Is the American South really like this?

>>83145727
No. Not at all. It's liberal brainwashing.

You should post the whole story though.

>>83145727
It's actually pretty bad yeah. There's a reason why only dumb folk live down there

>>83145727
Yes.

yeah

>>83145727
Maybe if you're in some shitty ass poor town in buttfuck nowhere. Most southerners are pretty friendly though.

>>83145727
Yeah, those fucking niggers act like they own the place and like telling young kids what to do

>>83145727
Nope. I've lived in south Carolina for 20 years and I've met a few closet racists, and one barber who was strongly confederate. Apart from that no one really gives a fuck because black people are everywhere. Im pretty sick of the racist southerner stereotype but I don't think it'll ever go away.

Yes. I'm reporting from Lousiville, KY. It's normal to see woman with black eyes walking down the streets and kids running around shirtless in alleys. Little white kids don't exist down here but instead we have young black kids who really are spiteful towards any white people. Rascism goes both ways and it's really palpable once you cross the border with Kentucky being the entrance.

It's still really beautiful in a lot of areas though.

>>83145875
Correction, there's no outright rascism. Just tension everywhere.

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>>83145727
Because most niggers don't dress and act like that. They dress and act like this.

Surprisingly only when I went to school in the south over a decade ago, and even then it was only from kids whose parents would be closet racists. Also, I wasn't THAT south. (Kernersveille, NC)

>>83145925
They dress and act like some cool ass motherfuckers?

>>83145727

Source?

>>83145925
>tfw no chain with your name on it

why live

>>83145727
Depends where you live. I lived in middle TN and things were pretty chill.

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>>83145727
as someone who lives in the south
yes

>>83145925
I want that shirt.

Maybe if you live in some shitstain town with a sub-1000 population, I've been moving around Texas my whole life and it's not like this. That might be because a good majority of my current towns population is Black and or Mexican, but most people aren't outright racist. It's a little more subtle.

>>83145952
if that's your definition of cool I feel very sorry for your niggerloving mother

>>83145727
This art is fucking disgusting. Who did they have to blow in order to get a job?

>>83146152
>/pol/ gets triggered

>>83145727
Yeah, that and the constant rape and poverty. Same thing in the Midwest, too, except they don't have any black people to treat like shit and their women are too fat to beat up, rape or commit any kind of physical trauma to, so they just masturbate to news reports. The coasts, though - literally nirvana. There's a reason they have to constantly remind everyone of the current year (aside from the associated "right side of history" rhetoric they slapped onto it) - because the rest of the nation is centuries behind. Super-stratified wealth is a small price to pay for making sure your shit doesn't stink, and it really shows.

>>83145925
>>83146152
>/pol/ is now afraid of black people wearing button ups and glasses
lmao

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>>83146224
>Florida
>Certain areas of California
>Nirvana

>>83145752
>damage control
I live in the south too buddy

>>83145727
As someone who grew up as a black kid in the South, I got called nigger maybe once or twice. Most racists are cowardly and will only talk amongst their friends or over the Internet.
But it really does hurt a bit being young and having someone dismiss you because of skin.

Its more subtle then that and gets more pronounced the farther out into the boonies you get

>>83146368
Says tough guy over the Internet

>>83146259
When people say "East Coast" they literally mean between Boston and DC.

>>83146368
Not them but they are. They're afraid to openly be racist so they say shit like "I'm not racist, I'm a race realist"

>>83145925
That shirt is sweet, I don't care for the bling tho

>>83146368
Go outside right now and call the first black person you see a nigger and an African booty scratching coon and I'll agree that you aren't cowardly, just stupid.

>>83146447
>"I'm not racist, I'm a race realist"

I don't think I've ever heard this before in my area, where do you live? That's hilarious.

>>83145727
Disclaimer: I'm not black, so I really wouldn't know for sure

But for the most part no. There are definitely specific areas that are though. Northwest Arkansas is basically Klantown

>>83146201
It's creator owned, so he had to blow himself.

New Southern Bastards come out today? They finally off hiatus?

>>83146492
It's not a thing people say in real life where they can see everyone looking at them like they're a moron.

It's reserved for basically for /pol/ safe spaces.

>>83146264
he's probably from fuckin Vermont, don't worry about it

What's the context of that?

>>83145925
Damn that shirt is baller.

>>83146547
Nah, this was the last issue before the hiatus. Finale of the 'Homecoming' aka Filler arc

Probably not everywhere in the south but I imagine there's some bad racism in some parts. Probably small pocket communities in more secluded, rural areas.

>>83146576
Wait, people actually live in Vermont?

>>83145925
I have to agree with the anons the chains and shit are retarded but it's not a bad shirt

>>83145727
Jason Aaron was born in Alabama, so I suppose he knows.

>>83146264
>>83145752
I'm from the South, and lived there most of my life. I know people exactly like the author of this story - white Southerners who spent their whole childhood indoors on the Internet assuming that everyone around them was secretly a superracist and, due to the fact that THEY NEVER ACTUALLY ENCOUNTER A BLACK PERSON IN DAY TO DAY LIFE, allowing their own nonexperiences to convine them they're correct.

>>83145847
>I've lived in south Carolina for 20 years
I've lived here for twice that long and you're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

People (for the most part) are not like that in Charleston and the further inland you get the more likely you are to see naked racism rear it's head.

Here's an example from 2010 that made national news (that's a Republican state Sen. named Jake Knotts talking about a fellow Republican (who was eventually elected Governor) Nikki Haley.):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq5xMT3z560

Obviously not everyone down here is an asshole (she DID get elected); but there were plenty of people screaming when the Confederate Flag came down off the monument in front of the State House last year.

>>83146720
Jason Aaron was born in '73 numbnuts, so there's no way he spent his childhood on a computer.

>>83146755
>but there were plenty of people screaming when the Confederate Flag came down off the monument in front of the State House last year.

I didn't hear the end of that for months down here in Texas.

>>83146264
The person you responded to. I live in Texas, have for most of my life. Worst I've seen when younger was a black kid throw a sandwich out of a school bus at a mexican selling oranges at the ride of the road. Told him to go feed his family. Bus driver saw this, stopped the bus, and had the kid go apologize or else she'd call the police.

>>83145727

It really depends on what are you live in. I've spent time there, and it varies a lot.

>>83145910
>there's no outright rascism. Just tension everywhere.
Horseshit:
http://wfpl.org/louisville-police-monitoring-planned-gun-rights-rally-outside-islamic-center/

>>83146783
>implying he didn't live with his parents in their basement until the age of 30.

Joking aside, I will still wager that he spent his youth indoors - if not with computers, then non interacting with the outside world. He fucking writes comics for a living, for God's sake.

my father was both very racist and very emotional. he would lose control over his emotions when he got mad at something a black person would do

but in public, he was better at getting along with black people than anyone else Ive ever met, he spoke their language somehow

there's a complex lesson there, but the simple takeaway is that overt, public, verbal disrespect only happens when people get pushed into an uncomfortable situation: its never casual

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Sweet.

>>83146815
>Worst I've seen when younger was a black kid throw a sandwich out of a school bus at a mexican selling oranges at the ride of the road.

I remember going on a field-trip to some museum in Houston and our bus-driver stopped at one of those fruit stands on the way there to buy some fucking watermelon. Was the funniest shit.

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>ITT people wanking about how not racist they are compared to everyone else while painting all of the south with ironically broad strokes
There is nothing of value here, turn back

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>>83146834
>Implying that's not the pathway to true knowledge

>>83145925
>Niggers dress like coons
>>83145952
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>>83146672
>Everyone compliments the guys shirt

Kek, you do make me chuckle /co/

>>83146834
>overt, public, verbal disrespect only happens when people get pushed into an uncomfortable situation: its never casual

And yet:
>>83146755

>>83146834
I may be recalling things wrongly, but I remember some of his personal afterwords to Southern Bastards speaking of a fairly typical rural upbringing.

And just because somebody writes comic books doesn't mean they were neckbeards.

