Diamondback in Luke Cage

Looks fine.
Don't act like they are making un-needed changes to a beloved character. Luke's entire extended cast in the comics is garbage and you know it.

>>83197707
It's not even a production shot, they'll "fix" it when you see him with lighting and little CGi enhancements

>>83197707

I'm not really sure what the point of the goofy helmet is. The rest of the costume seems pretty spot on though.

>>83197707

For a second I thought this was an Arrow thread and Diggle had gotten a costume redesign.

>>83197707
Isn't Diamondback a girl?

>>83197707
I thought diamond back was a hot pink haired girl...Why is she a black man now?

Obviously he's been cyborged. Probably after Luke fucks him up early in the season and then returns with enhancements only to get fucked up in short order again.
Dude is literally a throw away character whose nom de guerre is better known as a hot female Captain America foil.

>>83197707
John Diggle got a new costume?

>>83197707
This could be awesome if he appears in an episode where Jessica Jones appears and it's just the Luke and her ripping him verbally apart. No fighting, no other plot, just 50 minutes of them insulting the guy until he can't take it anymore and kills himself. The rest of the series is Cage and Jones learning to live with having bullied a man to death.

>>83197955
Sex Change.

>>83197943
First Diamondback was Willis Stryker a childhood friend of Cage.

>>83198116
Huh.

>>83198116
He sounds like a faggot. I prefer pink hair snek

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>>83198148
>>83198163
His bit is trick knives (Poison Explosives, Sonic Waves)

He was dispatched rather quickly hence Pinky showing up later.

>>83197787
No it isn't, he actually has a really awesome world and cast of characters, you just never read them and don't have the vision to see it's potential. You don't even like these characters to begin with anon.

What's the point of adapting Power Man if literally nothing is going to be taken from the source material

>>83198243
I wonder if they'll play with this theme of unsatisfactory revenge?

>>83198532
Instead of accidentally blowing himself up he intentionally heroes to deprive Luke of a victory.

>>83197707
>>83198163
I am so disappointed with this. Netflix is meant to be grounded and Luke Cage has some of the most grounded villains ever. By the FALTINE FUCKING FLAMES, why did the writers add some stupid cyber shit? He was a guy that was good with knives and wore a snakeskin suit. He had trick knives. People loved Winter Soldier, hire the choreographer to make some bad ass knife fights. It's fucking easy

This is a plot by the White Man. It has to be.

>>83197707
>>83197906
I was going to say, this is Black Driver on Arrow tier

>>83197943
>>83197955
Due to the #GiveCaptainAmericaABoyfriend campaign Marvel decided to turn Diamondback into a black male and introduce him in Luke Cage, then we will see him in Infinity Wars where he will be paired up with Captain America.

>>83198656
Cool

>>83198532
>last scene of the season
>luke killed the arizona baseball baseball mascot
>Luke walks over to jessica lying on the ground and starts to choke her
>she gently touches his face as he's choking the life out of her
>"sweet christmas!" he exclaims before bursting into treats
>jessica calls him disgusting

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>>83198342
One of his villains is half man half fish...

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>>83198926
And another has a fucking roulette wheel on his chest.

Face it dude, Luke's got some stupid villains.

>>83197707
Is this reboot Robocop?

>>83198652
Knives against a guy shown in a previous season to be impervious to knives. You should be a show runner.
"B-but they are TRICK knives!"
Yes so much less goofy than whatever-it-is they are doing in the show.

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>>83198926
What exactly would be wrong with a horrifying Dagon like urban legend fish monster that lurks beneath Harlem?

>>83199033
Is the Riddler just too outrageous for you too? I don't think you even like comic book superheroes to begin with anon.

>>83197787
>Don't act like they are making un-needed changes to a beloved character.
They're making un-needed changes to one nobody cares about. With that stupid helmet, now no one ever will.

>>83199033
>"Ha! How they cringe--"
Indeed.

>>83199156
in the comics diamond back used adamantium knives that could cut through luke's skin.

>>83199184
I care anon. Just because something isn't popular doesn't mean nobody cares

>>83198656
>Marvel decided to turn Diamondback into a black male and introduce him in Luke Cage
He was a black male from day one, and was also originally introduced in a Luke Cage story.

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>>83197707
>Guy's comic costume is just a snakeskin jacket
>Somehow manage to fuck it up worse than any other costume adaptation

>>83199033
I like this.

