Weekend /co/ creation thread

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Last thread:

-New pics
-Talking about where in the space setting /co/smic beings should fit in
-July DeForthe and how her time to shine is coming up soon
-New Golden Girl pics and comic (pic related)
-Manly Men on Quests support group?
-What gods in the setting are

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Some of the other new stuff from last thread.

Jetpack Viking has been a popular sketch subject lately.

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If there are many different versions of the Golden Attendant living on the giant space jellyfish, Belvraik, have the built a golden city on it?

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Odds are Ladybug will get exactly what she's asking for.

weekly bump.

>>83686509
pic angers me!

the american flag is the most opressive flag in existence! take that pic down!

i want /pol/ to leave now!

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>>83688333
Since it looks like we're in for another slow thread, I might as well ask again what anons like to see in space settings.

>>83688793
Space Whales

>>83688834
Do space whales eat space krill?

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>>83688834
Well I guess if there's giant space jellyfish and giant space worms there can be space whales too.

>>83688793
Is that lips or a moustache?

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>>83689271
Lips.

>>83689632
I see, it's just how I saw it.

No offense intended.

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>>83690068
I don't think any offense was taken.

Dr. Castle is underutilized.

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What's the firecracker trade like in the /coc/ setting?

Are there any special fireworks made by characters who have powers to make impossible things with the right materials?

>>83688872
Would space krill metabolize solar winds?

>>83691146
Well she specially is a super gadget-hero that makes all her own tools and has a particular focus on explosions.

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Eisernes Kreuz, the Iron Cross, master german engineer and pioneering scientist. Descendent of secret german and japanese science initiatives with their roots in Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany now he fights to put their unspeakable work to good use.

Can The Iron Cross escape his past or is he forever damned by the sins of his fathers?

>>83688793
I'm fond of pulp scifi myself. need more green lanterns and novas doing space shit, more han solos and lando calrissians and kirks and siscos.

>>83686509

Never been in one of these before. Who is that hot woman in the title pic and where can I find more pics of her?

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>>83693716
That's Silver Queen, Golden Age superheroine and mentor to Golden Girl, the kid sidekick that puberty hit like a truck.

Since GG is the main character of the concept, SQ actually has very little solo art.

>>83688793
colonization stories can be fun.

>>83693522

>Sins of the father

WHOA-HOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>83694053
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>>83694147

More of the latter than the former, I can assure you.

>>83693522
This feels like it's more for a "work on your art" thread, for some reason. How many new people don't know what /coc/ "universe" entails ITT? Not trying to be an asshole, I'm actually curious.

>>83694253
well thanks, though I admit to being fond of cheese so mock away. (not my art btw, kind drawbro on /tg/)

he's meant to be a sort of play on Iron Man's Armor Rivals/Villains. A half jap/half german baby rescued from division 731/Mengele experiments who grows to inherit Imperial Japanese and Nazi supertech that he uses to fight badguys and engage in technological development and industrialism and stuff.

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>>83693577
Well we have space cops established, now we just need some major conflict.

>>83694844
you have space empires? need those for interstellaer tensions. space religion too. finally space business for space crime.

>>83694431
I think Marvel literally has a dude in power armor named Iron Cross that fought in WW2 and survived for a hundred years, going from being a guy fighting for his country against superheroes to a guy trying to atone for his previous actions.

Not saying anything negative by bringing it up, "everything has been done" so there being another concept in the wide world of fiction with some similarities is just a coincidence, more like simply sharing a piece of trivia.

>>83695107
heroes I had no idea this dude existed. go figure.

my guy was meant more as a 60s science hero out to fight SPECTRE/HYDRA groups and clash with aging WW2 villains. Helmut Gruler is a German Atoning for Nazi Germany, Wilhelm Oda is a victim of fascist powers who's inherited their works

>>83695301
*as much as I love armored heroes

>>83694903
We have had a couple space empires in a couple of alien characters' backstories, but those are still just things in backstories.

I've wanted to work in the refinements of them in the space setting, but there's been very little interest in that and the space setting in general.

>>83695537
I'd like to help but my PC is bricked and I'm on my phone so long term typing is out. Google docs may not play nice with my PS3 but later I can hop on that and try to rattle out some space organizations.

>>83695602
In terms to space stuff, this is one of the things I was doing a while ago in the threads:
http://the-conservatory.wikia.com/wiki/The_Pineapple_Cake/Ship_Logs

Mostly just to see what I could come up with. I feel like it's all rather dry. I'll get back to it eventually, but having other people to play off of probably would've lead to it being better than what it is currently.

There's also:
http://the-conservatory.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Extraterrestrial_Species_in_the_/co/verse
for lore stuff.

The PKs have smashed about 3 space empires. They were formed to combat some kind of uplifter race, then smashed a couple other empires who were using salvaged genetic engineering tech from them.

As for active empires, there's some guy called Nyxiontus who likes flaunting his power and messing with other races. He's more classically evil than modern evil, he plays by some kind of old code where if the hero was "heroic" enough in his own eyes, then they get to win for the day.

>>83695952
will look over it later, should be neat.

>>83696003
>>83695952
I find myself annoyed by the Facerinti..
and the general use of the word 'Solar' for scifi.

Sol is the name of our sun. The Solar System is our system. alien systems should be named after their sun

end nerd rant.

>>83696327
Consider it something lost in translation then.

For instance, if an alien species were to exist and have solar technology much like ours, what else could we call it? Calling it dabinokar technology doesn't really tell you what it is. A lot of the times you need to take contextual liberties with these things.

>>83696736
Star System

Stellar Titan

Sun Panels. I won't give you solar panels it's not 'solar technology' they're Photo Voltaic cells.

even beyond the nitpicking on stuff like solar systems aliens shouldn't call their champion a solar titan. Stellar Titan or Sun Lord maybe.

there's better words for this.

'lost in translation' is a lazy excuse.

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>>83696870
I'm not going to bother arguing that since I'm not the one who named it.

Here's a pic of the thing when Nyxiontus stole it because he could.

>>83697252
Looks demonic. Also like pink lemonade

>>83697252
Star Titan or whatever works.

look if you actually want to build a wide ranging interstellar environment to explore you have to be careful with names.

sure we have shit like cities named paris in the USA but in worldbuilding consistency is important.

and I dunno, vague parralax/ion vibes from that thing.

imtentional I suppose.

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>>83697310
Well it is being controlled in that instance by some kind of... anime(?) space villain parody.

>>83697390
Parody often ends up serving as the foundation of projects around here. It's best not to take things too seriously.

>>83697543
REEEEEEEEER
I did say nerd rant didn't I? there's a cult of chili farmers up there. don't worry about just venting excess autism. anything on tjis galactic peaceforce in the wiki?

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>>83697732
There's no page about the PKs on the wiki yet. The organization doesn't even have an official name. Galactic Peace Keepers is just what we've been using as a place holder for like a year now.

They're sort of like the Green Lanterns in that they take members from any advanced civilization. They have sectors too (jurisdictions), but each one is run differently. Some just maintain the peace and act as space cops, but in other sectors they're more like a mafia. It depends on which species are the most prolific in each sector and how much horrible shit is in them.

A transfer from one region to the next will see the differences in protocol immediately.

In the Azalfi regions, they have strict "defend only, no planetary surface presence" policies and most members from that race are individuals who don't work in the established society.
We haven't gotten into why the Azalfi empire turned to heavily favoring self-preservation and keeping most of their people ignorant to their heritage yet since that's part of a character's story.

>>83698115
ok that's good. what's their tech work on? where did they get it from? would it be unusual for someone to have similar tech if they're from a sufficiently advanced culture?

