Dark Knight Returns The Last Crusade Storytime

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Even with this story, the DKR universe feels incomplete without ASBAR vol2

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nice they remembered he had the oval symbol suit

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damn

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interesting to see Millerverse Croc

>>83789181
>Good Romita
Where have you been, my lord?

i'm debating whether or not i should read this.

on the one hand, it's got the best joker (miller's)

on the other, i don't think i can stomach any more miller-related disappointment.

thanks anyway op

>>83789188
>LOSS on the first page

The Absolute Madmen!

>>83789181
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S FINALLY FUCKING HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>83789196
>Old Beat-Often

Huh. Not bad. Crude, but not bad.

>>83789376
>>83789387
>>83789399
>the joke is literally that there is no joke

>>83789675
it's pretty good

>>83789675
Dark Knight III is decent though.

I'm actually really enjoying this. Way better than DK3.

Thanks for the story time

>>83789772
i'll take your word for it

>>83789795
miller didn't write that

FRANK THE TANK MILLER
JRJR

BEST TEAM IN COMICS

>>83789312
Cool masks.

>>83789815
He co-plots, helps with dialog and he also writes and draws some of the mini comics. DK3 is still Frank's

>>83789340
>>83789327
For some reason, this Bruce feels even older than how he'll act and be in TDKR.

>>83789399
>>83789768
The joke is that Joker thinks he's still a headflop guy while all the other crazy people are relatively sane or at least, "fixed" as per the medical standard.

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>>83789840
That may be explained by the missing stuff in all star vol2, he calmed down a bit towards the end when Dick made him more human

>>83789413
>hetshit
Disgusting. He should be cuddling Joker in Arkham with those big, strong arms.

The Dark Knight Returns - The Last Crusade 001 (2016) (Webrip) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP)
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>>83789484
You cheeky fuck.

>>83789551
>>83789543
>>83789529
>>83789517
Feeling more Year One here. I like.

>>83789327
This Bruce feels older than later.

>>83789898
Oh Jason, when will it ever work out for you?

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>I will never forget Jason. He was a good soldier. He honored me.
>But the war goes on.

The end.

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Lee Bermejo variant

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Bill Sienkiewicz variant

>>83789616
Fucking puns.

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Miller variant

>>83789768
Heathcliff was Joker all along.

>>83789509
He seems not far off from the Azzarello/Bermejo version from the Joker GN, so I wonder if it's Azzarello's decision.

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Jim Lee variant

>>83789637
>>83789627
This made me remember that Miller's Joker is actually one of the quieter iterations of the character.

>>83789939
damn

So, did Batman capture him after that? Because he was in the asylum again, back in DKR.

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>>83789975

>>83789988
probably the last thing he did before hanging up the cape

>>83789988
He did, and then he retired. And that was when the Joker gave up.

>>83789988
I'd assume Batman found the Joker, beat him so hard to put him in coma and then retired

>>83789886
>I never enjoyed this war
Fucking
Lies
How much you enjoyed this war was a goddamn meme, Bruce.

>>83789864
I wonder if we'll ever find out how Dick went from pretty classic Dick to Joker 2.0.

>>83789509
I don't mind this Croc, desu.

>>83790063
He was young, anon!

>>83790063
Read the following three panels.

>>83789939

Thanks OP.

Really enjoyed both this and Tom King's first Batman book too.

>>83789840
I think it's to give the other reason why he decides to retire. After all, the main universe's Batman didn't retire after the death of Jason.

And then once he comes out of retirement he's generally more refreshed than he's ever been.

>>83789983

Miller's Joker is best Joker.

>>83790063
If there's one thing consistent with Miller's Batman it's that Batman's inconsistent and changes his mind a lot.

Assuming that Holy Terror would've been part of the Millerverse Batman canon, he kills terrorists in an act of war. Then he does brutal injuries to corrupt cops between that time and what we've seen in All Star Batman. He treats Dick badly but does all right with Jason and Carrie (mainly because he wasn't used to having a partner at first). He scolds Spawn for not caring about human life and refuses to kill the Joker in DKR. He applauds Hawkman's son for killing Luthor and is willing to kill Dick Grayson in DK2.

>>83789740
Damn, Bats.

>>83789939

That was pretty damn good.

