaken.
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>>83795262
>>83794597
>>83793512
I love how man people aren't keeping up with Marvel yet they want to read an event they hate
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>>83798543
Other than Tony (whom everyone hates), everyone else has been fine with Ulysses.
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>>83793080
Glad I'm not the only one seeing the gross child kidnapping/abducting pattern of the Avengers.
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>>83792764
Well, well... Clint is death in this vision.

I'm not surprised, at all.
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>>83792738
>You could have asked me to do these tests.
See Tony this is why you're going to be called the bad guy.
>>83792786
Hi Bruse we need your help to stop a 110ish foot Hulk from killing us.
>>83792925
What cure? I don't remember anything about there being a cure for the mpox, what did I miss?>>83792941
It wasn't even a real Cosmic Cube.
Also I'm getting this weird MJ vibe off Tony being "I don't want my friend/husband to get hurt when he's out superheroing." Does anyone else see it?
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>>83798613
This is why controversy sells and they will never get better...at least until we get new people running the show...hopefully....
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>>83798638
To be fair, this time Tony was the only one on board with this stupid idea, everyone else was disgusted.
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>>83798662
>It wasn't even a real Cosmic Cube.
He still would have killed everyone at Project Pegasus, stolen some ISO-8, and probably would have found out about Kobik, then gone off to do more evil acts.
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>>83797820
>Just make sure he lands on a planet without any spaceships
Yeah, it'll take a genius to build a spaceship on a primitive planet. I'm sure glad the Hulk's dumb.
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>>83792622

The idea that they killed Rhodey for this garbage makes my blood boil.

>>83792685

Fuckin a'.

>>83792689

Karnak is a hair's breadth away from killing people at all times. If you mess with an Inhuman, he's all over you. That was the only point of light here: Iron Man pwning Karnak.

>>83792698

Continuing the streak!
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>>83792571
>Gimme (You)s

Collectively you will all be known by the monnicker 'Youze Guiz'.
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>>83792701

Because Tony would twist sausages out of him, probably.

>>83792713
>How did Medusa get her hair all over Tony?!

Bendisitis. Medusa's hair is less powerful than Spider-Man and the armor is of course completely airtight, so...
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>>83792732
>>83792768
>>83792804

There was not even a cube there. They should have evacuated the base, let Thanos go in and then nuke the place. Fighting Thanos is simply insanity.

>>83792801

Carol's power's evolving though. She once absorbed a nuclear explosion. If she's juiced up enough...

>>83792824

And Rhodey was a military officer. It comes with the job. Tony hasn't been written very well in decades.
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>>83793384
I told you, folks. Bendising is a real thing.
>>
I don't understand Bendis. I jut read USM a few weeks ago when that kind anon storytimed it last month. The first ~100 issues of that are probably the best superhero-related thing I've ever experienced. How can the person whore wrote that also write something as incredibly, mind-numbigly stupid as this?
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>>83792770
Boss of Space.

Plus seeing as she also had a share of Rhodey she's just assumed the role to counter Stark.
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>>83798954
>Medusa's hair is less powerful than Spider-Man
Actually it has gotten a great deal stronger, she was holding up a large building in Inhuman, Throwing around airships,recently and in A-force it was said to be on par with base level She-hulk.
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>>83793320
There's definitely some major piece of logic missing from Stark's brain here. And Bendis's.

Carol had already shut the cube experiment down in The Ultimates anyway.
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>>83799063
Because USM is street-level which is where Bendis works best...

Any time he tries working with higher levels and larger stakes, he crumbles under the weight of it all
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>>83792689
Nothing personal, but Tony is committing extreme aggression against Attilan here. And Karnak is on paper well-suited to disabling an armored opponent quickly. Too bad Tony was prepared.
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>>83792689
he just assaulted his queen?
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>>83792786
RIP Banner
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>>83797913
Fair enough. She and Thor are probably the only two Avengers who can tank the big green guy when he goes all raid boss.

Remembering Hulk smacked her into orbit in Time Runs Out and she was back in the fight a few minutes later.
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>>83792690
>Crystal's "ew"
THAT'S what you have a problem with, Crystal? Really?
>>
has /co/ discussed the bleeding cool guess at the other death? he's predicting Mary Jane
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>>83792616

>not being hype for finally getting TEAMS

they better not drag out she hulk's death
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>>83795731
Bar Rogers that might be the strongest lineup the Marvel 616 Earth can produce. If this was Uber they'd be the Avenger's battleship class supers.
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>>83799516
Nah, we have our own guess (which I'm surprised Rich hasn't posted since we know he browses here), we're pretty sure Hawkeye kills Banner.
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>>83792678
Did nobody tell that artist that Medusa can't fly?
>>83792690
Not gonna lie, I want to see Karnak punch down the building
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Medusa is just like "Tony go take a nap" Bendis is def making him irrational
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Is it really possible to kill the Hulk with a fucking arrow? I thought it was pretty much magic or bust vs Hulk?
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>>83792756

it is so frustrating that no one is like "THANOS IS IN JAIL DUDE. THAT'S A WIN"
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>>83799656
Banner is currently powerless
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>>83792714
>I dont get it. Iron man is bendis new pet character
>why does he make his side totally impossible for readers to side with?
>shouldnt it logically be the other way around?

