Homestuck

>>83289266
It doesn't matter. None of it does, and Hussie agrees on that.

>>83289266
mom offering rose alcohol was ironic :^)

Roxy is perf and did nothing wrong and is also pretty
uwu

stop spamming threads holy shit

Mods, the old thread died, leave a new one alone so we can continue the discussion.

>>83289293
When did Hussie say anything like that?

>>83289308

No one spams threads unless the mods delete all of them, necessitating a new one.

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>>83288832
NONE OF THIS STUFF DOES MATTER THOUGH.

All this dialogue, all of it. It's fucking pointless, there is not enough of the comic even left to give it any weight or meaning. Roseprite has like ten line of dialogue before going full randumb lesbo-cat as Jasprose, whereupon she does nothing before disappearing from the comic forever.

you certainly can't say anything post retcon was important because the ending itself was written without the retcon in mind.
The retcon was to doctor up the kids in the most haphazardly manner possible and finish the comic. Nothing fucking matters at all.

woops we made three at once again
(because two in a row got deleted)

>>83289322
Clearly this is a sign they want MORE of these threads.

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Scruffy doesn't want us to be here.

>>83289308
>>83289322
>ended up with three threads at once
Is this the end

>>83289293
>>83289110

>Major conclusive character development doesn't matter because I say so

You can hate the ending all you want but you can't deny facts about the story. This all matters whether you like it or not.

I LOVE YOU, ARANEA

>>83289357

See >>83289385

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>>83289308
Many people want to talk about this topic, and want to stay to a single containment thread. But when the containment thread is deleted (by who?) before it can be found by those wanting to stay in quarantine, multiple people will try to make a new one.

Heaven forbid that people use a forum as a forum.

>roxy and john find the life ring in the ruins
>revive a ghost who can revive their friends
>they go on to fight the jacks, dogs, and condy
>something something lord english
>new universe
>the end

there, new and better ending written

>>83289360
You missed a ton of conversations.

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>>83288662 →
JOHN: vriska, wait.
JOHN: anyway, i'm glad we have you back on our side!
>vriska goes right on to insult jake in front of everyone and no one reacts
WHY DO I FUCKING BOTHER

>>83288724 →
>>83288767 →
Vriskas still a cunt, horses are ebin, jake is a loner that loves his friends

>>83289385
what character development?

any faults the characters had were fix like magic.

>>83289385
Right, and because the conclusive character development is with the post Game Over characters, none of what happens on the meteor/ship throughout Act 6 matters.

I want to say that John and Roxy's Game Over experiences matter, but they really don't all that much.

>>83289446

Apparently three years with Vriska turned everyone into a total doormat yes-man. Even Terezi. Even KARKAT. No one dares to speak against her, and she's always right.

I don't even know if Hussie is trolling or not.

>>83289446
You missed a bunch, go back.

>>83289357
andrew had the retcon in mind at least from the start of a6a6 or he wouldnt have told us there was gonna be 6 more acts. how would he have filled that many intermissions if the goal was to just jump straight to some collide-esque showdown?

>>83289446
hst is just asking how triggered you are about forced davekat

>>83289486
I can't tell either. Everything about Vriska in this intermission is so awful, from what she does to Jake and Tavros, to what she's done to Karkat and Terezi. I highly doubt Hussie could write this and not know this.

Davejade still best

>>83289446
VRISKA: Sorry to 8e the 8earer of 8ad news. It is literally... just a wallet.
Then why ever bring it up as otherwise? Why make a deal of it in the first place?

>>83289543
until you started reading through the post-retcon, i was kind of lukewarm about it

now i'm just sad

>>83289530
he knows, obviously. it is supposed to be a joke about the author insert loving her, and a joke about mary sues

the only question is, are we laughing

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>>83289446
Vriska is either:
- pushing the Page down because his power is the contrast between how low he can go and how high his potential is. She's doing the sayan thing where she's beating his self-confidence within an inch of its life so it will come back stronger, or
- Vriska is a bitch and seeing someone with the same class as her favourite chewtoy reminds her of how he left her to die long slow and painful on her quest bed, so she's taking it out on some stranger wearing shortpants.

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>>83289371

>>83289535
That's because it never got ruined
And the fetishes

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>>83289543
META JOKES

HUSSIE DOESN'T GIVE A FUCKING SHIT ABOUT HOMESTUCK ANYMORE

HERE IS YOUR FUCKING SCOURGE SISTER REUNION

HERE IS YOUR FUCKING DAVEKAT AND LET ME FUCK OVER KARKAT INTO TURNING HIM TO WOOBIE OVERLORD, SO EVERY GODDAMN JOHN/KARKAT, DAVE/KARKAT AND SOLLUX/KARKAT FICS BECOME CANON

FUCK JAKE AND JANE

FUCK DAVESPRITE

FUCK EVERYTHING

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Best ship coming through.

>tfw you will never be R4D shitpost buds with Mituna and Latula

>>83289584
>the only question is, are we laughing
I laughed when I watched Act 7 for the first time because I was so detached from it by then.