>>83789846
>in other news, the lunatics have taken over the Asylum again
I love this part. People are so used to lunatics taking over the Asylum it's put in "woman and her twenty goldfishes" news area.

>>83790210
9/11 fucked Miller up.

>>83790273
He seems to have gotten better though. Like, finally doing Holy Terror released a lot of those pent up emotions.

>>83789873
>>83789886
So... if Jason was there for little longer, he wouldn't go out and get whacked?

>>83789815
He came up with the story, co-plots, consults on the dialogue and general scripting, and does the backups on his own.

Azz scripts.

So yeah, he did co-write it even if Azz did most of the work.

>>83790319
Could be.

>>83790357
This. Azz and Miller meet every month or so and talk. Azz takes notes and flies back home to write the script.

>>83789868
this. they didn't even fucking interact.

the homolust was severely lacking. bruce and joker don't even feel like husbands.

I liked that jason's death just comes at the very end and the issue really just focuses on batman being a tired old man and hoping jason could be the next batman.

The art is good. The writing is amazing

This feel Year One era Frank Miller. This is good. Is Miller finally sane and back?

>>83790529
No, it's perfect. Some people in a marriage take each other for granted after years and years of being together.

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dark knight boy wonder fucking when?

>>83789354
Hey, they remembered he had the yellow oval chest emblem during this time! I'm glad to see that.

>>83790657
When Jim Lee stops being a lazy shit or they give the book to an artist with a similar style.

>>83789181
>Azzarello
Argh!

>>83790692

It's cause JRJR is fucking great when he's working with Frank.

>>83790706
Well the pages that sound Azzarello-y are Croc's dialogue and >>83789637

There's probably some others, though.

>>83789637
that Hate=8=∞ bit is brilliant, the sort of thing that you'd expect Morrison or Moore to come up with, with the craziness Miller exhibited for a long time you forget that he's also pretty brilliant in that manner, if in a slightly more down to earth manner

>>83790357
>>83789795
My main concern with Dark Knight 3 is that it lacks teeth.

DKR and TDKSA for as "dark" as they were, were pretty damn crazy. You didn't know what was going to happen next. What crazy cameo or threat would pop up next. What wacko pop culture commentary would pop up. Oh shit, it's Two-Face! Now it's Cyclops! Joker? SUPERMAN GOT NUKED?! Now it's several years later and Braniac is destroying Metropolis in a giant frog, Ray Palmer is Micro Robinson Crusoe, Plastic Man is ball, Green Lantern is a God, and Superman & Wonder Woman just wrecked a fucking mountain by FUCKING.

The Master Race? It's just a bunch of evil Kryptonians. Granted, they're supposed to be Kryptonian ISIS, but it's still very rote compared to the madness of its two predecessors.

>>83790621
No, because Azzarello most likely wrote most of it.

>>83790657

Heartbreaking to see him like this.

And yet the newer stuff is so much better.

***

So was this a one-shot? It is fine as a one-shot, it needs no follow-up, not really...

It even gently deals with ASBAR.

>>83791100

DK2 was a bad trip. There's 'holy shit' and there is 'batshit' and it's a fine line.

>>83789988
>batman beats him bloody, captures him, and takes him to arkham
>before handing joker over to the orderlies, batman leans close to him, pets his hair, and whispers into his ear
>"I think we should take a break."
>joker looks at him, apparently stunned, and gapes for a moment before recollecting himself
>"What will you do without me?"
>batman takes a step back, looking smug
>"Selina Kyle."
>it takes a moment for this to register
>batman fucks off back to wayne manor
>joker spends the next ten years in a catatonia

>>83789981

DAMMIT LEE YOU'RE JUST TAUNTING US NOW

>>83790869
I don't know. It sounds more like a thing Azzarello would write. He constantly does that kind of wordplay in his comics.

What's with Azzarello and word play? Is that his fetish?

>>83791458

With a name like that, I would not be surprised at all.

>>83789196
Those fucking morons

>>83789203
I want to fuck him.

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>>83789484
>funny Joker
Yes, pelase

>>83789637
I am on the fucking floor

>>83789864
>Ehh, he'll kills some people, get bored and go home.

Oh Bats

>>83789864
>Bruce,...
>Batman--
>Jason--!

