Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition Trailer

>>83412647
>if god is all powerful, he can not be all good
does Lex understand what this even means? because Superman is clearly not all powerful

The argument doesn't work because Superman doesn't have control over every single little thing that causes harm.

>>83412647
I'm hype for Clark Kent in Gotham. Still pissed they cut that out of the movie!

>Theatrical release: March 20
>DVD release: June 28

Kek do people still believe this wasn't a massive fuckup?

>>83412724
I don't see a problem

>>83412690
I think it was a general point that any powerful being cannot be good. Yes the logic doesn't' work but the point is more to demonstrate Lex's opinion on powerful beings rather than making a philosophical argument.

is it me or this does not feel like a Snyder Trailer?

>>83412755

Studios rush DVD releases to recoup as much as possible after box office under performance.

>>83412647
This trailer looks amazing, but I've learnt the lesson. I will not overhype it.

Something similar to this trailer should have been the 3rd trailer for the theatrical release tho, because that one was shit.

>>83412797

>$900 million

>>83412797
How much did they actually waste on marketing if their 800 million is considered underperforming?

>>83412785
Makes sense

The snyder movie flopped hard

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Wait... Jena Malone is Cat Grant?!

>>83412797
That's not a rush at all.
Nowadays the home media versions of movies are released around 3 months after the theatrical release.

Hell, Deadpool, for example, had a theatrical release at the beginning of February and the home media digital release in mid-April.

>>83412708
Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to actually getting to know Clark Kent, the reporter.

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Jena Malone as Felicity

>>83412845
Huh.

>>83412845
So much about her being Babs.

>>83412845
Is that Felicity?

>>83412724
>BvS Theatre - Home: 100 days
>Deadpool Theatre - Home: 87 days
Sure buddy.

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Here's Batman at LexCorp.

>>83412829
>>83412831

Are you really delusional enough to think BvS didn't under perform?

It's fucking Batman vs. Superman and it didn't come anywhere close to the previous two Batman movies or either of the Avengers movies.

>>83412984
Sure, they wanted a billion, but that doesn't mean the movie didn't make profit

>>83413058

Who said it didn't make a profit?

>>83412785
It doesn't, and that's a good thing.

>>83412647
I enjoyed this trailer more than the movie.

>>83413104
But in the end, that's all that really matters to big name companies.

>>83412829
>872 million

>>83412647
egh, I still think this will pull a Kingdom of Heaven.

>>83413058
It underperformed, it didn't "flop".

It was freaking Batman vs Superman. They would have had to try a LOT harder to make it suck enough to actually fail to make a profit.

It was guaranteed money. They fucked it up just enough to make -less- guaranteed money than they would/should/could have.

>>83412840
>>83413150

Funny, cuz the non-Snyder trailer spoiled Doomsday and was received the worst.

>>83413194
I meant will not.

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>>83413183
>872 million
>studio only gets half
>doesn't account for advertising

>>83413166
Well no big name companies do care about making larger profits versus smaller profits

>>83412647
The masterpiece gets masterpiecer. Cannot wait.

>>83413183
meanwhile the avengers got 1.5 billion dollars

>>83413058
They did make profit, but they underperform. It's subjetive. If I go to an ATP and lose on second round, I'd be very proud of myself. If Djokovic gets out on second round it's a fiasco.

BvS was supposed to be the fucking McEnroe of capefilms.

>>83412858
Wait but didn't she dye her hair for the role?

>>83413300
>BvS
>masterpiece

It has like four good scenes, and all of those are just because of Batman.

>>83412690
Superman literally decides to ignore people in trouble when he could hear them.

>>83412847
What....people dont have any fucking patience anymore?.

Cant studios show balls and stop cathering to idiots and retards?

>>83413414
Only one part in the movie where he makes an effort to save people that aren't his own loved ones, and the way it's presented makes it seem like a depressing burden on him.