Then I re-read the comic, and was bothered, but came to terms with it.

Now seeing liveblogger go through it, I'm just sad.

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>>83289543
I feel ya jane

>>83289655
Latula was only with him out of guilt

>>83289543

This is actually a joke.

"Just a wallet" in Homestuck means it can literally contain an infinite amount of objects of any size. Apparently any old wallet can do that.

It was brought up because Terezi thought it would be necessary to do the thing Vriska ends up doing, and that John had it. I guess it was just a minor red herring.

Favorite flash? Mine is WV?:Rise up.

>>83289694
two dicks

>>83289680
Bro how many times. You missed conversations on the selection page.

>>83289655
i built up this idea of latula being pretty cool cos shes hot and good to mituna and terezi's ancestor. then i went back and replayed openbound and man her dialogue is pretty bad. probably the worst in openbound. sucks man.

>>83289738
[s] wake
aradia is beautiful

>>83289749
I guess they just don't care

>>83289749
Liveblogger doesn't give a shit about Davekat, anon.

>>83289694
t. Cronus Ampora

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>>83289763
>aradia is beautiful

>>83289810
What does the t stand for

>>83289762
It would have actually been nice to see the Openbound stuff expanded upon in-comic with pesterlogs and stuff. Not like the time wasted would be used for anything better in the shitstorm the main plot would become.

>>83289821
cute

>>83289810
Latula should sit on Cronus face and shut him up for good.

Fucking asshole!

>>83289857
Why finnish

>>83289749

They're just skipping stuff now.

TT: It's going to be a long ride through all this nothingness.
TT: Maybe I just thought some company would be nice.
TT: Before it's all over.
TG: ............
TT: So what'll it be?
TG: what
TT: I'll wake you, but only if you promise to rejoin the others.
TT: Could you give a message to John for me?
TG: sure
TG: but
TG: if im promising not to chase you down then theres not really any hurry to wake up
TT: Aw, are you sure?
TT: I was looking forward to bowling another wicked googly with the yarn.
TT: Sportsways.
TG: nah ill stay asleep a while
TT: Ok.
TG: what did you want me to tell john
TT: What was that?
TG: what
TT: Did you hear something?

What did Rose want to tell John before her suicide mission?

>>83289920
that she's gay

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>>83289920
What did Hussie mean by this?

>>83289920
take good care of viceroy von salamancer

>>83289920
I cannot come up with anything other than generic "I love you" shit, did Rose ever tell John anything important when they met at the end?

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>>83289963
Go to bed, Mituna.

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>>83289680

>>83289749
>>83289446
>Vriskas still a cunt, horses are ebin, jake is a loner that loves his friends
Like yeah its great dave calling jane hot n all but the whole meeting is dumb
>>83289503
You mean his super gay feeling jams with karkat over 3 fucking years that we didn't actually get to see in anything but vriskagram?
Fucking Dave/Jane has a better chance

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I WAS RAPED!

>>83289920

The thing that would make sense for her to have wanted to say in today's context where romance isn't on the table is that John was right about her going off the deep end, and that she shouldn't have tried to break the game and cut off her friends.

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>>83289977

What did Hussie mean by this?

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I found this absolute treasure while sorting through my images

>>83290001
no. whatever it was, it was dropped

>>83290040
>chance
It has been confirmed by word of God. And that's their final interaction too.

Don't be homophobic, support davekat.

Remember kids, there was never any hint of John/Rose in the comic and you're all nervous investors!

>>83290087

Kind of hot, no homo

>>83290087
I wish that was me.

>>83290139

"Word of god" means fucking nothing in Homestuck, don't be retarded. Half of what Hussie says is blatant lies, the other half is jokes and irony which MAY occasionally hold some truth.

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>>83290040
>JASPROSESPRITE^2: Meow meow motherfuckers.
WEW
E
W

>>83290139
Word of god also speaks of NepJohn as the endgame ship and Vriska being fat. We saw in act sevent that not only Vriska isnt fat, she also has jiggling boobs

>>83289898
When you say skipping do you mean like actually not reading stuff or just not posting about it

>>83290223
except this was said in private and not on a public site knowing everybody was listening

>>83290216
Oh boy you got to the first meme sprite

>>83290216
have fun with this for the next 80 pages
i'm not fucking with you

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>>83290050
bite the pillow

>>83290216
Get ready for much worse.

Why are the strilondes so good for incest? I think I like every incestuous strilonde pairing.

>>83290216
cat hybrid sprites

this is what we waited 7 years for

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>>83290216
>caliope put her text in red
wew

>>83290216
yeah. no.
jasprose is horrible

>>83289266
why the fuck are you guys still here?
dont you think is time to move on already?

>>83289717
more likely hussie planned on using it but then forgot about it and played it off as a joke

>>83290340
Hide the thread and move on.

>>83290156
I'm dumb and clearly missing something, but what is a "nervous investor"? AlI get from google is stock exchange stuff.

>>83290340
We are the four horsemen of /co/

>>83290340
I wish I knew how to let go
I'm here to cope with my pain

>>83290216
fuck what everyone says I like jasprosesprite?