>>83146921
I'd do it. It's some of the best watermelon.

>>83145727
Why is she gray?

>>83146919
This art is PAID FOR.

As a black man who lives in the south
not really but it depends where you are

>>83145727
The boy has a point.

>>83147011
Jason Aaron literally has a neckbeard.

>>83146914
My dad is similar. In public, super jovial and gets along superbly well with black people. In private, he truly believes that blacks are the cause of every ill in modern society that aren't being caused by muslims. I always wondered if he recognized the dissonance that every real world interaction he had with blacks were fairly positive while simultaneously despising their existence.

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>>83147041
She's half black, half-GRAY.

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>>83147041
Because she's a mix of black and white.

Floridafag here. No it is not.

Cringeworthiest bit in a comic I've ever seen was the part with the KKK in Stone Ocean.

Writers: please stop thinking the KKK has done anything relevant since the 19th century

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>>83147090
It's a normal beard though.

>>83147122
>Writers: please stop thinking the KKK has done anything relevant since the 19th century
Shh. Stop telling them the truth. The bigot boogieman is always around the corner. They need their persecution complex to get by in life.

>>83147122
Isn't Florida just the place where old people go to die and latinos smuggle drugs to?

>>83145727
>it's a "out of touch elitist thinks he knows what the American south is like" issue

Meanwhile go to Seattle or San Francisco where if you are too black they just segregate you on the other side of the city.

>>83147122
>Florida
>South

>>83147178
Delete this.

>>83147171
I've never seen Jason Aaron before but this completely explains Female Thor.

>>83146368
>says anonymous man on the internet

>>83146919
What is his shirt supposed to be saying?

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>>83147122
They make an excellent butt of jokes.

>>83147255
How so?

>>83147178
>where old people go to die and latinos smuggle drugs to?

You mean where Cubans used to wash up from the sea, old people go to die, and Brazilians do their shopping...also Disney.

>>83147178
North Florida is the GOAT

South Florida is a shit hole.

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>>83147285
The KKK shit in Preacher was the best. Anybody have the "Boy, I sure do hate niggers!" thing?

>>83145727
This art style reminds me of that high school art class project where you'd try and draw a face by looking at a source without ever looking down at your page until you felt you were done.

I know of someone who's a ridiculous racist, drug addict and a dick, but he's not racist to people's faces. He's a miserable shit though so Karma has him. I knew more people in the North that were far more racist in front of their subjects because they don't have it ingrained in them that they are shit for doing so.

I think the real myth is that racism is contained to the south.

I don't get the problem. Black kids tell white adults to fuck off all the time.

>>83147310
As a natural born Floridian, this is pretty much true.

>>83147321
>North Florida
>not also a shit hole

>>83147122
nobody counts Florida as part of the deep south

>>83147178
Square grouper is what we call it.

>>83147287
lol shut up nigger

>>83147380
>gated white communities
>shit hole

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>>83147291
Fits a description.

I don't live in the south, but most of my mom's cousins live in Kentucky. So from an outsider's perspective, it's not usually that overt but it can get tense. That said, when my Korean father went to meet the family, one of my relatives told him "My pappy killed your kind in the war." And another one has a confederate flag tattooed on his leg. But I think it'd be hard to tell in most cases, since it's a behind closed doors kind of thing, or kids that don't know any better calling each other slurs on the schoolyard. And that kids calling each other slurs kind of thing happens anywhere with a mixed population, I've been called chink/gook plenty and called friends wetbacks, beaners, spics, etc.

But then again, there's some towns that resist desegregating schools. Not enough to paint the whole South as racist though. And here in California, I know people that knew less than ten people that weren't Asian/White at their high schools (and would hate it if "inner-city/urban" kids were there), so people in different parts of the states aren't too much better.

>>83147528
>>gated white communities
Did you already forget that you're supposed to be convincing us that naked racism is all a lib'rul lie?

>>83147549
Fuck off with this /pol/ bullshit. Categorizing people with meaningless labels is not only stupid, but plain old silly.

>>83147528
>gated white communities
>North Florida
Dude, come on now.

>>83147554
>And here in California, I know people that knew less than ten people that weren't Asian/White at their high schools

One of my friends moved to Texas from Arkansas in high-school and told me that his old school had 3 black kids in the whole school. The one in our town had at least 5-6 per class roughly half if you were in the remedial classes so he was really surprised.

>>83147615
>He says as assumes anon is a /pol/ack despite that picture circulating the boards for a good while and likely originating on /v/

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>>83147603
It's racist that niggers are too lazy to work well-paying jobs so they can afford to live in gated communities? What's the solution? We put them in homes for free?

>>83147615
>Categorizing people with meaningless labels is not only stupid, but plain old silly.
It's also the definition of an Ad hominem Attack which is generally one of the first things someone reaches for when they can't address the actual argument.

>>83146680
>>83145727
As someone who was born and raised and once again lives in Alabama (not to mention has been around the country), I can tell you this:

The South is no more or no less racist than the rest of the country. It has its good parts and its bad parts. It all depends on where you are.

>>83147683
Do you know what a fallacy fallacy is?

>>83147664
Regardless of what board it is from, it's stupid as hell.

>>83145727
Not really.
Honestly, most of America's the same throughout.

Not in the major areas, I live outside of Atlanta and haven't seen much. I'm sure in the deep the-South-will-rise-again areas its bad.

>>83147615
Bruh it was a joke bruh.

He is a twat, though.

>>83147854
>He is a twat, though.
Why? Because he wrote FemThor?

I from a group of tri-racial isolates in the south and lived here my whole life. I've never had some random white person treat me poorly for no reason.
Contrary to popular belief most people in the south are decent people.

>>83147477
Which is stupid, since it's the southernmost part of the continental US and almost every stereotype of the deep south applies to parts of it, even North Florida. Hell, once you go south enough you've basically hit Deliverance country with people from the West Indies mixed in.

>>83147907
But I'm sure deep down they seethe with rage at treating you decently. The nerve of those people.

>>83146486
Ok did it.
>be favelado
>go out call another favelado nigger
>we both hue

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>>83145727
>Not kicking the kid in the dick

This is why you're always going to be on the bottom rung.

>>83148057
They already killed her dad, kicking a kid in the dick ain't gonna help matters.

>>83147722
>The South is no more or no less racist than the rest of the country.
Did I miss the part where they needed armed National Guardsmen to desegregate the schools in NYC, then?

Or when they ran the equivalent of the confederate flag up their state house flagpole after the Civil Rights Act passed?

There are racist assholes everywhere, sure. But MOST places they're like cockroaches and scatter the second you flip on the lights, not so the South:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f4vZmsuw2s

>>83147988
Southern Hospitality is just a smokescreen. They act all nice and hover around doors to keep them open for you and crap, and then they race home to put on their hoods and grab their dry woden crosses. I get a burning cross or a noose on my doorknob every weekend.

Rural northwest/midwest is pretty racist but everyone's white or mexican so there isn't 'tension', just poor people complaining about other poor people doing dumb poor person shit.

who /Austin/ here

>>83148225
Poor people are very racist but it's "okay" when blacks do it.

>>83147904
Because he wrote Femthor like shit.

Not most of it.
In certain rural/poor areas, yes.

>>83145727
No.

Maybe some very isolated places where kids don't have public education.

Or in the 60s or before then.

>>83148169
>Did I miss the part where they needed armed National Guardsmen to desegregate the schools in NYC, then?
You probably missed when it happened in Alabama, since you weren't even alive and it was 1963.

You might as well say they're racist because they're slave owners. Or because the South is a bog only inhabited by thunder lizards that refuse to allow black people to move in.

>>83148169
These things happened 50 to 60 years ago. Times change.

Meanwhile, in liberal bastions like Seattle or San Francisco, they keep blacks on the other side of town and don't go to the south side because of "the blacks."

>>83147944
>it's the southernmost part of the continental US
Geographically, yes. But culturally it's a weird mix of Snow Birds and Retirees (there are counties in South Florida that are majority Jewish ffs) as well as Cubans.

