JSA Storytime: Suicide Squad

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>>83615642
SO: what was good, what sucked, and why, today

I read Wondy and was kind of "okay"

>>83615642
Hello Storyteller.

That cover is ... something.

>Apokolips Now
That pun is almost certainly the deadest horse in the 4th World's history.

>>83615711
The only good Rebirth one shots were the Johns one, Green Arrow, and Aquaman.

I said it in one of the storytimes but they mostly feel like the DCYou previews.

>>83615711
I didn't read Action or 'Tec, but I liked Aquaman, Flash, and Wondy enough. None of those 3 I'd call bad
Tho the Flash artist needs a new inker and to not draw people with crossed arms

Vision was kinda sad today
Her phasing up through the ground from the boy's grave was so creepy

>>83615711
All the Rebirth stuff is very much about saying here is the character and it's just meh. I get they want to explain everything for this do-over but if you're a long-term fan you want to read something showing the character is like you want, not a long illustrated narration where they tell you they are.

Nothing has had much of a good hook so far.

>>83615711

I was so mad about Wondy seeming to do another "wipe it all away clean slate for her" again. And that lettering made it unreadable. I'll give the first Scott issue a try but...

Flash was more fanservice so I loved it. Art is growing on me and the writer seems to like and get the Flash family so I'm optimistic.

New Avengers was a lot of place setting for the new arc.

Vision is still the best book.

i haven't read anything else yet

>>83615711
It was basically just meta posturing and some setup, but I'm still looking forward to his proper run

Flash was alright, kind of clunky in a few places. Aquaman was pretty much just exposition on "who is Aquaman and what does he do" but it had qt Mera so I will give it a pass

>>83615750
>I said it in one of the storytimes but they mostly feel like the DCYou previews.
shit that's exactly how they feel, like extended previews. I'm going to hold off on real judgement until I see the actual #1s

>>83615711
>I read Wondy and was kind of "okay"
It's very obviously just set up. Though I kinda dig the implication that Rucka's going to make the constantly shifting continuity a part of the mythos.

Also, I'm a little disappointed that I was apparently the only one to notice the spoofing of Finch face on this page. >>83594752

>>83615786
Also that WW issue could have tapped much weirder backstory stuff from her long history rather than Rucka immediately throwing out what he didn't like about recent runs.
>My name is Diana and I... work at a fast food joint?

>>83615711
The Vision was great as usual.

Thunderbolts was bad but better than expected I guess

>>83615798
I think people are overreacting about the WW stuff. I think he'll likely only fix the Amazons.

>>83615842
Thunderbolts has some neat character beats in both this issue and the first one, but as a whole it just isn't good.

>>83615711
favorite Rebirth issue of today.
Flash > Wonder Woman > Aquaman > Detective >>>>>>> Action Comics

Also Sheriff > Vision > rest of the stuff

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>>83615711
this art is great

>>83615842
Yeah I think people are overreacting to WW, a lot of it was left ambiguous. Nothing really struck me as clearly being "FUCK AZZ, HIS SHIT'S ALL GONE" like I have seen some folks saying

although even if he was doing that it's par for the course for the character, welcome to Wonder Woman bitches

>>83615842

i'm worried about throwing out the baby with the bathwater i guess? But stuff like crushing Ares helmet just felt like vindictively angry at nu52/Azz Wondy

>>83615816

i expected more superboy prime jokes

>>83615727
>That pun is almost certainly the deadest horse in the 4th World's history.
You're wrong because they made a much worse Out of the Silent Planet one right after >>83615711

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>>83615862
I didn't read Thunderbolts yet but I gather the letters in the back are all ZOMG BUCKY?

I didn't read Flash, either--was it di Giandomenico on art?

Another week, another chance for DC Comics to reprint their Rebirth line. They only came out today…

Action Comics #957, Aquaman Rebirth #1, Flash Rebirth #1, Wonder Woman Rebirth #1 and Detective Comics #934.

Look for them all on the 6th July. They will all feature the original cover but with a recoloured Rebirth banner. Maybe something like this…

I've been gone for three months because I couldn't afford internet.

What did I miss?

>>83615862
>>83615902
Yeah it's really good. Those up-close face shots, and the use of the bars, really gives everything this skewed mad vibe.

>>83615711
New Avengers still having tons of fun and doing more with CWII than the main book ever will.

Wondy is very much the same reaction for me, but damn, some people are really assuming Greg's gonna throw everything out, when it's almost certainly mostly going to be the Amazon backstory to get the most drastic change.

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>>83615902
This kinda summed up Wondy for me:

https://twitter.com/DavidUzumeri/status/740568817626054656

As in: I get what he's doing, but I would have worked to find a more clever and lively narrative way to do it, I guess, even though I've seen people really happy with his Diana voice.

>>83615930
Ummm: we finished LOSH, and we read this really great run on Captain Atom.

>>83615902
>I gather the letters in the back are all ZOMG BUCKY?
most of them were, it's pretty clear he's the main draw for the book

also one letter was literally "can Bucky and Steve kiss?" why on earth did that get printed

>I didn't read Flash, either--was it di Giandomenico on art?
yep

>>83615930
Captain Atom.

>>83615950
Was that the Greg Weismann run? Fuck.

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>>83615957
It's not always pretty, but I usually like his art, so I'll give it a look in a bit.

>>83615972
Yeah, Bates/Weisman. Which means further reading is going to be "How did everyone else fuck up everything good about that run", alas.

