JSA Storytime: Suicide Squad

>>83583010
There is a whole lot of chin happening on this cover.

>>83583010
Neat

I forgot Legends of Tomorrow was coming out this week, I am excited for Sugar & Spike

http://www.newsarama.com/29564-rebirth-revisits-classic-era-in-legends-of-tomorrow-4-preview.html

>dat moe Hal
>dat Itty
>dat Ma Hunkel display
>dat digging through obscura for fun stuff thank you based Giffen

>>83583010
Man I didn't even know this was a thing. Get hype.

>>83583032
Look at that outfit.

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>>83583062
S&S is really well done and Bilquis Evely is a gem who should get more work.

>>83583072
I actually own this floppy, thank you random bins

>>83583072
>Kupperberg Patrol
>hype
No.

Oh hey, New Avengers out tomorrow.

Al Ewing can't save this entire stupid fucking event from itself, but he'll do his damnedest.

I'm still losing my mind over Marvel ignoring Coates and Bendis "anti-thanos missile" shit.

>>83583010
Hello Storyteller.

>COMICS NOT JUST FOR KIDS
The irony of course is that comics haven't been kid-friendly in ages.

>Doom Patrol
Oh for fucks sake.

>>83583116
>Bilquis Evely is a gem who should get more work.
She really is, I'm not sure what else she's done other than this & Shaft but S&S looks so good

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>>83583116
this spread is overlapped, sorry about that, but these are really quite nice scans of old print

Also, let's just say that Sandinistas/the US is a complex political situation, to put it mildly

>>83583160
>"anti-thanos missile"
my siiiiides

>>83583116
Yeah, very good artist.

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>>83583184
Hawk, you're not crazy powerful enough to go rogue and enforce things like Nate is.

>>83583182
I think she did some Bombshells, too. But they'd be dumb not to offer her more, when Keith Giffen likes your storytelling chops you're doing good.

>>83583184
1. where'd he get it on short notice, does he just keep it on hand

2. an anti-thanos missile of all things preceded by tony refusing to upgrade his BFF's armor

3. you fucking hack, bendis

4. Rhodey as a death choice really lacks any punch when he's barely been in anything for... years.

>>83583160
I'm still losing my mind over them making an event in like three months just to put one issue out the same time as the movie and then admitting it in interviews like it's no big deal

just what

>>83583176
Hey, fuck you, DP is great, just not this one.

>>83583225
Giffen likes Scott Kolins a lot and collaborates with him often but he's super underrated...

>>83583225
>Hawk, you're not crazy powerful enough to go rogue and enforce things like Nate is.
Haha! And yet...

>>83583184
>Nicaragua
>US's Backyard

Hank you goddamn bootlicker.

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That menace.

>>83583182
She does these historical sketches for warm-ups, they're fucking gorgeous. Would love to see her on something fantasy.

>>83583245
I listened to a podcast interview with the guy who owns Big Bang Comics today and he said there's tons of Suicide Squad trades out and they've all been selling really well, and that Millar's Civil War was their top Marvel seller last year, but putting CWII out AFTER the movie was a huge mistake because the hype is already dead

>>83583245
Everything about Civil War 2 that we've heard the behind the scenes stuff about just confirms that nobody at or near the top of Marvel has any sort of concept of "this looks bad."

Brevoort talking about "yeah black heroes die all the time in our events, huh? but this time we promise it's good", like, dude.

>>83583245
I'm not even surprised at this point really, it's sad though

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>>83583225
We Ronnie again

that hair

>>83583245
It's fucking crazy. This stuff has repercussions down the line, and I wish I knew exactly what TNC said to them about Rhodey.

>>83583225
Power is all about will, OP. Surely magenta husbando man has taught you that?

>>83583312
>If you won't rape the Joker Batman, then I will

And people shat on BatGordon for being too fit for his age.
Also source?

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>>83583312
Is that Schillinger???

>>83583335
After something like that, I can't imagine him working for them for long. He's so much bigger than all of them and if he can't get any kind of respect, you'll see some McDuffie or Priest style heat thrown their way. It's not like this is his only job and he has to please everybody so to not burn any bridges.

>>83583315
It was their best selling trade last year in bookstores according to the Bookscan list.

>46,652 CIVIL WAR TP MILLAR MARK MARVEL COMICS GROUP MARVEL Apr-07 CGN004080 9780785121794 Trade Paperback $24.99 $1,165,833.48

I wish that was enough for them

>>83583407
No, you prag.

>>83583116
TOO BRITISH TO LIVE

>>83583423
Coates revealed that when Marvel approached him he told them he loved Spider-Man and their response was "Nah... how about Black Panther?" Same old Marvel.

>>83583427
I would absolutely love to see the reactions of MCU fans to that garbage.

>>83583327
Well anon SOMEBODY thought it looked bad enough to leak it four months early. And bless them for it so we'd be prepared for how bad this whole thing is.

I really wanna know who it is. An editor, fellow writer, an intern, etc...

>>83583259
I dunno, something about the Doom Patrol just rubs me the wrong way. They're all super serious, broken people who act like a surrogate family. But then they all come off as dumb superhero parodies and fight stupid shit like the Brotherhood of Dada. Pick a tone and stick to it.

>>83583427
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/04/the-high-cost-of-war-marvels-500-civil-war-box-set

Fansided reports that the box set, coming just in time for the Captain America: Civil War movie, will retail for $500. That money will get you a total of 11 hardcover volumes, spanning 100 issues of comics in which superheroes punch each other.

The full list of included volumes is:

Civil War Prologue Premiere HC
Civil War Premiere HC
Civil War: Avengers Premiere HC
Civil War: Fantastic Four Premiere HC
Civil War: Frontline Premiere HC
Civil War: Marvel Universe Premiere HC
Civil War: Spider-Man Premiere HC
Civil War: The Underside Premiere HC
Civil War: X-Men Premiere HC
Civil War Aftermath Premiere HC
Civil War Files Premiere HC

The Civil War story arc centered on a rift between Marvel's iconic superheroes, over the Superhero Registration Act. Following a tragic accident involving amateur superheroes, the government pushed for an act that would force masked vigilantes to register their real identities, causing a split between those who fought for privacy, led by Captain America, and those who felt an obligation to obey the law to make civilians feel safe, led by Iron Man.

