Superman Rebirth Storytime

Let's do this!@!!!!!!!

>>83370141

last week?

>>83370156
I love these variants with new logo.

>>83370189
Herewego.jpeg

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>>83370206
No, the other time

>>83370282
Sweet spread

>>83370282
oh man those red briefs, why did they ever take you away.

>>83370141
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCKING SHIT I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damnit this issue is actually pretty good and actually got me interested. Shame I dropped this for Batman instead fucking damnit.

>>83370282
That costume is literally fucking PERFECT. Why did they ever think it needed changing in the slightest?

Not bad. Interested in seeing where this goes.

>>83370447
holy fucking shit they're not even hiding the fact that it's Reign of the Supermen all over again.

why is the inker so mediocre
mahnke's art used to look better

>>83370447
>Reign of the supers
So when's he coming back?
Action 1000 to far away?

>Nu-52 Superman is truly dead
>or is he?
I'm not that sure anymore.

>>83370407
Welp.

Nu52 Supes really is dead. Wow. I honestly figured they'd either revive him or set up the plot to have him revived in this issue.

>>83370444
Yeah, not to bring shit from the other thread here but I like this better than Batman too. All content aside, I feel this do a better job of establishing the new status quo and the whole respecting the legacy thing that Rebirth is supposed to be about. Hopefully it won't nosedive from here.

>>83370473
eh, at least it's not the guy from Justice League, his art looked terrible there.

>>83370447
Lana didnt get any powers?

This was actually good, but I don't feel very satisfied after finishing it.

Oh well, just have to wait 2 weeks.

Why does DC think another convolouted reboot instead of a clean start is a good idea to bring back old readers as well as get new ones? Shouldn't they distill theee characters down instead of doubling down on the spaghetti on the wall?

>>83370468
Holy fuck. In all my apathy, I never realized what a pathetic retread this shit is.

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that was pretty good

>>83370492
I mean, he's coming back, but it's not going to happen anytime soon. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if this is LONG longterm -- like, Johns himself plans on bringing him back.

>>83370468
I mean this whole issue was Supes going "lol he'll be back, didn't you read Death and Return of Superman?"

>>83370536
Action 1000.

I'd put money on it.

So basically the new suit looks like the MoS suit because It's going to be created by this Universe's Fortress of Soltitude and Clark just ditched the colar?

>>83370510
She knows stuff, like where Fortress is. Maybe powers still didn't activate?

>>83370352
I hope this is explained?
>I just know because he's dead

>>83370141
>Tomasi
It's shit, there I saved y'all some time.

>>83370418
Wow

I love Batman and hate superman
But this was 100 times better than kings rebirth

That has to mean a lot

>>83370468
Well, I appreciate them being upfront and not bothering to hide it, at least. Also, I really like the whole 'status quo shift' and 'why they wear the shield' part - it's actually a good way for new readers to get into the books much easier, they should do more of this if they really want new readers.

>>83370523
because Rebirth sold out and it's not a fucking reboot. Someone stole 10 years from the Universe shit changed, holy fucking shit how dense can you be to not get that?

>>83370580
It's probably her powers she got from the blast from Clark

>>83370580
It will but later, it's probably the same reason Lois is superman now.

>>83370599
>xenos
you should know already the answer to how dense he is

>>83370523
>I never realized what a pathetic retread this shit is.

You must be as dumb as they come. People were saying how this was Reign of the Supermen when they saw all those Super-Family books.

>>83370589
You mean Snyder's rebirth. King only wrote what Snyder ordered him to.

>>83370447
Not even being subtle

>>83370510
She probably did, the solicited Superwoman cover has someone with a red and white suit on

>>83370636
So is this what King fans still hold on hope to then? It's okay to say he wrote shit, it doesn't he's always been shit or will always be shit. Strange how this almost always comes up for writers just when they got the A-list books though.

>those nu52 Supermanfags on suicide watch

>>83370523
Mouseketeer please. Not everyone's as dense as you.

>>83370282
>>83370300
>>83370322
This was a pretty nice call back, even for Tomasi. Can't believe i actually digged this Rebirth book.

>>83370431

I like that one much better than the Numale at the bus stop

>>83370828
Still has the logo wrong.

I can't believe that didn't at least shop it correctly.

>>83370407
cute
poor Lana though

Well I liked it . Good times ahead

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pretty good

>>83370431

>Heroes
>Unheroic picture of Supes
>tfw DC will never ban giving him glowing red eyes

>>83370397
He literally had this in Last Son Tomasi, have you ever read a Superman comic before?

>>83370407
Why is Superman drawn like a woman with a beard?

>>83370447

Everytime they focus on Luthor they do great comics, I can't wait!

>>83370447
And let's not forget, in the coming months we'll be getting Eradicator in Superman, Cyborg Superman (Zor-El) in Supergirl, and Superboy (Jon) in mulltiple titles. I wonder which book Steel is showing up in.