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RIP

>>83615861
'Tec was way worse than Action but this place has an irrational hateboner for Jurgens so I shouldn't really expect otherwise.

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>>83616010

>>83616010
>the chest piece separates

ok

>>83615902
>I gather the letters in the back are all ZOMG BUCKY?

Yeah, pretty much. >>83598896
Even one that was clearly #givecaptainamericaaboyfriendthatisbucky

>>83616004
I didn't mind the art on Flash but the story basically just retold the Johns issue from Barry's perspective. Not bad but I read it already, you know?

>>83616004
>I see you believe random mystic bullshit
>I too believe random mystic bullshit
>let us culturally appropriate each other TO THE DEATH

Oh, also, there's that whole "Captain America #2 gets massive pre-orders", but that's comic shop buying, not actual sales, and I don't think that buzz can last. Turning up the hate machine gets a boost, but it almost never actually nets new readers in any significance, even for an entire arc.

Also, I really, really think the entirety of Marvel and Nick Spencer included has underestimated how much both this twist promotion and Steve in specific are going to eat into Sam's sales.

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>>83616004
This is muh Poison Ivy

>>83616030
how was Action? And how was Tec, was it the expected Batfam extravaganza?

What exactly was so great about Action?

>>83616030
It's not irrational. He's literally shitting on Superman and people are accepting it just because they're told it's the one from the continuity they liked despite him acting completely different.

>>83615884
>>83615895
>all those Azz-fag tears
People got absurdly angry at the helmet being crushed. Never mind that Diana herself says she shouldn't be able to do that, and it's the first indicator that something's wrong.

Not even really sure why that was such a big deal. Absolutely nobody did anything with the God of War thing anyway, so even if it got erased, it'd be no loss.

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>>83615727
Kirby homage.

>>83616076
'Tec was just ok in my opinion

I don't care about the batfam that much and was more curious to see how Tynion wrote them
Though I've been seeing mixed opinions on it

>>83616098
A lot of people liked Azz's Warbro self-insert.

>>83616052

Giving Cap a boyfriend who's not Bucky is rising on my list of "What I'll do if I ever get to big 2"

>>83616064

I wish Spencer had done more "You know you can always read about the not HYDRA Captain America" trolling.

I think the buzz is working though we'll see in a few months.

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>>83616076
>>83616052
christ, why would you print that

>>83616098
Really, there is so much that there was just absolutely nothing done with from that run. God of War shit was clumsily tossed around, co-existing with the Manazons was a fucking Finch nightmare and even Azz's handling of that was last minute glossing over shit, just lots and lots of potential that ended up sitting around like a wet fart. Like being permanently trapped in a prologue.

>>83616004
Why isn't there a Ravan: Mongoose Against Kobra miniseries?

It practically writes itself. It's basically one of those issues where Larry Hama'd have Snake Eyes do a solo commando run against Cobra.

>>83616076
Detective was just introducing the readers to Kate, Tim, Steph and Cass basically. Not bad but nothing particularly interesting happened.

The ending seemed to imply Arkham Knight is the villain? Or at least someone with his exact same shtick.

Why are people surprised Cucka doesn't give a flying fuck about previous run and just wants to write "his Wondy." He pulled that shit when he took over after Jimenez as well. Ignored pretty much everything that came before which I think was a better run. There's a reason Wonder Woman comics don't work and it's essentially this, no writer respects the work of previous one enough and there isn't enough consistency.

>>83616138
Ravan is a crap Thuggee. No yellow strangling scarf, no freaky Kali imagery.

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>>83616128
huh, what IS it about the Wondy lettering, but I don't really like it either. The Dr. Fate lettering is also a bit off standard somehow.

>>83616032
That skirt really could stand to be a touch longer, but hey hey, Gold is back.

>>83616052
>>83616128

it's like you don't remember the "Will Darkhawk get to satisfy his long established lust for big beautiful women in Avengers Arena" letter

>>83616146

Legion

>>83616172
Wondy's lettering was very Blambot-y.

>>83615711
Kaijumax was good, as always.

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>>83616138
Because we don't get to have cool shit like that

>>83616181
I skipped everything about Arena, dude

>>83616172
MEGA ROD

>>83616098
>Never mind that Diana herself says she shouldn't be able to do that, and it's the first indicator that something's wrong.
This

It wasn't saying FUCK AZZ'S ARES AND THE GOD OF WAR!, it was saying she shouldn't have been able to do that and something is clearly fucked up

>>83616172
>what IS it about the Wondy lettering
it's oddly placed and the font itself resembles comic sans a little too much for comfort?

also unrelated, but the Sugar & Spike story was great today

>>83616176
I wish they keep new 52 tiara.

>>83616032
So many people were mad over that, even though there have been previewed covers featuring that outfit for months, and it honestly being a better costume.

>>83616172

i'm going crazy that no one is mentioning it.

>>83616208

it was hilarious and in issue 1, so i thought it might've been seen in the wild.

>>83616076
>This is muh Poison Ivy
Bondage Queen radfem ecoterrorist?

>>83616222
"Truth is the first casualty of War" was repeated several times and one of the upcoming covers has a very evil looking Ares.

>>83616030
Superman was a retard and if you think about it comic doesn't have an actual plot. Dialogues are awful, voices are awful. Also I found art in Tec better but I'm simultaneously pissed off that Eddy Barrows is wasted there.

