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How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #282

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Share your comic with others!
Link your website and portfolio!
Comment and critique others work!
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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.

>*-We also got a DISCORD CHAT going on, ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0 [Embed] [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/
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WIP
Working on my first few pages now. I've been planning and writing it carefully for a while and believe I have it all well put together.

First time doing all drawing, inking, and coloring in my comics. Hope to have this and my other pages done in a few days if I have enough energy after work.
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Hate webcomics
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>>83647619
whoa dude, top quality
>>83647703
i'd rather not, if you don't mind.
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Taking a break from my occult detective comic to freshen up my mind. In the meanwhile (which may turn out to be quite a LONG while), I've turned my focus on another idea I've had in mind for couple years already.

The working title's ''OUTRAGEOUS''. It's about a group of shameless internet content creators who're willing to do absolutely anything for views, money and fame. There's no line they wouldn't cross nor a boundary they couldn't break. If there's money to be made, they are already there.

I'm really excited to write this one and to really explore the morality of these people, and my own on the side. Also, diving into the fakeness of our ''media reality'' has been awesome so far. I'm not trying to demonize the media, btw-- No, I embrace it through my characters. It's a gold mine for them, so there's no time for them to get ethical about it. I leave the ethics to the reader.

It's a one twisted show, I tell you that. And the characters are the kind you love to hate, unless you're easily offended.. then you'll probably JUST hate them, period. It's a dark noir-ish comedy/ drama, that also pretends to be a little like a documentary from behind the scenes of the content creating business.
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>>83647703
Then why are you here?
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>>83647967
i'm pretty sure he was asking us to hate webcomics
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>>83647748
sounds like something the world needs to hear, but that i'm kind of tired of being reminded of. have fun!
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Reposting because I didn't realize I was 498 in the last thread.
The Sisters updated.
4 Pages.
https://tapastic.com/episode/372097
http://thesisters-comic.com/

Introductions are had. And obvious threats loom. Plus Guy's there. The weirdo.

>>83628316
Give them an opinion or base them on someone cool. Craig would be boring as fuck if he wasn't blatant Zak Bagans. He'd just be another romantic partner getting pushed aside for powers type character; likely meant to have as boring a speech as anyone whose fucked a cape on a CW show. But he's Zak Bagansy instead, so he's not like that.

Give him something to play off too. Dan and Craig play off one another despite being radically different sorts of people; so when Dan is casting disparaging remarks at Craig, Craig is asking why Dan didn't wear the T-Shirt he made him. Just two friends bashing on one another like friends do.

It isn't hard to make someone interesting. Just find that dynamic that they shine in. A fisherman might seem boring as fuck to you, but if you get him drunk and he starts talking about having once slept with a girl back in the war and he starts cracking jokes about it; suddenly he's not just some fisherman while still being a guy who fits in a sailor archetype. Flesh things out without making it feel like there's an intimidating amount of depth.

These people exist within the world for people within the world, based on interactions with people in the world. Think like that and it gets a bit easier because it is less about writing someone who appeals to audiences and more about writing friends properly.

>>83642402
That's a chill little video.

>>83647703
As an art form it is low barrier to entry and over saturated, but so are most fields. Judge them by the best and ignore the worst. People don't consider Sonic OC Fanfic when they're talking about Steinbeck.
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>>83648290
Nah, no one ''NEEDS'' to hear this. I'm not taking some grand stand with this thing. It's a story about the cruelness and ballsiness of the main characters rather than the horrors of the media and society.
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>>83635534
>>83633489

How is being positive about your own work sad? I didn't say better than anyone else. You don't know it could have been 2 comments.

No wonder feel poster has moved in. You all deserve it.
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>Pirated version of PS doesn't allow me to make text bubble because it's all sorts of fucked up
Anyone know any other ways to add em in using gimp or something? Would appreciate any help with this
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>>83650051
pirate a better version. it's not exactly hard
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>>83650123
Yeah but the whole process takes forever, and it's been too long since I've uploaded my last page
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>when you want to work on y our comic but lose all motivation when you pick up the pen
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>>83650183
well how were you doing them in the first place? photoshop has a lot of redundant tools, you could use a different one
like for example select, fill with black, go to selection - contract by however many pixels, fill with white
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Wip.

>>83647619
Sweet.
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>>83650275
I've never done them, this is my first comic, and my first page with actual text. I'll try that though
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>>83648764
I really dig the style of your comic. The slightly muted colors really help bring it down to earth too.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you just hosting your comic on tumblr? Is it worth creating a website to host a webcomic or does anyone know if you should just stick to a webcomic hosting site?
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Fuck it, tell me what you think, /hyw/:
http://wings-over-ethereal.thewebcomic.com/

I'm sick of lurking and being too scared to share. Tear my asshole apart if you have to.
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>Spend 30 minutes drawing something
>Realize it's just going to be covered by something else in the panel
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This is for Carrion Girls guy.

I had a dream where Skeggold had to combine her warrior skills with magic in a frightening and monstrous way to fight a robotic magic-hunting robot from the future. She was calling out instructions on what to do if things started going south to some girl who was not Skalmold but I believe an original character do not steal copyright my subconscious, as she headed off to fight, but then my roommate's dumb fucking dog started howling and woke me up just as it was starting to get good. That's it.
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>>83651064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Qa2J4j3_8
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>>83651090
that's why i started putting my woid bubbles in first
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>>83651694
>nobody will ever dream about my characters

fucking feelsposter has ruined it but i like posting things like that once in a while. it's meant to be envy, describing something as an honor.
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>>83651064
feel like i've stepped a lot further back in time than 8 years. But that's a good thing
shit i shouldnt criticize the art til i've skipped ahead to the current day, let's see...
oh
very little difference. well nothin wrong with that, don't fix what's not broken. i actually see you did fix one thing, early on you were drawing your eyes too high on the face, now you're not. well done.

man what ever happened to trying to tell big epic stories in webcomics? nobody does it anymore, but i feel like i used to really like them. the problem is getting really hooked when i'm just not how i used to be.. but i WANT to be like that again
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>>83650592
>Worth creating a website to host a webcomic.
Yeah. Do that if you know how. Us at the Sisters just don't know tech to save our own lives, otherwise we would in a heartbeat. But we're glad you like the style.
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>>83651799
Can't help it. I'm a sucker for edge.
>>83651990
>very little difference.
I went back and remade the old pages a few years ago. I know that's frowned upon since people tend to enjoy seeing artistic progression but it was REALLY bad. (I compromised by having a downloadable rar of the old pages available.)

Pic related is the true 2008 artwork.

>man what ever happened to trying to tell big epic stories in webcomics?
I've felt that way about lots of mediums these days, not just webcomics.
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>>83647619
That's top tier action scene right there
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My replacement tablet arrived yesterday so Ive been drawing non stop. Just finished this background for a work in progress comic.
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I'm taking forever
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>>83647619
Very nice!
There's a whole lot of the same poses and angles being repeated, though. Not a big problem in just one page, but I could see it getting a bit dull if you don't switch it up more in the long run.
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what is the key ingredient to a successful webcomic
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>>83656166
Lemon juice.
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>>83656166
fans
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>>83656166
waifus
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How do I make almost entirely flat characters interesting?
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>>83657228
how do you make shit that's not shit?
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>>83657240
there's gotta be a way.

so many real people i've met would be completely flat if you had to tell a story where they're the primary focus. nonetheless their life story as a whole, and how perfectly it fits into telling a story about the nature of our world could quite possibly be interesting.
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>>83656166
The big meme is a reliable schedule
As I don't make a webcomic or read webcomics, I cannot verify the veracity of this.
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>>83657268
give us some examples of these people to give us an idea
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>>83657282
Inconsistent update schedules are definitely a turn-off for me personally when I'm reading a new comic.

Unannounced hiatuses are worse, though.
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how do you stay motivated to keep working on your webcomics?
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post comics
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>>83657774
Recently got fired from job as a web developer. I really don't want to go back into that field, so I'm putting all my effort into my comic and hoping for some patreon bux.

don't try this at home this is a terrible idea
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>>83658293
I write smut following my unemployment last month. Good luck, dude and keep at it. I'm rooting for you. Once you're your own boss, accountability is everything. Thankfully I have a few bitcoins in case I get in a bind.
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>>83641968
Well, all the stuff I can find about depilatories in the rest of Europe seems to be from way after the viking age, and from what I can tell, while it was common in art (inspired by the Classical ideal?), its spread throughout the actual populace was much smaller (and it might have been considered shameful and low class because of its association with prostitutes, who shaved to avoid stuff like pubic lice).

Being a dark age culture, there's very little to say that the Norse didn't remove their body hair, but there's even less to say that they did. If they did so commonly, I'd expect razors to have been a common grave good for women, much like ear spoons and combs, but I'm pretty sure that isn't the case. I guess they could have used tweezers, but given the impracticality of doing so and how women wore clothing that covered up everything from the neck down so nobody would ever see anyway, I think it's more likely that the Norse just didn't care very much about hairlessness below the neck.
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>>83658293
>he got fired
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>>83658378
plus the norse were a hairy lot, have you ever seen a scandinavian girl's nipples?
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Bump.
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how do I love my comic when I can't even love myself?
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>>83657228
Make them pretty.
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>>83657774
By having so many stories planned that I'll probably die before finishing them all.
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>>83652293
oh. so sometime between 2008 and when you went back and redid the 2008 ones, you started drawing eyes too high, and then sometime between then and now you stopped again
oh well, good show
>other media
yeah youre right. i was watching CLUTCH CANYON just for a laugh, and i remembered how even back during the stupid ages of animation, there was always serious drama for some reason. except it was terrible and boring. and now we need that and nobody's doing it
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>>83654164
i choose to believe this is an out of focus near-upskirt shot
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done page for now.
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>tfw people always make fun of you're art and don't focus on the good parts
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>>83657774
i just keep drawing every day and that gives me hope that one day i will become good enough to draw something that is not going to make me gringe the next day

also it's not like i have anything else to do with my life right now

what i lack is confidence i don't know how some people can just draw a comic for years without improving the art over the years, just the thought of something like that scares me

so all i can so is keep practicing until i reach the level that i want to have
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>tfw people post stupid feels memes instead of webcomics
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>>83663143
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>>83657774
I don't really.