Last year

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>>83583348
Mai husbando has people skills and subtlety, though

>>83583440
that fucking show, man

>>83583457
siiiigh.

>>83583475
I am dying to know, too. It was so accurate, it had to piss off/freak out the brass.

>>83583457
It's actually weird because even if they wanted to give him token black characters Miles is like so much more in line with what Coates investigates and writes about that BP is. Coates' perspective is fairly pessimistic; BP's afrofuturism has an inherent optimism to it.

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>>83583513
The Buy Pile Guy is really down on TNC BP because it's entirely too realistic/gritty and he wanted shiny afrofuturism; but he was also really mad at everything Hickman did with/to Wakanda

>>83583513
Ain't nobody taking Miles away from Bendis.

That motherfucker will keep us in filler hell forever.

In DC talk: Odds that Rucka retcons the amazon nonsense?

>>83583513
yeah but BP has a movie coming and Miles doesn't, so

>>83583471
MCU fans are the lowest common denominator...

>>83583513
Bendis probably won't let anybody else write Miles until he's done and the dude writes characters for like 4 or 5 years at a time.

>>83583480
>Pick a tone and stick to it.
Yeah nah, fuck that. That they're stories involves a range of tones and experiences is a strength, and it's one that's been present since Drake Arnold.

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>>83583552
High odds on Rucka, and no one is taking Bendis' toys away from him until he's completely done. He'll probably write that Jessica Jones book too.

I...I have no idea what's going on here.

>>83583583
The nice thing is that unlike other characters of his, there's no way he'd be allowed to kill him outright to go "nobody can play with my toys now".

>>83583551
Comics fans wanting only their specific theoretical book? Say it ain't so!

>>83583457
Marvel will never learn

>>83583480
There is one tone though. The Morrison run at the very least picks a tone and sticks to it, more than 90% of superhero comics these days with all the snark and joking on top of crumbling schools and dead children and after just two pages ago you showed characters crying and being scared.

>>83583315
>and he said there's tons of Suicide Squad trades out and they've all been selling really well,

Neat.

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>>83583610
Someone should have told him NO about Victoria Hand.

>>83583583
Didn't he write Ult Spidey for like 10 years? no way he's spending any less than a decade on Miles

hey thread

Also in that big interview Coates' did there's one point where he talked about as a kid/young teen liking and investing in these characters he didn't even see Peter Parker in terms of race and I found that a really great and affirming thing to read.

>>83583457
>Hey, how about you do some things for us, and maaaaaybe we might line something up for you

>>83583312

i want him to have a starring movie now. goddamn. Superheavy movie plz

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>>83583611
Buy Pile Guy also really liked New 52 Mr. Terrific, so I think, to be blunt, he's likely to give a pass to any black dude books that kind of hit his tone/style reqs. We read that book. It wasn't good.

>>83583632
Was there much salvageable there?

Kupperberg's Doom Patrol was a mess. Steve Lightle drew the first 6 issues and jumped ship at his first chance

> "When I finished the pencil art for issue #1, I told the editor that we had to get going on issue two. He answered that Kupperberg had already written three rewrites and was working on a fourth. I wasn't able to see the scripts or discuss them with anyone.When I finally got the final draft, I was supposed to look it over and give my input - but instead I was told that there was "no time". I was given seven days to draw the whole issue. That is when I was informed that DC had added it to the schedule without communicating to the editor - a story which I don't believe for a minute.

http://dcinthe80s.blogspot.ca/2016/05/steve-lightle-talks-about-his-1987-run.html

I still have hope for Wacky Raceland

>>83583683
It's such a weird thing to see in action, just "do you have any fucking idea who you're talking to." In a flawed comparison, it'd be like if they got JK Rowling for a book and when she picked her favorites, Marvel goes "Mmmm, maybe if you work REALLY hard..."

IIIRC, Sana Amanat recced Coates to Alonso, and for all his talk about diversity lately he doesn't seem to be plugged into the modern day, at all.

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>>83583653
HI ANON

>>83583706
Hand's a fine supporting character who'd been through some crazy shit you could draw on, he killed her so no one else could use her

>>83583733
jeeeeeeeeeeeeesus

>>83583695
In matters of taste... Personally, I don't like Hickman at all so I can kind of relate.

>>83583552
>In DC talk: Odds that Rucka retcons the amazon nonsense?
High. The murderzons are definitely going away.
>The story keeps changing.
Not sure how exactly, but it's already easy enough to get rid of since despite so much praise from Azz-fags, the idea went absolutely nowhere.

Speaking of which, anyone else damn tired of hearing idiots bitch about how this was a good idea because "the Amazons were all perfect and flawless before"? I swear, it would literally kill these people to read a book.

>>83583457

jesus christ.

>>83583679

I'm sure it was something he came up with later but I've seen stories of Stan saying that's why Spidey has the full face mask, so anyone can identify with who's under it.

>>83583706

A SHIELD person who's not Fury Jr, Hill, or Quake if nothing else.

>>83583757

but he has hip hop on his ipod!

>>83583756
Hopefully not for its sales, Dave.

>>83583778
One of Wonder Woman's many ongoing problems is perception, and DC and WB taking a very, very long time to try and counter it in any significant manner.

>>83583757
But who can compete with the sheer brilliance of Dan Slott, anon?

>>83583757
>It's such a weird thing to see in action, just "do you have any fucking idea who you're talking to." In a flawed comparison, it'd be like if they got JK Rowling for a book and when she picked her favorites, Marvel goes "Mmmm, maybe if you work REALLY hard..."
>Well, I always liked reading about Wolverine, maybe I could--
>You want to write Scarlet Witch? Great! We're thinking about revamping her as a young adult who goes to a school run by a witch for help with her powers. Interested?