It's the little things

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>>83791253

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>>83789181
>jrjr shittn art.
Just my opinion.
Old. Outdated. Static. Not detailed. Sloppy I get by my name only art

>>83792487
>Old. Outdated.
?
>Static.
Each and every shot is dynamic, even when people are resting in place.
>Sloppy
An expressive art style isn't inherently bad. Works for Quietly, Pope and others.
>I get by my name only art
If that were the case, everyone's sons, daughters and mothers would be in the comic industry.

And just to be clear, this isn't a blind JRJR defense force, because i hate when he goes by his deadline style, but this obviosly isn't.

>>83789839
It's cute that you think he was anything more than a creative consultant for DK3.

>>83791138
>batshit
Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel

>>83792487
Is detailed art inherently good?

>>83792487
This is good JRJr. Probably his best work in years

>>83793050
Yup. Between this and Finch on Batman, it's been a morning of appreciating artists I haven't enjoyed in a long time.

Good for DC, finally pulling out all the stops on inks/colors.

>>83793283
Batman has been in some good artistic hands somewhere before New52, and not just the solo title, but all around.

Huh, this almost works as a prologue to BvS as well.

>>83792487
>outdated
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>83792487
Sloppy is a better word for his current style. He was awesome back in the day though.

>>83789636
inkers.

>>83793354
I'd say it works even more as a prologue to BvS, actually. His dialogue with Alfred about old men wanting to be young screamed Batfleck to me, and Alfred seemed very similar to Jeremy Irons in terms of his mannerisms here.

This has been "It's Fucking Nothing" the comic book.

>>83795064
Normally I wouldn't expect a Miller book to go over someone's head but here we are.

>>83795165
>a Miller book
You mean Azzarello, right?.

>>83795165
Explain.

>>83789181
That was superb. I'm not even really a fan of TDKR or JRJR, but everything gelled together so well here.

>Bruce feeling his age
>Jason revelling in violence
>Joker turning a mad house madder

great stuff

>>83789312
>good internal monologues that actually describe the scene without interrupting the action
I missed you Frank

>>83789636
>>83794612
Also coloring, Romita's work looks awful with most modern colorists, as does Miller's.

>>83790706
This reads way more Miller than DK3

>>83795488
This wasn't an event book, it was a character study of Bruce and Jason.

>>83790357
His heart wasn't in it though, pretty sure they did it to fund his funeral/help his family out with money after he died, but then, he got better and did this, as well as the backups which were previously unannounced.
I cite the heart was not in it thing on some interviews/panels with him and Azz, like the NYCC one, and also his twitter q&a where he was asked "what was the inspiration behind DK3" and he responded "Brian Azzarello"

>>83789939
That was a lot better than I was expecting. Not as amazing as TDKR, but definitely a very worthy prequel.

>>83789469
>Bruce just sits there and watches Ivy twerk in his free time
Cool

>>83795792
Miller stopped giving a shit about comics 15 years ago. DKSA/ASBAR is what it looks like when a master of a craft stops trying.

Isn't MillerBats more brutal and ruthless? He is very different from ASBAR and DKR

Question, will there be more issues of this? Or it's over?

>>83789312
>Freaking masks

This is genuinely good. I enjoyed Miller Year One and DKR as well as his Daredevil run.

I loathed holy terror and the stupidity that was DKSA and ASBAR.

I am still lukewarm to DK3 due to the iffyness of kryptonian ISIS but this right here is pretty good. It's genuinely hard to imagine this batman being the insane version from ASBAR.

Add in the fact we finally get some good Romita art in years, this will be my first Miller purchase in a long long time.

Thanks for the storytime.

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>The most Human batman in years has been written by the guy that did Batgod in the first place
Sometimes i forget that Miller nails humanization of pretty much everyone

>>83797329
>Miller Batman is Batgod

do people throw the batgod meme around just for fun now?

>>83789828

Damn Romita


This Ivy is creppy... and sexy

>>83797062
This is a one-shot, but Dark Knight III is still coming out.

>>83797329
>Miller
>Batgod

Pick one and only one. Morrison pretty much invented that faggotry.

>>83789312
I really like getting a these Batman stories with a voice that isn't the super analytical and infallible strategist Bruce. Also interesting to see Miller's Gotham at the pinnacle of the shit, where you were most likely absolutely fucked on a daily basis

>>83795436
Is it your book if another writer gives you plot and you just fill in words?