>>83699602
Their "uniforms" are a mix of physical armor and hard light emitters. It comes from a collaboration between the races that banded together to fight off the uplifter race.

Certain species incorporate non-standard technology into their uniforms. There's some resentment towards the Ometetols in the PK's ranks since they are the only ones compatible with their symbiotes, which gives them a number of advantages on top of the tech. It's more jealousy than anything, but there's still hostilities towards races that do extensive genetic engineering, so Ometetol are often caught in the crossfire.
Ometetols also tend to have organic tech, even for space travel, but they can't do FTL with it.

Teuthoids are a race that's not part of the PK system, their tech is about at the same level, but they have more advances in genetic engineering.

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>>83703603

>>83706177
It's not spindly enough, it could be lankier.

>>83686539
What do we have left in terms of scripts?

>>83708921
Here's a new one from last thread

>PANELS 1-2: establishing shots of SQ and GG arriving and meeting the other superheroines
>"Sometimes Silver Queen brings me to [team name] meetings. They're superheroines who get together to save the world, or swap crimefighting tips, or just catch up."

>PANEL 3: the other superheroines treat GG with the sort of semi-distant affection adults usually give a friend's kid they don't see very often
>"They always tell me I'm developing into quite the superhero myself."

>PANEL 4: GG silently takes note of the fact that all the superheroines have fairly ample bosoms
>"And I've noticed they're all pretty 'developed'..."

>PANEL 5: GG looks down at her own chest, raising an eyebrow at the realization that she's the biggest one in the room
>"...But I think I might already be the most 'developed' one here!"

and an old one

-Panel one GG jolts out of bed because a hero alarm is going off
-Panel two she's struggling to get her costume on while running (like hopping on one leg)
-Panel three she gets stuck in the door on her way out
-Panel four she's dealing with the speed of the bike causing her boobs to not be cooperative (they're bouncing into her face repeatedly in the sidecar if she's in the sidecar)
-Panel five she's punching a purse snatcher in the face
-Panel six ggcivicduty.png

and there's at least a couple more somewhere in the archives.

>>83709310
>Panel six ggcivicduty.png
Searched the archive for that. Didn't it just get put into the alphabet one?

>>83709937
Yeah, there's one in the A-Z of that. She's helping an old lady carry things in that instance of civic duty though.

>remembered that idea about some 1800s person going to the magical world to build a house near a pond

Why didn't we just make them magical Thoreau going to magical Walden pond?

>>83712746
Even the gender of that proposed character idea was disputed.

I ended up recycling some of the not-Redwall stuff into the imp village Erin visited.

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An earlier design on the PKs.

Let's see if this thread makes it to morning.

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>>83712972
To be honest it makes more sense as a man. What with the true events of Thoreau going to Walden, or Orwell going to Jura, compared to the fictional events of Far From the Madding Crowd or Little Forest.

>>83693522
STANDING

>The Jagged Knife Syndicate
>A cut throat criminal organization that uses corporate foundations as it's public face. Theft, Assassination, Slave Labor, Unethical Experimentation; nothing is beyond them. They mainly operate out of the Forgotten Zone, an area of space whose maps, census data and so on were intentionally purged from every active empire's data banks via an alliance of various illicit factions several hundred years ago. Modern Empires like thw Two Sun Imperium and the Free Star Concordat are doing their best to settle the region but the locals are insular and unfriendly at best and xenophobic and homididal at worst.

>>83716535
How big a region are we talking here?

>>83717871
Presumably big enough to be worth the effort to settle it.

>>83719426
Seems like it'd be made up of the space between a couple of galactic arms.

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>>83713909
I am at the crossroads between waking and dream.
One path leads back to the world I left behind. The other path...
The other path leads to a place of shadows.
Between the familiar and the unknown, between certainty and doubt, my choice would seem obvious.
Any sane man would turn around, return to the world he knows, forget what he has learned, and live his life in blissful ignorance.
But in truth, it is too late. My choice was made many years ago, when I first embarked on this journey. I cannot turn back.
I am at a crossroads, but for me there is only one path.
I leave behind these words in the hope that, someday, they will serve as a map for someone else.
To whomever reads this, Godspeed on your journey. If you ever decide to follow in my footsteps, look me up.
-Brian Westhouse

>>83717871
>>83719426
enough for an empire and petty criminal ambitions. several hundred star systems is small in the grand order of things but pretty big in terms of yerritory and opportuinity

>>83721216
That reminds me, when >>83697543 was made, this is what was happening
>I guess what I'd really like is a space villain with charisma. Someone who can put on a show and still go toe-to-toe with the PKs without getting stomped.
>Like they've got a whole section of space they've managed to hold onto somehow and they're being classically evil about it instead of "modern realistic evil" which I find very dull and often times wishy-washy.
>Someone who doesn't deny being evil or pretend not to be evil, but openly admits that they're evil and flaunts it. Like an Evil Emperor Zurg or Hank Scorpio type almost.

And that was applied to the guy in Captain Stocking Arms' backstory.

>>83721597
I'll take it if we make classic evil villain one of the local forces rather than lord of the place.

>>83722766
Might want to run that by me again.

Nyxiontus, the purple guy, is supposed to be pretty damn powerful. He's supposed to have control over a decent amount of system and enough of a power to not get stomped by the PKs.

He's the guy who's more "personably" classically evil I think.

>>83722900
I.E. give him his own petty empire in the forgotten zone but he doesn't own and run it. it's meant to be a place where badguys can hang out without worrying about hero involvement. so it'd have your megacorps and cartels and space tyrants meeting up every couple of months to discuss pushing back settlers or destroying that new PK outpost.

>>83723263
So like a doom and latveria kinda situation

>>83688409
Nice attempt at bait kid.

Here's your (You)

>>83723483
pretty much

only the heroes won't arbitrarily respect his nation head status and create pointlessly complex plotlines where latveria isn't nuked despite doom presenting that kind of threat.

it's a big space frontier that criminals created to be criminal in. presumably this guy was in at the start.

>>83723263
I'd say make him the absolute ruler of a significant enough portion of space to be considered a threat, and at the same time so much space that there are large swathes of it he isn't really paying much attention to.

There are all sorts of territorial bickering between megacorps, criminal syndicates, or raiders, but the instant he steps foot on any planet they all shut up, stand down, and obey for as long as he's around, because he could smite any of them in a hearbeat. He just doesn't really care enough to at any given moment.

>>83724033
I think he's in it for the thrills.

He's set up this huge space filled with criminals because he wants someone to play the role of "good guy" since he can't be the villain he sees himself as if he doesn't have "good guys" trying to beat him.

He doesn't pull any punches though, if you're calling yourself a hero and can't stand up to him, then he'd sooner wipe you off the face of the galaxy then let you keep calling yourself a hero.

>>83724033
nah not feeling it. I hate Doom because he's been wanked so much. Oh hey he didn't fail that was a doom bot. oh hey doom is actually an altruist the only timeline where things turn out all right is the one where he rules the world. I'm sick of villains who show up slap their dick on the table and take over stories. make him aking with armies and fleets fine but he doesn't get to be the strongest villain in the forgotten zone. you want that just give him his own petty empire it's simpler. I don't want other villians obeying some 'honorable' mustache twirling shmuck just because he has the spotlight. He's a big villian, big whoop. Far as I'm concerned he should just be a shark in the ocean, always a bigger fish.

>>83724263
>some 'honorable' mustache twirling shmuck

You're definitely not feeling it, no.