I'm seriously considering ritalin.
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>>83657774
$2.5k a week on patreon helps shame i only release once a month
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>>83663556
What do you do?
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>>83663574
baited
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>>83663597
Okay?
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>>83663574
draw webcomics
the dosh is for creating plushies though
non fuckable and fuckable
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Ok, I've had this joke in mind for a while now, and I am so glad that I'm able to draw it out now.

It was originally gonna filler strip, but I'm really bad at getting to those.
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>>83663618
that joke has been way overused lately
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>>83663649
I have never seen a strip talk about a frog girl eating her own eggs.
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>>83663671
harpy
snake
frog
and even for some weird reason chinchilas
its overused
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>>83663671
let me see if i can find that harpygirl image
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>>83663649
>>83663671
true, it's been way overdone with bird people, but i've never seen a frog doing it. also it's fucking cute. that stepladder. also she's supposed to be an akaname, so it's fun to be reminded she eats gross stuff.
>>83663618
5th panel you want to say 'i've been storing them'
cmon jack theyre not fertilized it's not weird.. at least i hope they aren't..
7th panel: performs* male's* and it doesn't make sense to say 'another human woman', just a human woman
9th: you're* missing an if between that and you

also yeah everyone should taste their own once..
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>>83663707
well i think the few mammals that have periods usually do lick it up, since there aint nothin else you can do with it.
then again rabbits have to eat their own first-shit in order to make it into a proper second-shit later, so animals are not good role models
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>>83656166
Lasagna
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>>83663707
Well, still there's the punchline that implies that she thought Jack, and all males, eat their own sperm.

>>83663754
Thanks typo bro.
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>have a dream about a /hyw/ comic
>post about it
>the author doesn't even acknowledge your existence
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Page 5 pencils/roughs.
Highly likely to revise some of the dialogue; any suggestions for improvements will be appreciated.

Low energy this week, so behind schedule. Last weekend was disrupted with exhibiting at a local anime con, and pre- and post-convention preparation and recovery. (Covered costs, but sales on Sunday were practically non-existent.)

Also my Wacom pen is acting up, so I've had to spend a chunk of time fighting it to get it to behave. The primary nib has come down with a case of the flickering right-clicks; I can configure it to draw with the eraser end if necessary, but still, no need.
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>just finished sending off my pitch to HW
Way too close to deadline, even though deadline is on the 15th.
I'm sure it's going to be a crazy hard ride even getting noticed since I'm a nobody and don't know anyone with a comic on there, but it motivated me to actually work on a lot of content for my webcomic.
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>>83664468
hehe, back pocket
flickering right clicks eh? i've never had a tablet pen's rightclick button on the body behave properly but i've never had issues with the nib
i see no dialogue problems, but.. oy, have fun drawing that pile of manticorpses
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Space Cunts 2

My comic is "Overfiend Comics" btw, there's a lot of stuff there but the site is shitty
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>>83664823
hehehee. god dammit i laughed. how do you even
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One more
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>>83665089
okay that's it, i'm reading your archive

oh yeahh i remember your old stuff, you linked that before didn't you
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>>83665108
I've linked two or three, a friend of mine I think might have shared it around.
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>>83665130
i definitely recall the thomas the tanked engine ones
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>>83665130
hey
hey
did you stop alt-texting part way through? because now i don't see any anymore but i wanna make sure it's not just me
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I don't have any great objections to the dialogue, but I feel like the final panels are a bit weak. Tried doodling in what I'd do differently (couldn't express it well in writing), hope you can use it.
Maybe have Fili go "wait! I found one!" in the bottom right of panel 4, so 5 just has the punchline?
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>>83665489
Yeah I forgot where and never got back to it :(
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>>83665624
no prob, i'lll just stop checking.
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>>83665608
>>83664468
I dunno, I think the joke works better when ending at Panel 6. It's already funny that the drop rate is so low; and that you know they'll have a large number of Manticores to kill, but past panel 6 I feel the joke goes on for two

>>83658293
Best of luck, Anon!

>>83657774
I feel kinda sad when I go a day without working on it; I knowing it's not even that great, it's one of the most fulfilling things I do. Plus I'm aiming for it to be a top-tier Epic Fantasy by the end, so I'm always happy to see noticeable improvement.

>>83648764
Just cough up with yours. I always feel like Sisters goes back so fast; I don't mean it as a negative, I mean that I'll always wait a month-or-two to binge read, but it's so good I'm always like "aww, done already?" by the end
>>83652052
You guys should really look up WordPress; I' technologically handicapped and even I can get a passable site from that. That said, Sisters reads really well in "scroll" format; mine does not.

>>83647619
Great to see some new people here, ESPECIALLY someone who can pull off such a great action scene

>>83657228
Large breasts are overrated anyway.
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>>83666374
>the last one
i was waiting for SOMEONE to make that joke. i couldnt think of one myself.
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>>83663611
So it really has nothing to do with webcomics.
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>>83666374
Green Knight guy, is that you?
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>>83666374
>goes by fast.
I know what you mean, and I'm sort of happy about that. We try really hard not to be meandering, and I think we only really get away with it due to our multi-page update dumps.

Where'd you last leave off and how'd you like the end of the first arc, if I can ask?

>wordpress
I tried. I did. I really ought to try again when I have a computer that isn't almost a decade old. I used to be really tech-savvy circa 2009. It is a skill I really need to get good at again, which is something I will attempt to revitalize once I can afford to build a new computer.

>large breasts are overrated.
Zing. And accurate.

>>83662378
Eeldog is cute.

>>83659809
Y'know, you manage to capture textures and exaggerated expressions to the point where I could see this as a Laika-styled stop motion piece.
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Okay, so I've fixed the font and have tried to be smarter with my speech bubbles. Anything else I should try?

https://tapastic.com/series/FrICTION

I know the line work needs some tweaking, but that's all I can think of.
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>>83666779
Ya, it's me

>>83666903
>Where'd you last leave off and how'd you like the end of the first arc, if I can ask?

Last I had read it was at the end of The Lies, right as Erin and "Connor" were about to get it on. As far as what I thought; I'm not overstating when I say I think it's the best comic in these threads (My favorite is Carrion Girls, but I'm looking at it from the perspective of someone who's perhaps not as into mythology and history as I am). As a first story arc, it really comes across something written and drawn by professionals. The top-notch character design already sets it apart, but your dialogues are so natural I could easily see this adapted into a TV drama.
Overall, the whole thing is just excellently paced: In the first three-or-so chapter, nicely start off as what fells was going to be "three magic sisters deal with the monster of the week", but from the point where Conard is revealed and onwards, things slowly start breaking down for the main character until the climax in the Truth. It feels like the sisters bit off a small piece of something MUCH bigger and I'm quite eagerly anticipating the next arc.

I know I sound like I'm fanboy-ing, but I do think your comic (along with Carrion Girls and Miss Melee to an extent) stand above the rest. What's perhaps more subconcious is that it does come across like you and your artist have a great dynamic together. You can somehow feel when the artist and the writer works rather distant from the writer, while here I don't feel that disconnect. Does your artist have a lot of input in the story, out of curiosity?
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>>83667836
I feel like your current chapter has suffered from pacing problems, like there wasn't enough time between when they got their fish forms and when they started to save the boy.
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>tfw there's a comic in /hyw/ that everybody loves but you just couldn't get into, not because of anything that you think was bad but just because it doesn't do it for you, and you feel bad for not liking it
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>>83667949
Yeah, I hear ya; looking back I was trying to have too many things happen in JUST 18 pages which I think really came down to me combining two common merrow stories into one (the merrow that escapes into the human world because all the merrow men look like monsters, and the merrows who capture human souls and leave them in cages).
And I think just adding 1 extra underwater page would have made a great deal of difference; but alas, I'll try to avoid similar problems in the next chapters
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>>83668294
pacing is so hard
i want to turn every panel into a comic, but i also want to turn every comic into a panel
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>>83667836
> Does your artist have a lot of input in the story, out of curiosity?
Tons. I clear everything with him because ultimately this is our story and he gets to suggest the changes to the drafts and ultimately he handles paneling/framing. But we've been friends for seven-ish years now, so we get one another.

We bicker like an old married couple all the time. It is that sort of relationship.

But thank you for your statements, that sort of feedback helps.
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>>83668504
>We bicker like an old married couple all the time
Well hello literally me and my artist.

I wonder if anybody gets that same vibe in >>83667836 with my comic. I hope they do, it feels like my artist and I work pretty well together.
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>>83666903
Laika? Yeah, I guess I could see that, Paranorman style. Always thought "Carrion Girls the Movie" should be a 3D thing because I love high frame rates and you'd be able to cheat more than you could with stop motion.
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>>83668702
I always imagined Carrion Girls the movie as one of those sorta-janky but with artistic charm Eastern European-style animated 2d movies.
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>>83668806
Well, I don't know much about eastern European stuff. I guess I just don't see how the style would translate well to 2D animation unless you assembled a team of digital painters who've lost their minds to do something like The Old Man And The Sea but digitally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ih1IRIRxI
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>>83669247
Painting was what I was thinking of.
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>>83665608
The layout for panel 8's much better, with the heaps of manticorpses, and the "I stopped counting" line - thanks.

I'll keep panel 7 the same, as panel 1 is a call back to the previous page, and 7 is the reversal of that. Alternative caption: "One manticore genocide later..."

>>83666374
For story purposes, I need to show the quest completion, as that wraps up that sub-section.

At this point, I've got a final 2 page quest, with 1 page leading up to it, and a 2 page wrap up written. Due to the story structure, it would be fairly simple to just keep inserting quests, but then it'd look odd on the website to see the end of the TPoPPPC story on page 10, then see pages TPoPPPC 5.5a and 5.5b after that. But then the print collections have a different running order than the chronologically published website...

>>83668294
No reason you couldn't insert an extra page if (when) you make a collected edition.