That surprised me with how good it was. Thanks storytimer.

>>83790273
this is the worst meme on /co/

>>83789819
When have they ever worked together before?

>>83789267
>ASBAR will never finish

>>83798998
>Jim Lee still manages to find the time to draw a few issues of Suicide Squad

DC probably doesn't want to publish it

>>83798841

Daredevil: Man without Fear

and maybe some other Elektra shit

>>83798841
realy?

Why is this Batman so different than usual Miller's Bats?

>>83789840
Well he said that going back felt refreshing, so I guess the days before his retirement were heavily stressfull

>>83789413
>I'll put the costume on
OH MY bruce ya lucky bastard

>>83789426
MOMS

>>83789607
>last pannel
I'm going to have so much fun posting it off contest.

>>83795971
Better than anything that has been released since DKR for sure.

>>83799708
Hes about 45 here, old and tired. Right before he retires.

>>83789939
>beaten with crowbar and then blown up
>tortured to insanity
>brains bashed in by nameless mooks
which end is the worst, last one clenches it for me, miller joker would probably have them leave the corpse out in the street or strung up somewhere

Thanks, OP.

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>>83801115
Who cares? Batman certainly doesn't.

>>83789713
Jason just nut check that guy?

>>83801663
aw, batman is worried about his husband.

That TMZ reference felt odd

Maybe because all the media depictions in his Batworld have been prophetic with how the news cycles will become, while this is kind of, current?

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>>83801663

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>>83801958
Naturally

>>83789239
This page is hella gay

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>>83802180
>Batman has held Joker in his arms more times than he has Damian

>>83802024
Aren't All Star Batman and Holy Terror kind of "current" as well? DKR and DK2 were the only ones that were prophetic.

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>>83801958
Isn't he always?

>tdkr bruce has been active 20-25 years
>only 2 robins
how long was dick robin do you guys think, how old is Jason supposed to be during this

>>83801663
This Batman may care slightly more since he previously ruined a Robin and doesn't want it to happen again

>>83789768
>>the joke is literally that there is no joke
Joker is talking about torturing Jason since the beginning.

>>83802548
this, I think after that talk with Alfred and his impending retirement he wanted to finally act more fatherly toward Jason. He wants someone to preserve his legacy and realizes he broke Dick mentally and notices that Jason is a little off. He wanted to teach Jason to be a better man

>>83802024
Miller claims that every DK book he writes takes place in the present day. Yes, even DKSA with President hologram Luthor.

It was good but JRJr art really carries a B story into the next level. It felt...safe, which is something unexpected considering it's Miller

>>83789368
What an asshole

That punk dindu nuffin

>>83789426
kek

i cant tell the difference between normal and beaten up jrjr faces

So how was Bruce a better Batman in his 60s than in his 40s?

>>83789616
>keeping men and women together
>not keeping Joker in isolation 24/7

Arkham is a shithole

>>83789484
I can't help but read this Joker with the voice of Mac's dad from Always Sunny. Like, similar to Ledger, but much more calm and outwardly dominating.

>>83803343
He cared less.

>>83803343
In his 40's he kept thinking that he was getting old because he kept pushing himself regularly and wasn't used to being weakened than usual.

Oh wow, this is actually good.

And I like Selina in it.

>I've never heard of this in a fighting game

>Tekken
>Soul Calibur

Thanks OP this was great

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>>83789868
>>83801663
>>83802068
this is now a batman/joker thread

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>>83804945
Batman/before-being-Joker thread

>>83802435
what is this from?

>>83789327
Wouldn't broken glass be a big problem for a kid that breaks through windows with his legs bare?

>We'll never finish All Star Batman and Robin to see how the what Dick became

bump for interset

How come he is all worried about Jason when he shat at Dick to the point of turning him into a new Joker?

>>83806803
Dick is the son he realized he ruined with his rotten parenting skills. Jason is the mulligan.

>>83806803
Because he's psychopath

>>83806803
Trial and error
In #9 and #10 he realized how shit he was to Dick and made him into a killer

>>83795782
If it's a character study, it wasn't really necessary. What did it tell us that we didn't already know? Bruce is a stubborn old man, Jason was cocky, violent and full of potential, and The Joker is a psycho? We already knew all that shit.