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>>83583767
I was pretty sour on Hickman Avengers, but it was something about the way he kept framing it that was very "stop making things I don't like happen to my characters who should be curbstomping everything that comes across their paths"

>>83583778
Weeeelll, there's

>Writers say there's no conflict if the Amazons are perfect. Bullshit. The conflict is btwn them & US. *WE'RE* the villains in #WonderWoman

>>83583778
I think it's dumb for a whole bunch of reasons. But a big one for me is it's already there in myth and whenever you do myth in comics it has to be at least as interesting as the actual myth, or there's no point and you should be mixing it up. The DC amazons have tons of built up sci-fi and societal madness that you can play around with, and to ignore that and copy off some 2000 year old Greeks is weak shit.

>>83583830
I think we all know ever title but Scooby Apocalypse is gonna sink like a stone.

Scooby-Doo is unkillable.

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>>83583845
this story sucks, guys. And it's 48 pages long.

>>83583875
I think Future Quest will do alright

Wacky Raceland and Flintstones are probably not going to do so hot

>>83583784
Yeah, I don't know. It was just pretty warming. If you're writing these stories for American kids that is as good as it gets from a minority kid, right?

>>83583784
>I'm sure it was something he came up with later

According to Steve Ditko , and this is second hand from Jonathan Ross and Neil Gaiman, the mask was because of how young Peter was. Ditko believed no one would take him seriously if they could see his face and realize he was in high school

>>83583844

ok you are correct but i'd murder to read Wanda's School for Gifted Youngsters

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>>83583374
http://batman-news.com/2016/06/07/j-k-simmons-mustache-justice-league/

>>83583875
Aren't there like three Scooby books now? Scooby is a juggernaut

>>83583778
Takes me back to some of the Earth One discussions. Some people thought Morrison's Amazons were too perfect and others felt they were too flawed especially in how they reacted to normal human women. Can't really please everyone I guess even when you do an even portrayal.

>>83583853
>The DC amazons have tons of built up sci-fi and societal madness that you can play around with, and to ignore that and copy off some 2000 year old Greeks is weak shit.

This was my issue with it. It's really boring.

>>83583889
No Peacemaker, see. We'll never get that Peacemaker/Duchess first date (and last date) comic.

>>83583784
>but he has hip hop on his ipod!

And he's Mexican or something!

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>>83583889

>>83583935
And Looney tunes is been running since 1994.

>>83583932
holy shit

>>83583845
>"stop making things I don't like happen to my characters who should be curbstomping everything that comes across their paths"
lol even people that think they like that shit don't, dude needs to move beyond his gaia online days

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>>83583932
No way would Beecher have been able to shit on that guy's face

>>83583935
>Scooby Doo has as many ongoings as Batman

>>83583916
That'd be hilarious, if only because recent art makes her look like she's trying to passively seduce some of her teenaged acquaintances.

>>83583896
Flintstones could become cult.
Wacky Raceland has an uphill battle.

>>83583935
And so many series since its inception.

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>>83583992

>>83583932
I see Roshi is preparing for the next Tenkaichi Budokai

>>83583985

yeah people don't get Charlie Brown is never gonna kick the football.

>>83584006

>Flintstones could become cult.

WORSHIP FIRE
PRAISE RECORD PLAYER

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>>83583966

>>83583480
There is a tone. I'm guessing you've never heard of Dadaism, Surrealism and dream theory.

>>83583845
>>Writers say there's no conflict if the Amazons are perfect. Bullshit. The conflict is btwn them & US. *WE'RE* the villains in #WonderWoman
More Twitter nonsense? The Amazons' major recurring flaws are their paranoia, isolationism, and the fact they still somehow worship the Olympians. All of these have been major sources of conflict throughout WW's existence.

>>83583853
You anon, are speaking my language. There's 75 years of comics to draw from. Writers should do their research and use those elements.

WWEO did that, and it was great. Sad how Morrison of all people managed to write a solid Wondy story. Dude actually looked some shit up.

>>83584040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdQLaHEpx9w

>>83584004
We should all thank god the X-Men have never really gone for realistic sexual politics in academia.

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>>83584051
There are those who, going especially Golden Age, view the Amazons as a Utopia who have sent their best out to help us, yes.

>>83584046
I want them to address that, logically, Slate and Co. should CONTROL THE WORLD.

Everything is made out of fucking rocks.
EVEN THE MONEY!

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>>83584077
>realistic sexual politics in academia.
you should really see my D: D: D: face right now

this comic is sapping my will to live. abort, or power through?

>>83584051

>the fact they still somehow worship the Olympians

Dr 13 when

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>>83584110

>>83584110
End it like Bendis ended Jen's life support.

>>83583423
I know McDuffie incident, what happened with Priest?

>>83584110
I mean there's that one panel of Charles declaring his secret love for Jean, but you'd need to up the shitbag quotient by like 1000%.

>>83584110
I don't mind aborting

>>83584084
Thing is, it'd get mad hate. I mean, shit, Wonder Woman can't even use the word "mansplaining" without kicking off an internet riot. One where man's world is completely and totally in the wrong, would probably get more venom than OMD.

>>83584110
Power through! Pain is just a reminder you're alive.

>>83584139
He doesn't like being pigeonholed as "the black writer", where you only write books with black guys in them even if you don't want to write them

>>83584139
He basically stopped writing comics because he was only asked to write black characters and he didn't want to get pigeonholed that way

although he's going to be writing Mr. Stroke soon

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>>83584151
>>83584132
Executive decision--this comic sucked.

Now, THIS...this will not suck.

>>83584077
Rahne did end up having a relationship with a student and resigned when it became public.

>>83584051
Writing a capital U Utopia is just way too difficult most of the time.