>>83413396
Best scene is when Bruce's parents get rekt. I had never seen that scene! Thank god they included it, so I could understand better Batman's motivation.

>>83412829
It's certainly not a bomb but that's underperfoming because WB were expecting to land the biggest movie of the decade with this. They probably wanted at least $1.5 billion, if not 2.

>Superman can hear Lois in danger in Africa and be there in an instant
>He can't do anything for the human slaves right there in Gotham
>Still bitches about Batman helping them because he wasn't nice toward the criminal

>>83413499
it would have if it wasn't for hack snyder

>>83413437
I don't see what's wrong with home releases coming earlier.

Certainly don't see how it's 'catering to idiots and retards'.

>>83412887
Fox thought Deadpool was going to be a total flop though, they rushed the fuck out of the home video release.

>>83413166

Yea I'm sure the suits at WB aren't asking why Avengers made $1.5 billion from a $220 million investment with strong critic support when theirs made $870 million off of a $250 million investment and was a MASSIVE critical flop and a laughing stock.

I think part of the reason BvS has underperformed isn't just the dissapointing profits, but also there is very little hype and appetite for any forthcoming DC movies. If Batman with Superman and Wonder Woman underperforms what chance as a fucking Cyborg movie got?

>>83412797
Transformers released their blurays like two months or less after it's release date and that one made a lot at the box office. Usually studios release them in the next season which in this case, summer so it's not surprising.

>>83413058
It sort of depends on how you look at it.

They had already payed for Suicide Squad and Wonder-Woman counting on the profits of BvS, so while it may not have lost money by its own, it might have put a lot of money invested elsewhere at risk.

>>83412647
Extra content for a great movie. I like it.

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>>83412831

Something to keep in mind is that WB had a horrible 2015. The had flop after flop with only 2 movies making over $100m domestically. They have nothing in the line up for 2016 outside of Suicide Squad.

BvS was supposed to be their big break, not only for the film itself but for all of WB. You have two of the most well known comic book characters of all time in the same film during the height if the comic book genre and they couldn't even break a billion. Not only that, but the reception was poor and a majority of the film's gross came from the opening weekend as the film took a nose dive in its following weeks that never stabilized.

That is incredibly worrying when you're a film studio trying to build a new film franchise to make up for the loss of two juggernaut franchises (Harry Potter and LOTR).

To an outside observer, BvS looked like it did FINE on its own. But when you look at the wider picture, the film failed to be the success that WB was banking on.

Here's an article that details all of WB's 2015 misfires.

http://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-slugger-warner-bros-strikes-out-at-2015-box-office/

>>83413166
Yeah, but they care about long-term profits.

The film doing like this when it's coming off two very popular IPs and a huge marketing campaign worries them, because this was going to be their flagship franchise for the next 10 years, perhaps further.

They've been looking for a new big franchise ever since the Harry Potter series ended, and keep hoping that DC will be it.

Which it could be, if they stopped mismanaging the properties.

>>83413594
is fox run by literal retards?

>>83413696
>They have nothing in the line up for 2016 outside of Suicide Squad.
Don't they have that Harry Potter spinoff coming out?

>>83413492

My gf (who has very little comics knowledge) said something along the lines of, I can't believe we are seeing Batman's parents get shot AGAIN! lol

>>83413696
why are domestic sales so important?

>>83412647
Remove the Justice League cameos, some of the useless Luthor scenes (like the one inside his bedroom and the snot scene at the end) and maybe, just maybe, we'll have a 6/10 movie

>>83413794
Costs less for distribution. That's it, really.

With China, which is a growing market (though not yet as essential as many people think) there's also the fact that they see very little money at all from the distributors.

>>83413492
>>83413766
And thank god they also showed it a second time in flashback! I had almost forgotten about it halfway through the movie!

I cannot wait for Cereal Lord to assume control
>like a month into shooting JL and we haven't gotten a single set pic
WB are mad af

>>83413849
You actually could have cut out Lex Luthor entirely and Batman and Superman still would have fought. Bruce was mad about Metropolis and Clark was mad about his methods. Build a little bit on that and bam, you've eliminated an hour or more of the movie.