>>83371076
Maybe they'll reveal he's not really pre-Flashpoint Superman but rather pre-Infinite Crisis Superman?

>>83370582

Funny, I read Tomasi and I was ''YES, it will be good!'' and it was.

I'm just happy now that these books are doubleshipping there'll be no need for Crossover Bullshit

>>83371124
His face is half of Superwoman's cover

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>>83371124
>Steel

He's on the cover of Superwoman, so I think that's where he'll be.

>>83371168
Oh poor naïve anon

>>83371184
So how will this work with Lois. Is Lois White going to cover for her in the daily planet?

>>83371168
lmao

>>83371168
d-did you not see the last page? (>>83370418) I'm just imagining that AC and Superman will lead into each other every week.

And then there's >>83370447 along with them literally saying "reign of the supers". Like. Come on. Of course there will be crossovers.

>>83371168
The Super line really got the raw end of the deal on that during New 52. It only happened to the Batman line a couple times and they were still mostly readable. But the Superman crossovers were just shit.

>>83371168
>Berganza
It won't be crossover, it'll be full blown triangle era

>>83370523
>being this retarded
I think Gwenpool may be more up your alley.

>>83371168
King said Batman has a crossover or two planned and that they're probably gonna take advantage of the double shipping to do it.
Like having one issue be the tie in and next issue be a normal one.
It'll probably be the same everywhere else.

>>83371076
who could possibly keep up with all that shit

>>83370589
GL>Supes>Bats so far for me. Though I get the feeling GA will be the best.

>>83370744
The last arc and pre-52 Clark being so adamant that he was going to come back actually made me feel something for him for the first time.

>>83371524
Oh shit, I forgot that's coming up this week too. Yeah, hopefully that one's good, the preview looks promising.

>>83371488
>King said Batman has a crossover or two planned
Stop the presses, Batcrossover.
>>83371524
>Though I get the feeling GA will have the most of shiposting
ftfy

>>83371262
>It only happened to the Batman line a couple times

Night o the owls
Death of the family
Zero Year
Requiem
End game

And there may be something else I'm missing. Superman may have had more though

>>83371143
This was dumb

>>83370633
>>83371432
>Responding to the faggot that has said that he is not a faggot even when he has a trans girlfriend

>>83371610

Nah it was alright

>>83370447
so SuperLois is New 52 Lois right?

>>83370407
>>83370418
Oh man I got emotional there.

>>83371566
Ah, I see, if you count the tie-ins Batman probably had more. But outside of Robin War I can't think of any that had an entire crossover arc where you had to jump around from book to book the way you had to for H'el on Earth or Last Days which is what pissed me off about the way the Superman line handled theirs.

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I've read four Rebirth specials now and this was the first one I like. It's the only one that actually talked about optimism and legacy as central themes. Art wasn't the greatest, but I can forgive that.

>>83371184
Wait is that Lana on the cover too?

Solo Lana is Superwoman red and Lois Superwoman blue?

>>83370264
he is so hot.

>>83371707
It's my least favorite because that's all it does. Also because I'm just not a fan of this two Supermans thing, this Superman just feels so out of place and you get this comic-booky-in-a-bad-way exposition about how things were different but not really on his Earth and etc.

>>83371768
Daddy Superman's a lot handsomer than prettyboy Superman.

That book is so good.

>>83371776
My god, you know what this means?

We like different kinds of comic books. I think we have to fight to the death now. Or, uh... accept that we have differing opinions.

>>83371814
this:) he is s a lot handsomer than Bruce .

>>83370418

Wait, I haven't read a superman comic in like 10 years.
New 52 superman is dead and replaced by the old superman ? What? How?

>>83370500
Yeah, I thought there'd be an explanation than "oh he's dead", like the matrix not doing anything or something more unnatural and grotesque.

>>83371859
maybe the matrix was removed by the good Doctor

But seriously, I have my doubts about New52 Superman being permanently dead. The Regeneration Matrix is just one method to bring him back to life.


Also Dr Manhattan stole the red briefs, I TELL YOU.

Kings Batman is as pretty meh.who could possibly keep up with all that shit Superdad Rebirth it's much better...

>>83371858
>New 52 superman is dead and replaced by the old superman ? What? How?
See The Final Days of Superman (originally Super Leagues) arc from the same writer

Why and how is original Superman in the nu52? Why would Manhattan allow that? Why couldn't Wally find him when he was pinballing around the place?

So Lana, Lois, and MAYBE three other people have fragments of New 52 Superman's soul, or mind or essence inside them.

...if only there was blank slate Superman body running around to stuff them back into.

>>83372053
>Why and how is original Superman in the nu52?
convergence. he went out of time and came back to his earth after the timeline was changed

>Why would Manhattan allow that?'
Because Clark doesn't know that this is his Earth but minus 10 years and Manhattan is only Rorschaching people who know who he is

>Why couldn't Wally find him when he was pinballing around the place?
He only appeared to Bruce and Linda before he started pinballing everywhere

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>>83372074
Don't tell me that Superdad absorbs all of this and becomes Super Kryptonian God.