>>83290216

Jasprose is great, the new sprites were the best development of this mostly shitty intermission.

>>83290363
Hide the "stop liking what I don't like" and let's keep having fun.

>no John disciplining Jasprosesprite
>with his dick

>>83290402
jasprose was great

the other... not so much

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>>83290426

>>83289429
Karkat couldnt be revived since evil Jane uses up his one extra life to make a point.

>>83290434
Both were pointless and bad

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>>83290316
>CALLIOPE: live.
>caliope is literally a plot device for another somehow more interesting caliope

Amazing

>>83290316
ET phone home! UuU

>sexually harasses dirk for ages
>guilt trips him for being homosexual
>everything gets twisted so that it's dirk's fault instead


Roxy is perf and did nothing wrong and is also pretty
uwu

>>83290262
It got out immediately though, it shouldn't be framed as something said in confidence.

>>83290374

The Homestuck shipping stock exchange. If you liked John/Rose, you are a nervous investor. You grabbed the first guy and the first girl and put them together, clearly showing your lack of stock exchange acumen.

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>>83290457
who gives a fucking shit a8out karkat

>>83290485
uh mom was a perfect mother and that proves that roxy must have been perfect too because their ultimate selves are the same

>>83289354
>No one spams threads unless the mods delete all of them, necessitating a new one.
> WE'RE ENTITLED TO CAMP THIS BOARD

good fucking luck with that

>>83290519
Ah, I see. That makes sense now, thank you.

>>83290534
WHERE IS THE FANG

>>83290534
Why does this keep getting posted? I mean, it's good, yes, but that doesn't justify it being posted several times in every thread for no reason

>>83290534
Aradia!

>>83290563
THERE WAS NO FANG

>>83290457
He couldn't be revived by her
She can only revive someone once and under the influence of Condy and the assumption that there's a chance that she'd be let unbrainwashed at some point, she used up his life to make him extra useless

>>83290460

To the very end people including me were sure that regular Calliope would become important via some dark twist.

It was so perfect too. She has the life ring, Caliborn in the future has the void ring, the rings are implied to be one and the same. Then factor the foreshadowing that if someone says the other cherub's name, they will take over the body, and Calliope still having the green not-predominated twirls.

Nothing at all came from it. At least not yet. What a waste of a character.

>>83290534
>aradi will never fall into your arms

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>>83290460
Is this even that roxy's caliope or is it the ghost of the new timeline's caliope?
What timeline is the Winning Caliope from?
How the fuck can they interact like this?

>>83290555

Also, Andrew's commentary in one of the Homestuck books called John/Rose shippers nervous investors.

>>83290533

We are in fact entitled to have a thread about a popular comic on the comics board.

>>83290457
Karkat is useless.

>>83290216
IT GETS WORSE

>>83290601
their interactions are identical between timelines, why would it make any difference

>>83290566
>that doesn't justify it being posted several times in every thread

Yes it does. Nice pictures are nice. They make the thread nicer. This is an image board, we talk while posting images. If you have other nice pictures, then post them.

>>83290601
furthest ring shenanigans

there were only ever 2 timelines for the cherubs: LE timeline and god-tier calli

so that's roxy's calli

>>83290601

Have you played Undertale? You're getting to the part of the story where it makes more sense if you've played Undertale.

>>83290601
There was no Calliope from the old timeline since the Sburb session that would have created their shit never succeeded

Which opens up the plot hole of how the fuck did they exist in the old timeline

>>83290601

Diverging timelines don't affect other universes. At least not with regular time travel. There should still only be one Calliope who interacted with one Roxy. Retcon rules have been known to be a bit iffy with this though.

>>83290601
Roxy getting the power to appear anywhere she wants in the Furthest Ring out of nowhere is the hugest bullshit power that has even been introduced in this comic, and nobody talks about it.

Also, how did Davepeta reach the Green Sun in a few minutes when it took the Meteor crew three fucking years to reach the session?

>>83290485
It's Dirk's fault for being a gay

>>83289266

because hussie was just talking directly to the audience

he acknowledged the ending was a mess through a chatlog about 6 times or so

>>83290663

Not really a plot hole, it just means that retcons were accounted for by Paradox Space all along and really are just regular time travel with some extra perks.

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>>83290601
It's Roxy's Calliope.
Spooky Calliope is from a timeline where Caliborn lost the puberty fight. Not dead, so no dreambubble shit. Her Caliborn is dead, and we never meet him.
Roxy's Calliope is from a timeline where Caliborn won the puberty fight, so this Calliope is dead, and needs the Life ring to enter the Medium.
> how can seperate and contrary timelines interact?
man, fuck, i dont know

>>83290694

Don't reply to liveblogger with spoilers retard, kill yourself.