>>83806803
Remember that in All Star Batman, Bruce originally intended on recruiting Dick in order to have someone to pass on the mantle in the future. But then Dick's parents were unexpectedly killed and he needed to act fast.

On top of that he was still being a deranged asshole after the events of Holy Terror and living on rats in his sewer Batcave for a while.

He probably mellowed out a little maybe somewhere after the end of All Star Batman (though if you look at Spawn/Batman, he'll still be an asshole to others) and probably wanted to treat Jason better, which is why he's not as much as asshole with him here.

>>83806964
>On top of that he was still being a deranged asshole after the events of Holy Terror and living on rats in his sewer Batcave for a while
What

>>83806934
We only knew Jason is cocky, violent, and full of potential because we're basing it off of the mainline Jason. Remember that at the time Miller did DKR, Jason was practically like a Dick clone instead of the kid living on the streets.

We knew Bruce was stubborn through DKR and DK2, but we didn't realize that his concern with age and injuries were a part of what made him retire and not just because Jason got killed.

>>83807019
Why do you think he tried making Dick live in the cave and eat rats?

He was doing to Dick what he did to himself.
Except when you do it to yourself, you're just crazy, instead of it being torture when you do it to somebody else.

But yeah Holy Terror goes inbetween Year One and ASBAR.

>>83807019
Holy Terror was originally supposed to be Batman Year 1.5 as Miller said.

In All Star Batman #10, it mentions the first Batcave is the one he has under the sewers and that he lived on rats for a while. In #3 he was trying to force Dick to eat live rats.

>>83807019
>Year One
>Holy Terror (Year 1.5)
>ASBAR (Year 3)
>Dark Knight Boy Wonder should this ever happen
>Spawn/Batman
>The Last Crusade
>DKR
>TDKSA
>DKIII

Holy Terror was a originally a Batman story, and Miller said all of his Batman stuff is in one universe. If you go to forums talking about ASBAR from like a decade ago you may see the occasional mention of Miller working on Holy Terror/Batman vs Al Qaeda

>>83789239
Is Jason trying to flirt with Bruce in the 4th panel?

>>83807606
If Bruce fucked him like he did Dick, then yes.

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>>83807092
Like he says on this page.
>"Here, where I lived on rats"

>>83806803
Because Dick is a faggot

Joker smoking is great for some reason

>>83807451
Year One is in the DKR universe? Weird, tone always seemed so different to me.

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>>83807960
this joker is pretty smoking. hot, i mean.

>>83808059
Yeah the explanation was Holy Terror just made him more unhinged, and he was at worst a budding action junkie in Year One.

reading bump, thanks op

>>83789977
Miller and JRJR just confirmed Croc's inclusion (and why he looks like the one from the Azz/Bermejo Joker GN) was all Azz's suggestions.

>>83807451
well, holy terror was originally a batman story, but it technically isn't now so why include it in miller's universe?

>>83810770
It still counts, he just can't explicitly refer to it.

>>83789489
>cab of the batmobile is red like ASBAR and TDKR

i like consistency.

>>83789426
JUST

>>83789517
>thigh pouches
>oval

i LOVE that they remembered

>>83790869
it was literally from schoolhouse rock

>>83812745
which episode?

>>83810770
We never see how Batman and Catwoman got together between Year 1 and All Star Batman. Holy Terror sort of fits in.

>>83813032
not him but i think it's "figure eight"

>>83812745

he did say he got it from a cartoon

>>83807960
Smoking's cool when the character ACTUALLY smokes. Nowadays, and that's probably due to all sorts of legal stuff and things like that, characters just swing the cigarette around in their hand and then put it out even if they just lit it up, but JOKER, he enjoys it, he sucks it in puffs it out, the whole drill. He really smokes, and doesn't just act like it. Also it suits his quiet, observant and calm persona.

Really hope we get more of these one shots

>>83814930
miller-verse specifically, or just one shots similar to this?

>>83814930
>a oneshot dedicated to Millerverse Dick getting fired

Fucking do it if Lee won't finish ASBAR

>>83789576
Its weird how.

Not Millar Batmanny Bruce sounds here. He's stable!

oh god is it the pills.

>>83789181
As much as I like Batman and some other characters, but.. mostly Batman, in the main continuity, it's so important and a fucking relief to have something outside that universe, something were there's actually creative freedom and no tie-ins, universal events and all that jazz, just self-contained stories with fresh takes on characters, new character dynamics, new settings etc.