>>83583845
I bet those are the same writers who go "how can WW be a for peace if she's a warrior?"

Newsflash: actually reading her books can help

>>83584139
Priest was told a joke in a Deadpool script would be offensive to black readers. His comment was that marvel was clearly more concerned about white readers getting offended on the behalf of black readers

>>83584172
>it's a Personal Files issue
oh hell yes

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>>83584172
>>83584187
that was some quality shade he threw, about that

>>83584139

someone has the details better but I think it involved getting promised Captain America and it turned into a Falcon book

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>>83584201

>>83583939
>Takes me back to some of the Earth One discussions. Some people thought Morrison's Amazons were too perfect and others felt they were too flawed especially in how they reacted to normal human women. Can't really please everyone I guess even when you do an even portrayal.
This honestly pissed me off. Look, I will bitch for hours about how awful the murderzons thing is, but on the other hand, you can't have good stories without flawed characters. Diana herself was portrayed as somewhat arrogant, but well meaning. It's baffling that people thought that was a bad thing.

>>83584084
>There are those who, going especially Golden Age, view the Amazons as a Utopia who have sent their best out to help us, yes.
Well, they are incorrect. Yeah, the Amazons themselves might tell you they live in Paradise, but they're kidding themselves.

>>83584171
I'd laugh if there are absolutely no black characters and no black background characters. Wouldn't hold it against him. Would maybe laugh when people mistake him for white again and complain.

>>83584172
>that cover
>SS
...fuck you, 4chan

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>>83584215

>>83584201
Marvel can be so retarded. I'd kill for that DD run he wanted to write once upon a time but it's clear that after everything they put him through he probably doesn't want to work for them anymore.

>>83584223
>again

Was there a memorable first time that happened and if so, do tell

>>83584187
They seem to be dealing with "non-jews getting offended on behalf of jews" with Captain Hydra well enough, though in fairness to them, most people wouldn't predict that kind of reaction.

>>83584225
THE WALL IS NOT FOR SEXUAL

>>83584225
...real talk, is there a market for Waller /ss/? I bet there is. Not with Wallerbaby, though.

>>83584223
>Would maybe laugh when people mistake him for white again and complain.
I've already seen people saying stuff like "WHY DO THEY KEEP MAKING DEATHSTROKE BOOKS, NOBODY LIKES DEATHSTROKE"

if Chris Priest is like "hey I wanna write Deathstroke" then you let him, dammit

Rucka talked some about getting into the daily life of the Amazons in the latest interviews, right? I have been dying for that shit. That is the kind of stuff we've needed, the stuff Gotham and Metropolis get all the time.

>>83583552
I think he was definitely asked to keep demigod origin since it's essentially the origin in movies, other stuff he can definitely change.

>>83584264
Nothing specific, but there was a small, nonzero amount of lumping Mr. Stroke into WASP Comics For WASPs.

Most people I came across didn't go that far, but had no idea who Priest was despite them repping BP now and then.

>>83584270

I'm still mad about people saying it's bad for Kirby and Simon but not linking to Heroes Initiative or CBLDF firstly.

>>83584291
I'm wondering if he isn't going to tweak it so Diana is made of clay but Hippolyta gave birth to Jason or something to that effect

then again JL said Diana and Jason were twins

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>>83584283
The new article up on Panels about "where are all the DC queer Z-listers" rehearses the usual salt about Batwoman being cancelled and Deathstroke living on

Hey, remember this plotline?

>>83584111
I'd like that, actually. it'd make for a nice comedic one shot or recurring gag.

For real though, even the Olympians themselves, in Perez's run I believe, kinda had the realization "Y'know, these are literally the only people on Earth who still worship us. Maybe we should stop treating them like crap.".

>>83584176
Oh that is the worst. The fuck do these people think soldiers do, exactly? Or hell, SUPERHEROES? Being a warrior for peace is kind what most comics are about.

>>83584324
>Nothing specific, but there was a small, nonzero amount of lumping Mr. Stroke into WASP Comics For WASPs

Daily reminder that JSA is for dudebros.

>>83584335
You think they would have moved onto Midnighter?

I forgot Wonder Twin's name is Jason so it can't be Dick.

but Todd....

>>83584284

maybe with double shipping books we can get decent slice of life and supporting cast and shit in books again

>>83584335
Mr. Stroke can go quiltbag in the span of one panel. Problem solved, it's not like he loves his ex-wife or anything.

>>83584335
At least that clears up my issue with the Halloween story.

>>83584335
Batwoman will get back outta the hole eventually. I think they just need to look back at all the fucked ass shit they did with her and just go "how can we fix this".

Like Batwoman really should not be too hard a book to write, but the first team got way too ambitious (who remembers CONSTANT FLASHBACKS/FLASH FORWARDS) and Andreyko... I don't know what the fuck Andreyko was thinking. Every writer has some stinkers, but damn.

>>83584376
His relationship with Wintergreen always seemed a little suspect!

>>83584187
>>83584270
Kind of reminds me what Yang said about how he had to change the New Super-Man name because Kenji is perceived to be a Japanese name and people would assume some white guy made a mistake along the way instead of understanding the context of it.

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>>83584361
I am willing to bet there's a non-zero overlap in people who would read Batwoman and Midnighter

still sad Andreyko was a misfire as much as it was.

>>83584361
Team Not Read Comics doesn't acknowledge it. Literally will ignore you if you bring it up.

>>83584376
He and Wintergreen were pretty gay back in the day desu

>>83584365
JAY-SUN!

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>>83584395
I hope for another Batwoman Relaunch one day.

>>83584414
L O L
O
L

>>83584365
so that's why he gets Artemis on his team

>>83584457
I remember people thought Rucka made Helena gay because she was in a book with two other lesbians.