>>83290694
>Also, how did Davepeta reach the Green Sun in a few minutes when it took the Meteor crew three fucking years to reach the session?
That actually makes sense though

Space in the Furthest Ring is non-Euclidean, so the time it takes to get from Point A to Point B can vary

>>83290663
>>83290659
There had to be a pre-retcon and post-retcon Calliope to talk to the kids, which means that

A. Game Over was in a doomed timeline
B. John's retconporting and leaving the ring behind overwrote a good alpha by letting Aranea get the ring
C. Condy makes Universe C in the GO timeline

>>83290694
davepeta is some kind of time god. sollux blasts the meteor to the green sun instantly too. three years was the time a particular journey took, theres no specific period itll take to get places in the void

>>83290601
Yo on a scale of 1 to 10 how much do you like davesprite? Just wondering

>>83290756
lmao, having a real life waifu is creepy

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>>83289446
>Only character to ever say anything negative about Vriska post-retcon is (Tavros)
He was the hero we needed and deserved.

>>83290601
Dream bubble characters are unaffected by the retcon.

>>83290746
>Her Caliborn is dead, and we never meet him.
I wonder how different he is from our boy

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>>83290809
this is gonna be good

>>83290831
i think he got absorbed instead of killed, so he doesn't really exist as a separate entity

we know for a fact that Caliborn interacted with both the Game Over and the Retcon timelines, and his actions in both would have been different by necessity

so there's at least two caliborns

>>83290829
>Only character to ever say anthing negative about Vriska post-retcon is (Tavros)
>forgetting Karkat

>>83290813
Isn't a real life waifu what a regular wife is? Normies are the weirdest people of all.

>>83290813

Having autism is creepy too, but you don't see me getting on your case for it.

>>83290831
he might not even exist. its suggested that if predomination happens properly they combine. also, roxy's calliope may actually be dream self calliope who was killed by jack. normal calliope might have been absorbed too.

>>83290859
I don't think Hussie thought things through.

>>83290855
Does the other personality integrate into the dominant one, or does it just disappear completely leaving only the traits of the dominant one?

what actually mattered in Homestuck in the end

>>83290859
retcons rewrite stuff properly. unless you died and went to the dream bubbles everything you did actually got rewritten. so theres still only one caliborn

>>83290940
caliborn.

>>83290732
>>83290663
You want a plot hole? In the version of history in Calliope's records, Vriska stayed dead. There's a whole hidden successful timeline apparently.

>>83290940
the friends we made along the way

>>83290900
The one who got defensive over nothing was you, anon. Guess who's the autist here. (Hint: it's you)

>>83290868
Who?

>>83290940
we had fun reading it for a couple years
a lot of nice art got made
there was a lot of porn

>>83290964
The retcon timeline makes contradicts so many things about the rest of the comic that you might as well consider it non-canon.

>>83290940
aradia

>>83290940
The dank plotholes that came out of it

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>>83290975

>>83290937
hard to say, alt calliope doens't really act like calliope or caliborn

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>>83290855
>>83290912
> multiple personalities get integrated into the resulting single ego
hoooold up. So when Calliope-the-ghost fucked off beyond the Furthest Ring (probably with the help of the Horror Terrors since that's their thing), then that means Caliborn is missing the parts of his adult self that were supposed to come from Calliope. Our boy is incomplete.

So the reason why he's searching for Calliope's ghost is because he wants to be whole. And everybody in three or four universes and terrors from beyond space are all working together to keep him from becoming whole.

Jesus Christ, who's the real villain in this story?

>>83291039
hussie

>>83290964
>hussie vainly trying to make the retcon fit into the story by referencing penis Ouija post retcon
it was all for nothing

>>83290964
Game Over was a doomed timeline created by Aranea's intervention or an Alpha that overwrote what was supposed to be the original alpha, caused by John retconning out of usefulness during Game Over.

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>>83291064

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So I haven't read this garbage since they introduced the Alpha kids and the alt-trolls who all failed and got sent to some deadzone or something and there were lots of dead alt-trolls.

Is Jack Noir dead yet? He was my favourite dude. Also what happened to the Midnight Crew?

>>83290964
until john retconned out and left the ring for aranea, the session was going to be successful, without vriska. then game over happened because of that. and then they re-retconned and succeeded with vriska. every time they wrote a new alpha timeline and everything previous in the comic was changed slightly eg. calliopes records.

>>83291065
When did he do that?

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I started reading when the omegapause started, it took me 2 months to catch up and then i learned about that it was near the end, i never cared about arcs, development or nothing really, i enjoued homestuck because it became an important part of me, the ending in my opinion maybe was a little lazy, but i enjoyed every last bit of it.

I still don't care about the arcks or the void aroubd some plots points, i even don't care about the epiloge or HS 2.0.
it's over and it was one hell of a ride that i will have within me for the years to come

What does fuchsia taste like?

>>83291087
Best Jack wins in the end while the Midnight Crew stay dead

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>>83290601
>all these fucking words about how karkat hates himself
Esus Chrsit

>>83290809
I love him like I love all strilondes, so like 9.

>>83291039
Lord English is a cluster deep in the session that just wants to form.

>>83291039
Caliborn is a destructive asshole, he probably just found out about dream bubbles from Doc Scratch and then headed out to make sure his sister couldn't come back and replace him somehow.

