JSA Storytime: Suicide Squad

>Kupperberg
Uh-oh

>>83456966
I enjoy seeing all the tweets of CW2 not selling as well as hoped

>>83456966
>there's a real place on Earth where GA Rebirth outsells CW2

>>83435953

>>83457009
same

I know the tweets mean pretty much nothing but I enjoy it anyway

>>83456966
Hello Storyteller.

Are you okay? You went kinda loopy on us last night.

File: checkmate #15 pg01.jpg (239KB, 1000x1559px) Image search: [Google]

239KB, 1000x1559px

>>83456966
How are we collectively shitting ourselves in Comics World today?

>>83457014
sad that it will still do well due to variants and not actual market demand

>>83457035
>Brevoort: In terms of Rhodey, we were not unaware that killing Rhodey meant we’d have a story where an African American character dies, which is something that happens prevalently in our medium. That’s a conversation that we had. In our particular retreat where we talked about this, Ta’Nehisi Coates was in the retreat for the first time. He heard all of this, and afterwards, he sent a long missive to myself and Axel, which we forwarded to Brian and we all spoke about, in terms of what he thought the reaction would be and what the ramifications would be, that we had to consider that from all sides. And we have.

File: checkmate #15 pg02.jpg (202KB, 1000x764px) Image search: [Google]

202KB, 1000x764px

>>83457032
I didn't go buy any vodka :(

>>83457035
Negative reviews of CW2 are finally coming out. I'm happy.

Sucks that Shulkie's death is barely a footnote for most, but it's technically not confirmed.

Also, previews keep making like Wanda is trying to sex Billy. I like it

>>83457035
more of the usual

I have seen disappointingly few people upset about Rhodey and Shulkie though. people are still too mad about Captain Hydra to get mad at those yet I guess

>>83457035

usual. lotta yelling about fanfic. Marvel not listening to TNC got me rolling.

>>83457061
>all those jokes about Coates being incredibly out of place at the Marvel writers meeting were true

>>83457061
>which is something that happens prevalently
I call bullshit. Lots of people die in comics all the time regardless of race/gender/what have you. Cheap drama is pretty colorblind.

File: checkmate #15 pg03.jpg (219KB, 1000x1565px) Image search: [Google]

219KB, 1000x1565px

>>83457061
"He told us 'this is fucking stupid' and we ignored it"?

>>83457091
I've started to see fussing about Rhodey and Shulkie, and the debate of whether 'fridging' is applicable. I'm wavering because I like a tight definition, but it DOES seem Rhodey being ded is mainly "make Tony feel bad", but that's also the plot in and of itself, soo

>>83457091
>>83457098
Nobody cares about garbage characters like War Hammer and She-Hulk

>>83457097
>thirsty Wally fans get it and cause it to go into a fourth printing

>>83457111
How do you not listen to TNC? He's famous for broadly recognized as being good at his job.

>>83457121
Never heard of the "black guy dies first" trope?

>>83457042
Ryan Higgins @RyanHigginsRyan 4 hours ago
>Just sold out of the main cover of Batman Rebirth #1, more than double what we've sold of Civil War 2 #1, all covers.

File: this happened.jpg (67KB, 600x355px)

67KB, 600x355px

>the reason Rhodey is getting a real funeral is because of Coates

>>83457159
That's mostly movies. Not as much of a thing in comics.

>>83457097
So... much... Photoshop...

>>83457163
This guy's shop is in California, apparently at least one area code there has taste.

File: checkmate #15 pg04.jpg (227KB, 1000x1565px) Image search: [Google]

227KB, 1000x1565px

>>83457162
Walker, definitely

heey, it's Valentina Vostok, who Rucka would use briefly in Checkmate

File: MINORITIES IN MATCHBOXES.jpg (472KB, 1280x1960px)

472KB, 1280x1960px

>>83457121
No it's not, really. A-listers skew pretty white, and the B-listers and C-listers that get killed off for cheap drama are more likely to be not white.

>>83457162
David Walker, I don't think Coates will write another comic after BP, at least not at Marvel.

>>83457162
Walker

>>83457266
I have no choice but to imagine you're a 7'4" Russian

>>83457252
I'm cracking up that his first summit was apparently the one where they decided to kill a black guy first so he sent Brevoort and Alonso and Bendis an email which they apparently ignored

>>83457128
Here's your (You)

File: checkmate #15 pg05.jpg (239KB, 1000x1565px) Image search: [Google]

239KB, 1000x1565px

>>83457252
Bless his heart, TNC has discovered that Comics Are Hard. And he can afford to only take gigs he really wants to, and I suspect he'll only be offered stuff where they want that imprimatur of 'authenticity'.

>>83457163
What, with quality variants like this? >>83437839

>>83457306
Fucking Land

File: checkmate #15 pg06.jpg (229KB, 1000x1565px) Image search: [Google]

229KB, 1000x1565px

>>83457301
ho shit it's my one true home upon this earth

>>83457167
So is it She-Hulk that's getting buried in a tarp?

>>83457317
The ass-pose woman doesn't even have booty, classic Land.

>>83457301

I wonder if he signed to do anything after 12 issues of Black Panther.

>>83457330

awkward double grave with Bruce.