>>83796463
I really don't think that's the case, especially ASBR, as well as the backups to DK3 which were as I said were unscheduled until he recovered and got his spark back. Also casuals as usual didn't read his post 9/11 Martha Washington.
Different storytelling style that you don't like isn't not trying. I'll agree he got sloppy and arrogant, probably was more resistant to editors and the people who proofed the art.

>>83815688
Yea I don't understand why they didn't bring back a Legends of the Dark Knight or Brave and the Bold title for Batman so he can have short status quo free stories. It is the best way to have the character exist.
Rotating writers, hire Dini back for every other story, get new or Batman-virgin talent for the rotation

>>83816243
You could say that Batman is pretty oversaturated as is, so maybe they're afraid that adding more Bat titles would finally break the camel's-- or in this case, the bat's back, and as much as I would like to see more different Batmen, they are probably right.

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>>83807960
>>83808131
That's my fetish

>>83817014
there's only two batbooks for now
unless you are counting all the various bat-characters as batbook

>>83810770
If you look at Holy Terror, you could easily see Fixer was obviously supposed to be Batman, Natalie Stack was obviously supposed to be Catwoman, and Donegal is obviously supposed to be Gordon. Donegal also has the same rank Gordon has at the end of Year One. Batman and Catwoman barely meet in Year One but by All Star Batman they're already lovers. Since Miller said Holy Terror is Batman Year 1.5, it shows the six months between the end of Year One and Holy Terror that Batman has constantly been after Catwoman and are kind of foes.

You can read Holy Terror as actually how Batman and Catwoman get together and why he might've decided to leave the mansion for a while and live in the sewer while eating rats, as you see in >>83807822 . The only issue would be that Fixer uses guns and kills terrorists, but if you keep in mind that All Star Batman was very careless about possible bystanders (like Vicki), then Holy Terror and the early All Star Batman is like some batshit insane version of the pre-Robin Golden Age Batman with the guns and all that.

And as >>83790210 pointed out Miller's Batman is prone to changing his mind drastically.

Shit, you can even imagine Alfred's dialogue in >>83789886 about Bruce possibly enjoying the war as referring to not just All Star Batman but also Holy Terror.

There better be a sneaky part 2 to this. It was good, but the ending fizzled and ultimately contributed nothing to the universe. It didn't explain anything we didn't already know and it basically ended on a cliffhanger.

Thanks, OP.

>>83817960
we already know how it ends, remember it is the journey that matters and not the destination.

>>83818244
>it is the journey that matters
Exactly, which is why the story needs to be finished. Otherwise all we're left with is the destination.

>>83793354
>>83794861
Ah fuck, could you guys imagine this comic actually made into a prequel of BvS? I would cream myself if it was as good as this.

Didn't Bats break The Joker's neck in TDKR?
Unrelated: the art looks good for JRJ, but I'm tempted to say it's all the colourist.

>>83820349
He paralyzed the Joker in TDKR then Joker finished himself off.

>>83820357
Right, so this is a prequel?

>>83820377
Yep.

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>>83820357
>>Joker finished himself off.

>>83789181
Azzarello is such a shit writer
Even working with Miller can save his garbage

>>83820377
Yeah.

>>83820349
Old school JRJR was pretty solid. He just needs to not rush things like he always does nowadays.

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>ywn fuck the Joker
JDIMSA

Damn, this book made me realize how much I miss older Batman with detective shit and beating up criminals instead of this CSI/batgod/iron-man hybrid that is in today.

As several anons suggested, we really need an anthology ongoing like LOTDK so we can get more varied portrayals of Batman on a regular basis.

>>83821039
I don't really trust the modern industry to treat classic characters with any respect anymore.

>>83817960
this. i really want to see joker be destroyed by batman disappearing.

>>83822200
That said, it seems like the only quality comics DC produces anymore are rare as fuck, but at least they occasionally exist.

>>83820897
even if he were real, his heart is sworn to batman. i'm sorry anon

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>>83789981
For fucking real?

>>83820592
Literally the only thing wrong with this is Azz's name attached to it

>>83820592
It is like DC goes "hey who could we get to destroy classic stuff from the 80's who is so shit they will happily destroy Watchmen and TDKR?"
" I think we have a guy this bald asshole in Chicago"

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IGN "review"
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/15/the-dark-knight-returns-the-last-crusade-1-review

>>83824746
"Too faithful in some repescts"
>repescts

>>83824746
Who the fuck goes to IGN for comics?