>>83372074
2 other people. when he died he shot off 4 beams, 2 of which hit lois and lana

>>83372116
Oh, this is the Superman from convergence? Alright fair enough

think I really liked this issue for what it was. I liked Tomasi's voice for Clark.

The ending was really great

>>83372137
yeah. he and lois have been on this timeline for 10 years raising their son with clark doing secret missions to stop old villains of his from ever coming to this world and lois trying to expose intergang before it becomes a thing

>>83372129

Look up DC 1,000,000 Superman Prime, it'll blow your mind.

>>83372129
Well, he isn't at full power right now...

Just read it agree with the score, it was really great.

>>83372185
That's pretty cool

>>83372136

I guess I was remembering the number wrong, just ignore the number in the post and replace it with whatever the right one is.
Because my main point is there may or may not be some number of people with bits of Superman "stuff" all up in them.

It feels surreal. I've read Reign of Supermen as a kid, I didn't think that it would be relevant 20 years later

>>83370282
>storyteller
What kind of shit credit is that? And complete insult to Mahnke.

Freaking loved the issue. And boy, did Mahnke kill it on those flashback scenes. His mullet Superman was awesome.

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I picked this up hoping it'll be a clean slate to start reading the new Superman series but I'm left confused like if I had picked up a series in the middle of an arc
Shame.mp3 on you DC

It wasn't bad, but man talk about nothing really happening.

What is it with Tomasi that his writing always seems like autopilot, keep the book in a holding pattern until someone else decides to actually do something with it?

>>83370352
It's in the exact same place as your fortress was you buffoon.

SuperDad Superman line will be more stable than it ever was during the New 52.

>>83370407
And suddenly he gives up. What crockshit

Superman deals with the actual idea of a rebirth via Clark and Lana over Nuperman, but end in the rebirth of pre-52 Clark

I'll have to read the other books but so far I LOVE this sort of creative synergy. Common themes, but filtered through distinctly unique worlds. Nice one!

>>83372390
Eh, they explained stuff at least.

Another meh issue. Hopefully Green Arrow and Green Lanterns fare better

>>83370582
>Not liking Tomasi's Nightwing and Batman & Robin

>>83370523

Xenos shut the fuck up.

>>83372129
>"Man I don't have it in me to beat Parralax. I have to go beyond. I have to become a Super Kryptonian God."

>"Damn, baby Darkseid has hit puberty and become Omega Darkseid. It looks I have to push myself beyond the limits of a Super Kryptonian God. This is Super Kryptonian God Super Kryptonian."

>>83372306
Yeah, Lois, Lana and made in China Super-man has fragments of his power, maybe the new Clark Kent is someone with his body/form?

>>83372555
Green Lanterns was pretty decent. Simon is now my husbando.

>>83372555
Batman sucks sorry.

love it.

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>>83370418
>That bog boss smile

Superdaddy is cute love him .He has needs to adopt Dami.

>>83371545
You've got some shit taste

>>83371834
Try not posting like an idiot.

>>83371126
If he was pre-Infinite Crisis Superman he would've remembered that Doomsday killed him before he married Lois.

>>83372635
>now
Go read his origin story by Johns and Mahnke

>>83372750
Same goes for you.

Honestly I think Tomasi's an underrated writer. This issue was fantastic.

>>83372794
This.Yeah

>>83372391
I think Batman & Robin diverged from that. It was a fun book with something always happening.

>>83372390
Rebirth isn't a reboot hunni

Good shit.

Uh...Why does Mahnke's art look like some house style dogshit? Why doesn't this look like an even better Superman Beyond 3D?

>>83370366
Fortress looks like C'Thun

>>83370447
Tell me about Supes! Why does he wear the shield?!

>>83373115
Nobody cared about him until he started wearing it.

>>83370397
Oh god... Tomasi do your homework

>>83373129
He's a former editor for those who didn't know yet

>>83372390
I mean. It's pretty much a clean slate. The issue was just to establish status quo, which is pretty nice for new readers.

>>83373137
if I'm not mistaken, /co has no high opinion of him. This issue was not bad, but it is just a celebration for the poor nu52 Supes.

>>83373179
It's split, some people on /co/ fall for his over the top melodramatic bullshit, others see through the poor writing and know he's a hack.

Where's the Green Arrow storytime?

>>83372599

Heh. You made my morning man.

>>83370447
Supergirl is just the premise of her tv show?

Well, alright. I trust Orlando, even if there's no way this was his idea.

Eh, not bad but nothing special either.

Thanks OP.

>>83370156
Really hope this Andy Park guy gets a lot more cover work.
We need more digital artist and his rendering here is great.

>>83370744
The respect of this Superman for him made me accept his death.

>>83373223
I enjoyed his run on GLC, but I haven't read anything by him in years. I take it he's had a few duds since then?

>>83373262
I second this.

>>83370264
It sucks that they'll have him shave his beard off.