>>83457009
Civil War 2 started and ended for me at She-Hulk casually jumping onto a helicarrier in a pair of mirror shades.

>>83457350
How does it happen? Like, he can trace hips can't he? Is it some strange form of agnosia?

File: checkmate #15 pg07.jpg (223KB, 1000x1565px) Image search: [Google]

223KB, 1000x1565px

>>83457328
what's this about Clint I hear?

>>83457136
it's genius really

>>83457087
Not that anon but that's not really answering the question, huh?

>>83457412
As I said when I first read that issue, it's a lot funnier when you remember there's a lot of thick clouds under the Helicarrier, so she probably missed and had to try again a few times.

I really hate the attitude of current generation writers that somehow they become popular enough, they're above writing capeshit. Hickman's shitpost on Twitter really pissed me off.

>>83457420
Remember that art tutorial where he literally traces a picture of a model but deliberately narrows her hips? Dude just hates booty I guess

>>83457392
The Chulk preview suggests Bruce is just walking around somewhere. So...more likely that Amadeus would join her in green motorboat heaven.

File: checkmate #15 pg08.jpg (268KB, 1000x1565px) Image search: [Google]

268KB, 1000x1565px

>>83457442

>>83457442
There's a rumor going around that he's going to kill a Hulk-less Bruce Banner, because Bendis can't do an event without shitting on Hawkeye.

>>83457442
People are guessing he's gonna kill Bruce Banner

>Lemire's book was a failure compared to Fraction's
>Marvel basically saying Kate is gonna get a solo
>we know a hero kills a hero
>he's on Carol's side
>Bendis doesn't care about him

>>83457467

I forgot Cho was a Hulk. Is Hawkeye gonna kill a kid?

File: checkmate #15 pg09.jpg (221KB, 1000x1565px) Image search: [Google]

221KB, 1000x1565px

>>83457471

>>83457442
dude perched on a fucking lampost, budda

>>83457460
Which shitpost on twitter?

>>83457481
>>83457488
oh geez, does that mean skaar's coming back to earth?

File: checkmate #15 pg10.jpg (214KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

214KB, 1000x1552px

>>83457481
>>83457488
jesus on a fucking pogo stick

Also, why is Clint the "let's rehab villains" on the PUNISH FUTURE CRIME side?

I saw that Thunderbolts art and I think I've nope.jpg'd out.

>>83457488
But how will it be Scarlet Witch's fault?

>>83457460
>Hickman's shitpost on Twitter
Which one?

>>83457488
what if Bruce and Clint kill each other

can Bendis possibly give Clint a worse death than Disassembled?

>>83457442
Just a rumor but

>Ulysses sees a vision about Hulk fucking up stuff
>Carol's side is told about it
>not everyone is aware that Cho is Hulk
>Clint kills Bruce before he becomes Hulk and fucks up stuff

screencap this anon
You know Bendis will do this

File: checkmate #15 pg11.jpg (247KB, 1000x1617px) Image search: [Google]

247KB, 1000x1617px

>>83457540
look at that "fuck this shit I'm done" walk

>>83457540
>I saw that Thunderbolts art and I think I've nope.jpg'd out.
No 3 issue rule? You were the one holding out for Zub's understanding of the characters. I mean, we read all that 90s art already, it's not a dealbreaker for me.

>>83457545
Wanda's titty game makes Billy think he's turning ungay, so he sexually molests Clint, traumatizing him into a murder-spree?

>>83457540
Because nobody behind Civil War cares about Hawkeye or reads comics more than 10 years old.

>>83457540
>Also, why is Clint the "let's rehab villains" on the PUNISH FUTURE CRIME side?
because Bendis doesn't care about him.

Carol's side is like 90% characters he doesn't care about.

File: checkmate #15 pg12.jpg (244KB, 1000x1552px)

244KB, 1000x1552px

>>83457574
so what I'm getting from all this is that Bendis is writing unintentional black comedy

>>83457488
I was thinking I would probably like Civil War 2 a lot better if it was specifically the Ultimates who decided on stopping future crime and the book was them vs. everyone else.

>>83457592
90s art is acceptable when it is actually from the 90s, less so in 2016 with that awful coloring

>>83457630

I don't think it's unintentional.

>>83457630
Yeah. That's actually really accurate.

>>83457460
To be fair once you've done it long enough it must be really dreary to read new superhero comics, let alone write them. It's like sitcom writers often don't enjoy watching sitcoms. They've done the formula so many times, they know every story beat in advance.

Whether creator-owned comics are such hot shit, I don't know; I think the current Image generation is a bit weak on characters because they don't have multiple writers' perspectives fleshing them out. But I don't really blame the writers for being over it.

>>83457540
>Also, why is Clint the "let's rehab villains" on the PUNISH FUTURE CRIME side?
Well, I can actually kinda see it. If he wants to reform villains, by working for Carol he can get those people some therapy to weed out those villainous tendencies before they have a chance to manifest.


>I saw that Thunderbolts art and I think I've nope.jpg'd out.
Sad how they gave the T-Bolts such a big push, only to have terrible art in the ongoing.

File: checkmate #15 pg13.jpg (258KB, 1000x1563px) Image search: [Google]

258KB, 1000x1563px

>>83457592
I'm trying, but the more I look at it the more I realized I'm deluding myself that it'll ever be okay

>>83457654
It's totally unintentional, come on. Bendis has the self-awareness of a plum.

