Why do people act like Steven Universe is the first show of its kind?

>>83683850
What other shows are feminist-approven?

What "kind" is that? I look at this and all I see is a shitty cartoon that relates to todays trends in an attempt to be hip, like every generation has

>>83683874
Jessica Jones

>>83683889
I've seen people on here saying things like "Steven Universe is the first show CN made that is structured like this" or "Steven Universe is the first time CN dealt with a plot heavy show"

Why do people act like they wouldn't cum inside Pearl's nose?

>>83683946
>>>/trash/sug/

>>83683874
Legend of Korra?

It's the only show I know of with plenty of mystery that gets slowly uncovered as the plot chugs along.
When it starts you don't even know gems are aliens.
Then you don't know why they are here.
Then it's revealed what their society looks like.
Then you get to see their leader etc.

The runtime of the whole show is longer than the Star Wars original trilogy at this point, and we STILL don't know why the main character even exists/why Rose Quartz sacrificed herself.

Tell me of another show that keeps you in the dark as much as this one, if you know of it. I'm genuinely interested in this way of telling stories.

>>83683850
its the first of its kind that has all the elements in it and the 1st that many people see those elements

>>83683981
>Tell me of another show that keeps you in the dark as much as this one, if you know of it. I'm genuinely interested in this way of telling stories.
People are going to tell you "Gravity Falls" but most of the "mysteries" weren't even touched on and there was pretty much nothing interesting after finding out who the book author was.

You're not going to get a "skeleton key" situation in Steven Universe.

>>83683850
You mean there are OTHER lesbian space rock shows out there?

>>83683981
Why would comparing it to the run time of a movie mean anything?

Thats only 17 episodes. And SU's format involves a fair amount of filler.

>>83684096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6G_o1MYECg

>>83683850
Literally name one other show about a half-human half-gem magical boy with a trio of hot alien caretakers, one of whom is actually two smaller aliens

>>83684046
Yes, Gravity Falls was a bit of a disappointment for me.

>"What are all of these weird things?"
The answer is literally: Anomalies. The weird things are weird things.

>What's the main villain's mysterious plan?
His plan is to be villainous. He comes, and then he acts evil. His motivation is that he is evil and likes suffering.

>What is the deal with the lost twin brother?
He has brotherly feelings towards his twin, because he's a twin brother.
Also he was lost for a long time in UNSPECIFIED PLACE doing UNSPECIFIED THINGS. The lost brother's deal is that he was lost and that he is, deep down, still Stan's brother.

>>83683981
Avatar.
RWBY.
Not a show, but the first (good) half of Homestuck.

because sjws didnt actually watch old cartoons, they just like to say they did

The concept of fusion was pretty half ass in the original dbz, it's nice to see a show take a Cool concept and show its full potential. Also western animation hasnt built up a story like this before

>>83683981
The Secret Saturdays

>>83684530
>western animation hasnt built up a story like this before

t. Someone born in 1998

>>83684129
SU doesn't actually have that much filler, though. Most of the Beach City stuff contributes to Steven's character development.

>>83684617
This. Sadie's Song was building up to him becoming trans

>>83684617
I dunno, a fair amount of the episodes I watched seemed pretty fillerish. They may have sprinkled in a tiny amount of "lore" here and there just to make it worth it. Remove those parts and Its just like watching adventure time.

>>83684713
If you haven't watched every episode up to this point, you cannot say what is and isn't filler.
That's just facts.

>>83684595
Are you not posting examples because you're lying or rather because you're slow and don't fully understand how conversation works?

>>83684777
k

>>83684658
Seriously though Sadie's Song was about how Steven's optimism can unintentionally turn into selfishly going too far which is something Steven has done before.

Why does reading this thread remind me of MLP threads.

>>83684838
Because both fans like to make the same argument that their shows are one of a kind.

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>>83683850
Jesus /co/, why can't I just like a show/thread

>>83684780
No I'm just astonished your knowledge of western animation stops on Post-90s CN

>>83685154
Because you dont like it, you obsess over it.

>>83685154
Nobody is saying he you can't you dumb fuck

I don't like Steven Universe. The artstyle just turns me off. I was all prepared to live and let live, but Steven Universe's fanbase is seriously a cancer on par with My Little Brony and Homestuck

Usually when your fanbase is that fucking shit, there's something disingenious going on with the writing of your show

Either you go for cheap melodrama, or you "signal" to internet weirdos that you support their bullshit. In any case, nothing would make me happier than to see the show's cancellation. Less ugly fat fucks crying, more Voltron

>>83685222
>I don't know anything but I saw some people on the internet who pissed me off and now it's personal. More shows from my childhood!!!

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>>83684219

This is such a retarded and biased analysis when you put it in the exact same breath praising SU for its "mystery" though. Everything you said can be bent to still be strongly rooted in truth just the same.

To be honest I barely even understand what "mystery" you're talking about. This is an extremely normal groundwork for plots that reveal more as the story goes on.

If this is your standard for a good story then I'd hate to see you embarrass yourself saying RWBY or Kingdom Hearts have good storytelling.

Action cartoons have been dead since those DC Nation shows were cancelled, and SU is the closest thing to an action cartoon with an overarching story that is currently airing.

>>83685290
>This is such a retarded and biased analysis
Nothing he said was wrong. The weird stuff is literally called "weird stuff" that's from the weird dimension. The villain's origin is, "I came from a flat dimension and uh uh uh I destroyed it" and his motivation is just that he wants to do whatever he wants which is ~EVIL~.

>>83685312

I know none of these are currently airing, but Miraculous Ladybug finished its first season real recently, Wakfu is still ongoing, and we have the Dofus movie subs to look forward to. Dofus I know isn't really action but the trailers seem to imply there would be a fair amount for hte movie.

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>>83685290
>If this is your standard for a good story then I'd hate to see you embarrass yourself saying RWBY or Kingdom Hearts have good storytelling.

Kingdom Hearts does have good storytelling

>>83685325

>Nothing he said was wrong

Yeah it's almost as if I said exactly the same thing in the second sentence of the post, Sherlock.

>>83683981
>The runtime of the whole show is longer than the Star Wars original trilogy at this point, and we STILL don't know why the main character even exists/why Rose Quartz sacrificed herself.

So it has a bunch of filler.

>Tell me of another show that keeps you in the dark as much as this one, if you know of it. I'm genuinely interested in this way of telling stories.

Lost.

>>83685312
Why watch shit just because it's the closest thing currently airing when you can watch pretty much anything that has ever been aired thanks to the internet

I don't like x. x upsets me. Also, x is popular on y, so there's that.

>>83683850
Because we're young.

>>83685352

If your reasoning is exactly because of "they add more to the plot as they go along" then let me be the first to stop you and call you an immense retard.

Judging executive quality entirely after conceptual quality while hoping to have their opinion taken seriously is something only a biased idiot would do, and I hope for your sake you aren't being serious within that perspective.