>>83616125
Maybe they should try reading Rucka's first run, so they'll realize that he'd like that take on Ares, as it's quite similar to his own.

>>83616161
>"Writer's should never try anything new, and all comics should be exactly the same."
Uh huh.

>>83616250

i kept waiting for the lasso to explode or something

I've seen a lot of Tim and Cassfags bitching about Tec, I guess Batwoman got to boss them around or something

>>83616258
At least Barrows is too slow to do the third arc

IIRC 'Tec is the first book confirmed to have a fill in writer and artist? After the second arc, I think.

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>>83616236
Or this

>>83616077
Sex Luthor

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>>83616222
Oh shit I totally forgot about S&S

brb

I'm basically hoping that Rucka puts things on an even keel, we get a nice story, and there's shit that's usable and that whoever comes next doesn't get allowed to retcon at will but is required to write a contrasting run.

>>83616249
she's not actually a radfem, Waller calls her on her 'feminism' explicitly

>>83616161
New fans who think Azz is the definitive Wondie run consider an accurate Wondie sacrilege.

Azz WW may as well have been called Wonder Woman Earth One in how much it threw out in favor of a somewhat edgy new interpretation.

Rucka Wondie isn't "his" Wondie, it's how she's fucking been for decades.

>>83615711
Wacky Raceland was fun, but nearly crippled with bad art.
I say nearly because it could still overcome that if it plays it cool in the next few issues.

Also, I have a plane to catch.
Hope to catch these threads next month.

>>83616281
Yeah some Timfags got mad in the storytime thread because Kate tried telling him what to do

>>83616172
Am I the only person who really doesn't notice lettering or fonts?

>>83615711
Thunderbolts continues to be crap, and the letters page was just people going on about Bucky, which makes me sad.

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>>83616294
>Ben's face

>>83616330
LOL

>>83616330
Bitch was a marine.

>>83616315
They also made a critical error by introducing such a large cast in an unfamiliar world with nonlinear storytelling. Someone ran it in chronological order and it read better.

>>83616413
I'll do my own chronological order when the second issue comes out.

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>>83616364
I didn't even read it yet, but I skimmed the storytime for comments and saw those about the letters, which are basically my worst case scenario

also, fucking Inhumans, no way that's not being dictated by Editorial

>>83616364
Movies were a mistake.

Edge of Oblivion was pretty shit

They finally gave some attention to a few alien lanterns for a few panels who were either new or background fodder, as they died! Guy said a lot of cliche shit! Baz was like "hey maybe this giant tear in space is how to get home???" and nobody else listened, then it had a total non-ending. it also ignored literally everything Lost Army brought up which I now assume will never be resolved, it didn't do anything to answer the mystery of how the GLC ended up in the dead fucking universe anyway, it basically accomplished nothing except having a GLC book on the stands for a few months

Fuck you Taylor

>>83616413
Writers should definitely take note: If your story reads just as well, or better chronologically, bite the bullet and fix it.

>>83616281
Yeah that's why.

You now remember how Tim wasn't even the leader of his group of friends for the longest time so it's not like he should be bossing Batwoman around, lol.

>>83616447
Oh what's happening with the Inhumans now? I just can't even pay attention to them lately.

>>83616349
Yes, you philistine.

>>83616380

I thought she left before like graduating West Point because of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

love that that part of her backstory will become more and more anacronist as time goes on

>>83616447

well makes sense, T-Bolts did destroy a bunch of cocoons

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>>83616447
>>83616465
Nothing will ever demonstrate that like that Wilson E2 FE issue

>>83616465
I wonder if the could fix it in trade.
All they need to do is move 2 panels and the rest is just pages.

>>83616128
>christ, why would you print that
Responding to trending tweets for that CNN grade populism?

I wouldn't have as an editor.

Man, every fucking Doctor Light page is just a fucking mind dagger right to the hate centers over Doctor Rape.

>>83616447
>Duchess has been faking being single-minded all this time for her keikaku
She's truly a top tier waifu.

>>83616460
Does Taylor have any DC books coming up after that's finished?

Cause I think he has a marvel book or two but I don't want him to go back to DC...

>>83616468
Like, go on about Tim all you want but Kate's an aggressive woman in her mid to late 20s with army service in her history, it's entirely within her character to boss around a babyfaced teenager, prodigy or otherwise.

>>83616300
>Rucka Wondie isn't "his" Wondie, it's how she's fucking been for decades.
This. But good luck trying to tell that to a casual. They will immediately stick their fingers in their ears and say "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. LA LA LA."

>>83616367
>El Tigre Negro
HA! Amanda, pls.

>>83616473
They were shoehorned into yet another book, Thunderbolts this time. Fucking shithumans, so fucking sick of them.

>>83616473

the cliffhanger for thunderbolts is Crystal and her team showing up all "The fuck did you guys do?!?!?"

>>83616300
She literally changes her schtick every time a writer takes over famalam. I've read Perez, WML, Jimenez, Rucka and Simone. This is Rucka doing what he wants to do. Know what? When Snyder takes over her schtick will change again. There's never enough consistency and all world building and setup goes into trash.

>>83616513
Yeah Kate wouldn't take too kindly to a gross teenage boy telling her what to do.

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>>83616488
>he's watching Hogan's Heroes

>>83616473
I didn't even know they were still fucking pushing the Inhumans. They really should have waited till their movie at least had a teaser before starting that.