>>83457521
>>83457552
https://twitter.com/JHickman/status/738411328327520256
https://twitter.com/JHickman/status/738413431326412800
https://twitter.com/JHickman/status/738415647240114176
I'll admit third one is funny.
I just don't understand holier than thou attitude. Rucka gave up his creator owned because of his Wondy passion project. Morrison is still writing for DC after all these years because he loves the characters.

>>83457675
Ha, that's pretty brutal! I'm gonna give it 3 issues anyway.

File: checkmate #15 pg14.jpg (253KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

253KB, 1000x1552px

>>83457675
It's not like cheap vodka, where there really IS a hill of "I'm drunk enough I can't tell what shit this is" you can get over the top of.

>>83457674
how long until they bribe bubu into coming back and rescuing the series

>>83457697
I kind of think you're wrong and he's wrong. There's nothing wrong with a writer wanting to not write superhero comics, but right now in the American industry to reach certain segments of the market you have to write cape stuff before you can write other stuff (and usually you have to write other stuff before you write cape stuff...)

I dislike the Image wanking because a lot of Image does nothing for me, but I understand why so many creators love it. I just wish... they actually came out with more imaginative books, I guess.

But I'm not much of a Hickman fan either, so if he wants to stay out of it that's fine by me.

File: dat voice tho.png (54KB, 610x296px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 610x296px

my answer is Martin Sheen

>>83457676

Killing Hawkeye is 100% a joke at this point.

File: checkmate #15 pg15.jpg (246KB, 1000x1596px) Image search: [Google]

246KB, 1000x1596px

>>83457697
Remender basically said Black Science is the F4 he never got to write

>>83457771
same Khouri

>>83457671
Repetitive books is a slightly different problem from too many superhero comics IMO.

File: checkmate #15 pg16.jpg (219KB, 1000x1554px) Image search: [Google]

219KB, 1000x1554px

>>83457775

>>83457771
I actually really hate bassy voices, I'd pick Derryberry because reasons.

>>83457775
Black Science doesn't do much for me desu. Shit I'd probably like it better if it was the F4, there'd be more to work with.

File: checkmate #15 pg17.jpg (264KB, 1000x1552px)

264KB, 1000x1552px

>>83457767
I think I have had enough of Hickman's preferred tics and style for now, because if you read enough you really see the recycling

>>83457671
I understand it but expecting big 2 model to change and acting as if you're above capeshit just pisses me off. Capeshit makes 90% of these writers. Then again not everyone is as passionate about big 2 and why would you be when in the end it's about paycheck and paycheck is bigger at Image than Marlel or Damage Control.

>>83457697
Morrison is one of very few writers who can write superheroes for a long time without burning out, though. It helps that a lot of his work gets to stand on its own unconnected to events.

Brubaker recently said in his newsletter that he stopped writing superheroes because the slog of events and reboots and shocking twists wore him out.

Plus if you write superheroes for long enough eventually you will run out of characters you write well. Brubaker really connected with Captain America. But he was not a good fit on X-Men.

>>83457767
>I just wish... they actually came out with more imaginative books, I guess.
Yeah, there's barely anything at Image that actually grabs my attention. So much of it just looks completely bland.

File: checkmate #15 pg18.jpg (251KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

251KB, 1000x1552px

>>83457834
this comic is not very exciting

>>83457771
Based Khouri

>>83457873
A lot of it has similar elements that mash-up with similar characters. Not all, definitely, but Image fatigue is for sure a thing.

The next Image book I buy will probably be the K6BD release.

>>83457767
>I just wish... they actually came out with more imaginative books, I guess.
has Image stopped being like 50% sci fi yet

>>83457844
Agreed.

>>83457875
Yeah, it's kind of...there.

File: checkmate #15 pg19.jpg (252KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

252KB, 1000x1552px

>>83457875
>>83457844
Bru won't even talk about Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire and I don't blame him

>>83457771
Claudia Black, maybe.

>>83457911
What was that? An x-men arc that didn't pan out?

>>83456966
This really didn't need to be eleven parts.

>>83457911
... Am I the only one who liked War of Kings?

>>83457708
Cheap vodka is a bad time. I always get a nightmare hangover from the bargain stuff - wake up feeling like my skeleton is about to step out of my skin.

>>83457115
>All the jokes here were posted by Coates himself

File: checkmate #15 pg20.jpg (255KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

255KB, 1000x1552px

>>83457911
so many Image pitches are Big Two with the serial numbers filed off

>>83457935
it's all that stuff with Vulcan, the Lost Summers Brother

>>83457943
I liked some of War of Kings; Hickman's wrecking of that Inhuman status quo sucked

>>83457943

That was DnA wasn't it? I remember liking it

>>83457844

Even on Cap you could tell Bru was running out of steam.

>>83457975
We need to save him, anons

>>83457767
>I just wish... they actually came out with more imaginative books, I guess.
Yeah, I wish all Jojo's Bizarre Adventure fans would get rounded up and shot.

Life is kind of unfair that way, sadly.