>>83584335
>The new article up on Panels

>And, at the end of the day, there is only finite space in fans’ budgets.
no offense to the LGBTQ++++ crowd but yall couldn't keep Midnighter above 10k, what incentive does DC have to put out more homo books

>>83584395
>>83584457
Bennett was freaking out on twitter the other day, and if she was because she's writing something at DC, then it's like a 50% chance of Batwoman

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>>83584395
Batwoman's in Tec, but...oh, lemme quote the article

>Even Batwoman, arguably DC’s most iconic LGBT character and pictured above for her upcoming role in Detective Comics, was recently victim to a forced, year-long sabbatical. In a glowing piece from the Advocate in May 2015, DC Co-Publisher Jim Lee said of Batwoman, “there are great characters and sometimes you have to give them a rest to bring them back.” Meanwhile Deathstroke has no time for naps, as Rebirth’s giving him his third series in nearly five years.

>And though it seems unfair to quibble over a piece of promotional artwork, it actually does represent what Rebirth’s presented of DC’s queer characters so far. Constantine has a solo series, Batwoman is an ensemble lead in Detective Comics, and Harley Quinn swings both ways with a solo and a leading team role in Suicide Squad. And that’s it. As is with the promotional image, there are no other yet-acknowledged queer characters in significant roles.

>>83584335
>Hey, remember this plotline?
Yes. It was glorious. Maximum trolling.

>>83584414
>making your ex-goon explode in magic fire while in custody
BRILLIANT! THEY'LL NEVER KNOW I'M REAL NOW!!!

>>83584496
>>83584492
But i Want Rucka to write Kate again No problem as long is better than her Batgirl fill in.

>>83584498
At least they admit it's unfair to quibble over a promo image

>>83584498
>Constantine has a solo series, Batwoman is an ensemble lead in Detective Comics, and Harley Quinn swings both ways with a solo and a leading team role in Suicide Squad. And that’s it.

I'd say that's pretty fucking good for MINORITY representation.

>>83584498

>Constantine has a solo series, Batwoman is an ensemble lead in Detective Comics, and Harley Quinn swings both ways with a solo and a leading team role in Suicide Squad

I mean, that seems surprisingly good for DC?

>>83584496

>Character you'll be excited to see again
>Gets Renee
>Rucka's face when

>>83584496
Coming off Bombshells that would make sense

>>83584498
Hey, still doing better than Marvel's "we got gay iceman, herc is straight, i will not comment on angela. oh, and billy and teddy, right?".

I would've liked Midnighter to have gone on much longer but that DC committed to that book at all is astounding. Gay sex, gay romance, violent gay lead, queer writer? It's incredibly rare. Harley Quinn's easy to turn canonly queer, but good on them for finally doing it, and she sells like gangbusters, so.

>>83584498
He also mentions Blacqualad who is also now gay/bi

>Across his two-panel appearance, Jackson Hyde (more popularly known as Aqualad of the Young Justice animated series) comes out as liking guys, framed by his mother’s homophobia. In and out and out. He doesn’t appear again.

>It’s hard to believe that DC would give him a broom closet’s worth of real estate in one of their most important comics for nothing; it’s just a matter of finding where. Unfortunately, fans hoping up to follow his story currently have nowhere to turn. He hasn’t appeared in any DC Rebirth press material—not in the announcement, in interviews, on series covers, or even in the above splash page, which was included in DC Rebirth #1.

he had about as much page time as Damian, Jessica, Wondy and several other characters who only had a panel or two in Rebirth

>>83584551
it's less meaningful when they say that then quibble about it anyway

>>83584498
I guess Midnighter doesn't ping as LGBT because people assumed he's yet another straight cape who just has really clothes-hating friends

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>>83584284
>Amazon slice of life

>>83584365
>maybe with double shipping books we can get decent slice of life and supporting cast and shit in books again
Io when? The Embassy staff when?

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>>83584493
Yeah, as much as I like a diversity in genre and protagonists etc. in my books, DCYou was a sales disaster and all the "Just keep on with it like this, it was great!" Progressive Comics Twitter Fans are living in la-la-land ignoring sales

loving the stylized art

>>83584551
having gone back and looked at said person's twitter, that's just a rhetorical dodge--there was much complaining about Kaldur being a surprise and not being promoted

>>83584498
>I don't believe in spontaneous combustion or Voodoo Mumbo-Jumbo
>Despite witnessing a man explode after talking about a voodoo mafia.

Eat a dick.

>>83584578

I think their problem is he doesn't have a clear book he's gonna show in like Damian, Jessica, Wondy, etc.

>>83584570
>i will not comment on angela
>meanwhile DC had full on explicit gay sex in the very first issue of Midnighter

Why do people bitch about DC, again?

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>>83584578
I think in relation to Jackson it's just "you've burned us before on this, why should we trust you now", which is a pretty defendable position, especially when DC and Johns and just about everybody fucked around forever on bringing him in.

Combination of sour apples and squeaky wheel gets the grease.

>>83584615
they don't have movies people want to watch yet

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>>83584612
when is Teen Titans Rebirth out, anyway?

>>83584592
I liked a lot of what DCYou did but I am not blind to the across-the-board horrible sales it had

of course a lot of those folks just say DC refused to commit to it despite the fairly large advertising push and the fact that they did it at all, they don't do that kind of shit on a whim, and if only they'd committed a little harder then sales would have been great!

>>83584612
that's fair, although I think Aquaman or TT is a safe bet

>>83584493
Yeah I don't really understand people getting upset at the Rebirth lineup when people weren't buying the other books. You have to know when you're living on borrowed time and just hope that they'll try again and maybe it will work later.

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>>83584658
WAIFU

>>83584637
there are still people meming about snyder on random stuff like the JLA cartoon

it's so exhausting

>>83584667

Yeah, isn't there a to be revealed Teen Titans member?

>>83584658
September, I think?

>>83584612
Aquaman probably since Abnett said Manta is going to be a big player in the book

>>83584667
Yeah, well, we know all about how bad the Big 2, but especially DC, are at promoting shit, especially to new readers.