We shouldn't rule out Bendis not understanding that Tony really IS in the wrong here.
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>>83799707
It's even more frustrating that nodboy says "We risk our lives on EVERY mission we're ever on, STFU you self-centered asshole."
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>>83799709
>Clint kills Banner
>Cho finds out
>"But..the future refused to change"
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>>83799742
He could be right in the end.

Which is awful, because right now he's clearly wrong.
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>>83793357

>DC

like Democrats and Republicans my friend.
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>>83799866
I doubt Cho is gonna kill Hawkeye, Tony, Carol, Thor and everyone else, so I'd say the future was changed.
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>>83799920
Then who are the libertarians of comics?
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>>83796236
I'm wondering about this as well.
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>>83793098
>I absolutely cannot see how ANYONE can side with Tony at this point. He is once again the bad guy of the Civil War.

They're going to flip it around and have Carol's side do something even worse, i.e. assassinating Banner.

Civil War: Whose side are YOU on?
Civil War 2: Whose side do YOU hate SLIGHTLY less?
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>>83799578
That's not even the strongest members of Hickman's team at the time

Thor, Hyperion and Hulk sure

Starbrand
Nightmask
Ex Nihilo
Captain Universe
Doctor Strange
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>>83799920
I'm guessing it's Marvel=Democrats and DC=Republicans in your analogy?
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>>83800090
>Civil War 2: Whose side do YOU hate SLIGHTLY less?
I'll still hate Tony's side more even if Hawkeye does kill Banner.
Using Ulysses is better than not using him at all.
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>>83793399
>Hickvengers already basically did Civil War II and it was a hell of a lot cooler than this shit.

It was awful. But you're still right.
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>>83793207
Tony's definitely acting irrationalnover Rhodey, but he has a point. Even with these visions of the future (if they're even visions and not some subconscious reality powers) they can't go around arresting and/or taking out people based on some kid's predictions. Thanks was one thing, but it's only a matter of time before shit gets out of hand.
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>>83793535
>For getting in bed with them, so as much as Johnny Storm.

Beast is only figuratively in bed with Medusa, though.
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>>83800722
>Thanks
Thanos
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>>83800725
That was the joke. It's a play on the phrase. I'm not sure if double entendre works for something when used literally but yeah.
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>>83797405
Miss America is more powerful then the entirety of the Squadron alone
Blue Marvel = Hyperion
Captain Marvel > Spectrum (probably)
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>>83794532
>Alright. This is now officially "Everyone is being a complete and utter moron in order to produce conflict" - The Comic.
Tony is the single moron here.
Carol has not done jack shit wrong.
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>>83800860
Is she? I've never seen anything that implied Ms. America was that strong
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>>83793098
This is a comic event with the word War following the word Civil. It is required for Tony Stark to have a more sensible and agreeable position but act completely erratic and irrational to make the other side look morally superior.

At least the movie gave that aspect of Civil War Stark some damn good context...
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>>83797913
Dr.Banner would you mind coming with us, no big deal, also, by-the-by remember how you once said She-Hulk was the one good thing to come out of your Hulkness...well she's comatose/dead....so come quietly with us, NO CLINT NO!!!
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>>83799169
This. Plus Bendis is burnt out creatively, so even his Miles Morales writing is bad now. He doesn't write plots, he has villains get mad and attack the heroes for very simplistic reasons.
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>>83800903
She is a reality warper. Comparable to the Scarlet Witch.
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>>83800898
She's only wrong in the way she led the Ultimates and Inhumans against Thanos.... which also has nothing to do with Ulysses, but it makes her an incompetent leader.

So yes, >>83794532 is completely right.
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>>83800898
>Carol has not done jack shit wrong.

Yet.

She's still probably going to end up "right but very immoral due to excessive brutality" like Tony was in the 1st Civil War.
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>>83801172
>She's only wrong in the way she led the Ultimates and Inhumans against Thanos.... which also has nothing to do with Ulysses, but it makes her an incompetent leader.
What did she do wrong against Thanos?
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>>83792754

>hold a cure over their heads

wait, what?
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>>83793310

>no one is likeable this time

I dunno, I got no beef with Carol
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>>83795731
>a much weaker team than the one Carol brought
>Hulk
>Thor
>Hyperion
>Carol
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>>83793098
Does no one see Tony trying to help this kid understand his Inhuman powers? Something the Inhumans didn't, even though Ulysses was a subject under direct care of Medusa and all her resources. All they did was haul him up in their ivory tower.

Tony even made a copy of the brain scan to keep doing actual work. He's not using time and power of destroying random buildings to show off he has the time and power to destroy random buildings.

Tony released Ulysses and was willing to feign peace through a ruse but Ulysses didn't want to play along. A flick to the head and scare is hardly torture. There was no autopsy. If you don't like how Tony and Friday went about it that's cute, but they've actually helped the kid make progress in a few uncomfortable minutes something no one else did in all their time, luxury and connections.
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>>83801130
Since when? I just remember a flying brick who can make portals, not even a notable flying brick
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>>83792678

>Karnak destroys Stark Tower
>Peter Parker shows up like "what the FUCK I JUST BOUGHT THAT"
>HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE WORSE THAN MUTANTS?

In a world where Bendis isn't a hack and can call back to his previous works.
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