>>83372357
It means they collaborated on writing and art. Gleason writes as well as draws, Mahnke just draws

>>83374543
It does not mean they collaborate on writing and art. And Gleason drew nothing.

It was a good issue, though I liked Batman Rebirth more.

>>83370523
calling you retarded is an insult to actual retards

>>83370335
Shit. I forgot all of Coast City got destroyed in this arc. Lol, remember when DC wasn't so edgy?

>>83370407
Fuck...

...just... god damn.

>>83371997
>Dr Manhattan stole the red briefs, I TELL YOU.
I guess he got tired of his blue junk flapping in the wind.

>>83370249
This clashes pretty hard with the idea that blackest night still managed to occur in new 52 according to the GL new 52 canon which was left mostly untouched apart from Kyle.

>>83370237

>Superman not trusting Lana

...um...this is a good issue and everything, but Clark not trusting his childhood friend that kept the biggest secret on Earth with no difficulty is a weird writing decision.

>>83370322
>>83370300
>>83370282

Sweet Jesus the artists made sweet, sweet love to Death of Superman. These pages are fucking gorgeous.

yeah okay. the whole second superman with a son is interesting. I dig it. Lana's hot. I'll give this a shot.

>>83370407
Damn he gave up so quickly

Eh I still doubt he'll stay dead, they're just removing the regeneration matrix from the equation to make his revival actually shocking instead of a "it's about time" thing.

>>83370572
Lana got the knowlage, Lois got the powers?

>>83372464
>>83376422
That's because he's a sack of shit.

>>83370484
>Action 1000 to far away?

21 months with double shipping

>>83376563
They can both have my dick

>>83376354
He doesn't know this Lana

>>83374616
>It does not mean they collaborate on writing and art
That's exactly what a storyteller credit means

>>83370141
>mfw I realized this is Death of Superman aftermath all over again

We got four Superman again:

>Lex, Man of Steel
>Clark Kent the original Superman
>Lois Lane, Superwoman,
>The Super-Man

How do they correspond, anons? My closest guess is:

>Chinese Supes is Superboy because young
>Lex is Cyborg because come on
>Lois is Steel because carrying his legacy without pretending to actually be him
>Clark is Eradicator because Kryptonian and plays a role in bringing him back

I hope Post-Flashpoint Superman does come back though. The Twoperman dynamic couldve been a good one

>>83377098
I think Superwoman and Superdad are not going away. New Super-Man will probably get jobbed out by Lex who wants to be the only superman.

>>83377148
Like Parker/Reily or Thor/Thunderstrike.

>>83377098

Ehhh...I'm thinking that Lex is more on the line of Steel. He hasn't seemed to have any ulterior motive thus far, and even when he had Darkseid's power flowing through his veins, he STILL prioritized saving Earth over anything else. Of course, I don't think he's completely turned himself around because, come on, but I don't think he's a secret villain here.

>>83376934
Show me where Gleason and Tomasi contributed to the art. I'm clearly a blind idiot.

>>83377187
Truly, we are living the the 90s 2.0.

>>83370282
Bravo, Mahnke

It'll be funny if one of those energy bolts hit Lex and suddenly he has a fucking conscience in his head, telling him to be good.

I don't like how quickly OldSupes gives up on bringing back NuSupes. Why did Lana "JUST KNOW" that he was dead-dead?
I like the statue bits though.

>>83373129
>>83373137
>>83371076
He had the regeneration thing in Last Son?

I decided to check out the storytime because anons kept crowing about how great this issue was, but outside of the Doomsday recap it wasn't very good at all. Just a lot of going nowhere. And why does Lang know the location of the Fortress of Solitude? "I just know" isn't an answer. What, were they psychically linked or something? She also seemed to take this dude giving her hope that Clark could come back, and then having it not pan out, REALLY well for someone who should be wracked with grief.

Bleh.

>>83370156
Fuck me, that looks fantastic.

>>83377872
>Why did Lana "JUST KNOW" that he was dead-dead?
Because she and Lois were both hit with his dying bolts. It looks like she got his knowledge while Lois got his power.

tl;dr:

New 52 Superman was a waste of time, let's move on and enjoy the real one.

>>83370141
http://youtu.be/SgAXCT99m0M

Which one time?

>>83370636
>You mean Snyder's rebirth. King only wrote what Snyder ordered him to.

That is unlikely since Doyle is the person that is ultimately in charge of the Batbooks and not Snyder. If Bateditorial was still pro-Snyder like it was during the Marts era, stuff like Grayson and HipsterGirl would never have gotten off the ground.

Whatever working arrangement is probably similar to what Seely/King had on Grayson.

>>83378109

I just realized Harlan looks just like old Mark Hamill. I wonder if he based his Riddler performance on all that pure distilled bitterness.

>>83372794
I think it's rather that Tomasi is a type of writer that can be very strong in certain cases or Michael Bay levels stupid in other cases. Writing heroes like Batman/Superman as parents was one of his strengths given his perspective. Shit like Superman/Wonder Woman was heads on pants retarded.