That's not to say that you don't get White Trash living in Trailer Parks (because god knows that you DO); but it's not like GA, LA, or SC where most of the people you meet in any of the smaller towns have family going back several generations.

Honestly never seen it in all my years living in Texas. Seen plenty of black stereo types come true, but never the whole open racism thing.

From the time I've spent in the south it's not typically that overt outside the deepest of the deep, but yeah, there's an entire swath of this country that grudgingly lives alongside but still deeply hates black people.

The "flag isn't about racism, it's about heritage" thing is pretty hilarious when the heritage is mostly composed of slave-owning, uppity-lynching, voter-disnefranching racism.

>>83148204
Either you actively urinated on a grand wizard, or you're full of shit.

>>83148289
>since you weren't even alive and it was 1963.
The Flag came down LAST FUCKING YEAR, you double nigger!

>>83148328
>Times change.
Do they now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq5xMT3z560

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f4vZmsuw2s

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>>83146919
I think we can do better.

>>83148379
Florida is weird. If New York is the melting pot of the USA, then Florida must be its garbage disposable, or its Galápagos Islands or something.

>>83148402

Also General Sherman committing war crimes against the south.

And the Dukes of Hazzard.

And the media making incest and rape jokes.

>>83148437
>The Flag came down LAST FUCKING YEAR, you double nigger!
The Civil Rights Act came into place in 1963.

Being proud of the Confederate Flag was in response to people claiming that it was a symbol of oppression. In exchange they said it was a symbol of pride.

On a side note you cannot be prideful of being a white person or a male now or you're a racist misogynist.

>>83148477

>Sandra Bee

Credibility has vanished since she's a manipulative, lying fuck who broke the law on TV.

>>83148402
>the heritage is mostly composed of slave-owning, uppity-lynching, voter-disnefranching racism.
Also the fact that was only run up the State House flagpole AFTER the Civil Rights Act and the federal government forcibly desegregating the schools.

>>83147554
KY is weird because it's right between the South and the Midwest. It kind of has the worst of both, to be honest. Plenty of Confederate flag waving, but without much of a sense of history/tradition/culture. Just contemporary Nashville country music, dipping, and getting mad about coal.

That said, I'm sure that incidents like the one depicted in OP do happen semi-frequently around here. But the times are changing, there were several interracial couples at my sister's prom a couple of years ago, when even 15-20 years ago that still would have been pretty shocking.

>>83145727
No.
Who the fuck wrote this garbage?

>>83147122
>Writers: please stop thinking the KKK has done anything relevant since the 19th century

Weren't they, y'know...lynching people and burning crosses as recently as 80 years ago?

>>83145727
Black anon in the South here.

Not really. There's a few racist people, and the dating game is a bit more difficult because you're pocketed into either fat chicks, or other black people. Though that's more of a universal thing; black people are pretty much the least desirable of all races in the dating market.

That's not to say there aren't white people that will go out with you, you're just handicapped in that department from birth. SJW's don't really go out with black people, either. Not unless they're the -- as the nomenclature goes in these parts -- "high yellow" sort. You know, very fair skinned black people. If you look too much like a continental African, you'll have the devil's own job of ever dating outside of your race.

>>83148588
>I'm sure that incidents like the one depicted in OP do happen semi-frequently around here.

Why? You just assumin', or...?

The American South isn't one big thing. It's like when people lump all the countries in the UK together culturally. There's the Appalachias, the deep South (antebellum south? not sure on the proper term for that), Florida, the Southwest (Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas). And it's all culturally different.

I'm from the Appalachian mountains and it's not like that around here. We don't see many black people, but we don't give a shit about them, either. If we stare, it's only because it's an unusual sight, and we'll probably catch ourselves and stop and act proper. We'll wave, say hello, ask you about your day and how your relatives are doing. We've got a lot of Mexicans as migrant farm workers, and we just cohabitate. That's just the experience in my area.

By contrast, my parents got divorced when I was little and my dad moved to Cincinnati. Racism was rampant in both directions, people were total douchebags to each other, no one cared about strangers.

In the Appalachian mountains skin color didn't matter (sexual orientation didn't even matter, it just wasn't something to be talked about), because there was this sense of kinship. Even if you just met a person. About the only thing no one would abide was rudeness. There was never a call for that.

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>>83148503
...It needs something...more

>>83147364
>I think the real myth is that racism is contained to the south.

Very true.

http://www.stirjournal.com/2016/04/01/i-know-why-poor-whites-chant-trump-trump-trump/

>Those two experiences helped me see more clearly than ever how fool-headed it is to stereotype people based on how they look and where they live. The “redneck hillbillies” in that Arkansas bar could have laughed with the three Klan members, or said nothing at all. Instead, they stood up for me—an outsider—and made it known that the Klan wasn’t welcome there. On the other hand, I assumed a group of liberal, college-educated volunteers would ooze warmth and solidarity. But in class that night, I didn’t feel especially welcome. And I felt ashamed for judging that woman’s life based entirely on her appearance.

>>83148520
>Florida must be its garbage disposable
https://www.reddit.com/r/floridaman

>>83148666
Satan, I can see through your lies.

>>83148477
Considering that these are outliers and not representative of the entirety of the south, yes, times do change.

In case you forgot, South Carolina pulled down their confederate flag.

In regards to your (cherry picked) videos:

1-Jake Knotts was voted out of office, the people of South Carolina did not want him. They did however, want the "raghead" he was actually referring to, Nikki Haley, as governor. The "racist and sexist" South Carolina voted in a woman who was raised as a Sikh.

2-Its well known how the daily show, of which Bee is an alumnus, edits video to strengthen their point. That's not even getting into the fact that one person is not at all representative of an entire state.

You can cherry pick all you want, your argument just doesn't stand.

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>>83148646
I think I have it.

>Grow up in South (Georgia)
>No problems dealing with blacks or mexicans
>Talk to them like anyone else
>Meet kids from "not racist" areas
>Scared shitless of blacks and talk down to them all the time

>>83148252

It's not "okay" when anyone does it. "Racism = prejudice + power" is bullshit.

Having said that, American black people don't have hundreds of years of institutionalized power behind their racism, so it's not quite as bad for a black person to be racist as it is for a white person.

>>83148731

I don't mean to be that guy.

But that Jive mother fucker needs a grill.

There are many privately racist people. Among friends and family no one gives a fuck but in public or in dealing with actual minorities people are more respectful. Children are often openly racist because they don't know any better.
That's not to say there aren't openly racist people but that's a vocal minority at best.

Not really. Not where I am.

I'm a greasy, truck-driving redneck who hangs out with the blackest people imaginable. It's like a weird cultural ethnic mash-up. Like, imagine being in a room, right? Like half of it's black guys and the other half is is bearded white guys.

Pot smoke hangs in the air like a vein. A blunt is passed around. Jokes are made.

There's some talk about pro-wrestling since two of the guys there work for a local indie promotion. Someone brings up DBZ briefly, another talks about the problems he's been having with his car.

Phrases like 'No problem, senpai' or 'He cut!' intermingle with the word 'wash' being pronounced with an 'R'.

Then we play Dungeons and Dragons. The DM has a rebel flag beltbuckle. The blackest dude starts asking about his level 8 half-orc shaman with a blunt still in his mouth.

That's my social life.

>>83148540
You can be prideful of your actual heritage.
White Pride is stupid because most white people actually KNOW where they're from. Why do you think Black Pride goes into Pan-African horseshit 90% of the time? Because they don't know their actual culture and basing it solely around slave descent is depressing. White Pride is usually just White Supremacists because anyone actually interested in Hereditary Pride can trace back to an actual Nation.

That said, like the Confederate flag if you want, but you can't be shocked when people acknowledge that the country was founded to maintain the right of slaveholding. I mean us Americans love our Stubborn rebellion, we idolize criminals constantly, so I can't really say it's right to limit it especially when a lot of the people who fly that shit share actual blood with the Confederates sthen again so do most the people offended by it
and it's a pretty nice Flag

First, I'm amazed at how well this comic actually handles race in the deep south.