>>83413456
And Lex knows this?

>>83413681
Exactly. How much more exciting will Justice League Part 1 be when we already had Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman teaming up to fight a big monster? Will adding Flash and Cyborg really help that much?

>>83413728
Yes.

>>83413492
>>83413766
That was when I realized the movie was gonna suck. The whole movie was like a storyboard: Snyder had some really great panels that he wanted to show us. Martha's pearls falling in slowmotion, Wayne's fallen logo right next to the angry Bruce watching Superman, the people on the roof seeing Jesus-Supes in the sky, Batman standing over his batmovil facing Superman...

Don't get me wrong, Snyder is a genius of the visuals. Really talented. But he had the visuals, like a storyboard, and the rest of the movie that lead from one panel to another was just pointless stupid shit. That's why the movie had great scenes (really really great scenes) but as a whole was stupid.

Fuck Snyder.

>>83413896
Clark has no right to be mad about his methods anyway. What is he, a cop? No, they're both outside the law.

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>>83413894
> set pic

>>83413941
They're both hypocrites.

>>83413896
That's actually what pissed me off the most about the entire movie. I could've looked past the Doomsday shenanigans if we got a proper ideological battle through and through between Batman and Superman, where both fought hard for what they believed in. Instead Superman goes the entire fight just trying to save his mom. It feels like the entire buildup with those letters Luthor sent to Superman, and the "do you bleed" scene was just completely abandoned.

>>83413896
I was going to say that Lex was important in getting them to fight, but then I realized that both characters were so violent and angry that they probably would have fought without him.

Finally, Jimmy "CIA" Olsen in all his glory.

>>83413766
It's an iconic part of the character. People would probably complain either way. Plus the scene was really good.

>>83413882
Too bad they didn't show Krypton blowing up again.

>>83413962
civil war

>>83412724
>Zootopia
>Release: March 4
>DVD: June 7

You're an idiot.

>>83413993
It was good, but in a too-long-hours movie that had a terrible pace, ten minutes of slowmotion flashback just to show a great visual scene and to state that Bruce's mom was named "Martha" is pointless. Great scene, but pointless.

>>83412647
>Emphases everything the retards who hate the movie complained about but the patricians understood intuitively

I guess when directing blockbusters, you really should direct to the common denominator, though, so that definitely was Snyder's mistake. At least now you fuckers will have no excuse as to why Batman is killing, why Clark is so mopey, etc.

>>83414103
Do not go gentle into that good night, Anon.

>>83412690
He isnt talking about Superman you fucking retard.

>>83412785
It doesnt, but is a trailer for the extended stuff, it doesnt need to be like the original

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>>83413740

No Harry Potter in the title and it's a spin off. They have to market that hard.

>>83413794

It's where they get the most return from film showings. International numbers may be big, but they most likely will only get a small percentage of that gross. Maybe around 20%. It's why domestic is so important.

It's also important that the film not only makes a good chunk in its opening week, but that it also has some legs so that they can at least make some decent amount the longer the film remains in theaters. Not for the obvious reason you would believe though.

Theater chains and film studios take a percentage of the film's gross. In its first week, it's weighed in favor of the studio. As the weeks go by, the studio takes less, and the theaters running the film takes more. When you have a dud with no legs, the theater chains will drop your film like a rock as it's poison to them. They're not making any money on the film on its 3rd week? Why keep it? Especially when the run time is nearly 3 hours. That's less showings for not only the film in question, but also competing films that are actually making money.

>>83412831
They got at least 100 million on Product placement. MoS also did a ton of money on product placement. As for other products the stronger point was the clothes for adults, t-shirts and shit.

>>83412961
Now that's something i really wante to see. Batman rushing into guns is always a good thing

>>83413301
3D money. PG in most vs PG14 or equivalent in most markets.