File: checkmate #15 pg21.jpg (233KB, 1000x1572px) Image search: [Google]

233KB, 1000x1572px

>>83457952
you haven't had a hangover until your hair has ached

>>83457943
>>83457977
I tolerate the X-Men Vulcan stuff only because I got into it after it was over, knowing it was all a prequel to War of Kings.

>>83457771
Khouri is literally me

>>83457993
legit praying he doesn't get duffie'd

>>83457999
I just used to shake off booze until a couple of years ago, then I really started to get it bad.

File: checkmate #15 pg22.jpg (237KB, 1000x1552px)

237KB, 1000x1552px

>>83457999
right, now shit should pick up

>>83457995
Love you too.

File: checkmate #15 pg23.jpg (206KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

206KB, 1000x1552px

>>83458036
goddamn, Ben

>>83458051

>literal chess set

yfw Despro

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-000.jpg (2MB, 1985x3056px)

2MB, 1985x3056px

>>83458051

>>83457995
JJBA has qualities that push it beyond the similar books it sits with. Kind of like Prison School that way actually.

The visible influences Araki displays are really interesting, especially how his male characters are inspired by gay fetish art.

>>83458084
THANK GOD DOG, OSTRANDER'S BACK

>>83458051
dat bulge

>>83458023
L O N D O N

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-001.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px)

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458099
not for good, sorry

>>83458087
dude/not dude is always a fun Jojo game to play

>>83458081
I love chess themes

>>83458084
I love this cover too

>>83458087
Araki's a bit more well-traveled than your average mangaka (not that I take that lightly, you have to be successful to afford to get out of the grind), and it shows.

>>83458122
I'm still shocked Narancia was a boy.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-002.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458122
ho shit, Snyder?

You might remember him as Prester John in Mage

>>83458122
E I L I N G
I
L
I
N
G

CAN'T DISSUADE THE WADE

>>83458122
It only works if you show people women, but I don't mind

>>83458157
Okay, just Narancia. And maybe Booch if you only show a headshot.

File: IMG_20160604_061541.jpg (184KB, 675x640px) Image search: [Google]

184KB, 675x640px

Is there any hope for HJAGLC?

>>83458087
I don't care. I hate Jojo fans, and I want them to go away.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-003.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458160
feel free to TRY to kill Eiling, no one's managed yet...

>>83457807
Sure, but some genres really are more formulaic than others. Doesn't make them bad but it means people burn out on them.

It's like Conan Doyle tried to kill off Sherlock Holmes.

>>83457993
We should all write him get well cards.

>>83458187
I'm expecting more of the same considering Venditti is still on the book so in short, no

>>83458188
Too bad.

>>83458187
Handjobs Almost Give Lesbians Comas?

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-004.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px)

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458197

>>83457875
It feels weird that they had an opera but didn't show it, especially because they could have brought in a chess/checkmate/plotting theme there. Why have the opera house? Just to ground it in a location?

>>83458253
I thought it was just to show how 'hip' the dude was, hating opera but loving the Talking Heads.

>>83458234
That reminds me, are we confirmed for HCs of Part 3? I guess if Japan isn't doing it, we wouldn't get any, but I haven't looked.

>>83458187
That is the clunkiest title of all time

Worse than Batman and the Outsiders

>>83458201
I think at its core the idea of a superhero is a really open concept. It's like the idea of magical powers, or really any fantastical element. So there's a lot that can extend to.

Even writing in the shared DC or Marvel universe has brought us stuff like Dial H or Omega Men. Blame editorial for this sameness rather than writers, probably (and the people buying).

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-005.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458253
I think so. Also, someone barely scouted it out, because the inside of the Met is infamously not a very good place to have a large gala like that, even if you move the restaurant tables out of the way. But it's a beautiful and striking building.

Might be something interesting here
http://www.newsarama.com/29599-dc-s-didio-lee-on-whether-rebirth-was-a-repudiation-or-not-of-watchmen-and-the-new-52.html

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-006.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458311
There was an issue of something with Daken and Osborn going to the opera where the penciller hadn't done *any* research at how the interior of the Met looks for people sitting in boxes, or the writer on what was in possible repertory

yeah, I know, I know

File: 1413210254380.jpg (15KB, 134x134px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 134x134px

>>83458241
...Anon. I'm gonna need you to go ahead and stop saying things.

>>83458373
>Daken and Osborn going to the opera
This sounds really great and I bet it wasn't actually at all.

>>83458394 (You)

>>83458301
We are. I preordered the first one on Amazon.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-007.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px)

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458373
the names on the Force of July bust me the fuck up

Also, if you don't love Count Vertigo yet, you will

>>83458311
I like that first panel a lot.

>>83457540
>I saw that Thunderbolts art and I think I've nope.jpg'd out.

Marvel seems to change artists up enough that I'm hoping it doesn't take too long here for it to happen

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-008.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458428
>>83458459
that reminds me, who's filling in for Stelfreeze?

>>83458421
Hot damn, I'm on it.

The redraws on the covers are pretty damn cute, even though I'm not fond of nuCaesar. There's just something about OG's hair and cheeks that he's not putting back in.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-009.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458495

So Spencer talked in a podcast about how he's intentionally writing Zemo as going rather backwards in his development, seeing him as having been on a downward spiral since Bucky became Cap. He's makes it sound like he's going SOMEWHERE with it, and that Helmut will have a moment where he looks at himself and asks "what the fuck am I doing?"