Also Lord English shattering the fabric of reality and killing ghosts isn't what makes him the villain, it's the part where he engineers the destruction of universes and his cronies constantly give the protagonists a bad time.

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>>83291087
Jack got a happy ending. For some reason.

>>83291160
>spare jack noir
>a dude we have no reason to like
>kill spades slick
>the guy we were all rooting for

W H Y

>>83291144
Good, coz he's one of the few characters with a good arc. You dont need to worry about him

>>83291144
ay when you get to the recurring broken character select screen: hold your mouse over each select box for stuff youve already read and it carries on the stories

>>83291038
She's probably what a cherub is supposed to act like

Alpha Calliope had her emotional development stunted by humans encouraging her to be nice and Caliborn is just naturally really fucking weird

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>>83291144
Oh wow

>>83291108
during the frog platform a lot of people were pointing out the retcon didn't make sense because calliopes book references penis ouija
cue it being described as still happening post retcon but in a different way

>>83291117
I've been with Homestuck from the start and I share most of your feelings. But you've got to realize we're a huge minority. Even though I personally am satisfied, I still feel like Hussie should make an effort to cheer up everyone else, if only to make these threads a bit happier.

But yeah, the fact that people can make it to the end of Homestuck and still passionately care about character arcs really baffles me.

>>83291122
Raspberry jam.

>>83291224
WEENIE

>>83291117
learn to spell you fuck

>>83291220
Look whichever page you're referring to anon, I don't remember this shit.

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>>83291224
I Care About You Karkat
I Care Enough To Cause Head Trauma

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>>83291224
This is p sweet tho

>>83290950
>unless you died and went to the dream bubbles everything you did actually got rewritten
I mean
I get that that's ostensibly how it works, but it doesn't make any sense. It's just totally stupid. That would suggest that dream bubbles are outside of the narrative, instead of outside of the universe. If I think about it too hard I get pissed off. It's too inconsistent and frustrating how many bullshit assumptions I have to make to accept that as true.

>>83291269
dont bully the foreigner

>>83291144
>>83291224
Remember how Karkat was supposed to be the troll king rather than a third wheel in Dave and Jade's relationship?

kek, all these fuccbois desperate to prove that Caliborn "dindu nothing" in order to undermine Hussie

pretty pathetic desu

>>83291272
Is this how Karkat became a Page now?

Can someone draw Karkat wearing a Page outfit? For scientifc reasons, of course.

>>83291294
found calliope

>>83291292
He still is the troll king though.

>>83291294
Caliborn literally never in his entire life did a single thing incorrect
Name ONE
ONE
YOU CAN'T

Let's settle this shit.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10346432

>>83291281
dream bubbles are definitely outside of the narrative. its fucking bizarre but its what it is

>>83291276
>Rose and Roxy
What the fuck happened to their face

>>83291276

It's getting hard to tell, do you like Jasprose?

>>83291276
oh yeah, that pillow on Rose's head is from November 2014, the one that Rose's mom used for Rosie's poem on the fridge.

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>>83291224
>JASPROSESPRITE^2: The fact is John's hot mom one time you and your cornball book made a pussy pancake out of me.
>JASPROSESPRITE^2: How's that sound cookietits, does it tickle your toebeans?? :3
Holy Shit

>>83291294
I make posts about how he dindu nuffin because I found him likable and sympathetic which compels me to defend him on imageboards

>>83291333

Let me tell you about something called Fn'F

>>83291316
No

He is the cuck king

>>83291356
five nights at freddy's?

>>83291324
anyone who votes spades is a fucking mongoloid

jack noir was the best villain we ever had and the pin that tied the best parts if homestuck together

>>83291347
>you will never see a sexy pussy pancake jasprose

>>83291294
His only kill counts are calliope and hussie whom was stupid enough to dress like calliope. Nobody cares to dreambubble ghosts since they can have existencial crisis and not have the opition to.
The real villians are his subordinates.

>>83291347
well at least you enjoy jasprose. im happy for you

>>83291376
this

>>83291367
Trolls are the cuck race on new Earth.

>>83291413
>trolls are only kept around in the new world to watch humans fuck

>>83291325
But characters who are in the narrative can interact with the dream bubbles, and vice versa. Roxy can travel outside of the narrative at will. The meteor can pass through a dream bubble, making a location-out-of-the-narrative into a location-in-the-narrative, then John can retcon the narrative, and then the meteor can pass through the exact same dream bubble again. Fucking WHAT. Did they encounter the same Kankri twice? But Kankri wasn't affected by the retcon, except for the ways in which he was affected by the retcon, fucking... Fuck. Fuck my ass.

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>>83291347
>>83291276

>>83291336
I unironically adore her

>>83291432
it's more or less rose, but happy and with no inhibitions

>>83291428
Just give up on any theory that uses the word "narrative", problem solved

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>>83291432
awesome
shes really not bad

>>83291398
Does Hussie's self-insert count? He's got the whited-out eyes like dead .... "death of the author" ah fuck.
anyways, Hussie was probably already dead before Lord English assaulted him. Or a Derse carapacian, but that's very unlikely.