>>83413687
I remember Jurassic Park 1 taking literally nearly a year to come to video

>>83414316
That was more than 20 years and two whole formats ago

Yup, that looks like Batman v. Superman, all right.

>>83413937
"Superman is a Jesus figure" is half the reason the movie was a shitshow, alongside the fact that they crammed a fucking final boss fight into the mix on top of just absolute shit editing.
Snyder has no concept of undertones. yes superman is a messianic figure, but then all superheroes are messianic figures. yes batman and superman have moms with the same first name, but wouldn't it have been enough for a simple "He has my mom" from superman to get batman in a parent-saving frenzy?
Zack Snyder is really strong when it comes to using archetypal imagery to get a point across, but without someone to reign him in he turns into the art equivalent of a caveman.

>>83414625
Are you telling me that having an angel in a stained glass window in the Wayne mausoleum have blue robes and a red cape might have been a little bit too much symbolism?

I wonder how smart Zack thought he was when he came up with the Martha "plot twist".

>>83412831
The rule of thumb is that marketing is 30-50 percent of the production budget.

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>>83414846
I think Terrio did actually.

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>>83413211
The non Snyder trailers still were from a Snyder movie.

>>83414316
Yeah I remember the santa clause 3 took a year to get released. It seems like popular movies get released in the next season or before while the less popular get released whenever they think is more beneficial.

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>>83413681
Didn't people go ape for this making shitty edits like "if you think sw broke records, wait for march"? Thus the massive butthurt and praying circles.

>>83415037
That image gives BvS so much credit that it deserves none of.

>>83415037
TMNT 2 was fun and colorful. Why is that getting bad ratings?

>>83415075
"Here's a two hour trudging lead up to Batman punching Superman and then Superman punching Shrek" doesn't quite get the intended point across.

>>83415037
Neither hero seemed especially hopeful/inspiring though

>>83413437
If you have a good product you want the home release while there's still marketing momentum.

I'm not sure if this applies to BvS though.

>>83415108
Yeah, they're both just violent sociopaths.

WB held the reviews hostage until the last second and released simultaneously everywhere to ensure as little word of mouth would affect the opening weekend and we're acting surprised they're also pushing the Blu-Ray out as fast as possible?

You can hate Batman v. Superman all you want (and you should) but it was a necessary misstep in the quest for the eventual good DC cinematic universe. Sometimes you need to fail in order to learn.

>>83415099
I'd add
>...Batman punching Superman in a dirty restroom like two meth head truckers...

But apart from that: perfect.

>>83412690
You missed the point. If Doomsday kills Superman, it reaffirms Luthor's world view about there being no god. If Superman had won, it would have proven (to Luthor at least) that he's not as good as he claims to be. Either way, Luthor wins.

>>83415158
Snyder is still directing Justice League.

They learned nothing.

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>>83412647
I'm sure this is going to fix things like casting Jessie Eisenberg, the monotone emotion found in every Snyder movie and piss jar plot points.

>>83415422
Jesse Eisenberg did very well with what he was given. What he was given, however, was terrible.

>>83413414
When?

>>83415422
>the monotone emotion

The movie was extremely emotional.

>>83415422
>"We need to someone for Lex. Get the Breaking Bad guy. Get Heisenberg!"

>>83415142
Superman did literally nothing in that entire movie that was even remotely sociopathic.

Batman is almost always always a borderline sociopath. This movie simply showed him in a state where he's crossed that line.

>>83415443
Don't know if it was depicted in the movie as I personally haven't seen it, but snyder said in an interview that he had to train himself to ignores peoples cries all over the world or it would drive him insane. It was an interview when he was trying to explain why superman didn't just listen for his mom.

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>>83415463
Yeah.

Look at all that vague emotion.

Why did they nuke superman again when they could clearly see that he was taking the hulk into space?

>>83415418
Well, apparently they nixed Snyder's plan to have every member of the Justice League have a nightmare sequence, so they learned SOMETHING.