>>83667155
Comic text generally uses only bold or italic for emphasis; it's never underlined.
Plan your lettering at the pencils/layout stage, so you can keep your font sizes consistent; it looks like you have some idea of what's going to be said, but then you try and force the text into the space that's available after inking, rather than making sure there's enough room to begin with. Also, while most of the lettering is anti-aliased, some of it isn't, as with Todd's first appearance.
Looks like you're using a soft edged brush in photoshop for the linework, which is making everything grey and hazy. A hard edged brush would be better.
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>>83669706
Thanks man, I'll definitely look into it.
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Since I finally got done with some of my latest commission work I've been able to start working on animation backgrounds again. Here's some set pieces I just "Finished" for the cityscape of the gypsy array. Critique is appreciated but considering these are literally in the background of a background I wont be changing anything too drastic.
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>>83669706
If you're gonna keep panel 7 the same, I'd consider adding a panel between 7 and 8 for the "Quest complete!" box and their reaction to it. Having it separate from the reveal of just how many manticores had to die is a much better comedic rhythm, IMO.

Also, in panel 1, I think it might be a good idea to split up the caption so it's
>"We set out to find more manticores"
>image of attacking manticore
>"But mostly they found us."
Having the entire caption up front kind of spoils the joke.
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>>83647619
Toguro?
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>>83671624
No, volcanic rock guy who will appear later, since this is a fast forward moment in the beginning of the series.
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>>83647619
As far as looks and choreography go, this is awesome.

My only nitpick is the transition between panel three and four. In panel four, the guy looks like he was simply pushed back by something as opposed to having JUST been punched really fucking hard by some muscly rock man thing. Based on the way his body is sent flying in panel 3, he ought to look like he's going to land on his side or stomach.
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>>83651064
Ok m8, I'll be honest with you. A couple things: update your website layout for christ sakes. Hire somebody if you have to, cause this shit looks like it was made in the 90's.

I only skimmed some of your stuff because the artwork really turned me off, so I can't critique your writing. I just wasn't interested.

As far the as lineart goes it's passable, there are certainly worse examples on the internet that are more popular. Even if It works, you should still strive to improve; if you haven't already, go to /ic/ and read the sticky.

Your coloring is the worst offender however, it's atrocious. There's barely any color harmony going on in your pages. Worst of all, you don't add shading to the characters. If you're going to take anything from this post, I'd say that is the most important thing. Most of your backgrounds are dark, but there's no proper lighting/shading to reflect that, so your characters stick out in the worst way. You will most certainly find a wealth of info on this subject in the /ic/ sticky.

That's about all I'd say is objectively wrong with it, the rest is up to personal tastes. Study, practice, always try your best. Good luck, anon, I believe in you
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Did any of you guys "make it"?
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Feedback on these designs? they don't quite scream 'excitable teen girl' enough yet. Mally kinda does, but Lethe (on the left) doesn't enough yet.
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>>83672851
oh and i'm aware of Lethe's horrid, horrid anatomy. working on it at the moment. i just rushed this in case posting goes down again
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>>83672620
Topastic advertises with paying 2000$/month for anyone with a contract but that's probably a lie.

Even still I think there are at least a few arists who have emerged from these threads that can make a living off it. You'd probably get the same wage as a burger flipper but at least you're doing what you love.
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>>83672620
Clearly define 'make it' so the goalposts can't be moved.
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I'm still assembling a story, but I'm stuck on one stupid thing. What's a good term for people with super powers that isn't mutant, metahuman, or superhuman?
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>>83673563
Achieved
Exceller
Unleashed
Developed
Postnormal / Abnormal or maybe 'abnorm' for short
Able
Supreme
Beyonder
Overman / Overhuman
Gifted
Capable (has a cape pun in it)
Skillman
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>>83673245
All I need to make is $150 a week. I can do it.
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Today I learned that I'm too thin-skinned for critique and that I'll be forever bad.
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>>83674114
awesome, thanks!
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>>83672851
>Lethe
Is she forgetful?
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>>83674389
her mom forgot to take the pill
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>>83674171
what happened? did someone hurt your feelings today?
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>>83675414
that's just a spammer. we're lousy with 'em. just ignore. you'll get used to their same 5 or 6 images eventually
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>>83675438
Epic reply. Keep policing this dead-ass general, you're the hero we all need.
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Post comics.
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>>83675733
>working on comics
>on a FRIDAY NIGHT
are you virgins even trying to not be losers?
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>>83675818
>Not working whenever you can
Confirmed for never making it.
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>>83676144
>implying any of you will ever make it
Just play video games or watch a movie instead of toiling away on something that means nothing.
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>>83675818
lol this thread isn't really meant for people with IQs of 60, maybe you should go hit on drunk chicks or something.
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>>83647455
http://romanpenscomics.blogspot.com/


can i get a review?
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>>83676449
awful layout. i'd change it asap
comic's cute. i enjoy this kinda stuff. seems to start out in the middle of things though. little hard to follow.
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>>83676627
oh i see why, each update has multiple pages, in order from top to bottom, but the updates are in order from bottom to top
so yeah, even worse layout than it was when i said it was awful
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>tfw almost want to throw away my HW submission because the due date is close and I'm still so far
please help me find my motivation again
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>>83659809
>new carrion girls
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>>83668383
That's a nice analogy for it.
I've sad it before; if I were updating twice-thrice a week, I'd probably make every chapter twice as long just to get more world building, humor, and longer action scenes in there...
But as it stands, I don't want chapter to last much longer than 4 months-worth of updates.

>>83669706
>No reason you couldn't insert an extra page if (when) you make a collected edition.
Eh, it's a nice daydream, but there's so many more stories I want to tell I probably wouldn't even have the time
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dead thread, dead comics
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Bump!
Probably nothing worth commenting on this page right now. The composition for the 5th panel literally came to me in a dream so that's nice.

>>83679748
ohgosh.jpg
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Still no internet at home - apologies for what's effectively another drive by.

http://vigormortis.co.uk/
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New page today! What do you guys think?
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>>83682979
I think your posts could use a bit of variation.

Good page otherwise, shame the awkward hands in panel 2 are really distracting because you usually draw them well
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>>83682979
The balloon for "You missed..." isn't quite making a tangent with the panel border, but it's pretty close.
There's a line that naturally guides the eye through panel 5, going from MM's eyes and through the upper arm and middle brick work. The end of that would be a good place to move the balloon in panel 6.
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>>83682979
The rhythm of this page made me chuckle. I like how we see the moment from Jackie's point of view.

>>83683105
I don't mind the hands, even though now that you mention it, they are a bit wonky.
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>>83682979
>Jackie
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should i wait until i'm not depressed to start posting a comic?
or start early with the associated risks of stutters where i don't update and saying embarrassing things
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>>83687773
Well, your depression isn't ever really gone, so it might be better to think of it as "getting started dealing with your depression while publishing" or "think you're ok and start publishing then have it pop up in the middle of your schedule and dealing with it for the first time" then
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>>83682979
The only thing I'd change is the last panel. As a reader, I'm inclined to read her dialogue first, then her expression, THEN back to Jackie's exclamation. I'd suggest moving Jackie's dialogue to directly above her mom's head, it'll definitely flow better and it makes sense, since it'll convey how she's looking towards Jackie at the same time she hears her.

This panel is kind of tight, so moving the dialogue will be tricky, maybe you'll want to move the pov back a bit to give it room.
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>>83687773
If it's situational then you could wait. If you have chronic depression and/or mental illness I wouldn't. I've had my first OCD relapse in three years and I've had to come to terms with the fact that what I am living with is chronic and not something I can grow out of but rather live with and be prepared for. Good luck.
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>>83682979
Why would MM be surprised that her daughter, who she knows is in the car, is shouting her name? It seems more like that's something she'd actively try to ignore while she's in the zone. And the reaction she's giving doesn't really telegraph the idea that the girl is in trouble, so if that's the reveal you're going for it doesn't work here.

Also in the 3rd panel; the KRASHH panel, the boom going on doesn't seem to be large enough given how the guy is positioned and the distance from the wall/window he was just thrown out of.
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>send your comic's link to a friend to read
>your archive is a few dozen strips
>check analytics later
>only one view from him
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>>83689475
This is the first one to make me laugh out loud.
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>>83682979
if she doesn't figure it out this time then she's a dense little gymnast
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>>83666560
the plushie keeps my webcomic afloat
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What's the best way to learn how to draw? I've tried all the "how to draw" and anatomy books and Andrew Loomis but they're all for people with a skillset above mine. I can't even draw emotive stick figures.

Should I just accept that it's one of those skills I'll never have?
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>>83690281
How to draw books generally assume that you want to learn how to draw properly because you're already enjoying it.
If you're really just starting out, the best thing is to just draw a lot, so draw whatever you enjoy drawing and don't worry too much about the quality. Once you have some basic experience you can take it more seriously with books etc.
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>>83690518
The problem is that my interest isn't actually in illustration, but storytelling with sequential images.
I write. I can draft panels, sequences, perspectives, camera and text placement. Actually drawing something that doesn't look like shit is the only bit I'm missing, and I don't enjoy doing it.
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>>83690058
how do you create plushies? handmade?
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>>83690716
maybe look into 3D modeling?
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>>83690817
Eww. Have you seen the glut of terribad 3d comics out there?
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>>83690716
If you can handle perspective and the like then that doesn't sound like you're actually below the level for most how to draw books.
What are you struggeling with? Do your drawings not look as good as the examples? That's pretty normal. Or do you have trouble understanding what the author is trying to teach you?
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>>83691081
yeah i know. if they want to utilize those other skills while learning how to draw, using models to practice may help.
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anyone still working on their Hiveworks pitch? am I the last one?
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>create setting
>create character designs and vague roles
>can't actually create personalities, accurately work out how those personalities would interact, or think of individual storylines involving those characters.
don't think i'm cut out for storytelling.
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>>83692405
The deadline's in 4 days, anon. Most of us have already submitted ours.
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>>83692597
>Most of us have already submitted ours.
I feel like the last kid in class who hasn't turned in his paper. Anxiety/stress mounting, please help
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>>83692756
that's because you are the last kid you retard. hurry up or give up you lazy fuck
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>>83690716
I'm an artist who primarily draws and I can tell you that writing and layouts are the parts of the work that have the most impact. If you can draw things very well, that's great, but you only need the fundamentals to deliver a story.