Second, the woman in OP's image actually grew up in the south. Note that she's surprised by the reaction? That's no accident.

The town is in a fucked up part of the backcountry, where the only social life is at high school football games, the barbecue shack, and the church.

>>83148163
It's not the dirty south without some dick kicking anon. I'm going to be very disapointed if she doesn't kick at least one kid in the dick before it's over.

>>83148520
Florida is dirty, is glamorized, parties hard, maybe too hard, and gets into a riddiculous amount of trouble.

Florida is clearly America's wang.

>>83145727
I live in South Florida. 90% of the whites at work are openly racist. I work at a fortune 500 company too. The cleaning crew go on vacation every time the CEOs are in town and a crew of white cleaners show up for a few days. That's the worst it gets though. Nobody openly discriminates because they know lawyers will tear them a new one. I'm sure the Manager works some magic to get the cleaners to go on vacation that line up and overlap CEOs visits

comic?
i've read it before but forgot the name of it

>>83147615
Found the nu-male.

>>83148800

If the US flag can be flown with pride after the bullshit it's done then so can the rebel flag. That flag flew over slave ships before the stars and bars.

Abe Lincoln was a war criminal, by the way.

>>83148709
There was a recent hub bub because people wanted people wanted to change the name of an elementary school near Austin because it was named after Robert E. Lee. I remember it being funny because a lot of people voted to change the name to Hitler elementary but the school district will probably change it to Harper Lee in order to keep the name.
The entire situation reminded me of that one South Park episode.

>>83145727
yeah, unless you're in a fairly dense majority-black city like Durham. white southernors can actually be surprisingly polite and civilised as long as they know they're comfortably outnumbered. when you're out in the sticks and there's two or three of them and only one of you though, watch the FUCK out.

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>>83148611
>tfw

>>83147664

That makes it even more retarded seeing the physical description would also apply to almost everyone on /v/.

Also /v/ is pure cancer.

>>83148797
I would read a comic book about your life.

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>>83146720
>white Southerners who spent their whole childhood indoors on the Internet

This is brilliant delusion for a number of reasons. "Redneck bumpkins have prejudices due to living in one place and having never met a colored person, and they learned it on the internet, the largest depository of human knowledge from various cultures in human history."

If what you said reflected reality in any way (it doesn't,) then it sounds like they were made into racists because they learned a ton about other races and came to the conclusion, based on evidence, that they fucking suck.

>>83148529

>Also General Sherman committing war crimes against the south.

Yes, that was bad.

>And the Dukes of Hazzard.
>And the media making incest and rape jokes.

Man, must be rough having a TV show inspired by a film based on the experiences of a southern ex-moonshiner depict stereotypes about your culture. And suffer a bunch of cruel assumptive jokes when most of you are decent people.

Almost as rough as all the shit black folks went through, like being property people literally went to war to keep.

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>>83148731
HOL UP

>>83148739
Say that trying to grow a latino/white/asian kid in the middle of a black neighborhood. In that instance, you can be pretty sure of who's holding the "power" there.

>>83148402

>The "flag isn't about racism, it's about heritage" thing is pretty hilarious when the heritage is mostly composed of slave-owning, uppity-lynching, voter-disnefranching racism.

The heritage is the southern rebel shtick. Which was pretty much based in racism and "fuck the north". Everybody wants to be the rebel.

I have about as much respect for proto-/pol/ as I did when I watched The Dukes of Hazard for the first time, but the dustup last year made me lose a lot of respect for people who treated it like some sort of revelation. All that shit was known. I'm fucking Jamaican and even I knew the baggage around it. Anybody who waited until 2015 to say "hey, maybe we should do something about this flag" is either a kid, or they were ignorant enough to get blindsided by it and stupid enough to think taking some damn flags down actually did something other than trigger rockabilly fanboys.

Reminder the majority of BLM cases are going on iutside of the South.

>>83148540
>being prideful of the flag of traitors

This is why I hate Southern whites. They lose a civil war they started and then once they weasel their way back into the Union they do everything in their power to revision history and pass laws to reduce blacks to basically non-citizens.

>Jim Crow laws
>segregation until the mid 60's, only stopped by federal law
>terror groups like the KKK lynching and burning churches without law enforcement doing shit
>MUH WAR OF NORTHERN AGGRESSION

Fuck the South!

>>83148946

White liberals.

>>83148887
Southern Bastards by Aaron and I forget the artist..

Normaly, when people talk about diversity in comic book makers, they mean race. There are very few southerner comic book makers, so you can actually feel the difference in how well the setting is made.


>>83148865
>I'm sure the Manager works some magic to get the cleaners to go on vacation that line up and overlap CEOs visits

Paid fucking vacation. It's easy enough.

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>>83148739
>American black people don't have hundreds of years of institutionalized power behind their racism, so it's not quite as bad for a black person to be racist as it is for a white person.

I agree, my melanin-deprived friend. That's why Obama is going to implement a reparations system, where all non-blacks must pay a yearly sum of $20,000 in order to make amends for something they took absolutely no part in. It's okay to implement such a racist policy because no one has had institutionalized racism to the degree black people have.

>>83148934
Are you retarded?
He is saying guys like in pic never stepped out and thus assume everyone else is a racist evil scumbag because their views were warped.
He is not saying they become racists, seriously pay more attention, apply yourself.

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>>83145952
>They dress and act like some cool ass motherfuckers?

You mean like asshole gipsies.

Why are Christian africans such bro tier in comparison to all other blacks?

>>83148709
>complains about "cherry picking"
Sheila Butt is currently the Republican Majority Floor Leader of the Tennessee House of Representatives:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Butt

What comic is OP's image from?

>>83148800
My family only immigrated 4 generations back, so I know where we originated from, but people who've been in the country for hundreds of years and who's ancestry is just American Mutt - how could they know where they're from?

>>83148937

Sir, that's classic 'what about-ism'. You're saying that other people should stop being upset about things because other people have it worse, which is an unrealistic and unfair suggestion.

The simple acknowledgement of 'Yeah, okay, I can understand that' would be fine and dandy without going straight into attempting to shame the other person.

Also, the north were the aggressors and Abe Lincoln was a racist who let some people keep slave privileges after the war.

And slavery was only defended because the southern economy was completely dependent on it, unlike the industrialized north. It was a lose-lose situation, but good job on being judgmental on people who pride themselves on their 17-year-old ancestor going to war because he was told the north was invading and going after his family. Y'know, the 17-year-old who never owned slaves since you had to be rich to do so.

>>83148890
The US flag can also stand for the other 200 years worth of positive history. All the Confederate flag stands for is Southern plantation owners sending their poor to die to protect their financial interests.

>>83148896
Exactly. People wanted to change the name.

The south is changing, as much as people want to avoid the narrative.

>>83149039
Because Jesus was black, duh.

IME, no. Southerners may hate you, but it's considered dishonorable to act anything but polite. One of my friends who is a black grill said that people were far, far ruder to her in NYC than anyone is to her here.

>>83149079
>The US flag can also stand for the other 200 years worth of positive history. All the Confederate flag stands for is Southern plantation owners sending their poor to die to protect their financial interests.

had to greentext the whole reply because its so dumb

>>83146720
But that idea makes no sense since there are tons of black people in the south.
Not to mention internet access implies some wealth and source of education, which clashes with the idea of sheer ignorance.
Your whole post is bullshit.

>>83149009
ty i was hooked ater /k/ was posting this i got to 7 or 8 but i never did find out what happened after

>>83148792
>Children are often openly racist because they don't know any better.
In other words: they're letting you know what's really going on behind closed doors. It's like the classic bit where the little kid answers the phone and tells the dude's boss "daddy says that he's not here right now!"

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>>83148942
Done and done.

>>83149079
>Southern plantation owners sending their poor to die to protect their financial interests.

Right, so we should spit on the graves of those poor and pretend they were all evil without ever honoring them in any way.