>>83458420
Yeah, you're just further proving why you should stop saying things.

And yes, that counts, smartass.

>Jai Courtney explained that Captain Boomerang is a big a-hole!
>“He’s sexist, he’s racist, he’s a total piece of shit and that’s something I’ve embraced fully,” Courtney said. “It’s Boomer’s job to state the obvious, do the wrong thing and annoy everybody with his ignorance.”

>>83458531
I don't trust Spencer an inch with that shit.

>>83458545
(You)

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-010.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px)

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458531
/o\

not sure if want, but if done cleverly enough, that IS a way to deal with Bru/Waid/Hopeless/Remender

>>83458565
I don't mistrust that Boomers gonna Boom, but I wonder whether he'll have any significant screentime to be best worst best Australian.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-011.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458598

File: boomed in the butt by my own boomer.jpg (31KB, 200x197px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 200x197px

>>83458629

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-012.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458629
no comment needed

>>83458678
10/10

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-013.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458678
ILU

I'm not going to pay to vote, but if I were, Chuck Tingle all the way

>>83458612
He needs to save the day by sheer accident.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-014.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458710

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-015.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px)

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458759
don't make him mad

>>83458678
>filename
I'd have gone with "poor lil' Aussie boy", but that works too.

>>83458531
Link?

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-016.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458779
oh no, it's a libertarian

>>83458801
hi ron paul

>>83458779
Okay I love Lady Liberty here.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-017.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458828
Ron Paul was the best wordfilter

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-018.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458874

>>83458373
I can always tell when the writer or penciller hasn't done quite enough research on the opera.

Like in Batman: Hush Batman says his parents loved the great composers "but especially Leoncavallo." Leoncavallo only wrote one opera that's popular.

This is not a bad thing *at all*, it's just that it brings home to me how many things in fiction feel just *slightly* wrong to people who know the subject inside out.

>>83458531

i told yall there was a plan

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-019.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458896
...that's great, author is trying to be even higher brow and fucks up instead

>>83458794
http://wordballoon.blogspot.ca/2016/05/word-balloon-podcast-captain-america.html

Zemo talk starts around 00:49.

>>83458801
His two expressions don't sync up.

>>83458896
I was so pleased when Superboy didn't implicitly go to the Bishop Museum, but interior-wise, it was clear as water he was there and at least the artist did the research. Pre-internet days, yo.

>>83458304
Batman and the Outsiders is at least better than, ugh, Aquaman and the Others.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-020.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83458925
WHOOPS

>>83458977
Equally clunky, but Outsiders sounds cooler than Others.

>>83458977
Could Johns not come up with a better name for them than "Others"?

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-021.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px)

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83459002
It's our favorite scheming bastard!

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 027-022.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83459046
ha ha you're fucked

>>83459002
>Dr. Light, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Infanticide

>>83458925
That's Loeb for you. Pre-dead son Loeb at that.

>>83458832
Why? She's utterly ridiculous, and not remotely in a good way. If she was literally the Statue of Liberty come to life, then I'd be with you. But she's just some crazy cosplayer bitch.

But then, the Force of July seem like the kind of assholes who would hate the Statue of Liberty because she's French, so whatever.

File: tmp_16244-Outsidersposter-1972082955.jpg (21KB, 281x417px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 281x417px

>>83458977
>>83459033
>the Outsiders weren't around during DC's movie variant month

>>83458977
At least it's not Superboy and the Ravers

>>83459067
>major force
>lois lane
oh lois, honey, no

>>83459046
That's not Vril.

>>83458977
>>83459033
What about Superboy and the Ravers?

>>83459109
10/10 name

File: checkmate #16 pg00.jpg (177KB, 1000x1552px)

177KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459084
we'll have some Loeb on our tour of "what the fuck happened to Nathaniel Adam"

>>83459139
Superman/Batman?

>>83459086
>tfw midnighter didn't get any gag covers
>pulp fiction with prometheus as uma thurman

File: checkmate #16 pg01.jpg (192KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

192KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459108
True, true

>(Someone's going "oh, so @tanehisicoates should get special treatment?!" Yes, he fucking should. Go write Marvel's highest-selling comic.)

Errr, I don't disagree that listening to TNC on "not killing the black dude" is a good idea, but let's all be honest about how and why BP sold what it did and let's see where it lands at #5 or so once LCSes have adjusted for actual demand.

>>83459174
yep

>>83459117
Too bad it wasn't a very good book.

File: Action_Comics_598.jpg (77KB, 400x614px)

77KB, 400x614px

This was the first time I heard of old-school Checkmate, and it actually made me a little interested in them. Shame the actual comic seems to blow chunks.

>>83459227
It had some good waifus.

>>83459197
I love it when people aren't aware of how comics work

BP does of the advantage of being pushed and not having a book before ANAD but I imagine it'll end up selling around Dr Strange

File: checkmate #16 pg02.jpg (247KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

247KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459241
It's very no-powers-actual-espionage, hence an acquired sort of taste, I think

here, have page 2, and not page 3

>>83459324
Fucking lol, the plaster is just on his fucking hair?