Use a very simple style that you can keep consistent and it's going to work.
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>>83692534
Give us some papyrus scribbles, brother. Perhaps we can help you pander
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>>83692756
I'm also still working on my pitch document! It's okay, Anon, you're not the last one. I'm probably only going to get this submitted on the 14th. You won't even be the worst one! I am lowering the bar for everyone by submitting a literal stickman comic, you are not the Class Retard.
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>>83692756
If you turn it in on the last day, the Hiveworks boys will think less of you for it.
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>>83692992
>>83692799
can't you guys just post a soothing song or something

>>83692970
thanks friend, please submit it no earlier than the 14th so I won't be the last one
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>>83693046
>>can't you guys just post a soothing song or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k
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>>83693046
>this retard thinks I'm joking
It's perfect that you chose to chase webcomics. The low bar of entry and the successful flukes you see inspire you with false confidence. And so we get a bunch of lazy idiots, who even in the end when cornered by their own laziness, still seek some emotional out. Still looking for some last minute way to procrastinate, like some stupid song is going to matter when really you should fuck off and put the pen to the tablet. Such half hearted motivation can only create garbage.

Just kill yourself after you submit it. It's the only way anyone will care about your shitty pitch.
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>>83693217
But what if by some lucky fluke as you put it, Hiveworks accepts his comic? He won't be able to continue it when he's dead.
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>>83689017
I dunno, I think that was supposed to be the point. That Janice did not prepare for this situation. From Janice's point of view, Jackie probably became a teenage fangirl overnight -- you know, how parents forget sometimes how fast kids grow and miss obvious things. I think the scene where she wakes Jackie for school seems to imply that Jackie's interest with Miss Melee is relatively new, and Janice had not noticed it. Perhaps she really didn't realize Jackie will not stay in the car like she was supposed to, when she sees her idol kicking ass in the parking lot. Perhaps Janice thought she could just deal with the robbers unnoticed, like an addict thinks: one more shot before the grocery store.

Clearly she hasn't met her family as Miss Melee personally before, and perhaps she thought it would stay that way -- until Jackie became obsessed with superheroes.

Well, only the creators know for sure, but that's the way I see it.
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>>83693310
Laziness like that is incurable and pathetic. He should kill himself anyways.
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http://luckyhazard.thecomicseries.com/

FOUR page update! end of chapter 7!
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>tfw you get a new supporter on Patreon
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>tfw want to post comic but don't want to get bullied
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>>83693657
we'll probably bully you for posting this.
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>>83693650
>tfw someone uploads an image to /co/ at the same exact time you do and the images get swapped so a post that was meant to contain a Wojack contains something else entirely
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>>83693650
It might be me. I just found a comic through this thread today.
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>>83693657
>>83689475
>>83674171
>>83668127
>>83663951
>>83662558
>>83650263
STUPID PATHETIC FUCKING FEELS POSTER!!! I HATE YOU SO MUCH!!!

Every time I see one of these sad sack posts I go into turbo butt mad. I had enough of hearing this sad whiny shit in school, it fucking triggers me to no end. The sheer amounts of fucking whiny shits with no work ethic or drive who I see crying about shit like this day in and day out makes me want to set myself on fire.

But I won't, I'm gonna channel this rage into working on thumbnails like a fucking sane human and stop screaming on the internet about spammy shitposts
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>>83694070
>Art thread
>mad that there are whiny sack of shits
Artists are always emotional sack of shits
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>>83694070
>tfw you aren't as motivated as this guy
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>>83693712
Honestly I think Invader Zim screenshots are better than the average Wojack.
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>>83694144
Not just in the thread, I mean in my life in general. Some artists shut the fuck up and have crazy amounts of output and make tons of work, others cry and whine about how bad their art is and how they'll never get a job as the head of a cartoon studio despite the fact that their art looks like hot garbage and they never studied or focused enough in school. It's fucking atrocious.

>>83694148
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>83694070
>makes me want to set myself on fire.
THEN DO IT
WHERE'S YER DRIVE GAAAAAAAWD DAMMIT?
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>>83694070
>tfw there's more than one of you
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>>83694299
My urge to create outweighs my urge to destroy.
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>>83694320


god
dammit
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>>83694070
Not feelsposter, but someone with absolutely no work ethic or drive. Allow me to explain:
Through my life, from entering school to leaving high-school, I never had to put serious effort into anything. I was sufficiently smart that I never had to study to get good grades, and could simply coast to success on that.

Those days are over. Now, every option ahead of me requires effort. The other kids had to study, they built up work ethic because the work wasn't easy. They picked a career and worked towards it by doing the required classes, I coasted on picking classes I could pass which weren't all useless, but had no coherent end in sight. I even did Physics. - After all, I'll decide on a career later.

Well now I'm in trouble, you see, because it turns out being smart isn't worth anything without work ethic, and it turns out those kids who started off dumb developed equal intellect alongside work ethic.

So you see why I might be a little upset. I was sold the illusion that because I was smart, I would go far, when in reality luck and work ethic are far more important. I got used to tackling problems with ease, and once I find one that cannot be tackled with ease I crumble or attempt to bypass it entirely.

But where do we go back to? At what point could I have changed anything? The path I took was the rational one given the circumstances I faced. There was no need to take hard courses, I wasn't so smart that the classwork bored me to the point of becoming disruptive, nor was I just smart enough for it to be difficult. Anything that would've built work ethic would've been irrational from my perspective at the time.

I'm not bragging. This is the opposite of bragging. My starting point of being slightly smart has doomed me because now I'm 20. While most other people have had around 15 years of building work ethic, I'm 15 years behind. Now I'm waking up to find the tortoise is nearing the finish line.

So don't be mad. Take pity and ignore.
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>>83694504
>20
mother fucker now is the time to start
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>>83694504
No, fucker! I'm gonna stay mad because that's essentially where I am, too. I'm 22, a chronically depressed college dropout, and all of my friends have multiple mini comics and webcomics while I find it difficult to muster up the courage to even try and make my own work because it keeps coming out like garbage. Almost all of my friends are at CAKE right now meeting people and having fun selling their tons and tons of books and prints while I'm sitting here too depressed to move. The only upside is that I don't often complain about it, and not moving means not being able to find anything to kill myself with.

That's why I get so upset when people, perhaps even younger than me, are shitposting on here when they could be here or on /ic/ LEARNING and MAKING THINGS even if they're bad, they could have SOMETHING. And then they could build on that and be good.
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>>83694892
>they could be here or on /ic/ LEARNING and MAKING THINGS
Without willpower? How could they do that without turning to the much easier option of posting here about
>Tfw you will never make a comic and just entertain the fantasy to avoid facing down the fact you're not ever going to do anything because doing things requires doing things.
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Are there any good fan webcomics about popular characters? Not necessarily superheroes but if you know of anything like that I'd be interested.
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>>83695197
>fan webcomics
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Finally got an update ready!
I start now a two week break from work, so I'll try to use that time to get this chapter done and start the new projects I've been practising for lately.
It seems since that I announced that I will shut down the site where I currently host this, people started visiting more often, wtf.

>>83672851
Once I finish the crossover, I'll draw them for sure, they look 2cute5me
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>>83647619
good composition
Bad colors
Yu Yu Hakusho ripoff move.

Protip: If you want to make glowy energy shit and fire in photoshop.


protip: for glowy shit in photoshop gradient maps are your best friend.
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>>83695197
Hannah Blumenreich makes some good Spidey comics.
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>>83695679
Good advice. Color choices has always been a tricky thing for me.
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>>83694070
One of those wasn't even a feels poster.
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>>83695679
sorry i didn't finish the middle sentence there.

If you want to make glowy fire and stuff in photoshop just apply a gradient map to a black layer with the screen blending mode, then paint white with a pressure sensitive brush.
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>>83695888
Ok, i'll play with that.

I've wanted to do everything in Manga Studio 5 though and it's different with it's painting tools, so would it be the same method in that program too?
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>>83647455
http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=115269
http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=115270

If anybody's interested i made a couple of photorealistic pencil brushes for Manga studio/ Clip Studio Paint
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>>83696169
I have no idea. I don't even know if MS does gradient maps. Personally I'd use MS for drawing and Photoshop for coloring.
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>>83696196
forgot example image
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I couldn't sleep so I worked on something
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>>83696169
>>83696222
Yes - MS5 (Clip Studio Paint) does Gradient Maps.

Layer -> New Correction Layer -> Gradient Map
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>>83696272
Thanks, bro.
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This week we continue the cat story and then move on.
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>>83696272
>>83695679

But yeah, thanks again for the help. I'm a drawer, and not a painter, outside of just doing greyscale. I'll apply those types of tricks for futures pages, just for now I want to get used to cranking out pages in a timely pace.
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Hey /hyw/! Finally posting something to actually add content to the threads.

I finally started to come up with a few ideas that's boiled down to a bunch of short comics in the form of a series with a few characters of mine. I don't know how many stories I'll do but all of them will work on you understanding each character without relying on a sheet or anything like that. So here's a WIP of the first page of my first story: A "typical" day with a Justice League type deal with a leader who's between 7-11. They're digimon. Been on a huge 6 year digimon kick lately.

Any comments or concerns with the art?
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added more jokes in the background. Opinions?
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>>83694336
aww
>>83694504
pretty sure you're me.
you did the right thing, there was nothing else you could have done. this is your punishment for being better. just try to be satisfied in it.
>>83694434
they want attention. don't give it to them
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>>83695669
Woo more art from you is always welcome
that mom is rocking a pretty sweet mullet
>>83694892
you guys are too young to be complaining about this. burning out at 30 is a lot worse. there's still time to develop a work ethic... go on dates..
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>>83696262
aww kangaroos
>>83696394
aww cats
>>83696985
unreadably tiny, aside from compliance is happiness. which is great
reminds me of the READING IS KITTY poster from Bizarre Uprising.
the black hole one isnt as funny, i'd change it to 'aim for the stars, only by moving at interstellar speeds can you avoid the crushing inevitability of entropy'
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>>83696985
>crowley junior high
Is this lore? Will that name be important later?
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>>83698201
Yes this is lore.
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>>83698662
Tell me more.
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How are you guys outlining/storyboarding your story before putting it on paper? Ive tried writing plot points down on a piece paper. I usually ask a question like "How does X happen?" and then I jot down whatever ideas I have under it, and then see how much I could connect it with the current story progress.