Otherwise I'm interested in your reasoning.

>>83685442
No it ain't that the plot is big and sprawling.

It's just that the fundamentals of the story works. Kingdom Hearts is a fusion of Disney and Square Enix. The bad guys having this absurd complicated 1000 year plan, and every time they get their shit pushed in by that old Disney goodness.

It makes for a satisfying experience. And characters like Aqua and Roxas are legitimately interesting tragic figures.

>>83685325
Mysteries don't have to be these deep things with complex deep stories with dark twists

Why does /co/ have a massive hateboner for SU?

>>83685659
We don't

>>83685637
>A mystery doesn't have to be a mystery
The whole fucking point of a mystery is the story and twists.

>>83685659
Because the fans are fucking annoying. I like SU but avoid the threads here like a plague. The general is terrible just like all other generals too.

>>83685697
Something being "unexplainable" and "chaotic for no reason" is the literal fucking definition of a mystery.

>>83685659
The tiny horses taught us a harsh lesson.

>>83685659
I dont frequent /co/, but I like SU alright and appreciate it for what it is. I just dont think its the best damn cartoon in the world and I dont really dig the SJW vibe i get from it.

>>83685788
There is a difference between mystery as a genre and the actual fucking word

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IT'S JUST DRAGONBALL
IT'S JUST A SHITTY WESTERN VERSION OF DRAGONBALL WITH FEMINISM INSTEAD OF THE MONKEY KING MYTH

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>83685788
That's not mysterious that's just inexplicable, it has no reason to it.

Mysteries have reasons, they're supposed to be like puzzles, things are initially shadowy and then it all comes to light. But with Gravity Falls the reason shit is weird is because they come from weird dimension. That's weak as shit.

Now you might say, it's okay, it's technically a mystery, because you didn't know they came from weird dimension at first. Yeah that's an entity you can call a mystery. But for a mystery STORY which Gravity Falls consistently advertised itself as, it's pretty fucking lame.

>>83685863
The only mystery was the author's identity. But even that got completely tossed aside as unimportant.
Rushed ending is written all over the second season. It Twin Peaks'd itself.

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>>83685616

>The bad guys having this absurd complicated 1000 year plan, and every time they get their shit pushed in by that old Disney goodness.

This is viewing the series' storytelling as positive through an extremely altered lens. Not only does it miss out on HOW that story is told (telling a part of the story is not judging its presentation), but "old Disney goodness" triumphing over evil is an ambiguous compliment to give. "Good vs Evil" has existed forever in the cheesiest ways, and Disney has never even been close to sticking to one certain brand of it; even if the best example may be "colorful and teeming with soul."

Its storytelling isn't good because the way they go about it is a convoluted mess. And I'm not saying that simply because the lore/story is filled with mountainous quantity of detail. Just about every game they manage to either retcon establishment, or fail to bridge events properly. And that's not even the most criminal issue, considering it does an awful, basically nonexistent job of proper foreshadowing despite heaps of new plot elements introduced every title. Even the way events are chained isn't never haphazardly sudden. KH's writing is mostly plot driven, yet making all these fundamental errors which affect a majority of its own establishment is basically a hallmark of insufficient quality.

Even considering it's inevitably gonna sound like a fanfiction, there's a fine line crossing from "fanfiction" to "unnecessarily complex mess of a setting." Its storytelling does its job, but with a largely significant price it doesn't have to be inclined to suffer. At best it's tolerable because of the fact it's a big budget game series with positive attributes going for almost anything that isn't its literary merit.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it, and it's one of those stories you gotta turn off your brain for. Still, it makes too many mistakes and goes overboard to earnestly be placed in the realm of "good", in spite of any relativity.

While I dont think SU is the first of its kind, I do enjoy the comfy/relaxed atmosphere of the slower parts of the show. Also the music isnt half bad.

>>83685222

Voltron would exist regardless of what was playing on CN. Plus CN or any other channel wouldn't take the risk on a show like Voltron.

In summation, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Go to bed.

>>83683850
people respect the show because authenticity in a show's voice and tone are to be respected. everyone knows that coming-of-age stories are well-trod material, but SU feels like it comes from a position of positivity and honesty. it makes a huge difference.

>>83685801

You've learned nothing except how to bitch. Get some perspective.

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>>83684807
>yfw Sadie's Song was a metaphor for Rose's war

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>>83685171
That may be, but how else am I supposed to make Pearl real?

>>83684382
>recommending RWBY
>ever

Really nigga? That shit is actually embarrassing to look at.

Avatar is good but not really a mystery. Most of the major plot points are revealed immediately, it's how the characters go about resolving them that takes up most of the story. The series does have good worldbuilding, though.

>>83685222
>Steven Universe's fanbase is seriously a cancer on par with My Little Brony

I hate newfags who don't actually remember the days when bronies were a plague upon this board. SUtards do not force their waifus into every discussion out of principle or shit up unrelated threads with gem porn. Nor do they constantly post new threads about the most insignificant stupid fetishy shit. In fact, they tend to stay contained entirely within their general when it's here, and I rarely see SU threads up when it's not.

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>>83685171
Rebecca is a /co/mrade who hit the big time. If I don't have faith in people like her, what hope do I have of making something of myself?

>>83686683
I dont know, there probably some cosplayers out there.

>>83687047
Who said to not have faith in/look up to people? The hope in making something of yourself relies on yourself and hard work, not other peoples deeds.

I don't know what you're personally trying to accomplish in life, but you will often be shitty at something before you're good. Try to remember that when shit gets overbearing.

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>>83685836
>Dragonball
top fucking kek
SU did not start out as a parody of what it's doing and then started taking itself too seriously turning into a bloated piece of trash aka Z and beyond.

>>83685366
I'd love Lost too if it had actual explanations.

>>83684382
>RWBY
NAH NIGGA, NAH

Starting the plot three seasons deep is not the same as uncovering mysteries.

>>83687344
Why couldn't Dragonball Z be as good, Anon? It hurts

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>>83687925
it tried to "grow up", which is a huge mistake if your initial premise was essentially a minor with superpowers fighting dorky nazis. ...In a way the same mistake Pokemon made. But worse.

>>83688213
You say that like Toriyama had a choice. Shonen Jump editors are fucking cunts.

>>83683981
>don't why the main character even exists/why Rose Quartz sacrificed herself
Watch Lion 3 again, anon. She says she wants to be human. That aside I see your bigger point and I would agree.

>>83685222
k

>>83683891
Even JJ's show runner said they weren't aiming to make a feminist show, and the Jones wouldn't have been one.

>>83688213
I appreciate Z for expanding the series, and I wouldn't want the show without that.

>>83685222
I dont get this meme. Theres plenty of other shows that have more fat characters than SU of which it only has like 3-4. Why does it get so much slack for it, despite Gravity Falls having like 8 fat characters?