File: checkmate #16 pg03.jpg (258KB, 1000x1552px)

258KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459294
It's from someone who ought to know better but sometimes I wonder about. But I guess it's technically true as of the right now, so I'm just nitpicking for its own sake, as I like to do.

So, are we all in agreement that Willshot/Boomer is likely to be the breakout gay porn fountain from SS, if anything at all?

I don't see Rick getting enough screentime to get any lewds.

>>83459241
>Metroplis

>>83459250
Wait, Babylon got killed?

>>83459373
B-but Boomer is racist!
baka~

>>83459373
Get your mind out of the gutter.

File: checkmate #16 pg04.jpg (223KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

223KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459359
>This man has written your highest selling book in YEARS.

It was a perfect storm for the #1--how many variants did it have, and what ratios were they at?

that Peacemaker helmet does not work

>>83459266
Yeah, but in spite of what /co/ says, waifus are not enough.

>>83459373
Rick Flag/Nemesis m8.

>>83459425
that makes it even better, i bet dudeshoot has to teach boomer-kun black people don't have black cum manually

>>83459450
But arent' they, anon?! AREN'T THEY?!

File: checkmate #16 pg05.jpg (230KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

230KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459463
is Nemesis in the movie?

>>83459373
No, but we can probably all agree that shippers are subhuman garbage who should all die in a fire.

>>83459444
That one dude's suit reminds me of Booster's.

>>83459444
The Peacemaker helmet is great, fight me.

>>83459444
This was the first time I read Peacemaker in something that wasn't Giffen/Rogers Blue Beetle. It was a bit jarring.

>>83459463
He's not casted.

BUT WE HAVE SLIPKNOT

HE COULD BE A WEALTH OF BONDAGE KINK BECAUSE HE'S TOTALLY GOING TO SURVIVE THE WHOLE MOVIE

>>83459493
Unconfirmed, but there are hints Scott Eastwood's character is him.

File: PAX-7.jpg (186KB, 1000x776px) Image search: [Google]

186KB, 1000x776px

>>83459444

>>83459444
>in years

Uhhh
>Star Wars #1
>Secret Wars #1
>Invincible Iron Man #1
>Amazing Spider-man #1

Who's saying this and do they even pay attention to comichron because all of those are higher just there

>>83459558
>Who's saying this

Casuals.

File: checkmate #16 pg06.jpg (207KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

207KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459558
hah, data is a beautiful thing

>>83459532
hmmmm

>>83457121
>I call bullshit.
You remember the last Civil War, where the only named character to die and stay dead was a black guy?

>>83459532
Oh, Eastwood's still in the movie? I guess Steve and Nemesis are kinda interchangeable.

I don't know how you have Eastwood on tap and not use him for maximum mancandy, he's underused.

>>83456966
Hey howdy hey.
Man, I keep missing like first hour+ of these threads, and missing most of the fun convo.

That last Wally West thread was literally just me talking to myself once I started posting in it, too.


How readable is Checkmate, besides "not as readable as the OYL version"?

>>83459524
Even if he dies/gets maimed like he probably will, that's not going to stop anybody.

>>83459613
He looks just like his dad, it's crazy.

I can't be arsed to care about the Suicide Squad movie because 1) It's yet more Harley and Joker stroking, and 2) because they made my evil waifu look awful. Enchantress is edgy enough without that... whatever the hell that look is supposed to be.

>>83459524
ya'll are forgetting the joker is in this movie and people will prioritize his porn footprint

get ready for hot joke-on-rick self-inflicted hurt/comfort, kiddies

>>83459669
I liked how Cara turned up to a promo event in a classic Enchantress green dress. She looks kind of weird and pseudo-Egyptian, but I don't hate it completely.

File: checkmate #16 pg07.jpg (228KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

228KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459684
oh god, so much Jokerporn

>>83459661
Maybe he's a secret Clintbot. That's why they don't push him.

>>83459620
>OYL
?

>>83459606
No. I didn't read Civil War. Because I'm not that fucking stupid. And I don't know which character you're talking about because I only recently started reading Marvel stuff.

>>83459744
One Year Later.

>>83459744
One Year Later, aka the immediately post-Infinite Crisis DC comics.

File: ScottEastwood.jpg (632KB, 2000x2586px) Image search: [Google]

632KB, 2000x2586px

>>83459742
There's a lot of blind list stuff about him being closeted. Possibly just wishful thinking. It is an eerie resemblance.

File: checkmate #16 pg08.jpg (236KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

236KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459753
See upthread for the deeply insulting image of Bill Foster Goliath being buried in a tarp

there's a history here that's pretty unpleasant

>>83459783
>>83459784
Oh. Thanks anons.

File: checkmate #16 pg09.jpg (222KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

222KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459803

>>83459789
I want to be in a future where that is not an issue so I can watch Hollywood-budget films about men kissing men EVERY YEAR

>>83459753
If you're not familiar with Marvel or its shitty events, why are you trying to 'call bullshit' on people who are familiar with it?

>>83459866
Shut up, faggot.

File: checkmate #16 pg10.jpg (242KB, 1000x1552px)

242KB, 1000x1552px

>>83459840
Oh gosh, now a relative n00b I know is asking "why is this character in one place in one book and another in their solo?"

no good comes of trying to make continuity that month to month tight, NONE

>>83459885
Where do you think you are?