>>83724297
exaggerating it somewhat. I just want this to be a zone for lots of villains. you seem to want this to be a place for one guy. I want a hive of scum and villainy not one guy's playground.

>>83724423
>>83724297
to take the idea further I want like an entire council of villians who run the place. Like if Lothar from Voltron and Skeletor went to business meetings to discuss who gets what crazy techno sorcery crap every month and occasionally they scrap over who gets what.

>>83724511
There should be a representative of the remnants of the empire that Pleasurepuss was enslaved to, a representative of the remnants of the empire that used huge space monsters to concur territories, probably a representative of smugglers, some space mafia guys, and Nyxiontus too.

The two different empires that only have remnants left were both smashed by the PKs.

>>83724511
easiest way to look at this is Egotism versus Profit. You have dozens of Space tyrants but ehatshisname is the biggest stringest one and treats the whole empire thing like a hobby, maybe a game of Civ.

a good counterpoint for him would probably be a (maybe literal) ice queen who runs an unethical business empire.

>>83724606
fine by me. just need characters for it though.

any details on how FTL works?

>>83724663
>>83724640
E.Z.C.

Exploitation/Evil Zone Council depending on who you ask.

something somethingmake it EZ Sleezy

>>83724663
FTL is just something we have that just works in the setting. We're just going with Star Wars logic for it and ignoring time dilation for the most part in favor of more pulp-y space stories.

We've come up with a few ideas over the years, and those were mostly placed in the /coc/ space doc that's linked to in the doc in the OP.

In the setting Dr. Castle (Carinids) and Springtime have been doing a collaboration on getting orbiting star gates up and working, they take a while to get in place, but once they're in place, you can just go from one to the other.

>>83724865
I was thinking of going with the usual wormholes, hyperlanes, warp trifecta and making the stuff remnants of shattered empires. well some of it anyway.

hyperlanes are a sort of node network that goes fro. system to system. wormholes require gates. warp is the 'slowest' of FTL methods but the cheapest and most widely used I'd think

>>83724935
Some of it is probably at least partially built on the bones of the Azalfi empire.

>>83725001
what about the rather unimaginatively named uplifters?

>>83725115
What if that just was the Azalfi?

Their empire collapsed and they recused themselves so long ago that nobody even really remembers it was them. If they went around uplifting a bunch of species before fucking off, there might not be any reliable records of it.

>>83725302
the uplifters are described as living wire bundles on the wiki. and if I'm perfectly honest founding galactic civilization on the back of blue space elves whose social workings are inexplicable and mostly one guy's side project doesn't thrill me.

faceless precursors I can do anything with. Blue Space Amish who somehow have multiple space colonies are harder to work with.

>>83725115
No name was given to them. If the space setting ever pics up again, they'll probably get a name eventually.

Right now I think their name is like a swear word among other races. Getting the name out of someone should be a plot point.

A lot of our stuff just never gets named and we're saddled with placeholders for years on end.

>>83728292
>"So if you could just sign for this..."

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i recently read and enjoyed superman for all seasons and was really impressed by the art. personally i thought it was the most detailed and impressive art i've seen out of tim sale so far.

so anyway i figured id take a stab at drawing one of the full page panels. i've actually gone a lot further than this but the colors look kind of yucky with my limited pallet

>>83728353
Makes me think Boss Imp on the demon planes would expand services to space once he finds out about all the other things out there.

From the dark hallways of secret lairs comes the cry "ALL FOR ONE!" These are the servants of ONE!

Yes, ONE,a global organization dedicated to gaining capital and political influence. This secret society dates back generations and seeks to subvert and control allworld governments in the name of THE FIRST!

Can any hero hope to oppose their diabolical power plays?!

Whatever happened to franken-waifu/husbando threads?

>>83733810
I like the pitch, keep it coming.

>>83734004
pretty much aHYDRA/SPECTRE style group for super heroes to fight. The usual nonsense faceless goons in body suits with rayguns or generic firearms, deatrays, robots, mind control etc.

THE FIRST is whoever is in charge, with rank from then on being the Second, Third, Fourth, and so on. A mook will be "One of Many" with someone of actual rank having a number.

On topof scrapping with heroes they probably fight other secret societies and super villains too. Equal parts faceless mook factory and spy thriller material.

>>83733810
Isn't that exactly what the bad guy calls himself and does in "My Hero Academia"?

>>83734126
ALL FOR ONE/ONE FOR ALL

yeah, but the badguy has the ability to steal the powers of other people and uses it to build a criminal organization until his sidekick rebels and stops him.

no relation aside from naming conventions,

>>83734260
Alright, so where does this HYDRA/SPECTRE-like organization fit in with the big shot bad guy organizations?

Are they just the premier supplier of mooks tot he others? Are they trying to take over the bad guy market before taking over the world? How can we actually use them in a story?

Does a hero who regularly fights anons suddenly find some anons have numbers on them?

>>83734394
>the big shot bad guy organizations?
Well, to be honest, there's a real dearth of those in the /co/verse. The Sageworthy Society is unfocused and mostly exists as a joke on imageboard culture. The machine cult operates in a very specific niche. A general purpose overarching goon society is something we've needed.

>>83734394
They're an easy source of conflict. They're researching mindcontrol/salvaging a nazi deathray/building a moonbase/buyig up all the vintage plusg monster toys etc.

numbers drom 1-100 would lead cells so instead of getting splinter groups that mutate into different groups you get groups of faceless mooks doing whatever, sometimes even fighting eachother.

occasionally #1 will get copperation going and invade atlantis with 15, 30, and 7 but a lot of the time the big numbers will do their own thing.

>>83734585
And anyone could be one of these numbers?

>>83735045
pretty much. their uniform only varies in that they have identifying numbers instead of the skim tight suits and body armor that the Sums get.

>>83735150
It makes me think that villains from other groups would join, all trying to get the FIRST spot so they could use the organization to further their personal objectives.

horp

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So what's the deal with giant space monsters? What do they eat? How do stay alive in the void?

>>83735662
I imagine every number's seat in the meeting room has a death trap wired to it, SPECTRE style, for if THE FIRST discovers a conflict of interest.

>>83738366
Do they even have meetings?

Where would those take place?

>>83738543
Volcano lairs, underwater bases, pretty much any cliche bad-guy lair you can think of.

>>83738543
They gotta have meetings. It's like a ground floor requirement for those types of bad guys.

>>83738543
>>83740915
Oh, and THE FIRST needs to have some manner of fluffy adorable pet, for him to affectionately pet in the shadows as he plots our heroes' doom.

>>83740924
Mini feathered dinosaur?

>>83737921
fissionable material, radiation absorbed from stars and other sources of energy, a complex system of internal organs that produce everything needs to survive. May or may not feed off the same unobtainium that gives people superpowers

>>83743733
Sounds like they might've been artificially created.

And back to that space council of evil, there's probably someone from the black market symbiote trade on it.

>>83742093
So did that guy who said he was gonna storyboard issue 1 of BQ ever show himself again?

>>83745296
Was this the recent time someone said this, or one of the other times in the more distant past someone said this?

>>83745874
A few weeks ago. Said he was really interested in taking a crack at it.

>>83733810
This week on /co/omics! The secret of #8 revealed! Who is the man behind the mask? Can he escape from ONE's reeducation village? What diabolical plan does #2 have in store for the rebellious number?

Don't miss this tale of suspense and wonder!

>>83745983
A lot of anons have made that claim, but aside from about the 4 different people who drew the 15 pages we have, no one ever follows up on it.