I havent read any New 52 Superman, can I just jump in and read this issue?

>>83370397
well your Kents weren't dead, Clark

>>83378320
Just know that the current Superman is pre new 52 superman who made it to the new 52 universe with pre new 52 Lois and their son. He stayed hidden and did deeds off panel but now is stepping into a more public role after the death of new 52 superman.

>>83370418
Great issue. Superman looked like one of those cali guys in their forties who got too much plastic surgery. Not always but at certain angles.

>>83373393
Her costume looks similar to the TV show too.

>>83378417
Actually Pa Kent died post-Infinite Crisis.

>It turns out all they have to do revive Superman is to mix him with water and stir.

>>83378770
>Clark's ashes aren't even in the jar

WHAT A TWEEST

>>83378834
Who has his cape?

>>83378770
>Sorry to keep you waiting Kal, my son accidentally knocke over your urn while we were setting you up and we had to find something to compensate.
>Long story short... You're mostly jello now.

I enjoyed this, I might start picking up Super books again.

Maybe it's just because GL has been so shitty for years and I'm finally free of my battered-wife syndrome that I'll no longer read GL, so literally anything looks better these days. Although, Batman Rebirth was pretty meh.

>>83378855
Krypto

>>83370322
>black hair on Death of Superman Lois
It was Byrne-brown, it's even on the cover, come on.

>>83370282

my current wallpaper, looks so good

>>83370141
Thank you anon

>Superman died with lightning
>His friends got his powers and memories
>A Legionnaire is in the present
Hmm...

Superman - Rebirth 001 (2016) (Webrip) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP)
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/g15l3rAv/file.html

So why isnt there a Batman story time?

>>83380502
It 404d.

Here: >>83367739

>>83380502
Already archived.

>>83370141
>Remember when Superman died that one time
>One time
>One
>Died

>>83380543
thanks

>>83370141
Thank you anon!

>>83370282
MY Superman

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>>83370418

Thanks anon

I enjoyed the issue. It set the future up very nicely.

My bet is that Superdad is the real Superman, with the Nuperman being a simulacrum created by the Dr. Manhattan who was trying to "right the universe" after someone else manipulated it in the wake of Flashpoint.

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>>83379196
One small detail that I really loved is pre-Flashpoint Lois's hair has been brown in all the books she's appeared in thus far. I'm really hoping they keep that going in the new books.

>>83370431
>Kids
>Reading comics
HUE

This inker and colorist should be executed for what they did to Mahnke's work

>>83371687
Yes.

>>83370282
Why have we never had a Doomsday that look that badass in other media?
Even in Injustice he looks like balding rocker dad

>>83382504
The rest of the pages look pretty ho-hum but this spread looks amazing.
>>83370282

>>83370282
Best DC page in a long time. Kinetic, intense. That right there is Superman.

>>83382333
Love her.

>>83377252
Just because they didn't draw anything doesn't mean they were hands off on the art.

They wrote the script and broke down the panels.

Pak and Kuder did the same thing during their run on Action Comics. I remember #44 had the same type of credits w/ Porter on art.

It's not a slight against Mahnke, he's just not as involved with the plotting and story direction.

>>83382774
>Nothing says Superman like punching something really hard
Fucking casuals, I hate Superfags.

>>83372880
shit inker, boring colorist

>>83383020
He's about to punch something real hard. It's the moment before the explosive action.

It's the vinegar strokes.

>>83383020
D'aww anon, you sound triggered.

But which am I, a casual or a Superfag?

It's a beautiful representation of an iconic moment. Yes, Superman is more than brawn/punching things, but this represented his greatest sacrifice, as clearly explained in the text, he gave his life to save the world. Not sure what your problem is.

Wonder how much shitposting will occur and how many sides will be launched into orbit when N52 Superman comes back and he's the one wearing the red trunks, or something like it.

>>83383314
I need this now

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Ah, hell yeah. The Death of Superman.

The very comic that kicked off the Comics Collector's crash and collateral assraep of DC and Marvel back in 1996.

/a/ says hi, and thanks you for bringing up this topic just for how this event brought in Anime to the American continent masses all because of the shitstorm this caused.

in b4 US comics movie crash

Hope they can get a Lobo movie in before everything goes south further

I think people who say Superman gave up on bringing back 52Supes too easily aren't thinking hard enough about it. Superman died once and already knows the specifics of what it took to bring him back and he can see that the things needed simply aren't present. I also would say that he hasn't exactly given up, but has shelved the idea for now in favour of being the 52verse's Superman. It's obvious when they do bring 52Supes back, Post Crisis Supes will have a major role in it.

>>83371726
We can only hope.

>>83370352
>what if i told you
>What if I told you

This dialogue is bad

We 90s now

>>83370174
So who was that burning madman anyway?