>200 years worth of positive history

So that 'positive history' erases everything bad the USA has done?

Black people are very racist too and extremely arrogant but strangely nobody never talk about that.

>>83149105
The south had one of the strongest economies in the world before the war. Technology would have caught up and rendered slavery obsolete anyway, and it would have done it without decimating half the country's economy so badly that Southern states still tend to be poorer than the Northern ones.

>>83149070
Fort Sumter was federal property that the Confederates attempted to take by force. You brought the war on yourselves you fucking hicks. And even if it wasn't, the Union had the right to not allow slave owners to balkanize the USA and leave it vulnerable to foreign influences.

>>83149067
Oh, so that makes her the entirety of Tennessee?

Also

>state senate

She might as well be in charge of a boy scout troop, state level politics are literally just soapboxes for people to yell about shit before running for national legislature.

>>83148942
perfect
now we just need a juggalo variant

>>83145727
depends where you are some boonies are like that but north georgia or any area with the slightest bit of money is very liberal.

source: lived in cumming, roswell, millidgeville, and macon

>>83149163

South states being poor has nothing to do with the civil war and everything to do with rural lifestyles and a greater population of blacks and hispanics.

>>83149158
Jewish people are even worse at that, but /co/ dismisses it all as /pol/.

Lots of bad people in any group.

My boss is this older black guy that, to the best of my knowledge, has only hired black people since he's been put in charge. They tend to be shitty workers, too, unfortunately.

>>83149167
>Fort Sumter was federal property that the Confederates attempted to take by force

Fort Sumter belonged to the Confederacy and they had the right to secede. The north intentionally provoked aggression by stocking up on munitions near the fort.

The federal government has no legal right to prevent a secession by force.

>>83149140
>hurr
No. Just no.
My niece is mixed and she was really weirded out by this very dark black woman, like ebony tier.
She asked "what is 'that' (as in refering to her as a non human in our language) ? And generally is weirded out by natural blacks since mostly just sees american tier mixedblacks.

>>83148826
>Second, the woman in OP's image actually grew up in the south.
And she's the biracial daughter of the first arc's main character (he's white the mother was black).

ITT: /co/cksuckers and /pol/acks who haven't actually read the comic.

>>83148611
>SJW's don't really go out with black people, either. Not unless they're the -- as the nomenclature goes in these parts -- "high yellow" sort.

Or to piss off daddy.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qkDRZrZhE-Y

>>83145727
Depends on where. In a lot of rural areas you'll get shit like that but in places like Phoenix or Dallas, you won't see it, prolly.

>>83149207
So we are just making up laws now?

>>83145875
>Louisville, Ky.
>South

Pick one.

>>83148695

What lies? There are tons of decent people who aren't racist down south, and there are tons of people who are totally racist up north. Hell, MLK said the conditions in Chicago were just as bad if not worse than the open bigotry of the south. The whole article I linked was a compassionate examination of the stereotypes surrounding poor white people.

>>83148946

And that's bad.

It's still not comparable to hundreds of years of slavery, consequence-free rape and murder, economic and political disenfranchisement, etc. Consequences of that legacy still affect the everyday lives of black people (and other people of color) around the whole country.

Which is why when people talk about how the flag represents "state's rights" I hear "to own slaves" and when they talk about "heritage" I hear "that owned slaves and tried to protect the ownership of slaves in the bloodiest war this nation has ever seen."

The existence of racism and racist acts within the black community is bad. It doesn't rewrite history.

>>83148968

I've thought the flag was fucking weird bullshit since I learned about the Civil War as a kid, but it was refreshing to hear people decrying it on a national level.

>>83149019

Nobody's brought up reparations but you.

>>83148379
Florida has a lot of old money that set up shop though.

Google " the Styx Florida 1912.

A workers encampment located on an island off the mainland was eyed as prime real estate. Only problem was black workers set up shop and made the island inhabitable. Problem was solved when the whites threw them a party and the whole island magically caught fire while most the people were away

>>83149148
The poor should be pitied for being so fucking ignorant that they'd fight for an institution that belonged vastly to wealthy landowners.

None of the high ranking members of the Confederacy deserve any respect at all, except maybe an acknowledgement of their skill in warfare.

While every other Western nation with slavery allowed a peaceful abolition with slave owners being compensated, the South just had to allow +600,000 Americans to die. Even then they just went back to treating black citizens like shit as soon as federal troops left.

>>83149272

Anything not relegated to the federal government in the Constitution is up to the states. Nothing I'm saying is made up. The federal government has no right to use force to quell a succession. They were never given that Constitutional authority.

If a state wants to leave then they should leave.

>>83149069
>What comic is OP's image from?
Southern Bastards. By the same dude who made Scalped.

I bet a storytime of the entire series would have a lot less /pol/ bigots vs /co/mbler bigots.

>>83149009
>I forget the artist
Jason Latour, NC native. (They've joked about how the title actually refers to the creative team themselves.)

>>83149105
> Dumb
> Literally happening on the oil plantations halfway across the world.
> Today.

>>83149303
It was a joke senpai.
You rolled a 666 get

>>83149312

>The South allowed people to die

They weren't the invaders. The feds were.

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>>83149207
>the federal government has no legal right to prevent a secession by force

You realize how retarded this is right?

>>83148611

Brit here, mixed race girls are pretty hit and miss. But most of the actual african girls I've met have been hot as fuck.

Shame they won't fug a white boi

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>>83149067
>cherry-picking
Oh, are we going there?

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>>83149303
>modern problems that are happening right now will never be as bad as stuff that happened a long time ago and no longer affects currently living people

Can someone please take this stupid faggot's keyboard away?

>>83148978
The only place where whites haven't setup a system that ensures blacks always lose.

Sorta like how rape goes unreported in the middle east since the system is setup in favor of the rapist

>>83145727
No its worse.

>>83149468

Nice tinfoil hat.

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Goddamn mods. Do you job. This is not even tertiary anymore.

>>83149070

>'Yeah, okay, I can understand that'

I've done that elsewhere, but it's always brought up to shoot down the more concrete and widespread issues blacks face in America today. Everything can be traced back to southern slavery. People try very hard to minimize or distance the present from slavery, which is like claiming that universal expansion doesn't exist because the Big Bang happened a really long time ago.

It's not cool the way my ancestors were stereotyped as drunk, violent wife-beaters and pope-worshippers and most of my fellow Americans celebrate their Irish heritage by dressing in green and drinking till they pass out. It's not cool that we still feel comfortable stereotyping and mocking working-class and poverty-stricken whites in America. But neither of those are relevant when we talk about the legacy of slavery in the United States, and bringing them up is a derailing tactic.

South fired the first shots and were hypocritically crying "States' rights" while demanding the federal government enforce fugitive slave laws in free states.

1/3 of the total southern population owned slaves, up to half in certain slave states. Pretty sure that's more than the percentage of people who currently invest in a 401k.

I judge the people who try to claim the war was never about slavery when slavery was written into the constitution of the Confederacy.

>Georgian Democrat Alexander H. Stephens, the Confederacy's eventual vice president stated that the Confederate constitution was "decidedly better than" the American one, as it "put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution. African slavery as it exists amongst us; the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the 'rock upon which the old Union would split.' He was right."

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>>83148890
The difference being one wasn't literally founded on the right to maintain slavery while the other was founded on other principles....and just condoned Slavery. Fly it if you like but don't just whitewash history and feed me "Heritage, Not Hate" line that's shit straight from the horses ass. I won't say that Flag can't mean different things to different people, but that History is there. You can't hide behind it while simultaneously running from it.

>>83146720
Im black, southern and go out often and I can say the author isn't too far off. Lived in MS most of my life and its like going back in time. People here are sometimes openly racist, and don't apologize for it. Is everyone in the south a bible thumping racist? Of course not. But I can honestly say a good majority of us are.

>>83149468
This is some top tier self victimisation.

>>83149148
>Right, so we should spit on the graves of those poor and pretend they were all evil without ever honoring them in any way.