>>83616484
It's really anachronistic, but it's kinda important and I don't want it to go away. It was real life.

>>83616367
>couldn't think of the Spanish word for "bronze"
>it's literally "bronce"

>>83616505
>Does Taylor have any DC books coming up after that's finished?
I hope not

>>83616513
I've seen a few people going "Who does Kate think she is trying to lead seasoned Batfam members like Tim and Cass???"

I think she's a grown ass woman and Tim is a little bitch and Cass is quite possibly the most overrated Batfam character, and that's saying a lot

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>>83616547
Werner is total villain husbando

also, hits you in all the feels

>>83616168
These are things that could be fixed in a solo miniseries.

>>83616559

yeah, it's still a very poweful story

it's more of a problem like Frank in 'nam

>>83616547
>Boomerang watches Skippy the Kangaroo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_agtNKbgSfI

>>83616518
>different runs are different from each other
Oh no, how awful.

>>83616518
Hey, some things'll probably stay I don't want, some things'll probably change I don't want, but that amazon backstory absolutely fucking has to go, regardless of the "new writer throws out everything old" trend.

Made the island and everybody on it just about damn near impossible to work convincingly into her cast. Big goddamn albatross around the neck.

>>83616590
>Cass
>seasoned Batfam member
Nigger what, she was introduced like just a few months ago.

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>>83616600
Hey, New 52 black dude Eiling is in the Firestorm book

he's just kind of an asshole, though

Lashina's costume is pure amazing

>>83616590
God, Kate gets ZERO credit for being an adult most of the time. She's an adult in a sea of children, and nobody really has the edge on having more or less psychosis. They're all crazy, but at least she's over eighteen.

>>83616208
When does Shade go VERTIGO? Is it as a result of something in this series? I feel like we're getting close to when his book started.

>I skipped everything about Arena, dude
Why didn't everybody?

>>83616668

Waller real quick on the draw there

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>>83616674
That's something I've always liked about her--she's a goddamn grownup

Also, I hear Maggie's back in Metropolis now?

>>83616684
>Why didn't everybody?
Brevoort was right about "pissing readers off sells"

>>83616668
So if this is supposed to be the same universe as before, just with 10 years less, how come some people had their races changed? Is that a part of the "darkening" of the DCU or do they all just happen to be cousins of the original characters.

>>83616590
>>83616674
Seriously, it's just as simple as "Who does Kate think she is? The only one old enough to rent a car and drink, that's who."

You may not like it, but everything about her makes sense to take charge when hanging around a bunch of teenage vigilantes.

>>83616668
I very much like this scene. Rightfully, there's no Badass With A Gun moment when you're dealing with a Fury or a New God. If you're a normie, they're going to have their way with you.

except fucking kanto

>>83616601
You gonna give him an urumi and garima mahasiddhi and nagastra too? Cause I'd go for that.

>>83616684
>When does Shade go VERTIGO? Is it as a result of something in this series?
1990, and no.

>>83616674
I know right

>there will never be a team up of adult batfam members
>they will always get split into "robins" and "batgirls" and "others"
>no Bruce, Dick, Kate, Helena, David team up

Not including Barbara cause she's basically a teenage girl now, and Luke still sucks

>>83616225
Yeah, it was simpler and a bit nicer looking for it.

>>83616684
July 1990. This issue was September '89, for reference.

>>83616713
>Also, I hear Maggie's back in Metropolis now?
yeah, I believe so

I hope she stays there, Gotham doesn't deserve to bogart all the characters

>>83616713
Yep. Metroplolis is allowed to have lesbians again.

>>83616713

and she's probably gonna be on Supergirl

Snapper Carr too which i am hype af about

>>83616713
>Also, I hear Maggie's back in Metropolis now?
Yeah, in the Rebirth Special. She was one of the cops questioning Imra.

>>83616760
>>83616783
RENEE WHEN

>>83616720
>>83616668
Yeah, this comic has treated the New Gods pretty well. I really like the Furies - just a lot of good things to say about them. Great and weird and different designs, different physical appearances, huge range of abilities and shticks, lots of backstabbing, ambition, intra-service rivalry even. They're a great villain group.

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>>83616713
omg that Evely Hal

omg

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>>83616745
RIP

>>83616635
>different runs are different from each other
Yes because that's what I said, nice observation.
>>83616639
Oh I'm not a Azzarello fan and I want shit to go, I'm just making a comment that people are surprised even though he literally pulled this shit years ago as well. I just hope there's a good enough foundation set and Rucka doesn't go full retard with his ocs that nobody after him will bother using.

>>83616518
Her supporting cast and concept may change, but most of those writers kept her character intact, because believe it or not they actually did research the preceding runs. Not that Azzarello threw out all her characterization, but if he did understand it very little of it showed.

The idea that every writer tries to reinvent her is a myth, IMO. They give her a new supporting cast but everything else is pretty similar. Rucka's run was a breath of fresh air for not just making everything about mythology.

>>83616515
I think people want to be able to point to one OGN or run and say "That's [character]", and that everything else should be exactly like that. Batman has it with TDKR, Superman has it with All-Star (as much as I think both of those are very far from what the characters are really about), and since a lot of people jumped on with N52 they want Azz Wondie to be that for her. And some people want Perez Wondie to be that. But a character isn't one interpretation, they're the culmination of everything they've been in over the decades.