>>83709310
>Wintertime
>GG has changed to her winter costume, a long-pants variation with a sweater over top (SQ is protected from the cold by her powers; possible title-panel gag here)
>GG and SQ are tracking down thieves in a shopping district who have thus far evaded all detection
>In the course of her investigation, GG's sweater gets snagged and begins to unravel without her notice
>Some store workers carrying boxes pass by and trip over the unraveling thread
>The boxes burst open, revealing all sorts of stolen goods; the thieves have been avoiding notice by disguising themselves as employees!
>SQ congratulates GG on unraveling the case
>GG looks over her ruined sweater and sighs that she unraveled more than that

>While sneaking into a gang's warehouse hideout, GG accidentally bumps something over, causing a comical chain reaction that takes out the entire gang. Silver Queen, of course, believes this was entirely on purpose.

>Audrey overhears at school that Billy is recruiting other boys, apparently for his gang
>SQ suggests Audrey disguise herself as a boy and infiltrate the gang
>Audrey goes along, but doesn't expect the plan to work for obvious reasons
>for obvious (to us) reasons, it works; none of the other recruits suspect a thing
>Billy doesn't realize that it's Audrey OR Golden Girl, but can't help but notice that "Audie" has a very pronounced chest
>the "gang" turns out to be Billy putting together his own rock band, separate from his supervillain activities
>Audrey doesn't make the band because she can't play any of the instruments, either due to her chest interfering or because she doesn't know how to play

>>83747224
ONE has no official #8, due to the rebellion of the original #8 all ONE Directors who refuse to stick to ONE's mission statement are labeled 8s.

>>83748781
So there's a metal detector like thing that all people are the meeting have to walk under, if they're against ONE then it repeats "EIGHT" over and over again.

>>83743693
Or a Yeti Crab.

>>83688793
Silver Queen and Golden Girl get involved in cosmic highjinks.
Either they get shanghai'd onto a rocket or get caught up in a Secret Wars type affair.

At some point Audrey's costume gets trashed or the aliens notice that she is struggling with 'excess mass and inertia' and they make her a bra with alien technology that cancels both gravity and inertia.
She loves it. It enables her to move as freely as before she started developing, even if it does make her chest more pronounced and buoyant.
When they get back to earth she gets to keep her new space bra, but in a gag ending it turns out that she doesn't have any way to recharge it and it becomes useless.
We end by having the cosmic brassiere sitting in their hall of trophies and Audrey reading a book on nuclear technology hoping to find a way to power the bra back up.

>>83750619
>Yeti Crab
It's real.

Nature continues to amaze me.

>>83750713
Back in the Silver Age I think there were stories about even Jimmy Olsen getting off planet whenever he wanted in a glass ball.

So anything about those two getting into space will either be some form of pseudo speculative science, or test rockets.

>>83750966
Yeah I was kind of thinking they get launched into orbit by accident while stopping a bad guy who was trying to jack a rocket or something or bad aliens come looking for Silver Queen's bracelets or something.

>>83750713
Ok, compress that into 5-6 panels.

>>83752575
Yeah, lemme see what I can do.

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>>83686509
If the Bands of Boudica are enough to turn a normal woman into Silver Queen and a trained yet still normal GG into someone with actual super powers, what would they do to someone who has a whole suite of good powers to begin with, like Bri?

>>83756001
Probably Kryptonian tier.
We never really established how strong Golden Guardian is but I figure she's like She-Hulk level at the most.

>>83756099
She-Hulk seems a bit much for GG. I imagined like someone who can pick up and throw cars and such, perhaps leap to the top of a third/fourth story building. She-Hulk can lift 100 tons, remember.

>>83756264
I was thinking Spider-Man-level strength at minimum, myself.

>>83756264
Fair enough. The main idea behind the bands working that way was to sort of play with the whole power creep of cape books, but even a small jump will do that.

>>83756437
Spider-man can still lift 40 tons. I mean if it can make a trained albiet normal human THAT strong it would make Briana like a goddess or something.

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We could probably stand to develop Golden Guardian's design a little more. It's pretty generic as is.

>>83693909
We're just constantly making her bustier aren't we?

Not that I'm complaining

>>83756773
I think Saburox reined it in on the latest one, which is good in my opinion.

>>83756806
>reined it in
Disappointing

>>83754437
that you gob? fucking amazing

>>83757528
That image is old, but yes, it was drawn by Gob.

>>83756631
Maybe if we added some black to help break things up, to start with. Right now it just looks like it could be one solid color.

>>83754437
I still don't know who that guy below Captain Stocking Arms is.

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I'm working on a little prose bit between General Freedom and Blueblood. It's slow going but it might just be done before this thread dies... if I keep it bumped.

>>83762254
Well that at least gives me a reason to bump it later then.

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Well best of luck staying up through the night thread.

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>>83756099
If GG's world is based around the golden age and thus all the super powered people are generally pretty low tier basic humans, it's possible that in that world, an artifact like the Bands of Boudica were never supposed to be used by someone overly powerful. I mean Boudica herself was just a regular human, not necessarily even all that well trained. I mean she lost in the end. The bands are for normal people. Someone like Briana puts them on and sure, she's gets a genuinely divine level of power, but neither the bands nor the person were probably meant to have that much raw power coursing through them, not even one with a pretty enhanced constitution like Briana.

>>83750713
I like it. I can't think of anyway to do it in less than 8-9 panels though.

>>83756264
Meh who can't lift 100 tons in Marvel? Power creep is one of the cancers in long running comics.

Its not like writers can even conceptualize what it really means, saying 100 tons is just an easy brainbug of a label to throw out, like 'peak human' which is applied to basically almost every hero that doesn't actually have powers.

>>83764866
The bands provide a proportionate boost based on the wearer's normal strength level, so a normal woman like SQ gets boosted to low-end superhuman levels, while someone who's been training their whole life like adult Audrey gets a much greater boost.

I always saw Audrey coming of age and becoming Golden Guardian as happening during the Silver Age, so it sort of reflects the general power creep between the two ages.

>>83766607
Never really had that notion of time really advancing like that in-continuity for GG myself. Figured that she would always be a Golden Age hero, and that the sort of themes and overall timbre of her setting would remain more or less constant.

>>83767660
The idea has always been that silver age logic kicks in when Golden Girl becomes Golden Guardian.

It's just that's not where any of the story/gags takes place during, so it's not something that gets brought up.

>>83765738
Could try to write it as a series of strips.

>>83768489
>The idea has always been that silver age logic kicks in when Golden Girl becomes Golden Guardian

I don't remember this being discussed anywhere.

>>83768516
Really? I remember it being a plot point when >>83756631 was drawn.

Maybe you just weren't there for it. A lot of the early GG threads were lost in the archive gap.

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>>83769700

>>83756631
I'd suggest more gadgetry, like a utility belt or something. Maybe a sash?

>>83771537
What's her "Nightwing" phase like before she gets the bracers?

>>83768489
>>83768640
>>83768640
>The idea has always been that silver age logic kicks in when Golden Girl becomes Golden Guardian.

Except early on in those discussions people kept confusing the various comic book ages. Probably because of the names or something.

Silver Queen is a Golden Age character. Looking at it from an outside perspective, her "book" would've been most popular from the 30s to the early 50s. She's one of those characters that would've been used as WW2 propognda, which is why her rogue's gallery includes a Yellow Peril sorceress and a Nazi scientist.

Audrey, as Golden Girl, is a character at the dawn of the Silver Age, from the mid 1950s to 60s. That's why she's a product of the Code, why one of her enemies is derived from Rockabilly fashion, why she herself wears poodle skirts, etc. Its why she can go up against weirder things like dinosaurs or yetis.