>>83385444
He was a regular guy that got infused with N52's genome, he went nuts and thought he was N52 Supes, everyone chased him throughout the last days/super-leauge story and N52 Supes burned himself up defeating him

Wasn't a big fan of this issue. Instead of focusing on the "rebirth" of Superman, the whole issue is spent saying goodbye to the old one. Like we did get enough of that in the previous 8 issues. They could have at least given us the new costume, every other book did.

>>83372074
Well...technically there is going to be the mysterious new Clark Kent wandering around. The solicits made it seem he wasn't gonna be PF Superman either.

>>83385517
thank you

>>83383665
Dude are you like fucking retarded

I dunno. This felt really stiff in terms of dialog. Clark sounded way to formal, like he was an alien that just landed on earth as apposed to an alien that had spent his entire life on Earth. Also it was basically "HE KIDS REMEMBER THE TIME SUPERMAN DIED?" the issue

>>83386946
On one level, he still doesn't believe this is his Earth, so he probably does feel like an alien. On another, not only was the DoS refresher a parallel to N52 Superman's death, but it also foreshadows the first arc of Action where he'll be fighting Doomsday again.

can you post all the in-house ads too

How did Superman come to the conclusion that the New 52 Superman couldn't come back to life?

>>83387184
Because what he used to come back didn't seem to exist in that world.

Although now this makes me wonder why he didn't try to use it for Kal-L.

>>83387670
>Because what he used to come back didn't seem to exist in that world.

Not to mention that when pre-52 Superman died, his body was still intact. New 52 Superman was insta-cremated.

>>83387670
It didn't exist in the Fortress of Solitude, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist in the world.

I'm not arguing for the return of New 52 Supes, it just seems to weird to have Superman just randomly give up because two robots couldn't find a creation matrix within the Fortress.

>>83386881

I taste sweet tears of denial

Have they explained why Older Superman's powers are wonky yet? Also I am both happy and sad that this seems to be permanent. I just hope they don't ruin this superman by changing his core character too much from pre nu52. Either way happy to see some continuity from Superman of the 90s great call back and art there.

>>83387798
Wspecially when he himself should know that there's plenty of ways to bring back a hero that don't involved the shit he used.

I didn't read it as him thinking new 52 Supes couldn't come back though. Just him realizing that waiting wasn't doing anyone any good.

>>83370468
It's hilarious how nobody found it obvious and went with retarded theories like "Pre flashpoint Superman will replace nu Superman and nu Superman is actually Kon-el/Mon-el".

So basically this issue was a meta message to fans that "Yes, one of Superman's most memorable stories was that he died and came back to life. That's not what's happening here. New 52 Superman is dead for good and pre-Flashpoint Superman is in."

It's the right call in my opinion. /co/ loves to suck New 52 Superman's dick, but he's pretty much hated everywhere else. If the plan is to bring back the history and legacy of the DC Universe, this is the best way to do it since Superman's entire pre-Flashpoint history was erased in the New 52 reboot. As a huge fan of pre-Flashpoint Superman, I'm hype as hell for what comes next.

>>83388033
I love the Mon-El theory just because it's insane but I think he's reincarnated Kal-L and they'll both coexist in the long run somehow.

So if nu52 supes is really dead then who is that Clark Kent that will be showing up in Action Comics? Just Superdad posing as nuClark? Because that would just raise further questions

>>83388192
Maybe just the original Clark, with the Clark/Lois Lane dynamic reversed?

>>83370447
>hero’s love interest dons his mantle and the power is killing her
hmmmm

>>83388331
Whor done right

>>83388601
And it's also Spider-Women done right too for that matter

>>83370335
When is the mullet comic back?. I miss it

>>83372357
Gleason tends to contribute stuff to Tomasi's work.
Read the scripts from B/R; the Damien Requiem is heavy, but Gleason adds things that make it brutal.

>>83371726
That's supposed to be the mysterious Ultra-Woman.

See >>83370447

>>83389415
Ultra-Woman is most likely the shadowy figure while Lana is the red and white one

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>>83370335
>>83389296
>When is the mullet comic back?. I miss it

agreed

I've never read a single Superman comic ever, but I think I might start now. It's true I didn't get into comics until the new 52, but I know enough about Superman's legacy from the animated series, you anons, etc. to appreciate this issue.

>>83378163
for some strange reasons I want to read Super sons that one looks fun

>>83390230
Read All-Star, my man. And prepare to feel and be inspired.

>>83390247
>some strange reasons
You mean other than it looking more fun than getting a blowjob while playing your favorite vidya with your friends, as you serve yourself beer out of an eternally full ice chest of brewskis located just within arm's reach of your inexplicably uncreepy, fully functional third arm?

>>83370352
>No, I can't
>Then I guess it's a good thing one of us does
Am I stupid or does this not make sense? It sounds like she's saying "One of us does can find it".

>>83390544

Eh, she's referring to the larger conversation, not the most recent aside. One of us "does" know where it is.

Weak first issue, but I didn't really expect much going into it. Looking forward to Super-man and Sex Luthor: Man of Tomorrow all the same.