>>83199166
Don't even. I don't know why you've chosen Luke's miscarried rogues gallery as the hill you want to die on but they are ALL trash.
Luke himself has never caught on as a solo act. Much like when they tried to sell Nova as the new teen hero the whole world would love. None of HIS rogues are worth a fuck either.

Ghetto fish-man, ghetto knife-man and several snake-themed ghetto pimp-men are all Luke has and they are all shitty characters and any change is welcome.

>>83199252
it's called a joke mate

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I'm wondering if Bernthal will show up in Black face to play Black Frank.

>>83199363
>http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/fajarherwandhan/lists/32-luke-cage-rogues-gallery/54543/

Literally looks like a parody of a Rogues Gallery.

>>83199363
No, you're just another person that likes to spout off ignorant thoughts. There are no bad characters inherently, just bad writers who don't see their potential. Power Man and his Warriors style eccentric street gangs make for an awesome setting. Mr Fish is genuinely cool as a concept

>>83199451
>There are no bad characters inherently,
Bullshit. It's a romantic though but there ARE such things as bad characters built on bad premises. In cases like that a good writer will alter the fuck out of that premise, give a new context, and overhaul the character.
But by god that writer better not put a helmet on that character!

>>83199033
Why do I have to touch his hand?

>>83199627
BECAUSE OR ELSE...

>>83199436
Doesn't look that much differentthan the Rogues from Central City. None of these characters display ridiculousness beyond what is expected from comic books. Chemistro is actually a great Power Man antagonist. His setting is intentionally outrageous and theatrical

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>>83199577
No, it's not bullshit, and it's your mentality that leads to generic soulless characters that are too afraid to be colorful and over the top like Power Man originally was.

Power Man never needed to be "brought up to date" or revamped. He was just fine hanging out in the old Gem Theater and fighting loudly themed street gangs

Know whos a perect antagonist for Power Man?

Power Man

THUNDERBOLTS PHASE 4 [/SPOILER]

>>83199577
My issue is that there are other Power Man villains that use future tech. Willis Stryker is a simple character that fit well into the overall tone of the Netflix MCU. Like others have pointed out, this looks like CW shit and the contrast is jarring.

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>>83199436
They don't seem that bad, just boring visually, no sillier than the usual cape villain. I have yet to check their premise. Stryker is surprisingly "memorable" given he died in the second(?) issue.

>>83199886
Yeah no need to update dat jibber jabber, you turkey.
Fuck off.

>>83197707
You fucking idiot, its Netflix, nobody gets their real "outfit" until the end of the season.

>>83199946
So you think Black-Bullseye is the better option?
Maybe he still throws knives but they wanted a way for him to not die with a single super powered punch from Luke.
We don't know and getting all righteous and pissy about a fucking on set photo is retarded. It's not even an official promo pic. How many of these fucking capeshit set pics do we have to see before it sinks in that they NEVER look like the finished product?

OH SHIT! It's Turbo Man!

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>>83199982
It's the whole snake skin theme that makes him work. You have to include his full crew with Shades and Comanche though. I think it's pretty solid thematically seeing Power Man fight his former best friends who betrayed him

>>83199886
Street Gangs that don't fucking exist anymore.
You could have that kind of shit in 1970s Harlem. At this point that concept is as anachronistic as a band of outlaw cowboys.
There's got to be some secret society/cartel involved with these guys because West Side Story just aint happen'n any mo ya dig?

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>>83197707

Why the helmet? Diamond Back was a knife master. He even got special knives to fight Luke cage.

He also went down like a bitch but that's beside the point.

>>83200216
>Comanche
Yeah, that'll happen. Ain't gonna win any Peabody Awards that way, brotha

>>83198652
Why does every Netflix show need to be grounded? It's kind of nice to have some variety among your series. They can't all be the grim and grit of DD and JJ.

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>>83199982
I feel like Chemistro and Mr Fish are pretty neat visually

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>>83197943

That's a Captain America character. Yeah it's confusing.

She was basically his Black Cat.

>>83200324
>grounded
As opposed to what? Full on Adam West?

>>83200241
I don't dig, because these stories aren't meant to reflect reality. I want Marvel New York is be a perpetual Warriors Style dystopian cityscape. Movies like the Warriors and A Clockwork Orange are set in bizarre vaguely defined "near future" settings, why can't Marvel do that?