What are some questions I should be asking myself when making a story? And how do you guys outline?
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>>83699002
>ask yourself questions
thaaat is smart. i need to start doing that
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>>83699002
You write a script, right?
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>>83699002

My process kind of goes like this;

>Get ideas in my head for character/panel placement
>What are people saying on this page, the next, page, etc.
>Start to write a draft/outline of the dialogue
>Preliminary thumbnails
>Fine tuning outline, turning it more into a movie-ish script
>Finalize thumbnails
>Start working on pages

Some minor things I might change on the fly, if need be. People always say that your comic script drafts should work like movie scripts, and you should think about them in that way before going into the actual pages.
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>>83697520
Thanks decided to draw another page while ink is drying
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>>83699375
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>>83699421
love some macropods
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>>83699002
>How are you guys outlining/storyboarding your story before putting it on paper?
Story structure
Chapter structure
Scene script
Page outlines
Panel outlines
Rough draft (characters, object, speech placement)
Background draft
Final illustrations
Typesetting and sound effects

>What are some questions I should be asking myself when making a story?
Ask "Would I be interested in this story if I wasn't writing it?"
If you look at it with an outsiders perspective and it doesn't compel you, rewrite.
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Almost done with the last page in this chapter. Posting a couple panels that are progressing well.
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>>83700457
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>>83700457
>>83700488
Forgot to mention that I'm looking for guest comics to run between chapters if anyone has the time.

>>83699002
I uh... actually don't have an outline. I have a complicated plan, but I typically memorize stuff rather than writing it out properly.
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>>83665624
heyyy god dammit you DID get back to it. now i've been missing them for god knows how long
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>>83702389
then you went and stopped again ya wanker
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Jumping back and forth with my two projects today, plus, been doing some more light-hearted ''ghost writing'' for a friend, I guess. At least I assume I'll stay as a ghost.

Anyway, I've been trying to figure out a slowly progressing drug addiction story line for my occult detective comic. My main character uses drugs to tap into the supernatural realms of the world, but isn't always sure if what he sees is a hallucination or something actually supernatural. It's been really fun to write him spiraling down and being confused when his own reality just doesn't hold up so well, and occasionally stabs him in the back big-time.

Also I've been playing around with an idea of him learning to become a dad for his cousin's son. I really want to throw the cousin in prison, and drop the kid on my MC's lap for a while.

I'm just so in love with my characters and the writing overall right now. That's probably why I want to take a break so bad, so I wouldn't become too blind to my own writing mistakes.

How do you guys keep your comics in check? Take breaks? Show your comics around to get feedback? Tell me. I'm an ear.
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prodgeressh

wip on page 5 so far
progress is slow because motivation is a scarce resource
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Finished this page!

Now I can finally go back to playing overwatch for the rest of the night. Never played a game so addicting since TF2.
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>>83703034
Sora keeps changing size from panel to panel again.
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>>83703294
meh, who cares about Sora?
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>>83703585
Not you!
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I am done coloring.

Now, To write dialogue and correct grammar mistakes.
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>>83702584
I almost always ask a couple friends to take a look at my pages because I'm a shutin neet whos shits all retarded, so I have a poor grasp on writing dialogue or regular people in general.

When drawing a page, or writing a larger scene, I generally complete a first draft before returning the next day to change things I was blind to the day before. I don't take extended breaks.

Don't really care about my characters beyond their roles in the story, I'm more of an atmosphere and environments guy.
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>>83703034
the silent panel adds a lot of humor for me , haha
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Gosh, You gave me hope.
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Is this a good design for a monster?
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>>83710053
could use a wacky tongue
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here's the chapter cover for Part 3 of the comic!

despite its looks, the next chapter will be slice of life-y.
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>>83657774
I just fuckin' do it. Who gives a shit if I don't wanna make a comic today. Nobody WANTS to do anything but if you've got to do something then you just DO IT.
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>>83710190
>that boat head
>that fishing hook

subtle
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>>83710053
>i can fap to this
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>>83679544
It's not that late come on man. All you need to do is a couple of pictures and a brief synopsis. You focus too much on avoiding rejection instead of having the submission be the goal itself. I'm submitting mine today, and we finished most of the submission during the past couple of days. The point is to submit your work to many places all the time and improve in the art of pitching. Also creating the pitch document helps to clarify the story for yourself as well.
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>>83711978
it's too late now to submit. They've received too many and are discarding the rest. I have insider information, so anyone still working on it is wasting their time now.
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should I publish my comic to webtoons com
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>>83713072
might as well post something from it.
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>>83713107
needs work
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>>83713248
yeah, kinda
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>>83713364
>>83713107

For future comics, you should try adding more objects to your backgrounds and improving the perspective. Right now it looks as if every room is gigantic and creepily empty.
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>>83712446
any idea how many they received>? any chance yhey might read at least sme of the late ones?
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>>83713711
That's Feelanon, anon. He's just joking. They're accepting submissions until the cut-off date and anything sent in time will be reviewed.
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>>83703034
missed her lighter colored throat in the last panel and second panel
i mainly noticed because you're doing such a good job of keeping it just right. you're keeping it below the bottom lip, regardless of what you actually do with her face. this is really key to her looking right
>>83703585
i do! or was that socratic? you mean she shrinks because nobody cares?
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>>83710053
a very interesting mix of horriffic aspects and kinda lovely ones (the eye-nose-cheek area and the hair)
the teeth in the lower jaw seem to be out of perspective based on the face shape, i think the row on the left (our right) should be skewed more off to our right as it goes back. could be wrong.
if you want it to be TRULY horrifying youll wanna do something more with the nose (maybe push it inhumanly upward and inward)
i'd say make the upper lip protrude more but i'd be horrified if you touched that beautifullly drawn thing. i fucking love it. elongated sharp incisors AND canines flanked by short teeth? that's so cool!
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>>83713858
>everyone is feelanon
I'm not saying he isn't, but how do you even know?
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>>83714225
Anon, don't be so naive, it's just some guy trying to scare the people who left it to the last minute as, you know, most people leave it to the last minute to finish their stuff. Even if it was true, just submit your shit anyway, what do you have to lose?
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>>83714225
Actually, my bad. It isn't Feelanon, it's "Webcomics are a mistake/waste." anon.
He's obvious because the content of his posts is always a rehash of the same words - "Don't do XYZ. You're wasting your time/webcomics are a mistake/get a real job."

There are LEAST those two distinctive shitposters. I actually kind of like Feelanon, because he isn't malicious.
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>>83659809
You should give the eyes a touch of reflected colour, it looks like bare digital canvas as it is.
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>>83714293
i did too for a while. now i kinda get pissed because he's stepping on my toes, making it hard to genuinely express similar feels.
i wonder if that's his long-game plan.. kinda like a jew telling antisemitic jokes pre-emptively so there's no room left for legitimate hate without it looking uncomfortably redundant. he's getting our self-pity out of the way so we cant wallow in it ourselves...
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>>83714344
reflected color?
the eyes seem to have shine on them, but what do you mean? when would eyes reflect color?
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>>83714449
Colour from the surrounds, ever so slight reflection of the environment those eyes are in.
For example: a white door will appear slightly yellow under natural light or if white light bounces off a blue wall before hitting the door, that door will appear more blue.
You may also consider how a lakes' surface reflects its surroundings, water on your eyes does the same thing, though more translucent, more water (crying etc) will reflect more clearly.
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>>83714416
Just don't use variations of that meme image? He literally always does, so it's an easy identifier.

But honestly- If you're feeling bad about your comic/art/writing/whatever, posting about it won't help fix it. Catch yourself before you do it and go actually work on the problem instead.
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>>83714344
>>83715242
Just to be clear, are you talking about the whites or the irises, here?

I already have the whites be slightly blue because of the ambient, but I guess I might have undersold it.
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>>83714449
Always. Right now they have a shadow from the eyelid and a highlight on the pupil, directly facing the light source - There should be a slightly reflection of the surrounding colour on the opposing side of the highlight/light source.

Admittedly, I'm not sure how it'd look in this hyper-cartoony style, but this is like 'Drawing eyes 101.'
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>>83714293
>tfw you only want to motivate people with your harsh interpretations of reality and people mistake your intentions for malice
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>>83715376Do you mean something like this?
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>>83715578
Yeah, exactly! It just gives them a bit more spherical depth and looks less 'stark' against the rest of the painted style.
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>>83715599
Alright, I guess revising three pages of eyes isn't that much work.
Thanks for the help!
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>>83715578
How do you work on the light? Do you use add and subtract layers? The colors look a little odd on my monitor.
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>>83715724
I just paint it with a hard brush, though sometimes I use a multiply layer (I don't know much about layers).
Odd how?
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>>83714200
She shrinks because Dewd doesn't care.
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>>83651694
>2 days after I had my Carrion Girls dream
>the author still hasn't responded
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>>83715786
shut up faggot
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>>83715786
Oh sorry, I missed that.

>>83651694
Wait, was it a robot from our future that had traveled back to the viking era to hunt down the magic? Or was Skeggöld in the modern era? Was it looking for Skeggöld or the (presumably magic) girl? What was so monstrous about the magic?
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>>83715772
Say in this case the shadow under the brow is a little too brown, looks painted on rather than a shadow.
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>>83715917
It had traveled back to the viking age to hunt down the magic, I don't know what it was looking for, and the gimmick with Skeggold involved some kind of monster form.
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Is it alright to talk about it if it is mainly a porn based comic? It kind of has a plot but there is a lot of sex and a bit of light fetish stuff.

Should I take discussion of it to /aco/?
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>>83715917
Actually now that I think about it the robot may have been time traveling to hunt down the Carrion Girls themselves.
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I wish I was better at inking. Trial and error I guess.
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>>83715927
Probably at least in part because of the bright white background. I used the same colors as in >>83659809

>>83716008
It's fine to talk about I think, but any explicit images would have to be censored or linked.

>>83715968
Skeggöld with a superpowered evil form would be interesting - I don't know if her lack of berserk tendencies would make it easier or harder for her to control it.

>>83716011
I think the future would be messed up pretty hard core if the causality/fate magic powering the valkyries was no longer around (which would also make an excellent explanation for why time travel is possible). Was the other girl a valkyrie, too?
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>>83702584
>How do you guys keep your comics in check?
Just doing fun stuff. I goof around a lot.