Audrey as Golden Guardian then, would be at least a decade down the line after that in the late 60s or even 70s. That's the tail end of the Silver Age and the start of the *Bronze Age*. This is intentional because by then the code has effectively been done away with as publishers started doing stories about drug use and racism and stuff. So it's a good mirror for Audrey coming into her own and accepting her body as an adult.

>>83772731
Would there ever be a plot about her beating the code and that's what finally allows her to grow up?

>>83774122
I'm not sure if she's actually aware of the Code's existence, or if it's even possible to perceive it in-universe. She knows no one notices her chest, but she doesn't know why.

>>83775437
I mean, if the comic ever had an actual plot, that feels like it would be the end game plot.

>>83775702
For some reason, I imagined the Code attaining sentience and returning in the 80s as Audrey's personal Anti-Monitor.

>>83777537
That seems a bit meta for a golden or silver age story. Those never really got that Grant Morrison. Remember, she's a comic-within-a-comic.

>>83778682
I know, I was just saying. I'm sure >>83774122 meant something more metaphorical than the Code becoming a tangible enemy for Audrey to beat.

>>83777537
Not sure how that would work.

>>83778886
I'm not even sure I know how GG would become aware of, much less fight the code.

It wouldn't be called comics code though, it'd be something else, like some kind of brain wave being projected on the whole Earth by something.

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>>83771483

>>83774122
>>83775702
>>83778682
>>83778682
>>83778886
>>83780089
For what it's worth Pratchett had a group of eldritch abominations called the Auditors of Reality that could conceivably be adapted into some kind of code enforcers.

Having said that it's probably a little too DEEPEST LORE for a gag strip. At best you'd want to have a time travel strip where Golden Guardian drops hints about it rather than a full on Crisis event.

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why are symbiotes so lewd?

>>83783383
Because they cover every inch and fill in every nook and cranny of their hosts.

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>>83783383
this guy has a similar symbiote to kamrya

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who would be a good match vs tantrum?

>>83783858
Another adaptable one?

>>83783982
Well he's already fought Blueblood, so who's next?

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>>83784382
idk, i've always been found of having him fight one of the demon kings, just as a kind of bizarro weird match, but I think they have the edge with demon magic.

maybe a pure brawl between tantrum and the red demon king.

>>83784525
Red Demon King is kind of brain dead, and Boss Imp wouldn't be a very good match up when he finally gets the throne since he'll probably remain small.

Maybe another monster like Aorta, the Horrible Hodag, or one of the big ones from Monster Alley would be a more even match up.

>>83782886
>At best you'd want to have a time travel strip where Golden Guardian drops hints about it rather than a full on Crisis event.
Call it the Code War so that young Audrey thinks she's referring to the Cold War.

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The year was 1992. The United States was fully in the grip of what pundits had dubbed "X-treme Fever."
After what seemed to the Justice Coalition like an eternity of nonstop damage control to contain the conflicts created by the
sudden wave of powerful and chaotic new anti-heroes and unstable villains, a sudden hush had fallen over the nation.


Maybe the newcomers had seen the error of their destructive ways. Maybe they had retreated to lick their wounds.
Or maybe someone had thrown a pizza party on the moon and they merely relocated their orgy of destruction to some unfortunate lunar
mare. Whatever the reason, the nation's heroes had been given an unexpected reprieve, and as a result General Freedom had found a
rare day in his schedule free enough of battles, meetings and natural disasters for him to eat his lunch in the Lighthouse
mess hall with the rest of the Justice Coalition rank and file.

Recruiting had been slow since the onset of the Fever- it seemed all the new players in the world of capes lately were either
too violent or too volatile to play ball with the Coalition, and all too frequently they were both. Still, as he detached from
the lunch line with his tray in hand, he spotted one of the few recent recruits alone at a table. She was a tall, lithe young
woman with a blue-grey cast to her skin, her body etched with elaborate tattoos. She was delicately tending to a very rare cut of
steak and a tall glass of what he chose to assume was tomato juice.
The General smiled - though he'd been present at her induction and on a mission or two, he hadn't had a chance to talk to her
one on one. It'd be nice to chat with one of these new heroes and maybe puzzle out what made their generation tick.

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>>83785562
He called her file to mind as he weaved through the tables; supposedly she was a vampire from some hidden village somewhere in or around
eastern Germany, cursed with demon blood that gave her the power to forge weapons out of thin air.
Though her powers were on par with her chaotic contemporaries, their nature required her to maintain a tight grip
on her emotions, lest her inner demon break loose. Her iron-clad focus made her a better team player than others
of the decade, but it also created a barrier between her and her allies, making her seem frosty and unapproachable.

Well, trust would always be key to any team, and it was the General's professed opinion that nothing broke down barriers
between comrades quite like having to messily eat lunch together. He marched up to her table and beamed a winning smile.
"Mind if I joined you, miss?"
Blueblood gestured noncommittally with her fork at the other side of the table, never raising her eyes from her meal.
"If you wish."
Unfazed, the General took his seat opposite her, setting down his tray. "Thank you kindly."
Truth be told, he was looking forward to the food as much as the conversation; the Lighthouse staff made a mean cheeseburger, and while their apple pie wasn't quite
Grandma Doe's it wasn't a bad second in her absence. By his estimation it had been at least a week since he'd managed to get a solid meal in.
Still, if you're going to do something, he reckoned, you might as well do it right. The General bowed his head to recite a quick prayer.
"Come Lord Jesus be our guest, and let these gifts to us be blessed.
And may there be a goodly share, on every table everywhere. Amen."
As he returned his attention to the meal before him, he noticed his companion across the table had looked up.
Indeed, she seemed to be wearing the faintest trace of a smirk.

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>>83785640
The General smiled himself. "Ah, maybe you've heard that one before? I understand Martin Luther is
still somewhat popular in your neck of the woods, unless my information is older than I am."
The woman gave a perfunctory shake of her head, and he thought he saw a hint of a blue-shaded flush in her cheeks, as if having her feelings observed was a source of embarrassment.
"No, it is nothing." she demurred. "Only a curiosity of the culture that raised me."
The General's smile widened. "Now you can't say something like that and expect me to be less curious! I don't know
diddly about your people, and I've been from the beaches to Berlin and back. You folks keep a low profile."
"My kin do not mingle. They regard themselves as... above." Blueblood paused for the breadth of a second, then shrugged.
"Simply, I am not overly familiar with the, ah, faiths of the common men. "
The General chuckled. "Nosferatu don't think much of grace, eh? What do your folks believe in, then?"
She eyed General Freedom as she swirled her glass gently. "Themselves, mostly." She raised her free hand, and from a tattoo on her palm
a small ball of swirling blue liquid rose. It roiled once, violently, then took the rough shape of a cowering man, clutching a crucifix before a teeming mass of
disconcerting forms.
"In their kingdoms, my clansmen cannot be challenged except by others of our kind. They regard faith in greater powers as a... platitude to comfort those who are not already the greatest."
The General squinted- on close inspection, the nightmare shapes were faces, monstrously twisted but recognizably humanoid.
They appeared to be laughing.

General Freedom frowned as Blueblood gracefully closed her hand and returned her macabre construct to whence it came.
She reclaimed her fork and demurely lowered her eyes to her meal, evidently satisfied her point had been made.
This was not going at all how he had expected.