You can honor them without pretending their cause was a noble one. Fool's errand at best, monstrousness at worst.

>>83149525
>Stop having intelligent discussions!

Fuck off, there's 10 other pages of threads to read if you just want to look at large bosomed women or argue over who could beat up whom.

>>83149496
Trayvon Martin was shot by a white guy just because he was black and going home. Zimmerman got off because he provoked a fight and killed the only witness

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>>83145727
blacks tend to do better in areas run by white republicans so go figure

>>83149362

Ah, whoops. I never pay attention to my numbers these days. Now I feel like a silly cunt.

>>83149539

Is that all that matters? What it's founded on? Don't symbols change over time? Don't countries change over time?

Why is what it's founded upon more important than what it's done?

>I won't say that Flag can't mean different things to different people, but that History is there.

Which is exactly why it's immoral to fly the US flag. Nothing the CSA did rivals what the US has done. They reacted because their economy was dependent on slavery, and so after the war was over their economy crashed and thousands of people (former slaves included) starved. Good job.

The north didn't fight to prevent slavery. They fought to prevent secession. They couldn't have cared less about black people since Abe Lincoln was a white supremacist.

>>83149528
>Everything can be traced back to southern slavery.

This is the mindset that makes black culture a dark pit (no pun intended) very few people ever crawl out of. What are you going to do when whitey is bred out of existence by Paco in thirty years? Who will you blame then for being a loser right now?

>>83148865
>I live in South Florida. 90% of the whites at work are openly racist.
When I was working in Tampa a decade ago it was, oddly, more the Blacks not getting on with the Indians, by which I mean "the people from India" and not the Seminoles, as everyone else more or less got on; at least on a group level. You'll always have a few non representative asshats in any group.

>>83149579

Defending your family is always noble.

>>83149610

Zimmerman isn't white though.

>>83149610
>Zimmerman
>white

>>83149539

>The history is there

It's always there. Why is 'the history' more important than whatever meaning a person finds in a symbol?

If that's true when we need to start burning every flag on the planet because the history of every country is barbaric.

>>83148942
>>83149142
Well done, Anon.

>>83149610
Trayvon's friend who was on the phone with him said he told her he had made it back home but then went back to go flim-flam some Zim Zam after she suggested maybe he was trying to rape him.

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>>83149633
>No guys you don't understand, I only fly the Nazi flag as a symbol of personal strength and pride in my German heritage!

>>83149633
>goes from "Lincoln didn't care about blacks" (true) to "Lincoln was a white supremacist"

By the end of this thread this guy is going to be telling us Lincoln was dropping the zyklon b into the buckets.

>>83149593
Your idea of intelligent discussion looks a hell of a lot like /pol/ with shittier memes, anon..

>>83149539

The USA rebelled because they didn't want to pay a 3% tax on tea. So they want to a bloody, horrible war.

Nowadays, the UK is fine. Was that war really worth it? Wasn't it immoral. The US could just be part of the UK now and things would be fine and without a war.

Do you prefer the modern US to the modern UK?

>>83145727

No, its not how the American south is.

Though, if you've ever met american blacks down south, you'd quickly change your tune.

They are easily the most racist sons of bitches I've ever met, and constantly make things about their fucking identity.

>>83146919
I know artist will hide their signature somewhere down in the corner, but this guy went and wrote it between that kids eyes

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>>83149031
>cigany

Testvírem?

>its a /co/ tries to be /pol/ thread

lol everytime

>>83149303
>I've thought the flag was fucking weird bullshit since I learned about the Civil War as a kid, but it was refreshing to hear people decrying it on a national level.

Why? It's just another symbolic battle. Were you really so starved for unilateral support that you'd tolerate virtue signaling over a damn flag, or did you just not have to deal with that?

>>83149783

That's because you've never been to /pol/

That board is /b/ 2.0 and I still find more reasonable opinions than this den of tumblr retards

>>83149769
Martin/Zimmerman was just a case of two macho retards getting into a fight, except one macho retard had a gun and the other macho retard didn't.

Taking either side just reveals that you are a pleb.

>>83146516
>Northwest Arkansas is basically Klantown
I live in Fort Smith and I legitimately know far more liberals and higher-educated people than anyone else, even at church. There are really shitty parts of town (actually most of this place is fucking dire and I hate it here) but I've not noticed a whole lot of racial tension. It's actually a bizarre little cultural melting pot due to a high level of Hispanic residents alongside a HUGE number of Vietnamese and Korean people. Half my friends at UAFS are Asians.

I do see a lot of rednecks with Confederate flags plastered all over their trucks or motorcycles, but there's honestly not a lot of overt racism. I live in one of the nicer parts of town, but it's still so small it's hard to go anywhere and not cross into the shitty areas too. I've not seen a lot of Fayetteville though, so I couldn't speak to that, but frankly I've not experienced a lot of overt racism here. I'm Native American by the way, spoilered for tangential context.

>>83145727
Florida's going to be different from most of the south but the part I live in has plenty of rednecks and blacks and I have never, not once, seen this happen. Aaron's just a retard.

>>83148937
>must be rough having a TV show inspired by a film based on the experiences of a southern ex-moonshiner depict stereotypes about your culture. And suffer a bunch of cruel assumptive jokes when most of you are decent people.
He's a fucking moron: I grew up in South Carolina and my whole family watched that show and thought it was hilarious (granted it wasn't set in SC, but we didn't think the Good Ol' Boys were in any way offensive. If anything me brother and I wished we could go tearing around in a car that sweet).

>>83149773
"Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man."

"I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is physical difference between the two which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position."

These are both real quotes by Abe Lincoln, look 'em up. Yes, he was a white supremacist. He believed white people were superior to black people.

He fought to prevent a secession.

I'd rather have a statue of Robert E. Lee than Lincoln. At least Lee was a war hero.

>>83146224
This is bait.

>>83149789
They rebelled because they had no representative government, you ignorant twat.

It wasn't the 3% tax, it was that the British didn't let them have a say in implementing it.

This is literally 4th grade education shit, how do you not fucking know this?

>>83149869
>>83148937

...Wait. Are you guys thinking I don't like Dukes of Hazzard?

Because I do, I love that fucking show. I was saying that the south means a lot of things, good and bad. Dukes of Hazzard was a good thing. People drive around replicas of The General Lee in the south because they love that show.

>>83145875
Also reporting from Louisville- where are you talking about? Because I can't say that's been my normal day to day experience.

I went to middle school in Louisiana for a few months when I was a kid. I actually got attacked by dudes in middle school for *talking* to one of the black students. Nigger lover this and blah blah blah. Just cause you've never seen something doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

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>>83149884
>Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man.

>2016
>whites are steadily being outbred (not by blacks)
>blacks have the highest rate of violent crime of everyone else combined despite being 12% of the population
>highest rate of divorce and infidelity ever, as well as younger people not marrying or having kids because marriage is a death trap

It's almost as if Lincoln was an intelligent man.

>>83148620
No, I meant that as an actual statement of certainty, but I see why it doesn't read that way

>>83149914

So, again, was it worth it? Look at the modern UK. Is it bad?

Did you need to start a bloody, horrific war for this and send a bunch of poor, uneducated people into Hell?

Looking at the UK now it seems like the war was completely unnecessary.

>>83149639

I'm white, friendo. I did marry a Filipino-American, though, so I probably don't count.

History is history. Cause and effect.

>>83149672

But "defending your family" wasn't why the war went on. They were sold a bill of goods. Noble of them to fight, but they were fighting for the wrong side.

>>83149772

Pretty dickish of Hitler to use a sacred symbol for his death machine, so now Buddhist, Hindu, or Jainist who uses it looks like an asshole.

>>83149822

>virtue signaling

Do you mean "people who vocally pretend to care about something in order to feel good about themselves"? Because that's not what people trying to get the flag down are doing.

>>83149921

Ah, sorry. I thought you were bringing up the stereotypes in the Dukes of Hazzard in order to handwave the legacy of slavery.

Great theme song. And the General Lee is a badass car.