Whenever they get lightning in a bottle like Runaways or Ms. Marvel they stare at it, stupefied, and learn nothing.

>>83584696
Better not be Ryan, he's too soon for another matchbox

>>83584606
That's not spontaneous though. The guy's boss remote detonated him, so there was a definite reason that happened. And to be fair, voodoo is not that common in comics as other magicks, so Sarge probably hasn't encountered it before.

>>83584667
Speaking of advertising, has anyone else seen those DC Rebirth commercials on TV?

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>>83584681
best storyline

>>83584335
Link?

>>83584726

Didn't Johns imply Atom stuff was coming later?

>>83584729
I don't really watch TV so no. That's a pretty big push, I don't think they've advertised comics since New 52

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>>83584733
>>83584749
http://panels.net/2016/06/07/lgbtq-hide-month-dcs-rebirth-demotes-queer-characters/

>>83584729
I haven't had TV in like, six years

>>83584729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8801MJ9nkFU

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>>83584762
to be absolutely fair to the Panels author, the situation wrt representation at Marvel is routinely tagged as much worse

>>83584757
I heard about those too from someone, Youtube and TV ads

>>83584756
Titans killed our boy once, I don't trust 'em

>>83584769
>>83584757
Well I don't how much it counts for anything, but they pop up on IFC pretty regularly.

>>83584728
Sarge is running a chain gang that employs an honest to god Witch.

>>83584762

man if you're using Pride Month as the jumping off point you gotta do both big 2. which could be coming later to be fair

>>83584592
You know DCYou could've used this support really really early on instead of after the announcement that everything is cancelled

Instead you got people not caring because literally who characters/creative teams and/or people side eyeing DC because 'only marvel is progressive you copycats'

>>83584681
Oh, I love Duchess.

>>83584733
AGAIN WITH THE DAMN PIES.

WHO'S DOING THAT?

>>83584803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8801MJ9nkFU

.. Here

>>83584792

Dr Light being a needy fuccboi who no one likes is so much better than Dr. Rape.

>>83584792
I haven't been able to get hype about LGBT content in Marvel since Xtreme ended. Love ya, Pak, keep giving us what we like.

>>83584457
Well Cucka is back at DC, so.....

>>83584756
He didn't imply it, he outright said it, along with Shazam, LOSH, and JSA.

He's not writing any of it and they'll need books after some of them become monthly again, so I'm inclined to believe him this time.

>>83584830
>>83584788
Yea that's the one.

>>83584792
HIT HIM AGAIN!
HIT HIM AGAIN!
HIT HIM AGAAAAIN!

>>83584818
They should have even more grievances with Marvel when it comes to lgbt stuff

how desperate for lgbt content do you have to be to applaud Iceman

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>>83584837
There is an amazing Dr. Light issue later in this run

dat list
Nate is not available

>>83584788
man when are they gonna tell us who's writing super shotas

>>83584898
I'm going to drink everything in my house if it's Krul.

>>83584878

I own the original issue of that. Trying to collect all of the SS issues, but prices have been going up.

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>>83584878
Count Vertigo's suit. Snyder, ILU.

the Vertigo arc is great

>>83584863
>how desperate for lgbt content do you have to be to applaud Iceman
VERY.

>>83584808
A witch who happens to be the spirit of an extra-dimensional succubus. Loa are more like protoplasmic loan sharks.

Different kinds of magic.

>>83584863
Time travel and make Iceman bi in 2002 when Northstar was available, then I'll applaud it.

>>83584606

"Aliens exist, therefore Jesus does" is not a valid reason for believing in voodoo.

>>83584926

the Vertigo/Deadshot stuff is so amazing

>>83584863
>how desperate for lgbt content do you have to be to applaud Iceman
incredibly

That or they don't see forcibly going into his head, the implication that he didn't want it to be known and her forcibly outing him, and 'FULL GAY what even are bisexuals' as wrong...

>>83585008
If you're fifteen and don't know any better, it looks alright. That's how I rationalize what I see.

I was fifteen once.

>>83584926
I shouldn't want to give a Supervillain a hug.

>>83585008
I've seen some people defending it (including at least one gay guy) as "it wasn't actually an outing because she didn't tell anyone else" and "well some gay people DO date women until they realize they're gay!"

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>>83584926
There's more in that one Vertigo page there than in whole books

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>>83585057
And now, the Waller backstory

>>83585008
>'FULL GAY

It's very much bioware tier sexuality besides the reccon. In that the character is forcibly rewritten to be only about their sexuality and mentions it without it making sense in the plot, but they have no depth other than who they fug.

>>83585083
Oh boy. Here we go.

>>83585045

Is the defense of the idea or how Bendis did it? cause I think it was a fine idea, and well fumble is too nice a term for what Bendis did

>>83585045
She told the readers tho

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>>83585083
how are you owls today?

I am actually Working On Something for the first time in ages, it's scary but fun.

>>83585103
>Is the defense of the idea or how Bendis did it?
both

>>83585045
I can't give Bendis the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to produce nuance.

Now, I'ma go back to Vibe from way back in the nu52: There was some nice, subtle bits of nuance in the realities of some gay lives, Gunn having a daughter and there being some strife after the divorce. Not a huge deal, but if you know how the story goes, it was a value-add.

>>83585116
>how are you owls today?
I had a dentist appointment that only lasted half an hour because everything is great, they accept my new dental insurance, AND the dentist noticed my star trek necklace and chatted with me a little. today was pretty great

>I am actually Working On Something for the first time in ages, it's scary but fun.
awesome!

>>83585116

gave in and got a Deadshot funko

>>83585094
well Bobby basically has no depth now except for the depth of his asshole probably
Most of what he talks about now is how gay he is

>>83585116
I'm fine but my skylight window in my bathroom leaks when it rains heavily now
So now I'm wondering how much mold is up in there with how out of the blue the leak was

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>>83585125
Or look at the story we had this issue--guy comes out and we'll see if/how his son deals with it. these are things that happen to people.