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>>83785671
"Well," he chuckled, attempting to lighten the tone, "it certainly sounds like there's no crisis of self-confidence where
you come from."
"None among the ruling class, no."
For a moment, both focused on their food. The General considered strategy for his next sally between bites of his burger.
"What about you, then?"
"Pardon?"
"You've told me what your relatives think of faith. What do you think, personally?"
She shrugged, intent on her meal.
"I have a traveling companion from among the peasantry who puts great stock in saints and sigils and holy words. Myself, I
have not felt the need for such things. My faith is in the strength of my arms and the swiftness of my wits, and where I find myself lacking I strive to improve. I grapple daily with a supposed 'greater power' and have not yet found my will lacking."
The hint of a smirk returned, and now Blueblood did glance up. "I do wonder..." She trailed off, seeming to hesitate- not from embarrassment, it seemed, but from propriety.
General Freedom nodded encouragingly. "I've already badgered you plenty, it's only fair you ask me what's on your mind."
"You are regarded in the wider world as perhaps the world's greatest warrior, yes? Earth's mightiest mortal?"
The General chuckled. "There's a laundry list of folks who'd disagree, but some might say so. Why do you ask?"
She nodded, as if this made perfect sense. "I find myself curious- what need have you to fear?"
He sighed. More and more this seemed to be something newcomers would ask. "There's plenty in this world to fear, Blueblood, no matter how strong you are. Every time a bomb goes off
on the other side of the planet I'm reminded of that fact."

Blueblood's brow furrowed slightly. "I have misspoken. I am still not entirely familiar with your language. What I mean to say-
what need have you to put your faith in something greater than yourself? You are the strongest."

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>>83785710

General Freedom paused, stroking his moustache as he mulled over his answer.
When he spoke, it was slowly, as if he was still considering his words. "I think... honestly, it's something of a relief to know you're answerable to someone bigger than yourself. Being the top dog can be more of a burden than you might think."
A small, devilish smile blossomed on Blueblood's lips, and she locked eyes with the General. Her gaze was disturbingly intense.
"Perhaps someday we will have the chance to test one another without restraint, and I may relieve you of that burden."
There was a moment of silence. When General Freedom spoke, his voice was weary.
"For all our sakes, I hope not.”

Damn shame 4chan eats formatting, this is a mess to read.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c4jgp0lvq5gguke/blueblood%20and%20general%20freedom.odt?dl=0

>>83785837
Nice bit of character interaction.

I've run into that formatting problem before.

We could always put it on the wiki too.

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>>83785710
Did we ever give him a name?

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>>83786217
Usually when I have ideas like this I tuck them away for later use in the comic proper, but this one was so obviously never going to find an excuse to slot into Ladybug's story that I just decided to write it out. Normally I'd just let it go, but I thought it was a nice way to contrast the values of different generations, so here we are. Plus it was an excuse to write about burgers. Seems to have kind of killed the thread, though.

>>83787370
Don't think we did.

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>>83756631
>>83758992
>>83768640
Despite the fact that I am going to sleep, start of redesign with an added belt.

>>83772506
I always figured Golden Guardian was the analogous Nightwing phase
but now that you mention it, that's really more like DickBats. If we go by what Grayson did then you have her wearing her Golden Girl costume well past its expiration date, then a weird popped collar sixties sixties thing for a while. Maybe the pennicandies version or a variation of that would work for that?

>>83788565
Dig it. Maybe it's because she's in an action pose, but shouldn't hips be a bit bigger to match her chest? Since there was the whole goof about her future-self's body catching up with all that tittie-meat.

>>83788565
>pennicandies version
Penni has never really been one for character design, imo, and there were a lot of clashing element on his outfit. People even tried to tell him nicely, but dude just went on and caught feelings over it. But yeah, it's not like there weren't bits and pieces that were good.

>>83788565
Maybe not a popped collar specifically, but some sort of similarly just-out-of-date fashion choice that evokes memories of the Discowing costume.

It always suprises me how these threads make it this far into the week.

>tfw I'm told I have good concepts but I can't draw or go more into detail with them

>>83792120
How do you know they're good?

>>83787619
The thread was just hanging on before you posted it too.

How well did the Youth Coalition fair during the extreme age?

>>83720609
Now that I think about it The Thing That Happened is pretty much just The Collapse, isn't it?

i miss Supermoms. there were good ideas beneath the fetish shit.

>>83795307
Well dig up the scripts and start trying to bring it back then.

It's major problem was it had scripts and no one willing to draw more than just cheesecake pinups.

Try to get someone to draw one page of a script, then try to get someone else to draw another page of the script. It'll end up looking a little weird if that works, but at least then there will be something.

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>>83796746

>>83693522
>Eisernes Kreuz, the Iron Cross
Im interested, Anon.

Tell me more.

>>83796746
>>83796766
Closer and closer.

Who will get done first?
Gob with Lovely Ladybug issue 5
or
Magi with Lovely Ladybug Summer Special

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>>83788565
>>83788642
Some minor tweaks, color, and a tentative neckline. Most imporrtantly, wider hips, thicker thighs and a little more height. Fully grown Audrey is now a flat out amazon.

>>83797868
Maybe they'll be finished at the same time, and we'll just have back-to-back Ladybug stories. The Summer Special is looking pretty good so far.

>>83799048
Neat.

>>83799109
We can dream.

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Speaking of Gob and Ladybug...

>>83788461
Bump so I can get an outline for issue 3 posted later tonight.

>>83802879
Oh, you're doing that?

I did that outline for issue 2 a few threads ago.

>>83803653
I'm working right now but I'll try to get just something together tonight.

>>83804940
Bump for you then.

We should probably collect those outlines somewhere.

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>>83794622
It was a dangerous time! I imagine the JC did their best to "book" the Youth for battles with silver age villains who were known quantities. Maybe against young villain teams too, something on the order of the Mean Teens.

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>>83784525
Have him fight Dead Lift in the ring for honor.

>>83796897
Wilhelm Oda, Half German, Half Japanese, subject to experiments by imperial japanese/nazi german hold outs during the 50s. Rescued and kept alive by his Aunt a talented, if overlooked Biochemist who used notes stolen from the scientists who experimented on him and similar children.

Grew up among disgraced scientists, mutant freaks, and other people who didn;t fit the narrative their countries were pushing during the coldwar. Proved to be extremely intelligent at a young age and managed to get ahold of things like designs for The Ascendent Sun's (an Imperial Japanese War Hero/Criminal depending on who you ask) Gauntlets, Der Panzerman (Think Ironman Mk1 put into limited production by nazi germany) and so on.

He created a suit of armor and various gadgets to fight to make the world a better place. He knows a lot old WW2 era super villains and which ones are still evil and trying to carry out their plans and which ones are trying to atone.

Runs a small but wealthy consulting firm that helps NATO militaries adapt super science into practical devices.

Basically Iron Man by way of Nick Fury with a biracial european twist.

Main enemies are groups like ONE, a SPECTRE style evil group but he does face off against villains, and maybe other heroes as well if they know more than a few of his mentors are actually former super villains.

>>83807645
Wonder how he'd get on with General Freedom.

>>83807645
>Runs a small but wealthy consulting firm that helps NATO militaries adapt super science into practical devices.
Ah so he's a supervillain

>>83807360
What were young villains like during the EXTREME age?

>>83807824
unsure, throw out the Plebian's sale pitch for me. Iron Cross is a 60s-70s era character for spy thrillers with a scifi bent via his armor, energy gauntlets, eventual Helicarrier and so on.

>>83807879
Kind of, his armor is modeled on guys like Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man. He's definetly out to make the world a better place but he does it by paperclipping supervillain tech and getting applied supertech into the hands of national militaries and the consumer market. (the safer stuff obviously, not seeing much use for heatrays in consumer electronics. But heat ray's battery probably has a lot of uses once you reverse engineer it.)