>Take breaks?
Breaks are important for not burning out. If drawing the comic constantly feels like a chore you're probably doing something wrong, though,
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>>83716173
Those wooden teeth are intriguing. The main design looks like that one marvel character though.
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>>83716188
>Was the other girl a valkyrie, too?
Yes, but I don't remember anything about her.

pls use this for a storyline
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>>83716237
Yeah, it's supposed to be. In the comic I'm making she's fighting villains that are parodies of DC/Marvel characters.
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Do you guys think it would be better to focus on improving my art first or just starting it already?

Here is an owl doodle as an example.
I think my art is very simplistic and needs development but the first comic I want to make is more for humor and lewd than serious plot and is something I feel I could drop easily if need be.
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>>83716282
>Do you guys think it would be better to focus on improving my art first or just starting it already?
Just start it and practice along the way. A few minutes of dedicated studying along your comic drawing should be enough for you to steadily improve.
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>>83716241
No way man, sorry.
Aside from the thematic issues with introducing stuff like robots and giving Skeggöld a super form, the existence of time travel would completely ruin the main plot of Carrion Girls.
If you're thinking in more general terms of "Skeggöld has to fight a monster", then yeah, I don't think I'll be spoiling much by saying that Skeggöld's gonna be fighting some monsters at some point.

>>83716282
There's nothing that will teach you better than doing it for real, IMO. That's not to say you should stop working on your art separately from your comic, but half of improving is spotting what needs to improve, and that's much easier when you're working towards a goal like drawing a comic.
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>>83716417
I guess I'll just have to write fanfiction then.

with a lewd ending
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>>83716422
Have fun!

Remember, you can write letters like ö with unicode even if there's no key for them on your keyboard.
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>>83716282
Looks horrible, give up.
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>>83716777
> I can't motivate myself to draw anything
> Maybe if I tell others to quit I'll feel better about myself
That's very sad, Feelanon
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>>83716928
>tfw people think you post negativity towards others when really all you do is post feels
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>>83716998
There needs to be some negativity in these threads to trim the lazy fat from your souls. How many of you are STILL working on your Hivework submissions?
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can you retards express yourself like normal human beings instead of 'feels'?
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>>83717043
But anon.. If you're in here being negative, you're not improving your own work.
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>>83717108

We can't stop feeling.
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>>83717043
Me. I'll probably get it in the 15th.
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>>83717043
Me. I'll probably get it in the 15th.
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>>83717166
If you wait to the last minute to turn it in, that will reflect poorly on you.
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>>83717043
I sent mine in yesterday. Pic related.
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>>83718026
I literally have three jobs so it's outta necessity, no laziness. 6/15 is still on time - never had a teacher give me bad marks for not turning a project in early.
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I decided to stop with the updates for a second and get with the final crossover due to this month.
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>>83718599
In the way means something very different from on the way. Gon' makes no sense since the e is silent.
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>>83718787
Noted, thx.
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>>83718026
I seriously doubt that. It only indicates that you worked on it until the last minute- not that you waited until the last minute.
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You ever tried to get your lines off from old songs. This song really got some interesting lyrics. Like "TONIGHT!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY5_2N2WRt8
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>>83718877
my dad works for HW, they said if you turned it in on the last day they're going to assume you're a procrastinator.
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>>83718135
how many pages of art like this did you send?
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>>83719405
I sent 7 pages, 1 character design sheet, 1 synopsis, 1 thumbnail sheet. There was enough room for 10 files so I figured I'd send 10 files and let them decide how much they want to look at in their process.
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>>83717043

What is this "Hivework". Will they give you money for comics?
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>>83719832
No, you become a slave to the hive, churning out comics for the corporate overlords.
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Space Cunts 3
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>>83720209
Don't be salty just because they're not interested in your comic.
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>>83719025
lmao
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>>83654671
Dude stop making same faces, it's hard to figure out who is who
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>>83718135
>>83719769

You do realize that with quality of this level you could just get your comic released at an actual publisher like image or dark horse, right?

You'd get more credibility and possibly more money than doing a webcomic. Just saying.
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>>83716777
The drawing itself or the fact I didn't ink and color it? Nevertheless I do actually appreciate the honesty. No intention of quitting drawing instead need to put more effort and time into it.
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>>83717043
I'm still working on mine, was planning on sending it today, perhaps tomorrow.
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>>83715376
for being 'drawing eyes 101' it sure is something i've never seen anyone do
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>>83716282
that's a sexy little owl there
keep it up man. simple is good
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>>83718787
more specifically, gon' is short for gonna
>>83718599
EEE terribly excited.
>>83720390
6th panel made me chortle merrily ya wanker
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>>83723644
>now that she's gonna I can do what I want
No.
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>>83723999
no i meant, that's more specifically the reason he shouldn't use gon' there
not just because you wouldn't use it for 'gone' but because you WOULD use it for a different word you actually are abbreviating.
as in 'he gon' die'
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>>83723999
That's the point of what he said, though.
Can't use "gon'" cuz it's short for "gonna" when he should be using "gone".
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>>83724062
>>83724035
Are you arguing while having the same opinion? Kek.

Final version will be fixed, you have my word.
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>>83724275
i believe we're both arguing with >>83723999 , who misunderstood
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>>83723063
Maybe, but I prefer the webcomic format.
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>>83724545
But I think he was pointing out the same mistake.

Let's level it up. We all agree gon' is a shortened "gonna" and it doesn't make sense in the sentence, right? Good.
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>get an email from your comic's only reader
>"Hey anon, I'm going to stop reading your comic, it's just not good anymore. Love, Mom"
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Man, I fuckin' hate water
Can we have a discussion about how water is the most obnoxious thing to draw? Because the last 3 chapters I've drawn have all includes a LOT of water. Good thing Chapter 7 won't...
Seriously though, I always have a hard time initially figuring out how to draw "non-solids" like water or fire. Had a bit of trouble keeping the boat size consistent when turning it on different angles...

>>83700457
>Arm Guy is back

Yay!

>>83699002
I actually draw the layouts first and then write the script. Drawing the layout first helps me make sure the pacing doesn't drag on for too long, and I'll usually tell myself "by Page X, Y must happen".

>>83696468
Looks cute so far.

>>83694504
>I'm 20

Dude, you're young enough. Your problem is that you're looking back at the past wondering where you could have done things differently instead of thinking about what you can do now.

Every day you spend looking back at your life is an extra day your peers will be ahead of you.
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>>83725284
you've done a nice job with it! the shapes are all right, at this point just maybe one more shade of blue in between the two main ones.
i actually love doing water. though it's hard, it's just so satisfying when i get it mostly right. and i fucking love drawing fire.
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>>83723090
Don't listen to him, it looks good. A little doodle like that isn't enough to properly judge your ability though. Post a finished drawing or human character if you want any meaningful advice.
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>>83723565
>"That's a sexy little owl, Ollie!"
>It was the last time him and anon spoke
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>>83725573
>and i fucking love drawing fire.
Fire's not SO bad; but mainly because for far it's just been concentrated to small corners of panels, instead of having characters surrounded by it page after page
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>>83726505
oh yeah firelight is a pain in the ass. though i'm starting to come around to it, after that one comic where i bothered to use it
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In addition to the eye thingy, I tried making things a bit more muddy, because who doesn't love watching prepubescent girls bleed to death while covered in mud.

>>83725284
Never trust gingers, that's what I always say.
That's a really nice line of action in panel 4.

The water's nice for the most part, but I feel like the underwater shot should have patches of light dark lines, rather than darker areas outlines by bright lines. All the light that's being reflected to make the lines light from above would make them look dark from below, right?
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>>83726828
>In addition to the eye thingy
You got me hyped up thinking there would be googly eyes.

I am let down.
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>>83727017
You have the power, Anon. I believe in you.
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Space Cunts 4
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FINISH!

What do you think? Did I screw up in some things?
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>>83727555
plbttt
i am binging your shit right now
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Well, the background for the opening animation is FINALLY finished. Now to work on the other two backgrounds I'll need. If anyone notices something that looks wrong feel free to tell me so I can fix it.
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>>83716190
Took me a good while to realize your picture was based on my original drawing. Slow brains.

Just curious to know why you saw all that trouble?
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>>83715365
Whites.
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>>83715578
That looks great! Like anon said, it makes the eye look like it belongs in the picture.
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>>83717137
His work is based on negativity. He _is_ improving.
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More pencils.
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WIP of the next page!

Lots of juicy plot stuff!
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>>83647496

What's wrong with GoDaddy?
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>>83732841
so many, many things.
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>>83732901

Like what?
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>>83732990
look it up for yourself. i'd do the same to refresh myself before telling you what i knew back in the years after godaddy came out
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>>83732657
woo, no grammar mistakes
also i'm finally understanding what leafy is about. jack's memory shit goes all the goddamn way back to the beginning.. damn. and sora's involved? shiiit. or rather her hat, right?
i could say a lot of shit about most of the hands in most of the panels not called #8, but surely the hand in #6 is getting redrawn, yes?
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>>83733405
Oh yeah those hands are getting redrawn.

And I don't know, I haven't revealed anything Leafy has in mind yet, but if you think you got it, then good job.
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>>83733489
i'm starting to get bits of it. i'm glad there's mysteries and shit to figure out, that's kind of a reward for the long-form storytelling format
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Both creating a character that suffers from Chrono Necrosis and practicing with drawing skulls.

Hope you guys are practicing too, some times taking a break from drawing the comic might help clear your head.
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>>83733547
cool stuff. what, he turns undead over time? or he eats time or.. what?
the tilted view looks a bit wrong, the nose socket is too far up compared to the profile view. though i think the profile view might be the one with the error, unless this is a VERY asian guy.. because face is quite flat.
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>>83733642
Just to summarize what's planned for him, he's the scholar of organisation in comic he's 125 years old, he was to die 2 months after the reality surge ( event that changed said wotld). Oldest living human being and valuable asset to any friend or foe.

Chronological Necrosis is a spatial dysfunction that causes the victim body to wither and die but the mind lives on, not to be confused with immortality the victim can still die if he's body is completely destroyed.