>>83200342
He has a sound origin as well. If you want, you can make him really sympathetic by having men like Edison, and Carver being his idols.
>The first Chemistro, Curtis Carr, was born in Kansas City, Kansas. While working as a chemist and research scientist for Mainstream Motors, he created an "alchemy gun" capable of transmuting matter from one form to another by an unknown process (wood to glass, etc.). Horace Claymore, the company's president, was impressed until Curtis voiced his intent to keep the device. Claymore argued that since the gun was made on company time, it belonged to Mainstream. When Claymore fired him, Curtis adopted the persona of Chemistro to gain revenge and to extort his former employers.

>>83200450
Because that's not at all the world shown in 13 goddamn movies and three seasons of other Netflix shows!?
Also it sounds stupid as hell. You must love the Double Dragon movie.

>>83200135
>So you think Black-Bullseye is the better option?
Yeah, I do. Luke isn't even that strong. He has bullet proof skin and super strength on par with Cap. I'm pissy because this reminds me of Dragonball Evolution. If you don't think the core concept, look and tone of a series is worth adapting (It must be if you're adapting it), just let it be.

>>83200324
Well, they're planning a crossover so being consistent with power levels and camp helps the viewer believe that they all exist in the same city. I didn't even want grim for Luke but Marvel seems to be ashamed of his flashy past so I strive to see a grounded Ultimate Style version of the character work. Random Robo tech seems to be missing the point.

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>>83199436
>>83199363

For the most part they were screaming racial caricatures that they probably couldn't fly today.

The better keep mace and bushmaster though.

>>83200538
I always thought it would have been great if they made the origin of Power Man's unbreakable skin a result of an alchemical experiment on human subjects Chemistro was hired to do.

>>83199647

Because he's shoot you otherwise.

Later in the comics he was explained to have luck powers while his brother, Senior Muerte, was just a psychopath.

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>>83200654
They really weren't that stereotypical or racist. That's just want you want to see and what you've been trained to see. You're the same as the people who immediately assert that M'Baku the Man Ape is a racist character and than blindly perpetuate this ignorance to the point where the souls and personalities of these characters are stripped away and are given a generic mediocre makeover that nobody can really be mad at, but never really like at the same time.

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For a second I thought this guy was a part of the Serpent Society. Which by the way, we need to see these guys at some point

>>83199252
Dude that went over your head, in case you're a normie Cap had a girlfriend who also went by Diamondback, it was a joke.

>>83200639
>Luke isn't even that strong. He has bullet proof skin and super strength on par with Cap
Even in MCU terms that enough to fucking break a dude whose whole thing is being a knife thrower...
Plus WE DONT KNOW THE CONTEXT. He might very well start off as a normal guy who those knives and they upgrade him later.

>>83200915
I better seen them in Cap 4

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>>83200878
It's interesting really, how when you get visually bizarre with black villains it becomes "stereotypical" or "racist." I admit there are some things that leave a lot to be desired, but I haven't seen a character from his gallery that is downright offensive. It goes without saying that pimps and gangsters are generally speaking nasty people regardless of race, just flesh them out, and give them personalities.

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>>83200558
If you don't think superhero movies should strive to be like Big Trouble in Little China and Street Fighter, you've got it all backwards

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>>83200878
>They really weren't that stereotypical or racist.

Uh huh.

>>83200878
No.
Black guy is a pimp with razor sharp grills.
Black guy dresses like an Indian.
Black guy with big fish lips.
Nah s'all cool

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>>83201086
I don't see it as any different from the gangsters and pimps Daredevil fights. Nobody says that same shit about Turk

>>83201088
>Its all in the reflexes
Madame Gao looks lovely in that pic

>>83201086
It doesn't matter if they ARE racist, if you make a black man look weird or make him a villain, you are racist and need to check your privilege.

>>83199166

He wasn't a monster, just a very ugly black man.

>>83201177
What's inherently racist about this character? They use this same character archetype with fat Italian mob matriarchs all the time in crime stories

>>83200915
>Anaconda
Thicc

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>>83201177
Her design got better, but yeah that does scream "Mammy." It could arguably be a twist on that stereotype, instead of being a passive big black woman that raises Masa's Kids, she acts out for her own wants and needs for better or for worse. I do doubt that was the intention.

>>83201403
>black female wilson fisk who don't need no man

haha dumb

>>83201403
Totally not Kingpin either

>>83201373
I know right? Maybe they could cast Martin Lawrence and put him in a fat suit to round it off a bit.

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>>83201086
I've always liked the underlying snake theme with Power Man's more manipulative villains. It has a Conan the Barbarian esque crusher of demonic snake cults vibe.