>>83808204
Most of the anti-heroes of the EXTREME age were born in decades previous. For whatever reason, people born DURING that age didn't seem to get the EXTREME power levels, but many of them did idolize the lone wolf hyperviolent behavior of Bloodpouch and his contemporaries, which led to a good deal of hooliganery. That kind of behavior obviously leads to run-ins with the law, which in some cases pushes kids already on the moral razor's edge into villainy.

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>>83808534
The 80s were weird.

Most of the EXTREME villains of the age must've been born during the 60s or 70s, a time where who knows what was getting into the water.

>>83765891
peak human should lift like 1 ton, MAYBE a half ton.

100+ tons is like hulk/thor tier strength

>>83756631
i wonder what her day job would be as golden guardian

>>83809854
Reporter perhaps

>>83809131
Back then radiation gave you powers, man.

>>83809937
heh, a lois lane with GGG tits and no one making the connection at all to the super heroine with GGG tits

its the silly stuff like that i love

>>83809854
Exotic escort.

>>83809937
>>83810082
Yeah it's gotta be reporter or something newspaper related. Go full Clark Kent with it and have her be a towering busty amazon that nobody can figure is the Golden Guardian all because of a pair of glasses.

>>83810082
>>83810169
Yeah it was basically a Superman reference, plus it seemed to fit well with her personality

>>83810169
>>83810238

no, it'd be like a hair tie or something
she wears her hair different and no one puts 2 and 2 together

>>83810335
She already does that as a teenager though.

>>83809937
Sarah Sterling technically adopted Audrey Page, so wouldn't that make her like a rich heiress?

She might own the company.

>>83810547
That's true of the Robins as well but they tend to get their own jobs (the few that survive to adulthood anyway) in order to exert their independence. Audrey would have the family fortune to fall back on but wouldn't use it except philanthropically or to fund team satellite bases.

>>83810784
Well we don't have to stick to the Robin formula since Silver Queen never had more than one protege.

>>83811992
I was just saying. I think that a superhero work ethic would be the main motivator as to why she'd go and get herself a job.

Having said that she could live off her inheritance and be a full time superhero as well, I guess.

>>83813359
The original Earth-2 Huntress (Batman and Catwoman's daughter) worked as a lawyer.

>>83813652
She's already built like She Hulk. It might be a bit much to give her the same job.
We should finish her costume design either way though.

>>83813767
Well, I didn't mean make her a lawyer, just that there's further precedent for superhero heiresses going out and getting jobs.

I like her being a reporter, myself. Maybe even make her a TV reporter, putting her face (and chest) out there in millions of homes, making it all the more ridiculous that no one can tell she's Golden Guardian.

>>83813904
>Maybe even make her a TV reporter,
>I am now picturing Audrey dressed in April O'Neil's jumpsuit.
I second your proposal.

>>83799048
WOOF.

>>83813904
>>83813978
Not only that, if going for TMNT/70s Batman for inspiration, you can go for an expy of the Foot clan/League of Shadows trying to recruit her as an antagonistic force. Jade Empress already fits the bill for a Ras/Shredder figure who could focus on trying to recruit her for their cause.

This week in /co/mics Wilhelm Oda may have infiltrated the Shadow Shogunate but his adventure has just begun! Who is the STEEL SAMURAI?! Can the IRON CROSS's sunburst blade damage this high tech Oyoroi Exosuit?! Who is the Shadow Shogun?! Why are they kidnapping latent metas?! Can the Iron Cross save the day or will he be yet another victim of Dark Diamyo?!

>>83808450
http://the-conservatory.wikia.com/wiki/General_Freedom

Basically he's a vintage patriotic Golden Age hero in the mold of Superman or Captain America who's survived into the modern age. Standard flying brick setup, sonic scream, firecracker energy blasts. Heads up the Justice Coalition, still very active, often in a diplomatic or administrative role as well as typical heroics.

>>83813026
Are they sagging?

>>83804940
And another bump for you. Best odds I can give the thread for making it through the night.

>>83816313
He'd probably clash with General Freedom and a lot of other heroes on more than one occasion. Iron Cross very much believes in the concept of 'Necessary Evil; which will likely put him at odds with more traditional hero types.

That said General Freedom is a WW2 veteran and may very well have participated in the rescue of the children that were being experimented on Die höchsten Willen's scientists in the hopes of producing super soldiers.

Iron Cross works with The Shadow Trust, a covert ops group dedicated to keeping the Cold War cold, by any means necessary. Unsurprisingly both sides view the Shadow Trust as international terrorists when they're more a freelance globalist covert ops group who maintain cells of operatives and shadow agents who can do whatever is required to keep nukes in their silos.

>>83807645
>>83808450
>>83815018
>>83816570
wow this is boring

>>83817428
Well it certainly doesn't have enough tits to keep the attention of the modern /coc/kfag it seems, but I like it.

>>83816570
A WW2 vet would probably look dimly on a fellow calling himself "Iron Cross" as well.

>>83817759
That too, plus the paper clipped fascist science. Presumably he'd be mistaken for someone with less than virtuous nationalist endeavours. But he's german and wants to take some pride in that, he's also japanese but I'm leaning towards a Division 731 based super villain group as one of his primary antagonists.

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>>83802879
>>83803653
Issue 3:
-Introduce Cassandra and Seymour
-Introduce The Pit
-Flesh out C&L's characters, as well as Briana

Briana and C&L have left Los Lesbos, and make their way to The Pit. During their journey, Briana asks about C&L's history, and a short narrated flashback describes their relationship, will also be our first real introduction to the Resistance in the form of Laura. After a short traveling montage, they arrive in the city (bit of a hangup here, should they get a place to stay in the city first? They'd have money, since C&L were business owners. Also is Bri totally loaded since she does bounty work but doesn't appear to spend it on anything except maybe food and ammo?). After a brief discussion, Briana says she's going to the bounty station to look for ajob, and C&L follow her to get to know the city. At the bounty office, Briana is robbed of her wallet (or some other sort of purse/money holder) by Cassandra. After a chase scene, Cassandra gets away, but not before dragging Seymour into the fray, who is then captured by the trio before he can follow her. They shake him down and with his help, they find out where she fleeces most of the things she steals. Arriving there, she is under attack by a group of Strongarm thugs, and she is saved by the gang. Apologizing profusely in light of Briana's great abilities, she offers them a detailed map of the area free of charge (showcasing her other trade, cartography). After the whole mess the trio and Cass/Seymour part ways, and C&L agree to work with Briana, with all the recent excitement making them feel like settling down again would be too boring. End of issue they accept a contract to hunt down Arthur, who is (unknown to them) being framed in a case of mistaken identity.

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>tfw nobody remember Mexi/co/lette

>>83818127
So that's the reason C&L stick around.

>>83817679
>>83817884
Nah, it's pretty bad, too. No matter the time you're posting it. It's like you're taking something that's already been done better, and you made it boring, and since you're really hung up on it, it comes out even more shitty.

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Bump to get some feedback on this >>83818127
, think I covered most of the bases coming off issue 2 and leading into 4.

>>83819064
>>83819052
>have_to_go_back.jpg

>>83824500
ok

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>>83795229
Erin is pretty much just April in DF as well.

Minus the great story line and character development.

>>83824637
Well it'd be more of a bounty on whoever is targeting the girls and not Arthur in particular.

>>83825301
I don't know much about that character's personality, but there's really only a passing resemblance in design.

>>83827976
>passing resemblance

Make her blue and throw on some trashy clothes and it literally looks just like her

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>>83828387
Since when was Erin blue and trashy?

She was just pale.