How about that E2 reboot set-up?

>>83616294
>she's not actually a radfem, Waller calls her on her 'feminism' explicitly

She's at the very least a Poison Ivy chauvinist.

>>83616795
Renee showed up in Manabooch's Detective run.

>>83616735
>david, helena, and kate are never going to kick it and bitch out over beers with dick giving them the "c'mon, guys"
I MISS YOU SO MUCH, DAVID

>>83616815
He's fucking adorable, right?

Also I am beyond thrilled to see Itty's kids

>>83616837
bring back Al, kill Dick

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>>83616718
Eiling got changed up when the New 52 launch Captain Atom was basically "Dr. Manhattan adventures", and I guess they've kept him looking like that because why not

god, who knows how to work out some of the ones where they're really, really different now

>>83616828
Azz got the fierce compassion part pretty solid

>>83616367
I am going to be mildly disappointed if El Tigre Negro doesn't wear a Luchador Mask.

>>83616824
My wants for Rucka run are getting a solid supporting cast and good villains, developing the island as an actual culture with actual people on it, some goddamn fucking on panel amazon lesbians, and hope against hope, Diana gets an in-canon gay love interest.

>>83616880

>god, who knows how to work out some of the ones where they're really, really different now

dr Manhattan did it

>>83616902
Eh.
I hope Rucka does something good with Steve.
He's been on covers and I hope they get something cooking.

>>83616902
>some goddamn fucking on panel amazon lesbians
IO WHEN

>>83616858
In retrospect I think a lot of Batwing could be better handled, but I really do miss David as a character so fucking much.

>>83616858
I'm still mad about David and how wasted Luke is

He was literally nothing in the Batgirl run and would just disappear whenever anything actually happened

>>83616380
So was Randy Orton. You think Tim would let himself get bossed around by a pro wrestler?

I'm just hoping/wondering I can get away with only reading the Nicola Scott issues

>>83616969
If he knows what's good for him

>>83616928
I want Steve to be a male damsel again. Cushy office job in the army, always getting into trouble.

I realize everyone but me hates that, though.

>>83616902
>Diana gets an in-canon gay love interest.
This needs to happen. I doubt it will though.

>>83616982
well it sounds like Scott's issues will be their own separate arc but they'll intertwine with Sharp's issues

>>83616989
mansel in distress Steve a best

>>83616989
I would kill for Steve basically getting a boner for being rescued by a tall powerful woman, like he did in BATB.

>>83616828
>I think people want to be able to point to one OGN or run and say "That's [character]", and that everything else should be exactly like that.
That's stupid, and leads to stagnation. If everyone does the same thing over and over, it gets boring.

>but most of those writers kept her character intact
This. Even with different interpretations, usually, the core of who she is is still there.

Much as I absolutely loathe to give anything vaguely resembling credit to Finch, she did at least portray Diana as a sweet and loving person. The problem was that she also came off as an idiot who doesn't act like a damn adult.

>>83616902
Nigga that's gay.

>>83616989
Nah, I'd love that.
I mean, I'd also like him getting intto the shit too.

>>83616948
Sure. Thing is, if there's been a new Batcharacter who's had actual good story potential in the past five or so years, it's him. We have all these rejects like Harper and her brother, Duke (nothing personal, kid), Luke...

David leaving the Batfam because he had Real Work to do was really poignant for a lot of reasons.

>>83616858
>Bruce will never sit in the corner mumbling to himself while those three bitch and Dick tries to have fun conversation
>no Kate and Dick being each other's wingmen
>no Dick and Helena sexual tension
>no Dick bullying Bruce and David

;_;

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>>83616880
oh my god Keith

that Itty plot

what

You know, I have to think that we're responsible for this, because we asked JMD on Twitter for Itty, and he was all "What's that?"

>>83617015

i've convinced myself of the /co/nspiracy he's just using his earth one script

>>83616447
Why the hell does Flo want to get shot at that badly? Pure jealousy over Vixen?
Does she even have any appropriate combat skills?
Is Babs encouraging this crap because inappropriately going out against crime worked out mostly well for her?

>>83617042
It would really be a hell of a thing for him to come back and just be "I respect what you're doing and your ideals, but of course I'm killing people, because I'm fighting war criminals, not bank robbers and shit."

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>>83617078
Flo's incredibly jealous and feels useless, but unlike Fixer being stuck at Thunderbolts Tower, she IS useless on a mission.

>>83616720
>If you're a normie, they're going to have their way with you.

Dan Turpin is disappointed in you.

>>83617089

yeah but you can't bring that kinda stuff into batman cause it kinda breaks him

>>83617078
Desperation to prove herself and be useful. It's a powerful thing, especially when everyone else around you seems to be more helpful than you are, at least in your eyes.

>>83616547
>Oi ya gonna rape dat unconscious abo?
>Gimme a taste and i dont say nothin'!

Oh Boomer, you always class the place up and make us smile.

>>83616902
>some goddamn fucking on panel amazon lesbians, and hope against hope, Diana gets an in-canon gay love interest
If the collective hunch is correct, and Artemis and Aleka are indeed the same person... I mean, the set up is already there. And this is Rucka, so no way my girl Io isn't going to show up.

>>83617068
I mean, it's not like Keith would have remembered a handful of obscure GL facts off the top of his head, yes? He'd have had to read that one Quarterly to get the story of Itty meeting up with another of his race and having offspring

it's definitely thanks to us

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>>83617109
we're fucked

>>83617109
>>83617109
Actually she's stopped going berserk.