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Criticize and praise the show all you want /co/. Your praise is autistic and your criticism is based in your praise. Nothing is more obnoxious than a nonstop general except for people who are mad because others like a thing.

Steven Universe is a show about a boy learning to control his magical powers and accept responsibilities he never asked for. It's like conventions 101 if that's all you say to describe it. It's not some sjw boogie man jesus Christ. The creators are just really into magical girl harem animes and shit, the femininity of the characters is based way more.heavily in that than any girl power that threatens your fragile bubble.

And it doesn't have to be original to be good. It is good at getting you invested in the emotions of the characters and its serialization allows them.to grow and change.

Of course it's popular with Tumblr. It's popular with 4chan. Websites aren't hive minds you fucking babies. Some asshat posting guro on /b/ doesn't represent you just as much as some shitlord misandrist posting on tumblr doesn't represent tumblr. Popular things are going to be popular, period. Nobody is trying to fucking pander to anyone.

>>83683850
I'm still trying to figure out why people react like idiots about it on both sides

it's either >omg so progressive
or >literally tumblr


it's like the people who spout this shit don't like cartoons, but want to fit in with people who have the same political agenda

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New Pasta

Criticize and praise the show all you want /co/. Your praise is autistic and your criticism is based in your praise. Nothing is more obnoxious than a nonstop general except for people who are mad because others like a thing.
Gravity Falls is a show about a boy learning to uncover the mysteries of a town and accept responsibilities he never asked for. It's like conventions 101 if that's all you say to describe it. It's not some shitty rushed series jesus Christ. The creators are just really into mystery twin peaks and shit, the one noteness of the characters is what makes it way more funny in that than it threatens your fragile bubble.

And it doesn't have to be original to be good. It is good at getting you invested in the deepest lore of the town and its serialization allows them to grow and change.

Of course it's popular with Tumblr. It's popular with 4chan. Websites aren't hive minds you fucking babies. Some asshat posting guro on /b/ doesn't represent you just as much as some shitlord misandrist posting on tumblr doesn't represent tumblr. Popular things are going to be popular, period. Nobody is trying to fucking pander to anyone.

>>83688939
I agree
>>83689113
pls

>>83685290
Steven Universe might still have bad storytelling when it reveals its curently unsolved mysteries, but Gravity Falls is over and there's no redeeming it. It was unsatisfying and filled with copouts everywhere you look because Hirsch bailed.

>>83686925
>>83687754
epic meme masters

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Criticize and praise the show all you want /co/. Your praise is autistic and your criticism is based in your praise. Nothing is more obnoxious than a nonstop general except for people who are mad because others like a thing.

Adventure Time is a show about a boy and his dog adventuring turned and fighting evil monsters. It's like conventions 101 if that's all you say to describe it. It's not some shitty rushed series Jesus Christ. The creators are just really into making Finn miserable and Bubbline and shit. The new complexity of the characters, erasing their old personalities is what makes it way more interesting and the femininity of the characters is based way more heavily in that than any girl power that threatens your fragile bubble.

And it doesn't have to be original to be good. It is good at getting you invested in the deepest lore of the town and its serialization allows them to grow and change.

Of course it's popular with Tumblr. It's pretty much dead on 4chan, but websites aren't hive minds you fucking babies. Some asshat posting guro on /b/ doesn't represent you just as much as some shitlord misandrist posting on tumblr doesn't represent tumblr. Popular things are going to be popular, period. Nobody is trying to fucking pander to anyone.

>>83689432
pls tell me marci pulled his hand to her boob

>>83689432
Adventure Time is a show about a boy and his dog adventuring turned and fighting evil monsters

not any more

>>83688445
nah man, I can only judge the outcome, I won't judge the maker if I know nothing.
>>83688641
I can relate to that, but Z was just not playing in the same league.

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>>83689453
no

>>83689422
>I disagree so your opinion is a meme
Kids these days.

>>83689815
nice joke the only only reason you hate it is because you saw a cherry picked webm and want the cool kids to like you and now you hate it too

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>>83683874
MLP was for a while. Even Sarkeesian was a fan, then the Brony Frienzonies got stronger and soon MLP became "that show."
Also as someone who hates SJW shit, I don't hate SU. In a network full of shitty badly animated CalArts clones, it's a well slice of life/animated action show so I can't really hate it.

What the hell is a RWBY?

I thought this was a bait thread for SU

>>83689907
>Doesn't even pick up the intended irony.
Good lord, son.

Regardless, no. RWBY's writing is awful. Sub-Bleach tier, even. It takes a ridiculously long time to establish a meaningful content and the characters are so shallow it's sad.

>>83689999
Weeaboo cartoon made by Roostertooth. Guy heading it died of cancer or something similar. Not worth watching.

>>83689999
A faux-anime made in Mike Mike Dance that makes a gorilla on dollars because cute girls doing flips and shooting lasers sells.

>>83689999
Also, damn. Those are some well-toned quads.

>>83690062
>Mike Mike
Miku Miku.

>>83685659
SU: Asians, White People
/co/: Dindu Nuffins
Success breeds hatred.

>>83689936
>decently-written show that revolves around female characters with almost no romance
>feminists hate it solely out of spite because low-status men like it

It's actually kind of funny. They're like little kids.

>>83689999
Does bait mean "thing I don't like" on /co/ now?

>>83690040
yea looks like you dont watch it now go back to /a/ and bitch about it

>>83690040
something that weebs hate

>>83690085
It's funny. They complain that little girls don't have enough shows geared towards them. Welcome to the American entertainment industry, animation costs lots of money, and a successful show doesn't just happen by magic. Spongebob became huge because of it's adult fan base it's why it has run for so long, same thing with MLP.

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>>83690232
>>>/trash/sug/

>>83683981
Generator Rex

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>>83689936

I feel the same actually.

>>83690102

I don't have a problem with SU, just saying this is one of those "Now that the dust has settled" type bait threads.

>>83690102
No the OP is just framed in a way thats basically saying "Why Do people like this show?", which just tends to yield trolly responses.

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>>83683850

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>>83690581
>Waifu fags on 4chan
you people act like this is new, SU is on par with anime in terms of fanbase, because weaboos.

>>83685659
more like why do falseflaggers constantly post bait threads that eventually turn into the usual /sug/ drivel?

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>>83684151
hue

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>>83688939
i like you, anon

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Is fun to watch.

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>>83690581
>>83690690
I don't know where this idea came from that you have to latch onto one character from any given show and then fight other people to the death over whose "waifu" is "best girl." But it sure is aggravating.

>>83691527
Squid a shit

>>83683850
It's got a pretty kickass OST. But like everything else, classic sponge beats it out.

>>83684530
What are you talking about? Fusion took them multiple episodes to even get it done right. Even then it was a very temporary thing and flawed.

And someone has never watched cartoons from the early and mid-90s. Several immediate cartoons that come to mind are Gargoyles and Exo Squad.

>>83691943
What do you mean? It was done right in the very first fusion episode.