>>83828387
>Make her blue

What?

>>83828585
>>83828887
Which one is the blue one? But the argument still stands, the look is almost identical.

>>83829239
>Which one is the blue one?
Inva?

>>83829562
I feel like whatever characterization I try to give her will be ignored and she'll be treated like another gun muscle chick character.

Probably because none of the characterization is ever carried over to the pics.

>>83810082
Audrey is at least like, a K cup, perhaps even bigger

>>83833332
Now perhaps, but with a bigger ribcage wouldn't the letter shrink?

>>83833517
The letter is the difference between the over-bust measurement and the band size/ribcage measurement(the number). So, uh, I wouldn't think so.

Of course I'm a pervert, not a girl, so take it with a grain of salt

>>83833517
Yes it definitely would, since if her breasts don't get bigger, but her ribcage/frame does, then its fewer inches difference between the under and over bust. So she'd have a different, lower letter (but her breasts would still be just as big).

t. girl

>>83824500
Okay Mr. Big Comic Book Critic. Prove it. Let's see some citations.

Page 10 save.

>>83839193
the hero /co/ needs

>>83839193
Why? It's Friday here now, do you just want to keep using this thread into next week?

>>83839457
ow many posts are we away from autosage anyway?

>>83839679
213.

>>83839705
should be fine for the weekend then

>>83839772
If you want to keep using this thread that's fine with me, but you'll have to keep it up since threads on /co/ seem to sink to page 10 in less than two hours right now.

>>83830131
I always assumed she was just a badass nerd, considering her origin is her reading lots of old (banned) books.

>>83799048
Lookin' good!

Are there any heavy hitters for the bad guys?

>>83842458
Classical nerds were pretty /fit/.

Remember that a lot of Plato's dialogues take place inside a gym.

>>83842714
Tantrum? He's basically the Hulk.

>>83842714
Punchclock

think Juggernaut but utterly mercenary. Invulnerable, Unstoppable, and charges 5k per second he's on the clock.

>>83842714
Rock of Rock Paper Scissors is presumably pretty heavy.

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In the absence of further instruction I went ahead and threw on some colors and the other details. It kind of ends up being like if Donna Troy were in the X-men though. If you guys have other design ideas let me know and I'll go back to the drawing board since as it is this design is kinda lazy.

>>83844434
I think that might be too much black. Gold should still be the dominant color. And I still like her logo from >>83756631. Would incorporating into her costume as well as on her belt buckle be redundant?

>>83844434
>>83844705
Too much of an X-men costume.

>>83844434
Hey it's Wolverine.

>>83844434
Maybe she should have a head piece like SQ.

I feel as if her adult costume would have more throwbacks to SQ's costume.

>>83844434
This looks fantastic, but the costume does seem a bit simple and very X-Men-ish. I think you should try to rework it a bit to seem a little more silver age, maybe? Or at least early bronze age.

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>>83844424

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>>83844705
>>83844790
>>83845997
>>83848419
>>83848427
Like I said I'm aware it looks like an x-men costume. I tried a few variations but they ended up making her look like Luke Cage, Sentry, and Waso in varying degrees (which leads me to realize Marvel does a lot of yellow costumes).

If you guys are fond of that more throwbacks to SQ's costume I I can go for that. I'm didn't do so because I wasn't sure it fit her new identity but I'll let you guys talk it out.

Truth be told I'm not entirely sure what would go into making it look like an early bronze age costume so like I said I'm open to ideas. changing the neckline and colors is pretty easy at this juncture so I can try doing a few different iterations.

Or if you want, just MS-Paint over this one and I'll refine whatever you guys come up with.

>>83850614
Well the bracers are SQ's right? So those would still be silver.

She'd probably have the GG emblem on her utility belt.

Instead of black on gold, maybe silver on gold?

Just tossing around ideas since it seems like we're going to keep using this thread.

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>>83850717
>Well the bracers are SQ's right? So those would still be silver.
They're magic so they can be any color. Or they could just be painted.
Silver and gold is probably what ended up making her look like a Luke Cage cosplay.

>>83850614
So she's "Golden Guardian", right?
Maybe play up the Guardian. Incorporate a shield-like emblem, or maybe some armor.

>>83851002
I was wondering if we shouldn't change her name to something else, Bullion maybe? It's an ingot of precious metal, so it seems suitable for a flying brick with a gold color scheme.

>>83852338
Maybe Bullion could be the name of her Nightwing phase? Golden Girl -> Bullion -> Golden Guardian?

>>83850949
Why does he have an upside-down tiara?

>>83850614
I don't think a cape suits her, but some vintage nonsenseblike silk shirts, tiaras and so on could be neat.

try giving her a coat?

>>83854078
It was the 70s

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Okay, added a G shield emblem like >>83851002 suggested and more silver like >>83850717 said. Also cranked up the gold to make it the dominant color as >>83844705 brought up.

I think it looks a little too Sentry now but better that then X-men.

>>83855312
Maybe some kind of armor in places? Would that make her look too Wonder Woman?

>>83855312
not bad, maybe give her a trenchcoat?

>>83854666
>>83856478
Coats over spandex are about a decade too late, aren't they?

>>83855312
I feel like a sleeve-less look would finally balance out that x-men/sentry look.

>>83855312
tiny head

>>83856989
huge body.

>>83856865
Yeah, I think either a short-sleeved or sleeveless look would help.

>>83856706
I could probably see her wearing a bomber jacket in the 90s like Rogue.

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>>83856865
>>83858189
I think you guys are right. It's evocative of her sidekick costume while still looking grown up. And then in the 90s reboot they add a jacket like >>83856478 and >>83858189
were saying

>>83859220
Oh yeah, that looks great!

>>83859220
Do you think she'd benefit from having a mask of some kind to go with her adult costume?

>>83859789
A few posts up we were talking about her doing the Clark Kent thing. Just glasses and maybe her hair in a bun and instant sexy librarian secret identity.

>>83859926
She wore a mask when she was still Golden Girl, so it might be nice if she wore a mask as Golden Guardian.

I don't think she'd start wearing glasses unless she actually needed them since was already don't the mask thing for her secret identity and that worked out well enough so far.

>>83861177
Would it be the same sort of mask she wore as Golden Girl, or would she change up the style?

>>83862531
Maybe have it be fancier? Possibly with some of it functioning like a helmet?

Also, at this point it'd be easier just to keep this thread going than for me to make a new one 12 hours from now.

>>83859220
I think you found the sweet spot. Maybe try giving her a Kyle Raynor style mask that transforms from a hair beret?

>>83863242
I second this, since a Kyle Raynor mask actually sounds pretty cool.

>>83863923
Would the mask have lenses or be open like her original mask?

>>83863080
Yes, it would be easier if this thread were to just stay up. So bump.

>>83859220
You know how she rides sidecar to SQ as Golden Girl? Well when she's Guardian, does she have a vehicle or does she just super jump places?

Maybe if she still rides she has some kind of helmet or face visor?

>>83864983
If the effect you're going for is a slightly edgy phase before she takes her mentor's mantle, then white lens.

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Version with a domino mask.
Remember that this is supposed to be a 60-70s design aesthetic rather than 90s so stuff like the Kyle Rayner mask is a little too advanced.

>>83866527
Looks good, but at the same time, too stuck on her old side-kick self. Maybe go full Kyle Rayner, and make the mask cover more face?

>>83866562
Like a half-Char mask?

>>83866527

I like this a lot.

>>83866696
yeah, half mask, covers the nose, forehead, maybe her cheek bones. I'd make it silver with gold highlights personally. I am however, not an artist.