Once they establish the universe and Superdad's place in it, it should pick up.

So this is out monthly right? could i ask which day will it be out monthly will it always be the first day of the month or will it change around im from britain so its kinda hard to follow when shits out.

>>83388045
>/co/ loves to suck New 52 Superman's dick
nigga wat

I've seen about as much love for New52 Superman here as elsewhere. There's more when there is a story where he is well written (i.e. closer to Pre52 Clark), and hate when he comes off as angsty.

>>83371076
Are you referring to the Ma and Pa statue or the crystal shit?

>>83391980
yeah the next issue (the actual #1) is in two weeks

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>>83370431
I fucking love this. I want more of these kinds of promos and I want prints of them.

Wait is Lana Kara? Did I misread something?

>>83393996
It's just a prerecorded message made in the assumption that Kara was the last Kryptonian and would be the only one who could access the fortress.

>>83393996
Wait I thought it was Lana who touched the crystal. Never mind

>>83370300
holy shit, she wasn't his wife

>>83370141
Fuck it's actually fucking here.

>>83394130
They were engaged and he's also explaining to Lana, who doesn't know, that he comes from a reality where he's married to Lois.

This just felt like a whole lot of nothing. A true zero issue. Green Arrow was way better.

>>83370141
This was pretty boring and even if I wasn't a huge fan of him, man, Nuperman got a raw deal.

>>83394426
>he comes from a reality where he's married to Lois
Okay, I'm very confused. Is New 52 the same world as preboot DC minus ten years or a totally different world minus ten years?

>>83394563
It's preboot DC with its history changed and minus ten years.

>>83394520
As a fan of his, let me tell you, yes. He absolutely fucking did get a raw deal.

>>83370141
THE MAN IS BACK!

>>83394837
And none of the characters know that? Because the characters seem to be treating them like two totally different worlds.

>>83370156
I still don't get the cuffs. Everything else I can live with, but the cuffs make NO sense.

>>83394856
I read Morrison's Action Comics and I enjoyed him being a total bro with Dick in Grayson, so when I read this it hit me that man, that guy is dead. Fuck.

That was horrible.

>>83370189
Nice art. Why are there different artists from page to page?

>>83394885
Wally's the only one who knows because he just got out of the speed force.

>>83370282
This is a really nice looking page.

>>83370352
Jurgens is kind of a bad writer. The issue is pretty cool overall, but the dialogue is the worst part.

>>83370407
Why does he just go "OH WELL GUESS THAT SUCKS"?

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>>83395327
>tfw batgirl is also

This issue made me kind of want to go back and read a bunch of pre-Flashpoint Supes stuff I've missed. I'm not really that familiar with him and really only started reading Superman stories around New 52.

Also any chance of Action Comics being good? People like to shit on Jurgens, but Action is apparently going to focus on Lex as Superman, so I'm mildly interested.

>>83370418
That was OK. Looking forward to the upcoming stuff.

>>83370447
How are there going to be two Lois Lanes?

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>>83370335

>Forgetting about how Pa Kent had to retrieve Clark's soul from the afterlife

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>>83395785
>This issue made me kind of want to go back and read a bunch of pre-Flashpoint Supes stuff I've missed. I'm not really that familiar with him and really only started reading Superman stories around New 52.

Here's a pretty good list of stuff to get you started. For my money, Byrne's Man of Steel is still the quintessential Superman origin. Also check out the semi-recent Adventures of Superman digital series.

>Also any chance of Action Comics being good?

I thought his Convergence miniseries and Lois & Clark were great, myself. Dude knows how to write Superman.

>>83395962
So Clark DID die and not fall into a super coma?

Also, good lord! Maybe it's a good thing that Pa Kent died. There'd be no villain that could stop him so long as he had a shovel handy.

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>>83370407
>>83370418

>tfw the real Superman is back

>>83395962
That whole issue was trippy.
And also more metaphorical, I believe. It was more about Jonathan not being able to cope rather than actually saving Clark's soul.

>>83390230
These:>>83396055 plus the following are the best starting points:

Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes
Escape From Bizarro World
Last Son
Superman & Batman - World's Funnest
Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?
For the Man Who Has Everything
DC Comics Presents #85
Hitman #34
JLA - Hitman

>>83395411
Er, shit. Not Jurgens. You know what I mean.

>>83396068

Kinda, its subjective. Pa Kent essentially was in the bridge between life & death after having a heart attack after Supes' death. He found Clark's soul and helped him break out of the afterlife...then Clark came back to life like 2 months later.

You could argue it was a near-death hallucination, but heaven is canon in DC

>>83395327
What is this cuckfaggotry from?

>>83396094
Post crisis casual

>>83395785
See: >>83396055 plus: >>83396180 plus maybe the Byrne run.

>>83396283
Need to jerk off?

>>83370407
Hey let's not invite the woman he loves or any of his friends...

>>83396330
need to know what to avoid

>>83396359
Oh a trigger warning, I see.

>>83395959
One's dying.