>>83585116
I not-divorced my realtor. I mean, I'm just never talking to him again, but that's because his strategy of "just let your rental lease expire" was one of those "when people show you who they are, PAY ATTENTION" moments.

>>83585116
>How are you owls today?
It's hot as balls here. Fuck summer.

>I am actually Working On Something for the first time in ages, it's scary but fun.
Neat. You're like a freelance artist, right?

>>83585178
>but that's because his strategy of "just let your rental lease expire"
christ

you made the right choice anon

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>>83585161
leaks are bad, I hope it's not shit

>>83585148
whew, that is the best

>>83585083
>>83585116
>I had thirty kids and fifteen of them are deeeeeaaaaad

>>83585217
sounds like Batman.

>>83585150

Mafex is making Suicide Squad figures. Don't hurt yourself with Funko pops.

http://hlj.com/product/MEDMAFEX-33/Act

>>83585116
I'm depressed as fuck because I watched 3 Makoto Sinkai films in a day. Literally want to slit my wrists.

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>>83585178
holy shiiit

>>83585183
I can't draw to save my life, no

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>>83585271

>>83585116
Finished Knights of Sidonia. Sad there isn't a third season.

>>83585286

Nihei lost his touch with Sidonia. The ending of the manga is bad.

The main characters end up with gender swapped versions of themselves. No joke.

Also, talking penis was best girl.

>Last year at the North Carolina Comicon, at Durham Convention Center, Bleeding Cool reported that Gerard Way talked about bringing back his Doom Patrol pitch.

>And so it came to pass.

>This year, he returns to NCcomicon for all three days, running from November 11th to 13th. And will be using it to launch his Young Animal line, Doom Patrol, Shade The Changing Girl, Mother Panic and Cave Carson Has A Cybernetic Eye with many of the creators.

pls be good and do well

>>83585211
>>83585271
>>83585285
Damn. Rev's got brass ones.

>>83585271
>I can't draw to save my life, no
Okay. I won't pry further. That's your business.

>>83585336
I know they said fall but is the YA stuff really not coming out until November (or later)? that's quite a wait

I am looking forward to them though, hope they don't flop

>>83585256

those aren't 10 bucks and insanely easy to find.

also no Deadshot but like 3 fucking Jokers

>>83585256
>Medicom of RAH fame
Nice. The figures have a strong chance of being Actually Good.

>>83585200
>>83585271
His plan was designed to get me into a situation where I'd be getting pressured by the expiration date/literal eviction and would have to buy at maximum price, overbid, and get out of his hair ASAP. God, realtors are horrible.

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>>83585367
Nothing's set for sure, but I feel kind of more engaged in the world than I have in a long while, so that's that

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>>83585394
That's, like, report to the realtor's association category of shit

>>83585412

i downloaded ditko shade bc of Squad and i need to get to reading all of it. (all 7 issues)

>>83585388

You know Funkos are literally the same body and head with minor mold differences? They're literally 2 dollars of plastic and chinese slave labor in one toy.

>>83585385
One is coming out in the November I think, but DP is out in September and the other two in October.

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>>83585427
Yeah, the current Iranians have very long memories about the Shah.

>>83585447
oh, that's good then

>>83585439

yes and until you can show me a better, cheaper, easier to find Deadshot I'll jump ships.

>>83585330
>Also, talking penis was best girl.
Huh. There's this doujin I have been trying to find for ages where there's a high school lad who's penis happens to be a young lady. He jerks her off, and she kind of spits up semen. Then he meets another guy with the same affliction, only this one's girl penis has an afro. The two(four) end up in the locker room and the girls do some yuri stuff, while the boys reluctantly start making out.

It was pretty hot. Wish I knew what it was called so I could fined it again.

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>>83585449
FTLOG don't send in Major Force

...maybe we SHOULD read early Kyle

>>83585427
>>83585449
I wish they taught this era in schools. It's so spicy.

>>83585473

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khX8qTPEA-M

I'm actually excited for this, I think the big reason is JrJr will give a shit.
https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/740007408307699713
Also his AR in Dark Knight Last Crusade looks really good.

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>>83585497
Ooh, this is good stuff.

>>83585517
Batman and Batfam means less faces to draw off-model. There are greater chances for success.

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>>83585541
For you young'ns, I think Ostrander is making a veiled comment on the situation herein:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Eagleton

It's a very sad story.

>>83585504

Still too modern. also just too much of a clusterfuck to explain. like they don't teach us about all the shit the CIA did to stop commies

>>83585507

>55$ on Amazon

ok buddy.

>>83585542
I would so love to see him and Samnee on a Nightwing bi-weekly book.

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>>83585586
BIG BRASS CHURCH BELLS, that man has

>>83585595
Shit, you still get ugly fights about how to teach the Civil War in schools, Iran-Contra/kill the commies would take it fully nuclear

>>83585586

i just fear and loathing on the campaign trail a few weeks ago so i actually know that shit now!

>>83585633

i'm very blessed to live in the south and the teachers i've had got it. learned the "It was about State's rights!" "Yeah, right to own people!" retort very early.

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>>83585633
this....well...no spoilers, please

>>83584792
Jesus Light, get it together

>>83585595
>Like they don't teach us about all the shit the CIA did to stop commies
Oh, but we know all about that. Turns out the CIA's job was actually done by a crazy mercenary and his band of wacky companions. You remember in school how they taught us about that incident in South America with the giant robot running on an A.I modeled after that legendary traitor soldier, right?

>>83585595

>buying from third party sellers on Amazon

Are you retarded? I found at least three on ebay for 30 bucks.

But if you want to be a shallow normie and have the equivalent of a bad Happy Meal on a toy, be my guest.

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>>83585666
one of my HS teachers had a framed portrait of Robert E. Lee in the classroom, sent one kid to VMI and the other to the Citadel...and taught us the straight-up brutal truth about it all.

>>83585633
The way our school taught Vietnam was fucking irresponsible.