Destroyed is usually determined whether or not the subject can function properly is not, victim will perish...
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What's like, an easy way of lettering the comic without needing Photoshop because the thing is a total tragedy in my computer?
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>>83734185
Try Paint.NET or something similar?

http://www.getpaint.net/index.html
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>>83734185
are you the same guy as before? just fucking re-pirate a better version of it, man
or get mangastudio as it's better anyway
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Is it okay if first drafts aren't very good? I like my story and outline, but scenes themselves are gonna need tightening up.
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>>83735702
Yes, It is okay if you want to fix some mistakes and reread your comic.

Sometime, I am afraid to posted on tumblr because will see my mistakes and make fun of me.
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>>83735702
Honestly, some people's comics aren't going to be very good as final drafts either.

I'm putting together a comic right now that I know isn't very solid, but I'm doing it just so I can have something.
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Sketching some designs for the characters in my comic, about half of the cast are monster girls.

How's scarecool lady?
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>>83736591
very cute. i dig this.. it's not the same old shit
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well these backgrounds are just terrible aside from the first one
oh well, it's obvious what the focus and appeal here was
also this one was going to be twice as long, but i think this is a good cutoff point.
next time: special attacks workshop! really!
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>>83726828

Oh man, I wactually was really not sure of how to represent that; you're right that the white lines don't quite do it.
I think this image is closer to what I should aim for.

>>83735702
First draft is hardly ever the best

>>83737557
>My horns are fat
Dunno why that made me laugh
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>2 out of the 3 muchacho retardos have dropped off
So close, but the last one won't fuck off because he has a dedicated cock sucker
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>>83729299
Be careful to not crush your blacks. You lose the linework you've worked so hard on when you use actual black to shade at the bottom.
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>>83737989
also the NAACP will get on your ass
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>>83725284
Go outside and look at water, draw/paint it. Do it until you've become Poseidon, master of the tide.
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>>83738098
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>tfw draw and redraw a scene but it's not coming out right and you just throw the whole thing away
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>>83739698
Just power through without using Ctrl+z or redoing anything, even if it's terrible, and move on to the next pages. When you've done 3-5, go back to the beginning and revise/redo them in order.

You can't focus on one thing for too long without losing the 'big picture' mental image of what you want, but I think that jumping between pages at the same time is detrimental too.
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>>83737989
Alright, I'll work on an alternative. Thanks for the advice.
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>>83739698
Ah, a post that finally provides a learning experience, good job, feelsposter. That's actually a good thing. Listen to >>83739771, come back to it later.
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>>83739698
>tfw you don't know how to draw and you vicariously live the life of a creator by posting feels instead of actually learning
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>>83732657
Now Annabeth is the one who keeps changing size.

You need to work on your fundamentals.
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>>83740514
>>83739698
Would you abons be interested in a Skype-buddy to provide actual advice and encouragement?

Feelposts like these genuinely make me feel bad, man. I was like this once.
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Bumparoo
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>>83731493
watch the pillow shading, choose a light source and stick to it
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>due date is approaching
>panicking
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>tfw the thread is dead but you're on your phone and don't have any comics to post and you also don't have any wojacks to post to convey your emotions
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>>83729338
>Just curious to know why you saw all that trouble?
Just sounded like something a Jojo character would say. It was meant to be a reference in case you're confused.

What's your webcomic btw, I like your style.
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>>83716173
Galactus Ray Bill?
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Everyone says im nothing. Just like every other normie. And I should kill myself.

And it's hard reading this when I'm just in the brainstorming stage.
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>>83736790
Thanks anon.
Sketched a blue elf artist lady thingy now, just a few more to go.
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>>83742421
>pillow shading
That is a new term for me. I will have to look it up.
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Bump.
Think this is about at a stage where I can upload it without too much shame.
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>>83745979
it's interesting actually, apparently most people start doing it when trying to do realistic shading
i was lucky enough to be animu as fuck so i started with the kind of shading i saw there, which is easier to sort of.. fix, once you get how shading actually works.
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Never have shame!
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>>83743245
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>>83747290
I missed these.
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>>83694320
lol posting three of these is still pathetic desu
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>I'm so fucked up
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>>83747290
Are you doing a Cerebus fan-comic?
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Anonymous delivery for The Dewd
-Compliments,
BluTrinity Comics Publishing
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>>83748026
>vhy did i get covered up by ze title
>oh i see ze Os are on my tits haha how clever
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>>83748026
Your clown show website doesn't even have page counts listed, nor does it even bother to list if the interiors are full color or B&W.
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I need some help with a story idea co, basicly I'm writing something similar to Log Horizon, except the video game stuff comes to our world instead of us going to a video game world. My problem is I'm not sure how I could fit in player killers in a real world setting. I don't want the characters to just be able to revive after getting killed by whatever monsters or enemy hero's the main cast could encounter, so any ideas on how i could handle the concept of player killers in a real world setting?
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>>83694070
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>>83749024
i mean, real life has them. in the story they're meant to be murderbandits, right?
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>>83749024
You can't.
Once the stakes become higher than "some guy on the other side of the internet is buttmad that he lost some progress", they're no longer PK'ers.
Once the stakes are real, they become just your average garden variety psychopaths or raiders.
Closest you could get would be something like slightly-scrupulous bandits who steal all the characters' things but leave them alive when they surrender without a fight (maybe they're weakened after fighting a dangerous monster and get all the loot stolen).
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>>83749117

Yeah pretty much, so i guess i can just them as random criminals and murderors then? Looks like the answer was simpler than I thought.
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>>83749256

I like that idea as well, since i kind of want to do a light hearted story. Not really into the whole killing aspect.
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>>83749323
The most light-hearted you could get would probably be real-world ninja looting.
Like, a seemingly on the level adventurer(s) who teams up with the party to help kill a raid boss, but who then steals all the loot and runs away in the middle of the night once the fight's over. For added villainy, have him train a bunch of monsters on to the party to cover his escape.

That way, there's not really any mention of killing but you get most of the "oh my god what a dick bag" experience.
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Should I keep the gender ambiguous or should I just let it go and call it a boy?
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>>83749491

That sounds good, i thinks that pretty close to what I had in mind. Thanks for the tips guys.
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>>83749602
Last time you asked, the general consensus was that it looked 100% like a girl.
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>>83749602
>Put a shadow below his chest and call it boy.

Nah, I like characters without no genders. It gives them more personality.
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>>83749688
Don't forget the child-bearing hips.
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>>83729299
I like the overall feel from this, but same as
>>83737989 said; there's a lot of black.

The environment feels similar to BGs in Invader Zim, maybe you can use that show as a reference.
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>>83747264
God, man it's always something.
Fucking art.
Thanks for the heads up, I really appreciate it.
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>>83749688
>>83749739

It's actually not that uncommon for me to do the ">Draw a girl, call it a boy" thing
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>>83747967
Is the perspective comment meant to be sarcastic?
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>>83749665
this
>>83750245
another tip for ya mate, whenever you're having trouble thinking of how to shade something? just put yourself in the place of the sun or the lightbulb or whatever. imagine its perspective
can you see the thing? if not, it's in shadow.
if you can see a bit of it, how much? only that bit's lit up
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>>83751710
Thanks, I am trying for that, but I'll work harder at it.
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>>83750592
Is there any issue with just having the character be a girl?
Way I see it, the character is so feminine looking that there's no way you can make it ambiguous. Unless you explicitly make it a boy, everyone will assume it's a girl.
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>>83752188
No issue, really.
The ambiguity was just some cheeky thing I thought about while sketching up the character.
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Any kind of feedback is appreciated
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>>83752707
I don't really see anything wrong with it. It's wonky, but seemingly intentionally so.
The background in the upper right brown panel is a little vague, I guess.
Now that I really look at it, I guess the exact features of the moustachio'd guy seem to move around a bit.

>>83752578
You should probably just have the character be a girl, then.
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>>83749024
>how i could handle the concept of player killers in a real world setting?
To me it sounds like, you still want or have to bring them back, did I understand that right? Well, to get this out of the way first, if you want ''realism'' dead is dead, period. When someone dies, they die. BUT now to the reviving, maybe they respawn weaker, or even without their powers or equipment, or otherwise in a different form, as a new person, in a different location?

What if they respawn to some faraway land, memories completely wiped? That'd be something, but obviously you can't pull that shit over and over again, it's a one-time thing.

If I was a gamer and knew shit about actual gaming, maybe I'd come up with something better.
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>>83752707
feels somehow like Up
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>>83752707
Oddly enough I want more of that halftone texture to fill up more spots. The third panel is really nice, with that purple really popping out.
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>>83752707
I think what needs improvement the most is the backgrounds and the linework in general. Both are really sloppy.

If you take your time and pay attention to line weight and texture in your linework, you can use simple flat colors and it's going to look great.
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>>83749990
Thanks! I'll try and lighten it up with more pinks and purples. Though now that you mention Zim I can definitely see the resemblance. I was mostly inspired by Lain though, which incidentally was referenced pretty heavily in Zim.
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What are the best ways/places to advertise? I use Project Wonderful but that site seems to be too much of a baby's first advertisement site. I feel like even if I spend some decent money on advertising there the returns will be negligible.
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>>83752873
Eh I might.
Either that or avoid using "him" and "her" just for shits and giggles, I dunno, Ill think about it later.
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>>83755568
Project Wonderful is, used right, THE most cost-effective means of advertising your comic. Nothing else comes close in cost per click if you're even a little bit smart about it.
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Help with a panel? If a wizard were to snap something into his hand, would you illustrate the hand in the form of it mid snap or it after it has snapped?
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>>83756003
Mid snap, because that looks better.
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>>83756003
first one, sans potion, then the other, with the potion
if you don't have the space, just do the second
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story draft part of my Hiveworks submission. thoughts/suggestions? most concerned about flow, as story came together for me in pieces

1/8
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8/8

Going to nap, i'll take a look at your thoughts and fix it up later
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>>83755663
Really? Guess I misjudged. Any tips you're willing to share, anon?
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>>83758045
haha, he was always a dick.
>>83758067
>google glass
my siiiides
>>83758129
i can't even
>>83758146
a master of parody
>>83758168
wahahaha. actually i'm really impressed at your action ability
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>>83758323
A bit of it is trial and error. Find out what works and what doesn't. My first attempt to advertise my comic on PW was VERY messy because I really didn't know what I was doing, and I spent more money than I should have for the results I got.

If you're running an automated ad campaign, you're gonna have to spend time managing it and removing underperforming sites from consideration.