>>83201373
The way she talks and the way she looks.
Change those two things and you've got a totally different character. But hey, at least she isn't wearing a helmet.

Isnt this Luke Cage a bit, I dont know, nerfed in this version? Like when the point blank shotgun blast gave him a concussion, I know Cage is susceptible to internal damage if the force is strong enough but I thought comic Cage could take more punishment than that

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Piranha Jones isn't offensive either, just really boring, he'd work more as hired muscle than anything else. The sharp teeth motif only makes sense if it's made of something that can penetrate Luke's skin, maybe his saliva is laden with an enzyme that can chew through titanium.

>>83201539
The key facets of a character is in HOW they do things. You change that and the character is pretty much ruined.

I can bet that shitty helmet has aim assist or some shit.

>>83197707
>they are going to keep making jessica jones and luke cage capeshit for netflix
>we might not even see a Daredevil season 3

fuck this gay world

>>83201645
Villains don't always need powers perfectly tailored to counter the powers of the hero they fight. You can assume Piranha Jones was working as a villain before he ever fought Power Man.

>>83201672
>we might not even see a Daredevil season 3
What?

>>83201672
What are you smoking? You think Marvel is going to drop a critically acclaimed Netflix series? If anything theyre debating on having him guest star in a future movie

>>83201709
>>83201768
they might drop daredevil and just include him in the inevitable DEFENDERS series that these shows are all leading up to
i looked up just yesterday when the new season was going to be released and thats when i read about this...

>>83201855
links or it didn't happen.

>>83201768
>critically acclaimed
idk about that, but its a fan favorite thats for sure

but out of the 3 jewflix capeshit series that theyve released so far its the least fashionable out of the 3

the main character is a white male
hardly any minorities

while the other two the MC is a black dude and a white chick

>>83201900
wow you are a lazy nigger
heres your link faggot www.google.com

>>83201974
Okay, so you're just retarded.

>>83201900
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/daredevil/253897/will-daredevil-season-3-happen

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>>83201855
Such a stupid fucking idea. They've already botched so much of Daredevil already, and now they're doing this fucked up version of the Defenders that is literally in no way fucking anything like the Defenders in any discernible way.

Who the fuck are these in name only adaptions for? They're clearly not for people who actually have read these stories, and people who don't read comic books aren't going to be drawn in by the name alone.

>>83201974
lol cool story bro tell me the one about the three bears next.

>>83202065
how am i retarded?
please go on and explain assmad faggot

>>83202092
you have to be 18 to post on this site kiddo

>>83202114
>hurr Daredevil won't get a third season because the MC is white and there are few minorities
>hurr even though its critically aclaimed it's gonna get canned because of da jews
That's you.

>>83199363
Fuck you Nova and New Warriors were awesome and people are stupid for them not being popular

>>83202114
Because you speak in memes like a shitposting faggot. 1/10 got me to reply

>>83202182
>critically aclaimed
what critics are talking about this show? what kind of awards is has this show been given?
i dont know if you actually know what youre saying, dumbass

>>83202242
so it has nothing to do with the facts i gave you but instead of how i spoke
thats some anal autistic behavior right there

>>83202090
Like many things in the MCU The Defenders is taking more after the Ultimate version where it was a bunch of street level heroes and Doctor Strange (who was nerfed as hell in Ultimate).

>>83202285
Its kind of hard to take you seriously when you refer to Netflix as Jewflix and fixate on the MC race when its fucking irrelevant. And speaking of critical response how about use google dumbass, because nearly any result will tell you. It was enough to get FOX pissed because they lost the DD rights

>>83202513
>how about use google
>post link or it didnt happen

ill give you that about taking me seriously
sometimes the memeing gets to me too but you didnt have to be an even more humongous faggot than i was LOL

dont be such a stick up the ass faggot next time? k? cool!

Netflix jumps to Arrow season 4 on their fourth series.

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Chemistro is no more sillier than Captain Cold really. He could really work as a parallel to Cage, the beta intellectual black male that no one notices, the yes black man, who finally has had enough and snaps when his creation is almost stolen from him. Cage is in contrast a "thug" who goes right, while Chemistro is the kind of upstanding black guy who gets "You're a credit to your people," as a compliment.

>>83197707
is not that bad

>>83199982
>Stryker is surprisingly "memorable" given he died in the second(?) issue.
That's part of why he's memorable. The futility and anticlimax of revenge. Luke kind of comments on it himself, that he had wanted revenge on Stryker his whole prison sentence, and then when he actually died, by accident, it just left him without one more purpose.