>>83691527
Kill yourself pedoweeb.

>>83691983
Pretty sure they had problems with it all the way up until they needed it against Buu. I could be wrong though. It's been a long time since I watched that saga.

>>83685836
fuck off pat.

>>83683850

It's just Homestuck meets Madoka slathered with a thick layer of parody.

Nothing about Steven Universe is new, but it's new to western TV cartoons.

>>83689936
Nice Dog

>>83683850
They don't, you're just butthurt for some reason i don't care about and scraping the bottom of the barrel for any excuse to justify your opinions.

>>83692195
Goten and Trunks had trouble and it's treated as comedy. Vegeta and Goku got it right because they used the earring cheat.

>>83692423
Those are two distinct fusion methods.

One is temporary and the other is permanent. Secondly fusion dance has the fused where a set garment similar to Majin Buu's and potara earings cause the fused clothes to fuse.

>>83692423
>>83692781
I just realized I made spelling errors and was too serious to your intentionally silly reply.

But yeah>>83684530
>>83691943
>>83691983
>>83692195

Basically what >>83692423 said.

But, also what I said >>83692781. DB/Z fusion dance had specific rules to it and making one wrong move can give undesired results. Plus it had two different fusion methods.

SU is just a better later seasons Adventure Time with way more anime references.

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Reminder that Jasper is the only loyalist gem on earth, the rest are filthy rebel scum who got corrupted by the rebel queen.
Pearls reason for betrayal, lady boner for the enemy queen.
Garnets reason for betrayal, urges for unnatural abomination of a fusion between two different type of gems.
Amethysts reason for betrayal, ... no one knows that one is a mystery.
Peridot reason for betrayal, corrupted by a half breed son of the the rebel queen.
Jasper stays true to the cause no matter who she has to fight, the vanguard of home world reconquista of earth and a true patriot.
Jasper we salute you for your integrity!

>>83693499
Jasper is shattered.

>>83693499
Amethyst didn't betray them. She was born way after Homeworld left earth

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>>83693499
She's gonna get her ass handed to her by Amethyst, proving that the CGs are stronger. She's gonna be CG, like it or not.

>>83690581
>uhhh, yeah they do. you don't know how many times ive seen some autist post a picture of pearl, then some other turbo aspie respond to them "peaerl a shit, peridot a best" or some other brain fart half resembling a sentence, then these two autistic fucks will start writing paragraphs back and forth. all the while in the middle of a gravity falls or star vs thread.

I frequent (or frequented, in the case of GF) the generals for both those series and I have never seen this happen.

SU fans generally keep to themselves. The only time I've ever seen them popping up in annoying places is on /tg/, for typical 'stat me' threads. Which every fanbase goes to /tg/ for at some point.

>>83693613
Probably true knowing what the writers are like "koombayah, beaver munching hand holding and huuuugs!"
Oh well she will be remembered at her best.

>>83689422
No, RWBY is just fetid shit.

DeviantArt tier character designs, wonky animation, fucking abysmal generic writing. It's a shounen battle anime done in the horrible "look at everything I love about animu" style of twelve year old weebs and animated in a horribly inferior engine due to the creator's stubbornness.

It is bad.

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Zuke a best. Also, Lapidot.

>>83693745
I dig it.

>>83693721
I hope at least Jasper has a rivalry with Garnet. Like a Goku/Vegeta thing where she tries super hard to flaunt her superior strength over Garnet.

>>83692357
>Nothing about Steven Universe is new, but it's new to western TV cartoons.

This is true.

>It's just Homestuck meets Madoka slathered with a thick layer of parody.

Man what the fuck are you even on with this? The show has nothing in common with either of those things.

>>83693833
Keep dreaming, show writers idea of character development is everyone becoming part of the hivemind, her quirky trait will probably be that she is clumsy and cutesy after joining or something as awful.

>>83683969
I don't believe that simply having a strong female protagonist makes LoK a feminist show.
Should probably put some quotations around 'strong', for that matter.
Having a bisexual main character also has nothing to do with feminism either.

>>83693966
Nah, Lapis is a sad bitch who hates fun and even Peridot is a bit disjointed from the rest of the group and generally sucks at social interaction. Don't generalize, I'm sure the Homeworld gems' characterization will be fine.

>>83693847

It has everything to do with those two things. Are you one of those autists who can only see similarities if they are literal?

>>83694093
Peridots quirky trait is she is socially retarded after she joined hivemind.
Lapis quirky trait is she is a emo bitch with a hate / love for water.
Wish they would make homeworld gems that have actual integrity and loyalty, ruby's were bunch of goofs, opposition from homeworld is ridiculous making the show bland.

>>83683850

Let's just act like it will be the last

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>>83690581
So your response to being called a newfag is basically confirming you're a newfag?

>>83683874
This is indeed the first cartoon show about lesbians and misandry.

>>83694173
>Peridots quirky trait is she is socially retarded after she joined hivemind.
When was she not socially retarded? We've never seen her interact with other characters that often before.
>Lapis quirky trait is she is a emo bitch with a hate / love for water.
Why would she not be? She's been fucked by Jasper for months straight at the bottom of the ocean. People don't bounce back from that shit.

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>>83690104
Bitch i seen all three volumes and it sucks ass

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>>83692332
Would't it be cool if they made a steven universe fighting game?, i think that'd be neat

>>83694167
Please explain in detail.

I mean, if you mean "it's a plot where things get revealed slowly" as being a Homestuck thing and "it turns out superheroes aren't what you thought they were" is a Madoka thing... I'd say you're being way too general.

SU has basically nothing in common with either series in terms of themes, characterization, tone, etc. At most you could say that Homestuck and SU are both slow-burning series.

>>83683907
I think it's the first show has gotten this far or is produced this well, most shows that came before it either didn't actually plan to end, got cancelled or just wasn't really that good.

>>83694659
Only if it has fusion.

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>>83694167
not him, not an /a/fag but

>Homestuck
postmodern/sarcastic tone
heavily based in internet and vidya culture
plot first, character second
loads of fucking lore
shipbait, meta humor

>SU
optimistic tone, pacifist themes
basically an anime
character first, plot second
basic lore
no shipbait, very light meta humor

I don't get it, enlighten me anon.

Show posted on a network for children as the main audience.
All I'm saying.

>>83694833
>no ship bait
Really?

>>83695255
It mostly just goes straight for the romances.

There aren't any love triangles or god forbid any of Homestuck's double love squares.

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>>83695255
Well...

>>83694833
>character first, plot second
More like: MUH FEELS first, drama second, characters third, plot whenever they remember putting it.

>>83695407
The first three are pretty much intertwined

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>>83695407
>I don't like this show so its character development doesn't actually exist

It's not the first, but still pretty unique in a lot of ways.

>>83683907
Bullshit. The plot is about as heavy as Xiaolin Showdown's; probably less because of how slowly it progresses.