I really should write a blog post about PW ad management in general, but for now, here's a still relevant post I made about how to make a good-looking ad for PW: http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143807247566/how-to-make-a-good-project-wonderful-ad

It doesn't cover ad management and ad campaign tips but it's something. Pic related is the performance of the campaign I ran for the entire month of January which I just started back up again a few days ago, only now it's being paid for with my site's own ad revenue so this time around I'm not spending any of my own money.
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>>83758492
That's killer stuff, thanks a lot.
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>>83758492
>I should write a blog post
Please do.
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Weeeee!
Trying to take this story one page at a time, since looking ahead at all I have planned seems kind of daunting. So while there's an overarching story, I'm allowing myself to meander as I want and take liberties with exactly how I get to certain points.
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I'm falling behind schedule on my comic, but I feel like my work is getting better so I'm somewhat satisfied. I have the pencils done for a few later pages but I keep wanting to revise them.
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A tip for writing. If you get stuck at one point of the story, just skip ahead a little bit in the future to a part you already planned out. Write that part then go back to the part you were initially stuck on and insert a plot device that applies to the future part you just wrote.
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the main characters of my webcomic(after a year I decided to continue their Story...it's some random nonsense)
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>>83694504
>>83694892
hey bruhs
same age, same situation. i advise you set career goals for yourself. a while back mine was to work my first artists alley, and god damn it was one of the most motivating experiences ive had. associate with other artists, they motivate you as well. just gotta keep on truckin. if you guys have links to your work id love to check them out.
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>>83758431
Sounds like the package comes together. Finishing up the pitch tonight, feel free to drop suggestions in chat:

https://www.twitch_tv/fruitscs1
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>>83747011
that bad nigga looks like that nigga from that one gorillaz video
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>>83748026
we know thats you the dewd.
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>>83764550
Thanks, man. I feel weird posting my blog info after that pathetic rant, but you'll see my work in these threads eventually. I'm in pencils for a short comic and thumbs for another right now. Just making stuff for the sake of making stuff. Staving off the sad sack thoughts.
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>>83758045
So is this your story summary or the required thumbnails or what? are you going to include a synopsis as text as well? What else do you have in your pitch document?

You should make a pitch that gives the reader a complete understanding of the plot with a goal, obstacles and the result. You should emphasize what makes the three acts of your story.
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>>83765190
A story draft, going to bundle it with the other req.s in a PDF. I'll add a brief synopsis before the story
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>>83764592
This guy?
Yeah, I guess I see the resemblance.
The big black nose girl was inspired by traditional witches and hags (probably some WoW goblins, too), bog mummies, and albinoid rats - all I had to go on was a Old Norse name that (possibly) translates to "loomer" or "towerer" and the idea that it might be related to an older, more frightening interpretation of the valkyrie figure.
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>>83766236
Oops, THIS guy
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>tfw /hyw/ is as dead as your comic
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>>83766883
Well, time to be a critic.

Find someone that needs help.
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>>83766883
>tfw your comic takes off after you die
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>when you just fucking give up
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>>83766901
>tfw the rights get bought by Disney, who proceed to recall your spirit from its immortal slumber so you can go to book signings of the dead tree version until it becomes public domain (AKA for all of time) and you have to go on an epic adventure as a ghost lawyer to rework copyright law so you can finally pass on for good.

Anywho, how do I make it clear who's talking on a page like this? I feel like it's clear from the flow of the dialogue, myself - but then, I wrote it.
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>>83767262
Generally I think people go for colour-coded text and/or bubbles, but it might seem jarring if you've never done it before.

This is obviously still rough, but I'd make it really clear who is at the front and back of the bird in the first panel as well, and then keep the bubbles on their respective sides (so switching the ones in the second panel.)
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>>83767262
I followed it just fine. It's clear that Skeggy talks in panel 3, then the rest is all a monologue.
Situations like that is part of why I wanted to give characters somewhat different speech baloons; but from what's being said I think only a small minority of people will be confused.

If anything, the only problem I could see would be in the large panel with the Einherjar, where by itself it looks like two ravens; but again, I think it's clear from context.

I can't believe it never occured to me before, but Skeggy must hate her shift when she has to serve meat and mead to a bunch of drunken dead vikings
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>>83767353
I don't think I can switch around the dialogue in panel 2 too much, but the rest is a good point - if nothing else, I can have the speech balloons' tails twist around so they're coming out from behind the raven.

>>83767354
Yeah, my original idea was to have all the spears go through the entire height of the panel so they looked like panel borders, but it didn't work so well once I put it in perspective. Maybe I'll give one of them an extra long spear to still get the same effect, but I think just having the ravens be in different positions (first one wings up, second one wings down) will make it clear enough.

She's kind of ambivalent towards it, I think - on the one hand, she's not at all fond of having to play the sweet and charming hostess, but on the other, she's a lot more comfortable around and has an easier time relating to rowdy drunken warriors than with her new peer group of witches, non-humans and royalty.
I think in the Carrion Girls version of Valhöll and Sessrumnir, the valkyries are mostly serving mead for ceremonial purposes, with the actual servanting being done by lesser servants - maybe that's the fate of human sacrifices?
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>>83647455
>One is slowly getting done and has three pages remaining.
>Another one is being worked on with the writer and it's done so far.
>The one comic that isn't porn is being put on hold because I need money to support my habits.
So overall, not bad.
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Bumpo.
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>>83748612
I'll be sure to take a look at your company website for reference on the proper way it should be done.
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Recently swtich from micron 03/01/005 to just mainly 08/03 and a bit of 01 for hatching, inking its much faster. Post pages to see to see how it flows.

1/5
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>>83770475
Life and a day job really gets in the way. Especially having other hobby. ha.

2/5
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>>83770494
3/5
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>>83770519
4/5
I started using thicker lines in general starting this page. Still kind of cluttered, unfortunately, I wonder if I should differentitate between inside line and outside line more.
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>>83770555
5/5
Will be working on this page next, but I am considering adding a page before this one to show off them a bit more. I really like these characters, they predates my webcomics. I just added them because I feel like it.
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>>83770597
I can't not read the text in the first panel as "clanoonk".
Probably won't be a problem in the final version, but it's something to watch out for.

I'm not noticing a big difference between page 3 and 4, inking-wise.
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>>83770250
Or you could look at EVERY SINGLE OTHER COMIC BOOK PUBLISHER'S SITE. They ALL have page counts and color listings. There's a reason why they do. Can you figure it out?
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>>83767682
I really, really wish I could find an artist to work on a comic project with. I like to think that my comic ideas are pretty interesting and my writing decent. But I can't draw for shit. I wish I'd have had my resolve back in high school when it would have been relatively easy to find an artist. How did you meet your comic partner?
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>>83771240
>Falling for the dewd bait
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>>83770519
>>83770555

Your monster is awesome. AWESOME
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>>83748026
>BluTrinity Comics Publishing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrIoXJ707e4
Oh wow.
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>>83771952
>they expect to be taken seriously
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>>83748026
>west tree is part of the catalog
>book 1
>implying there's going to be more
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>>83771952
>>83772144
>>83772215

Literally the only published comics on their site are people from these threads.

Is this some sort of scam?
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>>83767262
>that face at the end
heh
as for figuring out who's talking when.. i need to put more thought into that in my own shit. i like to do big zoomed out shots for variety, so it's not always talking heads, but.. without putting literal talking heads next to the bubbles...
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>>83771240
because they're fucking conformists in a dying industry who don't want to take any risks?
who the shit cares about page count. just open it up and see if it's in color.
if it's on a website, list the page count and colorness on the website.
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>>83773396
just looks like a small publisher to me. kinda neat they're all in these threads. makes me wish my comic was in a publishable format, but i still like strips for the internets. anyway who'd want it on paper? fuck paper.
this website though, god damn i hate facebook. it keeps putting overlays up begging me to join.
and then there's this.. the expression on his face is priceless
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>>83773447
oh wait, you WERE talking about the site. yeah... the site should have that listed.
>>83773549
oh wait, i was on the facebook, not 'the site' the site. their site is actually kind of worse.
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>>83748026
>Let's Make Comic's!
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>>83748612
I think you mean clownshoe?
according to bizapedia they're a one year old company in new jersey, so..
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>>83773447
>who the shit cares about page count
The people spending money.
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>>83773708
>tfw you finally get up the courage to post your comic but the thread is autosaging
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>>83774427
i meant in person. you can just tell how thick it is.
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>>83774620
Everybody except you was talking about online stores, though.
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>>83774707
yeah, which i admitted 2 posts later.
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>>83748026

What the fuck is this shit? What type of publisher allows this? I'm not even talking about the art on the cover but the fact that the title is covering Sarah's face.

If I was a publisher, I'd reject that.

From a design standpoint this is making my eyes bleed. Where's the consultation and the help that should be provided? The state of the comic should be equally important to the publisher as the wrtier/artist because this is the publisher's integrity.

It's printed, not even digital. Why, why, why?
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>>83774775
it's also covering her bewbs.
what do you mean digital?
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>>83774775
When you're self-publishing, the give you exactly what you order. It'd be outrageous and ridiculous if they refused, just because they don't agree with your choices.

Of course outside self-publishing, this wouldn't fly.
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>>83774775
It is essentially a vanity press, let the spaz waste his money.
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>>83774892
This isn't self publishing, though. This is a proper publisher, who has people under contract, and goes to conventions selling books and those people get cuts of the profits.
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>>83774974
yeah. there's no shame in being small-time. everyone's gotta start somewhere. like if you're a first time actor and you're only appearing in crummy local theater, ads for the hardware store down the street, or a background extra in a koolaid commercial. your agent probably represents people that do that, and gives them the best shot they can.
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>>83748026
So... is Dewd paying these prints proofreading for you guys?
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make a new thread now
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>>83775034
see >>83773708
proper spelling and grammar hasn't been a requirement of professional endeavors in years. even the associated press
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>>83775611
>o-other people do it poorly too!!!
Not an excuse.
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>>83775639
that post was comiserating, not defending
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someone go ahead and make a new thread
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Not sure if this dialogue is actually bad or if I've just been staring at it for too long.
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>>83775825
dude, we're on page 10
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>>83775854
You can still be on topic on page 10.
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