>>83415158
Yeah, wouldn't go as far to say the whole circus is closed, but I do think JL will be hurt after all this fiasco. I have more hopes for ss.

>>83414625
Another anon not paying attention. Superman tried to talk to him, Batman didn't care. The only reason "save Martha" worked is the name similarity made Batman finally listen.

>>83415490
Batman doesn't have any single trait typical of a sociopath

>>83415532
WE CAN'T TAKE ANY CHANCES
Snyder wouldn't get to do a "Superman gets nuked in orbit and becomes a skeleton" thing from Dark Knight Returns otherwise.

>>83415490
>Superman did literally nothing in that entire movie that was even remotely sociopathic.
>smashing the dude who kidnapped Lois Lane through two brick walls, certainly killing him
>threatening Bruce and Lex with violence
>completely unapologetic about the destruction of Metropolis

>>83415493
Yeah it wasn't in the movie.

>>83415616
>This shot >>83415508

>>83415587
>stalking tendencies
>brooding anger
>manipulative
>Machiavellian (except for killing)

I don't know what you think Sociopaths are, but Batman caring for people is basically the one trait he has that ISN'T sociopathic.

>>83415616
Having emotions is sociopathic? And why would he apologize for Metropolis, when he wasn't the one destroying anything? Or, are you so dense that you thought that was Superman's giant space ship fucking with the gravity?

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>>83415538
Jesus christ what

>>83415616
>Being angry at people who are threatening to kill your wife
>Threatening bad guys with violence
How are either of those traits of a sociopath? Do you honestly not know what that word means?

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>>83415493

Out of all the people to ignore, his mother should be the last one

So has anyone in this thread already pointed out that the guy Clark is talking to is Lone eye Lincoln from Morrison's Batman run?

>>83415718
Yeah, well....it's snyder. What are you gonna do.

>>83415727
>Morrison finally gets one of his creations adapted into the big screen
>It's Lone-eye Lincoln
>It's in Batman v Superman
Yeah, I'll stick it to Negasonic Teenage Warhead, as much as not her as she was.

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>>83412797
Hey Pops, blu rays come out much earlier these days. Digital release even sooner.

>mfw Force awakens blu ray release 4 months after theaters

>>83415670
Ah so you just use words you don't understand, my bad, I shouldn't have taken you seriously at all

>>83415798
Nice rebuttal.

>>83415798
But he was right, you're the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. You're so eager to shit on this movie you're just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

>>83415493
It was literally depicted in Man of Steel that he learned to tune out every voice BUT his moms.

>>83415096
Critics hate turtles

>>83415422
I didn't much like the film but I actually enjoyed Lex as Eisenberg.

Especially in the roof scene; he wasn't muh Lex, but I found his performance enjoyable and the direction interesting.

>>83415142
And so is the third who's literally getting aroused when fighting. I'm thinking this will lead to some iteration of the Justice Lords instead of the league proper.

>>83416007
Well I guess Snyder forgot about that.

>>83415838
You don't deserve anything better.

>>83415841
Uh uh, sure he was

>>83416007
Or could have used his X-ray vision to scan the area.

>>83415794
>4 months after theaters

That's still like a 2 month gap in between a movie pretty much disappearing from cinemas entirely and being released on home video though, it's not enough.

>>83416712
My local theater just stopped playing Zootopia last week and it's coming out next week on blu-ray.

>>83416241
The point of the scene was to show Superman learning those habits.

>>83415360
>Either way, Luthor wins.
It would literally be only head canon, since everyone else would see him as hero.
Wait a minute. Why would it matter if he killed Doomsday or not, when he already killed Zodd the first time? He wouldn't even need this confirmation?

Snyder defence force is at full power today I see

>>83415508
>take one from from a scene and claim there's no emotion

Nice meme!

>>83412647
It really needs more nightmare sequences.

We should get a Dawn of Injustice movie.