If SU is especially unique for anything, it is because of the characters' interactions, and how the show's issues are vague enough to allow the fans to project them onto their own bullshit insecurities.

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>>83696960
>the show's issues are vague enough to allow the fans to project them onto their own bullshit insecurities
pretty much this

>Garnet: W-why am I so sure that I'd rather be this than everything I was supposed to be, and that I'd rather do this than anything I was supposed to do?
>tg: it represents trans!
>gay: it represents lgbt!
>atheist: it's atheism!
>christian: it's jesus!
>brony: it's mlp!
>furfag: it's furries!
>nambla: it's pedo!
>/d/: it's futa!
>trump: it's wall-building!
>redpill: it's negging!
>muslim: it's jihad!

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>>83683850
No idea, but I just started getting into this show and what the fuck is up with the airing schedule?

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>>83697115
There isn't one.

Cartoon Network spends most of their time trying to avoid acknowledging Steven Universe as their show, refusing to air new episodes and shoving Teen Titans Go into their assigned slots. Every once in a rare while though we have a "Steven Bomb" in which CN blows their repressed load of SU in the form of a week of new episodes.

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>>83685154
Why dont people like Steven and Peridot again?

>>83697491
I don't, Connie's a shit

>>83697229
Dont forget that these episodes always fucking leak, like they just dont give a shit

>>83692022
How am I either of these things? What the fuck are you talking about? Are you mentally ill?

>>83697115
>>83697229
>>83697607
The point is that CN recognizes the show's potential, but also Sugar's odd lack of jewness despite her appearance.
Sugar isn't going to let the show run past it's end point/become a zombie like AT or all the shows on Nick.
CN recognizes this, but also loves the hype they can get out of the show, so they keep spreading it out more and more.
>bomb format allows them to bump the interest in the show whenever it starts to wane
>bombs show huge spikes in internet response to the show, ergo the kind of success they want
>They split the current season into two, allowing them to have longer breaks as it was the "between season" time

CN isn't trying to avoid SU, they're trying to avoid running out of SU so they can milk it for as long as possible.

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>>83697736
Not him but I think he is referring to your pic in which you claim a little girl in an anime is the best girl.

That image and filename is contradicting your post, however, so I would assume it's meant to be ironic, or to be an example of the "aggravating waifu posting" that you don't like, and that you do not have genuine feelings for this small child. Would this assumption be correct? If so then I think >>83692022 didn't read through and comprehend your post and just jumped at the first opportunity to be angry.

>>83697948
Yes it's ironic, but what the hell does the character have to do with pedophilia or weeaboo? She isn't real and she isn't even prepubescent in-universe.

>>83697913
I mean, I hope youre right. Nothing worse than a show that gets cancelled before it finishes its story

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>>83698119
Im not even part of the conversation but would you please shut up about it? No one cares. Is this the first time youve been insulted on the internet or something?

>>83698312
Why are you complaining to me about this? I did not start this. I did not bring this up.

>>83687925
It was better when it was actually about the dragonballs, now it's just a constant pissing contest.

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>>83693499
Wasn't Amethyst's reason directly stated in the extended intro? She considers the Earth her home, and she wants to protect it.

>>83689936
I'm hugely anti-SJW and their hideous works. I also enjoy Steven Universe, and don't really see it as SJW like /co/ like to insinuate. Drenched in estrogen, sure, but there's other shows for primarily female audiences I've enjoyed as well.

>>83683907
Young Justice was really plot heavy too, more so than SU.

>>83694783
Secret Satudays

>>83694833
when you put it that way (I'd say SU's lore is medium, not basic) I can see why they seem different.
but there's SOMETHING about them that's similar: some SU crew members are homestucks, and there's a lot of fandom overlap (though SU starting shortly after a huge homestuck hiatus started probably has something to do with it)

>>83697607
>Leak

It's not a fucking leak. The world doesn't revolve around America.

>>83683889
>in an attempt to be hip
How?

>>83693745
Bruh.

>>83697491
Because he already has a respective love interest.
An actual fan supports that.

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got this written up, dare I?

TL;DR I meant "spend time apart" not "break up" and ruby and sapphire's relationship isn't unhealthy for gems but it doesn't change the validity of my point

>>83703254
Why are you asking us? I don't think you're doing this for a laugh anymore, I get the impression you might genuinely care about this. If so, asking 4chan if you should post something on Tumblr is about the worst idea.
For multiple reasons.

>>83703432
To be honest, I was never doing this for a laugh. I mean, the post was always sincere, it was only my reaction that was trolling

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beats me

>>83698362
Yes, you did. Fuck you.

>>83704655
Where did I start it and how?

>>83704655
>>83704707
Would the two of you shut the fuck up! It doesn't matter, no one cares!

>>83704785
Once again: I did not start this.

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>>83697491
>Steven x Peridot becomes real
>Steven murdercocks Peridot

I don't understand why Stevidot fans think they're winning with this.

Steven Universe is the felicia day of tv shows.

>mediocre in every aspect but held in high regard because all of it's fans think it's the first to do everything it's known for

>>83700404
got cancelled. along with gen rex.

>>83704994
>Steven murdercocks Peridot
>Peridot Jr. is male and 3/4ths gem
>eventually he too murdercocks another gem
>this goes on for dozens of generations until male gems become a part of gem culture
>it becomes commonplace in gem culture for female gems to be murdercocked

>>83705194
>Felicia Day
>popular for anything besides being a cute nerdy girl
It sounds like you know as much about Felicia Day as you do about SU.

>>83684219
what bothered me the most about GF "mysteries" is that all of the "hidden lore" and "secret codes" and all the bullshit clues and easter eggs dont mean shit, most of the were pointless jokes with no bearing on the plot.

meanwhile on steven universe we are still getting hidden meaning from the pyramid temple in season one

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>>83706375
this desu. there's still plot threads we still don't have an answer to in season 3.

>>83700573
He is just using buzz words.
People don't want to actually critique the show so they just critique the concepts of the show with buzzwords they've heard online

>>83695255
No you faggot there is very little if any ship bait. Almost all of it is just basic social interaction or learning to understand someone else better. The only ship bait is in your head.

>>83707437
>WHAT IS GRAVITY FALLS
Gravity Falls is an American animated television series produced by Disney Television Animation that first aired on Disney Channel, and then on Disney XD from June 15, 2012 to February 15, 2016. The series follows the adventures of Dipper Pines (voiced by Jason Ritter) and his twin sister Mabel (voiced by Kristen Schaal) in the fictional town of Gravity Falls, Oregon, while on summer vacation. At the start of the series, Dipper and Mabel are sent to spend the summer with their great-uncle (or "Grunkle") Stan (voiced by Alex Hirsch), in a mysterious town full of paranormal forces and supernatural creatures. The kids help Stan run "The Mystery Shack", the tourist trap that he owns, while also investigating the local mysteries. The series officially premiered on the Disney Channel in the United States on June 15, 2012.

