Is really hard to introduce a complete new superhero (that is

Bit of both. It's significantly harder and so they're unwilling to bother.

You can introduce a new hero and earn 80, or use an old one and earn 100. Every time.

So the choice will ALWAYS be #2.

>>83212368

This, unfortunately.

>>83212330
Is there any recent character that is both successful and not derivative/successor?

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I think part of the problem is how anemic comic books are in general

It's always hard to start up a new thing, but when you're dealing with a playing field where the most successful stuff does maybe 100k a month...

Also, from a business standpoint, there's less incentive for creators to introduce new characters at the big two because they are basically giving up the rights to that creation by doing it as work-for-hire. Would you rather introduce a new Avenger and MAYBE get some royalties if you're lucky, or try your luck at trying to get an independent property off the ground and see if you can make some of that sweet Kirkman money?

Either way your odds are bad, but one pays off a looooot better than the other

>>83212549
Gravity?? Maybe. I think he kinda fell by the wayside in recent years.

>>83212549
Villain or hero? New villains have a lot more success than new heroes.

>>83212549
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_superhero_debuts#Comic_book_7
judge for yourself on success.

>>83212655
Guess 2008 Kick-Ass.

When was the last time Marvel or DC introduced a new hero character (really new not successor/derivate) and made something with him?

Runaways?

>>83212688
>a new hero character (really new not successor/derivate)
The method for introducing new characters is to put them in an existing book and see how well they do and then give them their own book. Because they have to be introduced through someone else your request is almost impossible.

>>83212680
Also Invincible and Atomic Robo.

>>83212740
Both are older and Kick-Ass got 2 movies.

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>>83212611
This guy?
>>83212622
Protagonist, I guess?
>>83212655
I'd say Invincible, Atomic Robo, Kickass.
Big two side... yikes.

People are barely willing to read any superhero that's not Superman/Batman or the Avengers, and the rest of the heavy hitters are still driven by fans.

Anything with a character who's not a classic Leaguer/Avenger already sells like shit, new characters fare even worse.

It took decades to turn Deadpool and Harley Quinn from pretty obscure to meme superstars.

>>83212549
Runaways is only thirteen years old.

>>83212788
Yeah, them. I always put them in same bag as Young Avengers, I'm afraid.

>>83212818
But Young Avengers literally have Avengers in the name. Runaways isn't connected to anything originally.

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>>83212330
The only comics that sell well are the ones that everybody will buy because they are characterfags, or because of shocking click bait-style marketing.

>>83212914
I wish Fairy Tail was seinen so we could get real porn.

>So we don't have more actually new heroes cause the readers

This.

I know it's a bit mean, but this is one of the few cases in the industry that is ENTIRELY on the readers (and the fact that most comic readers are almost brain-damaged levels of stupid).

There's just no demand for completely new superheroes anymore. Part of it is obvious: the culture/mentality surrounding comics is much different now than it was in the past. In the past, comics were a thing -- akin to a fad -- that could vanish at any moment in time. Now, with the abundance of movies and other things, it's truly understood and felt that comics are a longlasting cultural staple. But that leads to people putting their time and energy into the most long-lasting and popular icons, not new heroes.

>>83212688
Blue Marvel was back in 2008, introduced in his own series, and now he's one of the stars of Ultimates. Pretty successful, but also 8 years ago.

>>83212951
>Hiro will never do hentai
Just give me the fucking noose.

>>83212330
Publishers would be perfectly happy to push new heroes but they aren't willing to pay creators for them, still insisting on old fashioned work for hire contracts

>>83212330

Don't publishers only make new heroes so they can kill them off quickly?

1.create a character
2.give him a purpose for your story
3.don't rely on the character's gender, race and/or sexuality
4.hope that Bendis doesn't get to write him

nothing else you can do, really

>>83212688
Ms. Marvel? Other than the name, Kamala is pretty much her own thing.

>>83214437
A name means a lot though in terms of getting readers to pay attention

>>83212549
Ben10? All popular mass produced anime ones? Fake anime ones? (like Avatar)

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