>>83291457
Davepeta is the one that is crap

>>83291428
the two meteor trips were totally different as far as i can tell. same trolls at different times, or different trolls, or... who knows. suffice to say openbound still happened and was never rewritten. and yet everything that took place in any session or universe WAS rewritten by the retcons. not just pushed to a doomed timeline, but completely remade

>>83291460
Hussie couldn't have been dead before LE killed him, we see him in the final pages leading up to Collide.

>>83291491
>starting to see davepeta/jade tags around now because davekat shippers use it as an excuse to get jade out of the way

>>83291491

Autism.

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>>83291432
JASPROSESPRITE^2: Thanks professor nerd I'm feeling a lot more knowledgeable about a fake thing now!
>>83291444
She's perf

>>83291520
I know the red stuff isnt blood, but that still looks painful as fuck

>>83291520
Why the hell is her whip tied around her waist?

>>83291428
Openbound happened.In the GO timeline, the meteor passed through the bubbles. Meenah saw (Karkat), for example.
After the retcon, the meteor did not pass through the bubbles, so retcon Karkat has no memory of Meenah.

>>83291558
yeah that's probably the best word to describe davepeta with

>>83291428
>>83291454
Yeah, it's pretty simple when you remove the meta concept "narrative" bullshit.

Trolls from one timeline go on a meteor trip through a zone outside of the timeline. When John rewrites the timeline, another meteor trip has to happen since you don't get to rewrite the Furthest Ring. This means they had different experiences with the dancestors, but the dancestors remember both meetings.

>>83291630
They show some bubble stuff in Vriskagram, Vriska even meets Meenah and (Vriska), it's just that Karkat never met Meenah.

>>83291553
Is there a davekat bingo card anywhere?

>>83291600
to keep the cum inside

>>83291571
Jasprose is great because she tells you how Rose really feels about all her friends.

>>83291522
I feel like I'm on the verge of uncovering a huge hole in this theory. There might have been something that Gamzee did. Gamzee was present during Meenahquest and did some insidious shit. Then that Gamzee was retconned out of existence. Then Meenahquest happened again. Which means that it was probably a separate dream bubble, because both Gamzees had the god tier outfits, for which they needed to obtain the codpiece from Kurloz. Did Gamzee 1 have the crowbar? If Gamzee 1 took the crowbar out of Meenahquest then it's over, the theory is shot.

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>>83291571
JASPROSESPRITE^2: So who is it going to be, hm? :3
JASPROSESPRITE^2: A princely young wizard who wrought science through a wand?
JASPROSESPRITE^2: Or a fishy young princess who never spoke once to Lalonde?
JASPROSESPRITE^2: What about "other guy", the one thought half-dead only?
JASPROSESPRITE^2: Or the girl who likes ships! Cause they made her less lonely. ;3
JASPROSESPRITE^2: Meowsers what a mystery!!!
I'm losing my fucking mind
How does the bastard do it

>>83291630
They pass through a dancestor bubble again, not sure if it's the same one. Gamzee 2 has a conversation with Kurloz (2?) about Vriska 2.

>>83291655
its a bad idea to remove the 'narrative' concept because the whole point of the juju is that it interacts with the narrative directly and not time or space. if you try to treat it like normal homestuck time travel and apply doomed timeline and alpha timeline logic to it it doesnt make sense.

>>83291678
Just you fucking wait.

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>>83291678
BAD TIMES AHEAD

>>83291678
>Sollux has been reduced to just "other guy"

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friendly reminder dave and dirk have always been homosexuals

>>83291678
Because it's the real rose we followed for many years not a cope that vriska got unadicted

>>83291678
That's right Liveblogger, let the little things bring you joy.

>>83291720
That's the only way I can make it make sense. The entirety of homestuck is based on a predestination paradox requiring retcon time travel. The story can't exist without John having pre-emptively retconned it.

>>83291731
Dirk is full-on gay, while Dave has always striked me off more as bisexual, with a fixation on dudes due to the influence of his faggot bro

>>83291678
I can't wait for this joy to turn to anguish
truly hussie is going to break you one last time before tossing the corpse in and driving the last nail into the lid
And then I'll have an excuse to finish these three half-empty bottles of whiskey
Fun times ahead, folks

>>83289266
if anyone thinks that him saying "characters don't have arcs" was anything but irony they're an idiot

it doesn't matter if they think that they're people who don't have arcs, they're still characters in a story who do have character arcs.

satisfying character arcs? maybe not. but still.

and nobody should say Bro was evil but saying that Dave's upbringing wasn't abusive is stupid. Doesn't matter if the abuse was intentional, it still happened. Same with Mom. There were a lot of emotional problems between rose and Mom, and a shitton of communication problems. Mostly stemming from Mom being an alcoholic who also had no business raising a child.

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>liveblogger actually likes sexual offender seizure dyke

I feel betrayed

>>83291678

Jasprose brought back the joy in Homestuck for me after slogging through weeks of shitty Vriska updates and character assassinations.