>>83149020
he's from the south don't expect him to be able to read

>>83148996
>>being prideful of the flag of traitors
This is especially relevant because they all vote Republican and scream about being "Patriots" while waving the flag of a failed rebellion.

>>83149914
Funny how they still didn't get it after the revolution. Only land-owning white men could vote, if you didn't belong to that specific group, you had no say regarding the decisions of your government.

>>83149158
I see people like you bring that in almost every racial conversation, even when it's not relevant, so I wouldn't say that.

>>83149633
What it's founded on IS a big aspect of that symbolism. Especially one with such a short history. Afterwards major usages of the confederate flag were to represent Anti-Black Sentiments and Southern American Soldiers flying it over sea. Now it's White Supremacy and Hick Pride.
>>83149711
It's not, but they can't be surprised when confronted with it and using that same history as a defense seems asinine.

>>83149884
>I'd rather have a statue of Robert E. Lee

This reminds me that they're trying to tear down the famous statue of him in Lee Circle down in New Orleans. Shame too. It's one of the nicest monuments in the city next to Jackson Square.

>>83149979

I didn't asked if you married a Taiwanese ladyboy, you retarded faggot, I asked what you're going to blame the horrible state of blacks on when white people aren't a majority anymore. They already don't hold a majority of the financial, governmental or media power unless you think Jews and whites are the same thing.

>>83149979
>But "defending your family" wasn't why the war went on.

That doesn't mean that isn't why most soldiers went to war.

If it was noble of the majority of the soldiers in the CSA to fight then why is it not noble to honor that flag?

A flag isn't representative of a government. It's representative of a people. In this case, it can represent a people brought to war through coercian against an invading army that wanted to quell rebellion.

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>>83149183
>Oh, so that makes her the entirety of Tennessee?
Hi, Dick! How's it going, buddy?

>>83150061

>What it's founded on is a big aspect of that symbolism

Not necessarily. That's subjective.

>Now it's White Supremacy and Hick Pride.

Hicks should be allowed, and encouraged, to be proud of themselves.

>It's not

Then stop bringing up history and let people be happy with their flag instead of calling them scum for flying something you don't like.

>>83149884
Those were common attitudes at the time from whites towards blacks.

Doesn't change the fact that the Northern invasion of the south was justified.

>>83145910
>thinking Kentucky isn't the entrance to the cesspool of the south

>>83149977
Well, we aren't under British rule and haven't been for almost 250 years so...yes, it was worth it.

>>83150149
>Those were common attitudes at the time from whites towards blacks.

So? There were still non-racist people back then. That's no excuse.

>Doesn't change the fact that the Northern invasion of the south was justified.

It wasn't. It was a war crime.

>>83150194

What's wrong with British rule?

Look at modern Britain. Why do you hate it?

>>83150126
You are literally using one person, a state senator (which is a step above "county commissioner"), to say all of Tennessee are racist.

How's it going, Dick?

>>83149326
So if California ($2.3 trillion GDP) or Texas ($1.6 trillion GDP) wanted to secede right now, you honestly think the federal government would roll over and do nothing, "constitutional authority" or no?

There are two types of American libertarians, the ones who believe that the Constitution should be amended in some cases to clarify certain things on the federal level and otherwise they should be left to the states -- which is reasonable -- and then the ones who think that the Constitution is some kind of metaphysically binding covenant and violating it is going to cause God to send a swarm of locusts or something. Pro tip: it's not.

>>83150202
>Waah, the Feds aren't allowed to fight back when we attack their forts!

>>83150248
>Look at modern Britain. Why do you hate it?

getting fucked in the ass by muhammad and being unable to stop him because I cant buy kitchenware, let alone guns

Industrialization would've made slavery obsolete in a few more years anyway.

So, the northern invasion against the south was completely pointless and not justifiable in any way. It caused hundreds of thousands of deaths that were completely unnecessary for a cause that would've happened naturally within a decade.

Without the Civil War there'd be no KKK and less racism in the US.

>>83150202
Winners decide what the war crimes are, son.

Winners like the north.

>>83145727
Not all of it but a good chunk of it is. I'm from Georiga myself. My best friend totes a confederate flag and yells nigger anytime he gets mad but his brother (well he is a best friend above me so he calls him brother) is a black himself. Funny shit.

>>83150081

> I asked what you're going to blame the horrible state of blacks on when white people aren't a majority anymore.

To say I'm "blaming white people" is to be reductive. I'm blaming a series of decisions going all the way back to the unique institution of chattel slavery in the United States, then to attempts to marginalize the freed slaves both economically and politically, then violent backlash to descendants of those freed slaves trying to live on an equal social level as whites, then deliberate exclusion of those descendants from the creation of the American middle-class (government programs purposely excluded black people; banks refused to lend to black people while lending to white people; etc, read about it, I'm not going to bother), all leading to our current situation.

No one wants to admit the trajectory because then they're the "bad guys controlling everything," when it no longer matters who "the bad guys" are, it no longer matters if you or I is racist, it only matters that we acknowledge the root cause of it all and stop pretending black people are just total retards who couldn't their shit together after racism magically ended in the 50s/60s.

And don't you dare insult my wife's feminine penis.

>it's another /pol/ thread on /co/ episode

At least the kid edits were great.

>>83149100
>people were far, far ruder to her in NYC than anyone is to her here.
I've found the same to be true in Boston.

However I've also noticed that people up here will get all up in your face and then get over shit; while people down there will pretend NOT to be upset to your face but then talk smack and hold a grudge for the rest of their lives.

I'd rather someone be a dick short term or let me know they're pissed rather than having to find out from their sister's cousin's ex brother-in-law a year later that the reason I didn't get the job was because someone is being vindictive about something that I didn't even know was a problem (and was just a stupid misunderstanding all along).

>>83150272
>you honestly think the federal government would roll over and do nothing, "constitutional authority" or no?

The government is corrupt so they'd try to quell it. But they have no legal or moral right to do so.

>>83150248
I have no problem with it. But the war was to end British rule of the colonies, and it did...so the war had a purpose.

Poets have decried war as useless for thousands of years. What makes you think you're different?

>>83150147
Again, so if some person flew the Nazi flag over their home you wouldn't have a reaction? If they told you it was just about German heritage in a completely non-racist way, you'd believe him?

If so, you're a fucking idiot. Symbols have power behind them, you can't just fucking tattoo the hammer and sickle on your forehead and get mad people think you're a dirty Stalinist commie.

>>83150082
>If it was noble of the majority of the soldiers in the CSA to fight then why is it not noble to honor that flag?

Yeah, that's the reason people fly that flag, to honor their dearly departed ancestors from the 1850's. That's why you see so many dudes proudly displaying Korean War stuff and, wait, they don't?

What about all the brave soldiers of the Mexican American war a few years before the civil war? No bumper stickers next to any truck nuts about the proud soldiers of the Korean War or WWI? No? Really? Just a bunch of shit about the war that freed the black people, huh?

I'm sure everyone's just reading too much into the perfectly natural efforts to lionize exactly one set of veterans out of all the conflicts that the US has had.

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>>83149142
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>>83150303

If you think the institution of black slavery, written into the confederate constitution and multiple confederate state constitutions, was simply going to phase out and blacks would be treated equally, you are fooling yourself. I don't know what else to tell you.

>>83150303
Maybe Southern retards should have accepted a form of compensation and abolished slavery like every other civilized nation rather than cling to a dying institution.

>>83145875
I'm the KY poster from elsewhere in the thread. I admit that I haven't spent a whole lot of time in Louisville, outside of the nicer/gentrified areas at least, but it seems to me that the racial tension there has a different quality to it, more like other urban areas than the kind of shit you see in small towns.

>>83150149
>Those were common attitudes at the time from whites towards blacks.

This is so true. Reminder that New York City tried to secede smack in the middle of the war so they wouldn't have to give more soldiers for the draft and could stop all the blacks fleeing the south from flooding into the city.