>>83617021
Yeah that BATB opener was great

Though I guess the whole show was great too

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>>83617163
BEST. COVER. EVER.

>>83615711
Sheriff of Babylon was pure Comickino.

>>83617211

YEP

>>83617211
this one is even better than the Batman one

Can't Stall The Wall!

>>83617225
man I need to get caught up on that

>>83616989
>>83617015
If those covers are to be believed, Steve's going to have a nice big part in upcoming issues. And the art makes him beefy as fuck. I think that may be a bit of pandering, honestly.

>>83617021
That was easily the best cold open of that entire show.

>>83617211
OMFG

>>83617258
>And the art makes him beefy as fuck. I think that may be a bit of pandering, honestly.
Nicola Scott, drawing beefcake? Never!

>>83617208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfxWYIHpK7A

I miss the show some much

>>83617211
>Two old fat women fighting

And yet it is completely fucking amazing and exactly what I always wanted to see, because I know exactly who those psychos are

>>83617238
King's best work and nobody actually reads that. I hope it sells well when people realize that writer of Batman is writing this shit too.

>>83616453
amen

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>>83617211

>>83617306

When I bought Vision today the LCS guy very subtly dropped that King was also doing Batman and i was like "..oh that sounds....nice"

>>83617306
Vertigo books tend to be good long term trade sellers, don't they?

I've been buying Sheriff digitally but I'm a few issues behind

>>83617306
>Sheriff of Babylon 5 5,810

The sales are getting to be Aftershock-tier so it needs to stop going down this instant

>>83617211
Is Lashina getting freaky with Klaus Nomi?

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>>83617319
Welcome to the ARMAGETTO

>>83617306
I laughed at "tom king's alternative to therapy and immediately felt bad, but hey, I'm preordered for the trade

>>83617306

i'm not reading it cause King's stuff is too depressing already with the distance of being cape stories. i can't handle real deal shit.

and trade waiting

>>83617355
Love the little Darkseid heads.

>>83617366
>>83617366
Good thing the trade comes out the month after the arc finishes

>>83617355
>Giant stone Darkseid faces.

I want to introduce the meanest new york pigeons to Apokolypse, just for them to shit all over those things.

>>83616788

>>MAGGIE SAWYER (Recurring) I A openly homosexual detective for the newly-formed Science Police, which deals specifically with meta-human and alien threats.

Can you feel the Legion a-comin'

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>>83617355
If they market it right, Sheriff should sell really well to the NPR "I only read serious comics" sort of crowd, sell enough floppies to generally keep the lights on, but really be about the trades.

>>83617211
>Waller vs Goodness
That is fucking amazing. Comic books.

>>83617319
>Armagetto
... That, less so. And yes, I know that's a commonly depicted Apokoliptian city. The pun is still lame. Comic books.

>>83616547
>>he's watching Hogan's Heroes

Why would someone not watch Hogan's Heroes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq-RBEuWzpc

>>83617398
Eaten by Parademons within a fortnight.

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>>83617419
I mean, keep in mind it's got a bit more punch to it because it's Kirby

>>83616559
>It was real life
Yeah, but it's real life that's going to be extraordinarily out of date when there are fully out lesbian combat duty marines, which is where we are heading.

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>>83617451
IDK, NYC pigeons are some hard-core survivor shit

>>83617355
So, Lashina's from Milwaukee?

>>83617412
>"I only read serious comics" sort of crowd
Such a crowd exists? Sounds like a bunch of snobby hipsters.

I will never understand how anyone can limit their taste to just one kind of thing.

>>83617451
I said NEW YORK pigeons nigga, you ever been outside of your moms house?

Those fuckers got prison tats and straight razors.

>>83617469
>which is where we are heading
not soon enough if you ask me

>>83617345
Eh, he's got Batman to float the bill now.

>>83616367
Ben is a qt

>>83617477

i'm picturing a story where someone tries to crossbreed them with Parademons to please Darkseid.

>>83617419
>... That, less so. And yes, I know that's a commonly depicted Apokoliptian city. The pun is still lame.
I dunno, since it's Kirby 'ghetto' also has some of the old anti-semitic vibes along with the modern poverty vibes.

>>83617490
>Such a crowd exists? Sounds like a bunch of snobby hipsters.
snobby hipsters are very real, yes

>>83617507
The true breakout husbando of the book

>>83617490
Sounds like the crowd Robbie Rodriguez rolls with.

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>>83617490
Oh, totally. But if you can get those snobby hipsters or people who will read SRS BZNS material but wouldn't be caught dead with a cape book, you've got sales potential.

>>83617519
Can you imagine Parademons that shit on people's heads?

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>>83617544
(which is why they should desperately try to get a segment about it on NPR. I listen to NPR, I know my people.)

>>83617457
You mean because Jack Kirby had a way of making stupid chucklefuck bullshit seem really cool and dignified? Fair enough.

>>83617355
I do like the little Darkseid heads though. That's some Dr. Eggman type shit right there.

>>83617562
>implying they don't already do that

>>83617469
Then make Kate a tranny.

>>83617562
Don't they, though?

>>83617490
>Such a crowd exists? Sounds like a bunch of snobby hipsters.
Somebody's never been in the non-cape threads.