>>83291772
>fixation on dudes

he's got a bigger fixation on familial ass, but probably feels more comfortable hanging with dudes

>>83291794
Sexual harassment is funny, sorry tumblr.

>>83291834
yikes

>>83291721
>>83291725
>>83291774

The thing you are talking about is great though. And liveblogger has probably been spoiled on it anyway because you all can't keep your mouths shut.

>>83291668
when the crowbar gets retconned out of existence it could just get reset into the same position in the void since as a juju it shouldnt have an 'end'. and its not hard to imagine multiple codpieces being around. but honestly i think that the crowbar and jack english's existence post-retcon are a huge plothole that cant be explained reasonably.

>>83291796
Not only Vriska updates, every single update was BEING COY ABOUT DAVEKAT XD

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>>83291834

>>83291794
>yfw they like the ending

>>83291834
tumblr loves jasprose, because sexual harassment is ok when it's a woman doing it

>>83291855
>The thing you are talking about is great though

heres your (You)

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>>83291870

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>>83290007
175 N07 3V3N MY B3D71M3 Y3T

>>83291189
ULTIMATE SELF

>>83291870
>yfw they like davekat

>GCAT liked to mess with people and was even more of an asshole cat than Jaspers
Let's assume GCATavros's allergy goes away and he gets to be a regular character.
Imagine how hilarious and nasty Tavros could be with a cat's no-filter, no-fucks given attitude. That's comedy gold waiting to happen.

>>83291839
You clearly don't belong on 4chan, kindly fuck off somewhere else.

>>83291883
He hadn't been relevant for years and all he did was show up and mope about how irrelevant he was

>>83291924
First guardian animals apparently never do anything to the personalities of the people they fuse with

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>>83291678
>DIRK: So when are we supposed to fight?
>DAVE: god i hope soon

>>83291753
i need to wrote how this shit fits together down at some other point sorry. its past midnight here and i cant even begin to explain this theory because its fucking complicated. and may all be retarded

>>83291902
>>83291915
I dont think this was planned

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>>83291902
>>83291915
niice

>>83291902
>>83291915
Tunamind.

>>83291678
Yo liveblogger, we are approaching the actual honest to god ending, so I want to ask you now.

There are going to be two final animations coming up, both are fucking huge, the second one being very distinctive from what you've seen so far, you won't be able to miss it. After the second animation, PLEASE DO NOT ADVANCE TO THE NEXT PAGE, instead come back here and share your predictions. It's not that far from the ending, and I want to know how you think it's going to go down.

Thanks, you're the greatest.

>>83291863
But like, we're working on the assumption that dream bubbles can't be retconned. So if you have a situation where the crowbar is in a dream bubble, it is removed from the dream bubble, and then the timeline it was in gets removed, then it's just gone. There was no "place in the void" for it to return to. Its circular timeloop is intercepted and cut, which eats up the entire time loop... fucking fuck fuck fucker shit

>>83291902
>>83291915
>mitunamind
7W0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>83291955
>>83291964
Seconding this

>>83291902
>>83291915
How fitting.

>>83291964
>>83291989
thirded

>>83291878
>tumblr never got mad at roxy for trying to bully dirk into not being gay
>tumblr did get mad at jake for not wanting to date dirk anymore and breaking up their gay ship
tumblr lacks consistency

>>83291968
I feel like I should mention this to Tex Talks, maybe he'll be able to explain it

>>83291955
>>83291964
>>83291989
>>83292002
we're still 300 pages from the first of the big flashes dumbasses

>>83292012
Tumblr also tries to say that Roxy isn't straight and ships her with calliope and the likes
they aren't exactly bright

>>83291955

Be sure to hover over each of the dialogs every time you get back to the character select screen for this part.

The story continues for each dialog every time.

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>>83291955
Go everytime I start to bite back in he just keeps doing it

>>83291964
Yeah np

Did Crowbar have the Crowbar in Collide?

>>83292012
Tumblr was mad about Dirk WAY more for being "abusive" towards Jake. So no, the "precious gay ship" argument doesn't work.

Roxy's behavior was pretty fucked up though. Jane's too. Just imagine how much shit would go down if alpha kid's genders were swapped.

>>83292091
YO MAKE SURE YOURE MOUSING OVER THE BROKEN CHARACTER SELECT SCREEN FOR STORY SHIT AND FAHNNY JOKES

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>>83292047
can't they just be gal pals?

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>>83292091
cr88 8attle

>>83291968
It's not intercepted and cut, it's rewritten.

Jeez, /hsg/ should win an award for makng up headcanon just to be mad about.

>>83292104
He didn't.

>>83292157
No. Friendship is problematic.

>>83292170

this

>>83292146
>>83292090

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>>83292170

>>83292140
When I was on tumblr years ago and those updates dropped, all I saw was "why is jake ignoring him? that's so mean :( jake is so selfish" and I even saw some posts about Jake being the abusive one. If they've changed their mind on that, then good.