The only good thing was they got an honest to god Veteran in there to tell us what an absolute shit show it was on the ground.

>>83585586
Thanks for the supplement. Osty and Yale treat the kids of today well.

>>83585719

30 bucks isn't better!

>>83585669

SEEMS LEGIT

>>83585669
Heh. They're not hiding anything. It's right there.

>>83585727
My grandfather fought in Korea. We never even spoke about Korea.

And I'm not old, I was in high school a decade ago.

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>>83585720
this is fucking great, because it's true

Ben's face is amazing

>>83585867
Best page.

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>>83585867

>>83585666
>learned the "It was about State's rights!" "Yeah, right to own people!" retort very early.
Too bad that's not as effective online. Only way to stop a civil war thread from going south is to get everyone arguing about Barbecue.

>>83585867

that's how you use a beat panel

>>83585891
Love ya, Tiger.

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>>83585891
>Andy Khouri: Aquaman Rebirth: this one's gonna surprise people.

>Flash Rebirth: nailed it.

>>83585748

I spent 80 something on my Mezco Dredd. Total sex in leather.

http://www.mezcotoyz.com/one-12-collective-judge-dredd-action-figure

>>83585959
that's good to hear, I'm looking forward to those and Wondy

that preview art on Aquaman was a little disappointing though

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>>83585959
Poll time: characters who the Big Two clearly tried to make happen with a will--they got promotion, page time, quality writing, A-lister artists--and still didn't work, GO

>>83585961
Hnnng. I'm not into Dredd, but I can appreciate the attention to Dredd proportions.

>>83586008
ALPHA LOOLOLOLOLOLO

>>83585961

Also, waited a half a year for it. Was so tempted to buy the bike with it as well.

http://www.mezcotoyz.com/one-12-collective-judge-dredd-lawmaster

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>>83585867
Ben's fuckin' face!

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>>83586008
>>83586011
that's some serious detailing

>>83585116
Leaving the country for a month tomorrow.
Visiting the motherland.

>>83586008
Iron-man post david michelinie bob layton, and busiek run.

>>83585961

there's a like 75 dollar Daredevil coming out that looks amazing and i can't bring myself to spend

>>83586071
I heard Spring's alright in Best Korea.

>>83586071
Where are you going dave. i am leaving too in one month.

>>83586086
I got their Spock and it was like 70 bucks but it's super cute so I don't mind

their Shazam figure looks pretty good

>>83586008

Barry Allen

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>>83586071
woah, have fun, Dave!

>>83586116
heee

No, no, I'm thinking like DnA-era Cosmic Darkhawk, you know?

>>83586103
Is that the vibe I give off? Haha.

>>83586110
Ecuador.
Farming mountain country.

>>83586140
Thanks Storytimer!

>>83586140
And Wraith .

>>83586114
Thank goodness I don't like the face sculpt on Shazam. I might be the kind of person with a three-digit /toy/ budget, but I'm so picky about that stuff.

http://www.mezcotoyz.com/one-12-collective-the-flash
>Lens cowl

must resist urge to buy and pretend it's Wally

>>83586140

i was actually gonna use 90s Darkhawk as an example but wasn't sure how well it worked.

Johns and Firestorm is another one.

>>83586011

They consulted with a 2000 AD artist to make it. The muppet angry face is a bit much in 3D but makes the figure.

>>83586086

It's actually a pretty good value considering it's fabric over a doll body. With Dredd you can even unzip it down to the torso if you roll that way. Doll collectors drop up to 500 on bodies and clothing.

>>83586149
>Ecuador.
>Farming mountain country.
Cool goodluck

>>83586149
Nah, I just like pretending people taking vacations are all going to Pyongyang.

>>83586008
Alpha? Remember Spider-man's sidekick that everybody fucking hated but Marvel kept insisting he was gonna be huge

>>83586116
Still sold better than Wally's ongoing so it's a win. :^)

>>83586008
Let's be completely honest with ourselves on this one.

The New Warriors.

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>>83586159
Yeah, there's some nostalgia out there for original Firestorm, but I feel like they've cycled him through a lot of ideas and none have managed to advance the character much beyond said original. He, more than almost anyone I can think of, reverts back to the original template, even if now it's Jason instead of Stein.

>>83586188

Spiderman had a sidekick? Named Alpha?

>>83586172
>With Dredd you can even unzip it down to the torso if you roll that way
shit, really? dolls with fabric clothes shouldn't be so hard to undress, I couldn't get Spock's pants off

>>83586172
Some of those high-end dolls are pretty as fuck, but thank god I'm a hamhands and I know it. Otherwise I'd be tempted.

>>83586190
I want to work at Marvel and bring him back.

>>83586176
Sounds like heaven

>>83586174
Thanks
I just hope Wacky Raceland drops early so I can do it before I head out.

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>>83586172

I'd probably get Daredevil over Flash bc the fabric looks more natural on him but man dat smile

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>>83586205

>>83586212
Andy Maguire

>>83586205
>third panel
The late Shah, I presume?

>>83586245
it's kinda creepy, like when people smile with gums showing

>>83583010
>70's Doom Patrol
Man I don't know why I can't get excited for this team. They aren't as lovable as the 60's team, and while those guys aren't exactly as bizarre as they were intended to be, the 70's members are even more "normal." They're like the forgettable middle child of the line.

>>83583602
>I...I have no idea what's going on here.

It looks like the chumps Waller roped in to fight the Doom Patrol just destroyed their bomb manacles so as to make everything worse.

>>83586234
This

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>>83586263
no, that's the Ayatollah Khomeini

DAMMIT BOOMER

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>>83586220

FRANK THE FRANK

>>83586247
I really want somebody to kill Major Victory.

He's just such a douchecanoe, even when he's technically right.

>>83586245
That's not quite Japanese Woody levels, but it's getting there. Yikes.

>>83586271
>like when people smile with gums showing
they can't help it anon, some people are just gummy