>>83617571

>didn't say anything about lunatics

INSANE ARKHAM SQUAD INCOMING

>>83616668
>black dude Eiling

Well, that adds extra dimensions to his plans of a coup d'etat.

>>83616718
Obviously there's just a butterfly effect to events that were not directly related to the 10 years.

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>>83617571
Best /co/mment of the day:

>I keep a spreadsheet to track runs I've read/want to read and I have a special category that reads "Bendis >:(" to remind myself when it's not even worth picking the book up off the shelf.

>>83617684
Good anon. I know too many people who keep saying "Bendis >:(" but still buy him.

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>>83617660
He's got as far as I can tell *none* of the background intact, and he's just a ham-handed asshole with no skills at manipulation beyond yelling at people. Definitely can't be old enough to have been in Korea or even Vietnam.

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>>83617740
The >:( perfectly encapsulates how I feel about him too.

>>83617759
the thumbnail makes Deadshot look like a little ayylmao

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>>83617793

>>83617742
I appreciate that Flo's got this "I'm completely ashamed of my life choices right now" look on her face.

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>>83617833

>>83617742
Sure is the opposite of great when writers use an established name, make them a stock character because they're completely unfamiliar with them, and the editors let it slide.

>>83617759
Well they got that new Suicide Squad's Most Wanted mini coming up along with the current one

The current one could've been bad but both minis are ok

>>83617684
Heh. I feel like I should read more Bendis stuff, because I enjoy hurting myself every now and then.

Also, hi Barda.

>>83617742
Hey... Barda. Why... the .... ellipsis? Are you... okay?

>>83617883

does that one have Waller back ups or is she getting an issue later?

also ostrander 1 shot in the pipe

>>83617879
Eiling's not that uncommon of a last name, I bet if somebody cared enough they could just make a new one.

>>83617684
>>83617740
I dread when I get to the Bendis days in my storytimes. Not just because it's Bendis, because Luke Cage is fucking EVERYWHERE after.

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>>83617879
It's all surface and no depth in terms of "Hey, let's slap this onto this character". Look at Tom Taylor and the Obviously Roy who got 'Connor Hawke'. Eiling was so interesting and he got nuked to such a bland caricature that I might have to run the relevant issues just to look at it.

>>83617904
Barda's been drugged.

>>83617904
>Hey... Barda. Why... the .... ellipsis? Are you... okay?
One of the side effects of the drugs is making her talk like Captain Kirk. It will pass, but the trauma will linger.

>>83617918
She gets two issues in the upcoming antho
>SUICIDE SQUAD MOST WANTED #1 and #2: EL DIABLO AND BOOMERANG
>SUICIDE SQUAD MOST WANTED #3 and #4: EL DIABLO AND KILLER CROC
>SUICIDE SQUAD MOST WANTED #5 and #6: EL DIABLO AND AMANDA WALLER

It's a weird way of setting up but the 2 parters seem to be by new writers from Snyder's class?
Diablo getting the 6 parter is weird too

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>>83617967
;______________;

>>83617793
Amanda, why cant anyone else write you?

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>>83617985
>mfw it's like playing original Contra on hard mode

>>83617985
RIP Sheba.

>>83617979
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/El_Diablo_Vol_1

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/El_Diablo_Vol_2

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/El_Diablo_Vol_3

Not bad

>>83617979
he's gonna be the breakout hit from SS movie!

>>83618045
God damn you Lashina, what'd you even BRING a guy in a Helicopter for anyway?

>>83618072
More like everybody will be sad when he inevitably dies lol

Out of all the bandaids Abnett's doled out for E2, I think my second favorite has to be this new one:

>tommyjohn, previous plot cancer, more recently a dropped plot thread, legitimately believes he was abandoned and is now a child soldier

>>83617985
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>83618121
Hah, did he really do that? that's hilarious

>>83618121
>not John Thomas, named after his father Dick

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>>83618121
haha, no shit??? that's unexpectedly hard core

>>83618121
I think you mean John Thomas.

>>83618121
>child soldier
Getting close to being Robin, son

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>>83618175
Even better, he's Humanite's properly. Fuck yeah, Humanite.

>>83618110
I gotta say, for a group called "Suicide Squad" they've still got a pretty damn good survival rate. I mean, Briscoe and Sheba bring the kill count up to five or so right? And Ifrit-Mindboggler brings that down to four.

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>>83618236

>>83618224
beautiful

I hope he kills Dick. You should have looked for your kid, asshole!

>>83618234
She still died, coming back as a magic ghost doesn't change that.

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>>83618274
this arc is such great shit

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>>83618299
look who's here

>>83618224
If anything I hope it's setting up a plot where Dick saves him or something and then quit being Batman to go raise him

Or better yet they both just die

>>83618224
>NO PARENT WOULD EVER GIVE UP ON THEIR CHILD
pure pottery

>>83618236
Lashina is a bit like Vegeta, with an S&M fetish

>>83618004

Preview

>>83618175
>fifth panel
... Wow, it's a little weird to see Waller being nice. Though not disagreeable.

>HEL-LO GIRLS
Pfft. Incoming ham....

>>83618236
>treacherous slut
Treacherous, yes. but where the hell are you getting slut from?

>>83618284
>magic ghost doesn't change that.
Please, she's a swarm of nanomachines. Who actually believes in magic?