>Doesn't change the fact that the Northern invasion of the south was justified.
Only if you deny a state's right to secede, which is largely what the war was fought over. It's wasn't why secession happened in the first place but it was the main driver of the war. And the war settled that definitively. States don't have that right.

Ironically, less than three decades later our foreign policy had shifted to the total opposite of that what with sabotaging foreign colonies and encouraging states of other countries to secede. And that carries right up to the present day.

>>83148826
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/vfz3nj/stand-up-patton-oswalt--uncensored---america-s-d--k

>>83147615
hahahah beta detected

>>83148520
I've been to Florida and I'm half convinced that their water is driving people insane

>>83146038

I grew up in West Virginia and we tend to dislike anyone that's not from round these parts. And there actually are black people here, the ones that live in rural areas are from coal mining families that stuck around once the jobs moved into larger urban areas, and then there are others around those larger cities like Charleston and Huntington.

So really most WVians are more apt to hate liberal yanks who assume negative stereotypes rather than actual dark-skinned people.

>>83150343

The problem isn't racism magically ended, the problem is black people never changed even when provided with opportunity.

You said banks wouldn't lend to them, but they never built credit or tried their hand at big business or did much of anything of financial note, thus setting no precedent for a successful black man and thus convincing 99% of banks it's not worth it to lend anything to them. When literally every other race can eventually form a corporation or work their way into the market, maybe the problem isn't the system but rather black people.

>>83150344

I dunno, as much as I hate the /pol/ newfags who have no idea that "/co/ is love" used to be a thing for a reason and this has always been one of the faggier, friendlier boards on 4chan, this debate is refreshingly civilized.

>>83150350
>what is Texas v White

"B b but it's old so it doesn't count!"

>>83150271
>you are literally using the Majority Floor Leader of the Tennessee House of Representatives as a Representative of the voters of Tennessee
I can see where that might be problematic for you, what with it failing to follow your preferred narrative and all.

I didn't know this board was so cucked

>>83150493
In 1921, a bunch of moronic white people in Tulsa Oklahoma burned Black Wall Street to the ground.

>>83150497
>"/co/ is love" used to be a thing for a reason

yeah, an ironic thing

but you probably believe /co/ was one of the first boards too

>>83146919
Captain America Confronts Black Panther in Civil War

>>83150450
you do realize Abe himself liked slavery and only did the whole abolishing shit as the only way to really punish the south.

Hell his whole plan post war was to ship em all back to africa, IE Liberia

>>83149979
>
Do you mean "people who vocally pretend to care about something in order to feel good about themselves"? Because that's not what people trying to get the flag down are doing.

That's it. Maybe you didn't get a lot of that, but I sat through a lot of impromptu IRL recitals of blog posts by people who were more concerned with co-miserating about living in a country with racists than they were in talking about what taking the flags down actually means. Just a long string of "ugh, I can't evens" and the occasional celebration when one got pulled, treating it like a triumph of the spirit or some such shit.

>>83150519
She represents house district 64, those are the only people who can vote for her.

>>83150579
>black wall street
>a place that existed purely because it's the only place blacks were allowed to shop

Not even kind of relevant to what I'm talking about. What I'm referring to is what happened after all the legal segregation was abolished.

>DUDE WHITE SOUTHERNERS ARE DUMB LMAO
>What, no, low test scores have nothing to do with the high concentration of blacks in the south. What are you, a fucking racist?

So where can I get myself a bitchin shirt like that one guy's?

>>83150616
Yeah that's why he was part of the Republican party which had the platform of containing the expansion of slavery even before the Civil War...

Keep digging that hole hick.

>>83150288
Funny how there have been close to 0 arrests in any of the rape cases. It's almost as if they were all falsified propaganda

>>83145727
Not for, like, 30 years, no.

>>83150416
I bet Cash was born last
>alright, what are we gonna call this one ?
>just fuck it, call him cash money

>>83150726

You mean other than the "asian" child rape mobs?

>>83150519
>I don't know what congressional districts are: the post

Gerrymandering isn't exclusive to the south, either.

I'm sorry you don't know how politics work, I mean you only learn it in like 8th grade.

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>>83150493
>The problem isn't racism magically ended, the problem is black people never changed even when provided with opportunity

As if slavery was the only problem. White dudes would go into black towns for decades after that and burn everything to the fucking ground. Lynching happened consistently for well over a hundred years after the civil war. Thats when white people gathered in large numbers to hang and set black men on fucking fire.

The entirety of American history has been a story of fucking over the black community.

>>83148797
>'No problem, senpai'
I'll always wonder if this was what you actually typed or if it's a result of the filter.

>>83150764
>ignores the fact that they committed a ton of crime and still do

>>83150493
>but they never built credit or tried their hand at big business or did much of anything of financial note

Did the white low-income earners those banks lent to do that? Setting that aside, there was no "precedent" for a successful black man for bankers to rely on because a) blacks had been historically marginalized within and outside of the south, denied economic and social opportunities and political cloud afforded to white people and b) racism blinded them to the successful black people who flourished despite that. Remember, we're not talking about banks refusing to lend to black people nowadays, we're talking about blacks being systematically excluded from the very first days of the middle class.

>>83150595

I've been here since /l/ existed, so no, I don't believe that. But if you think we were ever a hard-edgy board or some shit you're retarded or new or both.

>>83150616

That does nothing to refute my point. You're simply hoping the fact that Honest Abe was an asshole will magically make the South historically more likely to end slavery.

>>83150647

I'm obviously a libfag but that sounds like hell on earth.

>>83150450

Yes. It would phase out for the exact same reason it phased in every other part of the world. Industrial progress.

>>83150405
>Again, so if some person flew the Nazi flag over their home you wouldn't have a reaction?

False equivalence since that flag has never been flown for cultural reasons rather than ideological ones.

Meanwhile the CSA flag has a history of cultural significance with no relevance to slavery, such as the Dukes of Hazzard.

You can only counter a reality with an imaginary situation that does not exist.

Try again.

>>83150764

fun fact: the last American lynching was in the long long ago time of the early 1980s!

>>83150485
>more apt to hate liberal yanks who assume negative stereotypes rather than actual dark-skinned people.

This is true for most of the south. Dimwits from stagnant and dilapidated old colonial urban centers assume they're more intelligent and advanced just by virtue of being born in that dump.

It's why old southern money pours so much cash into cultural projects and the arts, to fight against that perception. Doesn't work though, as you can see even in this thread with muh hicks and everything. Like northerners conveniently forget they have the exact same thing except called hillbillies and gutter trash.

>>83150752
Pretty much. All these refugee rapist that get tracked coming into countries and no arrests. Can't claim refugee status and be off the grid

>>83150479
No, not really. That's just people. There's more culture clash and isolationism in Florida than most, so crazier shit tends to happen. Crazy stuff happens in other states all the time, they just don't make a habit of reporting it to other states live.

>>83149899
>This is bait.
To be fair: the whole thread was bait.

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>>83150893

I'm sure they weren't arrested because it never happened.

>>83150405

Only Nazis and Neo-Nazis fly the Nazi flag.

The same can't be said for the rebel flag. It had a resurgence as a symbol of southern heritage in the 70s and was happily embraced. Everything was fine and no one thought much about it until idiots started bitching about it and then decried it nationally for petty, emotional reasons that they defend with 'history' when they really just don't like things that are different.

Yeah I mean no kid has ever called me a nigger but I grew up in a good family with good parents so people always told me I sound white or I don't act black it really fucked with my mindset I felt alienated on both sides and even though I tell myself it doesn't matter what the color of my skin is it is still eating away at me that I can never be good enough the south fucked me up mentally I made some great friends and there are some genuinely good people here but this back water state man

Felt good to vent this shit

>>83145875
>It's normal to see woman with black eyes walking down the streets
Well yeah, you're home to the Louisville Slugger.

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>>83150816
>14 year old black hoot and hollers a white woman
>gets tortured, killed and tossed in the river

Totally justified of whites right? Just like the other lynches that went about without any legal repercussion in the South.

At least we all can agree that hispanics are the worst of all.