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>>83292170
That sure is Meenah sticking up for her girlfriend. (gillfriend?)

>>83292170
Fuck, I tried to blank this whole sub-plot out of my mind.

>>83292216
*her loli

>>83291772
>fixation
Almost all his freudian slips involve hot moms and girlbutts
Hussie established what his actual fixations and slips up look like, the lol gay now thing really came out of nowhere, no matter what /r/homestuck tries to forcibly claim

Let's play a game

>THERE IT IS AGAIN, MAKING IT ALL ABOUT YOU, EVEN WHEN TRYING TO BE HEROIC. YOU LET THAT NEED BLIND YOU AND YOU DID SOMETHING REALLY STUPID, BASICALLY LEAVING NO OTHER OPTION BUT FOR YOU TO GET KILLED.

Who said this line in the comic? I've de-quirked it, obviously.

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>>83292216
there is only one girl meant for meenah

>>83291964
you absolute fucking bastard

>>83292249
Dirk

>>83292170
i literally love meenahs fuckin daydreams on the character select screen. best thing in this fucking intermission. meenah is bae

>>83292249
karkat

>>83292104
No, Union Jack had it.

>>83292249
I feel like that's Vriska to Tavros.

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>>83292254
:::;D

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>>83292170
>JOHN: can't say the experience has been anything other than perfectly agreeable. :p
JOHN YOU MURDERED A MAN
YOU'RE WEARING HIS SKIN

>>83292249
isnt this dave talkin to rose

>>83292170

this

>>83292190

>>83292249
Wait wait wait maybe AR to Dirk?

>>83292249
Sounds like Robo Dirk.

>>83292320
the only way she could see cra8 8attle is by mousing over dude

>>83292311
i was waiting the entire subact for someone to call him out

>>83292311

I'm pretty sure John is sociopathic

>>83292249
Terezi?

>>83292311
Is that not normal for a boy his age?

oh now i feel dumb

>>83292249
Could also be Doc Scratch to Rose.

Damn, I think the variety of possibilities here says something.

>>83292348
All of the Homestuck protagonists are

They didn't give a shit about the end of the fucking world

>>83292356
fuck
i meant to reply to this
>>83292336

>>83292179
>we're working on the assumption that dream bubbles can't be retconned.
WHERE DOES THE CROWBAR GO ANON
if gamzee takes it out of the bubble and then he gets retconned from existence WHERE DOES IT GO

>>83292311
john feels no logical emotions he is the audiences avatar he is a totally blank slate

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>>83292311
JOHN: i think maybe we should try to drop the stuff about who is the real version of who anyway. it's weird and it just hurts people's feelings.

>>83292261
>>83292280
>>83292314
>>83292325
>>83292333
>>83292351
>>83292365
All 100% wrong.

>>83292299
Half right

The correct answer is Vriska talking to (Vriska)
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009686

>>83292311
>Davesprite is regarded as phony for the entire duration of the comic by John to the point where it's a glaring character flaw
>LOL LEMME JUST SWHOOSH RIGHT ON IN TO THIS NEW SESSION, BLESSED BE SKAIA THAT ALL MY FRIENDS AREN'T DEAD

Kid's fucking insane.

>>83292337
>>83292348
>>83292353
>>83292311
Goofy as John is he legitimately does not give a fuck who dies. He's never cried once, shown any emotion other than "gosh...." The kid might be autistic, now that I think about it.

>>83292411
anger

anger enough to beat someone to death with his bare hands

>>83292384
if a universe possibility gets retconned its not hard to imagine that certain items that are in that universe that started in the void return to their original positions in the void

>>83292384
The dream bubbles can't be retconned but Gamzee can.

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>>83292373
>>83292348
>>83292411

>sociopath man writes a comic
>all the character are sociopaths

This is "what did you expect?" moments

>>83292390
You got a problem with Davesprite?

>>83292390
>treats alt selves like shit
>becomes an alt self
>"hey who even cares which version i am right guys haha"

>>83292186
>>83292290
I meant a duplicate, or the same crowbar at a different point on its timeline, not the one that gamzee gave to union jack

>>83292390
If only Davesprite were there.

>>83292393
AHHHHH FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>83292373

Considering the world and their exposure, Jade not really internalizing that as a massive tragedy is at least excusable. She grew up absolutely isolated and was raised more by Carapacians on Prospit.

Come to think of it the destruction of Prospit and her dreamself was more distressing to her.

John, Dave, and Rose don't have as much a pass; they definitely had more contact with humanity, if strained for Rose who lived in a rural environment.

>>83292436
which means that the crowbar vanishes with him
he removed it from the dream bubble, which can't be changed
the world outside of the dream bubble was deleted from existence
the crowbar is gone

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>>83292411

>>83292411
his dreamself shed a tear at dream jade dying

>>83292395
I wish Davesprite slapped John's shit in.

>>83292411
Everyone in Homestuck is an autist incapable of really caring about others, just like Hussie himself

>>83292429
That would be an example of the retcon having an impact on the events inside of the dream bubble.