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>>83618343
Well it's not totally awful yet

But having two people narrate isn't gonna be fun to read

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>>83618413
we C. S. Lewis reference now

preachy book, though

>>83618343
I'm assuming Johns told Humphries to play up the fact that Jessica and Baz have trust issue overlap. It's the correct choice to tag Jessica's PTSD with Baz' general insecurity.

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>>83618445

>>83618346
>... Wow, it's a little weird to see Waller being nice
The ground crew of Task Force X is Waller's surrogate family. So she acts more like the tough big sister or mother figure than the scary taskmaster she is towards say, Boomerang or Light.

>>83618426
Frankly, narration in general is starting to get insufferably grating. It's starting to feel like decompression has gotten out of control solely because writers want to cram in as much of their damn prose as they can.

Comics need to shut the hell up for a while.

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>>83618500
Virman Vunderbar, because fake German accents are inherently komisch

>>83618346
Flo is her niece, shouldn't she be nice?

>>83618121
>>83618224
EARTH 2: SOCIETY ANNUAL #1
Written by DAN ABNETT
Art and cover by BRUNO REDONDO
Earth-2’s Batman is Dick Grayson. Does he have what it takes to be a true Batman and follow in the legacy of Bruce and Thomas Wayne before him? Or will he only ever be a stand-in? Beyond anything else, he has one overriding goal...to find his missing son. Is that a job for the Batman...or is it something only Dick Grayson can do? The Wayne legacy is at stake. This is an epic turning point in the history of Earth-2’s Batman.
On sale AUGUST 31 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T

Pls be the end of this Bat character infesting Earth 2

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>>83618505
>>83618529
right, Flo is actual blood family, which is why she was being so protective, too

>>83618462
>It's the correct choice to tag Jessica's PTSD with Baz' general insecurity.
It's a good idea but I don't have a lot of faith in Humphries to do it justice

I guess the only option is to wait and see

>>83618445
I kinda want the lowlies to save Briscoe and Sheba, outfit her with some New Gods tech, and go on a rampage with them.

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>>83618574
delicious Barda

>>83618566
>Does he have what it takes to be a true Batman and follow in the legacy of Bruce and Thomas Wayne before him?
Dying? Please let Worst Dick die

shit, if they're going to bring characters back bring back Unhinged Bisexual Thomas, at least he was amusing

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>>83618603

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>>83618574
Stompa is cute. CUTE!

>>83618615
We need the real murderous, gay-sex-having Batman, not the fake one on Earth-1.

>>83617490
>I will never understand how anyone can limit their taste to just one kind of thing.
Says the anon on a board where most comic readers only read capes.

>>83618593
>Apokoliptians saving anyone

>>83618574
>right, Flo is actual blood family
Her niece?

Makes me think the best way to retcon skinny Waller is to have her be Flo posing as Amanda.

>>83618695
Son of a gun. This fixes everything, maybe even the part where Waller allegedly went on GI Joe missions. After this plot, it sure makes sense.

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>>83618678
Capes aren't just one genre though.

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>>83618695
that's a great idea!

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>>83618758
we so very /d/

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>>83618780
sexiestcatfightever.jpg

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>>83618798
Eve gets to put on her rapeface

>>83618780
The GMILF enthusiasts in this thread are in heaven right now.

>>83618731
>Capes aren't just one genre though.
Neither are "serious comics," then.

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>>83618843
>Artemiz the Huntress
Seriously?

And that's a hell of a rapeface.

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>>83618866
THink of it a bit like the category of "literary fiction"; it can encompass a variety of genres, and yet it's clearly demarcated from 'genre', and people have similar arguments and habits around it

>>83618731
They are. But they're a kitchen sink genre. You can have high fantasy, gritty street noir and raygun gothic or Space Sci Fi elements all in the same goddamn book. And somehow it works. And if anyone asks why, we declare "comics."

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>>83618930
FUCKING KANTO

>>83617089
You say that as though Joker isn't as bad or worse than war criminals.

>>83618960

Vertigo!!

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>>83618960

>>83618930
I get what it is, I just find it weirded out by how hypocritical it is when /co/ starts being snarky at non-cape readers for "limiting" themselves.

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>>83619005

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>>83619027

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>>83619063
Let us pause to appreciate the Fury name 'Bernadeth'

>>83619063
Barda does what Nintendon't.

>>83619025
I never said anything of the sort, I personally, don't understand why anyone would limit themselves like that. It ain't got nothing to do with capes, dude.

Hell, Storyteller has run non-cape books, mostly fantasy stuff. Amethyst, Mage, Grimjack, Warlord...

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>>83619078

>>83619086
this innocent ingenue act is really wearing thin

>>83619086
I might not have been clear, but I'm speaking broadly, and was more pointing out that we're all on a board that's just as limited, if not more so, than the "NPR srs business comics" crowd. I'll throw stones at /co/ for being limited just as much as other groups, thank you very much.

>>83619121
"Act"? What act? I'm not allowed to have opinions now? The hell are you even on about?

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>>83619091

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>>83619190
Daaaaang.

>>83618236
>treacherous slut

umm rude

>>83619187
>I'm not allowed to have opinions now?
>now

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>>83619208
so, leave it here, or....

:)

>>83619229
More!:)

>>83619229
Keep going.

I'm going half mad imagining what kind of Female Fury Flo would look and act like.

>>83619229
Oh we gotta finish this.

>>83619164
>>83619223
Niggas, please. Damn that hivemind nonsense.

>>83619229
don't be a tease pls