>>83204201
the fact that you had to say that "its not that bad" means it is that bad lol

>>83204167
I could see it

Man this board is gonna be even worse than when Jessica Jones came out as far as /tv/ crossposters.

They're obviously going for a modern urban crime drama to take the characters seriously and avoid camp. I hope anyone infuriated by lack of afros and blaxploitation and stereotypes just doesn't even bother.

>>83204610
But why would they adapt a blaxpotation character for an urban crime drama?
That was the original feel for Alias and a good few Daredevil stories so it makes sense for those, but not Cage.
Just because it's a shared universe doesn't mean they all need to have the same style and tone, that's fucking gay

That reminds me: the end fight scene in the Heroes for Hire episode of Avengers EMH had a shitload of Luke Cage villains.

Also, Fisk's lawyer in season two of Daredevil is also a Cage villain.

>>83204713
>But why would they adapt a blaxpotation character for an urban crime drama?

Because Cage evolved past exploitation decades ago.

>Just because it's a shared universe doesn't mean they all need to have the same style and tone

It kind of does. It's not just a shared universe, it's a shared city and these people bump into each other and a consistent tone needs to happen if you want them team ups and crossovers to make sense.

>>83204610
How is this costume at all taking the character seriously and avoiding camp? Making him a badass with a snakeskin coat would be way more serious and less campy

>>83204610
>urban crime drama
>avoid camp
>futuristic helmet
>Star Trek outfit
Okay man.

>>83201974
Damn, that's some mediocre bait there. You hooked 2 tho, i'll give ya that much.

>>83201373

A fat inarticulate woman with a bully attitude is a black stereotype. Usually it includes the woman having several children from different father's who she slaps around.

>>83201572

Originally Luke Cage was still injured from arms fire, even if it didnt break his skin.

I think the super invulnerability came in with Bendis making a broad Generalization of his powers.

>>83206678
tbqh what ISN'T a black stereotype?

>>83199166
That ass though

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>>83198656
>Black Driver on Arrow tier
They should've gone the Kato route.

>>83208093
A normal functioning member of society who has a job, doesn't bother anyone and is a good father to his children.

>>83197707
holy shit this is worse than what the CW has. What the fuck happened?

>>83199033
Senor Muerte is awesome though, don't lie.

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>>83208479

>>83200654
>Bushmaster

Luke's gonna fight a guy who's an expert at going down on French women?

>>83198926
Just make him an inhuman, it's not like they haven't been introduced.

>>83201855
>Defenders
>No Valkyrie
For what purpose?

>>83211531
>Defenders
>No Namor, Doctor Strange, Hulk, Nighthawk, Silver Surfer
Literally who cares?

Nice to know Netflix is going down the road as Marvel TV's quality programming now.

>>83211531
>Valkyrie
Only if you have Black Knight too.

>Nigga: The Capeshit
not interested

>>83211882

Who the fuck actually cares about Nighthawk?

luke cage show is mistake
he dont have any good villain, only women and cucks will watch this

>>83214332

Great post!

>>83197955
>>83197943
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this.
Her and Cap were so fucking cute together

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>>83214366

People who actually read comics and know that Nighthawk was the best character of the best Defenders run. So not you.

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>>83204167
Chemistro is pretty fucking cool. I would absolutely read a Luke Cage book about his various weird villains banding together Flash Rogues-style.

>>83214596
>the little bitch who betrayed Cap
>best character

I don't think so, Tim.

>>83198926
>>83199033
this is fucking cool

>>83197707
>comic version is some dude in snakeskin that throws special knives
>easy enough to adapt
>t.v version wears some sci-fi helmet and has a diamond on his back because that's his name, geddit?

>>83202078
Yea it'll be a while they've got multiple connected shows rolling but we'll get it. I mean we've not even touched Bullseye or Typhoid Mary for starters.

anyone got luke recommendations?

>>83214778
Scrolling I glanced at OP and saw this and then thought OP was an image of Mirror Master.

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>no Warriors-esque blaxploitation full groove aesthetics POWER MAN game
>co-op with Iron Fist

just kill me famm

>>83197707
Who cares, the Netflix shows aren't canon.

>>83215340

I don't know what the even means but they're high quality and that's literally the only thing that matters.

>>83197955
diversity and patriarchy combined

>>83201387
my anaconda does