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>>83683981
that's called "making shit up as they go along" story-telling

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Why can't we all get along and shitpost in harmony?

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>>83709025
because this fucking thread is falling apart

What are your guy's opinions on the various themed SU blocks?
>Steven's Power Hours
Gem Glow
Cat Fingers
So Many Birthdays
Steven and the Stevens
Monster Buddies
Island Adventure
Watermelon Steven
The Test

>Gem Fusions
Giant Woman
Coach Steven
Fusion Cuisine
Alone Together
Jailbreak
We Need to Talk
Cry For Help
The Answer

>Gem Bonding
Tiger Millionaire
Steven the Sword Fighter
Beach Party
Space Race
Garnet’s Universe
On the Run
Love Letters
Reformed

>Stevonnie Forever
Bubble Buddies
Lion 2: The Movie
An Indirect Kiss
Fusion Cuisine
Alone Together
Winter Forecast
Open Book
Sworn to the Sword

>Mother's Day
Laser Light Cannon
Rose's Room
Lion 3: Straight to Video
Maximum Capacity
Rose's Scabbard
Story for Steven
We Need to Talk
The Answer

>Homeworld Gems
Mirror Gem
Ocean Gem
Warp Tour
Marble Madness
The Message
Political Power
The Return
Jail Break

>Crystal Chaos
Full Disclosure
Keeping it Together
Chille Tid
Cry for Help
Keystone Motel
Historical Friction
Onion Friend
Friendship

>Peridot's Redemption
Warp Tour
Catch and Release
When it Rains
Back to the Barn
Too Far
It Could've Been Great
Message Received
Log Date 7 15 2

>In Too Deep
Super Watermelon Island
Gem Drill
Same Old World
Barn Mates
Hit the Diamond
Back to the Barn
It Could've Been Great
Message Received

SU is just a poormans Sailor Moon/anime, with more "Body Positivity" (Gotta accept fat people can do shit too, right?!) and "Girl power" with mentions/ideas of being "Trans inclusive".

>>83710258
and here's the upcoming ones
>Crystal Gem Jams
Coach Steven
Steven and the Stevens
Jail Break
Sadie's Song
>Greg's Greatest Hits
Laser Light Cannon
Story for Steven
The Message
We Need to Talk

>Steven and Friends
Frybo
Lars and the Cool Kids
Onion Trade
Love Letters
>Keep Beach City Weird
Cat Fingers
Keep Beach City Weird
Horror Club
Rising Tides/Crashing Skies

>>83710258
>>83710293
God Tier
>Gem Fusions
>Mother's Day
>Homeworld Gems

Top Tier
>Gem Bonding (except Love Letters)
>In Too Deep

Good Tier
>Stevonnie Forever
>Crystal Chaos
>Peridot's Redemption

OK Tier
>Steven's Power Hours
>Greg's Greatest Hits
>Crystal Gem Jams

Shit Tier
>Steven and Friends
>Keep Beach City Weird

>>83688939
>magical girl harem animes
Those exist??

>>83689999
Fight scenes are cool, and you might like the characters. It's not super professional, so it has that charm of improving technically over.

>>83683981
You don't watch a lot of anything, do you?

>>83694351
Hey Marty women are people!

but men aren't

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>>83704994
because

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>>83683850
Well, it is.
It's the first show with Pearl in it.

>>83705471
Except it finished the story

>>83714653
this desu

>>83686925
I never said RWBY was good or that you should watch it, just that it keeps you in the dark for a long time.

>>83705530

>felicia day
>cute

wil is this you?

>>83714653
any vanilla fics where Pearl becomes Steven's "mother"?

>>83683981
>Tell me of another show that keeps you in the dark as much as this one, if you know of it. I'm genuinely interested in this way of telling stories.
Adventure time

>>83711729
>but men aren't
How can you say that when two of the best characters are guys, and are Sucrose's favorites? Someone doesn't believe in Steven.

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>>83715625
>any vanilla fics where Pearl becomes Steven's "mother"?
What did he mean by this?
Seriously tho
Do you mean, as in remplace Rose? Or shapeshift?
Or simply Pearl doing (or at least trying) to do mom things? Pic related?

>>83715764
/ss/

>>83685222
Well thats just not true at all

Stop letting yourself get so triggered over nothing friend

>>83699158
>>83689936
these

I don't understand how SU is SJW at all

it's a good cartoon that has character development and manages to do both good self-contained episodes and long over-arcing plots at the same time. AT and gumball did neither.

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>>83715777

>>83686683
Learn to make a tulpa!

>>83715817
tulpas are one of the most retarded shit I've encountered on the internet. and I've seen a lot of retarded shit.

>>83683874
This is unironically the answer to op's question

It's just also a good cartoon

>>83701048
Yes, but their relationship is incredibly boring. I like Connie as a character, but whenever she and Steven has any kind of interaction it's just "OH LOOK HOW CUTE THEY ARE TOGETHER YOUNG LOVE AND SHIT", whereas Steven and Peridot play off each other much better.

t. A butthurt Stevidotfag who'll never be happy

>>83700442
Anon is right. SU is nothing like HS.

>>83715787
because made by female SJW clammer on to it...
which is kinda ironic and sexist.

>>83695255
Yes, really
They even made an episode where Peridot watches a single episode of a TV show and starts having a loooong silly rant about who's supposed to date who
And the irony of it all is that the shipfags took that comedic scene and started looking for even more "hints" about "confirmed" ships

>>83685353
Bro you were saying it like "Uh uh you could bend the truth that way" but no that's truly as deep as Gravity Falls went, there was no bending involved.

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>>83687057
This. Just find a very thin, pale girl with no ass or boobs and a motherly but bland personality. I'm sure 1 in a million women are probably like that.

>>83715905
can't they just be friends for fucks sake? why does it need to be romantic, christ.

>>83692357
>>83694167
Literally the only thing SU has in common with HS is that you could make fan characters of the aliens and that's not even anything that's all that notable about HS.

>>83715905
I agree on liking Peridot's and Steven's dynamic much better, but in a platonic way. People can be very much in tune with each other without it being romantic. And I really prefer Peri and Steven to have a sibling/best friends relationship

>>83716007
It's the only male/female interaction in cartoons these days where the couple goes directly to romance from the first episode, let it be. If anything is annoying in its "Just let them be friends" category it's every single other cartoon where the guy pines after an uninterested girl until he wins her love or is continuously beaten up by his own inability to move the fuck on which is supposed to be funny except we've seen every joke they've done with that concept fifty times over and they still keep doing it.

>>83716007
Why can't we just let them be in a romantic relationship fucks sake?!
No, really, fuck this shit. Like >>83716077 says, there's nearly no fuckin cartoons with romance that brings something on the table.
I wouldn't like it if it felt rushed and retarded like a certain show with a certain surprise lesbian couple, but I think we can trust in the SU crew to make it work smoothly.
If watching romantic relationships in a cartoon makes you feel awkward, I'm sorry.