>>83459885 (You)

>>83459885
>not wanting men to kiss each other

File: checkmate #16 pg11.jpg (230KB, 1000x1550px) Image search: [Google]

230KB, 1000x1550px

>>83459885
lol where do you think you are

Connery >>>> Dalton, that's not even a contest

>>83459803
The worst part about Goliath being buried in a tarp is that it means Hudlin got to be right about something.

>>83459918
oh, boomer, too stupid to get ambushed

>>83459918
Moore's the one I don't get. Dude was practically a mummy when he was Bond.

>>83459918
This woman has shit taste.

File: checkmate #16 pg12.jpg (234KB, 1000x1553px) Image search: [Google]

234KB, 1000x1553px

>>83459949
It's that particular dirty feeling you get when you agree with him.

dat ass

>>83459908
>>83459918
A nice, God-loving Christian board of course. Fuck off, degenerates.

>>83459803
You mean this >>83457167? See, I don't really see why it's automatically the worst thing ever if a minority character dies. Yes, it sucks that it means less minority characters, but it shouldn't mean that they should be immune to anything bad happening to them ever.

Frankly, I'm against killing off characters period, but still.

>>83459985
Wow, summer came early this year.

File: superboy_and_robin_by_r6655321-d3858g6.jpg (215KB, 700x567px) Image search: [Google]

215KB, 700x567px

>>83459985
BEEP BEEP SOMEONE NEEDS A BOOSTER SHOT OF SHOTA BULGE

File: what are you babbling about.jpg (55KB, 362x524px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 362x524px

>>83459985

>>83460048
Quit getting so bootyblasted, fag. Save that for the bedroom.

File: kill it with fire.png (273KB, 372x321px) Image search: [Google]

273KB, 372x321px

>>83459985

File: checkmate #16 pg13.jpg (220KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

220KB, 1000x1552px

>>83460003
It stood out in that 1) that was a really horrible way to bury him, in a tarp--that's what you do with animals 2) other dead people before and after have come back to life, he still dead. And it's not a case where his death was a specific one that drove the story strongly and was actually about his own actions.

But I'm opposed to most character death too.

>>83460003
>black guy gets killed off unceremoniously, gets a less dignified funeral than most dogs do, nobody ever mentions him ever again
>How is this bad?

>>83460051
Hanson bites

>>83459985
I'm sorry, that's incorrect. You're on a board that consistently has a gay thread, and constantly discusses who has the best ass in DC, Hal Jordan or Dick Grayson.

>>83460102
>, nobody ever mentions him ever again

Hey, there was the Ant-Man and Wasp mini.

>>83460051
This artist did some issues of Teen Titans, right?

>>83460096
Speaking of, I finished that Damiano book last week and I wish you'd warned us about the damn dog.

>>83460075
Buy me dinner first.

>>83460133
Gay threads are shit. They belong on /aco/.

I'm opposed to character death too but only because
1) It's pointless in the current climate of comics
2) The only characters who WILL stay dead are, for the most part, characters someone will want back anyway

>>83460096
Huh, I did not realize that Bill Foster was still dead. (I think I always figured they resurrected him in some book I didn't read and then he went into limbo.) Damn.

>>83460138
Couple. Wasn't memorable and didn't have her faves in it, tho.

>>83456966
I actually liked the old Checkmate series.
I dig the vaguely futuristic espionage in a superheroic world plotline stuff, it kinda feels like MGS without the preaching and weird posing.

File: checkmate #16 pg14.jpg (235KB, 1000x1566px) Image search: [Google]

235KB, 1000x1566px

>>83460096
>>83460140
It'd been a really long time since I'd read them, sorry.

>>83460192
You think that's bad? All of the Stamford New Warriors are still dead, except Speedball. Namorita is... complicated.

>>83460220
So you're saying, revive it under Tom Taylor?

>>83460192
His son is running around.

And will probably die in CWII.

>>83458531
I want to believe him, but I just don't

File: checkmate #16 pg15.jpg (217KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

217KB, 1000x1552px

>>83460246
D: D: D:

don't even say things like that

>>83460245
that's also insulting

File: checkmate #16 pg16.jpg (249KB, 1000x1606px)

249KB, 1000x1606px

>>83460280

And then I lose another half hour to my computer crashing.

BALZAC!

>>83460245
Night Thrasher is alive.

>>83457875
A helicopter just dropped from the sky, and I don't give a shit.

Something has gone terribly wrong.

File: checkmate #16 pg17.jpg (220KB, 1000x1568px) Image search: [Google]

220KB, 1000x1568px

>>83460308

>>83460346
He is? Since when?

File: checkmate #16 pg18.jpg (219KB, 1000x1559px) Image search: [Google]

219KB, 1000x1559px

>>83460361
To be fair, we are coming in well into a run thanks to the crossover, so we have no idea who these d00ds are

>>83460361
Yeah, this is a dull few issues. Just far too long spent on these fights as well. Tiger looks like he's trying to dance in >>83460308

>>83460385
Contest of Champions.

>>83459606
Happy Hogan is still dead, anon.