>>83824746
>ign

>>83824746
>Implying IGN aren't retards with awful taste
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/19/harley-quinn-28-review

Crazy that this was originally solicited for February.

>>83825627
IGN rated Red Hulk above Superman Beyond

>>83825635
I wanna know if it was JRJR being late or Miller changing something

>>83824746
They're kinda correct.

>>83824746
too faithful? what?

>>83825641
That's enough grounds to embarrass them

>>83823908
What other prequels and sequels to DC comics will Azzarello work on?

>>83791253
underrated post

Thanks, OP.

>>83809820
>In "Last Crusade," we see a couple of big Batman characters that we haven't seen in the Dark Knight world before -- Killer Croc and Poison Ivy. What motivated incorporating these two villains into this story?

>Miller: Batman's always been notoriously known for having the sexiest female villains around, from Catwoman on. Poison Ivy was inevitable to make her way into the Dark Knight world.

>Killer Croc -- I know that one came from Brian. He's had a thing for Killer Croc for a long time.

>John, what inspired your take on Killer Croc? He's not as Croc-like, and more human.

>Romita: Brian sent me some reference on his version that he had worked on [in the "Joker" graphic novel, illustrated by Lee Bermejo]. The size and the skin problems were just about it. It was less about the likeness to the Croc than it was about the size.

>I love gigantic characters; I love when [characters are] getting bounced around like a tennis ball. It connects to the fact that Batman has lost it in his own mind. He's losing it, and it leads to his decision to retire. The character was fun. That's like driving around in fancy car, you just put it into the next gear and you go. It's fun to play with gigantic characters, and you love beating up the hero.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/interview-miller-romita-reunite-for-new-dark-knight-returns-story

>>83817038
I'm thinking this more broadly and counting the games (Injustice 2 and Arkham games), movies (live-action and animated), tv (Gotham, but this is debatable ofc), countless cameos in almost every DC title recently to get a reader boost and yes, his own books like: Last Crusade, Detective comics, Batman, Batman: Earth One, the upcoming vertigo book by Paul Dini titled Dark Night: The true Batman story, Master Race, and so on.

That guy's everywhere.

>>83789469

>that Tim nod
Thank you, Miller.

Also, glad to see JRJR hasn't completely lost it, those DC variants he did had me pretty worried.

It's only one issue? That's lame, I sort of enjoyed this, I like seeing Batman get his shit pushed in a little.

>>83828985
It's talking about Carrie, not Tim.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dark-knight-iiis-carrie-kelley-is-more-intelligent-than-bruce-wayne-miller-says

>>83824746
Those minus are mind boggling.

>>83798804
It is. Frank Miller was pretty much always retarded.

i don't understand, was this same Bruce and Batman in all star and strikes aging ?
In those two works,he was like a very unpleasant cold blooded jerk that does not even care about Jason and anyone unlike in this one and return. If Frank can write Batman this likable, what did he wrote him like that in those two books ?

>>83829781
Yes it's the same Batman. All of Miller's Batman stuff are in the same timelime. >>83807451

He did care about Dick to some extent, like the only times he felt bad about anything in ASBAR was when Dick was involved. And he did identify with Dick with the whole parents being dead thing, and there were times where he tried to be buddy buddy with him but Dick wouldn't cooperate like Batman wanted or acted out too much.
But he just cared about the mission more so he put Dick through all that stuff and is a really harsh mentor because he wants a replacement/apprentice to take over when he dies or gets too old. He went through the stuff himself and was like "damn I'm awesome so he'll be awesome too", except putting yourself through it just means you're crazy but doing it somebody else, especially a kid, is basically torture.

>>83829781
Where'd you get the impression he didn't care about Jason? He treated Dick badly in All Star and said Jason honored him.

>>83807451
I wouldn't count Holy Terror, I think it's impossible to reconcile with the Batman character and does not have the influence of editorial to align it with the rest of Miller's DC work

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>>83830118
If Millerverse ended at DKR, I would agree.

But DK2 had this.

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>>83830179
So I could really believe him killing people early on if DK2 is included.