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Hey dudes, I've been away from 4chan for a week or two

Did Janitors kill /sug/ again?

>>83716798
/sug/ lives on in /trash/ don't worry senpai

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>It's a "/co/ shitposts about SU" episode

>>83716798
Yes

>>83709025
Everything about gems in one gif

>>83716798
You'd better believe it baby.

If you're not up to date, hope is kill for the 23rd, and it's unlikely to come back on the 30th due to the TTG/PPG crossover that they're hyping up so much. Current most-anticipated date of return is now the 7th of July.

>>83697491
Because it's pedophilia.

>>83715625
you mean like what happens in the actual show?

>>83685222
Ok

>>83690062
I thought I was being rused when I was told that RWBY was animated with Miku Miku Dance.

They actually use MMD?

>>83714238
>kingcrimson.png

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>>83720265
/a/ Is right over there.

>>83710258
>Steven's Power Hours
I'd say that An Indirect Kiss and House Guest would've been more relevant than Steven and the Stevens and Island Adventure

>Gem Fusions
good line up

>Gem Bonding
Secret Team probably would've fit better than Space Race

>Stevonnie Forever
good line up

>Mother's Day
An Indirect Kiss seems way more relevant than
The Answer

>Homeworld Gems
good line up

>Crystal Chaos
In a vacuum I'd say that We Need to Talk is more relevant than Full Disclosure But I can tell that these last few are following up with each other and the last one ended with jail break

>Peridot's Redemption
good line up, the absence of Keeping it together and Friend Ship can be excused by both time limitations AND the fact that both episodes are in the previous marathon

>In Too Deep
It seems like the last three are at the end because they were in the last marathon AND they needed time filler

>>83710293
>Crystal Gem Jams
gimped by reduced time
>Greg's Greatest Hits
good line up

>Steven and Friends
gimped (but not as badly) by reduced time
>Keep Beach City Weird
good line up (cat fingers is ronaldo's introduction)

>>83690371
This

>>83683946
sometimes im eating an icecream cone and want to plunge my man gem into the cone while i daydream of pearl

>>83689757
>finnzoned

>>83694566
nope

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>>83717279
isnt it every episode?

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I like the show because I want to fuck the characters, but deep down inside I want to cuddle them because I have mommy issues or something.

It's helps me sleep at night as I hug/hump my pillow till I lose consciousness.

There, if you began to read the thread now, I just saved you hours of scrolling past nonsense and shitposts. Have a lingerie Pearl.

>>83685863
Please, there's no such thing as mysterious.

>>83685312
>SU is the closest thing to an action cartoon with an overarching story that is currently airing
Damn, when those muslims yells "decadent west" they weren't lying.

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>>83719760
>>83688528
What are these points of these "ok" posts? I mean, in real life you say "ok" when someone you're talking to says something you don't even want to discuss, but on the internet saying "ok" isn't a signifier of non-interest, you have to actually bother to type it out

>>83722678
its a troll

>>83694351

>misandry
>The very main character is a male

kys

>>83723512
Steven is ok, but look at all the supporting male characters. They are usually weird, incompetent, psychotic caricatures of masculinity.
Can't blame them, tho. There haven't been many good male role models lately

>>83683850
I know, right? MLP had colorful and complex lesbians first.

>>83683981
Sym-Bionic Titan.

Exo-Squad.

>>83697112
>human: it's purpose!

>>83724137
what fucking show are you watching, because it sure isn't steven universe

>>83683981
>and we STILL don't know why the main character even exists/why Rose Quartz sacrificed herself.
but we do know that

>>83724630
yeah too bad that got cancelled.

>>83690085
It's not about men liking it, it's about MLP being synonymous with Bronies. That has nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with the fact that Bronies are awful.
Honestly if dudes could just feel comfortable liking something for girls without giving themselves a dumbass name and keep the weird sexual shit just slightly more on the DL MLP wouldn't have become such an outstanding example of shitty fandom.

>>83685222
this post is getting shit for no reason

SU is written like fanfiction. It's all there, the characters that are labels (but they were/are elaborated upon that one time/every other blue moon so suddenly theyre well written characters forever), emotional situations that appeal only to teenagers, and incredibly cringeworthy dialogue. The show has a lot of content, but it's superficial content. It's a collection of overblown tropes that are taken way too seriously by whoever is writing this, so much that I can't help but feel like this is a very pretentious show when it comes to reach to the audience and present a profound message. Of course it has the light hearted stuff, but emotional shit really dies and stains the overall experience when it doesn't stick, because that's what happens when you want to deal with delicate themes.

i have never watched steven universe

>>83725307
[post picking apart everything you've said in the main body of your post without having read the last line]

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>>83683850
You just described the outside view of every fanbase

>>83724137
All the supporting characters are weird, useless caricatures though. In fact the most positive support character is clearly Greg, who is pretty clearly portrayed as a good man whose been badly hurt by the loss of Rose, and the poor treatment he gets from the other Gems is very clearly an intentional character flaw for them.

>>83725339
i wrote an imaginary saatirical argument and you cant even be assed to write a real one? try harder man

>>83716007
To be honest it'd be a more interesting and healthy moral than if they end up together
>Men and women can be just friends without there being any pressure for them to date
as oppose to
>If you make friends with a lonely bitch, she'll be all up in that dick ASAP

>>83704994
Don't forget the Gem has to actively opt to form a womb to be murdercocked.
Greg and Rose fucked so hard that Pearl is still having 'nam style flashbacks over it, but its only when she chose to get inseminated that Rose died for our Stevens.

Basically, having sex with a Gem is like having sex with a girl who prefers anal, not much risk of preggers surprise.

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>>83724137
Greg is the second best male rolemodel in tv history.
Compare him to any Sitcom dad ever, which you usually get in 2 flavors, angry and incompetent.
He owns his own business, is always there for his son and apart from being over the hill has no real flaws.
He even forgives Amethyst for being the biggest cunt ever.
He's a good person in every classical sense of the word.

>>83726773
Greg is super underrated

one of my favorite characters in SU

>>83724137
>but look at all the supporting male characters. They are usually weird, incompetent, psychotic caricatures of masculinity.
They are mostly stable business owners or politicians, what in the fuck are you even talking about.

Ronaldo and possibly Marten are the only characters that fit what you're describing and they're never presented in an overtly positive light.

>>83727307
he's practically my favorite at this point.

for the shit he's been through, that man is still able to forgive and move on with his life.

>>83727511
Pretty much, he's a decent human being.
Which is remarkable on TV these days.

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so is this /sug/, or what

have we been banned yet?

>>83722678
ok

>>83727836
possibly, i asked on an SU thread yesterday and someone said we had because hiatus

Wow is this thread still up? I swear its been on page 10 like 4 times and people keep bumping it.