File: dbca4f441ba9b8520c4d1c9976c8d525.jpg (151KB, 736x1095px) Image search: [Google]

151KB, 736x1095px

>>83460138
There was some stealth Bunker booty

File: checkmate #16 pg19.jpg (225KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

225KB, 1000x1552px

>>83460399

>>83460399
Why was that issue involved in the crossover anyway? And as the first part to boot. Just like the Firestorm issue later serves no real purpose except to move the character into place.

File: checkmate #16 pg20.jpg (252KB, 1000x1563px) Image search: [Google]

252KB, 1000x1563px

>>83460451
no shit sherlock

>>83460450
at least she got Kon's tits in the pic too

>>83460430
Happy Hogan was always dead, if only on the inside.

File: checkmate #16 pg21.jpg (260KB, 1000x1552px)

260KB, 1000x1552px

>>83460458
sales boost, natch

c-c-crop anon, you're requested, you know what you must do

File: this makes the Wall moist.jpg (32KB, 296x372px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 296x372px

>>83460451
>Waller's "I'm gonna violate you!" face
Enjoy your nightmares!

File: 13315515_1359641114052281_594923994641438801_n.jpg (45KB, 624x960px)

45KB, 624x960px

>>83460450
I also see Cass booty

she's getting bishoujo'd too

>>83460545
thank goodness it's not her horrid new 52 outfit

File: checkmate #16 pg22.jpg (250KB, 1000x1552px) Image search: [Google]

250KB, 1000x1552px

>>83460545
that's actually cute, wow.

>>83460526
I feel like Peacemaker's helmet needs to be part of his actual head. Like his brain is in there or something.

>>83460545
It's cute as fuck, but I'm a Byrnefag and I can't.

The 90s Jubes, however, snapped that shit up.

File: checkmate #16 pg23.jpg (253KB, 1000x1552px)

253KB, 1000x1552px

>>83460570

>>83458157
I gotta say, I'm still kinda skeptical.

File: Primus_OmegaMen.png (420KB, 381x471px)

420KB, 381x471px

>>83460526
Not me but this is what you want, yes?

File: checkmate #16 pg24.jpg (236KB, 1000x1552px)

236KB, 1000x1552px

>>83460601
another?

>>83460657
please

>>83460545
I fucking hate these damn things.

>>83460657
Sure, I'm kind of keen to see this. I don't know how you can hate PM's design.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 028-000.jpg (2MB, 1987x3047px)

2MB, 1987x3047px

>>83460649
that's good too

I was going for that left panel with the DRAMATIC ACTION LINES AROUND HIS FACE HE'S SERIOUS

>>83460681
Why? Questionable anatomy aside they are pretty cute

>>83460681
I need to buy some more.

>>83460048
This has nothing to do with summer.

Though, I suppose, it's always summer somewhere.

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 028-001.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px)

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83460709
I'm just not completely crazy about the big rim on the helmet. it's kind of Barda?

File: FIGURE-017521.jpg (81KB, 600x600px)

81KB, 600x600px

>>83460681
>>83460728
I like them too, he's some of the other recent ones!

>>83460681
I had no idea what they were but honestly they seem kind of neat. Not too skeevy and anime-posed DC comics girls is a niche product I'm glad exists.

>>83457540
>Also, why is Clint the "let's rehab villains" on the PUNISH FUTURE CRIME side?

Because Bendis is a fucking shitty writer who clearly plays favourites, and Clint is decidedly "unfavourite" and expendable to him?

Because Marvel can't give a shit about consistent characterization across writers?

>>83460681
Some of them are cute but others are just... no thank you

>>83460730
>Though, I suppose, it's always summer somewhere.
You know, that's almost poetic in a way. Almost.

>>83457579
So, should Checkmate be suing this guy for stealing their Chess motif, then?

>>83460736
I HOPE YOU'RE NOT SAYING BARDA HAS A BAD DESIGN

>>83460718
>cute
They exist so that lonely nerds can cover them with jizz. There's nothing cute about that.

>>83460728
You can try to spite me all you like, but you're the one losing by having those things in your house.

File: FIGURE-011722.jpg (72KB, 600x600px)

72KB, 600x600px

>>83460758
Big fan of the trend of modern Canary statues having tactile fishnets. The Bombshells one has them, too.

>>83460758
>Not too skeevy
>>83460759
lol ignore me

>>83458197
I get the feeling that the Atom Project and Force of July know about this shit too, and are being told more or less the same about Task Force X.

And this while thing is one great big Prisoner's Dilemma.

File: AFX-Black-Canary-Bishoujo-Exclusive-001.jpg (54KB, 640x960px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 640x960px

>>83460818
I want the classic Canary one

File: Suicide Squad (1987-1992) 028-002.jpg (1MB, 1988x3056px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1988x3056px

>>83460793
NO I LIKE BARDA

this seems too close but lacking the style

>>83460778
Eternal September is the internet joke of old

File: 4OQ7n.jpg (37KB, 853x480px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 853x480px

Speaking of, remember bishie Bruce?

>>83460736
I thought it look like he had a helmet and glued a toilet seat lid onto it.

>>83460545
Wish it was the late Young Justice black top instead, but still, cute.

>>83460845
The teal is good, but the blue is a little light. What a nitpick for me to make, but that's how I feel.