>>83830118
It fits in Millerverse just fine >>83817091

Miller apparently barely changed stuff in it from when it was a Batman project.

>>83830232
>Miller apparently barely changed stuff in it from when it was a Batman project.
Exactly why it doesn't fit

>>83830355
That's why it does fit

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>>83789651
>>83789659
>Bruce's busted lip

>>83789740
>Jason caught Ivy

wow, last time I remember him doing anything helpful was.... that time he threw a plant at Mongul.

>>83789846

Jesus fuck, the shit that passes as "Normal to the point of boring" in Gotham News....

>>83830207
Bullshit, there's no way he would go from "Lucky Amateur" to "KILL KILL KILL" and then not kill the Joker in DKR

>>83789886
>I never enjoyed this war
>Master Bruce, what about the time you dressed up in a different color bat suit every night for a week?
>I WAS YOUNG SHUT UP ALSO THE RAINBOW RAIDER IS SERIOUS SHIT, STOP FUCKING LAUGHING AT ME.

>>83789957
Did he do that Morrison Arkham story?

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>>83789981
>>83823827
>Jim Lee
>Tracing his old shit

OH MY GOOOOOOD

>>83830179
>>83830207
Thank you for reminding me that DK2 was a festering pile of shit.

Wait, not thank.

Fuck you. Thats what I meant. FUCK YOU for reminding me that DK2 existed.

>>83830891
it wasn't that bad ...was it?

>>83830045
i made a mistake, sorry, i was thinking about Dick .
So why is he so bad and abusive toward dick compare to other robins (other robins were never force eat rats and other mental abuse)
? Dick is supposes to be the best robin and the one that have best relationship with him. The way he treat him in strikes does not appear he love him at all

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>>83824746
I don't see anything significantly wrong in this review.

The Last Crusade was a very enjoyable reading experience, and I liked every second of it, but when actually start thinking about what actually went down in the book, well, at least I personally felt underwhelmed.
It felt like it was cut off too early, and what confuses me is, that is this a #1 like some websites say or is this IT? If there's still more to come, then I get why I feel the way I do, but if this is seriously all there'll be, then it really was a lackluster in many ways.

>Miller

>>83831616
I agree. It's not really groundbreaking, and part of the appeal is that it's more subtle than the recent Miller output, hell, even in regards to Batman it's played small scale and subdued, which is a welcome change if a bit safe

>>83831248
Depends on how much of a pleb you are

>>83831594
see
>>83830034

He did care about him some, but he just cared about the mission more and didn't know what he was doing
And Dick apparently started going crazy so I can see why Bruce wouldn't like him too much except for nostalgia goggles or something

>>83830840
Tracing? What the fuck are you even talking about? Did you even look at both of the pictures? Fucking hell, man. I don't think tracing means what you think it means.

>>83832937
not him, but you're right-- it's not tracing. the asbar cover is more detailed, and a lot more visually interesting. and the pose is slightly different.

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>>83830620
Batman was fucking eating live rats before he recruited Dick Grayson. It was probably when Vicki almost died and Dick almost killed Hal that he went over the top in making sure he didn't actually kill anyone.

In Spawn/Batman he was upset at Spawn killing people.

reading bump

thank you OP

>>83831594
Would you love a crazy killer anon?

>>83831594
>why is he so bad and abusive toward dick compare to other robins
he was subjecting dick what he subjected to himself except dick is 12 and doing it to somebody else is called torture
he learned after dick almost killed hal that teaching him to kill was a pretty bad idea and he shouldn't have done it

and as we see in this storytime bruce seemingly wanted to teach jason how to be a better man so jason wouldn't turn out like himself and presumably dick

so dick was a guinea pig and was a lesson in how to train and teach others better and to not be an asshole

>>83812745
>>83813743
https://youtu.be/EvqrAwrAs1A

this is actually a kind of spooky. where the hell did joker see it, though?

>>83838718
Maybe they played it in Arkham.

bumping to read.

>>83840371

>>83838103
Yet he show no regrets or that he's sorry for dick become a psychopath when they meet again and still verbally insulting him like he's nothing to him. Wasn't he like a son to him ?

>>83842748
Well Dick was insane so no use trying to help him

I do think right after he died Batman looked forlorn and said something nice but I haven't read it in a while.

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>>83843005

>>83840371

>>83840371