Oldsupes doesn't seem particularly interesting or likeable to me. I mean, I suppose he'll lighten up once it's not all about death anymore, but I'll miss cocky Superbro.

So DC replace the imposter Superman with another imposter Superman. When will they bring back original Earth one Superman?

>>83370141
It was a great storytime OP, thanks

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>>83378513
the eyes look a lot like this guy

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>>83396717
>When will they bring back original Earth one Superman?

That guy lived happily ever after.

Everyone else fucking died.

>>83396717
He died, was reanimated, died again, then the reality where his body was buried was wiped out. His New 52 version was killed trying to get Apokolips armies off Earth 2.

>>83396944
Is that Superman or the Comedian?

>>83396944
That was an elseworld

>>83396951
>His New 52 version was killed trying to get Apokolips armies off Earth 2.
What? Did he appear in E2 or something?

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>>83396944

>Having to dye your glorious raven mane nondescript brown

Better he had died.

>>83396055
>>83396180
>>83396323
Thanks for the recs/suggestions. Wasn't really fishing for any, but good to have. I grabbed a torrent a couple years back of a bunch of different DC runs, and one part of it was pretty much every Superman post-CoIE story organized into a rough chronology. Was probably just going to read through that, focusing on the more recommended story arcs and runs.

>>83396501
Permanently? And then they'll let Lana or whoever take over? Or is that a mini?

>>83397751
>Permanently?
No one ever dies permanently. Not even Gwen Stacey or Uncle Ben.

>>83397063
>What? Did he appear in E2 or something?

I think he's talking about Earth-2 Superman, rather than Earth-1.

>>83396951
>His New 52 version was killed trying to get Apokolips armies off Earth 2.

Earth-2 Superman wasn't even "Kal-L" though, he was called Kal-El. He had living parents and apparently never even went through the early aggressive phase that the original Golden Age Superman and New 52 Superman went through (based on the first arc of Batman/Superman).

After 52, before Flashpoint, there was an "Earth-2" which similar, but wasn't actually the original Earth-2 (It had its own Powergirl, for example). The New 52 Earth-2 is presumably a rebooted version of that, rather than the original one.

>>83370458
Out of all this Rebirth nonsense, I'm most excited for Super-Sons.

So can we agree that Nuperman is becoming Superman prime in this new universe?

>>83399475
What? No? How? He's a pile of ashes buried six feet under. That doesn't make sense.

>>83399542
Did Superboy prime made sense? Did we have any hint of malevolence from him before he became evil? Nope. It was a complete asspull.

World will go on with new superman. Old Superman will come back eventually and see how the world moved without him and they even replaced with an better and more beloved Superman. Hell, maybe his soul is trapped in another realm like how Prime was trapped physically.

He will be mad.

>>83396745
This

>>83370141
>this whole fucking book
now this is a travesty

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>>83370407
Fuck, this actually broke my heart. What a sad end for a great Superman. He had more variety in 5 years than most other versions of the character had in 25.

People say that the original Death of Superman "meant something", but I was fucking 8 years old when that happened, and even I knew it was a marketing ploy. I knew Superman didn't die. I knew he would come back because people loved him, and DC couldn't do that. I knew he had to just be resting or in a coma or whatever. It meant nothing to me.

Meanwhile, this Superman died because nobody liked him. Neckbeards pissed and moaned "not muh", and declared he was too edgy, so DC replaced him. I want to say he'll be back, but at the same time, I could see them leaving him dead, and that fucking sucks, man. He was great.

That one panel, realizing that Lana is burying him with his parents... what a rough life this Superman led. That single panel made me feel more upset than the entirety of the hamfisted Death of Superman arc, because that one panel is real. It's not an event, it's not wallowing in its own grandiosity or spectacle, it's not trying to sell the comic. It's just a hero who died and is being laid to rest with his family.

>>83372193
Pfft. Talk about an overhyped character.

He one-shots Solaris after Solaris is nearly dead and everyone creams themselves thinking that he's the biggest, strongest Superman ever with reality warping and everything. He doesn't do shit. Everyone else does everything for him.

Rebuilding Lois? An Imp from the 5th Dimension does it for him. Bringing Krypton back to life? Justice League does it for him. Destroying Solaris? Green Lantern ring.

SSJuperman is basically like if Batman got his reputation for preptime by just showing up at a bus stop before the bus gets there.

>>83400665
He'll be back before the end of the year. Whether or not he'll be the main Superman again is up in the air.

>>83390284

I don't know about starting off with All Star. I did, sort of, along with Kingdom Come and the rest of the 2007 "I just saw 300" starter kit and didn't enjoy them that much. I loved them years later when I reread them and had more perspective about what Superman was all about. Reading All-Star off the bat just confused the hell out of me.

>>83400665

At least this Superman had a send off. Its better than just being erased from the timeline and never, ever being mentioned again like the treatment Wally got in Nu52.

>>83402320
Better to be happy that he lived than have to pretend he never lived at all.