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>>83727942
nice

I want to stop coming here looking for it

>>83728005
the real /sug/ thread lives in /trash/ while on hiatus, then comes back to /co/ when they are getting new episodes. if you want sug-related stuff look out in /trash/ but be warned. the board is aseparate board of /s4s/ AND is called trash for a good reason.

>>83683907

but /sug/ is just waifu shit posting, fan art, and head cannon. I've been into this since day one and I've never heard the claim that SU was the first to do anything from the fan base.

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>>83684713

>remove the audio and this show has no dialog and music!!

comeonnow.png

>>83728081
>real /sug/
>/trash/

nah nigga, all the cool people leave and live normal lives until the next eps air

/trash/sug/ is filled with disgusting dregs

I will never go back there

>>83728577
what I meant was that the main thread lives there, since many other guys try to post ir on /s4s/,and even I've seen it on /v/ and even on /pol/

>Rose: Maid of Life
>Steven: Heir of Life
>Pearl: Knight of Light
>Amethyst: Thief of Rage
>Garnet: Seer of Heart
>Ruby: Page of Heart
>Sapphire: Seer of Mind
>Peridot: Mage of Space
>Lapis: Witch of Void
>Jasper: Prince of Blood

Fusions are a mix of their component's classpects. someone else figure that shit out

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>>83730090
Why did you post this?

>>83730149
Why not?

>>83730090
I hate the fact that I wanna fug Rose Quartz, because I'd be cucking based murdercock greg and the fact that steven wouldn't be born

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>>83730090
>look these up
>some kind of homestuck autism with zero relevance

Is it me or is this the most pretentious shit ever?

Is this what Homestuck is actually about? Tons and tons of pretentious uninteresting twaddle?

>/ffg/ edition

>Rose
Maduin
>Steven
Terra Brandford
>Greg
Madonna
>Pearl
Cid Highwind
>Amethyst
Rydia
>Garnet
Sabin Rene Figaro
>Ruby
Palom
>Sapphire
Porom
>Peridot
Cid (FFIV)
>Lapis
Celes Chere
>Jasper
Beatrix Steiner

>>83730642
It was a retarded and incredibly irrelevant post but don't be a presumptuous fag with your head up your ass about it.

>>83730692
Why was that even spoilered?

>>83730642
four kids play a video game that ends the earth. Their only way out is to go inside the game, but once they do they accidentally hand a minor mini boss the strongest NPC weapon in the game.

Their fuckup cascades through time and space, trapping another group of players from another universe who beat the final boss. Meanwhile, the four kids now have to reset the game from the inside.

>>83730517
Anon, we ALL want to fug Rose Quartz. Find me a single person who doesn't

>>83724137

>They are usually weird, incompetent, psychotic caricatures

so is every female character and come on, half of the town's residents are single fathers

>>83730090
Pearl is a Knight of Hope
she lives by faith, not by fortune

>>83730178
>>83730833
I think I just realized why this behavior always accompanies autism. You see it everywhere, on every comment section and message board. It's a self validating cycle. These people can't recognize their own autism because they get increasingly defensive when they get called out. Delusion of grandeur feeds on delusion of grandeur

>>83730959
She's the one crystal gem who doesn't believe in steven

>>83730775
I'm sorry, but pretty much everything I could find relating to the 'Witch of Void' or the 'Page of Heart' or 'godtiers' was a collection of some of the most pretentious, vaguely defined wank I have ever seen.

I assumed that there was something to Homestuck, what with it being so popular and all. But it's nice to know that it's just tripe and I'm not missing out on anything.

>>83726587

>If you make friends with a lonely bitch, she'll be all up in that dick ASAP

but that is true 78% of the time

>>83731199

works with males too but the probability goes up to 85%

>>83730642
That's eventually what it devolves into, yeah.

>These class titles are like, your role in the story
>But we're not characters in a story we're so self aware lol
>Fuck fulfilling basic narrative expectations let's just end everything in a sudden unsatisfying way

>>83724137
Or maybe that's just how all the teenage characters act?

You know, being teenagers.

>>83731194
They're an incredibly OC inspiring detail of the story so of course they're going to be a fuck ton of self felating bullshit unfortunately.

>>83715679
Adventure Time really seems to be without concept at this point. They keep building up huge ideas that ultimately have no real meaning or payoff.
Can you honestly tell me what Finn's deal is with his arm anymore?
Or what the fuck the multifaceted god of Mars is about?
Things just exist or matter when convenient to whatever they want to do.

SU quite obviously builds up Steven over time and with a goal. The status quo remains manageable and the positions of characters are observable for the viewer. It's not some assholes in a giant magical wonderland doing whatever.
The characters and their history are methodically explored and changes accumulate. We don't get characters suddenly acting like a couple with no explanation or random weirdness that shows up but follows no apparent goal.
AT is an anarchic whirlwind of story threads that begin and end randomly with characters obviously changing what they are for plot convenience.
Comparatively SU is telling one story about a few characters and actions have real-time consequences. It deals not in lofty concepts of magic but weaves a narrative from the characters and their personalities colliding.

>>83731314
Ah, yes. Complication, the great bait to autism. Hiding arbitrariness behind lofty concepts the consumer can ascribe meaning to.
Not to be confused for complexity, its bigger, mature brother.
As an example of what I mean, the politics in aSoIaF is complex more than complicated. Every decision breaks down into rational, easily understood components and is not forced by esoteric means.

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>>83731983
Run that by me again? You're saying that people eat up meaningless shit that they can relate themselves to rather than trying to understand the more important complexities of a subject and its content?

Also what the fuck is aSoIaF?

>>83732095
Okay. In my experience autistic and kids latch onto shit with complicated symbolism and the pretention of depth rather than things of actual complexity.
Because actual complexity is rather boring and banal to understand. It is mundane things interacting in uninspiring ways, forming a large system.
I took aSoIaF (a Song of Ice and Fire) as an example because its diplomacy is much like actual medieval diplomacy.
Driven by petty ambition and a few pedestrian principles. Which is why none of the fans discuss succession law or politics, but flock to conspiracy theories cobbled together from cryptic allusions the author dropped.
For most fandoms people talk about meaning assigned to things, conspiracies and schemes, because those are inspiring the imagination. One reason why people are let down by reveals. They imagine a ton of vague shit, but it's always an actual thing that is less glamorous just by virtue of being real and easily understood.

One thing that is complex without being complicated is Pearl. You get her. Her problems are relatable and easy to see, yet they manifest in various ways and interact, making her a character with many layers but not something hard to understand.
What she needs is straight forward, but there are many aspects to her.
You get why she is hurt or elated by different things that relate to her history.
She is not 2deep4u.

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>start marathoning this after putting it on the backburner
>hear this guy is like the most hated person in the series
>get to the episode
>literally all he does is hit on a girl at a dance party

The fuck

>>83733635
Who?

>>83683891
You mean the show where a lesbian couple breaks up, a white girl kills a black girl and fucks her husband, and a rapist is put in a sympathetic light?